i7-9700K in a G4/G5? What is needed for a "K" processor?

What does it take to use a "K" processor in the G4/G5s?

[@rvlyssup]

Thread and core count is the same on a k, non k, or t CPU. Only difference is TDP. (35w / 65w / 95w) Main issues running a k on a mini / micro PC is power limitations (laggy and ocassional freezes) and inadequate cooling. Soon as you put any type of load on it, CPU will thermal throttle and even shut down. Even the larger SFF PCs have thermal problems running k (Cinnebench) and non k. Not worth overheating and possibly damaging the CPU IMHO but do so at your own risk. This is my experience using 8th and 9th gen on Lenovo tiny / SFF and Dell Optiplex micro PCs with all 3 variants of the i7-8700, i7-9700, and i9-9900 CPUs. At the end of the day, these mini PCs are plenty fast and powerful with the T variant CPUs.

[@handmedowntech]

Based on the scant offerings on eBay it doesn't seem like the corporate world felt it was worth it either.

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

Hi, great vid. I enjoyed it. The difference between the regular i9700 and K version is the K has an unlocked clock multiplier for over clocking., but you need a mother board and bios that can configure it. I doubt the HP minis do. Otherwise there is no advantage. Keep the vids coming 😊

[@handmedowntech]

Thanks. I should see what options it has since the K processor was an option for the EliteDesk G4 and G5

[@michaelmurray7579]

The 9700 non "k" chip has a base clock of 3.00ghz while the "K" chip has a base clock of 3.60 ghz

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

👍 By the way I noticed I wrote i9700, I meant of course i7-9700. ✌️

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

You are right about the higher base clock rate, Sir. I stand corrected.

[@dailylife8901]

That heatsink looks so cool.

[@handmedowntech]

Pretty intense.

[@ernestgalvan9037]

When testing out CPU upgrades, remember to check for BIOS updates. It’s common for updates to include updated micro-code for newer processors.

[@handmedowntech]

Very good point.

[@SharkoonBln]

Whilst doing a quick bootup check without the heatsink installed just press your thumb on the CPU lid. Your blood circulation makes up for a pretty good heatpipe. At least for a short time.

[@handmedowntech]

That is one of the most unique suggestions I've seen. I may have to try that😀

[@Yandarval]

HP should have made a slightly modded chassis to slide two of those doorstop PSU into. To make things nice and tidy. As two of the 150s look to be about the size of a G4/5/6 chassis.

[@handmedowntech]

Check out the lockbox that holds the unit and a PSU www.hp.com/emea_africa-en/products/accessories/product-details/20540562

[@rockerforlife194]

All very interesting indeed. Thanks for the video.

[@handmedowntech]

Thanks

[@ytguy2010]

I had no idea there was a 95W HP mini. Now I know. Are you going to buy any HP Z2 mini's or any HP Ryzen mini's?

[@handmedowntech]

Those EliteDesk 705s are odd ones. I was just looking at the G3 variant and they look like G2s with the black case. I think I'll have to get more educated on AMD chips.

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

Guys I have several Z2 G3 and G4 units, they are sweet!. My G3s have an i7-6700, 16GB ram, 256GB nvme, wifi and Nvidia GPU. You can get them cheap you know where. I think YT deleted my previous post because I mentioned the place ? If you're interested make sure you get the Performance model which has the Nvidia GPU and extra ports. Ps. It has a unique case design, I've heard that it was reversed engineered from a crashed UFO. 😉 Take a look at them! Cheers.

[@h.i.t.m.a.n_47_911]

you mean ALI.....?

[@handmedowntech]

You can say eBay and all that, just no links. KZbin blocks those.

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

I bought them on eBay.

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

I bought them on eBa...

[@user-ce1cg9hz6u]

I have about six of them by now. I am going to use three G3 for an XCP-ng or Proxmox cluster and a G4 with an i7-8700, 32 GB ram and a Samsung 2 GB nvme as my workstation. I like the Elitedesk 800s, I have several thanks to this channel 😊 but these are sweet too. If you're thinking of getting one, remember to get the performance model. They're much better and are priced about the same. Cheers.

[@colinwatt9387]

I find myself fascinated by mini computers; if I had the money and storage space, I'd start a collection. I had a lenovo M73 which I made into a Batocera box so my mother can play Crash Bandicoot, and I have an Asus Vivomini as a media pc, and an ASrock A300 as my couch PC. Just noticed a silent mini atx case on ebay for 45 quid, now I'm trying to think of a good use (pretext) for having a silent PC. - Putting a 9700k in a G4/5 seems analogous to putting V12 in a mini metro.

[@handmedowntech]

They are addicting. I think because you get so much in such a small space. But beyond that they are made well and fairly simple to work on.

[@AFC19034life]

I've just replaced the 8500t in my HP Elitedesk 800 G4 with an i5-9500. It's making a high pitched ringing noise when I assume it's processing tasks as it's intermittent. What could be causing this? Could it be a PSU problem? I'm using the 65W PSU I was given with it.

[@handmedowntech]

If this is a 9500 and not a 9500t then HP would normally have it setup with the copper heat sink and the 90w psu.

[@AFC19034life]

@@handmedowntech ahh ok cheers. Just went and bought a 90W PSU off eBay. Are the heatsinks available do you know?

[@handmedowntech]

@@AFC19034life I have seen them. You can tell from the picture since the outer edge is copper colored.

[@joshluvhalo]

I wonder how well a tower cooler mod would work in lue of the 95w cooler.

[@handmedowntech]

I've seen some crazy mods where they cut out the top of the case and fashion a full scale heatsink with fan. Like a old school hotrod.

[@clubx1000]

What's the difference with the wattage what does it mean

[@handmedowntech]

The system won't boot if you don't have a high wattage power supply like the 150w one from HP. The CPU itself needs 95w.

[@TallaBn]

What is the max cpu without needing to add any additional heatsink. I have the same 800 g4 mini

[@handmedowntech]

The G4 and G5 are pretty much the same machine. The max non-k CPU for the G5 is the i9-9900 and i9-9900T but there is not mention of i9 support for the G4 so you'd need to take a chance on that one. There is also the i7-9700 and i7-9700T. I've personally only tried a i5-9500t on the G4 and it worked perfactly. The specs for the G4 only list 8th gen processors with the i7-8700t being the highest.

[@TallaBn]

@@handmedowntech only reason I mentioned it is because I am using a m.2 adapter to add a gpu so I can’t afford to lose that extra m.2 slot. So I was wondering how I can max out the cpu as well

[@handmedowntech]

Are you using an oculink adapter for the GPU or PCI?

[@TallaBn]

@@handmedowntechlemme rephrase because idk what I’m saying or doing. ADT-Link M.2 Key M NVMe External Graphics Card Stand Bracket That is what I’m am using to connect the GPU to the g4 mini. I am still curious if it is necessary to upgrade the cpu

[@TallaBn]

@@handmedowntech that would be a PCI adapter because my g4 doesn’t have the thunderbolt port

[@RandomBSOD]

it keeps beeping because the chipset Q370 only supports up to a maximum of an i7-8700K

[@handmedowntech]

Both the G4 and G5 use the Q370 chipset and this page www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/133282/intel-q370-chipset/compatible.html claims it should work all the way up to an i9-9900K. So there must be something else in the G4 that is stopping it from using the i7-9900K that I used in the video - possibly BIOS settings??

[@stevenbell9589]

So the new motherboard came I installed it in the HP elitedesk 800 g2 mini and I get this message pop up system is booting in manufacturing program mode So. I have some work to do to fix it but the board works %100

[@handmedowntech]

I haven't seen that myself but this post links to a utility that is supposed to help h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Replaced-system-board-getting-quot-System-is-booting-in/td-p/6669463

[@stevenbell9589]

@@handmedowntech I sort of know what I'm doing just going to take me a couple of days to sort it and thanks but all in all the pc works hdmi and everything and once it's finished the new board will have the old boards ID like a clone

[@handmedowntech]

@@stevenbell9589 oh good. Worried the new mb was having an issue.