Iain Dale exasperated by caller's views on 'homosexual ideology' | LBC

[@PercivalBlakeney]

Jim clearly uses the most effective form of contraception… his personality. 😔

[@bartrebe]

Brilliant 🤣

[@paulc3749]

Promiscuity for all 🌈 🌈🌈

[@suchisthismystery2814]

🤣😂

[@AquaFonic]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@joecunio8103]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@xJintyOx]

Straight woman here. Happily married. Can't have children. Does that mean I shouldn't pursue alternative avenues to parenthood because it's unnatural? Guess I'll cancel my adoption application. Those kids don't need loving families anyway 💁🏻‍♀️

[@Uppers101]

Not sure, you'll have to get a hold of Jim to figure that one out! Best of luck with your application ❤

[@Do27gg]

👏🏼

[@EdwinOudenes]

According to Ian, no you shouldn't. Its unnatural, therefore your marriage is immoral.

[@wyett123]

​@@EdwinOudenesIt's funny when ppl say something "isn't natural". Soo is it supernatural then? Her marriage is supernatural!

[@ianrichardson7027]

​@@EdwinOudenes Except that they aren't even consistent. He would probably say, "Oh I didn't mean that infertile people shouldn't get married", even though it's the logical result of his argument. If they fully endorsed the logical consequences we could at least respect the strength of their convictions, but they never do that.

[@lazersly]

"We're heterosexuals and we just get on with our lives..." BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE CALLING INTO SHOWS SAYING YOU'RE WRONG FOR EXISTING

[@paulchandler-harris4591]

He did not say you are wrong for existing, what he was saying ( Not very well) was keep your private life private, why the pride marches? hetro's don't feel the need to do it

[@DarkDreams685]

​@@paulchandler-harris4591 because every freaking day is straight pride.

[@paulchandler-harris4591]

@@DarkDreams685 Name one place where we have Hetro pride marches

[@stepearceu2]

@@paulchandler-harris4591 Every time you hold hands in the street and it's acceptable, with people not giving it a second thought. When was the last time you heard about a straight couple being beaten up, just for holding hands?

[@paulchandler-harris4591]

@@stepearceu2 That is because a male and a female sleeping together is what nature intended, and as two males or two females cannot reproduce it is not what nature intended

[@blatherskite3009]

The caller feels oppressed, not because he _is_ being oppressed but because he and people like him have lost their ability to oppress others. As the saying goes, "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.”

[@shaunclubberlang2887]

He ain't oppressed.. he's repressed

[@judstain88]

Well said.

[@orderd29]

🎯

[@elcapitan667]

Yep..People like Jim are just envious of others living their truth and being happy..so desperate to continue to ''dominate and prevail in society''!😂

[@FormulaProg]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@djstuntfox]

My stepson (8 years old) asked me to explain homosexuality to him. I simply told him it's when two men or two women love each other very much. He turned his head, thought about I told him, and he said "Ok." That was it. He went back to playing games or watching his cartoons. It shows that kids are not confused. They understand. It's actually simple, but adults are the ones that are losing their minds over it. I don't care what my son's sexuality is. I just want him to be happy and loved.

[@shanginadildo]

You don't have any preference over your child's sexuality? Does your husband?

[@idontusetwitter]

Your child shouldn't have a sexuality before puberty. I'm shocked you are a parent and don't know this.

[@anvildave2]

​@@idontusetwitter I'm shocked that you don't know that a boy usually knows he's a boy and a girl usually knows she is a girl well before puberty.

[@idontusetwitter]

@@anvildave2 ah yes I'm fully aware of that. It's the 'attractions' I'm on about.

[@andybray9791]

The Redefinition of marriage from 2013 was a bit extreme, esp when “progressives” try to ruin synod

[@julieblair7472]

it cracks me up when people say they "disagree" with homosexuality. it's like disagreeing with colors, or the ocean. have fun disagreeing with something that just exists.

[@FTFLCY]

Or it's something I "chose". I would actually choose it again if I had the opportunity, but that's beside the matter!

[@rayfinkle2805]

So everyone has to be over the moon with homosexuality do they ?

[@FTFLCY]

@@rayfinkle2805 What? Who needs to be "over the moon"? What a facile comment.

[@rayfinkle2805]

@@FTFLCY I wasn’t addressing you darling

[@pip393]

Then you would endorse it being taught graphically to underage children in our schools. 😢.

[@frogandspanner]

"Becoming homosexual". Presumably after going to a sexuality agent and perusing the glossy brochures before selecting homosexuality.

[@xotan]

That one got me too. Homosexuality is a choice! Wow! what next? Being born is a choice?

[@BuIIetBiII]

@@whitedragonracing uhhh no

[@jaxcoss5790]

​@@whitedragonracing I'm assuming this is a joke?

[@Imperial_Squid]

I actually went down the other day and paid a down payment on a lovely bisexuality, I was tempted by a few options but the gorgeous purple tones and general depravity was too attractive!

[@Leonnicko]

@@whitedragonracing if a child’s sexuality could be groomed then everyone of them would be straight.

[@lidbass]

I’m fifty-eight. All of my life I have heard people saying that we have lost all sense of morality etc etc. When I was young they blamed television, then video nasties, then computer games and now smart phones. I didn’t believe them then: certainly don’t believe them now. Poor Jim.

[@pip393]

A loss of morality is not attributed to accepting that homosexuals can engage in the sanctity of marriage, but it does help to dilute it. The spread of disease in that culture is also becoming a major concern.

[@lidbass]

@@pip393 How does two people declaring in front of witnesses that they will be faithful to each other dilute the sanctity of marriage exactly? And surely, people being monogamous is going to help stop the spread of disease. Leaving aside the fact that the most recent spread of disease affected very single culture on this planet. Self-contradiction AND memory loss. Well done!

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

@@pip393 Absolute nonsense

[@AndrewWilsonStooshie]

@@pip393 Your marriage is between you and your partner. End of. What other people do with it is none of your business and doesn't affect your marriage in the slightest.

[@verystripeyzebra]

In Shakespeare's time, it was theatre and plays that were going to be the destruction of society.

[@scibear9944]

As an American, I don't know whether to be heartened or disappointed that we dont have a monopoly on stupidity and intolerance🙄

[@rzrshrk7883]

Personally I’m always disappointed, but it’s a disappointment I’ve now experienced on 5 continents so I’m becoming inured to it.

[@elizabethkindred6806]

I live here now and could tell you some interesting stories. Trust me, they are all over the place.

[@AquaFonic]

YOU DO ITS CALLED REPUBLICANS AND EVAN GELS !!

[@robbiekop7]

You don't have a monopoly but your nutters are armed with M16s

[@66Sixxy]

​@@robbiekop7 Our nutters want to make the AR-15 our national gun. Oh, & btw, we still have child marriage on the books in several of our states. I'm so grossed out by my own country.

[@Atlastheyote222]

very nice to open a conversation with someone by telling them their mother would be ashamed of them. Thats class

[@stoverboo]

A Proud Boy actually asked my son whether his mother was ashamed of him at a counter-protest once. My son said, ask her yourself, she's right over there carrying a sign. Don't make assumptions about a mother's values.

[@josephine4s]

Bold to assume that everyone values what their mother thinks about them. I live my mom, but I can say she is no paragon of virtue, and I certainly don’t go live my life trying to measure my actions by her standards.

[@tjfSIM]

I think Iain handled that remarkably well. Don’t think I would have been so polite.

[@paulstimpson830]

It's not only rude, it's total projection. The caller is just assuming that, because Iain's mother is probably of his own age, she must hold the same views as a "moral" person like him.

[@vitocorleone7040]

The caller starting his call by bringing up Iain’s mother to be ashamed of him shows you exactly how hateful he is within seconds.

[@Tishanfas]

How does he presume to speak for someone that he doesn't know, over someone who knows her well

[@raindrops21_9]

Yes that was disgraceful.

[@slipperywinston4076]

@@Tishanfas He's probably loved a sheltered life and just assumes everyone's mother is a morally bankrupt die hard Cristian like his own.

[@normankennith7919]

i wonder how many women are proud of their sons being party of the 'sausage society'??

[@normankennith7919]

@@petecernan2568 i'm a heterosexual but i don't go around telling everybody how 'proud' i am being one!!! nor would i arrange a 'hetty' rally at hyde park to celebrate my 'sexuality'!!!

[@dennischristopher9952]

I love how these people think that us wanting equal rights and to be safe from hate crimes is us taking something away from or controlling them.

[@himoffthequakeroatbox4320]

When one is accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. -- LBJ. Or Aristotle.

[@DeliMeatTree]

Conservatives love to play the victim.

[@GH-pt3eg]

you already have equal rights. he is making the point that you shouldnt be drawing attention to yourselves as much as you do with these marches etc

[@DFD542]

​@@GH-pt3eg😂😂 by bringing up homosexuality in a conversation about morality in the UK. Who's bringing it up?

[@GH-pt3eg]

Another one can't understand basic nuance... the caller talked about certain behaviours, not homosexuality itself. Ty its so hard to have conversations with the progressives. You imagine arguments that are not even being made@@DFD542

[@GusMcGuire]

This is what happens when you approach a discussion with an open mouth and a closed mind.

[@blindbrad4719]

And a pre-written script

[@bert454]

Spot on. That's Christians all over.

[@apollomemories7399]

a rather unfortunate turn of phrase... "open mouth".

[@kirishima638]

No such thing as a ‘Christian Fundamentalist’. Your either believe in and follow the teachings of the bible (all of it), or you don’t. You cannot cherry pick religious dogma to suit your opinion. You either believe it wholeheartedly or admit that the man in the sky is made up fantasy.

[@Alan_Wigz]

​@@apollomemories7399 Brlliant 😂

[@matthewzuckerman6267]

If I were Iain Dale's mother, I would be proud of him for his tolerance in dealing with this hateful man.

[@nas84payne]

@@MrGhostBoxer Where did that come from?! What a snowflake 🤡

[@aminaa208]

@@MrGhostBoxer lol. Yes i suppose he could identify as Ian’s mother.

[@michaelparry9377]

If i was his farther i would hide in shame .

[@ben-9123]

@Michael Parry If I were you I would hide in shame.

[@matthewzuckerman6267]

@@michaelparry9377 Iain Dane's father? Why? His tolerance is shameful? Or are you referring to the caller?

[@SNAFUferret]

This guy could light up any room......by leaving it.

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

I'm a gynaecologist, and I 100% agree with his views on abortion. The rest of what he said though was complete and utter nonsense.

[@seanjones2456]

@@Baresi-Unico-Capitano Then you are 100% wrong.

[@gethinjones1944]

I love you comment about the light it’s a beautiful description and just so fitting yet so accurate 😅

[@daviniarobbins9298]

There are straight couples who can't have a child together too. According to this caller they should be denied help in having a child. "If you can't have children naturally you shouldn't have them" is what this caller was implying.

[@mirrrie]

Yeah in the US the far right "Christian" have that after birth control next on their list

[@markbriten6999]

​@@mirrrie the highest rate of teen pregnancy is in just say no states. Mind they probably don't explain what to say no to

[@BeardiusMaximus]

Worse than that, he stated outright that two men can't naturally have a baby so their marriage isn't equal to a straight couple. This would more than imply that a straight couple unable to conceive is equally "lesser"

[@jaxcoss5790]

​@@BeardiusMaximus Indeed.

[@iangascoigne8231]

That’s what the Catholic Church believes.

[@yetidodger6650]

There's nothing like the hatred of a Christian fundamentalist.

[@bert454]

The epitome of moral turpitude!

[@aimeemacdn]

With absolutely no understand of what Jesus Christ stood for.

[@HH_1988]

@@aimeemacdn Jesus was against homosexuality

[@rempanda]

@@HH_1988 Really? Did he share this with you personally? Apparently that part of his teaching wasn't important enough to make it in to the gospels.

[@gystes_]

​@peterryan791 "Turn away from sin" is really vague and varies depending on whom you ask. Laviticus says wearing garments of mixed fabrics is a sin. If Jesus didn't say something was a sin, than whether or not it is sinful is up to interpretation

[@mrdynamitehee]

When Iain Dale hears what average right wing voters really think about his community, does he ever think to himself: “Hmmm. I wonder what it is about me that wants to support and vote for the same people they support and vote for?”

[@andre-qe5yr]

What makes you think he is average? Queens didn't bother Winston Churchill. Nor most conservative people.

[@danpalmer80]

@@andre-qe5yr Erm Section 28?

[@andre-qe5yr]

@@danpalmer80 Indicative but not conclusive. The Tory party was and still is full of queens.

[@sueyourself5413]

@@andre-qe5yr I swear that there was a man, of some historical importance, who cracked enigma. If I recall correctly, tory policy sterilised him provoking his suicide... Random recollection.

[@dougclark9921]

@@andre-qe5yr didnt like Welsh miners, Indians, Red Indians or Black people much though.

[@RealHooksy]

Equality feels like oppression when you are the oppressor.

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

This caller thinks that people "become" a homosexual. When you start from that level of willful ignorance there's no way up.

[@thomasd5]

Well, the caller isn*t totally wrong. Of course, a child can become a homosexual. The fact the caller didn't realize that this only can happen prior to birth.

[@bafelix89]

​@thomasd5 something tells me if we found a way to "test" for homosexuality in the whom, his abortion stance would be updated

[@neezduts69420]

​​@@bafelix89honestly he's highly likely to be pro abortion for any situation that supports HIS kind perpetuating..

[@neilfreeman5824]

Christian values? Pro slavery, genocidal , homophobic …. Those values Jim?

[@terrysmith5168]

​@Chad Terly The same people criticizing the christian faith would be absolutely silent towards the other abrahamic religions , your double standards are cowardly

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

Not to dissimilar to the views of ISIS

[@blindbrad4719]

@@terrysmith5168 context Terry. While yes it is an assumption, Jim sounds like a "full blooded Britt" which means he is likely Christian, it is ridiculous to accuse someone of hypocrisy just because you didn't hear them call out all the other religions in the same breath. It's that brand of super woke that gives the sane and nuanced ones a bad name.

[@terrysmith5168]

@@blindbrad4719 He sounds like a full blooded Brit ? Do you not understand how ignorant you sound ? Are you insinuating that to be full British you have to speak like the caller ? You really are ignorant

[@MrBizteck]

How do you know he didnt criticise other religions? Thats a big asumption there but hey dont let facts interupt your feelings.

[@williamscott3634]

“This is not a monologue” guest proceeds to monologue 😂

[@baseballruski6047]

two men cant have a child. but that should not stop them from trying

[@davids7799]

Caller needs to presented with facts: Abortion happens whether legal or not. It's just that woman are killed and injured when it's not legal. Is that hard to understand? In what 'morality' is that not worse?

[@jantimmerby]

People who think they can think for others when they can hardly think for themselves are one of the most annoying things in this world.

[@trudygreer2491]

..or as we call it in the US, "MAGA"..!

[@jakeratcliff9926]

It's funny when people call in from another century

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

He is right on abortion though.

[@sharonbarlow2262]

Well their poster boy is Jacob Rhys Mogg

[@stevehanson2398]

This guy has obviously pre-written a monologue that he wants to rant about and he can't deviate from what he's rehearsed. He should be a cabinet minister

[@lordvadertheleftie9703]

He's going to be the next home secretary

[@blindbrad4719]

It's hard to multitask Reading, Talking and listening…, Safer to stick with just two of the three

[@mossga]

Wish I had his name so I could watch out for his obituary.

[@babybluesky9238]

hes just a ranting boomer with myocarditis and dementia

[@stevehanson2398]

@@babybluesky9238 I would have said he had no heart, rather than a large one🤣

[@bobthedemon1975]

Can someone just send me a copy of the homosexual agender please? I'd like to give it a read.

[@davidmurphy7332]

I've seen it, and it's fabulous! The colour-coordination in it is to die for as well

[@johnharding7318]

@@davidmurphy7332 not to mention the fashion sense.

[@elcapitan667]

'Agender'...😂 I'd like to see it too..bet its much more fun than being Jim!

[@MRSlade-hh7xr]

It involves a lot of Kylie Minogue.

[@natlegend]

@@davidmurphy7332 The glitter alone is masterful...

[@jordan3972]

It's quite telling how the caller says "It doesn't matter what the law says." If he agreed with the law, then it would matter to him. I find it so sad that these people spend so much time hating other people just because they are different from them.

[@esmeecampbell7396]

Because of what they do. Nothing to do with being different, that is the lie you get sold. We have legitimate concerns, but your lot sweep them under the rug with a quick "oh they just don't like anything different"

[@rainbowrex3772]

​@@esmeecampbell7396 "what they do" being different is what you're worried about, and you just admitted it. What two loving consenting adults "do" is none of your business or concern. Mind your business, Mrs. Kravitz.

[@riverbank7347]

@@esmeecampbell7396 Do explain your 'legitimate concerns'. Love to hear them

[@larrymcclurkin5526]

The audacity to bring up his deceased mother with your first comment.

[@yogi2596]

Apparently, adoption is also out for Jim as he said that if two people can't have a child "naturally", then it should not be a possibility. Those children are out of hope for any family.

[@funkknuckle]

IVF too, I guess...

[@redrob6026]

Or have ivf it seems.

[@blindbrad4719]

Don't forget the straight couples

[@yogi2596]

@@blindbrad4719 Definitely not forgetting the straight couples. This applies to everyone to the benefit of the adopted children.

[@mirrrie]

Yeah so women who are forced to have a baby can't even put the child up for adoption lol

[@happymaskedguy1943]

That these people still exist is actually astounding. So many dark corners of society never once sought out an education in reality.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

It's Liberalism that's collapsing the West.

[@user-vf3qd9jg1u]

Definitely a tory....

[@Jeremyramone]

Spot on.

[@richardhands904]

​@@user-vf3qd9jg1u The area he is from is full of wankers.

[@MrManBuzz]

​@@user-vf3qd9jg1u And ardent gammon Brexiteer.

[@johnhopkins6658]

Bigoted people should not be in charge of other people's lives.

[@martyn_g]

When a bloke I work with says comments like “trans wasn’t even invented yet when I was young” you know why LGBTQI rights need to be a thing.

[@corvoattano44]

right, it's been observed in many ancient cultures that transgender people existed and in some cultures were respected as part of the community. I guess those parts of history aren't taught though

[@Twy87]

A better advert for contraception I've yet to find than Jim in Solihull.

[@notwhatitwasbefore]

I am as a rule strictly oppopsed to post birth abortions but listening to this did shake my beliefs a little

[@adamsboringvids]

@@notwhatitwasbefore I’d support it up to the 120th trimester in Jim’s case.

[@annishilcock4587]

I knew there were mental health issues in this country but I didn't realise it was as bad as this.

[@stoneagepig3768]

He's a pathetic bigot. You clearly haven't the first idea just how bad genuine mental illness is. What you've done is compared very poorly people to being the same as bigots. Are you bright enough to understand YOUR bigotry and lack of understanding in this disgusting comparison?

[@annishilcock4587]

@@stoneagepig3768 Get off your ridiculous high horse, I am bright enough to know personally exactly how genuine mental illness is.

[@esmeecampbell7396]

Yep homosexuals and transvestites are rife, they can adopt and marry. It's appalling you're quite correct...

[@_KRYMZN_]

@@esmeecampbell7396 another comment oh yours indicated that you don’t have an issue with LGBTQ+ people “being different”, just “what they do”. By “what they do” did you mean existing? Adopting? Marrying? Cause it just sounds like you don’t like them for being different

[@esmeecampbell7396]

@@_KRYMZN_ yes adopting, marrying, attempting to change laws to their favour, promote themselves and their ideology, spreading it within schools, infesting things like female sports. Obviously different groups do different things within that.

[@greenplasticgun]

My wife (female) and I (male) can't conceive a child naturally between the two of us. Is the caller saying that our 4 year old IVF child shouldn't have been allowed? I take offense to that, to be honest.

[@shroomer8294]

And you’re fully justified in doing so.

[@SpenceJS87]

Are we really following America into their pursuit of regressive and reactionary politics? I've always been quite proud of our country generally considering these things non-issues.

[@welshgit]

Unfortunately, it seems so. Don't forget, many of these right wing think tanks are funded by the same Americans that fund Americas right wing propoganda. Also, Tories look at Trumps loyal following and think "well, if it works there"... The brexit campaign started the earnest slide into divisive politics, and it's been going downhill from there.

[@elcapitan667]

Yep..most if not all right wingers in the UK are Trump deranged bigots unfortunatly!

[@MrRailjunkie]

I think we already have. Just look at the likes of GB News dedicated to this kind of reactionary topics.

[@molsy1768]

Have you not been paying attention to uk politics since 2014?

[@Tim_Shu]

He sounds over 75, the old codger, I think he's just old school set in his "ways"

[@martin2289]

Fairly certain that the notion of society being morally "debased" is a sentiment that's been around almost since the dawn of history (hence, there's always a pristine, imaginary "Golden Age" that's been tragically forsaken, etc.).

[@bluevan12]

A golden age never existed just rose tinted spectacles.

[@django3422]

​@@bluevan12 Very true. A "golden age" is only ever referred to in hindsight.

[@hawkeye6399]

​@@bluevan12 the interesting thing about viewing world through rose-tinted spectacles is that they make everything look pink, a prospect I feel sure would give Jim the caller from Solihull a pearl-clutching fit of the vapours.

[@JohnDowson100]

And it's always 30 years ago.

[@hawkeye6399]

@@JohnDowson100 even nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

[@genXstream]

You suppose Caller applies the "if you can't conceive a child together..." rules to heterosexual couples who have to go the IVF route?

[@---Tre---]

Every single "pro-lifer" approves of the death penalty. Explain that to me!

[@markwelch3564]

Makes as much sense as the pro lifers who are happy to see children go hungry...

[@Azzzkikr]

easy, abortion is for the innocent and the death penalty is not

[@martinlee465]

Who gave you the right to speak for me?

[@downstream0114]

@@Azzzkikr Except for the significant percentage of wrongly convicted.

[@korayven9255]

@@Azzzkikr Strange then how the net misery in the world drastically increases when we follow the pro-life agenda with how gleefully and often it makes the innocent suffer *_and_* die unjustly.

[@hg82met]

Why is he exasperated? Jim is the exact sort of Daily Mail reader that Dale likes to whip into a frenzy and exploit in many other issues.

[@dougclark9921]

The elite right have always viewed their voters as useful idiots, most rarely get to meet them.

[@normankennith7919]

iain dale enjoys a 'daily' male!!!

[@bobcosmic]

@@normankennith7919 Ouch !

[@ThomasKing19933]

Society can't move forward when people have views like this.

[@Khalkara]

It can. We just need to drag people with views like this along.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

It's Liberalism that's collapsing the West.

[@capt.bart.roberts4975]

If this man has ever been laid, I'd be very surprised!

[@ReformedR]

Views like this are the only thing capable of bringing society forward

[@Raussl]

the beauty is...they aren't going to be around for much longer...by the voice of the caller I can tell, problem is solved within 10 years.

[@robertlonergan9401]

Caller is nuts. Dale is a corrupt Tory apologist.

[@LuzdoSol00]

" Becoming homosexual" " The life that you chose" 😂

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

It is a choice.

[@LuzdoSol00]

@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive In your world his a choice, and I can not live in your head. You guys need to educate yourself. In scientific terms, genetically plays a very small and its a complex issue. Even if it is a life, choose non religion. You have the right to dictate a life of others. It's very chicky of you trying to apply its a life style its not, and you have to be exposed to several books to stop saying individuals has control over it.

[@mazhoque]

​@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive It's definitely not a choice.

[@OliverMiles98]

@someone on the internet [citation needed]

[@jamesscott3022]

@@mazhoque yeah it is a choice

[@pyroyergen5986]

choosing the homosexual lifestyle... this guys something else

[@emilymcplugger]

So the taxpayer shouldn’t have to pay for… Contraception Abortion And, no doubt, other people’s children. The absolute mental gymnastics of people like Jim are mind-boggling.

[@myx0myc0t4]

Don't we pay tax on condoms btw?

[@froomer17]

"Becoming Homosexual" - WOW

[@vilebrequin6923]

I've booked mine for 3 weeks on Thursday.

[@froomer17]

@@vilebrequin6923 I'm waiting to divorce my wife, then I'll get my appointment booked!

[@danmayberry1185]

"Nothing worse than an unbecoming homosexual" - Ann Widdecombe

[@maxthelab8457]

I thought about getting homosexuality, but at the last moment decided on tunnel vision instead because it was on special that day - well as Tescos says, every penny counts.

[@daniellamcgee4251]

​@@danmayberry1185 😂

[@TableTopWolf1984]

So strange still hearing views like this, even my late nan who was 86 when the passed didn't think like this

[@danstone6871]

What a genuinely odd chap. Imagine living in his head for an afternoon, round and round chasing his tail being upset by regular, normal people trying to live their lives. Scattergun weirdness.

[@duncanh3466]

So no abortion and no adoption according to Jim. Looks like in Jim's world there are going to be a lot of kids in orphanages

[@airfixx_8952]

...Which he no doubt would resent funding too.

[@sandygrowler7384]

I promise that when I am really old I will not call into radio talk shows and share my antiquated views with the rest of the population.

[@LancefieldDenton]

I TRY to respect ALL peoples opinions but this man is pushing it !!!.

[@happymaskedguy1943]

I don’t respect anyone’s opinions that I disagree with. I respect their right to HAVE their own opinions. But so often their opinions consist of this bigoted, idiotic tripe.

[@1inchPunchBowl]

@@happymaskedguy1943 So many these days also value their own opinions (belief) over observable & acknowledged facts & expect the rest of us to respect them.

[@Coelacanth1]

He's probably lonely. To need someone to wear the blame for his loneliness

[@finalfrontier001]

​@@Coelacanth1 maybe he reads a science book that most pro hkmosexuals don't want to read.

[@jonathansykes4986]

1/4th of people are just short bus riders.

[@leemartell7086]

This is what happens when people base their morals on an unverified book written a thousand years ago. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but we really don’t need to pay attention to ones like this.

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

"If you can't have a child "_naturally_" ... what is "natural"?

[@andrewrobinson2565]

Jim'll be gone soon, fortunately. Bless. He doesn't belong in the 21st century 🤣.

[@Elvisbackpack]

He'd clearly be more at home in the 17th century.

[@andrewrobinson2565]

@@Elvisbackpack I think you're right +1. I was being generous with 21st century. He'd outmogg JRM any day 🤣🤣🤣.

[@andyn3532]

Don't be like Jim

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Yes, just keep letting Liberalism and degeneracy destroy the West

[@franktorres2718]

They don't Dominate Society, They Exist with Society, Since the Very Beginning, and Will Continue till the very end!

[@pagawiccan]

Ideology? Gimme a break. It’s not a notion or a lifestyle. It’s who we are, period. It simply is.

[@briananderson8428]

American here. I adore many of the hosts on LBC. So very intelligent. Wish we had this level of interpersonal competence on American radio talk shows. These hosts are so, so patient. Well done!

[@AquaFonic]

WHAT A ABSOLUTE BELL END !!! Brits think ABUSING SOMEONE THEY DONT KNOW IS OK ITS SICKENING

[@barryrathbone]

That’s an insult to every bell end!

[@Mark-Haddow]

"Brits" What? This bigot (caller) is English. It is England where this right-wing ideology is popular!

[@markbriten6999]

​@@Mark-Haddow not by their majority, thank the flying spaghetti monster, let's face it it's as real as their sky fairies

[@Mark-Haddow]

@@markbriten6999 It definitely is a majority in England. Brexit proved that.

[@goattm2]

Its the English.

[@InsideOutInkDemon]

This is why you should never silence them, let them speak loud n proud so the world can see how bonkers they are

[@marcelwiszowaty1751]

Or in fact how *dangerous* they are!

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

How is talking out vs the abortion of over 214K babies bonkers?? There are thousands upon thousands of people who are desperate to have children, and yet we literally legalise the killing of unborn babies. How is that bonkers?

[@TheHertsHammer]

I still find it amazing that people like Jim think that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice.

[@vincentblack7467]

Sounds like a Muslim with these views.

[@Tishanfas]

I wonder when he chose to be heterosexual

[@nas-2003]

It is a choice, you're not 'born' with it....

[@Weejie2011]

My worst nightmare would be to get stuck on a bus journey with Jim in earshot.

[@ThomasDoubting5]

I can't believe that a grown man has gone through life and never recognising the difference between his opinion and what is moral . He sounds like someone in their late teens early 20s know everything about nothing .

[@brucedillinger9448]

Maybe something caused him to get "stuck" in that early age mindset. If true, That's sad.

[@RichardBeds]

The caller probably lives on his own, as he doesn’t know how to hold a conversation. He also said homosexuals shouldn’t have babies, because they can’t have them naturally. So he probably doesn’t approve of heterosexual couples who have IVF.

[@greamespens1460]

Yes why should people be denied medical help when money is being used for IVF

[@clivecosta-correa2102]

He must have scintillating conversations at shaving time....

[@terrysmith5168]

What does it matter if he lives on his own . Does that make his opinion any less valid . You almost sound as bigoted as the caller

[@fm-oldmanphil]

I live on my own and can have a conversation....that was a bit discriminatory... I'm sorry to point it out but you have to be careful what you say today

[@RichardBeds]

@@fm-oldmanphil I was being facetious, and no I’m not “woke”, just awake.

[@aarpoonwaify6694]

Think he voted Brexit?

[@avishevin3353]

"becoming homosexual" Jim hates reality.

[@Cardinal_Hordriss]

Funnily enough abortion has yet to be decriminalised in the UK.

[@jamesswindley9599]

Someone give their grandad his sleeping tablets 😂😂😂 he’s calling in from 1950 😅

[@joperhop]

Homosexuality is all through nature, 1500+ animal species show homosexual actions, and relationships, its NATURAL, more natural than religious BS. This caller is so out dated, so lost in the bigotry of the past he cant catch up with the rest of us, he should be left behind! let him stew in his own hatred until he dies.

[@dextercool]

The man needs a soapbox on Hyde corner and a sign with 'The End is Nigh'.

[@ACameronUK]

This is one of those videos where I see the caller’s quote in the thumbnail and know it’s going to be a difficult experience 🙃

[@jaminavestajugo3456]

Homosexuality is not a sickness. Society treats homosexuals badly so that they need support and protection. Disagreeing with that is like disagreeing with the wearing of protective gear to go into dangerous situations. In this case, the dangerous situation, sadly, is often everyday life.

[@andrewroberts6275]

It's one thing being an unwanted 16 week old fetus and another being an unwanted 6 year old child that will turn into an unwanted adult.

[@AdamJX602]

How Iain kept his cool here I’ve no idea

[@KellyIsShort]

I can confirm that children do not find anything regarding LGBTQ+ confusing. They get it and often are very respectable. Section 28’s removal was one of the best things to happen to education.

[@joanofarc8099]

@@KellyIsShort Education?....indoctrination you mean surely?!......

[@alexzzzzzzzzzz247]

Unfortunately, these opinions have never gone away. It's just that, for some time, those who held them felt obliged by civil society to keep their views private. However, I feel convinced that Jim has been emboldened to let these deeply held opinions resurface because of the normalisation of anti-trans rhetoric that is unfortunately so common.

[@meghnac78]

Well said. I totally agree with you

[@David_Baxendale]

100% spot on. Social media has allowed people to voice these views in private groups and give them a faceless account which protects them from criticism and challenge. There is no civil society on social media as there are few if any consequences for voicing such views.

[@alexzzzzzzzzzz247]

@@David_Baxendale The scary thing is that this didn't happen on social media. He was brazen enough to call a talk radio station and have people hear his voice.

[@David_Baxendale]

@@alexzzzzzzzzzz247 Yeah, that is scary but I think it kind of starts on social media (the process that leads to a person calling up a radio show). Social media basically runs off discourse and argument. It's become the normal to have people like this guy around, they post their views and they see people agreeing with them: It's tolerated as it creates drama which leads to traffic and advertising revenue. People like this then find other people to chat to in groups and rather than sit at home with their views and thinking they are the only one, they suddenly see loads of people. Over time this gets in to the main media and their social media pages also carry this kind of thing. Eventually they're calling up radio shows and they genuinely believe most people agree with them. ItÄs scary to say but I think we all have to realise that there are a not so small group of people who do not walk around doing certain things for the reason that society doesn't tolerate it. Take that away or normalise a given act of behaviour and they'd start doing it.

[@jimbo1531]

I wouldn't worry too much, he sounds like he'll be dead soon.

[@MyDisavow]

So married couples who use IVF are ... ? Non-existent? Invalid? Should have their marriage licence revoked? Is everyone to be checked for fertility before the wedding day? "Marriage is only for baby production" is a nonsensical line of reasoning unless you plan to revoke all marriage licences for any woman past menopause with no minors living in their house. Marriage is supposed to be about spending your life with someone, not simply to produce someone else.

[@lizzieh5284]

Not according to the Catholic church.

[@kerjewski9358]

Equality is oppression to these people.

[@grahamcooper2144]

Well played Iain. The poor guy was an obvious open goal - but you very graciously opted not to point out how ridiculous he sounded or in any way mock him. Respect.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Liberalism and Degeneracy is destroying the West.

[@neildeeley4177]

@@djstuc what did he copy and paste

[@TequilaToothpick]

Nah the guy should have been humiliated and laughed at.

[@jameshart3879]

Bet Jim, being so pro life, gives thousands to Children in orphanages and care, as hes so passionate about a collection of cells being brought to term

[@dominoep]

So he said if a couple can't have children on their own their Marriage isn't the same as other Marriages? Does that also count for straight couples who can't conceive?

[@jennamakesbugs]

This old man totally misses- and likely does not care- that things were different when he was young mostly because women had few freedoms.

[@eidolon737]

Nothing shows narrow mindedness better than talking AT someone and not WITH them.

[@jonnyandali]

It's funny he thinks you choose your sexuality. 😂

[@DatDirtyDog]

Which means he probably had homosexual thoughts or feelings in the past and 'decided' (forced himself) to be straight which is why it irks him so much now.

[@arrshyan]

Welcome to right wing politics, can you hear the slow progress of fascism creeping in everywhere. Be careful.

[@jusnewquay]

Well, thanks to Jim, we now know it's possible for the brain to die before the body.

[@xotan]

@Justin Especially the tongue.

[@obiwann785]

Thanks for making me laugh 🤣

[@tjfSIM]

What a thoroughly obnoxious and tedious individual. Why do people with these views always think everyone should agree with them?

[@Skootavision]

If someone presumed to tell me what my mother would think, while also suggesting she was hateful and discriminatory, I would not be Iain Dale calm. Absolute red line.

[@Keln02]

Well, that was the daily limit to how much brain rot I can take in.

[@marygiles2823]

This proved to be hilarious and had me spluttering over my tea. Iain, your patience was admirable, but your sense of humour is wonderful. Well done for keeping calm and managing to subdue explosive laughter. I didnt make it, so my tea had to be abandoned till the video was over. Keep on keeping on.

[@wly725]

Unfortunatelly, this reasoning, if we can call it so, is spreading more and more in countries like South America, Europe, and even my own country, Spain.

[@fredarcher7264]

Forgo your tea and save your soul my dear.

[@andrewolgado6018]

Just like Rees-Mogg... back in dark ages

[@jeffsimon9594]

We are living through some pretty dark ages right now

[@Coelacanth1]

@@jeffsimon9594 It can darker, a lot darker.

[@timpullen4941]

I would live JRM to "come out". Stranger things have happened.

[@apollomemories7399]

@@timpullen4941 Indeed they have, like you learning to spell the word love.

[@daniellamcgee4251]

​@@apollomemories7399 Autocoorect is not a true representation of someone's spelling ability. And someone's spelling ability is no reflection on their ability to learn things other than spelling.

[@catladygoddess]

Listen to that Gish Gallop!! That caller is a complete trainwreck.

[@Do27gg]

Legalising abortions will have the same effect as legalising drugs. It prevents all the unmeasured dangerous use by making it regulated. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT IF THEY WANT TO DO IT

[@teichhorn973]

My spidey sense was tingling at “Solihull”. Probably the most small-c conservative place I’ve ever been.

[@Kevinacharles]

Although I used to work with some lovely people who come from Solihull, I have to agree with you.

[@Ken_oh545]

And it is definitely NOT in Birmingham! (Though to everyone else it is).

[@alandouglas8044]

Oh dear!

[@VoidDragon82]

I grew up in the 80's, mum and dad owned a small corner shop in a little Lancashire town and we were 1 of 3 Indian families there. So EVERYTHING was very insular and closed. One day 2 full on punks walked in the shop holding hands, they're called Phil and Jack. When they left i asked my mum why the boys were holding hands. My mum said this "its love. It doesn't matter if it's 2 boys or 2 girls, love is love". Clearly the conversation is more nuanced, but as a 6 year that's all i needed. Kids are a lot smarter than we think, and we forget that we were also kids and smarter than people gave us credit for. P.s on a side note Phil is a dentist and Jack has a little yarn shop now; from punks to tweeds!! 🤣. And yes they're both still together and happily married.

[@shroomer8294]

What a beautiful little story to hear.

[@gearoftones8585]

Being against killing babies doesn't mean you're FOR back street abortions. That has to be the laziest and dumbest argument I've heard yet

[@tylerj7298]

Miscarriage is an abortion. I think that caller should know that

[@joanofarc8099]

@@tylerj7298 get it right!....."spontaneous abortion" is the medical term for a unexplained miscarriage!....."abortion" is a medically or surgically induce termination of a pregnancy!....