Iain Dowie - Undr The Cosh Podcast #81

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Iain Dowie is with us this week, talking through his playing career at Luton, #CrystalPalace and #WestHam before moving into management at Crystal Palace, #Charlton, QPR, and Newcastle.
Timecodes
0:00 Intro
3:50 Pro Debut
7:50 Who the f**k are you. (Luton)
20:00 West Ham Fan, Dream Move
29:00 Best Mate Tim Flowers
34:35 Back at West Ham
37:00 Love Coaching more than playing
43:00 Crystal Palace
53:27 Leaving Palace and upsetting Simon Jordan
59:20 Charlton Athletic Job
1:02:25 Bouncebackability
1:07:33 Newcastle coaching job and International

[@trev4ni1]

Always gave 100% for club and country. Big gentleman too. Great interview.

[@jordanwebb4481]

One thing I like about dowie is how he takes responsibility for his actions/results. Everybody quick to point the finger and excuses these days

[@Rezmund]

Hear hear 👏👍

[@joeodonnell3165]

Seems like a great fella does Ian but he talks like he's thinking of a 100 things at the same time.

[@thelad789]

A lot of us have that mate.

[@steamonscreen7848]

Apparently hes very intelligent mate

[@namrofni6236]

I think he's got a degree in astrophysics

[@alphamentality5802]

Haha so true. It’s like he wants to explain 6 different stories at one time

[@thelad789]

@@alphamentality5802 Hey Mr Alpha, I guarantee more girls and guys have found Iain Dowie more alpha than you.. A KZbin troll.

[@mowvu5380]

imagine how long this podcast would be if dowie actually finished explaining every thought trail he had. top stuff

[@robwood8331]

Lol 😆

[@oddy532]

Lovely to see this come up in my recommended, few hours sorted for this morning

[@maccym2571]

I enjoyed this one, we can't always expect every guest to come on and be confident or have outrageous stories, the fact these guys give us time to interview them and have an insight in their career. I love hearing various stories and different ways player or managers operated.

[@loubutt8793]

57:17 - There's a good reason he doesn't really want to get into how he left Palace. Simon Jordan successfully sued Dowie for fraudulent misrepresentation - cases of which, are usually very difficult to prove. Dowie managed to convince Jordan to waive a £1m release clause in his contract so he could move up north to be closer to his family... he then joined our South London rivals Charlton, who were just 8 miles down the road. His phone records and a document/resume on his club laptop titled "Advancing the Addicks" proved he was in contact with Charlton before asking Jordan to waive the clause from his contract. It was a real shame that he left Palace in the manner that he did, but I think most Palace fans have forgiven Dowie by now... playing his part in relegating Charlton certainly helped that healing process 😄. Hearing his story brings back brilliant memories for me as a young fan. Jordan made many mistakes as Palace chairman, hiring Dowie was not one of them.

[@danielmulhern6085]

Tbh I don’t think we’ve forgiven him we just laugh at him cause of how badly his charlton job went. Also looking back we are in the prem now as they’re in league 1 and obviously he’s a big part of that tbf fair to him (for them not us)

[@mickeyp1257]

The man who gave us "Bouncebackability"

[@franriding6473]

And the corridor of uncertainty

[@aidanpoland9746]

My da had one fact bout Dowie. One fact, and he told it me every time we played a Dowie team, ‘he’s got a degree that guy...’ Every fucking time.

[@chrismcc8820]

Keep it up lads the podcasts yous are doing have me in stitches

[@TheClubGolfVideos]

Enjoyed that boys. Think it's quite nice to have different types of lads on and from slightly different eras too. Dowie seems a proper lovely bloke!

[@shaunlever1104]

legend. I interviewed Iain loads when I worked for Oldham Athletic. This is a brilliant piece.

[@wilko3017]

Apparently he invented the word bouncebackability, which is now in the English dictionary. True story.

[@jonhill3328]

There's a few inaccuracies. Bonuses were being paid at Palace, so that's untrue. Cahill wanted to go to Everton as a bigger club and turned Palace down, Carrick refused to even speak with Palace.

[@pandaboy9517]

I'm glad a randomer on web cleared up the facts I mean dowie was only palace manager

[@deletebilderberg]

Get Simon Jordan on lads!!

[@deletebilderberg]

I played against Iain a few times when he represented his school team in Hatfield. They were an exceptional side. Superb when he came to Luton!

[@markwilliams7054]

Didn't know he was local - I'm a Charlton fan originally from Hitchin

[@davidbrent2046]

One of the greatest nights as a Coventry fan was beating United at old Trafford with dowie in charge, an unreal night with dowie and the lads. All the best

[@jdb85]

Mifsud...

[@MrJimboCross]

Bet you had a great nice in chasers after with Finchy

[@richardkelbie5362]

@@jdb85 the midget

[@mister3566]

As a United fan those games are horrible to lose but it always seems to live forever in your clubs folklore. Not just your club but you know what I mean.

[@-nWo]

Played well for us at the dell, happy memories of him

[@poeticmic6219]

This is gonna be great 👍 clicked straight on this as soon as I sin it

[@kevob]

I love Dowie, thanks guys 👍👍👍

[@richardkelbie5362]

Its nice to see he has grown Into his face

[@GuinessOriginal]

Looks like he used to play 2nd row for weekend

[@mowvu5380]

i love that dowie really included chris in the footy stuff. he spoke to all three of our lads equally. as a luton fan and my dad was a west ham fan i loved this.

[@djdillion1]

I met Iain and his family a few times 15 years ago .. lovely guy lovely family❤️

[@quarenteam829]

Hello lads, this just came on my timeline and is fantastic content. Subscribed and will look forward to the next interview!

[@Gaztravels]

Seems like an honest bloke, enjoyed this one 👍

[@paule6945]

The best manager we have had since Joe Royle............top of my wish list for oldham.....🙏

[@fatheadmcdee]

Great interview from Big Ian and he is looking younger these days 😂😂

[@rhysgregory5897]

I love dowie, proper legend and lovely guy

[@bigdave7021]

Seems like a really good lad, surprised not to see John with a pint for once

[@dunnyzed6953]

John Moncur was my hero when I was growing up so this is brilliant. Thanks as always, lads 👌🏻

[@richardkelbie5362]

Mines was Batman

[@ArcadeCabNBud]

John moncur haha

[@stevetayler8833]

Just started watching these really funny, more fans should watch. makes you realise that footballers are just fallible humans like us “ordinary” people regardless of the money they earn and superstar status imposed on them.

[@King786_]

Top man Dowie and his family.

[@PotRipp3r]

That Grand Piano is class

[@stevehall5299]

What a fascinating man, very intelligent and great fun!

[@DelBoy82]

Simon Jordan owned him with that Court Writ …….. His searching for words around the Simon Jordan subject spells pure BS 🤣

[@adamhowarth4204]

I just read Simon’s book and Simon’s side of the story seems a lot more accurate. Dowie avoided the question here

[@southace]

Great taste in music

[@mickfoskett6629]

He knows his soul!..my mate from hatfield introduced him to me back in the 90s..very nice humble guy..got lots of time for him👹

[@dravalanche1997]

Me and mates hung around the Northern Ireland training as kids (we were the only 4 people there), every player and the manager signed autographs and chatted football in he Chimney Corner hotel. Except Dowie, he was my hero as N.I striker, when asked he just said no and turned his back. We were crestfallen, Bryan Hamilton said don't worry about him, he's a bit of a prat. Immediately us kids were laughing and smiling again. Dowie a real class act. NOT!

[@kphapa]

He did look like he had a chip on his shoulder many years ago but seems that’s he’s changed since then

[@freestyler1997]

Great guy. Like he’s tripping over his own words 😂

[@markshort5187]

thank god someone mentioned this, I was reading the comments thinking why is no one mentioning this?? haha

[@jarraandyftm]

It’s impossible to follow. Me ears are about to fall off.

[@edwindsouza8816]

Can't remember the name of the pub in Harpenden- we'd regularly see the Dowie brothers in there on a Sat night.

[@StrikingAlexa]

I still remember him scoring a fantastic downward header ...... into his own net

[@robfraser7524]

Hendon legend & a great bloke.....saw him score two goals on his Hendon debut away to Hitchin Town, Unbelievable goalscorer at non-league level. His brother Bob was a decent player too.

[@fredericks3756]

“...I was very very drunk.” Like some old Rowley Birkin QC tales. Good stuff

[@horseracingtipsno1657]

Ian’s a right character.very witty and legend

[@nickadams5212]

Massive fan of the podcast you guys do a great job and get really greets guests on but a must admit a was disappointed with this one. It was a shame Dowie did not want to get into anything like not naming people and not getting into the Simon Jordan thing which would have been great to hear his point of view. It seems like he was scared of any type of backlash which am surprised considering the type of bloke he portrays to be. Well done lads for trying thou 👍

[@tommorris8111]

I can't make sense of a thing he said during the Jordan section. Dodged everything. He obviously feels guilty about it.

[@itellyouwhy6957]

Big downer was superb.

[@alking1604]

I fucking love UTC, 10/10 again lads

[@jimmyk8278]

Get Neil Warnock on when you hit 50K subscribers! Imagine lol

[@pbplauralfilms]

Colin in his tightly whiteys

[@megaskyburst]

Get in t’shower Jimmy, you’ll make me sick if I keep looking at ya. Go and run yourself a bath

[@charltonjmb4245]

Wish he would of explained more about charlton and what went wrong

[@xrmoff]

David Bowie > Iain Dowie > TOWIE

[@MrTerryb1956]

Great video gents, I have a lot of time for Ian . Shame he's not in Management given time he would do a good job., open honest interview .

[@liam01211]

Great podcast lads, dowie definitely not as I had thought, changed my opinion of him, seems a top man

[@seanrushe6740]

Wish more guests recognised Chris as the top striker he was

[@robertwright9292]

I met Iain Dowie once.....bloody nice bloke.

[@mickfoskett6629]

same here..totally agree!👹

[@stevewalters700]

Parkys turn to drive for once then

[@phillyjones7861]

Guy in grey was the only one who asked the meaty questions and tried to get him to answer anything! He let us palace fans down, can tell he’s embarrassed about it all. Good podcast though fellas

[@TokyoJoe703]

Remember watching his brother Bob playing a charity game at grays athletic and the crowd shouting “go on fatty” every time he touched the ball

[@ew2079]

Thanks again guys best English football podcast about . Could yous try and hook up with si ferry heard him say he loves parky and the pod would be funny and good chemistry with you boys . Top top show this nothing beats it 👍

[@topsecret6995]

Remember him playing for West Ham top man - talks a lot of sense as well

[@liamkiely565]

As a Palace fan, I shouldn't, but I bloody love Iain Dowie! Iain Dowies Red-Blue army

[@liamkiely565]

With Iain's budget, he fucking well achieved!! At Charlton Iain was great, agent ID

[@leej4914]

The podcast guest or gong next level

[@BigKingBacon]

Cracking podcast, wish he could say exactly how he feels but obviously he needs to be more careful and rightly so

[@PNUK]

I'm saying the ref was Clattenberg

[@Brokenribs18]

Uncle Russell always said about him "He played a whole season for West Ham & the only goal he got was an own goal"

[@carlitomora]

God bless uncle Russell? How is he

[@Brokenribs18]

@@carlitomora He's good! Sober now 🤣

[@benjaminmulvaney793]

Really interesting listen, as others said he in such a rush to get his words out! 🤣 wish they had probed him more on Jordan? He lost in the high court after all, also bombed out of Charlton after 12 games. Seemed a bit star struck of him.

[@leedschampions6704]

It's a light hearted show mate not piers morgan

[@Feedthegoat]

😂😂

[@DannyB_7]

Do love a good story but RVN didnt sign for United until after Dowie retired

[@Ratherniche]

Yeah he clearly didn't know who scored but just plucked a utd striker out of the air. Nevermind.

[@leepopely]

I dare anyone to play a drinking game to this everytime you hear" you know"and "listen" tried it and cant get passed 18 mins

[@pbplauralfilms]

I think that's how Jimi Hendrix died

[@johncherry2205]

Brilliant fella , loved him playing for Northern Ireland, always gave 100%

[@davidmorewood144]

I would have to see a vote on best own goal i think the top two have been on Soccer A M obviously there is the one Iain scored and the one scored by Chris Brass he attempts to clear the ball by overhead kick as he faces his own goal the ball hits him in the face and shoots into the net

[@danielking8231]

Can you release this again with subtitles

[@megaskyburst]

Subtitling company won’t touch it mate.

[@thomascave3619]

has browny got cycling shorts on ?

[@Jdn19]

He's so intelligent that's he's slightly socially awkward. Lovely guy

[@bigdave7021]

Most academics are

[@guillembauza1658]

Any proof of Dani doing Strictly in Portgual?

[@alastairstewart26]

Giving me head ache how many times his sentence changes direction

[@yehudaankonina6031]

Haha matty in the end:) Great egisode

[@chriskennedy2298]

Matt le tissiers favourite strike partner

[@neilmccullagh3021]

Love the big man #GAWA

[@itsallreal]

Looks in better nick now then when he was a footballer.

[@MrMush78]

Wish i had a Quid for every time he said Listen 🤣

[@Feedthegoat]

Most footballers seem to say that to be fair, must be in their media training

[@brianmcintyre14]

I know, we're all fucking listening!

[@glenclark9743]

He's definitely had more than the one on the table 🍺🍺🍺

[@paulthurman5517]

The stuttering must be down to nerves. Top fella.

[@troyperkins8158]

Wouldn’t really say he’s got a stutter - he talks a mile a minute though

[@mrdeafa25]

Sounds powdered to me

[@scoop2963]

Yep. He's on the gear..

[@petersparshot4997]

Top man

[@billybigtime2808]

Those who thinks he’s on the beak he’s always talked and acted this way it’s just normal Dowie so unless he’s been in the bugle his whole career this is his normal vibe which admittedly is a bit like he’s been on the Bolivian marching Powder but you get my point.

[@xcxzzz5430]

Apparently hes auditioning for the role of the Riddler in the next Batman. Nice geezer but that was hard work!

[@edwardenright6153]

And rightly so

[@GVGames1986]

50 pence from crowd, thats a low blow. Shame it's hard to spot em, if I saw who done it I'd prolly have done a Cantona.

[@MrAdamfez]

great podcast but... I think you guys forgot to Mr. Dowie his daily Ritalin.

[@roberthayes9842]

Unusual way of talking, unfinished broken thoughts from one tangent to another in one sentence

[@chrisr3065]

Did he do a bump of snow before this. Can’t get a sentence out compared to how he is in GSS

[@pbplauralfilms]

Doubt Dowie did but I'm certain Crossley had a stripe

[@scoop2963]

Dowie on the gear?

[@rickymurray]

Listened to this on the drive home from work yesterday, couldn't help but think this should put him in the shop window, seemed like such a solid and smart guy. If he took over at West Brom of Fulham I'd say they both would stand a better chance of staying up

[@del7538]

The Belgians crack was definitely aimed at Lawrie McMenemy who had aa short stint as NI boss.

[@emmanuelshort3435]

“Listen”

[@MAX1BAILEY]

How do all these professionals not know browny was a player aswell! Next time just put it on them, dowie was a pundit and a manager aswell 😂😂😂

[@daveynew7783]

Managed against him in the play off to

[@RyanHCAFCWhitton]

Just about to watch this, wonder if he skims over his interesting time in charge of Hull.....😳

[@MrBurnley21]

Yeah probably he was shite we (Burnley Fc) trashed Hull 4-1 at their place back end of the season and we hadn't won away til that!!!

[@RyanHCAFCWhitton]

@@MrBurnley21 I'm a Hull fan and i seem to remember Gary Alexander?(could be wrong) scoring 1 possibly 2 penalties?

[@14Macca]

@@RyanHCAFCWhitton Graham Alexander

[@alp7891]

What do they mean by bomb squad?

[@14Macca]

Reserves

[@Ratherniche]

This interview was really really interesting with how he dealt with things and it makes you wonder why he isn't in the game at present and hasn't had a leading football role for ten years. After Charlton and that brief Hull stint it was all over for him. He really brushed over what happened with Crystal Palace at the end. It will be worth anyone's time to go through the court hearing and submissions made from Palace that were accepted as truthful. Simon Jordan said at the time following the high court hearing judgement "I took a man (Dowie) to the high court for fraudulent misrepresentation, and he's been found guilty... And I think that having the courage of your convictions to take it to the high court and bring an action - a very difficult action to prove, fraudulent misrepresentation - and be successful, is a good thing". There is no doubt he was fantastic at Oldham and Palace and what he achieved was incredible. It's such a shame he left there on such a sour note.

[@tsangpogorge]

Jazz Funk is Jamiroquai and Brand New Heavies.

[@jennyradcliffe5570]

He's gottta be on the ol party powder