Why The Redemption of A-Train Works

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The subtle buildup towards A-Train's redemption has been incredible to watch! I already love this show but seeing such cool writing with this character has been a treat. As the season nears it's end I can't help but be worried. Like most viewers, I think this seems too good to be true.
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[@ոakedsquirtle]

My username usually gets shadowbanned cuz it has the word naked in it so this is just a test comment. Anyways, I think A Train might be redemed, but it would lead to his death.

[@jobengals86]

Someone shadow ban this naked Pokémon he’s outta control

[@jakob7693]

The benevolent regime we live under.....

[@EggEnjoyer]

@@ոakedsquirtle Have some decency, put your shell on

[@EnderGrad]

Put that shell back on, fool

[@3dsmaster537]

Why is it naked?@

[@9ef3m]

That Teen Titan Go Robin scene is diabolical

[@professionaldunce6312]

I feel like The Boys Robin scene is a tad worse, but thas just me.

[@shawngreene9762]

Nah fr tho 😂😂😂 I wasn’t ready for that

[@hansuri401]

That was crazy

[@JustSirf-Sirfluffyton]

Fucking diabolical!

[@cmdrjanjalani]

You should see what they did in the TTG movie to make sure Bruce Wayne becomes Batman. TTG likes dark humor at times

[@paganavenger8920]

I do have to admit this version of A-train is a lot better than the one in the comics.

[@1922_kinda_girl]

Almost every version of the character in tho show is better than comics version😭

[@pt5728]

How different are they?

[@pt5728]

@@1922_kinda_girlreally? How so?

[@alltheworldsastage4785]

@@paganavenger8920 By far.

[@disparatebroom7705]

@@pt5728 in the comics, A-train along with homelander, the deep and black noir try to take advantage of starlight

[@NhatNguyen-ds7fu]

You can say he had a "change of heart" Edit: hi mom I am famous

[@daisylavender5275]

Literally 😅

[@LadyOfTheEdits]

I we what you did there lol

[@KpC169]

Haha nice

[@AgonyInk]

You cooked

[@goroakechi6126]

If I hear one more goddamn heart pun-

[@onganxiety8719]

The actor for A-Train has done a bang-up job subtly changing his character over the seasons and forming a really smooth redemption arc

[@Kspice9000]

Really hasn't but ight.

[@seanfooch6475]

Honestly Jessie is so underrated, not a lot of people talk about how good his performance as A-train is

[@lsimon343]

Jessie Usher has promise, he’s still young

[@devineggins4]

@@Kspice9000mfs always find a way to hate

[@aduckwithayoutubechannel]

@@Kspice9000 thanks for teaching all the kids on you that it’s okay to be wrong

[@jellyfsh5621]

I think the fact that his brother was his catalyst for change, not hughie or starlight, shows the writers dedication to not be hypocrites and give him a white savior like in a-trains movie. Because it makes sense, that A-train would change because the person who had gotten him so far and always stood by his side no longer supported him, not because of some random person he doesn’t care about.

[@Jj-uv6mi]

​​@@jellyfsh5621 I mean it isn't random, Huggie forgave and saved A-train more than once.

[@tgabz]

the way his brother warned him about the drugs too and tried to get him out of it, it's so tragic but great storytelling 😢

[@megarayquaza9054]

In fact, they USED that white savior part more tastefully as some sort of a movie he didn't like the idea of

[@carlycrays2831]

@@jellyfsh5621 Not just that, but it shows just how necessary this human connection is for the supes. And it's quite tragic that the vast majority of them don't have that the way A-Train does.

[@grismatics]

as a white dude i fully agree it makes much more sense for his family to change him than some hero (you could even argue that his brother is his hero since he got him this far and was seemingly behind him the entire time) EDIT: what i basically mean by what i said is that he never made his brother seem inferior in any way and he always seemed to consider him someone he could look up to

[@akyraccoon]

If he truly gets killed, I hope he gets a dope last fight with slow motion and all like Quicksilver.

[@unluckywan1322]

nah more like eternals

[@orest7026]

I think he will be killed but before that they will get the boys address from him. In the trailer we see the seven fight the boys in the cast iron building.

[@barbiquearea]

I like to think he will go out by saving Hughie's bacon again. I could see a situation where Homelander has Hugie, Frenchie, Kimiko, Billy, MM and Annie cornered. He neutralizes both Kimiko and Annie (although they are still alive) and is about to finish off everybody else, when A-Train suddenly wizes by and tackles Homelander. This leads an enraged Homelander to chase after him. The two then go on a high speed foot chase, with A-Train outrunning Homelander, but has to dodge his laser beams, which creates a lot of death and property damage throughout the city. Eventually however, A-Train tires whereas Homelander still not breaking a sweat appears and taunts him, before A-Train charges at him, and either gets bludgeoned or lasered to death.

[@oscardanny228]

I think he can see on slow mo, he would never run into Robin if that was the case...

[@brendonw456]

@@oscardanny228 It's "seeing in slo-mo" isn't infallible. A-Train is still restricted by physics. He was also high when he did that. Hell, even if he wasn't...he could have just spaced out while running

[@mediaknight]

I think this is a VAST improvement on the original comic version. There after killing Robin he quickly fell into a role as a dumbass frat boy for the rest of the series.

[@iAmLufa]

The show really improves the source material for sure!

[@Blackpanther-cr2vr]

yeah the comics are horrible and i dont like the Art style either

[@CyrusShameli]

Truly

[@benjili458]

@@Blackpanther-cr2vr hugie looks like a middle aged man with 4 children lmfao

[@devineggins4]

@@benjili458 he’s based off Simon Pegg in the comics

[@Carter-pl9ll]

I feel like he will die after trying to inject homelander with the supe virus, he’s the only one fast enough to do it without getting instantly killed

[@jedi098765]

You're cooking bro

[@onlyritedavo]

Carter you might be him bro

[@Adonisius_Kavata]

@Carter-pl9ll I feel like what will happen is A Train injects the super virus into Homelander, Homelander stops him, and a fight ensues. A Train bravely fights Homelander, buying The Boys valuable time to escape and/or try injecting Homelander again with a team up something like we saw from Herogasm episode with Soldier Boy.

[@bigmonke1449]

@@Carter-pl9ll But homelander is way faster than A train

[@Carter-pl9ll]

@@bigmonke1449 true but a train is probably the fastest person in the world other than him that we know of

[@canaan5337]

3:35 A-train’s brother is really naïve if he thinks there was a possibility of Blue Hawk facing any kind of justice other than what A-train served up.

[@Tycon]

Pretty much in the context of the world of the boys, A-Train got the only justice that was going to happen. At best bluehawk was getting PR community service but as a hero face of vought he was going to be protected just as everyone else. Also felt pretty personal and poetic for him to drag him to death considering history... He gave blue hawk an extra chance to make things right and he still fucked it up, in the context of the injust world bluehawk still got off easy. Also missed out on A-Train being the one who gets the evidence that out's stormfront as a literal Nazi. Very happy with A-Trains arc though just going to be that much sadder when he gets black noired

[@ShowMeDemBoobies]

​@@Tyconyou just said exactly what OP said in way more words

[@adonislanzones]

I mean he was to represent us Mothers Milk's Father

[@ShowMeDemBoobies]

@@adonislanzones the fuck are you even talking about. A Train has absolutely nothing to do with M.M. or his father.

[@SplashAttackMSM]

When his brother said that to him I was like "Oh you deserved what you got.

[@swaco.]

I think A-Train's arc is some of the most well written character progression we've seen in a show recently. All of the building blocks of his story feel natural and cohesive and writers have done a great job making A-Train seem like a person who just got carried away by power and influenced by the horrible people around him.

[@jairusjackson7799]

Agreed, it's like Hughie said. He just ran through life, unbothered about the destruction he was causing. Until because of a heart attack that he brought on himself, he was finally forced to slow down and take a look behind himself to see all the awful things he had done.

[@arx3516]

In the last episode we got a clue that the supes's deranged behaviour could also be caused by compound V. We saw how after taking V sheeps, one if the most timid herbivores, transformed into super aggressive predators. Humans have the ability to control such impulses, but it's still there. We also saw Starlight becoming extremely violent after being pushed too far.

[@homestrongerhomesmarterhom4549]

@@arx3516 nice theory!

[@andreww.3757]

I think it was said at one point that Compound V enhances what’s already there.

[@carlycrays2831]

​@@arx3516There is also the fact that along with this, just having these powers is a horrifying experience. A big reason A-Train is able to have a redemption arc is because he had a brother who protected him and had a healthy, loving relationship with him.

[@methodz11]

I just hope that if a train and homelander do fight it’s actually a really good fight and not just a train getting rocked ina few seconds.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

Did you watch the first episode of invincible? With red rush vs Omni man?

[@DeeDeeDeeeee]

@@JamaicanMeCrazy the power gap between homelander and a train is a lot smaller than red rush and Omni man tho

[@shivamjha5578]

​@@DeeDeeDeeeeeNo it isn't homelander can do the same to a train which a train did to Robin or just a full powered laser blast would be enough for a train

[@ChessKing-ev8km]

@@shivamjha5578 A-Train probably can't dodge a point blank C4 explostion, let alone save both a baby and a man that are right next to it, without anyone being hurt. Homelander is definetely faster than A-Train and obviously stronger. Lasers are also light speed, so there's that as well.

[@bgos4727]

​@@ChessKing-ev8kmI'm calling bs. If black noir handled the laser in diabolical series then A train can dodge a few lasers

[@EJD339]

I know Anthony Starr deservedly gets a lot of praise for his performance but I really think Jessie T Usher puts on a great performance as well. He does a lot of subtle things that just really add the layers to A-train

[@saneishamccoy7212]

@@EJD339 yes

[@thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong]

@@EJD339 I know it's crazy, bjt his face acting really mames the character. lots of barely restrained anger

[@jordanromesburg6819]

Hughie absolving A-Train of his guilt *before* any heroic sacrifice/death scene was really cool to me. It made Hughie's choosing to do so feel proactive and organic, rather than "oh crap, we've gotta wrap up this arc before dude is gone", if the scene had coincided with his death.

[@Kspice9000]

Nah definitely felt more like the latter.

[@bgos4727]

​@@Kspice9000not at all

[@georgetriantafyllidis6525]

Yeah I think it tied up great with Hughie's ark in the past couple episodes that he spent with his mother. He learned not really to forgive, since both his mom and A-Train don't deserve it, but giving them a second chance now that they realized how fucked up they acted.

[@jordanromesburg6819]

@@georgetriantafyllidis6525 this! It feels like Hughie is realizing that the best way to truly defeat your enemy is to make them your ally. Now if (when, probably) A Train goes out, it'll be as an actual hero, because he could've ran out of that alley and went right back to his old ways, but instead he's working for good

[@SyndicateOperative]

"I forgive you for viciously murdering someone beloved to me" is a disgusting response to anything at any point. It isn't redemption, it isn't forgiveness, it's the character being too lazy to care anymore.

[@Jayquinator-X]

I bet A-Train dies saving his brother in some way

[@orest7026]

Nah he will get captured and questioned by the seven which is how they will know that the boys are in the cast iron building since they fought the seven there in the trailers. Just my theory. A train knows where the boys are at.

[@michaelr6182]

I'd like for him to stay alive as long as Deep and then he takes Deep out before his own death.

[@thebonfireofgains]

Or Homelander threatens Nathan and the kids. Man is more unhinged now so its possible

[@aliciaavendano2194]

Or saving Hughie

[@gamerdweebentertainment1616]

@@michaelr6182 Made me realise how 2 people in bad situation end up in different direction. I'm amazed Deep hasn't flipped after all he has been through.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I don't think A-Train wants to become a hero. I think he's just so tired of all of Homelander's insanity and all the crimes he's complicit in that he can't continue anymore. If he could disappear like Maeve, he probably would, but he knows he doesn't have a choice anymore. Also, Sage definitely has her own plans. Sage smiled when Homelander compared himself to Caesar, and Caesar was assassinated.

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

I agree. I think there’s a big difference between saying A-Train has turned and saying A-Train is redeemed

[@makisbizarreadventure4669]

@@KingOfMadCows I have to disagree. Well after the most recent episode with the kid smiling at him. Info you didn’t know at the time; but I think he cares and wants to be a hero

[@carlycrays2831]

​@@makisbizarreadventure4669I mean, if he has to be there, he probably feels like he might as well be a hero. Plus, Homelander isn't giving him much choice

[@leonelmcmuffin4483]

@@KingOfMadCows I was thinking like this too but (spoilers) On the last episode, when he rescues MM and that kid smiles at him and A-train smiles back, idk, it make me feel like he actually enjoyed being seeing as a true hero for once.

[@Trump_all_cops_are_brave]

Nah he definitely wants to be a hero

[@Johnny_JD]

9:47 I’m pretty sure in this scene Sage literally tells him that she knows he’s guilty and he’s just trying to get on her good side by being friendly

[@eliboring482]

Think it’s queen maves diary or starlights, the diary is decorated that way

[@eliboring482]

Could say it’s firecrackers but I jus think it’s a mave Easter egg

[@La-Machina]

Yeah she legit came up to a-train specifically for no reason and says "the files couldn't have just "ran" off". There's no way she didn't know. IMO she's sparing a-train from homelander finding out. Remember that they were on a team together. If she was really on homelander's side, she'd tell HL and have him laser a-train during their next meeting, setting an example to cate, sam, and tek knight.

[@ShowMeDemBoobies]

​@@eliboring482 Maeve*

[@MetalsirenIXI]

@@La-Machina And Sage was talking to Tek Knight

[@jejemiados1947]

There's an interesting point to be made here: A-Train frames the whole act of "good deeds" as a death wish to MM. I really want him to survive, merely so the message conveyed is: ""good deeds, doing what's right, is a dangerous thing, yet IF you have the power to face those adversities, there's no reason to think twice about being a good guy". It would be so incredibly heartwarming to see him as the one who turns the supes into actual heros. Imagine him being the Superman of the boys (in concept only, as a beacon of hope for humans)

[@alejandrobaguer8095]

As warm and idealistic as that sounds, I don’t think this show would do something like that. We can only hope!

[@veemon9280]

@@alejandrobaguer8095 I still think they are going to use him for a dramatic death instead.

[@maliboomer8015]

Well he ends the season alive and well, and just runs away by himself at the end of it to escape it all. So I guess you got half of what u wanted to see in his character.

[@alejandrobaguer8095]

@@maliboomer8015 the season hasn’t finished yet

[@Ash_Rein]

It’s interesting to me that people aren’t paying attention to this show. The good guys are not the good guys. It’s about sacrificing who we are to get the things we want. It’s not about villains and good guys. It’s about making choices based on what we think, we deserve. He’s not going to live. If he does, it betrays what the comics in the show aim to stand for. It’s grim. Butcher is literally the villain of the whole thing. He’s going to kill everybody. He’s going to kill a train. He’s going to kill Homelander. He’s going to kill his friends. The only one who’s going to live is Huey. Starlight going to live because she loves Huey and she has that I love you protection. Everybody else is going to die.

[@Shadow0464-ey9eh]

I really hope they don't pull on A-Train the same thing they did with Black Noir last season, still very disappointing how he ended up getting killed by Homelander at the end. All that build up for him fighting Soldier Boy, only for getting wasted for the sake of shock value. A-Train deserves an emotional well written ending.

[@zeno-two0255]

With Noir death. That's normal. Life is unpredictable.

[@abcdefg-ox6mu]

@@zeno-two0255 Narratives aren’t supposed to be realistic they are supposed to be compelling

[@Kspice9000]

Nah A train straight up deserves worse.

[@Kspice9000]

​@abcdefg-ox6mu and a compelling narrative is one grounded with atleast some realism.

[@bgos4727]

@@Kspice9000 no he doesn't. Leave my man alone

[@podcastmotivation36]

It would be very poetic if A Train saves Starlight from death. His first scene in the show is killing Hughies girlfriend and his final scene is saving Hughies girlfriend.

[@noahxgaming4382]

Underrated comment I like this idea

[@politisk_prins]

No way sage doesn’t know already.

[@ernestcheung5467]

she probably does, just doesn’t have proof yet

[@thezeronelite]

Considering they knew each other on Teenage Kix, I think she's protecting him

[@jasonpatz4512]

@@thezeronelite that's what I'm thinking too. Seems they have bond history

[@nolasaint24]

I think she knows but she wants to see how far A Train’s betrayal will go and how many people will get involved. Remember this is the smartest PERSON in the world and Sage isn’t someone who likes rushing things. She likes taking it slow and letting things play out so once she initiates her plan the damage is bigger than before. I highly doubt it has anything to do with needing evidence since she’s Homelander’s right hand woman. He would believe anything she says plus there would be no reason for her to lie. Could it be because she has a past bond with A Train? It’s possible. Maybe they dated in the past but things didn’t work out. Could also be why A Train didn’t fuck with her despite knowing her. I kinda doubt this but it’s a possibility

[@weed3728]

It’s crazy because she definitely knows lmao I feel like the only reason she has not snitched on him yet is because he’s a one of the only black members of the seven and she also knows how unhinged Homelander is there’s more layers to her character for sure

[@franciscofernandez3415]

I just watched EP 6 and man, the scene where A-train takes M.M to the hospital and the little boy smiles at him really convinced me that A-train can be redeemed, when the boy smiled at him, A-train (almost) smiled back, because for the first time in his life he saw someone who admired him as a hero, not because of Vought's media manipulation, but because in that moment, he was really acting like a hero.

[@carlycrays2831]

I mean, his powers are actually useful. And he is great at being a celebrity. He really could do a lot of good

[@antra21]

That was a little boy.

[@TheLastArbiter]

Hughie pissed me off when he asked A-Train to get the V from Homelander’s room. Primarily, he is endangering an extremely important piece of their plan. Asking him to do something so selfish and stupid right when he is starting to become truly sympathetic to their cause is beyond braindead. I am honestly floored that A-Train agreed to do it. Shows how much he really wants to make up for his sins. And I’m glad Hughie forgave him. I hope A-Train survives, at least long enough to deal a decisive blow, but he is throwing way too many death flags for me to have confidence in him surviving the season. They are setting him up for some kind of heroic death to prove he actually is a hero in the end, since everyone is calling him a fraud. Also props to Jessie T. Usher for his phenomenal acting!

[@Kspice9000]

Nah shows how dogshit the writing is.

[@mono-tone362]

wouldn't you wanna save the only family you have left if you were in his position?. Even then he didnt go through with it and let go of his dad, yeah it was a selfish decision in the first place but can you blame him?

[@TheLastArbiter]

@@mono-tone362 the fact that it was all for nothing except his own closure kind of makes it worse. They didn’t gain anything from putting one of their strongest new allies in mortal danger. Hughie screwed up by ignoring his dad, and that sucks, but potentially dooming the entire world by sabotaging his team’s plans against homelander is a bad trade for a gamble at waking his father up from a coma. It’s the trolley car question. I also thought A Train could use it as an excuse to stop helping them now that he feels he doesn’t owe them anything.

[@Error-ke1tf]

@@TheLastArbiter Picture someone who sheltered and loved you now dying in a hospital room with a day or two left to live. You're not thinking of the sum total good for humanity, you are thinking there's a chance to keep them alive and said asset turning or being caught was not a guarantee. To begin with, that asset owed you for killing someone else you loved. Grief causes people to do things they otherwise would not do. It's only human. Highie made a bad call, we saw that with all the violence, but it gave him a chance to get closure. It wasn't not worth it.

[@KennyWlr]

How dare Hughie ask so much of the person that killed his girlfriend and then laughed about it.

[@tylerdaniels7294]

I used to hate a train, but I always enjoyed his performance now with season 4 I can like the character

[@Kspice9000]

Nah he still sucks. I don't call character development "changing because every disrespects you enough to call you a selfish entitled dipshit to your face." Dude didn't give a fuck about anyone he hurt and still doesn't even after blue hawks poorly written bullshit. And now he gets "redeemed" because "now he knows how it feels". Fuck that. Dude was bully that's spinelessness is hidden poorly behind his superpowers.

[@ashtonndlovu9470]

@@tylerdaniels7294 true that's me Props to the Actor, he can be hatable and simpathetic Likable and scary great range

[@nightmare5510]

Same with homelander, sure he is a terrible person but I enjoy him in the show because of his performance

[@StormTrooperEX]

i feel like sage is secretly playing the long game sabotage homelander showing just enough results to be trusted by him while planning to turn ryan against him

[@carlycrays2831]

I mean, she sort of has to. She's smart enough to know that, ultimately, she can't control him, no one can. And absolutely no one is safe with him alive

[@BrutalCarnage]

it started with A train, it needs to end with him to make it feel emotionally impactful. Maybe not his death but is powers. His weakness and addiction to his powers started all this, so him willingly sacrificing his powers would bring it full circle

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

That teen titan scene was SO EVIL, i was DISBELIEF.

[@Ysumbruh0]

Looks like something that would happen in the boys that crap was hilariously messed up

[@orcastrike7750]

Bro episode 7 reinforces this video tenfold, that interaction between A-Train and M.M was amazing

[@ffffffffffffff43]

THEY BETTER NOT JUST KILL HIM INSTANTLY. I want him to put up a decent fight against Homelander or whoever else. In fact, I want him to damage Homelander in some way. He is a speedster, except for Homelander or other speedsters, he should be a dangerous force to handle. And even Homelander shouldn’t have a walk in the park imo

[@chongwillson972]

@ffffffffffffff43 it all depends on WHEN and WHERE he gets called out for, but I will be sweating anytime homelander holds him ( i.e. holding his shoulder, patting him on the back, hugging him, etc.)

[@ffffffffffffff43]

@@chongwillson972 maybe, but that’s something the writers should avoid. They’ve put too much work into a train’s redemption to just kill him like black noir, which was anticlimactic as hell

[@firecat4529]

3:40 I don't think A-Train hurt him on purpose here since he loves his brother.

[@looots1320]

anyone in that position would move cause no one liked to be pushed around, so its most likely accidental

[@mackncheese1683]

@@looots1320 Yup. His brother was an aggressor in that situation.

[@TheTriangle444]

A-Train definitely deliberately did that to inflict something on his brother, but immediately felt it was too much

[@tricky7153]

I have this feeling once he’s redeemed fully he’s gonna die either by Homelander or someone else. I hope that once he redeems himself he just removes compound v from his system and lives a normal life with his brother

[@Ro__fittt]

I really hope he doesn’t :(

[@diamonddustin7664]

I think it’s pretty obvious he is going to die, that would make his redemption arc better, him sacrifing himself to probably save the boys and his motivation being that he prefers to die being a hero rather than to keep on living a false life

[@Ro__fittt]

@@diamonddustin7664 you are entirely correct I hope because the show always has twist and turns they will figure out a way to make him live, but I don’t think he will

[@KnoxCarbon]

At least Maeve got a happy ending.

[@decepticonxhunter4850]

@@KnoxCarbon Depends on how you define "happy". She wasn't exactly thrilled about the prospect of having to live the rest of her life as an ordinary person when Soldier Boy burned the V out of her system.

[@Saje3D]

Oddly enough, I think Ashley’s words hit home too. “You only give a shit because it happened to YOU.” Then there was the confrontation and his SINCERE apology to Huey, for which he got super punched in the face. Which was reasonable, honestly.

[@grudge290]

He got a physical change of heart and a moral change of heart.

[@tommy_swim243]

I went from wanting him to die the most to not wanting him to die at all and I’m worried that he’s going to die this season.

[@marcusisme9147]

Just realized he’s called A-train because of the sound he makes when he runs😂

[@t6483b]

@@marcusisme9147 no wayyyyy 🤯 I'm son dumb 😭

[@punpun2731]

Newest episode just proved that they are building a redemption arc for him

[@BeavisSaves]

A-Train becoming a decent person is such a huge difference from the comics, I like it.

[@KyleMozza]

8:30 hehe “running” with it 🤭

[@iAmLufa]

I’m glad you don’t find it corny haha that was not intentional

[@user-pg9hq7us8y]

@@iAmLufa it was pretty smooth tho

[@Rap-Slinger]

@@iAmLufa it was "fast" 🫵😎

[@cv442]

They're doing a great job with his story arc. I hope the actor gets more roles after this show. The only other thing ive seen him on was a walking dead spinoff

[@lkhgsllksgj]

He’s a main character in “Shaft” and a a side character in “the banker” both really good movies

[@nickpillow5692]

@@cv442 Jessie really can act

[@ashtonndlovu9470]

Also in indipendance day 2 as will smith's Son

[@brooklynbutter5357]

If you are interested, the actor, Jessie T. Usher was in a multi-season show called ‘Survivor’s Remorse’ from like 2014 and was the main character. That was the first time I saw him and have liked his work ever since.

[@bobnotbobff]

My favourite character arcs are a train and the deep

[@LadyOfTheEdits]

@@bobnotbobff same!

[@McNair_Music]

The deep still has to redeem himself

[@bobnotbobff]

@@McNair_Music not necessarily he can just have an arc and die, but to like him as a person yeah, but his still a fictional character

[@bgos4727]

I hate the deep this season especially he went back to being homelander lapdog

[@bobnotbobff]

@@bgos4727 can't wait till homelander finds out what in his closet lol

[@wer2006]

Wow, the whole Tek knight plotline aged quickly...

[@konstantinhorizon]

@@wer2006 aged like fine milk

[@ismaill-0819]

Just remember that the name of this season finale eps is "Assassination Run" 😢

[@ShadowProject01]

I started out the series hating A Train so much but seeing his slow redemption I’m in his corner now, but I agree I am so worried he is gonna get dismembered by Homelander at some point or worse. Who’d have thought I’d come to actually care if he does or not. Peak writing that

[@MariUrameshi]

Even after season 1, I felt A train would eventually have a redemption arc. Just didn’t know when it would happen but we’re finally seeing it. The Deep is the character I felt would never change and it’s looking that way

[@freddyfastbear5928]

The way I see it their arcs are going completely opposite

[@kyzeltsn2579]

Bro had a literal change of heart

[@kiritadoshi]

Here a few more details you may be missing from season four. We are collecting a group of people with abilities that outclass homelander in some capacity. In an overall stat spread homelander wins ofc, but not in specialization. Mainly: Kimiko’s healing abilities A-Trains speed And Sister Sage’s intellect With that you may be thinking, sister sage is a bad guy on homelander’s side. Well it is pretty obvious she has ulterior motives. She knows Atrain is the mole yet says nothing. She is making the Deep loyal to her. She most likely knows the exact whereabouts of the Bous, yet does not attempt to eliminate them. She is trying to seperate homelander from ryan. Essentially, she is trying to give homelander one frankly worthless ally, firecracked. All the while the writers are poising his son to be the newest and baddest villain. It seems to me her goal may be eliminating homelander (perhaps by utilizing the boys and those she is defecting/allowing the turning away of from homelander). Then swoop in and use ryan to secure her position as the most powerful person due to having the most powerful lackey.

[@davidcardozo290]

I might be crazy but I think full power Starlight can one shot Homelander, imagine her powers near a nuclear plant or an electric one. Maybe, just maybe her light beam can be deadlier than Homelander's.

[@freddyfastbear5928]

Honestly we don’t know how many motives Sage has, she definitely has other plans other than helping homelander, but I doubt she would be trying to help humanity, since she told Neuman that humans are worthless because she was made fun of when she found a cure to her grandmother’s disease.

[@freddyfastbear5928]

@@davidcardozo290even if she did I doubt her body can take in that much energy

[@eliclaunch123]

I think he will die protecting his brother from homelander.

[@alejandrobaguer8095]

I think Homelander will threaten to kill his brother and nephews if he doesn’t kill The Boys or comply with whatever his demands are. He completes his redemption by trying to inject Homelander with the virus, than dying saving Starlight. He started the show killing Hughies girlfriend, and now he’ll end his run on the show by saving Hughie’s girlfriend

[@supersupersomething]

Damn that April Fools was no joke. 0:43

[@ControversialOpinionGuy]

Something I'd do fr fr

[@MasonTheYoung]

Seeing A-Train being a real hero for once was something else

[@bahumatneo]

I never expected them to make me like a-train.

[@aso375]

A-Train reminds me of Prince Zuko, because he is a villain with a conscience, he receives painful epiphanies throughout the series that tell him to stop being a selfish coward and cut out his toxic environment, but he chooses to ignore that and he pays big time. He gets what he wanted, to remain the number one speedster and return to the Seven, but at the price of becoming a sycophant and a hitman, being left alone and losing the trust of both his family and Starlight. His redemption is painful, because he is full of remorse for not having done it sooner and no one trusts him, but you only have to watch The Deep to see that giving up is much worse.

[@N7gamer1337]

I honestly believe A-train is one of the few Supes who can go toe to toe with Homelander and maybe even kill him. 1. He’s too fast and Homelander while fast in the air, hasn’t shown impressive ground speed equal to his. 2. We’ve seen Homelander has a weak spot in his ears when Maeve stabs him with a pipe so A-train at full speed could do the same and even make the the stab fatal.

[@kblearner1528]

Homelander is sometimes too fast (C4 explosion scene) but after Soldier Boy's nuke affected him his reaction is as slow as a normal guy

[@martinurra9512]

I say this meaning it for real, but A-Train arc its so well written over the seasons that it reminds me to Zuko from Avatar the last air bender. I hope that he will have a good ending, being becoming a real superhero or having an heroic death

[@shoes5691]

After A-train pretended to care after that whole thing with his heart he actually started to care

[@sniper007uk]

I have been loving Season 4 so far but this video was so full of information that I didn’t realise I’d forgotten! This is really going to help me appreciate it even more. Thank you!

[@marscylla]

with how far the seasons releases are spread out its easy to forget some of the stuff that happens

[@nexus666__]

In episode 6 , A-train saves mothers milk and gets respect from a kid, i hope they dont kill him off in the end

[@mrcead]

This is one "turn over a new leaf" scenario that doesn't have me rolling my eyes. Hughie's flip flopping is really contagious tho😂

[@xJohnnyBloodx]

The race swap of A-train had a purpose in this show. It forced him in this position that can empathize with oppression and thus empathize with regular humans. His relationship with his family is also a give away to how Homelander's plan is going to crumble. Most supes have a normal family who they care for. They wouldn't see humans the way Homelander does.

[@gore6065]

Man, i love when youtube analysis videos just linearly describe the events of media without any actual analysis or critique beyond what is literally just presented right in front of me. this video doesn't even describe why the redemption works, its just telling me what happened.

[@thatoneguy5347]

3:41 I think moving out of the way was just a reflex to stop being pushed. I don’t think he meant for Nathan to fall over, since he immediately tries to help him up afterwards

[@damianstarks3338]

Happy to see A Train on his road to redemption. Great video on A Train by the way.

[@heftyx3]

KZbin recommending this two days late is CRAZY! 10/10 my dude. We’ve been hyped the new season is out. I figured we’d get a video with you also being a fan! It lived up to the hype!

[@iAmLufa]

@@heftyx3 Woohoo!! Glad you liked it :D

[@deeskman1549]

man this most recent episode was heartbreaking. i really want a train to survive and be happy in the end

[@harvesterofsubs5561]

Bro really just said A-Train “got nerfed” by coronary heart disease

[@jwbetter4562]

11:05 his sounds effects are SO COOL

[@TheLudicrousLuv]

Its so iconic yet intiminating

[@manuelrojas7843]

I’ve been rewatching the first 3 seasons and I appreciate him and deep so much more now

[@messicanboi1382]

Tek knight gone, sage has brain damage, a-train looking safe rn

[@saboneteteira]

@@messicanboi1382 Sage recovers quickly and now Homelander knows that it wasn't Cameron Coleman who was talking to MM, not to mention that A train disappeared for a long time at the party and came back out of nowhere suspiciously

[@user-sl1co7hb1l]

Honestly, the A-Train redemption arc is the most respectful development they’ve given in a characters development outside of Homelander and they might be tied

[@alltheworldsastage4785]

3:37 Honestly, I peeped that the first time I saw it, but, f*ck it, it was funny AF!😂

[@koopa6_412]

A train is one of the most entertaining characters to me rn he’s one of the funniest to me and his interactions with the boys are gold

[@biscuit4638]

this is a great analysis

[@pkroninverse7307]

This character is Actually opposite of his comic version They just flipped His character to Deep of Comics

[@williamthomas1811]

Reading some of the comments here and I think some of them are hilarious. I think Sage has her own agenda and is playing ALL the characters (and not necessarily A-Train) against one another. And I think the other Supes are missing it because -- and, bluntly, as a Black man, I find this to be true in real life as well as reel life -- I don't think they can truly imagine a Black character with an agenda, goals and ideas that don't center on the approval or acceptance of the white protagonist(s). But, admittedly, that's just a guess. And, moreover, the show's writers are (mostly) white.

[@A.S._Trunks]

Yoo bro u might be cooking something devious...

[@davidcardozo290]

I doubt people or characters from the show underestimate people for their color. The only one who did that was Stormfront, and look where that left her...

[@ayyrazza]

I think A train knows something about Sage. She may be suspicious about him but they do go back to ‘Teenage Kix’ and he did say ‘she doesn’t know when to keep her mouth shut. He may not seem that worried because he has something in his back pocket for Sage just in case.

[@itsyaboi921]

Did he really say that? Maybe that’s foreshadowing how she ends up dying

[@bluesquirrel0175]

A train feels like the most accurate representation of a an average lower/middle class citizen growing up being able to break the sound barrier easier than breaking a sweat. Not as straight up demented as home lander, just a physically overpowered, mentally regular dude, he can’t change the system, idr if he’s even bullet proof, not much to do but keep going. I don’t think most people would be any better.

[@Balo168]

I hope the Deep doesn't get a redemption. Would love to see him just get banished from humanity into the sea.

[@joffrecueva4961]

Yes, it started with A-train and it should end with his redemption arc.

[@kakorotskywalker]

0:42 The worst gotta be what Joker did to Jason Todd

[@MasutaMJ]

I don't want A-Train to die. He finally on the path to becoming the hero he meant to be.

[@shanehenry4353]

Seeing a train become a better person is honestly really cool

[@ilyasvincent7593]

The final of this season is called assassination run so I think a-train is gonna have some awesome fights killing Supes and maybe taking down sage before he dies ,which is funny since he's a flash parody he could be doing something that the flash would actually do,I hope The Deep has an amazing fight with a-train to,see his powers in action for once

[@Revellius21]

I have a feeling Sage is a double agent. I think she's trying to destroy the Seven herself.

[@ktleen]

How so? Double agent for who

[@bgos4727]

Nah she just want chaos

[@majintv24]

And now he saves MM and seems to be happy to be a true hero in a childs eyes. Now unfortunately this probably will result in A-Train getting hoed.

[@Levely4234]

My glorious goat got his first real save yesterday 🤩🤩

[@kyresefleming983]

I'm hoping for a plot twist where A-Train frees Soldierboy and creates a team to counter the seven in the final season. Bringing back a repowered Queen Maeve and maybe some of the gen v characters or the head popper.

[@freddyfastbear5928]

Aint no way Soldier Boy is still gonna be on their side after they betrayed him💀💀 even if he’s freed I think he probably would be like the dude who is on nobody’s side

[@ha-kh7ef]

This is all started because of a-train which is funny. I hope he gets a good ending

[@radmilk73]

Great video!

[@iAmLufa]

Thanks!

[@beautifulstrange7057]

Excellent video. I always found Maeve and A-Train to be way more interesting and sympathetic than the boys themselves. A-Train is definitely my favorite character in the show, with Soldier Boy and Queen Maeve as second and third. I definitely feel like my boy’s cooked. But I would not consider it out of the cards for Sage to leave him as an element of chaos that ends up setting up Homelander to be stopped and it’s Sage or even Butcher that becomes the final antagonist. Newman has final boss aura, but I don’t think she’s that evil, just power hungry.

[@umar5685]

I feel like the shapeshifting supe will bait A Train as his brother and lure him to homelander where he can't escape or run away

[@TheLewinator902]

Hey man you should really do one on The Deep, I personally think he shouldn’t be redeemed and I’m kinda glad he’s going down the villain arc.

[@iAmLufa]

Huge thanks for the support! I could see myself making a video on the deep once I see where he ends up in season 5. Need to see where he goes

[@Ulfhednar1993]

Thats scene when kid saw him nearby hospital and smiled at him and a train realizing it was all about this kind of moments, was well done

[@Agote_001]

Honestly in season 2 and 3 he was already one of my favourite characters in the show along with Frenchie, but now he is my absolute favourite, no competition.

[@fahada.979]

A-Train's redemption arc reminds me of Zuko's redemption arc from Avatar the last air bender

[@jairusjackson7799]

I know what you mean. A lot of redemption arcs miss this key element. The villain, actually has to apologize and seek forgiveness from those he has wronged. A LOT of fiction writers try to skip over this part, and instead just want the villain to start doing good, and hope the heroes start warming up to him, rather than having him apologize and own up to the mistakes he made, and wrong he did to them. A-train's arc works, because he's ACTUALLY sorry, and is now going out of his way to make amends

[@racool911]

@@jairusjackson7799But honestly actions speak louder than words. Zuko's apology meant nothing. It was the adventures he went on with the gaang that allowed them to warm up to him

[@jairusjackson7799]

@@racool911 The adventures mattered yes. But you're wrong to assume a genuine apology is meaningless. Words have weight, you may start doing good deeds for someone you wronged and think that makes up for it. But if you can't look them in the eye, and admit you wronged them and that your sorry, then doing them favors won't cut it. It's also a lesson in being humble, Zuko a prince, got on his knees and was willing to join Team Avatar even as a prisoner. He let go of his pride, and showed sincerity to prove he'd changed. That's what so many redemption arcs are missing, A-Train had a moment of humbleness when he apologized to Hughie

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

AMAZING VIDEO!!! So good to know the new season is still high level and im surprised A train is getting a protagonist treatment, he has a great arc. And by not being the protagonist he's not THE story and dont need to be a good guy protected by the plot which puts him in bigger danger of bad things and can lead to a more original story.

[@iAmLufa]

That’s a great point! Never thought about it that way

[@gyrozeppeli7869]

Sage 100% knows A-Train took the files. She said something like “The files couldn’t have just… run out of the department.” Then stares at him and walks away. Her wording it like this plus being the smartest person in the world CANNOT be a coincidence.

[@alansmods1775]

But she still wasn't smart enough to understand how homelander behaviour changes every day or two so eventually Homelander won't listen to her because of his ego.

[@kheo]

I wish you woulda made this video after episode 7 either way great video im gonna checc out more of your content

[@tapset]

I find it hard to believe a-train never saved anyone once. Definitely something the writers just added

[@davidcardozo290]

Yeah, Maeve for example did save people. But they make the rules so.

[@jairusjackson7799]

I really hope they don't kill him, last season they killed Noir just as he became a character we could really care about, it would be kind of repetitive to do the same thing twice. Plus literally everyone and their Grandma has predicted that's how this will go. So I hope the show can subvert our expectations a little here. I'd rather he can become an arms length ally of the Boys.

[@impulse5674]

exactly my thoughts. and i’m also just kinda tired of the trope where the characters always have to die after they redeem themselves. Queen maeve doesn’t really count in my opinion because she was never really a bad person to begin with

[@CoOlKyUbI96]

@@impulse5674I respectfully disagree. Just because Queen Maeve had depth and nuance, I don’t think it means she wasn’t a bad person. She was. It is definitely a good sign whenever a morally bad character is given development and variety. I always prefer that over a character being morally bad just for the sake of it. But at the end of the day the character is still morally bad.

[@WolfFiddlerguy6285]

His slow and steady redemption is kinda ironic for a guy who runs fast xD

[@hnaw1360]

I adored A-Train from the start and I knew he was gonna be redeemed ngl. Favourite character.