Israel and Palestine Compared

[@misterbean4059]

It’s kinda scary how Mr.Beat made this video EXACTLY one year before Hamas attacked

[@iammrbeat]

😳

[@bachelorgamer8001]

Hamas attack 😅 what about the many years they attacked Palestine

[@MERKMOBB710]

Isreal wants peace, You have been disillusioned, Don't buy into propaganda.@@bachelorgamer8001

[@rimfire8217]

@@bachelorgamer8001 Hamas ≠ Palestine

[@areafurrynone1913]

@@rimfire8217Exactly

[@MattFromWiiSportsResort]

Hats off to the bravery of Mr.Beat for even considering covering this

[@IsaaacWithThreeA]

WTF are you doing here?

[@nintengy64]

I like Wii Sports Resort

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you. I definitely hesitated to make it....for like 4 years lol

[@ariswerdlow1411]

@@iammrbeat everyone gonna be mad at you😂

[@ImGoingSupersonic]

Why?

[@abdelrahmanahmed4118]

As an Egyptian, I would like to thank you for using the historically accurate flags of my country, not everyone can get these details right.

[@lloydgush]

That's a very bola way to call him a huge NEEEEERD!

[@itsytyt5192]

Gg

[@natantitelbaum6061]

Yasser organized the Intifadas before the attacks on Aza (Gaza)

[@SigalDa]

He did good job, not biased And I'm Israeli jew.

[@Hayanomie]

I was happy to see the OG Syrian flag as well 😌

[@InvaderWeezle]

You know a conflict is difficult when you have to go through basically the entirety of world history just to explain the backstory

[@dan-us6nk]

Two nations wanting the same land. It's not special. The only reason that this seems that way is because of political interests around the conflict, and because it's not resolved in an era where most of these conflicts are history. Take Alsace-Lorraine for example. A region in Germany/France. The locals just want to live in peace, wherever they are granted rights and living standards, they are half German and half French anyways! (as far as I know, bare with me for the example). But France and Germany are not at war or conflict so nobody talks about the two nations both wanting the Alsace-Lorraine. France has it now. A German wants to go there - He can because of the EU passport/citizenship, the French and Germans stopped fighting and now this land is accessible for both nations, why not? Could Arabs and Hebrews just share the holy land? Absolutely yes. Will they? as long as hatred is taught, no. I listened to a person who made a documentary about her friends who lived surrounding Gaza. Those people said there could be life together with Palestinians, they said if they were doctors they would voluntarily cure Gaza citizens for nothing in exchange but the resolving of the conflict. They were murdered on October 7th, non-combatants. It's about education. Two children want the same sandbox, they could share or they could fight and no one can have fun in it - but we grow up and learn to share. It's really that simple.

[@bowel_movement]

​@@dan-us6nkwow, thank you for these beautiful words. They really moved me. Even though I don't have any connection to these lands, the conflict has felt very close to my heart. To see people fighting over something they could so easy share in peace if only they just did so. To me it feels like this conflict will never end until one side eradicates the other, which is such a gruesome and grim vision of the future. I want all these people to live. I want them to just. stop. fighting. Revenge is such an ugly thing, it just feeds on itself in a never ending cycle.

[@Goobiesnoop]

It isn't as simple as two nations wanting the same land, it is the complexity of a nation being given to another people right after the second world war; a people who had not been involved in the persecuation of the Jews being forced to give up their land to make a safe haven for the Jews of Europe. One major problem, that should be obvious by now: You don't make friends by stealing another persons stuff. And now with 75+ years of nonstop occupation and apartheid being brought upon the palestianians, resistance towards oppression was inveitable. This is not to justify any acts committed, it is to state the obvious that now with the Gaza genocide happening, another act of genocide is being brought upon the people of the West Bank, where bedouins get killed and villages set ablaze. So is it a case of two nations wanting the same land or a case of European neo-colonialism once again screwing up another region of the world like it did to South Africa? @@dan-us6nk

[@SineN0mine3]

​@@dan-us6nki don't disagree, but the fact that the two sides have been perpetually fighting non-stop for such an ungodly amount of time is notable, if not particularly special.

[@thegenzmindset7127]

Your all a little bit wrong this conflict isn’t “difficult” or complicated. And it’s not as simple as a fight for holy land. This is quite literally a fight for cultural and ethnic survival between Muslim and Christian Palestinians against a occupational apartheid fascist regime. Under the guise of “democracy and secularism”. 🤦‍♂️

[@fishyfishyfish0]

19:51 "Today, things often are deceptively peaceful in Israel and Palestine." yeah, that aged REAL fast...

[@thegenzmindset7127]

It was never peaceful, Palestinians were dying every single damn day getting arrest every damn day for no reason before October 7th

[@ooo5514]

"deceptively"

[@ImNotARealDoctorYouDumbass]

Ironically, this video came out on Oct 7th 2022. Exactly one year before the war began.

[@vem9583]

Aged well you mean?

[@peter19426]

This was uploaded on oct 7 2022 too

[@jodishapiro9257]

You know you did something right when both Israelis and Palestinians are saying you did a good job on this video.

[@TheGamingAlong]

@@x.noasun He did mention that due to israeli military capability, a lot of palestinian died. But didn't go into detail, probably to not offend his collab partner lol

[@nevoh4940]

Yup, am from israel, I think he did an amazing job. no hate is spread and im happy

[@RuskiyStandardRaw]

War is supposed to be fair? Was it fair in 1929 Hebron? Ridiculous argument.

[@user-0-0-]

@@x.noasun 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸

[@user-0-0-]

@@nevoh4940 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸

[@iammrbeat]

Which two places should I compare for this series next? Thanks to Harry’s for sponsoring! Redeem a Harry’s Trial Set for just $3 when you go to harrys.com/MrBeat

[@oledz_yt9503]

2nd time asking Nigeria and Cameroon

[@seandawson5899]

I think we should do something a little lighter after this video. Maybe Germany and Poland.

[@gunna88679]

New York and California

[@floridaandpuertoricomappin9893]

Do Algeria and Libya Compared 🇩🇿 🇱🇾

[@facund8]

Argentina and Chile

[@mjohn5921]

"Once you get out of Tel Aviv it gets much cheaper in israel" Let's put that into perspective Mr. Beat. The prices in a small town in the north are equivalent to prices in London for example. It's just that Tel Aviv is sooo ridiculously expensive that this difference in prices (going down to London level expensive) is felt.

[@dreamspheree]

israel is expensive as singapour and swiss. actually young families are emmegrating out of the country due to expensive life. rent\house prices are rediculus all over israel and supermarket prices a super rediculus. 5-7$ for normal bread... macdonald meal is 16-25$ !!!!

[@mjohn5921]

@his-story I did not say tel aviv was a small town in the north. I meant that a small town in the north of israel has the same prices as London. And btw, Tel aviv has 450k population, the metropolitan area has 10X that.(almost 4.5 Million)

[@mjohn5921]

@his-story funny you mention gush dan since even though we all call it gush dan nobody reallllly knows which cities are in it. But yes it's somewhere between the inner and outer ring depending on who you ask. חג שמח :)))

[@condor237]

Israel is pretty cheap in the Negev tho

[@binwoo5864]

Well Israel is expensive well it's because land is small and there's not enough arable land to support a lot of people that's why they import food

[@itsmealex8959]

Finally, an apolitical topic.

[@iammrbeat]

ikr?

[@malldvd]

This is somehow less controversial than the Maryland v.s. Virginia episode.

[@wta1518]

@@malldvd Maryland.

[@jamarleatherbury]

@@malldvd Marylander here

[@mingfanzhang8927]

@@iammrbeat 😂❤

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

5:13 The name Palestine comes from the Philistines - a tribe from the "sea people", probably from Mycenaean Greece who invaded and setteled at the southern coast of Cannan, during the bronze age collapse. The name most likely comes from the etymological root "Invader" in Cannanite languages. The most famous if them all is Goliath, from the story of "David and Goliath". The Greeks begun to refer to the entire area of Cannan after them - Philistia. And the name survived also after the extinction of the Philistines at the 8 century BC when the Assyrian empire conqured it. After one of the Jewish revolts against Rome - as Mr. Beat mentioned, the area was renamed by it's Latinized Greek name - Palestina. (Like almost every other thing the Romans did with Greek culture...)

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks for the additional information!

[@dibsdibs3495]

I mean, philistine is kinda the same as the Hebrew word “Poleshtim” which means invaders. Think I pretty much just said the same thing you did but just checking.

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

​@@dibsdibs3495 You probably mean "Polshim" - means "invaders" No, in Hebrew Palestinians is the same name as in Arabic (but with different suffixes) - "Faleftin". Arabic - Falestiniun Hebrew - Falestinim

[@michaelweiske702]

@@dibsdibs3495 hebrew is a relative of the canaanite languages, so it makes sense the words would be cognates.

[@zacharyhawley1693]

I think you're downplaying how pissed off Rome was at Israel. To the Roman line of thinking shut up and pay your taxes was entirely fair. Then Israelites revolted and put the entire empire at risk. So Rome came down with a vengeance.

[@oof4623]

Me: "Damn. This video was posted prior to the attack on October 7th, 2023, I wonder what day it was uploaded..." *SEES UPLOAD DATE OF OCTOBER 7TH... **_2022_*

[@monsterjamin24-79]

My 18th birthday lol

[@lightofdarkness-xd3xp]

Coincidence, i think not😂

[@professorrogue3473]

He knows smth we don't

[@Messneyalan]

@@oof4623 i literally just noticed that and scrolled down to see if anyone else did too

[@lostinthought5621]

Excellent analysis overall. One point to add was the effects of 1973 Yom Kippur War with Syria and Egypt. Israel was caught flat-footed, lost territory early in the war, and suffered heavy casualties. And although Israel managed to win the war, Egypt gained the necessary leverage to bargain for the return of the Sinai peninsula during the 1978 Camp David Accords.

[@ingGS]

Israel was caught “flat-footed” because the U.S. and Britain told them NOT to attack, they knew the war was coming, the King of Jordan warned Golda Meier, but she could not do anything otherwise they would lose western support. Also, Egypt did not get any bargaining rights, the U.S. pressured Israel to give back Sinai in exchange for peace, Israel had clear plans to build urban settlements in the Sinai with as much as 200.000 people, but the idea of peace with arabs and that extending to other countries was a better deal to Israel.

[@JoshuaFinancialPL]

actually no. Israel wanted to give back Sinai and Gaza for peace with Egypt and Egypt refused to take back Gaza and the people there. Gaza still has a southern border with Egypt, which is closed by massive Egyptian fortifications and military. beyond that border is uninhabited desert - but Egypt wont open their border to gazans even to allow a refugee exodus from the war with Hamas. Wonder why.

[@stenotype]

There was a lot of misinformation here, but at least nothing was an objective lie.

[@jaimac81]

@@JoshuaFinancialPLegypt not obligated to take them ppl in when they have land its just being stolen and bombed to damnation

[@shonlyskov3497]

In the yom kipur war while isreal was caught off guard and did suffer "heavy" by isreal standards casualties, the arab countries suffered almost 4 time more and egypt lost the sinai peninsula and isreal crossed the suez twords the end of the war with one division ill give u that

[@danielginsberg8181]

Mr. Beat was a history teacher at the middle school i attended. Pleasantly surprised he found his way to my recommended!

[@fun_ghoul]

I bet he really touched the kids in his class...

[@happydillpickle]

That's awesome!

[@ThePikminCaptain]

Damn your lucky

[@danielginsberg8181]

@@ThePikminCaptain unfortunately though I never had him myself, my older brother did and I heard nothing but good things!

[@ThePikminCaptain]

@@danielginsberg8181 oh

[@robo567]

of course this video gets recommended to me now of all times

[@lilc-bas1887]

Exactly

[@eyallevin6302]

Before it was 18 and over only

[@vansdan.]

i just discovered mr beat so naturally I'm here now. pretty good vid

[@SiVlog1989]

Hats off to you Matt, it takes a brave KZbinr to talk about the dispute between Israel and Palestine. Paul, who runs the Channel Geography Now, prefixed his video on it by saying, "no matter what I say, there's every chance I'll make at least someone mad," I think as ever, you did a great job with it :)

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks man! Well I certainly tried as well. Yes, people will be mad. Gotta love those humans.

[@Alex-tx2dh]

Yeah I was curious how other KZbinrs may have influenced this video. Like showing what can be said and stick around on this platform. I'm sure some have had videos taken down and then the owner goes to Reddit or wherever to discuss their censorship. I doubt Katie Halper had much influence on this particular video but I've heard her video is quite in depth regarding the control and actions of the Israeli Gov. I think I'll go watch every video sometime just to get the kind of "PC" story drilled in my head.

[@revinhatol]

HEY! Which Matt are you referring to? Matt Baker of UsefulCharts or Mr. Beat?

[@aviateedits]

Is his name Matt Beat

[@gugugaga6375]

its not a brave thing to shill for israel. its called obeisance.

[@sparksk8er]

been on this topic for around over a decade now. one thing people seem to never separate, what Hamas does, does not mean the IDF and bibi can punish civilians, its called collective punishment and thats a war crime

[@lofemix]

Well how do you expect Israel to get back its Hostages if it can't go into Gaza?? Jews native to Israel were massacred in Hebron before Israel was even independent, Palestine never wanted peace.

[@stephendaley266]

@@lofemix When do Palestinians get back the 10,000 hostages being held by Israel?

[@DylanPattyn]

Watching this a year later just to see how its aged... Love you Matt

[@arib2426]

Excellent video, Mr. Beat; Just a small correction: Israel doesn't "militarily" occupy the Golan, it just occupies it. A military occupation would be like in the West Bank, where military law is set in place, rather than civil law. This difference is because, unlike the West Bank, Israel annexed the Golan. This annexation wasn't recognized at all by other countries, however because of the annexation, citizenship was given and civil law takes place there like with the rest of israel

[@harveybarvey5080]

That's because Israel expelled all the non-Jewish civilians in the Golan Heights. Murdered them, expelled them, eradicated them. Then Israel built Jewish only settlements in Golan Heights.

[@orrling]

These are petty nuances. Israel's presence in both the Golan and the West Bank is EQUALLY illegal

[@danielgrossman5243]

The United States did recently recognize the Golan Heights as part of Israel. Other countries have not.

[@harveybarvey5080]

@@danielgrossman5243 Obviously other countries have not recognised Golan Heights as part of Israel because they are all anti-Semitic! Israel, a fiefdom of sheer arrogance, theft, mischief, deception, hoodwinking, treacherous, greedy, unscrupulous, sneaky, trickery, haughtiness.

[@Shellybelly778]

There were way more errors in this video than that. It is very one sided favoring the Palistinians.

[@SamAronow]

Hey, Mr. Beat; thanks for reaching out to Beacebrocess and me for input on this video and for using some of my footage. I'm really happy with how this turned out and I'm glad to have met Beacebrocess in the process.

[@beacebrocess]

You too buddy 👍

[@iammrbeat]

Thanks for the help writing the script and the footage! Sorry I didn't use as much of the footage you sent me, but I will save it for that Tel Aviv-Jerusalem video I make in four years! :)

[@sigmaballsnetwork]

3 KZbinrs I watch in the same thread???? All of you are my beloved, and Mr. Beat, you got balls for doing this

[@ShnoogleMan]

Beace AND Sam Aronow? I remember suggesting this collab along with a few others a while ago. You’re two of my faves and I really hope you keep collaborating in the future.

[@peterwirth5662]

These three guys together?!... no way! Today is a good day.

[@geraldmeehan8942]

I am from Indiana & my father was of Irish ancestry. I couldn't help but notice that when you combine Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland they have almost exactly the same area and population as Indiana. Because of this a video comparing them would be interesting

[@snag41]

why dont u make it?

[@jasonq7504]

12:34 You left out one crucial detail. The Arabs rejected this division of land and revolted because that division left a lot of Arabs on the wrong side of that map, automatically losing their homes to Jewish settlers.

[@boygenius538_8]

And the fact the UN puppet of the west had no right to place jurisdiction on foreign lands.

[@orrling]

haha cutie they tragically objected even the theoretical idea of ANY partition of the area - it's facts

[@jasonq7504]

@@orrling this isn't theory. It happened. Their land was stolen.

[@orrling]

You're a bigot Not nice to see! People who deny reality & deny other nations' right to exist are responsible for the global violence we've seen in the past decades against Westerners including Jews all for their ethnic connection to the State of Israel

[@USA_UNITED1776]

No they rejected it because they refused to recognize israel as a state. The arab league never stated anything about houses on wrong sides of borders.

[@BradyPostma]

24:48 - Those dots around the Hebrew letters are only used by teachers and early students of the language to help them know how to pronounce words. People fluent in Hebrew typically don't use them.

[@renilol705]

It's also used in religious texts

[@TheRepublicOfJohn]

FYI They're called niqqud and are used for when vowels cannot or should not be implied or assumed, whether by novice readers/speakers or for when there is a religious need for precise pronunciation, such as certain blessings, Torah portions, etc. I'm not Jewish and do not speak Hebrew or Yiddish so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

[@EHS18]

@@TheRepublicOfJohn The Torah doesn't contain any vowels, however there are special vowels for the Torah unlike normal Hebrew text. These special vowels are specifically for understanding how to sing the Torah and are pretty complicated.

[@alimbis]

@@renilol705not in Torah

[@RS-uh7rz]

Noting that Israel and Palestine are both democracies misses an enormous difference in their political cultures. Universität Würzburg (Germany) ranks 176 nations by quality of democracy. In this ranking, Israel is 35, the US is 36, the West Bank is 166, and Gaza is 168.

[@nuklearboysymbiote]

Hard to afford democracy when war and death are not only a worry but an everyday threat.

[@philo9046]

Do you realise that the standards of western institutions are biased? like when they say US is a democracy thats mean the neglect all undemocratic practices like gerry mandering, the senate and electoral college and the two Party dictatorship. with israel they neglect the aparthide .

[@CyberMartian890]

Ye I thought that as soon as I heard it

[@abcxyz8787]

I wouldn't call Palestine a democracy at all actually. In Gaza rules the very undemocratic Hamas and in the west bank Mahmood Abbas, the ruler, refuses to have elections for years. How long since they had elections there? 15?

[@Jordan-air]

Finally someone objective.

[@nathanielmartins5930]

Just a little point on 28:20 Hamas does not recognise Israel as a legitimate state since neither does Israel recognise Hamas as the legitimate governing entity of Gaza. but as far back as 2010, the leader of the political wing of Hamas has stated in a couple of interviews that "Although our primary means of achieving our goal [Establishing a unified state of Palestine with the borders of the 1947 partition plan with themselves as a legitimate political party] are through violent resistence, should Israel choose to settle the matter diplomatically, we do see recognising their legitimicy as a state [Borders being those of the 1947 partition plan] as an reasonable deal"

[@joshuashaw2923]

Israel has repeatedly offered peace though

[@nathanielmartins5930]

@@joshuashaw2923 There two two Israeli Prime Ministers who actually stood for peace. The second ever PM who didn't have much of a chance to promote peace due to his short term in office, and Yitzhak Rabin who pursued peace til his last breath, but he was assassinated by Zionist extremists who proclaimed that they killed him for "Furthering the Prospects of a Palestinian state" Every other Israeli PM since the inception of Hamas has bragged about sabotaging every peace accords between Israel and Palestine.

[@alimbis]

@@joshuashaw2923palestine has. israel proposes the peace

[@Leaked1ndex]

​@@joshuashaw2923no they don't, the thing they fear the most is a 2 state solution, if you can't understand that, then you don't understand zionism and its end goals (hint after they finish with palestine they are still going to want more land)

[@USA_UNITED1776]

@@Leaked1ndex they have though.

[@jigsawproductions6171]

Im not even kidding, I watch Mr. Beat’s videos for entertainment whilst learning something at the same time. Mr Beat is great at making learning fun. Great personality. Thanks for the content Mr. Beat! (Edit: fixed grammar)

[@iammrbeat]

Aw thank you!

[@sassychip26]

Hes very underrated too.

[@madcatter1]

@@iammrbeat Hey Mr. Beat nice video, however while you mention that ever since the Romans called Israel, "Palestine", it does not mean that the group who refer to themselves today as palestinians, were in control of the land simply due to the name given by the Romans. In fact when the Romans called the land of Israel, "Palestine"(which was based on the Aegean Greeks"Phillstines"), Islam was not even around until 7 centuries later! The fact that you say all those palestinians before 1948 lived in Israel and grouped together to fight Israel, gives the impression that it was an Arab Palestinian land before, which it never was. There was never a group of Arabs known as the palestinians (of today), they were simply Arabs from the surrounding countries who lived there aside for the Muslim occupiers of the land such as the Turks etc. Also Jews lived in Israel throughout the years as well, of course it was a minority because they were getting killed all over the world including in Israel by the occupying nations. The land was called Palestine so anyone who lived there before 1948 was known as palestinian but it was not an identity of a nation, it was simply a technicality which means Jews were also called palestinians due to living in the land under that name. Palestinians as we know today formed in 1967 by Arafat who had the idea to adopt the false name of the land given by the Romans which stuck until 1948 to give the impression that it was always their land. You never told us when the "palestinians'' declared independence of the land and who their rulers were, because it never happened. If anything it was a Jewish land for thousands of years, and then reclaimed in 1948 through war. So by all accounts its a Jewish land. Just because their were many occupiers of the land doesnt mean it changed anything, those occupiers never declared it as their land they already had a land of their own. Name one Arab/Palestinian king who had sovereignty over a land called Palestine. Can You? P.S. Also when Babylon and Rome invaded, Jews didnt willingly leave at all, they fought till the death and those who left were forced to leave, captured and taken into Exile. If you look at Jewish prayers from those times (which Jews still have in the existing prayer books), all the prayers were about returning to Jerusalem and the Rebuilding of the Temple to serve G-D. They wanted to return to Israel but could not.

[@HaDe_Twins]

@@madcatter1 bro israel isn't real. You can make stuff up but nobody will believe you😂

[@adamtrott78]

@@madcatter1 Palestine was just as legitimate as a country as every other Arab country that was born after the death of the Ottoman Empire. None of the Arab states had a national identity. I’m not anti Israel, but palestine isn’t a special case for having very little historical claim and national Identity in the region

[@RemnantCult]

While it is a very controversial comparison, it's an important one to view. Thanks, Beat.

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you

[@sloshed-rat]

Cowing down to pressure is not what a historian does. If someone is offended by facts, it says more about them than it does the commentator.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@sloshed-rat Because everything you like is "facts", and anyone who disagrees is merely "offended"... 🚽

[@sloshed-rat]

@@fun_ghoul Well, you DO sound pretty offended, my guy.

[@fun_ghoul]

@@sloshed-rat Duh-bling down on your ignorance, I see. You might be embarrassed if you were actually Jewish...

[@omar_rayyan]

That's amazing, I'm Palestinian and this video is surprisingly, completely unbiased and says the true story as it is. I wish everyone could just live in peace.

[@JohnTheStun]

Unbiased, maybe. But not entirely factual. Although most of it was great indeed.

[@dar_thvader_dude]

Me too🤞🤞

[@ziv8978]

Im israeli jewish and hoping for peace

[@gamesgisrael1079]

u are just an arab not Nrinan

[@user-0-0-]

@@ziv8978 🇵🇸 LONG LIVE PALESTINE 🇵🇸

[@cahiser]

I hope people see this now after the current conflict. Thank you for sharing the objective history of the land and involving both a Palestinian American and an Israeli in your editing process. Well done.

[@finisterre2415]

Oh boy, this is going to be a wholesome, friendly, intelligent comments section full of wonderful ideas and opinions.

[@fun_ghoul]

No matter how many words you clowns put in these throwaway comments, you're just another Zayonest goof saying NOTHING.

[@noona7701]

That didn’t age well…

[@redrox3312]

⁠@@noona7701 “Uhh actually he was being sarcastic 🤓”

[@ThomasLWoolsey]

I saw the title and thought “Don’t Mr. Beat, you still have so much to live for!”

[@beacebrocess]

Thanks for the collab!!!!

[@iammrbeat]

It was an honor to collaborate with you. I learn a lot from watching your videos!

[@ninachand2075]

I just saw your channel! I have a 6 year old who's obsessed with geography and a 12 year old who loves drawing , your channel is fantastic! Just subscribed!

[@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ]

💪🇮🇱

[@Ea613-w5o]

@@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ🇺🇸🤝🇮🇱

[@matthewamato625]

Well, I think we know why we’re all here

[@joshuashaw2923]

One significant thing I would argue should be added is that after Hamas’ “democratic” election, they threw their political opposition off rooftops and maintained power since, no longer having any elections.

[@Sovnarkom]

The greeks called it Palestine because the Peleset (one of the "sea peoples") settled there during the Bronze age collapse. There have been Palestinians long before the Roman provincial naming).

[@Hayanomie]

Amazing how much you were able to cover! I really appreciate when KZbinrs with a large audience are willing to speak about the region. Also impressive that Harry's is willing to sponsor. Respect. A few things: 1. 3:50 Jews were enslaved by Babylon they didn't just flee. I believe the number is at least ten thousand. Cyrus freed them and allowed them to return, not just encouraged. 2. 10:07 Fun fact: Zionists were not sure at first whether they would settle in Palestine. Among other countries they considered Uganda and Japan. Imagine an alternate universe where it is called the "Japanese -Israel" conflict. 3. 16:40 Syria actually signed a ceasefire agreement in 1974 and it's been the longest lasting ceasefire agreement between Israel and any other Arab state. Syrians often accuse Hafez of selling us out in the six-day war as everyone from IDF, IAF, USA, and Syrian army witnesses claim the surrender of Golan was premature. There is also an article about Hafez receiving $100 million for the land.

[@mustafaali3333-q1m]

Assad is winning

[@mustafaali3333-q1m]

Erdogan will normalise with Assad

[@Hayanomie]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agreement_on_Disengagement_between_Israel_and_Syria

[@enoch9468]

About 2, you're wrong in the terminology. There were such ideas, yes, but they weren't coming from zionist (the word Zion is another name for the land of Israel), but by people who called by themselves Territorialist. Anyway, they were a minor movement and faded after a few decades. Their biggest achivement was the autonomous jewish region in the USSR, which was also kinda made possible by the Bund and as a reaction to USSR jews being mostly zionist. About 3, Syria and Israel did fight during the lebanese conflict in a few battles, also Israel pretty regularly bombs Iran and Hizballah places of intrest in Syria, not to mention the destruction of the syrian nuclear reactor. There hasn't been a total war, yeah, but it's a very tense ceasefire.

[@Hayanomie]

@@enoch9468 2. In the early 20th century Cyprus and El Arish on the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt and its environs were proposed as a site for Jewish settlement by Herzl. 3. The ceasefire is specifically over the Golan heights and is specifically cited by Israeli leaders like Netanyahu as reason for why Assad is preferable to rebels.

[@Nazinsky]

You have helped me realize I want to pursue a History degree, and you're my biggest inspiration. Recently started college. Thank you, Mister Beat, for all you've done.

[@madelinevlogs5898]

Yay! I’m on my second year of a history degree and it’s amazibg

[@fun_ghoul]

@@madelinevlogs5898 Hmph. You like lying for a living? You'll get paid bupkis, unless you really come up with some p**kies like a Conquest, Solzhenitsyn or Kotkin...

[@Nazinsky]

@@thotslayer9914 League of Legends! I don't actually play the game, I just thought the character looked cool. I just looked up fox from LOL, haha. Thanks!

[@Nazinsky]

@@madelinevlogs5898 I'm glad you're enjoying it!

[@Nazinsky]

@@thotslayer9914 I do, why?

[@saratonnan]

Great synopsis of the history in that area. I've often wondered about the specifics as to how it got to where they are today. It's so jam-packed with information that I may have to watch a few more times. Keep up the great work! 👍

[@iammrbeat]

I appreciate the kind words, Susan!

[@EarlHayward]

@@iammrbeat Great summary... I forgot the details, but didn't the Mongols make it that far west during the 13th or 14th century? Basically, right up to the Red Sea... Not that they were very friendly when establishing their empire... But thought that their reach went that far right around the time when they were able to establish one of the largest contiguous empires; shortly before the Ming Dynasty came to power and they were under attack from multiple directions. Speaking of which, not sure if you venture into the religious topics... But, was always curious as to the extent of Confucianism, if any, with the dominate monotheistic religions as I noticed some common stories when I was studying in China - but never pursued the matter.

[@gugugaga6375]

All approved by the ADL

[@AncientAmericas]

Excellent job on a very sensitive and important topic!

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you! It's relieving to get these nice comments thus far. :)

[@EL-oj6uq]

Nah he's just a westener that had no idea about the conflict reading a bit and saying very simplistic things, when he said Israel takes tax revenue from palestine for example, he said in a joking manner that israel takes the revenue because of "attackers" and forgets to mention palestine's government sponsored various killings of israeli civillians including the famous munich slaughter of Israel's olympic team.

[@duskendawne2239]

Woah hi, I just watched your new video about the Toltecs lol

[@gugugaga6375]

when i read this sort of comments i always remember what Burke wrote about flattery.

[@coolcat503]

bro i never comment but wtf why is mr beat actually built. bro gotta beautiful biceps my god. what a goat

[@saulgoodmanKAZAKH]

He most definitely has a sleeper build

[@yonboi6644]

27:52 Fatah is still quite conservative. I think it'd be better to say they're more left leaning relative to Hamas, but overall they're still a conservative government. Also, it's important to mention Hamas isn't just more right-leaning, it's a right wing extremist organization. There's a difference between being more conservative, and being a fascist government

[@124-Liam]

🇮🇱

[@سالم-ن1ر]

​@@124-Liam 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@KenanErol]

Ottoman Empire Turkish era was the most peaceful time for those lands comparing any other timelines. All major religions were able to live in an harmony. I wish we have that peace back in 21st century...

[@NoBody-lj5xh]

The Turks accepted no one. They tolerated all, so long as they lived under tyranny, and were willing to pay special taxes if they were non-Turk, which sometimes included their very children. The Ottomans were dope, but let's not get too excited here.

[@thegenzmindset7127]

@KenanErol I wouldn’t say it was the most peaceful ottomans, it was still good. But I think whenever it was under Saladin or Caliph Umar is when it was most peaceful.

[@TizBaz5]

When the holy land was an undeveloped, swampy middle-of-nowhere with a tiny population.

[@sebastianlaplume461]

@Svenskanorden1that’s incorrect. They sided with the British because the young Turk revolution which over through the sultan and made more of a mess out of the empire, which had been in decline. The British manipulated, lied, and pressured for the people to rise up, then stabbed them in the back. Due to Britain’s heavy racist motivation to get rid of the Jewish refugees after WWII, they saw the perfect opportunity to “cleanse themselves” of the “Jewish problem” and make life better for the Jews. European Zionism was founded in antisemitism and racism, and it’s still a core of the belief today. Which explains why Israel is so content with apartheid systems and oppression.

[@petitthom2886]

The eyes added to the flags at 0:19 make me think to the videos of the French youtuber « Télécrayon » ! He mostly covers geographic topics and does a very qualitative job.

[@iammrbeat]

I will check the channel out!

[@mavericknunez5962]

Plot twist: didn't end well

[@InochiScarlet]

As a first generation Palestinian immigrant I’m super happy you made a video on this, it was super well researched and informative and hopefully this will be able to show more than just the surface about the history and disparity in the region. Thanks Mr. Beat!🧡

[@anonymoususer8895]

Get out! We Americans don’t want you here! Go back to Israel! Terrorist go home!

[@Proud_Troll]

Ya probably should've agreed to the two state solution.

[@InochiScarlet]

@@Proud_Troll oh how I wish it could have been solved peacefully and I didn’t have to watch my people die, Hamas signed away the lives of so many innocent Palestinians when it attacked, I’m just praying this ends soon

[@IJustNukedMcDonalds]

@@InochiScarlet stay safe bro

[@InochiScarlet]

@@IJustNukedMcDonalds I appreciate the concern but I live in the states rn thankfully

[@MikeApollo1]

Don't worry guys, when I get my Christmas money I will buy Israel and Palestine and make the place more cooler and epic.

[@iammrbeat]

It's that easy

[@thecreepers3478]

POV: you're looking for toxic comments

[@slav1858]

FR

[@DJK-cq2uy]

Pffft hmmmph

[@justinadams2675]

Overall a really solid and informative analysis and history of both places. The only small critique I would make is that you said that overall Israel tends to be “much more free and fair,” and while by no means is Palestine’s democracy perfect or extremely democratic, it is important to give perspective that there is much systemic and fundamental legislature in place in Israel which openly and explicitly advocates for segregation and discrimination of people based on nationality. For example, your nationality is determined by your ethnicity and it cannot be changed or challenged. Many of the rights you are accorded in Israel stem from your nationality, not your citizenship. Therefore, though the democracy of Israel may be more ostensibly free and fair, it is important to remember that there is fundamental systemic discrimination in even the un-occupied (military) sectors and regions of Israel. Just wanted to point this out to highlight a potentially significant piece of information about Israel compared to Palestine.

[@ouri1212]

for anyone reading this comment, please know that absolutely none of that is true.. I actually had a different problem with the video, it happens to be with the same sentence as you pointed out.. Even though the democracy in Israel isn't flawless it is miles ahead of any of it's neighboring states and it is definitely lightyears away from the Palestinian democracy... The sentence you wrote "while by no means is Palestine’s democracy perfect or extremely democratic" is hilarious really, they don't even hold elections. They are simply not a democracy and never have been.

[@TizBaz5]

A fifth to a quarter of Israeli citizens are Arabs. They have full rights as citizens. The only differences: Jews have the right of return while Arabs do not, as letting every single person who claims to be a fifth-generation Palestinian "refugee" claim citizenship would cause obvious problems. If you don't know what I mean, Israel would not exist anymore. Also, Arab Israelis are exempt from the draft.

[@justinadams2675]

@@ouri1212 lol genocide defender

[@justinadams2675]

@@TizBaz5 lol this guy is defending apartheid

[@sebastianlaplume461]

@@ouri1212 @TizBaz5 Israel has the modern equivalent of Jim Crowe laws… racism, segregation, and racial stratification are core tenants of the Zionist movement. Non Jewish Israeli citizens are established as second class citizens under law. The right of return is not the only thing Arabs are denied. Making the claim that “5th generation citizens” coming back to Palestine would be an issue is nonsensical, most of them are the children (2nd gen) and grandchildren (3rd gen) of the victims of nakba… there are Israelis living in the houses their living relatives built… Compare that to the right of return to Jews who can’t trace their lineage to region for 2000+ years. Millions have been granted citizenships with no verification of lineage but that’s not an issue because it reinforces the colonization, right?? If the living natives, and immediate descendants of them, return to the region, as you said, the colony state of Israel literally wouldn’t exist, it would be a united Palestine again where the Zionist don’t enjoy a privileged status anymore and instead are made equal. I really don’t see the comparison here.

[@mahderahman278]

I've been waiting for this all day I am actually from the country of Palestine finally someone talks about my country which is kind of rare because not many people want to get into controversial topics but hey I'm glad someone's talking about my country

[@iammrbeat]

Nice to meet you and thanks for being here

[@stephencohen575]

Its a shame you waited so long, only for him to get it completely WRONG......But that's what happens when you don't research something properly and only go with what is "Politically" acceptable.

[@mahderahman278]

Okay you may get certain thing wrong but at least he had tried once again he mainly talks about history and comparing countries not politics but at least it's interesting that he had a lot of willpower just to make this video

[@mahderahman278]

We border Israel Egypt Jordan, he was the first leader Yasser Arafat anything else and our current president is Mohammad Abbas

[@blvckdrako4334]

Didn't you watch the video... palestine was a land where a diverse group of people (muslim christian and jews) lived peacefully since the ottoman empire. The legitimacy of the people living there and the culture isn't questionable. Israel was founded until much later in 1948 but the world doesn't question it, so why question the legitimacy of Palestine who was "officially" founded around the same time?

[@bigdog638]

Appreciate you covering this hope people can keep it civil in the comments

[@iammrbeat]

Me too!

[@AriOrSomething]

I'm just not gonna go very far into the comments

[@gugugaga6375]

@@AriOrSomething god forbid there should be something critical of mr beat and how he makes 'unbiased' videos

[@FIamboyance]

@@gugugaga6375are you implying that Mr. Beat makes biased videos? Because yes, anything created by man is inherently biased in one way or another. However, I do believe that this video is about as unbiased as it gets on such a controversial topic like this one.

[@ch162]

Regarding Balfour Declaration, the area that was know as Palestine, included today's Jordan as well, that was also promised to the Jews. Your map was wrong. Borders of the land of Palestine as you describe them only came after Transjordan was broken off

[@jacobdrj101]

I noticed that too. That and the blockade of Gaza being a joint one with Egypt, as well as Egypt being in control of Gaza before 67, was another map related set of issues. Still, overall, fairly good overview.

[@dhammawiwekantara]

You don t think so

[@stephenchappell7512]

Transjordan was created out of the short-lived Hashemite Arab Kingdom of Syria south of the Sykes/Picot line

[@yaitz3313]

17:34 The withholding of tax revenues was not simply as compensation, it was specifically because of the PA's Martyrs Fund. The Martyr's Fund is a program run by the PA in which money is given to Palestinians who are killed or imprisoned fighting Israel. Israel argues that, as the majority of those who receive funding through this program died or were imprisoned due to making terror attacks on civilians, this is a "pay-for-slay" policy (the actual wording used), and so has withheld an amount of money equivalent to what the PA spends on the Martyr's Fund.

[@kreeeeee]

cant even begin to imagine what this comment section is gonna look like in a few hours💀

[@iammrbeat]

So far, it's not that bad

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

28:36 That is actually the logo of the Pan-Arab nationalist party called Balad. The Israeli Islamist party called Ra'am and there are also two more Arab parties in the parliament.

[@iammrbeat]

Thank you!

[@calitaliarepublic6753]

29:37 This is absolutely not true, and you prove it earlier in this video. The vast majority of Israeli Jews serve for several years in the Israel Defense Forces, support conscription, believe the IDF is the people's army, and approve of how it handles the Gaza Strip. This means they are directly involved in the ongoing conflict with Palestine.

[@WalkerLarson497]

He’s getting at, that most people are good people, and don’t want to shoot at each other.

[@calitaliarepublic6753]

@@WalkerLarson497 Well, he’s wrong. Israelis are bloodthirsty monsters who kill Palestinians children without hesitation.

[@noname-hf9ty]

Israelis' opinions of the IDF seems to act on a pendulum in fairness, really depends on what's going on at the time (this is the case with alot of militaries in fairness)

[@FireCat34]

There one country to blame for being Israel and Palestine conflict it is the UK.

[@ASocialistTransGirl]

Incorrect. It is in reality: The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland vested in the bicameral Power of the The High and Mighty Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and Commons, in Parliament assembled; through the chambers of The Honourable the Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled, and The Right Honourable the Lords Spiritual and Temporal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled, in the name of Her Magesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith.

[@stephenchappell7512]

Why?

[@FireCat34]

@@stephenchappell7512 history shows roots of the conflict for Israel and Palestine started under British rule over region if you reads both sides history books on the conflict it seems only thing they degree on when it started under British rule also countries were under British empire do have tons of Issues have their roots under British rule don't help local leaders these countries and foreign governments often do take advantage these Issues it doesn't change fact these countries Issues do have roots in the policy when British rule over these countries

[@מ.מ-ה9ד]

The most dedicated KZbinr to the sponsor I've ever seen. (I've also watched your explanation about sponsorship in EmperorTigerStar's channel)

[@iammrbeat]

lol well ya know, I do like Harry's

[@deniedgosling3282]

How you gonna casually ignore the fact that the reason palistinian hospitals are low on supplies is because of isreali blockades

[@Jeffrey-hu2gb]

He mention the Israeli blockade 19:40 and the hospitals at 26:25

[@deniedgosling3282]

​@Jeffrey-hu2gb no but he says that the healthcare is worse. But dosnt say it's due to isreali blockades. He sould have said due to isreal blocking aid healthcare is worse

[@Jeffrey-hu2gb]

@@deniedgosling3282 well he said due to lack of resources And if we’re talking about Gaza then the Israeli blockade is responsible for the lack of resources since that’s the whole point of a blockade

[@MezmerKaiser725]

12:58 It's worthy to note that Irgun and Haganah, two groups that Albert Einstein compared to the Nazi forces he had just escaped from, were integrated in 1948 to become the IDF and use the same violent tactics today. (And these same hogs train with many American police departments 😳)

[@non-binarybabe1952]

Thank you! Important to mention

[@GeoJesser]

This has to be the most objective overview of the region and conflict I have ever seen. Kudos to you for managing to walk that line. There is definitely no easy answer, but it's important to put events and history into perspective and humanize all sides, which you've done very well. Thank you!

[@gugugaga6375]

mr beatr is far from objective where it comes to videos about jews/israel.

[@marcosfarodrigues]

SAM ARONOW is my best youtube source for jewish history, great guy !!! 😀😀

[@iammrbeat]

He definitely is

[@deadblue324]

I think you did an amazing job making a more neutral and good balanced video, thank you for talking about something that is rarely covered in good depth

[@degracia1098]

There isno palestine idiot

[@bly2790]

I think it’s kind of dishonest not providing that the Palestinians owned 90% of the land before the UN partition plan was announced, which suggested that the Palestinians just give up 50%of their land. 70% of the land that belonged to the Palestinians was taken away.

[@bly2790]

Sorry that probably sounded rude, it just sounded like you were presenting the UN partition plan as more of a compromise than the UN stealing land

[@Me-wx1mt]

yeah

[@kostas0352]

Why should we care about muslims again?

[@rowbo_7749]

⁠@@kostas0352why should we care about anyone again?

[@kostas0352]

​@@rowbo_7749Because a jewish controlled Israel can be a stronghold in the region for europe and the USA for controlling the eastern Mediterranean, also all the jews went there so we don't need to have jewish minorities in europe

[@Pantsinabucket]

5:22 you made a pretty serious error here in dating the origin of the word Palestine. It is much older than the Greeks and dates back roughly to the time of the Trojan War/Bronze Age Collapse. The word Palestine derived from Peleset, a tribe of “Sea Peoples” likely from Sicily. They are the biblical Philistines, and Peleset roughly means “invader” in Hebrew. “Palestine” or “Philistia” (root of Filastin) was a region in the south consisting of 5 major cities, the chief among them being Gaza and Ashkelon. The Philistines were conquered by the Neo-Assyrians in the 7th century BC and scattered into exile across their empire just like the 10 lost tribes. Your idea of “generally lived in peace” is also extremely dumbed down and an outright lie. There have been countless massacres and pogroms against Jews in Muslim-ruled Palestine, with frequency increasing rapidly in the lead up to the establishment of Israel.

[@boygenius538_8]

What source do you have on these pogroms?

[@Pantsinabucket]

@@boygenius538_8 1517 Safed Pogrom 1517 Hebron Pogrom 1660 Destruction of Tiberias and Safed 1834 Pogrom in Hebron 1838 Druze attack on Safed 1929 Hebron Massacre 1936-39 Arab Revolt 1938 Tiberias Massacre This is just a small list of the major pogroms that occurred in Ottoman and Mandatory Palestine prior to the Israeli struggle for independence, let alone all the smaller-scale attacks and those that aren’t on Wikipedia, or throughout the rest of Ottoman territories and the Muslim world.

[@R0DBS2]

correct

[@alanle1471]

@@boygenius538_8 Hebron riots is one example.

[@yagilitzhak1054]

@@boygenius538_8 tsfat massacre, hebron massacre, tsfat looting

[@arikgorun6004]

As a jew who lives in Israel, this was a great and pretty objective video! One small correction though regarding the law of return - The orthodox consider jews to only be ones with a jewish mother (or converted). However, the Israeli law actually allows any person with at least one jewish gradparent to visit and get a citizenship. This is mostly as a result of the nazi policy during the holocaust, which considered anyone with at least one jewish grandparent a jew, and thus to be executed.

[@blondezeke6640]

Pretty sure Israel just accepts any Jewish immigrant

[@BamBamGT1]

He gets important details wrong though, like Israel did not declare independence within the borders set by the UN partition plan. He makes it sound like 'palestine' was already a thing in the following war, and that Israel "expanded" its borders. None of these are true.

[@ezra7088]

@@BamBamGT1 Israel did declare independence with borders slightly larger than the UN partition plan, as well as claiming Jerusalem, which had been going to be an independent territory in the U.N. plan.

[@BamBamGT1]

@@ezra7088 The first draft stated that the borders would be decided by the UN partition plan, but among others Ben Gurion opposed this by stating: "We accepted the UN Resolution, but the Arabs did not. They are preparing to make war on us. If we defeat them and capture western Galilee or territory on both sides of the road to Jerusalem, these areas will become part of the state. Why should we obligate ourselves to accept boundaries that in any case the Arabs don't accept?" Ultimately the provisional government specifically voted against designating any borders in the declaration of independence, thus there is no mention of borders.

[@fe6767]

If we are interested in getting things right, both sides prepared for war, not just one. And one side started their preparations decades earlier and put much more money and effort into it. Many Zionists opposed the UN partition plan (and had opposed earlier partition plans). Ben Gurion's way of "accepting" the UN partition plan was a convenient way of "accepting" it for international consumption and keeping his followers happy by planning to take whatever territory Israel could get. A strategy that continues in a slightly modified form today. Voting against setting borders shows an intention to expand.

[@georgetwine2261]

i’d be terrified of uploading this, great video mr beat!

[@iammrbeat]

Oh believe me, I am certainly terrified

[@snakesghost7817]

Whose watching this after October 6, 2023 to get up to speed on what's going on ?

[@dw1234.3]

Yeah bro get updated before the new season drops

[@R0DBS2]

as someone who lives in Rishon letzion, Israel I can confirm that the prices are unfortunately high and are still on the rise, many protests took place because literal essentials like bread and Milk cost over 16 NIS which is ridiculously high compared to our paychecks which stood still since the start.

[@itamarcohen6868]

where? milk is 5.90 and bread is 6.90, :)

[@R0DBS2]

@@itamarcohen6868 prices change often but in the local supermarket they all cost 18

[@itamarcohen6868]

​@@R0DBS2 aren't they under government supervision? They can't sell it for whatever price they want, it's illegal.

[@R0DBS2]

@@itamarcohen6868 idk dude i think it was only some breads but most prices are 6-7₪

[@mohamedabdelbakyroshdy6427]

I see you have failed to mention anything about the oppression that the Palestinians face by the Israeli government, how innocent people are often thrown in prison for years without a trial, where they are tortured, raped, and even sometimes killed. Also it really annoys me when you do the comparison as if those are equal countries because they most definitely are not, one of them is OCCUPYING the other one but you also fail to mention that even once in your video.

[@realbland]

there's a whole section where he talks about Israel occupying both Gaza and the West Bank?

[@ckogsh2585]

innocent? they are murderers

[@Adambenhmida0000]

@@ckogsh2585the thousands of children killed by IDF soldiers were Hamas?😂

[@ckogsh2585]

@@Adambenhmida0000 yes bru, if the "thousands" of children that are killed have guns then yea ofc they're hamas

[@kraney195]

@@ckogsh2585 Damn bro you should've said that to the jews during the Warsaw ghetto Intifada

[@mrm64]

*Sigh*.....we all know why we're here...damn it man...

[@yehudagreenfield]

Small correction. Jews are not called Jews until after the area was a Persian province called Yehud and the people in the province - Yehudim (Jews). "Jews" in the area before that are called "Israelites" and that applies to both those in the northern province of Israel and the Southern province of Judea.

[@amnont8724]

Congrats for the video, it's remarkably unbiased. I'd argue that the only thing you missed is that Israel left Gaza in 2005.

[@Ohad6712]

He also missed the yom kippur war in 1973, this war was way more devastating for Israel than the six days war. and he also did not explain properly about what actually happened in the Intifada - the killing of innocent Israeli citizens, not just "uprising". There is a huge difference.

[@1surfer12]

@@Ohad6712 The formation of Trans-Jordan out of two thirds of the Palestinian mandate was probably unintentionally omitted as well, along with the pertinent fact that Arab leaders in the mandate rejected the notion of Palestine, preferring the whole of what was left of Palestine to be part of Syria. The push to erase the memory of Palestinian Jews and make "Palestinian" an Arab-only term began in 1964 with the PLO, as part of the plan to delegitimize Israel.

[@mykasoda]

@@Ohad6712yeah and he also blamed Israel for the genocide of Jews in EVERY Arab country. All the geographical stuff was accurate but anything political was scarily biased.

[@Link9058]

@@Ohad6712I notice you only criticize his usage of the word “uprising” when Israeli civilians were the victims

[@avistern3257]

Also following a sentence exclaiming how 700,000 Arabs were all expelled from Israel (an openly debated statistic for many reasons), he goes on to say how many Jews also left Arab countries at the time, although that number was nearly as high, if not higher. Why minimize it? I find it hard to believe there is truly no bias when seeing the blatant ommissions and biases language throughout. It's just a shame that even what passes for an unbiased video ends up getting so much wrong and having such a spin.

[@leosolberg-minnerup9114]

You should mention how the Palestinian median age was always around 15 before 2010.

[@samyud1819]

As usual the british is unecessarily involved further messing things up

[@lishnyak1925]

Yeah, why take responsibility for your barbaric and hugely intolerant nature as arab if you can blame white people. It's so convenient!

[@stephenchappell7512]

They were used and abused as 🇺🇲 continues to be

[@stephenchappell7512]

They paid a heavy price for being there

[@TrentonR]

A slight clarification in regard to Israel's law of return: Jewish ancestry need only be proven by a single grandparent from either the maternal or paternal line, this is sufficient for the law of return.

[@ghofraneoueslati7258]

annnnnnnnnd converts duh

[@ikbenvoetbal]

Its an amazing video. If i can add a couple things. Before WW1 ended, the UK promised to establish a land for the jews (as you stated). The british also promised itself it would occupy palestine and jordan and promised france Lebanon and syria (which you hinted at). One thing left out was that Britain ALSO promised the entire land to the Meccan royal family in exchange for support to overthrow the ottomans. This is one reason, I suspect, why the muslim nations were against the UN borders at the time.

[@shainazion4073]

Can you back that up? King Faisal approved of the Jewish state at the Paris Peace Conference in the Faisal-Weissman papers. Try again!!

[@greenbee6902]

Important details not fleshed out in the video: 1 - When you call Palestinians Arabs, the average person might think they are from Arabia, which is not true. Palestinian Arabs(like Syrian, Lebanese, Iraqi Arabs) are arabized peoples. They have adopted the Arab identity or may have some Arab lineages due to the legacy of Arab caliphate rule, but genetically they are indigenous to where they live. According to genetic research that compared modern DNA to ancient DNA the researchers found “In a principle component analysis (PCA), the ancient Levantines clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and Bedouins and marginally overlapped with Arabian Jews…” (The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish published in "Frontiers in Genetics"). Modern day Palestinians are largely the descendants of Jewish and Christian converts to Islam. This is crucial because many uninformed observers simply believe Palestinians are random Arabs who settled in Palestine after removing its original inhabitants(such ethnic cleansing has never been recorded). 2 - The Jewish population right before the Belfour declaration was 11% 3 - The Arab leaders rejected the UN plan because it was drafted without consulting the Arabs, while the Jews were consulted beforehand. Despite owning 94% of the land, Palestinians were given only 45% of the land by the UN proposal. Meaning that nearly half of Arab land owners would have their lands seized and handed over to Jews(two thirds of whom were newly arrived immigrants). This is theft, plain and simple. The proposal was drafted fully knowing the Arabs would reject it, and they weren't unreasonable in doing so. The UN, British, and Jews had no intention of drafting a more fair proposal and never did. 4 - The Jews owned 5.8% of the land(Survey of Palestine by British government 1943), Note in the imagine of ‘Land ownership by sub-districts’ Jews did NOT hold a majority of land in ANY sub-district. Though they were more concentrated in the North. The claim that Jews bought land from the Palestinians and wanted to build their own state on such land is completely false. 5 - Arrested Palestinians in the west bank and Gaza go through Military courts that have 99% conviction rates(instead of civilian courts that Israelis get to go to). Thousands of Palestinians are tortured in Israeli prisons without any real trial or proof.

[@InDoMiNuS]

As an Israeli this video is simple and well made, not biased and for that I am thankful to you😁 (Edit) - Clearly he didn't go into detail of what actually is happening in Israeli territories, but it's for the better of his channel.

[@l10r35]

yeah mostly not biased but he missed a lot about terror attacks in israeli territories. for example since he did compared Israel to Palestine he could've stated how many terror attacks were on each side and etc.

[@hanna319]

not biased ? lol

[@InDoMiNuS]

@@l10r35 That's because he doesn't want to have his channel shadow-banned or destroyed with hate. He made the video in the best way he could without really showing a "bad side", just basically said "both do sketchy shit but great countries".

[@l10r35]

@@InDoMiNuS yeah it reminds me of ishowspeed talking about Israeli -palestinian conflict. At first he was saying he supported Israel but then his followers started hating on him so now he plays himself like he supports Palestine

[@l10r35]

@@InDoMiNuS btw as we speak, and you already probably know that, 2 policemen critically injured in a shooting attack. Fucking animals

[@selahanany5645]

This is cool but as an israeli I hoped for more of an outsiders view on israeli and palestinian regular life like u did in other comparisons, not more abt the conflict(which is, ofc, extremely important, but I dont want to dominate international view of the region). I love my country very much, with all of my many, many critiques of its governance.

[@iammrbeat]

Yeah, I hear you. History dominating this video more than any of my other Compared videos.

[@ploomich]

Agreed! As much as it is a major part of our lives, I hate feeling like an ambassador for a war I never chose to be a part of. It’s about time people realize there’s more to life in both Palestine and Israel. In fact most of us spend our lives trying to not let the political situation affect it so badly. (:

[@selahanany5645]

@@astudentthatwantstolearn Its unbelievable pandering, and I think most british jews would agree.

[@selahanany5645]

@@ploomich Exactly :)

[@superelizabeth9253]

@@ploomich אתה כזה מביך אלוהים

[@badmagic5247]

Watching the comments 🍿🍿🍿

[@fallenorrisen120]

Criticizing anything about Israel (Example: saying that Israel has bad food) is not antisemitism.

[@Lucky04-23]

I agree

[@star5711]

me too.

[@anofsti]

I tried watching this - but the whole occupation makes me so sad I had to stop watching when we come to the modern day. It's just the inhumanity of it all

[@quattrocity9620]

This Jesus guy seems interesting Netflix should make a series on him.

[@JustaJackalope]

Jesus was more than interesting, he was world renowned. He is my savior. Jesus is king.

[@AyaanAhmed12]

0:25 The map you used is literally the map of countires which HAVE RECOGNIZED Palestine.

[@franciscocruzv3733]

The countries in gray do not recognize Palestine

[@Just_Hadi09]

Can't wait to see the highly civilized comment section!

[@okaygerepied5388]

grab the snacks

[@TheScovin720]

I’m a Lebanese-American that is very influenced by the Arab culture. This topic is very weird, many Lebanese people find themselves is a middle-ground on this topic and if anyone can accurately explain it then Mr. Beat is it.

[@anonymoususer8895]

You’re not and will never be American! Get out! We Americans don’t want you here! Go back to your drug den of a country! Terrorist go home! One of the 9/11 hijackers was Lebanese and Lebanese took our diplomats hostage!

[@anonymoususer8895]

You’re not and will never be American!

[@petitthom2886]

Hats off, thanks for covering this ! But also… GOOD LUCK TO READ THE COMMENTS, you’ll need it lol

[@iammrbeat]

ikr? lol but thank you!

[@petitthom2886]

But I’m very surprised with most of the comments being civil with this very sensitive subject

[@franc8023]

13:38 don't lie, is not was just israel m8. It was all UN and USA collab

[@orkaorbo2766]

Small Correction: I believe Israel’s Law of Return applies to anyone with a Jewish grandparent and spouse as well.

[@bogumilaskowron2680]

What about Palestinian right to return?

[@jodishapiro9257]

It does.

[@jodishapiro9257]

@@bogumilaskowron2680 no such right. It’s an issue that will have to be discussed in formal peace negotiations.

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@jodishapiro9257 no such right? So 3000 years ago is fine but just 75 years ago needs to be negotiated? 😂 That is ridiculous

[@kfiraltberger552]

Look I don't wanna get into the small details of the conflict, or this message will be an essay. But here are some important things to note- 1. This video is very well made, and is very unbiased to either side. Many videos have a bias to Palestine, and many have one towards Israel, but this one is (mostly) neutral. I will say, it is very hard to make a video covering a conflict without letting a bit of personal bias into it, and it is very hard to know the exact facts of the conflict, since there is so much fake news around (I will admit, I probably have some wrong facts, and since I do live in Israel I definatly have a bias) 2. Israeli politics are very... interesting. For example, this nation was mostly secular and socialist in it's concieving, but dew to rising nationalism, that really changed. The party which used to dominate, Mapai, which then united with other parties to form the Avoda, now has little to no power in Israeli government. the Avoda, Meretz, and the Arab parties, are the only left-secular parties, and they are only around 25% of the Israeli congress ("Knesset"). During the reign of our arguably best prime minister, Yizhak Rabin, we came pretty close to ending the conflict. However since his assassination by an ultranationalist religious guy by the name of Yigal Amir, things have changed drastically with many of his reforms being subverted by the new leading party named "the Likud". 3. I myself believe that the solution should be a full creation of an Arab/Palestinian sovereign state in the west bank and Gaza strip, and leaving them with a full liberty to elect leaders and conduct foreign relations. Many people like me in Israel are feeling quite frustrated with the state of Israeli politics, the rise of nationalistic right parties like the Likud, and wish to see an end to their reign and a start of two secular democratic states. 4. However- I do agree with the right politics of this nation on a few points- we are here, our nation is legitimate, and we are not the villain we are made of. Many of our past and present decisions were made out of almost pure self defence. And no, I don't think our state was legitimate to begin with, but for the past 7 decades we have made it so, and making the Israeli state disappear will only cause the death and suffering of our citizens under the newly formed Arab regime, which will only cause the same problem but towards the opposite side. To touch the other part, many of our blockades of the Gaza strip are strictly to starve out Hamas, and while it's not ideal, and millions are suffering, leaving the Gaza strip free will only cause Israelies to suffer. 5. The state of Palestinian healthcare and economy is the one thing I feel like your video was incorrect about. And sure, the facts you gave were correct, but you failed to mention other facts, which made your conclusion sound like "Israel is the reason why Palestinians are ailing and poor". No. Israel has, many times, given grants of millions to the Palestinians, especially the Gaza strip, but what we see is that they go almost entirely towards funding weapons, missiles and bombs. The Hamas and Fatah organizations are clearly putting civillians next to military objectives of Israel, and many times do not evacuate areas that we have warned of airstriking. Now if you take that with the state of Palestinians today, the conclusion that I get to is that the Hamas and Fatah organizations are very much the reason of their own people's death and suffering. 6. This one is the final one. I think one of the problems of this conflict going south is nationalistic ideals overcoming logical and ethical ones. We should, in my opinion, make the violance about liberating the Palestinians of their oppressive and cruel overlords. Especially the Gaza strip. I hope people in Palestine will one day live in prosperity in their own nation, and that our conflict will become similar to the Turkish-Greek one. We will fight, sure, preferablly with words over missiles, and argue, but reluctantly coexist, two democratic and technological nations, with citizens thriving, and maybe even visiting the other place, to see what was once their arch-nemesis. But for now, that is but a dream, a fantasy, until we rid the world of terrorist extremists. And btw, Israel does have it's own terrorist extremists. I myself am protesting against one, named Itamar Ben Gvir, who is running for Knesset under the party "Ozma Yehudit" or "Jewish might". He has many times claimed all Palestinians should be killed, he is homophobic, racist and sexist, he said the guy who killed 20 Palestinians in the mahpella cave should have a national holiday, and he openly supports Yigal Amir, the afformentiond assassin of Yizhak Rabin. This final rant is me saying- we have bad extremists two, not better than the ones in Palestine, but they aren't leading the country (for now- hopefully for good).

[@TrueMithrandir]

best statement so far, much to chew on

[@BamBamGT1]

Looking at the false information throughout the video, I would say it's kinda Palestine biased. Like he says Israel declared independence within the un partition plan borders, fought a war against '"Palestine" and othe rnations, and expanded it's borders. This is blatantly false, Israel did not declare borders, and the post war borders became the border the UN recognized. Israel did not fight a 'palestine'. He pushed the invention of the "Palestinian people" several decades forward, even though the term "Palestinans" was post 1948 mostly used by and for the jews, not the Arabs. At the end he uses the false propaganda term 'occupied Palestinian territories'. Now we see why he lied about the initial war and borders. He's trying to make it sound like Israel took land from and occupies land from "Palestine". The only 'Palestinan lands' are Area A of the West Bank and Gaza. Area B and C are occupied lands (because Israel expanded beyong it's recognized borders after 1967 and took the west bank from Jordan), but they are not Palestinian lands. These falsehoods are further pushed by the image he uses throughout the video to depict his notion of Palestine, which includes area B and C.

[@psicologiajoseh]

Thank you for taking the time to share your take on this conflict. I found it valuable. Nationalism and religious fanaticism make it harder to live peacefully with our differences as humans all over the globe, and this conflict seems to be an example of those two problems from both sides. Also, I think the history of continuous oppression from previous empires makes things harder for Arabs in that region. And in recent history, the support for Israel from world powers like Britain and the US for Israel, and the lack of support from the international community for Arabs in that region is essential in making things worse for the Arabs and easier for Israel, in my opinion. But I also believe that Israelites have a right to live in their land. I hope Israelites and Arabs can find peace in their land.

[@MiguelRodrigues-wf4hy]

Your intentions seem good but your point of view is the same as the "right wing" israelites you claim to disagree with. In your point 4, you are justifying things as they stand. Simple statistics, 100% of the bombs israel drops on palestine hit a target,only 4% of low yield rockets fired by hamas ever hit israel with barely any damage. that is not proportional damage. Blockading millions in the pretense of defending dozens is no humanitarian reason. In point 5, you are whitewashing the poverty israel inflicts, like mentioned in the video, when it just unilaterally decides to withold funding from Palestine. And it is also called "victim blaming". Oh if those foolish palestinians only did what israelites liked, instead of having their own organizations, they would be so much happier. In point 6, another discriminatory point of view, blaming the victim and insisting the blame is on them. Blame is on solely on "palestinian overlords" and none on israel. The reality is that since the Six day ware israel has ceased to have any existential threat. Peace is entirely in your hands, if you ever wished it. But Israel does not wish it, rather preferring to play the long game, hoping to have enough settlements to drive out all the palestinians from the lands you wish. Israel can achieve peace and a two state solution. It only needs to negotiate with only one precondition: the recognition by palestinians of the sovereignty and respect for a jewish state. Do that, and negotiate fairly on borders, compensation and free movement, and you can achieve peace in a fortnight. Even now, many palestinian families just have to speak to their grandparents and have living memory of the lands they lost in 1948 that were held for hundreds of year. For israelites, they can claim the land since their grandparents got there, but before that they have to go to 3200bc for some vague right to that place. The saddest part of this whole saga is the sheer hipocrisy of it. Jewish people have been persecuted for millenia. You know what it's like to be put behind walls, to be killed for religious reasons, despised and discriminated for no reason other than the god you believe in. Thankfully, Jewish people have always persevered and have given the world amazing contributions in science, politics, economics, arts, etc. But israel is doing to palestine things that were done to jewish people. You see the open air prison of gaza and immediately the warsaw ghetto (as many other ghettos established by germany) comes to mind. Walls, blockade of essential goods all for the reasoning that to keep the rest safe, we must keep that population within. Deny them rights to safeguard ours.... And you fall for it, thinking you are right, because you consider those within are dangerous to your existence... The brave people who fought in the warsaw ghetto uprising are not blamed for fighting their oppressors. Israelites and palestinians both are children of god and deserve their own state. There are devils and angels amongst both, no side can claim to be righteous. But the balance of power is clear, and in the favor of Israel. Which means it is Israel that has the burden to negotiate for real peace. The status quo only works for right wing israelites to continue building illegal settlements and to foster hatred in palestinians,which continues this violent cycle.

[@kfiraltberger552]

@Miguel Rodrigues Look, I can definatly argue some of your point, but- I agree with you 100%, that the conclusion should be a two state solution where both states are recognizing one another. I believe it is in the best interest of both states to simply coexist. One thing- do not try to make the comparison between ww2 ghettos and Gaza. Because in the ghettos, poo was flooding the streets, people didn't have running water and had to get buckets of it, and the ghetto was so crowded that 3 families lived in 1 apartment. I understand conditions in Gaza are difficult, but claiming the two are even similar is just spitting in the face of my grandparents and great grandparents who had to withstand living in such conditions.

[@nir4885]

Hey Mr. Beat, I have been a subscriber of yours for a few years now. I will begin by saying that this video is amazing, you covered the subject efficiently, and you have presented the land's history from an objective standpoint. I was extremely surprised that when you zoomed in on the Israeli map you were set on the city i grew up in (Yehud). I was somewhat moved by that, never thought you will ever have an encounter with my small hometown. Anyways, I think that this is a great opportunity to thank you for your great educating content. Additionally, I was a little disappointed that you did not mention how successful the Israeli economy has been. For a country who wasn't gifted with great natural resources, our success was created thanks to entrepreneurship nature of our people. Anyway, great video and really looking forward to that Tel-Aviv Jerusalem comparison.

[@Shellybelly778]

Are you a Jewish Israeli? Cause I don't know how anyone that is knowledgeable of the situation could think this video is fair in any way.

[@Shellybelly778]

@@DanBorens the video was very pro palistine

[@patriciawingate6423]

@@DanBorens the Irgun is slandered. While they fought the British as insurgents, tales of their atrocities are exaggerated enormously by Left leaning Israelis as well as Arabs.

[@glarusboi]

He should have also mentioned the $3+ billion and technology sharing the US gives Israel each year to help shape that economy. Meanwhile Israel "collects" Palestinian taxes and doesn't give it back. Taxation without representation. But then loves to talk about its table scraps it gives Palestine as some sort of perverse charity.

[@patriciawingate6423]

@@glarusboi Israel actually provides value for money. Indeed, the value added by money paid to Israel is far greater in the benefit to the American economy than any monies paid to Palestine. You are comparing apples to bananas. Paying money to Palestine is 'bananas'! The money withheld by Israel is equivalent to the money paid to terrorists for killing Jews. Seems, you want them to pay stipends to murderers of Jews.

[@santiagoalcantara3806]

12:35 in direct violation of the self determination right of palestians stablish in the league covenant of 1922 article 22 which stablish the right of independence of Palestine as a unified stated.

[@desert_iron_123]

Oh these comments are gonna be fun. Also, thanks for taking it back 4K years back and not starting in the late 1800s like everyone else does.

[@netanelzion]

futher more,they start in the late 19th century and only mention the "european jews" with complete disregard to mizrahi jews who make half the jews in israel and created many of the jewish neighbourhoods that popped in the 19th century. good for mr beasr

[@CommunityGuidelineViolation]

The value of this video may surpass any other history (or in even broader terms 'educational') video on KZbin and has made the Israeli Palestine conflict infinitely more understandable to me. Thankyou!

[@adayinforever]

Wow. This video was made on October 7th. Exactly a year before, well, you know.

[@noona7701]

Just one small thing. (I could be wrong but this is from what I know) anti semitism is not not for hostility against only Jews, but rather hostility to Semitic religions (Muslims, Christians, and Jews). Also I’m sorry if my wording is kind of weird I’m not that great at writing English.

[@hashaketvehatsanua7566]

the scientific term, incorrect. the used term, very incorrect/

[@oishyundai]

usually we use antisemetic in reference to jews because other semetic religions already have their own words

[@Leaked1ndex]

It is semetic languages not religions. The Semitic languages are Hebrew, arabic, and Aramic. So its mostly in refrence to jews, muslims, or Christians who speak those languages. The other 2 commentors are idiots with no idea that the term anti Semitic orignates from a jewish public figure that wrote a letter to racist Europeans (like Germans) in defense of Jews AND Arabs from Europeans who said they were sub human. Of course every isreali and their supporters are low iq bots

[@sebastianlaplume461]

Semitic people include Arabs, however antisemitism is specifically racism against Jewish people. The west hasn’t really made a specific word for racism against Arabs because they hate Arabs for no apparent reason. Islamophobia is the closest thing however not all Arabs are Islamic so that’s not very accurate.

[@noname-hf9ty]

​@@oishyundaiwhat's anti-christianity called?

[@TheSignofJonah777]

Good to note that during the nakba the 700,000K that left were mostly forced out by Egypt but 300,000 stayed and those muslims are still living in Israel today.

[@GESAM121]

Beginning is good, called Palestinian territories at all democratic is crazy considering neither Palestinian leader (Hamas or PA) will allow for election

[@OliveGodd]

I feel like when you are saying it's Israel versus Palestine and all the other Arab countries you're leaving out the fact that Britain and the USA were part of that war on the side of Israel it's not like Israel did it alone

[@asafh739]

you can see in the wikipedia page of 6 day war, that israel did not get help from usa and uk( unless you consider selling weapons as millitery help). in fact egypt got help from USSR with more than 10000 soliders in the war of attrition at 1969-1970

[@calebr7199]

@@asafh739 The USA is Israel's largest trading partner and constantly buys weapons from the US. Selling weapons is obviously military help.

[@saberneumayer1692]

@@calebr7199 yeah now, but not back then

[@talink6867]

source?

[@asafh739]

@@calebr7199 selling weapons is not millitary help. israel trade it's own money with weapons from usa. millitary help is when a country supplies weapons to other country without recompense from the other side(just like usa now supplies weapons to ukraine)

[@alanclark639]

In many situations it's become utterly impossible to even bring up the subject of Israel / Palestine - in the U.K. sentiment runs all the way from folk who think Hitler was right and who won't hear a word said against Palestinians to others who feel just as strongly against them. We've just had a big witch hunt for antisemitism in our Labour Party but I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to find Conservatives who have similar thoughts. I'm a practical sort and wish both sides would stop being sides and just find a way of living together - the planet has bigger fish to fry than worrying over one tiny part of it causing so much anguish. The big elephant in the room for me is - if other Arab countries find it so easy to fund the conflict - why don't they open their doors to more Palestinians - many of them seem to like the idea of bottling up a load of troublemakers in Gaza because they certainly don't want them and the constant bad publicity for Israel making it a giant concentration camp suits too.

[@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial]

To whom does the Holy Land truly belong to? The Jewish Israelis, or the Muslim Palestinians? According to most historians, it belongs to the Catholic Filipinos.

[@iammrbeat]

Obviously lol

[@yougotitdude]

lots of Filipinos work in Israel as elderly care givers.