IBM "invented" the PC. Then everyone stole it

[@neutral_positron]

Bro came out of nowhere and dropped 3 videos

[@goodboy1522]

6 videos

[@theviniso]

@@goodboy1522 Where did these videos come from? Are these Nebula originals?

[@benrobinson1544]

Yes​@@theviniso

[@s3rit661]

6

[@inoppi]

@@theviniso the what originals?

[@philtkaswahl2124]

I've been around long enough to remember when "IBM clone" was near synonymous to "home computer."

[@phill6859]

I've been around long enough to remember home computers before the IBM PC

[@bland9876]

I bought a keyboard with a Windows 10 logo on it that said "for IBM PC and compatible" on the box.

[@Digital_Apparition]

Somehow the Lowspecgamer return

[@reggiebenes2916]

I knew one of the ex IBM VP's, there were a lot of them. He said they let all vendors sell their products to other vendors to avoid anti-trust issues, and Gates was well aware of this when he pitched PC-DOS because they had already finalized all contracts for BASIC. He said IBM wasn't concerned about anti trust in making their own OS, but they knew it would take years for IBM to create an OS, and he was correct it took a decade. IBM really should have used their own chip design. They were set up to produce chips, and could have delayed 6 months and started with a 16 bit design.. People forget how small INTEL still was at this time, and it's pretty amazing that they were able to scale up to demand.

[@phill6859]

It wasn't just development time. They wanted two sources for all components and they needed to be available so that people could repair them. Because they wanted computer stores to recommend their computer, which they would do if they could repair them. Intel had been making a lot of 8085 for embedded use, so they were quite big. But the IBM PC took a while to really take off

[@stachowi]

Paul Allen matured the relationship with Seattle Computer Products and Q-DOS... Bill Gates would have been a lawyer if it weren't for Paul Allen bringing things to his attention.

[@rtothec1234]

If any people saw this and found it interesting then watch the AMC show _Halt and Catch Fire_ which is a fictional composite retelling of the Gateway and Compaq stories just with pretty Hollywood people instead of actual nerdy, realistic looking programmer dudes. It is still a pretty good show.

[@falcons2770]

Real Life Lore saying “I-E-E-E” instead of “I triple E” hurt me

[@TheFrankHuda]

What?? That monster...then again, i suppose how would someone know if they just read it, right? How does everyone know it's 'I triple E'? Do only people that KNOW that ever bring it up in conversations?

[@thatonemoviebob3902]

same

[@1234567890q]

@@TheFrankHuda You just hear someone who knows how to pronounce "IEEE". Just any video produced by IEEE would do.

[@HirokaAkita]

14:43 "It has never been proven in court... *_YET_* ..."

[@Epic-so3ek]

IBM and "at the time" are now the synonymous terms 😂

[@debayanbiswas06]

dude isn't this what the series "halt and catch fire" is about?

[@henryca03]

The first season at least. Subsequent seasons focused on the then-burgeoning online sector, culminating with the advent of the World Wide Web in the final season.

[@Lord_Reset]

I was literally watching your channel yesterday being like I wonder when you're going to upload

[@Line49Design]

I hope nobody else uses books and stories from the 20th century as sources for the Gary Kildall story. It's really sad to see that old narrative about the plane flight repeated here in 2024. There are better sources with more of the story and context now, that make it more clear he wasn't incompetent, arrogant or flippant about the IBM opportunity.

[@phill6859]

DRI were incompetent and arrogant for not releasing CPM86 in the three years since the 8086 came out. They were wrong for not signing the NDA and wrong for not reducing the price of CPM.

[@michaelturner2806]

All the talk about an extended 32-bit bus that would be backwards compatible with ISA, and I was surprised to see it was EISA with no mention of VLB or how PCI eventually won. Maybe that's a bonus video to make, if you haven't already. I probably could learn all about it on Wikipedia but I like your video style.

[@Yossef_M]

finally, I have been waiting and checking your channel for months now

[@s3rit661]

Dude published 6 videos at the same time, why??

[@TheKillerStove]

He had previously posted these exclusively on Nebula. This is him catching KZbin up on the backlog

[@hv4329]

KZbinrs get paid more in December

[@cybernit3]

The PC Personal Computer wasn't invented by IBM; back in the mid-late 70s companies like Apple and hobbyists did it before IBM. Late on in the early 80s companies like IBM and Commodore got into the PC market to cash into it.

[@Aresydatch]

This is talking about THE STANDARD IBM x86 Open PC standard that Modern PCs are based on

[@xiao_eas]

3:05 interviewing the inventor of the microprocessor must have been insane 🔥🤯

[@inoppi]

I can (not) believe that simply ignoring the paid channel eventually leads to them releasing it for free

[@aaron_swartz]

Was starting to wonder where you were. Good to see you back!

[@rpWeb3]

WOW that thing had 16G of ram way back then?!?!

[@bigfatpandalaktana2747]

are you deaf

[@Bakensobek]

16K. As in *kilobytes*.

[@bigfatpandalaktana2747]

Amazing video quality, love the drawings. Hope you make more in the future!

[@litenantjv]

Oh gosh, i was just doing a rewatch of your videos and i was sad because i tough you did abbadon the channel glad you are back !!!

[@jwoody8815]

Love that your using other tech youtubers for character voiceovers. Clever.

[@geniusofhate]

glad to see you back

[@giacintoboccia9386]

Olivetti (that we'll see at the end of the vide as a member of the ISA consortium) had been so many times incredibly close to, yet incredibly distant from, seriously competing with IBM: In 1982 they released the M20, quite close to what a Z8000 powered PC would have been like. Actinometry made a nice video about the early history of Olivetti computers in the 60s and 70s; sure, the last attempt at competing in the 80s and 90s are a sadder story, but may be worth telling.

[@x7heDeviLx]

0:02 in the name Billy Lowe , Lowe is pronounced Low, like the Low in lowspecgamer . 😮 lol love the content.

[@scottfranco1962]

IBM shot themselves with the Microchannel. If sucessful, all they would have accomplished is the division of the PC industry in half. But the greatest strength of the IBM-PC was open architecture, so IBM didn't learn from their own success. EISA didn't work. Few cards were produced, and few computers used the standard. Intel instead backed the PCI bus, and EISA disappeared like mushrooms after a summer rain. The only cards that really NEEDED something better than the ISA bus were graphics cards, and they went with the VESA standard bus, which was completely different from anything, including MCA and ISA busses... but worked and bridged the industry to the PCI bus. In retrospect, IBM did everyone a great favor by introducing the MCA bus. It was a left turn that IBM was saying follow us or follow them. And the answer was to follow them. It put the final stamp of approval on the IBM-PC clone market.

[@phill6859]

Bill went to IBM and told them about 86 dos and said that IBM should license it. But they said, no you license it and modify it to our specifications.

[@Valery0p5]

You published so much stuff all at the same time that it's hard so see what's new and what's not 😅 You could have dropped them over the week

[@wozhardy]

Hardly . There were several computers around in the early 1980s..

[@TeslaDeCastaka]

True, in history the first PC, complete and fully functional, is from Olivetti (italy) in 1964.

[@MangoPango1973]

IBM developed the IBM-PC. The Personal Computer was invented more than a decade earlier. Either the Kenbak-1 from 1971 and the Q1 from 1972 are considered the first PCs in history.

[@DFX4509B]

IBM back then was like Apple in the present-day.

[@gaelcarreram]

Thanks for comeback

[@phill6859]

IBM didn't consider the IBM PC as something worth protecting because it was a product they were making so that their salesteam could offer mainframes and PCs. Nobody else could do that.

[@dividebyzero1000]

Been a while since I learned anything from one of these tech history videos. Too many focus on the MS/IBM deal. Somehow missed (or forgot) how important Compaq's role was. Had no idea about IBM using off the shelf components, nor how critical the bus was. Always knew that OS2 was their failed response to the threat of MS-DOS, but missed the core hardware difference.

[@milasudril]

Who ever controls the BIOS. Today it is AMI

[@Toleich]

Yea, and they're a litigious bunch. AMI are a pain to deal with as a vendor.

[@hyoenmadan]

@@Toleich But they are at least pretty careless on their IP. Or their clients at least (which benefits community, specially in the retro arena). Their BAP tools to modify their firmware, and source code examples leaked from taiwan and shenzen are readily available everywhere. Now try to find any official tool or source sample to modify Phoenix or Insyde binary firmware capsules.... Is almost impossible.

[@DFX4509B]

CoreBoot and LibreBoot also exist as an open BIOS.

[@rhebucks_zh]

25:54 1988 not 1998

[@ThomasGanterPrien]

How come the latest video I find on nebula is October 15th? Weren't the videos supposed to be released there first?

[@AllboroLCD]

Gary Kildall invented the PC when he discovered an Intel CPU made for use in appliances could be capable of doing so very much more. RIP Gary

[@hyoenmadan]

Not really... CP/M wasn't widely running in the 8086 for some time. It wasn't when IBM people went to them at least. Gary had preference to other CPU architectures to run CP/M, like the z80 or the 68k. But I feel every Yt "mainstream" channel who talks about the subject always tries to whitewash on BillG and MS, and throws dirty on Gary or Gary's wife. No one takes in count the existing connections which BillG parents had in the government and IBM to get their rich son a better deal than a 3rd party to the "powers" like Gary would ever get. Is very well known BillG mother had relationship certain IBM people. Is easy to blame Gary's wife when no one read wth was written in that IBM contract. Anyways, I don't expect a mainstream monetized channel with an alternate channel in nebula to talk about such subject.

[@AllboroLCD]

@@hyoenmadan I may not have all the facts regarding CPU arch, But CP\M is without a shadow of a doubt the FIRST purpose built for home PC's operating system.... to hit the public market. I just want credit where credit is due, but it is heartwarming to see not everyone is in the dark on this. TY

[@TeslaDeCastaka]

Can you explain why then in history books is reported that Pier Giorgio Perotto (Olivetti, italy) is creator of the first PC in 1964?

[@AllboroLCD]

@@TeslaDeCastaka What was the model and operating system this HOME PC ran, im extremely curious if or when im wrong on things.

[@TeslaDeCastaka]

@@AllboroLCD You can find many documentary about the Olivetti and the genius work of his engineers and is lot more interesting and real than all this silicon valley/sionist lobby propaganda.

[@rafaelgadret]

Awesome video! Thanks!

[@TheFrankHuda]

Surely it's pronounced 'Low'

[@ADo_Bad_Idea]

Let's goooooooo!!!! The legend is back!!!!!

[@pcawte]

IBM didn't really invent anything. They just assembled a standard kit of parts and used their market power to get it accepted. The thing that was different from other suppliers is they had the market power to establish a standard. The design of the original PC was actually quite poor and underpowered.

[@samwill7259]

Does anyone know the credits for the character voice actors?

[@takingoverme87]

He’s back!!! 🎉

[@n45a_]

I just watched this topic in Asianometry's video come on yt.

[@realityveil6151]

22:30 Real Life Lore is a terrible voice actor, lol. No hate, I love him, but he's just using his youtube voice XD

[@bocahdongo7769]

Let it be as a little easter egg

[@ThomasGanterPrien]

6:27 Alta-ir ?? I have never heard it pronounced that way ... 🤔

[@christiangomez2496]

Return of the king

[@bocahdongo7769]

21:46 Hey reallifelore guy

[@scottfranco1962]

History simplified to excess...

[@WohaoG]

Why does everyone look weirdly attractive in this video

[@jackmoorm]

HE’S BACK!

[@OfficialPCMR]

The Genesis!

[@ebm3199]

Joe Scott caught me off guard lol!

[@danko6582]

My first work computer was an IBM Portable. It was awful.

[@spqr2124]

Btw it's Low loooooo no E I mean they even say it correctly once in your vid dude lol 😂 nice

[@polocatfan]

You can't steal the design of the computer, that's dumb.

[@TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd]

Bill Lowe is pronounced Bill Low not Bill Low-ee

[@nnnnnn3647]

Apple's business model turned out to be better. Full control, better devices. PC clone manufacturers from the 80s and 90s no longer exist.

[@atomicskull6405]

The design quality of Apple devices is terrible. Hinges designed to fail and not be repairable, forcing you to upgrade etc.

[@nnnnnn3647]

@@atomicskull6405 LOL. The hinges are the best in the industry and will last 100 years.

[@vdpt9911]

4:54 is that apollo justice lol edit: 5:50 I KNEW IT, way to leak aa7 man lmao EDIT 2: 14:50 mia too? time paradox for the filler case?

[@AshNonokPlays]

Like Rob said I'll think about it before I subscribe to Nebula? Got bills to pay.❤

[@batcat9k]

awesome!

[@liamcoldrick8044]

I miss the old low end gaming videos from you😢

[@iriasu1667]

I hope you know RandomGaminginHD

[@liamcoldrick8044]

​@@iriasu1667yes I'm subscribed to him

[@Chevroletcelebrity]

I have to poop 🙁

[@fishbrainCTRL]

Douglas Englebart invented the PC then IBM stole it.

[@jimmysindia]

😂😂😂🎉🎉one monkey walked and other monkeys copied, he should have stopped this to stop the world from evolution....... 🎉🎉🎉 copy paste is the fundamental process in evolution...... 🎉🎉😂😂😂😂😂

[@DukenukemX]

How the PCMasterRace was born. We had beige hair and not white like today.

[@cyberleone00]

my dumbass read IBM as Internal Combustion.

[@supaasandy9807]

Bro really said "Ok, I dissapeared for almost a year, so I will upload a new video, 4 remasters, and then I will erase some old videos of the same topic, make a compilation and reupload it as a new one, just to look that I reeeeally didn't let the channel down during this time, who will notice it?"

[@Toleich]

Good grief man. Drop the Nebula thing. I get the need to create a viable alternative to KZbin but it should be because it's a better product. Using platform exclusives to strong arm people onto your platform is a bad long term strategy.

[@alissonandre]

Time to unfollow this spam channel

[@merklamda]

Ok bye then

[@ghoulbuster1]

C ya next week

[@atlasfugged9044]

who the hell is beel lowie?

[@tuvalutorture]

YOOOOO HE'S BACK!!!!