ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2023 Final Preview - India v Australia: Welcome to the Big Dance

[@suj4588]

Then who lost on 1975 1996 finals 😂😂😂

[@rrao7963]

Atleast 1975 they fought unfortunately lost 1996 dew aravinda desilva Australia dropped two catches main difference they lost

[@suj4588]

@@rrao7963 I just replied for the comments made my one of the anchors , Aus never lost in finals ... It doesn't matter how they lost

[@chakradharmaddineni9103]

Every team that lost has some reason or other bad luck, dew, yadda yadda. Australia did lose and that is the point.

[@arafatahmed9468]

Modern day game never witness ausi to lose in final bro....

[@diegohera88]

India literally defeated Australia in the BGT test series back to back within 3 years in their own den gabba with half strength injured young players against full strength Aussies.😂😂

[@thetoporderpodcast]

What a great series that was - maybe not for Baldy, though, as an Australian fan :-)

[@diegohera88]

@@thetoporderpodcast thanks for wonderful coverage of the WC. I follow all the shows.🤙🏻 I can’t wait for the Indian tours to start in Aus & NZ. Although we will start with SA tour after this WC.

[@mbfarookh]

India should win the World Cup for GOAT Virat Kohli. WARNING! This is a long write-up. You are advised to skip if you don’t want to read. No irrelevant comments, please. Those who are really interested in reading may proceed. Relevant comments are welcome. India have been calling the shots in this tournament. They have been decimating the opposition teams and leaving mental scars that are hard to heal. They are functioning like a well oiled V11 engine firing on all cylinders (V12 isn’t an option, unless you want to count the 12th man too). I have made an effort to briefly highlight the special characteristics of players who make up the Indian team for what it is. This team is arguably the best ODI side to have represented India in the history of the World Cup. Not even the World Cup winning team of 2011 can match it in terms of performance. Ro’hitman Sharma, the silent and graceful assassin, he is one batter the opposition would love to watch despite the fact that he is sending them to the cleaners. The jury is still out whether his batting is more effective, or his captaincy. Shubman Gill is a star for the future itching to define greatness in the present. He was tipped to top the charts, only if it hadn’t been for a blood thirsty mosquito. GOAT Virat Kohli, already considered by many to be the best batter of his era, is the top scorer by a comfortable margin. He is hungry to win the trophy all by himself, if not, the team should win for him as a tribute to the living legend. Iyer, a player with immense talent but with a temperament that always seemed to pose the question - can persons be oxymorons? However, he has exorcised most of his demons in this World Cup and is amassing runs for India at a pace that puts India firmly in the driving seat. KL Rahul, a classy batter cast in the mould of Kohli but yet to reach his greatness. However, he has plenty of time at his disposal to establish his credentials as another great. He gives an added advantage to team India with his safe glove work. Oh yes… SKY, the best T20 player out to make a name for himself in ODIs. India’s top order is so strong that he might get less opportunities in the eleven, and if he is in, there is still no guarantee he will find opportunities to stroll down the wicket. Indians also have ‘sir’ Jadeja, the world’s best left-arm spin all-rounder and an outstanding fielder to boot. I hear a few desultory voices from Bangladesh, but I am in no mood to humour them. Boom Boom Bumrah has got all the ingredients, pace, bounce, guile, toe-crushers to send any batter to the cooler. He may not be getting wickets he deserves, but that’s no problem, he is softening batters for Siraj and Shami to feed on. Stats back Shami as the best World Cup bowler in history. He did not get a regular chance in the team, until recently, thanks to India’s problem of plenty. And thanks again to Pandya, Shami has been making the ball talk and giving batters sleepless nights. Kuldeep Yadav is a wizard with the ball graduating, it seems, from the Hogwarts School of wizardry. No batter in this tournament has picked him with certainty. He might well be the trump card in the finals. Siraj is an aggressive, attacking, fast bowler not afraid to go for a few runs. With a little help from the conditions, he can be unplayable and has the ability to run through the opposition. In Hardik Pandya, India had the best fast bowling all-rounder this side of the galaxy. Again, I hear some English moans and Aussie murmurs, but they are so feeble and perfunctory, I am unabashedly inclined to ignore them. India can afford to give him rest, at the moment. The same goes for Ashwin, arguably the world’s best exponent of off-spin but mostly getting a chance to tweak his fingers in the team dugout. Such are the bowling riches, at present, that he might be better off continuing to bite his fingernails. The saying goes… “if Bumrah doesn’t get you Siraj will, if Siraj doesn’t get you Shami will, and if Shami doesn’t get you… the spinners will”.

[@mychannel-dp1065]

I dozed off at Warning. 🥱

[@mbfarookh]

@@mychannel-dp1065 Good that you woke up to post this comment 🤔

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Love the passion! Hope you enjoy the final!

[@mbfarookh]

@@thetoporderpodcast 👍❤️

[@insertname1841]

Lol

[@ZORODL0ST]

India looking so strong so did south africa we cant make any assumptions in finals, who performs well will win the world cup,but as a indian im rooting for india love your pod guys❤🙌

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks for tuning in! Good luck for the final!

[@Observer9812]

For close to 50 years, Aus and Eng boards controlled cricket. Now that BCCI has the power, it's a case of sulking by others. Suck it up.

[@amitm2692]

Yeah....so much power that bcci can now afford to purchase a trophy at home.... that's a massive achievement mate

[@mayankm5200]

@@amitm2692 keep crying

[@heretichello8253]

​@@amitm2692fake id 😂

[@ray.shoesmith]

Hahhahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🇦🇺

[@glennmillard3497]

Its like this, if Australia bring their A game it's good night India 😁 While India are confident, I can assure you they are worried. What we need is a great game! World cricket needs to be the winner. May the best team win. And go the Ozzie's, never give in, and never ever give up😁

[@WaveRider1989]

Both teams bring their best game and playing high level cricket, would be an awesome WC final. Similar to 2019.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Agree - would be awesome to see both teams fire and a brilliant game of cricket that goes right down to the wire.

[@riteshpathak6588]

Well if I was Aus my one if the biggest threat will be Gill on ahmedabad pitch..... I m telling u if aus didn't took him early his gonna make daddy hundred especially on ahmedabad ground he owns that ground and he plays with good strike rate too

[@earlyriser8998]

watching this after the tournament but the pitch was less than 300 and the ball did move. You called this correctly! And the movement in the pitch was adequate. Marnus was a correct call. There was a great call on stoping boundaries. Aus did that so well. Keeping the score in check. Head was not mentioned until 23 min. Warner was way more aggressive than you mentioned. But talking about winning the game in first 20 balls vs losing the game was very true. Sirajah was the key as he was dropped by India until the 14th over. You put Head in the same category as Marsh and Warner as taking on the power play and winning. Head was not used that way to hold mid field. He was the anchor to just calm every thing down. Kholi match was won by him...except for the end. Getting the 'pressure' right was so good in the discussion. 5 or 10 overs doesn't matter as AUS Lost the 1st 5 overs but won the first 15 overs when batting. Bowling Aus won the last '30 of 50' overs with pitching and fielding. hated the man u and footie analogies loved the football (usa) story BUT very loved the idea if you win it is because of wanted you wanted for his children. Try as you can you can't beat the master but you must try.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes I'm sure it was interesting to watch this after the actual game to see what we got right and what we didn't! So many discussion points that we often don't always mention everything we're thinking about otherwise we would talk for hours and hours! Still surprising to us that Siraj wasn't bowled until after the power play - but Australia made it difficult for India and that seemed to throw off the usual gameplan.

[@JayakrishnanNairOmana]

If India bat first, I predict 285-310, Aus get there with 8 wickets down. If Aus bat first, I predict 315 - 335, India 230 all out. Final is all about handling pressure, and Aussies have it in their genes while Indians (and also South Africans) dont. If SA won the semis, India would have won the final. Moreover, whenever Richard Kettleborrough umpires a knock out game, India ALWAYS lose.

[@GotheBlackCaps-wf9ku]

Loved your coverage of the WC guys - fingers crossed for an exciting, close final!

[@thetoporderpodcast]

That’s the wish! Thanks for your feedback, glad you are enjoying the pod.

[@pm110978]

Thanks for your coverage during this World Cup Boys 👍

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Our pleasure! Appreciate all the comments and support throughout.

[@Observer9812]

Aussies: Bouncy pitches with zero turn in Australia......Good pitch Turning pitches in India with less bounce.....bad pitch

[@heretichello8253]

Bias. 😂

[@CaesarFernandesMusic]

regardless of the pitch, India still beats them :) thats how good this Indian team is - they've taken the pitch out of the equation

[@ray.shoesmith]

​@@CaesarFernandesMusic🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🇦🇺

[@Raveendhana]

Kuldeep will want batters to take him, to take wickets, on a slow wicket best of luck to the Australian batters

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes - exciting for a spinner when the batters target you. Should be a great battle.

[@georgeibrahim7945]

Think Australia will win quote comfortably. They will play their best game of the cup and have the complete performance

[@thetoporderpodcast]

We're about to find out - game on!

[@almac9203]

You called it correctly. Very comfortable victory.

[@georgeibrahim7945]

@@almac9203 yeah no one was giving Australia a chance all tough they won 8 straight games without playing their best. They know how to turn up when it really matters and the occasion got to India a bit they went into their shell.

[@PS-sb6rh]

Thank you for Pre-World Cup Final coverage.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

You're welcome - thanks for tuning in!

[@utter6798]

Problem for australia is even if they bring thier A game it won't assure them victory. This indian side is just that good. Prediction - india bat first and score 369 and australia all out 302

[@mychannel-dp1065]

Let’s reconvene on this topic in about 22 hrs

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes we'll find out soon enough! :-)

[@WaveRider1989]

What if india bats second ?

[@ray.shoesmith]

Don't give up your day job, Nostradamus 🤣

[@WaveRider1989]

@philleotardo_o lol. Poor indian fans man, please don't put salt on a deep wound 🙏

[@paulrichardson5892]

its the mental edge

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes hard to know from the outside how much that stuff plays into it. Think it does get forgotten in the conversation about India going unbeaten for 10 games that Australia also went 8 games unbeaten before the final then made it 9 when they won that game so were also in great form, even if not quite as dominant as India.

[@dnapolren]

As an Indian the only way to beat India is that India have played out of their skins to be this good all through and somehow in the finals their energy levels drop because of exhaustion..

[@WaveRider1989]

True. I do fear collapse but I thought that in Semi too. Hopefully not just one more game 🏆

[@thetoporderpodcast]

They've been absolutely brilliant, that's for sure - Australia definitely good enough to win a one-off game, but can't argue that India look the better team on paper and recent form.

[@WaveRider1989]

@@thetoporderpodcast I'm afraid Rohit Sharma will pull a Brendon McCollum of 2015 Final by missing the ball trying to go hard at Starc in first over 🙄 I know you'll probably can't forget that 😉

[@thetoporderpodcast]

@@WaveRider1989yes let’s not talk about that moment!

[@68arclight]

One of the best podcasts going. Great analysis guys. You deserve great success. Keep up the great work. Australia to win.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks! Has been so great to get so many positive comments during this World Cup. Appreciate your support.

[@nair55555]

You are fucking going to lose. Ball tampering AHo😅

[@David-jj9wc]

Brilliant analysis! First-time listener.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks for the kind words! Great to have you onboard.

[@Raveendhana]

First the wicket is going to be slow, India will not give a fast wicket, the Ahmedabad pitch will assist spin in both the innings, the second half will have dew in this weather, the team which play the conditions well will win the match.

[@user-hw4il1yx2q]

The groundskeeper has received his envelope....

[@Raveendhana]

@@user-hw4il1yx2q home advantage

[@glennmillard3497]

You forgot to mention one small thing. If Australia fires it good night India! India know and fear what Australia can do 😁 Australians don't give up. May the best team win 😁

[@Riyal_ViratKohli]

Impressive 🎉

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks!

[@beautifulbridgetmb]

India have been so impressive in this World Cup - no surprise to hear it would be one of the more dominant team performances in the history of the tournament.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

They certainly have. Stats mean nothing now though! Two horse race tomorrow!

[@Raveendhana]

The wicket will not be a raging turner but it will be slow as In the semi final match, they would just want to blunt Australia pace

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes let's hope the focus is on the players rather than the pitch or conditions or anything else. Two excellent teams and hopefully that's all everyone is talking about.

[@photonarun]

Australia's bowling ll lose the final for them. 5th bowler ll make the difference. India has 5 proper bowlers. 5 bowlers bowling brilliantly and consistently ll never lose the tournament. India ll dominate this final.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

India's bowling has been brilliant throughout the tournament - has turned out to be a great decision from them to play 5 specialists.

[@billyy777]

you guys need to fix the audio

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Curious to know - in what way? Sound is coming through clearly at our end and from the rest of the comments for most other people. Let us know what the issue is and we’ll take a look.

[@WaveRider1989]

​@thetoporderpodcast not sure why but with headphone I can only hear one ear. But sound is good. Not sure how to fix it. 😕

[@billyy777]

@@thetoporderpodcast the sound is clear but for some reason it seems like its more leaning on the left side speakers

[@robinblackwood8859]

Shami or Bumrah at 8 looks like a weakness but it hasn't remotely mattered. Leaving out the injured Nathan Lyon Ravichandran Ashwin is surely the world's best spinner but he hasn't had a sniff. India hasn't missed Hardik Pandya at all. I think the pitch is a red herring and agree with what you say. This pitch was last used on October 14th so surely it barely qualifies as a used one.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Amazing isn't it that the apparent weakness of that lower order has never even been a factor. Goes to show the quality of that top 7 and how good they've been throughout the tournament.

[@Maddy_23]

my dear left ear

[@doccy2006]

India 2023 Winner. ❤❤❤

[@thetoporderpodcast]

They're looking very strong!

[@bibekbaniya104]

Good content 👍

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks 👍Great to have you listening/watching.

[@pm110978]

Let’s Go Australia 🇦🇺

[@pm110978]

Anything is possible in the final.I’m expecting something special from Australia!

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Absolutely - if Maxwell can score 200 on a mixture of one and no working legs at times in the game against Afghanistan, then anything is possible for sure!

[@tinker000]

India will ragdoll Australia. It will be a one sided match unfortunately.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

They've been better across the pool play, that's for sure, but from a neutral point of view we're hoping that it'll be a really close game.

[@ray.shoesmith]

Sure was one sided 😂😂😂

[@maheshbabu540]

Time stamps pls

[@thetoporderpodcast]

There are some in the description - if you scroll down you should see them?

[@ganeshsubramanian1682]

Beautiful analysis. Very neutral. Fair and Good. Let the best team win.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Thanks! absolutely - hopefully both teams play to their potential and we get a brilliant final.

[@nair55555]

Neutral? My ducking foot. Aussies are bullied by india.

[@nair55555]

India makes your money chaps. With out that you are done. You win this. I will treat you both on my yacht in tbd carrebean

[@kirtigupta9753]

It's 70-30 to India if they bat second and 90-10 to India if they bat first. So, moral of the story is Australia will lose to India by 151 runs and if India bats second then Indis will win by 5 wickets. Either ways, it will be a shellacking for the Aussies.

[@karthikm.g8343]

The key player for India will be jadeja If there is some turn in the wicket australia will not make 270+

[@thetoporderpodcast]

He's a brilliant cricketer, that's for sure.

[@OMNI979]

⁠I think slightly lucky team will win as both teams are very much competitive along with vast experience of playing against each other they will fight till the end and some lucky moments will decide the winner We will try best to not play Rock Australian songs during game 😂

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Haha - we love a classic Aussie rock song!

[@amitm2692]

This world cup is a professional fix by the BCCI to win the trophy on home soil....u guys hv no clue what goes on behind the scenes....njoy the purchased final guys

[@OMNI979]

Bhai me to kahta hu dekhna h chod de sold out fixed game ko You will feel relaxed

[@amitm2692]

@@OMNI979 I don't watch it for entertainment...i watch it for other reasons....if u know u know

[@riteshpathak6588]

Toh baki boards ko bol kmao bc

[@UmpireStrikesBack]

Why are you deleting my comment? Why do you refuse to talk about Henry Nicholls?

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Not sure what's happened there, but haven't seen it - not sure how Henry Nicholls relates to the game tonight, but happy to talk about him :-)

[@UmpireStrikesBack]

@@thetoporderpodcast I think it was being auto deleted because I have cut and pasted the same question in every cricket channel I can find. It does not relate to the world cup so should be dealt with in a separate podcast The question is will you be discussing the Henry Nicholls ball tampering incident and the verdict of New Zealand cricket? There seems to be a distinct lack of international scrutiny.

[@thetoporderpodcast]

@@UmpireStrikesBackit had a bit of coverage here (although not by us as we’ve been focused on the WC) and yes moderately surprised it was dropped but to be fair haven’t looked at it closely other than the couple of clips that were doing the rounds on the news sites. I think by the time we talk about anything other than the WC it’ll be in about 10 days time and the Bangladesh test series will be close to starting. Am guessing from your comment that you think more should have been made of it?

[@UmpireStrikesBack]

@@thetoporderpodcast Yes I think more should be made of this. He did it 3 times, on the third occasion the short leg fielder tried to take the helmet from him. Nicholls nudged him away then committed the offending act then gave the helmet to the fielder. He is clearly guilty and I believe New Zealand cricket is covering it up.

[@albiceleste21]

🇮🇳🤍💪

[@rajbodepudi]

Ashwin should replace Siraj

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Love watching Ashwin bowl, but that would feel tough on Siraj to have played all throughout the tournament and miss out on the experience of a final. Guess the selectors need to do what they think is best for the team though.

[@riteshpathak6588]

Na aus have just warner nd head as main leftie then all righty..... For starc nd Hazlewood surely ind won't play ashwin especially if ind somehow hv to bowl in 2nd innings then playing ashwin most likely will be worst decision voz of dew

[@promodkalyani3871]

Auz bat first,

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Would certainly make for an interesting game if Aus batted first and scored close to 300.

[@silvershroud6263]

Australia current team not as strong as 2003 team

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Yes they seem more flawed than those great teams of the 2000s, but to give this current squad some credit they still have a few trophies to show for it.

[@WaveRider1989]

Obviously 😅

[@cygavin1980]

India will fup Australia in wc Australia 100 all out

[@thetoporderpodcast]

We'll find out very soon!

[@rrao7963]

As an indian i want australia to win kangaroos best

[@thetoporderpodcast]

Interesting! Kangaroos are entertaining animals - wouldn't want to get cornered in a boxing ring by one :-)

[@purnachanda5913]

Bhai tu Pak bhagg

[@rrao7963]

@@purnachanda5913 mein Australia ko jeetna dekhna chahta hu hindu brahman

[@afkass4965]

If Australia manage to beat india in the finals, who would you consider the best team of the tournament? India who might justve had a bad day, or Australia who even though statistically not the best, they manage to step up when it matters the most

[@thetoporderpodcast]

It's a great question - and different people would probably have different answers. Knockouts are an important part of World Cup sport, and Australia have been impressive since those first two games. But India have looked a class above and absolutely the best team in pool play, so they'd have a strong argument for being the best team of the tournament even if they lost the final. What do you think?

[@OMNI979]

@@thetoporderpodcastI think slightly lucky team will win as both teams are very much competitive along with vast experience of playing against each other they will fight till the end and some lucky moments will decide the winner

[@rayc5674]

You make your own luck. The better team will win and the record will show that they are the best team years from now.

[@riteshpathak6588]

I m telling u all the hype on other players but Gill is going to make daddy hundread, his only threat is just play hazlewood first 2 overs that's it. only hazlewood can frustrare gill especially on the ahmedabad pitch

[@thetoporderpodcast]

So many players in this Indian team who could steal the limelight. Only a few hours until we find out!

[@mychannel-dp1065]

Manchester United hahahaha