Ice Age (2002) Accuracy Review

Merry Christmas! To celebrate, let's look back on a wintry movie, Ice Age. How well did this cenozoic cinema depict life during the ice age? Does it hold up to modern paleontology? #dinosaurs #paleontology #iceage
Sources
Ground Sloth Cave Paintings: news.artnet.co....
Paleo Indian cultures: www.nps.gov/oc...
Peopling of Americas: news.uoregon.e....
Sid species: tarpits.org/st...
Smilodon family: www.sciencedir...
Smilodon Hip Dysplasia: www.nature.com...

[@itswizardtime63]

Bro's gonna have an absolute field day with the third movie

[@joshuaW5621]

It might also be the last one he would probably enjoy.

[@jordandino417]

Ye

[@Xxtickjrxx]

That means I can finally find out what LITERALLY species Maelstrom is!!! He's gonna do the entire franchise, right?

[@joshuaW5621]

@@Xxtickjrxx we’re not sure yet.

[@itswizardtime63]

@@Xxtickjrxx Maelstrom is in the second movie

[@teamninjabug8287]

The funny thing about the dodos in this movie is them being the butt of the extinction joke, but they last longer than all the other characters.

[@frosttheicefloeturtle8143]

FACTS LMAO

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

Fun fact! At the time, Scrat was an entirely fictional animal, a Sabretoothed Squirrel, but quite bizarrely palaeontologists have a found a prehistoric mammal that basically is Scrat, it’s called Cronopio dentiacutus, & it lived in Mid-Cretaceous Patagonia 99 MYA, while it’s not a Squirrel, it’s impossible to deny its semblance to Scrat. So if Scrat is retroactively a Cronopio, that means he’s from the subterranean Dinosaur world from the 3rd film.

[@QWERTY_boichnl2]

He WILLED himself into existing...

[@anon9579]

I’d say that too. People should start calling them Scrats

[@singingcrow439]

That does also explains why that female squirrel was down there.

[@ratqt.]

so... just like what he says in the video at 8:45?

[@saisameer8771]

​@@QWERTY_boichnl2Truly the strongest character in fiction.

[@PaleoAnalysis]

I've been telling people that Sid is a Nothrotheriops (Shasta ground sloth) for years! Even though he's definitely undersized. The real Shasta ground sloth was about bear sized at like 500lbs. Xenarthrans are kinda my thing 👀❤️ Great video! And Happy Holidays RRW!

[@redraptorwrites6778]

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video. Keep up the awesome work, man.

[@yohanmendis6881]

​@@redraptorwrites6778 Could you please do a goji center reaction

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

​@@redraptorwrites6778Can't wait for New Year's Eve?

[@thelittleal1212]

ReWatching the first movie again always makes me appreciate it more, it has such a campy feel that fits the prehistoric atmosphere, but after that, the series forgets it’s a Cenozoic ice age movie

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

One thing I’ve always liked about Ice Age, if you include the human baby they have, you have all major divisions of placental mammals represented. Mammuthus primigenius - Afrotherian Megalonyx jefforsonii - Xenathran Smilodon fatalis - Lurasiatherian Homo sapien - Euarchontoglires

[@SaulHeadlam2007]

The Afrotherian Part Makes Me Laugh, Since Manny Almost Has An Afro.

[@jaschabull2365]

Ha ha, I think I noticed that before as well!

[@Ahalaya]

7:42 Okay, I have to say, I haven't watched this movie in probably decades, but I love the use of the cave art here. It's beautiful and a great example of a movie that actually used some passion and creativity.

[@jonathansefcik473]

Please don't entirely stop making videos! Even if you need to greatly slow your upload schedule or shift to less time-consuming content in order to spend more time on your kids, we all really appreciate everything you do for us viewers!

[@kingagrabowska9366]

What I like about this movie is how the animals move. As the movies go one they loos this ''natural'' movement in favor of cartoon slap stick.

[@dudotolivier6363]

While like for the movie Disney "Dinosaur" I usually would otherwise think this movie don't deserved an accuracy video since this movie produced by BlueSky clearly have zero intents of educative purposes and go very deep into the cartoon and artistic direction about several aspect.... I however still enjoy greatly this video as diving in a way or another in the universe of this franchise, and especially the very first movie from which everything started (for me who have grow up with it, along it) is always a pleasure. And pointing out the inaccuracies of this movie to avoid potential young people and others what they can see in it isn't to be blindly taken and instead only with grain of salt is a fair thing to do. Aside than that, was a nice video, and very relevant for release at the day of christmas itself, given the very icy theme ! Very Christmas ! Red Raptor !

[@GoGojiraGo]

Maerry Christmas, you mad lad! One thing I really liked is the number of different species in the series, especially the obscure ones. I love to see how he reacts to and describes the villains of the second movie, Cretaceous and Maelstrom.

[@regane02]

I saw fanart of Manny’s first scene that replaced some animals with Bison and American Camels. Also if you take requests it would be interesting to see you cover Monsters We Met since it uses real animals to represent extinct ones

[@dudotolivier6363]

Yeah, using real life animals in documentaries about prehistory and extinct animals have always do this, even a lot. As plenty of animals clade we have today were already existing far long ago even many before the Dinosaurs and that modern members still look pretty much the same or close enough to extinct relatives. Like, why bothering itself to model a 3D Mesozoic small mammal or a Carboniferous scorpion when the animals of these clades alive we have look entirely like what would look these supposed species ? It's easier to just shot these animals and to implement them into the doc.

[@Caulin66]

12:13 MAJUNGATHOLUS MENTIONED GRAHH 🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@joshuaW5621]

That had me laughing.

[@momuvid777]

Am I Seriously the Only One who thinks the Ice Age Baby is Adorable and never thought they look Ugly?? Am I Brain Damaged????

[@invisiblejaguar1]

Thank you for going over one of my favourite childhood movies. Merry Christmas 🎄

[@margogoralski6294]

Merry Christmas, Tim. This was such an unexpected but welcomed surprise.

[@chasehedges6775]

A animated and childhood classic.

[@davidfiore4677]

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas, Red Raptor! If you do dino documentary reviews again like how you reviewed Ice Age despite it being a movie, I have a couple ideas if you’re interested: 1. Dino Lab 1 and 2 2. Dinosaurs Decoded 3. Prehistoric Assassins

[@joshuaW5621]

We also see what appear to be some chunky tapirs with short elephant-like trunks and slender legs with rather chunky feet. Now I’m not really sure if they are tapirs, I just call them that because they look similar, which I’m not usually known to do without knowing more about particular creatures that look similar to others that they’re not, but whatever. Apparently tapirs did inhabit North America during the ice age until about 12,000 years ago or 10,000 BC, but I don’t know if they would have lived this far north or if any were this thick, but I doubt they would have had proper trunks or thick feet as perissodactylids (which is the order tapirs are in) typically have feet as thick as their calves, and their toes don’t resemble elephant toes like what’s shown in the franchise. They also appear to lack hair or fur, which really tapirs would have. If anyone else knows more about these animals and how much they differ from their real life counterparts, do let me know.

[@Fede_99]

It's an outdated depiction of Moeritherium, a basal proboscidean which lived in North Africa during the Eocene. It also appears in the Walking With Beasts episode with the Basilosaurus. It's more likely that It didn't have a trunk and it probably had a lifestyle similar to that of a Hippo or a pygmy hippo

[@arturosandovalsaito2704]

Finally! I was looking for a video like this one.

[@LordBumblebee1238]

Although Scrat is retroactively a Cronopio, I’ve decided to give him the fictional species name of Sciuruscus Dentisaber which translates to “Saber-Toothed Ancient Squirrel,” which would’ve lived from 2.6 million to 10,000 years ago

[@horse14t]

Haven't finished the vid yet but I think a better Paleo Myth concept for Smilodon would be the myth that their sabers were fragile, especially now that we have skulls of animals that were punctured by smilodon sabers.

[@bigchungus6853]

they kind of drop a lot of the cohesion in the fourth movie. So I'd love to see what you have to say about the second and third one

[@cretaceousthehunted9669]

I thought you were done with reviews. Regardless, great to see you doing them!

[@bluethesabertoothrat4892]

I love this movie. But can people stop talking crap about the Ice Age baby, it’s getting old and also he doesn’t look that bad.

[@dudotolivier6363]

Yeah, I see over the years quite a fair amount of meme or stuff against the baby (who while not named in the movie itself is named Roshan I think). And yes, I don't understand the hate many people have against him. Sure may have its flaws and sometimes can be not supportable, but overall he still Ok as a character (that and the fact he is also the key driving force of the movie). And he have his scenes too. The goodbye at the end really neat and emotionnal.

[@jaschabull2365]

I'm just remembering the montage where the characters walk by Old Faithful, then Stonehenge. This ought to be fun. Yeah, I recall the dodos' presence coming off a bit goofy even as a kid. The implications they were dying off in the first movie went over my head, but I remember seeing the sequel which only shows one dodo promptly get killed following which they're all in heaven implying they're extinct and being like, "What? People who had writing saw live dodos, why are mammoths and smilodons being depicted outliving them?" Though yes, my family found that scene a stand-out quotable movie moment. I also remember seeing the megatherium scene in Walking With Prehistoric Beasts and it bugged me ever since how small Sid was. Neat to hear that there is in fact a real-life species that was closer to his size. Though it's kind of weird that the official website implied he was a megatherium. Yes, I visited the official website where you'd race characters around through the ice tunnel and play whack-a-mole with Scrat.

[@toomaz24]

13:49 I love that design of Macrauchenia Also the Glyptodons in this franchise are represented as turtles for some reason

[@PrinceJoseHerrera]

Ice Age is indeed a true classic despite being very different and in-fact was originally going to be a Don Bluth film yes from TLBT etc

[@undava7452]

Please continue the ice age series! It would be hilarious.

[@matheusmetalss]

NOW WE ARE FUCKING TALKING MY DUDES AND DUDETS, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@preyasmanthedemopan2854]

Okay, so a funny thing about the Dodos is that Bluesky didn't actually want to add them in the movie at all, they were forced to by Fox who "suggested" they add in Dodos. When Bluesky stated they didn't want to due to Dodos not being present in the setting, Fox threatened to cut funding. This is the reason why all the Dodos are shown dying in cartoonish ways, and the only other time they show up in the franchise was one dying to a geyser towards the end of the second film and never again.

[@dont-hurt-me2519]

Still think you should do an accuracy review of The Magic School Bus: The Busasaurus (S2E3)

[@symeou._.p2005]

This upload is a surprise for sure, but a welcomed one

[@jaxonkohle2174]

I’m fairly sure he has done it already

[@Maretoast]

Merry Christmas, im a massive Ice Age fan

[@Rocky4_26]

I’m so glad he hasn’t retired

[@OrcaMan2electricBoogaloo]

You should review T rex autopsy sometime if you can.

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

If you're gonna make more of these, you gotta make some comments on the assorted extra animals that keep showing up in crowd shots. That's the one area where these movie makers seem to put absolutely all of their scientific research!

[@thomaspunt2646]

Nice to see a fellow Everybody Loves Raymond fan.

[@stevenelbert8989]

If your still doing dinosaur documentary reviews can you do the last day of the dinosaurs

[@joshuaW5621]

That one is a sequel to Clash of the Dinosaurs so it would probably rank similar if we’re taking about the fauna, although the a Parasaurolophus and Sauroposeidon models being reused for Charonosaurus and Alamosaurus are questionable.

[@PaleoFan97]

Ice Age being more accurate than Jurassic Park is funny to me

[@dudotolivier6363]

These two are equally innacurate with only some accurate science just for the sake of it.

[@Astrapionte]

Huh! Never noticed that extra horn on top of Frank's head. I guess I subconciously thought it was his forehead or an ear lol!! Wow!

[@tahsin.a1046]

An accuracy review on a game would be interesting. Like Far Cry Primal for example.

[@Chintara17]

I never even noticed the horns until you pointed them out...

[@megaguy7161]

One accuracy actually in Dawn of the Dinosaurs that I liked was early in the movie when Diego was attempting to chase down pray and he tires out, since saber-tooths weren't built for long distance chases; only later in the movie, when he has a kind of adrenaline rush, does he work up the energy to keep pace cause Ellie's in danger.

[@tomerorlevi1673]

Thank you red raptor writes, that ws the perfect Hanukkah gift

[@ethanxillasaurus2572]

Merry Christmas!!!!

[@martinsoto6146]

How about you read the Dinosaur Sanctuary volumes I’ve got them for Christmas and so far it looks amazing

[@EPIC8-r6s]

On the 26th day of Christmas Santa gave to me a redraptor upload.

[@vegeta_2000]

nostalgia.. i wish i could watch this for the first time again!

[@johntodd3910]

I love ice age manny is probably is my absolute favorite

[@Firestar-TV]

16:06 damn, I'm jealous of that Guy🙃 Is that from a Documentary?

[@ratqt.]

im looking foward for the next 3 (4?) ice age movie reviews

[@theargentinosauruslad]

Merry Christmas

[@Thedinonerd-z6c]

Merry christimas 🎉🎉😊

[@caidenjohnson7391]

Finally someone did ice age accuracy haha

[@PwnzerProductions]

Is there an updated version of the term “Paleoindian”? For like Paleontological Native Americans?

[@JurassicDaikaiju]

The Ice Age movies were my childhood!

[@AKG_Studios]

Hey, Red Raptor writes, for your next accuracy review you should leaps of evolution, there are 3 full episodes on youtube if you just search them up.

[@thefirehawk8520]

13:00 okay this might be far fetched, but what if the great migration the animals do at the beginning is supposed to reference the great american interchange? They are moving away from the ice after all lol

[@dudotolivier6363]

Maybe it's an odd to it but that not sure. However, we do have a clear La Brea Tar Pit reference at the start of the movie. As when a group of youngs Moeritherium fake being in near death in a small pond of tar, their father force them to stop in order they continue their travel, saying : "You will play extinction latter".

[@NeoyouseiNewFairy]

Wants (Tier List Characters) - Tier List : Character Sharptooth - Tier List : Character T-Rex - Tier List : Character Raptor - Tier List : Character Primeval Series - Tier List : Character Ice Age

[@zanzillavids7759]

That thing was my frickin childhood

[@petarmilich8684]

Roshan looks like Wendigoon. So I guess Paleo Nerd is going to join In Praise of Shadows and try to cancel him.

[@enzoarayamorales7220]

I know it’s a completely fictional echo system but I’d like you to review the scientific accuracy of the croods.

[@AlvinNguyen2008]

13:56 You’re gonna have to use caseoh jokes for that one instead

[@kikicallahan3662]

You should also do an accuracy review on Anastasia

[@skye3352]

YES

[@megamegasaur]

You mentioned that the movie called Smilodon a tiger but, didn't mention that it also called the brontotheres rhinos despite them not even being perisodactyls.

[@tylerfish2701]

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all..... .....and Blue Sky never dies.

[@michaelbuono4007]

An accurate review of Dinosaurs Decoded since it does have good points on ontogeny and dinosaurs being colorful and bad points in saying Pachycephalosaurus couldn’t head butt and saying weapons on the face is the worst place to have them and Triceratops couldn’t use there horns for defense as well as minor things like pronated hands and the wrong foot shape

[@davycrock0441]

6:39 I thought those were cheerleaders when I was a kid 💀

[@caidenm221]

😂😢☠️☠️☠️

[@ajzeg01]

You forgot to mention how smilodons have never been discovered to have been depicted in cave paintings but they are in the film. Also, what is Stonehenge doing there?

[@davidostapenko2578]

So.... what do you think of the upcoming 2025's 'JURASSIC WORLD: REBIRTH' so far?

[@theangrysuchomimus5163]

13:17 If you think that's bad, there are some even older animals in the second movie. Much older

[@victorsztorc511]

Are you going to do an accuracy review for the 2005 remake of King Kong?!

[@dudotolivier6363]

There nothing to do an accuracy review from it. All creatures in the movie universe are fictives and edited in a way to be a menagerie of nightmare. So unlikely to be very accurate to real life prehistoric animal (if there none of these prehistoric animal to start with). Sure, there Brontosaurus and Brontornis, but none are accurate to what modern science, even back at the early 2000's, is.

[@Oscar-ek2jx]

18:02 full of aura?

[@tm43977]

Oh boy redraptor made review of ice Age

[@alecmcgrathofcanada9175]

I think the Macrauchenia is actually Xenorhinotherium. It matches the movie's depiction 95%.

[@tyrannotherium7873]

Oh please do a pack myth behavior on Smilodon since I don't think it didn't hunt in groups

[@tyrannotherium7873]

@ what are you talking about

[@NeoyouseiNewFairy]

(Required) Tier List Characters Prehistoric Creatures From Animation Dinosaur King - Saichania (Tier F) - Spinosaurus (Tier F) - Tyrannosaurus (Tier F) - Carnotaurus (Tier C) - Triceratops (Tier B) - Parasaurolophus (Tier A) - Megalosaurus (Tier F) - Deinonychus (Tier F) - Therizinosaurus (Tier A) - Pachycephalosaurus (Tier A)

[@DragonFruitXVI]

Merry Christmas. There is no other major long-lived holiday around this time. All the ones we have today were made in response to Christmas. Either through hatred or jealousy.

[@dracodracarys2339]

It would have been hilarious if when we finally got to see Sid's family...they're all Manny-sized Megatheriums and he's just a pathetic runt of the litter. 😂

[@earth5853]

I LOVE ICE AGE AS A KID AND I HAVE THE MOVIES!!

[@fred_fuchs]

If you want to see an old dino doc I would recommend Dinosaur! Narrated by Christopher Reeve, or PBS The Dinosaurs!

[@SAGOTO2006]

The funny thing is that according to Tier Zoo sloths were true S Tier during the ice age, but Sid seems to be the complete opposite case kkkk

[@diorraices9013]

Well to be fair tierzoo isn’t exactly a very good source(he spread the myth of the allosaurus hatchet bite)

[@SAGOTO2006]

@@diorraices9013 Yes, you're right, as he also mentioned the Troodon in the dinosaur tier list, as if it were a valid genus 😂

[@dudotolivier6363]

​@@SAGOTO2006Well, it isn't an invalid one, but just a dubious one. So, still by default existing. So still legit to mention if someone want. Objectively.

[@Aerostarm]

Yeah but tier zoo isn’t very good

[@SAGOTO2006]

@@Aerostarm ok

[@CryosisOfficial]

The tiger thing is extremely nitpicky. While I myself have always preferred to use the term "saber--toothed cat", "saber-tooth tiger" was an extremely common, well, common name for machairodonts like Smilodon back in the 2000s when this movie was made. I don't think anyone ever actually thought that Smilodons were actual tigers, it's just a comparative name. The American lion (P. atrox) and cave lion (P. spelaeus) are both not part of the species P. leo, but I assume you wouldn't fault someone for calling them lions.

[@Cordinjung5141]

Who looked more like a bear then any type of ground sloth

[@Liam94Smith]

Is the retirement off then? Merry Christmas!

[@snekkie117]

the missing fingers is most likely due to animation, its much easier to have to only animate 3 instead of 4

[@haumea2097]

How come you're back?

[@kikicallahan3662]

You should do an accuracy review on Yakko's World from Animaniacs.

[@johntodd3910]

I got video idea Accuracy review what killed the mega beasts and monsters we met

[@conneroakes8393]

Hey, I've got a new name for Carcharodontosaurus Iguidensis (C.Iguidensis). It is Machairodontosaurus Iguidensis (M.Iguidensis). Do you like my new for it?

[@tyrannotherium7873]

The only thing accurate is Manny with Diego the only thing he should have is spots but then again that's just my own dumb speculation and Sid we know that he looks nothing like a giant sloth

[@sevenidols607]

8:25 Unlesss Graham Hancock is right. New idea for a paleo myth series?

[@flightlesslord2688]

u should do primeval, not for the incorrect things, but for the correct things

[@maxmantell5009]

I think it’s set in Alaska or Yukon

[@KillerOrca1-y1k]

i though that sid was a megalonyx

[@kikicallahan3662]

You should tackle The Land Before Time

[@dudotolivier6363]

He already done an entire movies review and ranking series. Not about their accuracy, but I doubt he will return to it just for that.

[@TrajGreekFire]

next year do Mammoth: Titan of the Ice Age, it was made by the Tarbo guys

[@siats142]

Sid is notorious for his front teeth he is always showing. Funny enough, Sloths don't have front teeth