The Dual Core for "Enthusiasts" | i3-7350K

[@Elomentoplayz]

A overclockable dual core is such a cursed concept to me when 6 cores were common at the time. 4 core processors were basically necessary at that point to have a good time in gaming, so why would enthusiasts choose it over an i5? To make it worse, the i5 variant wasn't too much more expensive, was a 4 core, and would last you much longer. A standard i5-6500 on a OEM prebuilt would beat the i3-7350k everyday of the week.

[@lharsay]

The 7th gen i5s also aged like crap, the 6th-7th gen i7s had some decent longevity but then there was the i7 8700K which arguably still holds up today.

[@Elomentoplayz]

@@lharsay the i770 is still really decent and I somehow got one from a reclying place for free so I'm definitely gonna use it.

[@R3TR0J4N]

this comment encapsulates my thoughts about it

[@couriersix2443]

My old 2600K @ 5Ghz curb stomped my friend’s 7350K into oblivion haha. Also two of my other friends’ 6600Ks (but one of them ended up upgrading to a R7 2700X whereas I went with a R5 2600 at the time) Edit: It’s funny to think about how these days CPUs like the 14700K have 8 super-fast hyper-threaded cores, with (basically) 3x i5-7600Ks slapped on top.

[@CrocoDylianVT]

​@@lharsayeven a 4th gen i7 hold up better than 6th and 7th gen

[@NatInTheHat49]

Me still using a dual core even today right in the feels (dont worry its just a internet browser 4th laptop i3)

[@tinsleyng2235]

I‘d rather choosing the 3570K then the 7350K.

[@CrocoDylianVT]

Rather a 4th gen i5, 4th gen has features 3th lacks of to run modern games

[@RuruFIN]

@@CrocoDylianVT I think he said 3570K on purpose as it has the same numbers but in different order than 7350K.

[@charlesg5085]

Lol I was thinking my 3770k probably beats this.

[@alexanderunknown8605]

and getting miserable single core IPC LOL

[@Trick-Framed]

That intro was HILARIOUS. Intel never took a beating in 2017. Sure, Zen was released, but the only people with them were first adopters and enthusiasts. Few ordinary people bought one. They were too busy buying OEM Intel/Nvidia machines. I would know I was one of them. However I returned that machine and went used Intel instead of Ryzen. Why? The i7 3770 I built had the same single core as the R5 1600 or 1500X that I would have bought instead. The RAM was cheaper as it was DDR3 which I already had 16GB of. The only thing I had to buy was the motherboard. I Settled on an Intel Q77 with mSata. It was fast to boot and my SSD held my games after that. It was a win win for me coming from an FX 8350. The Ryzen path or new Intel would have included DDR4 on top of that and I never would have been able to swing a deal to get the i7 for free like I did with the i7 3770 so for me at the time it made sense. This processor you are showcasing, makes no sense but is an excellent watch and fun video. Thank You.

[@GLDragon93]

4:55 Did you get your hands on one of those Xeon Mobile and ES cpus (soldered for LGA 1151 socket) that Miyconst like to affectionally call "mutant"?

[@IcebergTech]

No, the current plan is to try the Coffee Time mod. Those mutants are my backup plan.

[@GLDragon93]

​@@IcebergTech Right! Not sure why I've thought of the difficult option first. Btw, I've noticed a few Xeon E3 1240 V6 (i7 7700) and V5 (i7 6700) going for cheap on Ebay. The v6 at 55€ (40+15 postage) and the v5 with a larger stock/listings for about 40ish.

[@Josh-cw8by]

At the time, the rational man in me said "this is a horrible value" The fiscally irresponsible overclocker in me said "It's so cool. I want to tweak it for hours and hours"

[@hiii4805]

7th gen laptops sold for rlly cheap tho

[@marisakirisame867]

Not at my country

[@Al3ksandrOrlov]

ahhh, 6 years ago, I remember the G4560, 8GB DDR4 & 1050Ti builds well

[@hananas2]

Being a fond i3 6100 enjoyer at that time, I thought the 7350K was super cool but totally impractical due to the price of Z motherboards and the price of the CPU itself.

[@jamesdavies686]

Mind you, Intel also released a 4 core 4 thread HEDT chip.

[@takehirolol5962]

Yeah, the i3 6100 was good enough, but oh boy...I was so wrong. Then moved to Ryzen 5 2600, now using a 5600x.

[@ArtisChronicles]

​@@jamesdavies686 that was a cursed processor too...

[@harleyn3089]

In the used market these are pretty fun. I got an i3-6300 for $10, along with a Z270 mini PC motherboard for $25. The i3-6300 has a base clock of 3.8 Ghz, so it does really well for lightly threaded tasks.

[@edussantoz9034]

synce AMD realeased Ryzen Intel is a no go for budget builds. Intel was a JOKE, double the price for half the performance.

[@thoughtisenergy]

i loved this processor simply for being weird. ended up building it into a node 202 with a gtx 1060 3-gigabyte for the ultimate kneecapped rig.

[@b0tatrot681]

Lmao golden

[@happybuggy1582]

Oh boy

[@Ryzard]

Shoulda gone for the 1030(to?)tbh

[@tyler6602]

​@@Ryzard nah atleast put a 1050

[@Ryzard]

@@tyler6602 I mean for a kneecapped rig, the 1030 fits.

[@Elomentoplayz]

7:35 At least the GPU is only consuming like 9 watt of power!

[@01RIE01]

Awesome video again! About the outro, I don't get how the 6700k and 7700k stay so expensive (60+ euros/dollars/pounds ) on the used market. You can have a cheaper R5 3600 (they sell for around 50 euros here in the Netherlands) with a cheaper B350/B450 motherboard. It honestly baffles me.

[@ArtisChronicles]

I7s and a lot of Nvidia GPUs always carry a weird premium. Usually xeons are where the price for the performance really shines when it comes to used hardware. True on the used Ryzens as you've mentioned as well.

[@Liinuli.]

Like other said people overvaluing i7's. But other part of it is, that a 6700k or a 7700k is the best cpu you can put if you are still stuck in a skylake/kabylake lga 1151 motherboard. While upgrading to a better cpu from an another platform may be cheaper than getting a 7700k. But it would also mean you'd need to get a new motherboard and maybe even ram. That's why a used i9 9900k costs same as a new i7 12700k. Because the i9 9900k is the best cpu you can put in that cofeelake lga 1151 motherboard. So if someone bought a Z390 motherboard for his i5 9600k, and now wants to upgrade his cpu. Rather than buying the 12700k and a new Z690 motherboard, he gets just the 9900k.

[@alexanderunknown8605]

same as 20+ yo MB S class or BMW 7 series... or old iPhones and Macbooks... BRAND...

[@asbani07]

what an amazing production skill you have. i hope you'll become big one day man. you really deserve it

[@problematic3255]

okay hear me out, that little dual core is using FIFTY PERCENT of that 6900xt. Frame time graphs be damned that is IMPRESSIVE if I do say so myself ( 4:23 )

[@nicekeyboardalan6972]

i3-7350K on LGA 2066????? Now thats a cursed CPU!

[@euX222X]

When a REALLY BAD 5H1T LIKE optimized game as Starfield runs better than a "competitive" game, we have a problem, Warzone is shame as game, but, console experience with a dual-core CPU it's not bad at all, I can't tell that CPU configuration is dead, we have the Intel's E-core to save that CPU configuration, we don't have 2 core CPU with 4 E-core to compare, but for sure they'll work really good in actual 5H1TTY bad optimized games...

[@oddf3llow]

I ended up with one of these in a second-hand Z270 motherboard. I thought it'd be horrible, and would need instantly replacing but, it's actually okay*. I was going to replace it with a i7 6700k, but I've hung on to it for a lot longer than I thought I would. I'm actually thinking of doing a Coffee Time bios hack and getting a 6 core i5 instead. *considering I only have a GTX970

[@FenixQubes]

I expected much worse. This was actually kinda usable for a time.

[@Remyie]

if only intel didn't limit overclocking to z motherboard

[@lharsay]

At least since then thay unlocked XMP for B series as well.

[@Schattennebel]

Sadly OC was limited to Z-Boards after the End of P-Boards.

[@raynel8495]

@10:06 Manhattan looks like a post apocolyptic ruined city. 🤣

[@lanelesic]

For me quad cores are history as well. I wouldnt get a dual core now apart from some legacy windows XP computer or something.

[@ShortHandedNow]

As with most Kaby Lake "K" parts the 5Ghz OC becomes unattainable after 3-4 years. The chips age and anything over 4.7-4.8Ghz becomes unstable. (Had a 5.1Ghz 7700k which by the time of me selling it could only do 4.8Ghz in a semi stable fashion.)

[@alexg9155]

Skylake was the same. Ran my 6700K for 2 years at 4.7ghz easily, then I had to drop it to 4.6ghz. By the time I sold it a few months ago it was barely running 4.5ghz at 1.35V.

[@si1v3r352]

my fossil 7700K is still at 5Ghz stable that has been at that setting since new [2017]

[@adamhafiddin9564]

Those 7360x, a dual core on lga 2066 sure looks spicy

[@GordosTacoShop]

I have one of these! I got it on a combo deal at micro center with a zseries mobo for $99 usd. This cpu carried me until zen 3. I mostly emulate and I had my i3 at 5.2ghz, so I wasn’t hurting with games that were single thread intensive.

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

Jesus Christ 5.2 how tf????

[@GordosTacoShop]

lucky binning I s'pose. I'm not exactly a talented OCer. I just had a cryorig H7 on it with regular old MX5 paste. Usually topped out at 75C or so, but typically ran in the 60s. completely stable @@xavierrodriguez2463

[@coreyisabigpushover]

Incredibly bad value when you consider the Pentium G4560 also existed alongside this i3 which was also 2 core/4 thread and could be paired with a dirt cheap motherboard making a great budget PC at the time.

[@SIPEROTH]

I always laugh at how naïve ebay resellers are on what they got. For example because this CPU was quite pricy for what it offered and they bought it much more expensive that it was worth they refuse to now sell it for what is actually worth simply because they paid too much when they bought it and they can't accept they just made a bad buy and sell it for the $10-15 that is actually worth right now.

[@fireball2275]

That would still murder my laptops miserable ryzen 2500u limited to 5 watts, made for “gaming”

[@peterpan408]

Check your BIOS. You might be able to change it to Performance. This will run it hotter at the cost of battery life. Want it to last all day? Or give as much as it's got for 4-hours?

[@thomaswest2583]

The I3 7350k did better than i thought it would.

[@jose2822]

It looks like a processor made for crysis.

[@zachattack114]

I don't see any reason your channel won't be taking off real soon. Top quality content right here.

[@jericosangbaan4688]

I remember when this came out, I was rocking a core i7 5820k 6core 12thread, overclocked at 4.5ghz all core, and was amazed by this and almost switched to it's predecessor (yes, it had lol) the core i3 8350k. Made the right choice by choosing the core i7 8700k, still rocking it today with an rtx 3070

[@Ryzard]

This even existing is wacky to me, especially in 2023. I've been grabbing 6 core Ryzen cpus for my friends for 40-60 dollars easily on ebay, and am4 can upgrade all the way to the 5800x3d (potentially a 5900x3d if they keep going up) so... Why would I buy an out of date intel mobo for this when I can find better cpus with motherboards in dell/asus/hp office pcs from that time?

[@ninjafrozr8809]

It's crazy that an overclocked i3 7350K has %20 faster single core performance than my i5 10400 (according to CPU-Z benchmark). Thank god i have 12 threads.

[@VascovanZeller]

We in 2023 have the benefit of knowing the full range of possibilities of the AM4 platform. No budget conscious person buying used should ever consider intel. A cheap b350 can run anything from a 1600 to a 5800x3d, all while using the same RAM and cooler.

[@radualex4498]

Man this cpu is so bad even more in 2023 with all the bad optimiztion at this point i think amd is the only solution for friendly buget gaming cpu i got myself a rx6700xt and i ha a R5 2600x it was ok more than enough for the rx580 I had but with the upgrade the RX6700xt I could not use it at maximum 60%-85% and i got a R5 5600x and now i get alot more fps but still some god dam games and their bad optimizations I used the benchmark in cyberpunk with high settings from 72 fps to 99 fps from just upgarding I kind of regret that I didn't buy R7 5800x and it was just 40$ more i still get cpu bottleneck some times at 1080p and I wanted to get an rx6800xt initially but I got a good price, all components I bought second hand and paid for the rx6700xt 220$ and got the reference card it was like new very little used and for the cpu was 120$ where new was 160 $ and i sold my old cpu and gpu for 100$ and basically i got the cpu for 20$ but that rx6800xt dam is so muche faster i regret but it was much more expensive even for second hand it was around 380-400$ so around double the price for 25%-40% more performance i play at 1080p so is ok i play with a 80hz monitor is enough for me but some new games are going to destroy this gpu i hope the vram last me a few years

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

The 8350K was something I looked at as an upgrade for my 3570K but ended up waiting and getting the 9700K even the 8350K makes very little sense with 4 cores/ 4Threads the 7350K with 2/4 makes no sense.

[@mistermystery819]

Intel is their own biggest enemy if they just kept innovating instead of stagnating AMD wouldn't have been able catch Intel off Guard with the Ryzen Series CPU's now intel has competition that is really kicking their ass Price/performance wise.

[@pptemplar5840]

This seems like a 90's Honda Civic without a ECU The fact that it can be overclocked seems like a manufacturing error more than a feature.

[@erikbritz8095]

*Yeah dual cores are a bit rough on 2023*

[@delleron1106]

Im chilled on a i3 4150 after i got an rx 6400 i upgradet to an xeon e3 1225 v3 now im chilling on that i dont play new games (in some games like minecraft i seen hight fps even on the old cpu i was able to peak at 9k fps normal fps was 700-2000)

[@Reaver9021]

I heard jedi survivor is very hard on imc of the cpu. So it is quite probable weak imc of 7350k cannot handle four channels memory to its fullest extend

[@dabombinablemi6188]

It overclocked as high as my i7 4790K...and at the same voltage. Yeah those i3 were a really stupid idea.

[@theexile4694]

"Shader Warning" Lol. Yeah compile the shaders before you play.

[@OrkishEngineering]

imagine an i3 14100k. 4 p cores, 2 e cores, and overclocking! the e cores could help offset the issues of a quad core!

[@moxe6841]

I say If old xeons could be overclocked freely theyd prolly be on par with 9th gen i7s(xeon 2699 v4 and wtv)

[@kartikgupta9117]

while i game on an i5 7200 U (dual core) ╥﹏╥ (heavily debloated windows 10)(atlas os)

[@classic_jam]

This doesn't instill much confidence in my 12-core Phenom Opteron Overclocked testing I plan on doing next month. Not to mention the lack of instructions.

[@MichaelFlatman]

i3 7360x (and other KBL X chips) deserve a video on their own look at the spec sheet you showed at 1:15 2c/4t ... 112w TDP (!!) $220 launch rather than $170 7350k

[@slimshady_7977]

i dont care about 7350K but rather more interesting is i3 7360X , a dual core X299 cpu :D 1:14

[@someguy3186]

One of the reasons why AMD went from almost dead to overtaking Intel in market cap.

[@Craig-wh3ut]

yo bro why does my i3 7350k only draw 35watts on 100% load in game?

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

I had completely erased every trace of that wretched excuse of a CPU from my mind. I won't watch the video. I don't need to.

[@al-hakimbi-amrallah5404]

Im still gaming on an i3 in 2023 and my gpu is still my bottleneck

[@Elomentoplayz]

Not all i3s are built the same, yours Is pretty decent the i3 7350k is way worse though

[@Azureskies01]

Well if you only play Doom Eternal at 8k that will happen.

[@bagasfabianmaulana]

I mean, 10100f, 12100f and 13100f are quite good for budget gaming till now. But i3 below those generations, quad cores no HT and dual cores really struggle these days.

[@lharsay]

@@bagasfabianmaulana Even the 10100 struggles, the memory speed being locked at 2666MHz (unless you have a B560 or Z series board) combined with the 6MB L3 cache hurts it a lot. 12th gen got 5 times more L2 and twice as much L3 cache with support for faster memory.

[@al-hakimbi-amrallah5404]

@bagasfabianmaulana I am infact using an i3 12100f. So yeah... much more modern. I wonder how future-proof my cpu is.

[@PhilippJanusch]

only good gen7 cpu was the pentium 4560, also 2core but the 1st with ht

[@memeplayer1923]

The only argument left is Can it Run Crysis? Yeah, the OG Crysis is still available on GOG.

[@pham3383]

Dual cores are still fine for any job beside gaming(light video edit is still fine

[@GewelReal]

Even as a piece of history I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. What a disgrace of a CPU

[@FunkyTechy]

I take this and the i3-8350k to 5ghz on pcbs2 lol makes for a great budget rig

[@Fernando-Rodriguez]

what a pointless product, they probably wanted to get rid of their faulty i7s by disabling a two cores

[@selohcin]

This was always one of the worst CPUs to ever exist. It aged exactly as well as I expected it to.

[@lovegamesandtrains3194]

can we all take into consideration the 6900xt isnt doing anything this entire video

[@brentw8365]

All of Intel's 1st gen core series could be overclocked, but good LGA 1156 motherboards are hard to find at the right price.

[@OberstStein]

I am still waiting for the high clock Intel Single-Core CPU that they promised a long time ago.

[@Blinkhs1]

Hey Iceberg, what would be your opinion on the rumored rtx 3050 6gb which would be 75w and no external power connectors? Pairing it with a 4th gen i7 maybe?

[@IcebergTech]

I mean, that sounds a lot like an A2000 to be honest, and plenty of people liked that card for low profile or low power systems. The main reason I've left the A2000 alone so far is that it's too expensive for me, so it comes in under - say - $180, then it might be interesting. As for a 4th gen i7, that pairing would probably be okay for 60 FPS in older AAA games, but in this year's titles it might be worth looking into an upgrade to something newer.

[@Blinkhs1]

@@IcebergTech yeah i get what you mean, maybe with a 7700 system and the 3050 6gb at the right price could make a lot of sense as a kinda new 750ti

[@actuallycantdoanything8179]

​@@IcebergTechspeaking of budget tier graphics cards what do you think of the Arc A580? I think it would make for pretty good all new budget build, if it wasn't for the A750 and the RX 6600 that can be found for not much more Also will you ever do a video about it?

[@IcebergTech]

@@actuallycantdoanything8179 It doesn't exist in the UK right now. There's one overpriced import listed on Amazon and that's it. I'd love to review one, if I could.

[@Elomentoplayz]

sounds like they're trying to cram my laptop GPU into a actual GPU. lol

[@teaspoon966]

I didn't even know it existed. Wow such a lemon even in context...

[@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg]

My i3 6300 did it's time and I replaced it with a ryzen 5800x 3 years ago

[@Jakeyythetr]

You can also get a R5 2600 for around $40 which is eons ahead of this thing and can still play modern games.

[@SIPEROTH]

Dude i bought a Ryzen 4500 new with a cooler in the box for $60. AMD has been selling those for really cheap for some time now, they are the cheapest CPU's AMD is selling but they still perform close to a Ryzen 3600. So they are still a bargain.

[@techonthebrain6938]

Those were the days, my builds first CPU Was a 200GE Using the intergrated graphics, 15 FPS In ESports tittles was common, still it was a great CPU Just to get building experience, great video

[@Trick-Framed]

An eye out for an experiment you say? I say I see a coffee time video coming soon.

[@threzz3]

Main cpu an i5 6600 Stiller Good in this year :D

[@Sithhy]

A high-clocking dual core? Perfect for original Crysis

[@SupraSav]

Dual core lol.. Ah, 2006 was a good time.

[@green90s]

When I can't end task a game/app/etc, I press Win+Tab, put the app in question on the second virtual desktop and return to the first one. Now you can see the task manager there and can proceed with force closing the game as you would. Hope this helps someone somewhere.

[@IcebergTech]

Thanks, I'll bear that in mind

[@ZixaphirMoxphar]

The Lindsay Ellis reference was beautiful

[@Mini-z1994]

Not gonna lie, i had forgotten about this chip lol.

[@lashyndragon]

A moment of silence for those who didn't go AM4

[@JoseLgamer05]

I had no idea this cpu existed, not that it has any reason to exist.

[@syedsajjadraza5249]

My i7-2820QM is better than this CPU

[@Al3ksandrOrlov]

Greg Salazar did a video on this CPU too, he called its existence stupid, he was correct

[@IcebergTech]

Was it the 7350K he used as a box opener? Or the 8350K?

[@Toa2356]

right after your vid, only one is left on ebay

[@romankozlovskiy7899]

2000-2009 Dual core cpus are okay for gaming, 2010-2016 Quad cores for the win, 2017-2019 6-8 cores needed, 2023+ 16 cores ideally if you want the most fps with the 4090, 4080 Etc

[@SIPEROTH]

I think you went with inflated specs. I mean if we are talking okay for gaming instead of absolutely top performance then you don't need such specs. You could play with a Dual core until 2012. From 2012-2018 4 cores were enough to get by. 2018-2023 is 6 cores because even now you can play every game with a good 6 core. I'll say 2024 to 2030 you will need 8 core CPU's and i see 16 cores becoming a necessity for gaming after 2030. Right now modern consoles are 8 cores so i see game developers focusing on utilizing mostly 8 cores. I imagine this consoles will be replaced at around 2028 with new 16 core CPU's under the hoot. At that point is game developers with try to jump to 16 cores by fully utilizing console hardware. Add to that a 2 year delay for the 16 core focused games to start appearing and around 2030 is a good guess.

[@sklynexd]

amazing loud music I always dance on it

[@YTSZAZU]

Are you willing to try out the amernime drivers polaris/Vega/RDNA AFMF drivers? (edit post since I can't reply : I tried it out, Rx 470 no AFMF)

[@IcebergTech]

I'm thinking about making something about AFMF, but I'm not 100% sure what it will be just yet.

[@jshico3417]

$170 launch price dual core xd

[@mclarenf1gtr99]

Well, if your programs only need 2 cores but maximum frequency then it made sense as it was quite cheaper than K i5 or i7.

[@Liinuli.]

@@mclarenf1gtr99 Yeah but in hindsight the 182$ locked i5-7400 would have been a much better deal. Without even talking about the Ryzen options.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

that shit now costs as used as some r5 2600 or more

[@kevinvanneste2500]

I know a person that said why are you buying a r5 1600 amd .... buy a intel 7350k or 7400 for your pc so much better for gaming 😂😂😂 I upgraded my cpu 2 times to a 2700x and now 5700x 🎉🎉🎉 experiment z170 or z270 bios an mod for 8gen and sometimes 9gen

[@dabarbequeman]

Hey :) A little question, maybe you can do a test of the i7-7700k with a Asus Strix 1080 GTX.... would be interesting how it keeps up with 2023 :) best wishes Mark

[@Xamiakass]

intel2310,phenom 9650, intel 3570k@4.5ghz perma, 3900x@4100. amd has always seemed like a better score. thouggh, i have to admit: either i was just lucky in the sillicon lottery or 3570k was just THAT good... but that thing ran 4.5ghz perma OC for about 8 years... respect, where it's due. bought the 3900x literally on the day of release. yes, i know,... it really was a mistake and i had to rma my original cpu... took amd about 8 months to send a new one (amd, die in a F ditch), but since then... the replacement i reaceived was just a treat. honestly. currently, running the thing at mobo set of 4ghz and -1.625v offset.temps did not make a diff, but the system have had developed a more static performance. i do not know if 3900x is as rigid in general or i am just that unlucky.... but about a month ago i bought my dearest a 5700x and... mine still poops on her's... go figure, right?

[@ronnie3626]

I actually just found a reasonable priced PC with i3 7350K and Asrock Z170 Extreme 6+, 120gb ssd and Pure Power 11 500w, other specs are unknown. It was the only offer since months, very rare cpu here. I basically only care about the cpu + mobo, hope it arrives next week and achieves 5GHz

[@couriersix2443]

Intel was still skimping on core/threads per dollar (all the way up to Comet Lake if we’re being honest), which is why the 7350K was admittedly “poor value” even at launch. The immediate successor(s) to it (8350K/9350K) were at least effectively what i5s had been for so many years with 4c/4t total. Which put them in direct competition with the R3 1200, 2200G/3200G, and 2300X (since the 3100 & 3300X had SMT, those were closer to what would eventually be known as the 10100). Either way no quad-core whether hyper-threaded or not is really worth it in 2023; there’s just an abundance of older 6 & 8-core options to choose from that offer far better value

[@Wooksley]

Who came up with this idea I wonder? It’s overclockable, but you need to pay extra for your mobo. Or alternatively you could oh idk, buy a non-overclockable i5 with a cheaper board for basically the same price and have way more performance. Thanks, Intel.

[@vstxp]

Even if you buy a Ryzen 1st Gen, you can potentially keep the same MoBo to later do an upgrade all the way up to a freaking 5800X3D!!! After seeing the scores on your channel and the prices, it is better to go for used early Ryzens if you go for an ultra budget rig. This CPU has no reason to be sold at such high prices, and this platform is dust... Plus, a prebuilt with an i5 of that era would cost less than a fully custom build and beat it easily.

[@main_tak_becus6689]

I loved my G4560 back then, the best budget CPU. Moved to Ryzen 5 2600 for gaming not long after release but it was a dissapoinment. I still dunno what will my new build be in the next few years. Don't need a PC for the foreseeable future.

[@boneman1210]

@Iceberg Tech, can you also look into the a8 - 9600 or a-10 9700 am4 apu's the last hurrah for the A series APU's hahaha

[@3pokrobloxvideos456]

I want to build a secound pc under 200 euros and I am thinking should I go 6th Gen bad motherboard cheap AM4 something or 3/4th Gen i7 k cpus

[@schifferu]

would like to see a video on AMD's A12-9800 :D (it sucks btw lol)

[@edussantoz9034]

well it was a APU by the way, even today APUS sacrifice processing power to have the iGPU it was a litle better now but they are not as good as CPU only solutions. AMD CPU with final G runs slower than non-G. even the intel CPUs with the final F runs a litle faster than non-F

[@Reknilador]

I cant figure out how you ran AC Origins that smoothly. It was a stuttery mess on my i5 4690k at the time, I even had it OCd to 4.4 ghz all core, i had enough ram (16gb), not sure why it was unplayable..

[@TheeSurfer]

What region are you from in england?

[@IcebergTech]

West Mids

[@TheeSurfer]

@@IcebergTech oh I thought you lived closer but no worries it's cause I wanted you to do a Collab with random gaminginHD one day he's from Kent and makes amazing content like you.

[@256sergi]

Please, consume from the wall while playing is very useful. Thanks for ghe video.

[@bionicseaserpent]

ice:"dual cores are dead" Me: 😭

[@jimtekkit]

Not sure about anyone else, but even back in 2017 I didn't know any "enthusiasts" with even a remote interest in dual cores.

[@micahottaway8455]

Well, the AM4 platform really shook things up. It's actually a much better market because now there is competition. At that point, Intel didn't quite know what hit them yet, and the release of the Core i3 7350K showed a truly dazed and blinkered state.