What REALLY Swallowed Jonah?

[@Hydroverse]

Imagine getting swallowed by Leviathan.

[@icrscience]

I don't want to and you can't make me.

[@annep.1905]

😂@@icrscience

[@Desertflower743]

I’d rather not. Let’s think of a field of daisies instead la, la, laaa ❤

[@zaharishtonov]

I can’t. Never seen one before 😋

[@johncollins8304]

@@zaharishtonov God hadn't seen one before. ...before he imagined it... before he used his imagination; which sheds a little light on what 'made in God's image' means. And, imag-e ... imag-ination.

[@biblesbarbells]

I love that ICR charges directly into the issues that many others tip-toe around: Deep time, Jonah, Noah, etc. Don't be shy: Be ready to give a defense. Don't give secular evolutionists an inch: Stand firm on the word of God.

[@1969cmp]

As a former materialistic evolutionist and an atheist, I concur. Be tooled up and with wisdom and tact, stand firm.

[@fireballxl-5748]

ICR does nothing of the sort. It melds science (so called) with God's word. It is a consistent error of ICR and AIG. Just a year ago a whale swallowed a man. Look it up. Wasn't three days....only a day but do you really need more?

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

Amen

[@paul-u2y9y]

AMEN.

[@dedewatlington7080]

How do you spell that word -dog headed sea serpent?

[@jonathanbutson1385]

when i was at university in the 1990's studying ocean science, my lecturer (who believed in a 4 billion year old earth and evolution) showed us an old black and white pic of an African fisherman from the Indian ocean coast of Africa. He had fallen off his fishing boat into the ocean. He was swallowed by a whale shark (the biggest living shark, it feeds on plankton) He had remained in-side the whale shark for several hours. When he was puked up by the fish he survived, but his skin was bleached white, this was very apparent in the pic!

[@RelivitMedia]

GREAT video! I wanted to point out for consideration too that there were times in the Bible where people were put into "impossible survival" situations, but did in fact survive. One Example: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the furnace with the fire seven times hotter than normal. They miraculously survived without even smelling like smoke - Daniel 3:16-28. It is awesome to get intellectual evidence for Biblical stories - but no matter if Jonah died or not, survival in the stomach of an animal and/or being brought back to life are both miracles. :) I believe it is important for all of us who believe in Jesus and the Bible, to be cautious to understand that we may not always have answers that satisfy our logic or intellectual minds. There are often times with situations in our lives that God allows, that just do not make any sense and may not be understood in our lifetime on this earth. Never-the-less, God's Word (the Bible) it worthy to be trusted for so many reasons. It is awesome to see science research and study support the Bible, but always keep in mind that the Bible says in Hebrews 11:16, "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him". Thanks ICR for all you do! Press on!

[@deronsmith951]

Amen!

[@Desertflower743]

I’m really a fan of Dr Brian Thomas. The tone of his voice and the way he articulates makes him a very good speaker and lecturer. Once again I really enjoyed the broadcast 🇦🇺🦘Thank you from Melbourne, Australia.

[@alexanderlowhorn733]

Dr. Thomas has really been going at it on the ICR channel lately. Thanks for your hard work Dr. Thomas!

[@markoaks8694]

Jonah was spat upon the shore where many Ninevites saw him. The Ninevites (who were Assyrians) worshipped Dagon, the fish god, so when the Ninevites saw a fish spit out Johan, they thought he was a god. That is why they listened to him and believed. Yahweh already knew that and that was Yahweh's plan all along. Yahweh is all-seeing and all-knowing, and He has a since of humor. Jonah (yonah) is the Hebrew word for a dove.

[@Ameriachi-Iam]

Now this makes sense!

[@benkennington8941]

Well, remember that he still had to "arise and go" to Nineveh even after that incident. One doesn't get the impression that it was within sight.

[@bijou989]

Well then that defeats Yah's desire for the ninevites to repent; worship of Dagon was a major part of the sins of Nineveh. If they listened to Yonah because they thought he was some sort of avatar of Dagon then, then it would just reinforce their worship of their false elohim.

[@stevepierce6467]

Great story! Now I have some great tales about Paul Bunyan (spoiler alert: it was he, and not a flood, that dug the Grand Canyon).

[@Torby4096]

Maybe🤔

[@loricalass4068]

I have often wondered why the people of Nineveh took Jonah so seriously when he said their nation was about to be destroyed. Of course, in the Bible, we often get the shortened versions. But some have suggested that when Jonah exited the fish, or whale, or whatever it was, his skin was mottled and patchy from the digestive juices of the animal. This could help get peoples attention. There is at least one case of a man swallowed by a sperm whale, who managed to survive, but looked pretty strange for the rest of his life. Also, since Nineva worshiped a sea creature god, someone seen and reported to emerge from a sea creature would be enough to get everybody’s attention.

[@KristyBichler-ym9nk]

The Solar Eclipse crosses through multiple towns named Neveah. In the JerUSAlem.

[@ichtudurwehblah]

That's a pretty good example

[@bradrochow9181]

A whale shark has a huge mouth (6x8 feet), they follow fishing boats and inhale fish etc. after digesting the meal, they vomit the remnants of their stomach near the shore. They can and have been known to swallow people. God can use his creation for his own purposes. Timing is key to see miracles. Jonah was vomited up on the shore.

[@stuartofblyth]

Thank you, Dr Thomas! Many think Jonah went to deliver a message of repentance, but this is not so as you rightly say. I summarise it as "Yet 40 days and you get yours!". This explains why the king asked "Who can tell if God will turn and relent, and turn away from His fierce anger, so that we may not perish?" It also explains why Jonah was hopping mad in Chapter 4. He was called to preach that judgement is coming but knew that if the Ninevites DID repent then God would not carry it through, and Jonah would be shown to be a false prophet. That's why he fled in the first place. "Didn’t I say before I left home that you would do this, LORD? That is why I ran away to Tarshish! I knew that you are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. You are eager to turn back from destroying people. Just kill me now, LORD! I’d rather be dead than alive if what I predicted will not happen" (NLT). I'm one of those who believe Jonah died, too.

[@ethanheyne]

Jonah's message to the Ninevites was 5 words, if I remember right. And yes, that's very much what it meant, but with a twist. The word for "overturned" was sometimes used the way we say "turn over a new leaf." So, whether Ninevah repented or perished, Jonah's message would remain true.

[@andrewp.schubert2417]

Thank you for this great program. 🙏 God created all living creatures on this earth.

[@muppetonmeds]

The Bible says God prepared a fish for Jonah this means he created a fish that specifically was designed to accomplish what it did.

[@djmacmillan1]

The Hebrew word translates into dragon.

[@krakoosh1]

So you’re saying when God said He from all of His creation on day 6, that he lied?

[@muppetonmeds]

@@krakoosh1 Didn't Jesus by using the power of God create fish to feed the multitude? So once again God created fish and life.

[@krakoosh1]

@@muppetonmeds the fish weren’t alive and God could have used fish already in the sea and used his power to kill and cook them and put in the basket

[@TgWags69]

Prepared is past tense, he could have prepared it during creation weak no problems. But later on in Jonah where God CAUSED a vine to grow above Jonah in one day speaks to a miracle type creation. There is no problem for God working within his creation. When he says he rested, it means that creation was accomplished and isn't an ongoing process i.e. evolution. This isn't to say the God cannot step into his creation and accomplish his purpose any time he well pleases. He's not a tame lion after all! Dont fall into the trap of Job's friends and try to put God in a box and tell HIM how he should behave according to you.

[@jamesmecham4266]

Fascinating and informative. Thank you!

[@christiansaint716]

I had another thought on this. I'm not sure if it really matters whether it was a whale or a sea serpent. They're both really big creatures. To me, the bottom line is that a very large creature swallowed Jonah and then vomited him up on the beach. I'm not sure of the reference atm, but there is a reference to this in the Psalms.

[@VanyaD]

The mention of the dog-headed sea creature had me thinking about an Orthodox saint, St. Christopher, who is portrayed in icons as a dog-headed person. He is connected to water and is said to protect sailors.

[@JS-uy8wc]

A short lesson in Greek pronunciation. Ketos is pronounced with a long ‘e’. Thus, say Key-tos (κήτος). Sarcophagus (σαρκοφάγος) literally breaks down into: sarka, which means flesh and fagos, which means ‘to eat’. Thus a sarcophagus is literally a ‘flesh eater’. Yes, I am a native Greek, a believer and one who holds to a young earth belief. ICR has provided me with very valuable tools. Thank you.

[@frankebell2383]

Very interesting! Thank You I.C.R. !

[@user-gx3st2th8q]

The ketas looks like the gods depicted in the movie El Dorado. Fascinating to know it is documented in culture before and after in extra biblical sources

[@pauldickens5246]

The Ninevites worshipped a "God" that was a large fish, so God showed his connection by giving Jonah a form of transportation that matched his destination. Too cool!

[@annep.1905]

Chinese Dragons look like Dog-headed sea serpents...

[@susanoanderson]

“Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.." -John 17:17 (KJV) ***Jesus was referring to duration. Jonah’s deliverance came after three days and nights had passed, providing a foreshadowing of Jesus’ resurrection: Matthew 12:40 (NLT) "For as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights." Jonah’s Prayer (NLT) Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from inside the fish. He said, “I cried out to the Lord in my great trouble, and he answered me. I called to you from the land of the dead,[b] and Lord, you heard me! You threw me into the ocean depths, and I sank down to the heart of the sea. The mighty waters engulfed me; I was buried beneath your wild and stormy waves. Then I said, ‘O Lord, you have driven me from your presence. Yet I will look once more toward your holy Temple.’ “I sank beneath the waves, and the waters closed over me. Seaweed wrapped itself around my head. I sank down to the very roots of the mountains. I was imprisoned in the earth, whose gates lock shut forever. But you, O Lord my God, snatched me from the jaws of death! As my life was slipping away, I remembered the Lord. And my earnest prayer went out to you in your holy Temple. Those who worship false gods turn their backs on all God’s mercies. But I will offer sacrifices to you with songs of praise, and I will fulfill all my vows. For my salvation comes from the Lord alone.” Then the Lord ordered the fish to spit Jonah out onto the beach.

[@cindland]

I can’t thank you enough for doing these broadcasts ! I still remember my mother telling me in Episcopal Sunday school that the story of the whale was made up to teach a lesson and a man couldn’t fit inside a whale. 🤦‍♀️ in addition, she told my young teen self that the Bible was stories that men made up and wrote down to explain God to us. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ the sad part is she spent her entire life going to church and being involved in Church ministries.😢 Many years later when I finally gave my life over to Jesus at age 40, I learned AND acknowledged that GOD is bigger and smarter than all of us and knows everything. And the Bible was GOD’S word written down by men. Not their words. However I do get how translations caused by “modern day” politics and definitions and changes in language have affected the true meaning in HIS words. I’m so disappointed that my mother didn’t instead teach me a true faith in Jesus to give over all my woes and everything else in life. God is sovereign however nac he knew my oath to him, and I wouldn’t have met my husband when I did if I had led a different albeit somewhat easier path to HIS love and grace and forgiveness.

[@dpbierman2586]

Totally agree with you about Jonah being dead... Jonah 2:2 confirms it. Great programme and discussion... I think it was a whale shark that swallowed Jonah for 3 reasons: 1: Whale sharks are plenty big enough to swallow a human and does not have the filter system in their mouth like whales. 2: A Whale shark is a fish... 3: A Whale Shark regurgitates all the undigested food after 3 days..

[@ohanlojh]

Good point about the belly of sheol but that could be easily a figure of speech. The rest of the chapter seems to me more likely he was alive and suffering.

[@kennethjones500]

The book of Jonah says he was at the bottom of the mountains the depth of the med. sea is more than 5 miles the avg. depth is 4900 ft. And he was talking to God while in the belly of the fish, the average whale must surface about once an hour for air and a fish does not have to surface it has gills

[@sharidandan4172]

Also the fact that when someone dies there memory is gone and they neither praise or curse God. There is no consciousness in death until the return of Christ and the resurrection

[@jerrygaines4720]

So very grateful for the ongoing ministry at ICR! Please know that your efforts are effectively equipping and encouraging fellow believers to share the truth of God's Word!

[@surrenderdaily333]

The narrative of Jonah doesn't say he "lived" inside a fish for three days, as the young lady states in the beginning of the program. It just says he was IN the belly of the fish for three days. Whether he was alive or dead during those three days is a matter of controversy. Some people claim it's a matter of the way the narrative is presented, because it says, "Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights," and then goes onto talk about his experience and prayer. But that can also be interpreted as a common writer's method, much like newspaper headlines do today, where it gives the headline, "Jonah in fishes belly three days and nights!" and then goes in back of the story to show what happened prior to the headline. It's my understanding that there are two fish currently living that could have easily swallowed Jonah. I'd have to look up the names of them. Jesus verified the authenticity of the account because apparently there were doubters in in His day and that's the only verification needed to support the actual truth of the account. Also, Jonah was verified as a real person in the historical book of 2 Kings 14:25 where he is mentioned, so people who think Jonah was just a fictional character are confronted with evidence of his reality and I believe God did that on purpose.

[@anarchorepublican5954]

Jonah died ..we a told..he cried to the LORD from Sheol 【Jonah 2:2】....the place of dead spirits...that settles the argument ..the living can never go to Sheol/Hades..

[@surrenderdaily333]

@@anarchorepublican5954 I never said he was alive. Pick an argument with someone who disagees with you or better yet, create your own comment and leave other people alone. I know Jonah was dead. All I said was that there was a controversy about it.

[@muppetonmeds]

The Bible says God prepared a fish for Jonah this means he created a fish that specifically was designed to accomplish what it did.

[@anarchorepublican5954]

@@surrenderdaily333 .... Nope.. you didn't say Jonah, was alive in the Whale (and it was a whale) ..and I never said you did...so ...Nope (again).. I didn't pick an argument...Had I, trust me, you would know, if I did. ..Rather in fact, I was backing you up..with facts ...there should be no controversy..."Sheol" is the place of the dead...and from this verse we know, the dead not only go there..but, are also when there, the dead have some form of conscious...that's why it "controversial"- it clearly implies life after death in the Old Testament...and that is also why Jesus used Jonah as a proof text..and "a Sign"...

[@matt1699]

Lazarus is an example of what God can do. I love it when folks say "that settles it" as if they are absolutely correct. A feeble attempt to play God. You were right to dismiss the challenge.

[@MichaelBethel]

One of the most helpful statements in this podcast was pointing to the fact that Scripture does not say that Jonah was necessarily alive (though implied when he prayed to God) while in the ketos (I am assuming that his praying to God would have been with the fact that to be absent from the body is to be present with God). In fact for him to be dead and then restored to life after being spit out makes Jesus' use of Jonah even more tightly woven with His own death, burial, and resurrection. All of this information will be added to the tools I use teaching Sunday school. Thank you all for your faithfulness in ministering with the uncompromised Word of God.

[@sharidandan4172]

In death there is no praising God. The dead know nothing. And you miss quoted Paul in that verse. He didn't say to be absent from the body "is" to be present with God. The Bible makes it very clear that when someone dies they are waiting in the grave the bible calls it sleep until the resurrection. Either the resurrection of life or the resurrection of the wicked when hell fire rains down from God out of heaven on earth to destroy sin

[@trackinggod8087]

Fascinating discussion. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I had always thought it was probably a Megalodon. I lean against the idea that Jonah died and was resurrected for two reasons. One is that the book of Jonah says that God prepared a 'fish'. That would imply that it could be either a special creation or an alteration of something living at the time. Secondly, it is hard for me to imagine Jonah vividly describing the conditions he was living in and his prayers if he was dead. Finally, Jesus statement that he would be in the ground just like Jonah was in the belly of the whale does not necessarily imply that Jonah was dead. But of course, we will have to wait until Heaven to see which one of us is correct. God bless!

[@eugenetswong]

If I understand correctly, he didn't die instantly. So, he could have been alive long enough to experience the inside and still die.

[@trackinggod8087]

@@eugenetswong Certainly possible. But since God 'prepared' the fish, it is equally possible that He created a way to survive in it.

[@eugenetswong]

Well, I believe in miracles, so if I'm correct, then it's *DEFINITELY* possible. Q: did God let him die and experience the inside features of the belly? My answer: yes! He died just like the rich man and Lazaras, and came back to tell about it. @@trackinggod8087

[@googleuser3110]

The ocean is a large place. I think it very possible a dog headed sea serpent could be hidden there somewhere.

[@kcstafford2784]

i can tell Dr Thomas is strugeling keep going brother and thank you

[@BatMite19]

Imagine a country in which our schools were free to teach creation and evolution and let people choose for themselves what to believe. Is that too much to ask?

[@BatMite19]

@@sciencerules8525 Thank you, Mr. Self-righteous Denier of Free Thought.

[@cameronwalker294]

If you are a secular professor whose money and reputation both depend on evolution then, yes, it IS, because in short order you'd have no job.

[@maryjulius637]

Just to ask, if Jonah indeed died why does the bible say Jonah 2:1 [1] From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the Lord his God. ...

[@mathewrichards2713]

Jesus never said Jonah died, just that he was in the belly of the fish

[@graceyjewels7148]

I agree, I believe he was alive in that fish.

[@Ameriachi-Iam]

I lean more towards Jonah dying because he makes the symbolic reference of himself being three days in the tomb dead, and then resurrected. Jonah could have died while praying whether in the ocean or in some fish that swallowed him. His repentance saved him and God had the fish regurgitate him on the shores of Nineveh making them think he was Sent from Dagon, the fish God.

[@benkennington8941]

I find these attestations to the truth of the bible interesting, even encouraging, but regarding 24:12 etc., I didn't first get intellectually convinced of the trustworthiness of the bible then come to be born again, but rather when I got born again the Spirit within testified to the literal truth of the bible... and addicted me to it. It's true that I was saved in part through reading the bible one evening in anguish, but mental considerations as to its truth became irrelevant when God began speaking to me through it.

[@johndedden9759]

Yes makes sense as an aquatic biologist. To much stomach acid and he raised Lazarus on the 4th day when he stanketh

[@rickhuntling7338]

@johndedden9759 Amen. Jonah made Lazarus smell good on the 4th day. I love the details that prove the Bibles cohesion with hundreds of years in between. JESUS said like Jonah the SON of man shall be three days and nights in the heart of the earth. If you read carefully Jonah is sleeping below deck, obviously it's still dark of night. He prays 1st in the whale's belly during the night but next prayer is in the belly of hell. So he was not dead yet, but it could be just before the breaking of the dawn hence dead for 3.5 days like the two witnesses will be dead. The three days only for JESUS must be important, being "the sure mercies of David"; Isa. 55:3, Ps.16:10, Acts 13:34. HE, confirming the Everlasting Covenant with the many at the breaking of the dawn Resurrection Sunday after three day and nights. Jonah being the only sign the Jews will get, speaks 2000 years of JESUS after 3 days and nights grace and mercy was given to Gentile Nations like Nineveh.

[@johncollins8304]

Lovely. Thank you!

[@ladyofamerica507]

I love your podcast, thanks so much for offering your time. I now have a name that I can call my grown-up wonderful sons. “DOG-FACED SEA SERPENT” ha ha ha! ❤

[@johncollins8304]

"Death before sin." For gazillions of years. Exactly. A fellow-Catholic swipes that aside by saying, Yeah but Paul was only talking about human death. He's happy that God was happy with animal suffering.

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

How is God happy with animal suffering now if not then?

[@gregdavis19]

So you believe in the Loch Ness monster too! Really loved this interview. Please have Dr. Thomas back.

[@thisandthat849]

Go Nessie!

[@JohannaOberlechner]

Jona 2 Vers 2, Jona betete, als er 3 Tage und 3 Nächte im Leib des"Fisches" war, erwar im Rachen des Todes Vers 3, er starb nicht , er lebte , er betete, er überlebte um und wurde lebendig susgespuckt.

[@pj_ytmt-123]

*In the Book of Daniel* the 3 youths survived inside a FURNACE so what's there to explain about Jonah trapped - alive - in the belly of a fish??

[@surlyogre1476]

Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego... Daniel is not mentioned in that passage. Perhaps he was out of town on business?

[@pj_ytmt-123]

@surlyogre1476 Oh yeah you're right, the miracle was reported in the Book of Daniel but the prophet was not involved. Post edited. Thanks!

[@morefiction3264]

Sure. The reason people think Jonah actually died and was resurrected is his language in Jonah and Jesus' language comparing his 3 days in the earth to Jonah's 3 days in the ketos.

[@pj_ytmt-123]

@@morefiction3264 "Then Jonah prayed to the LORD his God from the fish’s belly." (Jonah 2:1)"

[@morefiction3264]

@@pj_ytmt-123 "out of the belly of Sheol ...The waters closed in over me to take my life; ... I went down to the land whose bars closed upon me forever; yet you brought up my life from the pit" That's the language that makes people think Jonah died and was resurrected. Combined with Jesus' comparison, it's fairly compelling. Not a huge point of doctrine.

[@danieldiken2548]

Praise God in the Highest! Jesus Christ is Lord!!

[@christiansaint716]

I had an uncle once who denied the Lord based exactly on what you talked about! He couldn't wrap his mind around a "whale" swallowing Jonah so he rejected the whole kit kaboodle. :(

[@Blink29]

Unfortunately that's what happens when you believe in a literalist view of some of these stories. If one thread begins to unravel then the whole thread does. That's the false narrative of the Christian church in general and ICR in particular. Some of the stories were meant to be taken literally and some weren't. The real challenge is that Christians have taken over the Bible and made it their own. They forget that these were Jewish writings, written by Jewish writers, relying on Jewish ways of being, writing to Jewish people in a Jewish context. It's best to ask a Rabbi what the Jonah story meant, not a 21 century Christian who's been steeped in 2000 years of Christendom

[@christiansaint716]

@@Blink29 There's also the point of translation. The text was written in ancient Hebrew and maybe another language. There are a few places where there is mistranslation.

[@AlexanderosD]

Sinking in the depths of the ocean, the ship growing smaller as it floats off. The darkness of the storm overtaking his vision as his descends under water. Thrown by the current, he knew his life was over, this was the end, he failed to follow God's mission and now he will pay with his life, drowned to death in the ocean. A massive dark figure approaches as he loses consciousness. His last sight, a monstrous frame like a Leviathan from the stories he heard as a boy. A long neck the size of the cedars of Lebanon curls about, and he sees an open maw of teeth and blackness encase him. Then... nothing... A corpse, eyes glossed over, soaked in vomit, bile and sea water, washed up on the shore. Had anyone seen it they would have looked on in horror. It begins to move, a spam and then a sharp inhalation of breath, and confusion. How long was he unconscious? How did he end up on this beach? What on earth is that thing lying dead on the shore next to him? The thoughts racing through his mind, but he knew, the Lord speaks to him and he knows the answers now. He will have to write this down in the future and tell others when he gets home. But for now, Jonah tries to raise his weak and shaking body from the sand. He has a mission, and he must fulfill it. The Lord wouldn't have brought him back from death otherwise. He begins to stumble and then walk, he must find the nearest town and find out where he is.

[@ApolloThyrteen]

@AlexanderDuncann You my friend, need write a book and then a movie 🍿

[@gabriellahsdancingheart8808]

Such a great talk for this time of year, around Yom Kippur! Is K-E-T-A-S a good transliteration of that word? Dog headed sea serpent, who knew? So fascinating!

[@patjones2082]

Great info guys! 👍🏻

[@ctreid87]

Fascinating😮

[@theHentySkeptic]

Very informative episode.

[@marschlosser4540]

Fantastic talk!

[@refuse2bdcvd324]

Great videos!

[@christhewritingjester3164]

I think mis-translations in general have caused more issues than we are aware of. I don't think it was done maliciously (in most translations), but with the intent to provide a better understanding of ancient words to a modern audience. We have so much more evidence about things than we used to as well, whereas I'm sure these earlier translators weren't as aware of extinct species and assumed it was a known creature.

[@ITPalGame]

Like how the original kjv translators put "Easter", a pagan goddess, for "Passover", in Acts.

[@todddale7041]

Great show but I would argue that plesiosaurs most likely exist today in Loch Ness 😉

[@graceyjewels7148]

Absolutely. Lakes all over the world have similar species.

[@ShoshiPlatypus]

Excellent! You CAN believe the whole Bible is true!

[@zerosteel0123]

Interesting! Never really thought of it being a large aquatic dinosaur. Makes one wonder 🤔

[@Orpheus_x]

🫠

[@srice6231]

Very interesting!

[@andrewp.schubert2417]

🙏

[@edbutzwiggle4227]

Interesting! thanks

[@ErikSvansbo]

Very good. Thank you!

[@willcheney5918]

First, Im not arguing with what this guy in the video is saying. i love the book of Jonah. In the book of Jonah i dont see the evidence he died in the belly of the big fish i see evidence he was alive and prayed in the belly and thanked God for the fish rescuing him from the deep. I see both sides, whether he was dead or alive, as an awesome miracle that only God could do. I see the symbolism for Jesus as Jonah was three days in the dark and then brought back up on the third day. Awesome piece of scripture. i encourage everyone to take 5 minutes and read the whole book

[@muppysalmander207]

In modern Hebrew, leviathan just means "whale" but in ancient Hebrew, it could refer to any large sea creature.

[@Arizona-qj7vo]

I have always been in awe of the Lord Gods sovereignty-I know we have freewill, BUT the Lord is gonna have his way Jonah turned and went opposite way -rejected Gods will and it just so happened that a storm arose-he gets thrown overboard and it just so happens a big fish is right there to swallow him, and just so happens after a repentant hearts cry-gets spit up right in the place the Lord told him to go in the first place where Nineveh was-yes we get to choose BUT the Lord is gonna have his way or another-AMAZING! He even planned for the missteps we'd make but still get to his destination!

[@marksmith1923]

Thank you for this fascinating insight into the story, which I’ve always believed and taken at face value. Personally, I do not believe that Jonah actually died whilst in the body of the creature, but whether he did, or did not, is somewhat academic due to the fact that he was to all intents and purposes in a place that was totally dark, damp and dismal (not to mention the smell). And if I were in a place like that, I would certainly be crying out to the Lord for help just as Jonah did.

[@dudleyhaines9826]

If youre swallowed by a whale, just do crunches until youre all pooped out.

[@ohanlojh]

😂😂😂

[@santiagovillota2896]

Fantastic discovery

[@jounisuninen]

I've understood that Jonah indeed was dead for those three days. God raised him from death.

[@jounisuninen]

It's fascinating that Jonah became a prediction of Jesus' resurrection. It is one piece more in God's huge design.

[@andrevisser7542]

Yes Jonah was in the place of the dead in old testament times, Sheol also called the pit... ‭‭Jonah‬ ‭2:2‬ ‭YLT98‬‬ [2] And he saith: I called, because of my distress, to Jehovah, And He doth answer me, *From the belly of sheol I have cried,* Thou hast heard my voice. [6] To the cuttings of mountains I have come down, The earth, her bars [are] behind me to the age. And *Thou bringest up from the pit my life,* O Jehovah my God. Noah's death and resurrection.

[@helveticalouie]

I love this channel🎉❤

[@hglundahl]

13:06 Lyme Regis ... a _plesiosaur_ was found there. Where any _land_ creatures found _above_ it, not meaning up-inland-off-coast, like 45 ° to horizontal, but really vertical, like 45° - 90° against horizontal?

[@jamesstewart8258]

Great stuff. Please include graphics and links.

[@DanielChzBurger7]

It looks like a Chinese dragon living in the water. The Ketos/ Cetos

[@ErnestImken]

Jesus said Jonah was in the belly of the whale for 3 days, as He would be in the earth for 3 days. (Mattew 12:40). In the OT Jonah was in the fish's belly for 3 days. (Jonah 1:17) Jesus compares Jonah and Himself as resurrected. Sea bass are known to be able to swallow another fish one third it's size. An 18 foot bass is possible, but with God, nothing is impossible.

[@tomislavzrno4032]

Sounds like Romanian dacia animal without flippers

[@bornagainspirit]

Why is it so important, what kind of fish or a whale swalled Jonah? How this affect once salvation? Maranatha.

[@ctreid87]

Your complaint is addressed near the end.

[@icrscience]

@ctreid87 Thank you. :)

[@kevintanner6284]

Did you read Ch 2 and it can be better understanding 🤔

[@rosielynmurphy892]

I never doubted the story of Jonah and know all things are possible with the LORD/Lord. Much more to the story than we think, thank you!

[@bswihart1]

I don’t know for sure if Cetus exists but the ocean is huge and we haven’t explored it all, not even close.

[@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458]

The honest, open study of the facts does support the Bible. Keep up the good work.

[@kristolball]

My interpretation of Jonah is that he literally died...he didn't survive. He went to Sheol as stated in the text. On the third day he was brought back to life and washed upon the shore. Now, imagine a three-day digested man walking into the city proclaiming judgement. THAT would be a sign, and that would be proof to heed. Otherwise, he would just another man proclaiming judgement. Something about his testimony radically changed the people of Nineveh.

[@travisbrewer5391]

13:00 it was an ichthyosaur, not a plesiosaur

[@jeffreypaulsen8848]

What about an ichthyosaur? I visited the Ichthyosaur State Park in central Nevada where 3 (if memory serves me correctly) of these fossil creatures are found?

[@johncollins8304]

Not only the way the bible said it happened but the way our rabbi said it happened Matthew 22:40. Jonah was three days and three nights in the stomach of a big fish.

[@johncollins8304]

Oops, she's just said that. Sorry.

[@johncollins8304]

Oops again, he's just said correctly chapter 12, not 20.

[@RodericGurrola]

In the book of Jonah it’s says big fish in the New Testament it say whale. King James Version. It kinda shows how they we’re still trying to figure what exact creature it was. Love this video. And yes we should use the Bible to help us understand it. God bless you have a great day.

[@Fthrof7]

100% agree. Thank you so much for sharing. I heard Jonah preached at a church not long ago and pointed out to the speaker exactly this - Jonah appears to have died and was raised from the dead - just based on the Jonah passage alone if you read it carefully, and Jesus affirms this as the “sign of Jonah” in the New Testament. The speaker brushed it off…glad to see I’m not the only one with this understanding though.

[@nisiu0123]

The ketos could also have been a member of an unusual whale family which had a snake or eal like bodybuild. The Basilo"saurus" was one of the members of this family.

[@rtod4]

My favorite sea creature: "The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms", for those old enough to remember 1950's monster movies 😊

[@anonymike8280]

20,000 fathom is 120,000 feet. The oceans are not that deep. In linear distance, 20,000 fathoms is not very far, about the distance between Times Square and Scarsdale.

[@vincentpinto1127]

Jesus saying Jonah died? Absolutely, resolutely, no!! Here's what he said, exactly: Matt 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. Now, it one thing for you to "patronize" the Lord Jesus Christ by putting words in HIS mouth for HIM to supposedly justify his resurrection. But he DID NOT say Jonah died!!! Jesus' words say he was in the belly of the creature. Jonah is a metaphor and as you yourself said, he was a sign of what would happen to the Lord Jesus! Sign - not reality!!! And Jesus IS the Word of God. HE, of all persons, knows to use the word "died" if Jonah had truly dead in the belly of the fish, whale, creature, and was not merely in it!! I also think you've sadly gone overboard with the "ketos" thing, and too much of your supposed Greek learning!! Sorry to have to be blunt, but you need to wake up. ketos is used only once in the NT. While fish elsewhere in the NT is ichthus as in the child's fish that was multiplied, or opsarion in other places. So whatever ketos was, it is not seriously incorrect to say whale. Because after all, a whale is a mammal. True; it is sufficient for it to be a creature in the sea. You should have stayed with "dag". Jonah WAS in a "dag" and elsewhere in the OT, right from Genesis "fish" in the sea are "dag". Even if by the time of the Lord Jesus that specific species of "dag" had gone extinct, leading the Truth himself to use the word ketos and not ichthus or opsarion!!

[@TheJonboix]

I looked up Cetus and found quite a few references to an alternate name of Kraken

[@psiwaverebirth1]

I honestly do not believe Jonah died in the belly of the sea critter. I believe God kept him alive as punishment as the creature made its way to the coast to regurgitate Jonah to deliver God's message. Keeping a man alive in a place that man should absolutely not be able to survive in not beyond the power of The Almighty. Can you imagine a worse feeling than being digested, crushed, and suffocating for days knowing that you deserved what you have gotten for defying the Lord?

[@muppetonmeds]

Yes, he was a real man of God I would have lost it being surrounded by nothing but fish all day lol.

[@deanweaver4469]

This was AWESOME 😊 Never knew the link when Jesus mentioned the event😮

[@johncollins8304]

Yup, sarcophagi. (Just looked it up).

[@travisbrewer5391]

15:53 a sarcophagus is a coffin ⚰️

[@rodneyplewright7685]

The Ninevites worshipped the Fish God, Dagon (amongst other gods), and when a big "fish" vomitted Jonah up on the shore of Nineveh, the Ninevites must have been awestruck, perhaps believing that their god brought this strange prophet to them with a special message - which is why they listened to Jonah. Just conjecturing!

[@patrickedgington5827]

A question which is not to do with what swallowed Jonah. I’m more curios how what swallowed him got to Nineveh? After all the city is no where near a sea?

[@bleachigo990]

Jonah 3:1-2

[@chrish5791]

I’m not sure that I can agree with you that Jonah died and that God resurrected him. The Bible says that God “prepared” this creature (Jonah 1:17), whatever it was, so these preparations could well have been what allowed Jonah to survive within it. Reading Jesus’ words in Matthew 12:40 still doesn’t provide enough evidence of the death of Jonah and his resurrection by God, but this isn’t a salvation issue or an issue that falsifies Scripture so we can agree to disagree on it. It’s my belief that Jonah did survive, through God’s preparation, the three days in this sea creature and I look forward to understanding if he did and how it was done when God explains this and all to me (1 Corinthians 12:12) when I’m in His presence in eternity.

[@stevehamburg2844]

Very interesting theory. I do think it should be mentioned that Dr Thomas said the New Testament was written in Greek, "The original language" I believe is the term he used. Whereas I believe the majority of the linguist of the world will say the New Testament was written in Hebrew, but that the Greek translation is the oldest we have. I say that because we know that (A) Most everyone in the New Testament were Hebrews, living in Israel, acting as Hebrews, living in a Hebrew culture. That would only make sense to believe that they would speak, and therefore write, in Hebrew, mixed in with some Aramaic. And (B) There are phrases in the NT that are Hebrew-isms or Hebrew idioms that a Greek writer would never use in Greek sentence formation. But yet we find these phrases sprinkled throughout. These language idioms are found in every language. An example of an American-ism is "dead as a doornail", all Americans have heard it and think nothing of it, but you would never find an Egyptian using this phrase in their writings. They would think it strange. So, to believe that the NT was originally written in Greek, by Israelites, living in Israel, in a "Jewish" dominated society, to quote Dr Thomas again, "That would be a really tall claim".

[@hglundahl]

1:05 It perhaps doesn't say Jonah lived. While praying, he could have been already dead. Or the prayer could have been well remembered last words before dying.

[@kenwebster5053]

Another thing to remember is that many such artworks were made from oral description & not by eyewitnesses, which is why it looks fake.

[@ohanlojh]

You should have read chapter 2. Clearly Jonah was conscious in the belly of the creature up to the point GOD answered his prayer of repentance and spoke to the monster which spit him out. I do like the insight of the "ketos" tho. BTW Y@shua didn't preach in Greek but likely would have used the word for the serpent in Greek.

[@d.g.rohrig4063]

Considering that the search for extinct creatures is in fossil form from the sea and/or ancient seabeds and the percentage of those is approximately less than 5%, there could be any such creature that once lived, is a rarity at this time OR quite possibly has not been found yet. We still do not have a complete understanding of our oceans.

[@srice6231]

I looked up Mary Anning and she had an interesting life and was a Christian. Someone should write a book for kids that is a combo biography about her and science book about the fossils/animals from a Christian perspective since she was a believer. A British movie was made that showed a relationship between her and a woman that was made up but was presented as true. Her true story and faith should get out there.

[@rickhuntling7338]

Wrong, the great fish swallowed Jonah and he was dead in the heart of the earth and I'm guessing in the rich man's side of hell in torment. JESUS said like Jonah three days and nights in the heart of the earth not alive in a whale or Leviathan's belly. Another fact when he was vomited, he was in a terrible glob of a corrupted corpse in a state of digestion. This leaves JESUS alone to fulfill the "sure mercies of David" in Ps. 16:10, Isa. 55:3, Acts 13:34.

[@jenniferoutlaw1975]

If one starts at the viewpoint that the Bible is true and God's knowledge is beyond what we can even imagine, then we can rest in the idea that "the science" will eventually catch up with the things God set forth in His word as fact. Then we can enjoy those "mysterious" passages we don't understand.

[@region-7]

Jesus was talking about his preaching of repentance to a wicked city and compared it to Jonah. Same sign given to Ninevah, not death, burial and resurrection. Note that Jonah got the second part of the message in chapter 3. 40 days and destruction comes... Did you know that about 40 years later in Jesus' timeframe that in 70 AD another wicked city was destroyed....(JERUSALEM)

[@surlyogre1476]

For a long time now, I have wondered if Jonah was really swallowed by an icthyosaur or similar marine "dinosaur".

[@HappyBoyProductions]

Learned a lot from this video. Thanks for all the work you do ICR!