Geological Evidences for a Young Earth - Pt 1

Some people claim that our planet is billions of years old. The geologic features we see are supposedly ancient, carved out over long spans of time by natural processes. Is this true?
Host Lauren and Dr. Tim Clarey discuss this important topic on episode 54 of The Creation Podcast!
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[@marcussheffield7221]

Thanks for your work!

[@taylorthetunafish5737]

Geology proves that the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

[@BhikPersonal]

​@@taylorthetunafish5737 The principle of Uniformitarianism: "The present is the key to the past" upon which we get the date of the Earth to be 4.5 billion years ago is an unfalsifiable principle as it is not falsifiable by real historical science. Therefore we dismiss Uniformitarian geology as pseudoscience. Also, Astronomy refutes the claim that the whole Universe including the Earth is billions of years old and it proves that the whole Universe including the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. We directly observe supernovas (blowing up of stars) occurring on an average of every 30 years and the fact that there are less than 300 supernova remnants in the entire universe and not 100s of millions of supernovas that we should observe if the entire Universe is billions of years old. And nobody has ever seen a star form and nor has anyone brought up a plausible theory for how any of these stars form on their own. So by keeping the age of the Universe falsifiable by written records and pedigree mutation rates in the mitochondria, we can reasonably extrapolate the age of the universe based on the observations of the frequency of supernovas and supernova remnants and we can reasonably conclude that the age of the universe including Earth is less than 10,000 years.

[@taylorthetunafish5737]

@@BhikPersonal The principle of uniformitarianism is not how we figured out the age of the earth. You think mutation rates of mitochondria reveal the age of the universe? Are you serious? Written records are not how we know the age of the earth, humans have only been around for 100,000 years and we didn't always know how to write. Astronomy does not refute the age of the earth or universe. Astronomy supports the universe being 13.8 billion years old. Nothing in reality proves the earth is less than 10,000 years old. You want to believe it, regardless of all the evidence to the contrary. Your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

[@marculatour6229]

It is always funny to hear little kindergarten children talking about their imaginary friends and it's very interesting for psychological studies. Once they grow older, they can be called "real people". Now they have the behavior of Stone Age people. But it's good to have an imaginary friend as a child, who can reassure you when you're of an age you can't yet understand how the world works, surronded by a lot of crazy childs. Stone Age people were masters at making stone axes and other stone tools. But then someone came up with the idea of explaining the origin of the world. With the knowledge of how to make stone tools. And living in the center of the universe on a flat earth. The result was? The Bible. So you can say, "The Bible is a Stone Age tool for explaining the universe." Modern people are already using laser tools. But nothing prevents anybody from continuing to use Stone Age tools. Maybe in 2 million years of evolution a lot of earthlings reach the level of modern people. Cognitive Dissonance “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” Frantz Fanon

[@marculatour6229]

Thank God! We live on a disc of earth at the center of the universe and everything revolves around us. Could it be that's why some of us are dizzy in the brain and therefore can't think straight? But then someone comment what I wrote with: "We are not in the centre of the universe." Then I asked: "And how can you explain that all religious people are dizzy in the brain? This in the middle thing must be the reason. It is absolutly sensless to create a universe where not the humans life in the center of it and every thing revolves not around them. That would make all human live insignificant and also every god. Have you ever heard something about "irony"?"

[@Janer-52]

Back in the 1970's, I took a geology class. The instructor spoke of "pillow lava" which has been found all over the world, even atop mountains. Just before our class, there had been a volcanic eruption in the Hawaii islands, and underwater filming had been done for the first time. They could see pillow lava being formed - a unique form only created underwater. Because of this, he began to believe in a global flood as well. God's creation proves itself again and again.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Not geological uplift, then?

[@angelalewis3645]

!!!

[@boxelder9167]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu- Geological uplift is in most (if not all) global flood models in that the flood waters are running off of the uplifting contents. There are vast mountain ranges where the tops of the mountains are planed off suggesting that they were at a higher altitude during the flood than the uplifted late flood mountains. In general though the water had to go somewhere which would have the heavier ocean basalt sinking while the lighter granite would be uplifted. It is interesting to note that the geological topography of Mars is explained by it’s global flood yet it currently has no surface water but the same geological topography on Earth is not seen as being formed by a flood by the secular community. However there has been some movement towards local flooding in recent decades which would have to be all over the world. So local flooding all over the world is being considered but just not all at once as that’s too close to the Biblical description.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

@@boxelder9167 Mountain ranges are formed by the collision of continents - water 'running off' land does not cause uplift this is pure fantasy with no evidence whatsoever. Mount ranges are still forming, continents are still moving. Mars never suffered a global flood and it's topography is largely volcanic - where are you getting this stuff?

[@boxelder9167]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu - Wow. Type “Global Flood on Mars” into the search engine. You’ll find a ton of stuff about that from NASA’s observations and from the Mars rover. The second part is buoyancy. Continental crust is lighter than oceanic crust. Just like putting the ice in a glass of water the ice floats up to the top only rock is floating on molting rock. Push down on one part of the water bed and the other side goes up. Add a bunch of weight to the ocean floor and something else will lift up. Sure we also can get uplift from colliding plates but why do we have moving plates in the first place? But just follow one layer across a continent (often they span multiple continents). Say that layer is anywhere between 20’ thick and 5’ feet thick. How do you get a consistent layer of sediment across an entire continent without that being deposited by a sheet of moving water? Your only other option is wind and wind isn’t going to bury a whale in the middle of a continent however water could. I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that water washed across the entire continent producing uniform layers of sediment and buried the whales and the dinosaurs found in those layers in the same process. That’s a really big flood. Since we find this on all continents I am going to go out on another limb and say that it was a global flood. Since we find entire mountain ranges with the tops planed off at the same altitude I am going to go out on another limb here and say that the water in that flood was deep, about the depth of the mountains with their tops flattened out.

[@indigatorveritatis7343]

He mentioned the island of Kauai, and then went on to the Grand Canyon right after that. Lots of people don't know there is the "Grand Canyon of the Pacific" (named by Mark Twain) on Kauai. Would be cool to see some commentary on it

[@GSpotter63]

So in other words frome the very beginning the Geologic column, evolution and deep time was based on their assumptions of how the layers were formed and not frome actual experimental data... That would explain how they could have gotten it all wrong.

[@MichaelBethel]

I think one of the most profound statements I've heard about canyons and rivers is that the canyon isn't there because of the river but that the river is there because of the canyon... the canyon has given a path for water to flow even through mountain ranges.

[@stevepierce6467]

I think you have completely missed the best explanation of how the canyon was formed: Paul Bunyan dug it with his ax one night when he could not sleep.

[@ianmonk6211]

The flume experiments are wonderful. I am surprised we dont see videos of them in these shows

[@meanqkie2240]

Our Earth Sciences Class at University did lots of field trips with Economic Metals and Geology/Petro groups. We found recently formed sodastraw stalactites on a rapidly crumbling limestone cliff face. It was illegal to collect from a cave, but not on an open cliff face! Keokuk Chert, Reed Spring Limestone/Sandstone Formation, St Jo blue Limestone over black Chattanooga Shale it was a wonderful sampling of representative cliff layers along the Illinois River. I knew the significance of finding that, but most of our classmates and colleagues wouldn’t even contemplate it!

[@Purcap]

W😮W! I Wish I could see it.

[@meanqkie2240]

@@Purcap east of Tahlequah Ok. Along the Illinois River. Used to be called Lover’s Leap.

[@Purcap]

Thank you.

[@cliftongaither6642]

they wouldn't contemplate it because the flood story is bullshit !

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

I love this type of stuff, grew up watching National Geographic and the like. A few years ago I stumbled upon creation science and was hooked. Just discovered this channel. Andlove it so far. A few more resources in this is the KZbin channel Answers in Genesis and Dr. Dell Tackett put out a DVD series Is Genesis History. Fascinating and in it they go into great detail about evidence of the flood. Focusing on different areas of evidence then him. He's got both a movie along with a 6 DVD series get the series much much more content and well worth the money.

[@offthefront7537]

Why buy anything except the Bible?

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

@@offthefront7537 1. Stuff like this is a tool to use against non believers. Also reading Biblical commentary, along with books by the Father's, Doctors, and Saibts if the Church along with books on Theoligy, Docterns and even Church History. Gives you a richer and deeper understanding of the faith along with inspiration all of which will help you grow in your walk with the Lord.

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

If you want to base your understanding of today on the oral traditions of goat herders from 2000-5000 years ago go right ahead, buy a hundred bibles.

[@marculatour6229]

But everyone can believe that our Earth is only 6000 years old. That only depends on are you a fool or not. I think our earth and universe are only 2 days old and where conjured up by an extraterrestrial. All geologic features we see are conjured up 2 days ago and there exist no natural processes. This is true. A lot of humans are to stupid to see the truth. Making an absurdity even more absurd automatically makes that absurdity true. This you can see in the The Great Book Of Fantasy And Fiction. In a foreign language it is named by some extraterrestrials E-L-B-I-B-E-H-T. I am a preacher. I am the creator of the truth. We are the preachers. We are the creators of the thruthes. I tried very hard to became a believer. But nobody wants to remove the parts of my brain who are responsible for rationality.

[@marculatour6229]

​@@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264 I think this kind of stuff can send you straight to the madhouse too and can used against believers. There you will met Jack Nicholson.

[@rollingstone3017]

Many years ago we visited the Johnson visitors center at Mt Saint Helens. We were struck by the displays of geological formations that were formed quickly and catastrophically, disproving myriads of theories previously believed as proof of millions of years timelines.

[@stevepierce6467]

I get sediment at the bottom of my rain gauge. After days of no rain, it hardens and becomes difficult to remove. Proof that solid stone can form in mere days and not millions of years. Uuuuh, no! No new stone has been formed by the avalanche on Mt St Helens. No trees have become petrified.

[@chrisanderson5317]

Cement can be made in a matter of hours. Cement is a form of calcium carbonate.

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

What is your point?

[@revv45acp71]

Thank you!

[@karenhayes4082]

thank you for your wonderful interviews & explanations.. God bless you all 😊

[@canadiankewldude]

Dr Walt Brown has a superior presentation for a working global flood model. Dr Gentry should be mentioned here as well, his work on Granite, world wide, shows scientific results, proving a young earth.

[@davidjanbaz7728]

No, proof of YEC !

[@seekertruth3577]

@canadiankewldude: I once was lost [an atheist -- evolutionist] by now I’m found [creationist]. I regret the wasted years. The widely accepted age of the universe is currently 13.77 billion years and for the solar system (including Earth) it is 4.543 billion years. However, no scientific method can prove the age of the Earth and the universe. Although age indicators are called ‘clocks’ they are not, because all ages result from calculations that necessarily involve making assumptions about the past. The starting time of the ‘clock’ has always to be assumed as well as the way in which the speed of the clock has varied over time. Further, it has to be assumed that the clock was never disturbed. Ages of millions of years are all calculated by assuming the rates of change of processes in the past were the same as we observe today-called the principle of uniformitarianism. If the age calculated from such assumptions disagrees with what they think the age should be, *they conclude that their assumptions did not apply in this case, and adjust them accordingly. If the calculated result gives an acceptable age, the investigators publish it.* Dr. Robert Gentry provides credible evidence for the young age of the earth, and so does Creation.com website. Evolution caught on because it seemed like a sound idea. There are many people with intellectual excuses, but few with intellectual problems - Have you met some of them? Excuses can cover a multitude of reasons. We can greatly respect a man who has taken time to investigate the claims of God and concludes he just can't believe. I have a rapport with a man who knows why he does not believe [factually and historically], for I know why I believe [factually and historically]. This gives us a common ground [though different conclusions]. Most people reject God for one or more of the following reasons: *1.)* - *Ignorance* - Romans 1:18-23 [often self-imposed], Matthew 22:29 *2.)* - *Pride* - John 5:40-44 *3.)* - *Moral Problem* - John 3:19-20 *4.)* - *Accountability* Matthew 12:36-37 The subject of strata beds leads to the interesting question as to how these layers were formed, and why the evolutionists have *guesstimated* their age in the billions of years. The dating of those layers has been done on the basis of the *theory of uniformity.* This theory *assumes* that all the natural processes at work in the past have operated exactly as they do today. In other words, we can only explain the creation of those strata on the basis of what we see happening in the world now. How long does it require now for a foot-deep stratum? Then that age is assigned to any 12-inch layer, no matter how deeply located within the earth. Is that a valid assumption to make? Have all the natural forces of the past been just what we can demonstrate and understand today? *How naive and conceited to compel ages past to conform to our limited observation and experience. We can assume what we please, but it proves absolutely nothing.* The Bible describes very graphically a flood that ravaged the face of this earth, *covering the highest mountains and completely destroying all plant and animal life outside the ark.* The destructive action of the deluge is expressed by these words in the Bible: "The same way were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights." [Genesis 7:11-12]. The existence of those strata can be scientifically accounted for in perfect harmony with the Biblical record. *The universal flood of Genesis provides a much more reasonable explanation of the strata than evolution's speculations.* As the waters receded from the earth, powerful tides and currents carved out the great canyons in a short time. Layers of debris, according to the specific weight, were laid down, compressing plant and animal life into a compact seam or stratum. Only thus can we explain the vast oil reserves and coal beds around the world. These are the product of vegetation and animal bodies being buried under extreme heat and pressure. *No such process of fossilization is taking place today.* No oil or coal is formed by present natural forces at work. *The closest thing we can find is a few peat bogs which, if buried long enough, might become coal.* -- Uniformity fails here. Mountains form where two [convergent plate boundaries] continental plates collide. They crumple and fold until the rocks are forced up to form a mountain range. Mountains are usually formed at what is called convergent plate boundaries, *meaning a boundary at which two plates are moving towards one another.* This type of boundary eventually results in a collision. Continental drift collisions take a long time, as plates only shift a few centimeters each year, but they can still be powerful enough to form the Earth's largest mountain ranges. *Today, the theory of continental drift has been replaced by the science of plate tectonics.* *Plate tectonics is a theory in geology that explains how the Earth's oceans and continents move over long periods of time.* Tectonic plates are composed of lithosphere, which is a layer of the Earth made up of the crust and upper mantle. *These plates float on the layer below, called the asthenosphere, and the continents move with them.* Plate tectonics has been supported by evidence from both the fossil record and instruments used to measure the movement of continents and the spread of the ocean floor. It explains the existence of a supercontinent Pangea, and how Pangea broke apart to become the seven continents on the planet today. Continental drift is the reason that Pangea no longer exists. Tectonic plates shift a few inches per year, moving the continents and oceans with them. *Interesting occurrences happen at the boundaries of these tectonic plates, including earthquakes, volcanoes, *and mountain range formations.* Each type of plate boundary is associated with specific geologic formations and behaviors. Convergent plate boundaries are characteristic of places where two plates are moving toward each other. Due to differences in the density and temperature of the two tectonic plates, subduction often occurs at these boundaries. There are three types of convergent plate boundaries: oceanic-oceanic, oceanic-continental, and continental-continental. At oceanic-oceanic convergent boundaries, two tectonic plates converge and form an oceanic trench. At oceanic-continental plate boundaries - places where an oceanic plate meets a continental plate - the oceanic plate subducts under the continental plate due to differences in density. *In the case of continental-continental plate boundaries, the collision of the two plates produces mountain ranges like the Himalayas;* neither tectonic plate subducts in this case. Visit Sciencing.com *Now, the Bible's global flood complements the above.* Every detail of the landscape makes sense within the Bible’s 6,000-year timeframe as far as the eye can see - down to the individual rocks and the microscopic crystals inside them. Mountains and hills occurred at a much faster pace in the past, especially during two unique events revealed in God’s Word - the six-day Creation *and the global Flood.* The Apostle Peter says the Lord originally made the earth and then “destroyed” it in a global Flood [2 Peter 3:5,6], forming new landscapes, including the mountain chains we see today. You just have to know what you’re looking for. During the global flood, that *single* supercontinent [Pangaea] was torn apart as the fountains of the great deep broke up [Genesis 7:11], and as the continental plates then tore across the globe it was inevitable some would collide with one another, creating Asia, Africa, North America, South America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia. Also, Microcontinents such as Zealandia broke away from the continents of Australia and Antarctica, and the South and North islands of New Zealand, and northwest towards the islands that make up New Caledonia. Wegener was convinced that all of Earth’s continents were once part of an enormous, *single large supercontinent called Pangaea.* that existed in the southern hemisphere, clustered near the Antarctic Circle before it began to break up consisting of the modern-day continents. When the African plate crashed into North America, it pushed up the lower layers. You could never see these lower layers unless some extraordinary earth movement pushed them upward (or a canyon was cut deep into the earth like at Grand Canyon). The theory of *continental drift [Tectonic plates]* is most associated with the scientist Alfred Wegener. In the early 20th century, Wegener published a paper explaining his theory that the continental landmasses were “drifting” across the Earth, sometimes plowing through oceans and into each other. He called this movement continental drift. Continental Drift from Pangea to Today

[@marculatour6229]

Larry asked: "Do people really believe this religious Mumbo Jumbo?" InfoArtist answers: "Only wise people." He is right! Yes, only wise people belive in mumbo jumbo aliens. I got God out of my head. For thousands of years he has only been doing nonsense but not saving mankind. He has to find a new home. I won't him anymore feed through. I filled my vacated headspace with something similar and maybe better. A concrete finding is. Nothing earthly can have created our earth. Nothing from our dimension can have created this dimension. So God is a fifth dimensional extraterrestrial. Now, when I realize what that means, I have to run away screaming. I think I lost my second god. But, and this makes me really happy, I found out that our universe works without the help of extraterrestrials. Of course, I can't judge how things work in other universes. Maybe the people there are dependent on the help of an extraterrestrial. Or do you mean there are no other universes with other gods? I think, the possibility that other aliens created their own universes is very high. But even so, I still have the desire to run away screaming. Imagine any god touching you with his alien fingers. Zach Braff: "There are almost 5000 gods being worshipped by humanity. But don't worry ...only yours is right."

[@mmaimmortals]

WB was definitely on to something. Despite the comments of the critics, what little I know about his theory is very natural and does not at all violate physics. M

[@marculatour6229]

@@mmaimmortals Harry Potter conjured up our universe after he conjured up himself. That is very natural and does not violate physics. Stone Age people were masters at making stone axes and other stone tools. But then someone came up with the idea of explaining the origin of the world. With the knowledge of how to make stone tools. And living in the center of the universe on a flat earth. The result was? The Bible. So you can say, "The Bible is a Stone Age tool for explaining the universe." Modern people are already using laser tools. But nothing prevents anybody from continuing to use Stone Age tools. Maybe in 2 million years of evolution a lot of earthlings reach the level of modern people.

[@petervogel2350]

What about the chain of the Hawaiian Islands that is submerged extending nearly to the Aleutians?

[@user-gk6ge2jq9q]

Great video!

[@bamavon]

The carbon dioxide enriched water which is pumped into the basalt in Iceland combines with olivine to produce magnesite and silica. Magnesite is a carbonate yes, but it is not limestone. There is a huge difference between crystalline growth and rock formation.

[@user-yn5sb9hk2i]

The biggest joke is that T-rex and other sauropods are 65 million years old. They all died in the flood about 12,000 years ago.

[@lederereddy]

But to mention the fact that these sedimentary layers are between 1 and 2 miles deep.

[@guylelanglois6642]

Where do you get the forty feet per year? I don't think even sand dunes move at that rate unless the wind is over forty miles per hour continuously.

[@margomoore4527]

The flood was incredibly violent! Winds, rain, tsunamis, more water coming up from the deep, volcanic eruptions both visible and underwater, tectonic plates moving. God basically remade the earth!

[@margomoore4527]

Source: videos from this channel!

[@joekraimer5379]

At the 23:25 mark, Dr. Clarey states 40 feet per MILLION years as a ball park figure, depending on today environmental conditions, based on the Uniformitarianism hypothesis

[@theteamgroundworksoriginal2332]

Combination of truth by repetition with lies by omission?

[@KenJackson_US]

Yeah, that's what evolution is all about.

[@loricalass4068]

@@KenJackson_USI have seen zero truth in evolution personally.

[@joeosp1689]

An entertaining and easy-to-understand book about the Genesis creation and evolution debate is Axis of Beginning.

[@m0psey731]

Can you please reference the research articles on shales being deposited by moving water? For my Christian uniformitarian geologist husband, who would like to see strong evidence of a global flood 😵‍💫 (that’s me, trying to discuss biblical creation geology with him!)

[@YenneY01]

I would like to see an episode with an old world scientist. This guy is preaching to the choir. We need more debate.

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

The argument is not that there ARE rocks. The argument is over HOW LONG did it take for them to form?

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

Fascinating! Thanks for these videos ICR 😊🙏✝️ Watching now

[@marculatour6229]

Larry asked: "Do people really believe this religious Mumbo Jumbo?" InfoArtist answers: "Only wise people." He is right! Yes, only wise people belive in mumbo jumbo aliens. I got God out of my head. For thousands of years he has only been doing nonsense but not saving mankind. He has to find a new home. I won't him anymore feed through. I filled my vacated headspace with something similar and maybe better. A concrete finding is. Nothing earthly can have created our earth. Nothing from our dimension can have created this dimension. So God is a fifth dimensional extraterrestrial. Now, when I realize what that means, I have to run away screaming. I think I lost my second god. But, and this makes me really happy, I found out that our universe works without the help of extraterrestrials. Of course, I can't judge how things work in other universes. Maybe the people there are dependent on the help of an extraterrestrial. Or do you mean there are no other universes with other gods? I think, the possibility that other aliens created their own universes is very high. But even so, I still have the desire to run away screaming. Imagine any god touching you with his alien fingers. Zach Braff: "There are almost 5000 gods being worshipped by humanity. But don't worry ...only yours is right."

[@DanielH92]

great video

[@galenstevenson918]

Learning about turbidity flows was the breakthrough moment when I began to understand how the flood happened.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

It did not happen.

[@canadiankewldude]

I still prefer Dr Walt Brown's ideas, published and can be read online pdf free. They have a history, Dr Brown was working with his now competitors in the idea's for the Global Flood, reality.

[@marculatour6229]

Larry asked: "Do people really believe this religious Mumbo Jumbo?" InfoArtist answers: "Only wise people." He is right! Yes, only wise people belive in mumbo jumbo aliens. I got God out of my head. For thousands of years he has only been doing nonsense but not saving mankind. He has to find a new home. I won't him anymore feed through. I filled my vacated headspace with something similar and maybe better. A concrete finding is. Nothing earthly can have created our earth. Nothing from our dimension can have created this dimension. So God is a fifth dimensional extraterrestrial. Now, when I realize what that means, I have to run away screaming. I think I lost my second god. But, and this makes me really happy, I found out that our universe works without the help of extraterrestrials. Of course, I can't judge how things work in other universes. Maybe the people there are dependent on the help of an extraterrestrial. Or do you mean there are no other universes with other gods? I think, the possibility that other aliens created their own universes is very high. But even so, I still have the desire to run away screaming. Imagine any god touching you with his alien fingers. Zach Braff: "There are almost 5000 gods being worshipped by humanity. But don't worry ...only yours is right."

[@mmaimmortals]

@@canadiankewldude What key word search will pull it up the best? I’ve really wanted to read his account. To date, I’ve only heard bits and pieces from different sources. From what I can tell, he has some really good ideas, but also has some ideas that don’t seem at all realistic. I think many have rejected his good ideas because of the bad ones, and because of being given a competing hypothesis as you’ve alluded to.

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

Just a tidbit, orthodox christians affirm a 7500 yo Earth instead of 6000. In Orthodox Christianity we still use the Septuagint translation of the Old Testament (close to 2nd century BC), which far predates the Masoretic text. The Roman Catholics also used to use the same text pre and post-Schism, but somewhat in recent modern history they swapped to the Masoretic. The genealogies contain some slightly longer lifespans for the first sets of generations, which leads to Earth being 7500 yo. The problem is that the Masoretic Old Testament is a product of 8th-9th century AD Rabbinical Jewish scholar work, who's bias we simply can't accept. The protestants seemed to have embraced this instead of the traditional Septuagint, which St Paul himself quoted.

[@marculatour6229]

I've heard, creationists believe the dinosaurs played with the creationists children, but they didn't survive. I mean the dinosaurs. Now there are no more dinosaurs. The children of creationists are responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Incredible! A lot of people say, it would be better the other way around. @daftwulli6145 wrote to me: "@marculatour, it is a lot more then just one species of dinosaur. Basically the smaller feathered dinosaurs made it, the rest died" Yes, a feathered species of dinosaur survived the terror of the creationist children. Fortunately. They just flew away. Very few children of creationists could fly. This also turned out to be a stroke of luck. My dad always said: “Let people have weird hobbies as long as they don’t believe that an extraterrestrial conjured up our universe out of nothing from the 5th dimension.” ​ But then I had to tell my dad, “But that’s what they believe and they called this alien GOD.” My dad totally shocked:: "Dealing with religion is dealing with insanity."

[@TheHenok30]

Greek pronounces the "G" hard as in "goat." It's "Genesis" NOT "Jenesis."

[@iaindcosta]

..and G netics?

[@TheHenok30]

@@iaindcosta - Nope! No way! Absolutely not! Never! By no means! Nay (No)! Nada! Etc. γένεσις GE-NE-SIS "ORIGIN (birth, lineage, descent)" is a Greek word that English adopted. I'm of the opinion that we should pronounce Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek & Latin words or names correctly to preach & preserve truth. Note: Koine Greek doesn't have a "J" sound. Genesis appears at: (Mattai 1:1, 18; Lucas 1:14; Yaaqoḅ (James) 1:23; 3:6).

[@thetabletopskirmisher]

You know, we really don't have to be afraid of science. If you've been following the findings of the people in the Discovery Institute, you can see that the latest scientific findings actually support creation! (Although they are careful not to frame it that way because they are active in the scientific community). We need to remember: the Bible has never purported to be a historical document, but rather it's God's message to us. That's the more important thing: the message of salvation for mankind. We simply don't know the length of time between Creation and Abraham (with a concrete mention of Ur). So the test is: Does the Bible clash with evidence discovered so far? 1. If we go with the view that God created everything and we don't care about the stated time period that took, then we have no conflict with the findings of paleontologists, geologists, etc.and we can focus on God's message to us. 2. If we go with the view that God created everything in 6 literal 24 hour days and the earth is much younger than what the geologists, paleontologists etc have discovered... that just gives those who already don't believe in God and Jesus more ammo to attack us with. It's perfectly fine to let them claim the earth is billions of years old! Atheists have already done the maths and worked out that IF evolution was true, the time scale required is in the hundreds of trillions of years! Even with the recent DOUBLING of the age of the universe, that only makes the universe some 26+ billion years old. A far, far, cry from the hundreds of trillions of years required. Then take into account the "Goldilocks" nature of our solar system and earth. How it is perfectly fine tuned to support life that even the minutest deviation in so many different factors (distance of Earth from sun, angle of tile of the earth, speed of rotation etc.) would make life impossible. I do wish you'd focus on highlighting all the latest scientific discoveries that SUPPORT creation rather than go down this rabbit hole of a young earth.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

There are no findings of the Discovery Institute.

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

How about mathematical calculations of how long it would have taken for life to form accidentally or the perfectly tuned laws of the universe that work in conjunction to sustain life?

[@wooddoc5956]

​@@giancarlospiridon9283Those calculations are about as valid as those that predict life in other parts of the universe. Think about all the places in the universe that will kill you before you get all special on yourself.

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

@@wooddoc5956 they are valid, you just obviously don’t know them. Basic math and chemistry. There are 20 aminos, the simplest protein has a link of 150 of them(some have 30000). For origin of life we calculate using a small one. So for one protein to appear successfully by accident it would have to try 20 to the power of 150 for trial and error to have a guaranteed result of 1 . To put that number into perspective, the total number of atoms in the entire universe is estimated to be 10 to the power of 80(meaning a 1 followed by 81 zeroes). So to be sure a protein will form you have to try many more times than there are atoms in the universe, which means by trying over and over again it’s very possible you exhaust all materials before you can get lucky. It can try once a second, so to be sure it succeeds, is has to try 10 to the power of 164 years(hundreds of trillions of years), while the universe is supposed to be just 4.5 billion years(that is half of 10 to the power of 9). But let’s say a protein succeeds at forming once. Because there is no creator and no blueprint, the protein is not fully functioning, might not have immune and reproductive systems, since there is no intent and no knowledge of the need to have those systems. So the protein dies and has to do it again, hoping next time it will do it right, because there is no blueprint, there is no consciousness to remember the data from before. Now let’s say the protein gets it right and manages to stay alive. To form just a single cell, it has to do it 200 times more, because in a simple cell there are hundreds of proteins. So if it succeeds, after all this time, you only have one cell. It still has to keep evolving until you have us. Now all of this is only possible if all laws of the universe exist and work together at the same time to sustain life that might appear(gravity, magnetic field, atmosphere, law of induction etc). Considering that the ozone was formed only in the past 2 billion years, whatever formed would have been damaged by radiation from the Sun. See where the problem with evolution is? Way too many perfect things to happen over way too long a period of time , all by accident. It cannot be done without a blueprint, intelligent design. Like I said, basic math with valid, proven information from chemistry. You can do more research if you want, this is obviously not all there is, it’s just the most basic explanation

[@wooddoc5956]

@@giancarlospiridon9283 Forgive me, but you seem new to this. Your statistical analysis, and the argument from fine-tuning have been refuted many times. It is the MD/PhD (Organic Synthesis) physiology professor in me that makes me hope you can learn something from this. You and I should always be students. First, don't make mistakes from the get-go. The smallest proteins are not 150 AAs long. Look up insulin. One second reaction times? Ridiculous. There wouldn't be drug companies if reactions were that slow. Next, you can not stipulate the results of an evolutionary product the way you did. I bet there were untold reactions that occurred that gave untold numbers of products that turned out to have some sort of what we call function. What if it took only 2 or 5 or ten fragments to make your protein or millions of others like insulin along the way. Apparently it only takes about 300 genes/proteins to sustain life. Look at Craig Ventor's research. There's no evidence proteins just poof out of thin air without catalyst but that is another problem that has evolved over billions of years. Leave it there for now

[@hopeful135]

If there are over 5000 species of mammals on the earth then how did most of them survive since the capacity of the ark would be limited.

[@ianmonk6211]

Around 40% of mammals are rodents. That's one kind. Only two of all rodent kinds went on the ark. Like wise all other unclean kinds. The many species of each kind adapted to their environment as they spread around the earth once leaving the ark.

[@agust2100]

​@ianmonk6211 did you just try and answer his question about creationism with evolution Adaptations are physical or behavioral traits that make an organism better suited to its environment

[@GlobalMycbhNetwork]

Why shouldn't it? The problem is thinking that God did not create evolution as a natural process. It doesn't prevent God from creating on the fly.@@agust2100

[@xX0IRIDIUM0Xx]

I tried to petrify my kitchen table in a short period of time with potassium silicate but it didn't work

[@waynebaker542]

Could a marriage of HydroPlate and Cratastrophic TEctonics answer some questions. The Catastrophic Tectonics has the BAsalt floor of the ocean it would expand putting greater pressure on the Granite BAsalt interface, this would create a weakness in an already weak area, the interface, allowing HydroPlate theory a crack to allow the escape from the undergrand chambers, and this explosion provides the initiation and high speed of the early TEctonics movement. The Atlantic ocean was formed, it would seem to me, by the breakup of Pangea. This allows a big place for the water to go, and possibly some water returnd to the underground chamber.

[@johngeverett]

There are several channels that champion the Young Earth. In my opinion, this channel does the best job of presenting the science. God's peace to you and all your houses!

[@gregjones2217]

Name them and present proof.

[@tmcfaddenva]

I don't see why this did not include a demonstration showing a flume and water flow depositing layers horizontally. A Frenchman made such a film 30 years ago and it was conclusive evidence.

[@PearlmanYeC]

Listening now, so far so good.

[@PearlmanYeC]

excellent guest and interview. sharing.

[@michaelbarry8513]

At what rate of speed is the North American plate moving away from the European plate?

[@stanley1554]

Without a doubt one of the best channels on all of KZbin for supporting Christianity.

[@minitea4315]

Ha, I used to know a geology PhD student and saw him receive a rock sample back from the lab which had dated it for him. He said, “These aren’t the dates I was expecting, no where near.” Having said that, be packed the rocks right back up and sent them again with a note stating the dates he was expecting to see. Lo and behold they came back again with the “right” dates! 🤡

Well I am geophycisist from the Petroleum industry from Brazil 10 years + 4 years on mining now. I am trying and I'll be keep trying to reach you guys. I keep wondering if creationists could formulate a better petroleum system modeling theory that is more profitable than the current one used in the main industry based on evolutionary geology. If that comes to exist with more predictive power that could end up pushing industry upside down. Or at least initially give some good (God given) profit to those creationists.

[@timothykeith1367]

The Balconies Escarpment in Texas is not moving. It is very stable.

[@kattykitters5310]

Amazing that guy can sit there and lie about geology for 35 minutes with a straight face.

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

So he hasn't done research that concluded those things about limestone? Have you tested it yourself with different results? Please share so we can be enlightened. Perhaps you'd like to suggest that Dr James Tour doesn't know what he is talking about either, so life appeared accidentally, creating organisms so complex,a universe with perfectly tuned laws that work in conjunction to sustain life, with no design, all by chance. At best, you made the effort to see the entire video, but I suspect otherwise

[@rubiks6]

I could not find, through Google, anything about shale forming in moving water except *slow-moving* water is mentioned occasionally.

[@helenholdsworth6407]

Surprise Surprise! Google....

[@rubiks6]

@@helenholdsworth6407 - Thank you, Helen. That was very helpful. (Or maybe not.)

[@TheChadPad]

“LENTICULAR SHALE FABRICS RESULTING FROM INTERMITTENT EROSION OF WATER-RICH MUDS- INTERPRETING THE ROCK RECORD IN THE LIGHT OF RECENT FLUME EXPERIMENTS” - Journal of Sedimentary Research, 2010, v. 80, 119-128 Research Article DOI: 10.2110/jsr.2010.005

[@TheChadPad]

@@rubiks6”Lenticular lamination in shales that is due to deposition of water-rich mud fragments most likely records intermittent erosion and transport of surficial muds by currents.”

[@rubiks6]

@@TheChadPad - Stop wasting my time. Provide a citation. _"... most likely ..."?_ That translates to "I don't know."

[@donaloconnell4354]

I was just listening to a video post put up by "Investigators and Cult busters" that is entitled "Noah's Flood Impossible? IDMR's Founder endorsed it". I entered a comment directing people over to you folks for contrasting evidence for (instead of against) the flood. I'm posting this comment in case you are interesting in the seemingly convincing reasons this man gives for claiming that Noah's flood didn't happen. Do you folks read the comments you get?

[@rodrogers6895]

AronRa’s KZbin channel has 8 scientific videos that show the Flood could never have occurred.

[@marculatour6229]

It is always funny to hear little kindergarten children talking about their imaginary friends and it's very interesting for psychological studies. Once they grow older, they can be called "real people". Now they have the behavior of Stone Age people. But it's good to have an imaginary friend as a child, who can reassure you when you're of an age you can't yet understand how the world works, surronded by a lot of crazy childs. Stone Age people were masters at making stone axes and other stone tools. But then someone came up with the idea of explaining the origin of the world. With the knowledge of how to make stone tools. And living in the center of the universe on a flat earth. The result was? The Bible. So you can say, "The Bible is a Stone Age tool for explaining the universe." Modern people are already using laser tools. But nothing prevents anybody from continuing to use Stone Age tools. Maybe in 2 million years of evolution a lot of earthlings reach the level of modern people. Cognitive Dissonance “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” Frantz Fanon

[@lauramann8275]

It's interesting though, the Bible was written after the Stone Age over a period of about 1500 years. Nice try though.

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

Did you know that a human fossil named Otzi was found with waterproof shoes, first aid kit, metal hammer? It shouldn't have happened in such an "old" universe, where humans evolved so "slowly". It's almost like Otzi didn't live millions of years ago. Maybe the dating method is wrong, who knows. What do you think?

[@marculatour6229]

@@giancarlospiridon9283 The problem was, he was lost in the mountains because the navigation app on his smart watch was hacked. So he couldn't found the way back to his time machine and was lost in Stone Age. Time travel is a dangerous sport. I was send back in time to create here on earth chaos, confusion and destruction. I am successful.

[@lauramann8275]

Also, the bible doesn't say the earth is the center of the universe. It doesn't even say center of the solar system. That was Aristotle that said that.

[@marculatour6229]

@@lauramann8275 Yes, the Stone Age people had observatories and knew about the course of the planets. They even knew the diameter and weight of the earth. They could also measure the rotation speed of the iron core of our planet down to the 4th decimal place. You are confused. My work is done.

[@steveindorset]

Watching part 1 again before I watch part 2. Really enjoying these videos. The lady interviewing is absolutely brilliant how she guides the conversation to the most important information and then get the guy to tie it all together at the end. She is so talented. This is a real gifting. 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@kobuswentzel]

Where did all the water go?

[@stevesherman1743]

It’s still on Earth. The mountains were raised up, and the valleys were laid low.

[@mmaimmortals]

It’s in the oceans where it belongs. You have to have a messed up view in your head to think the continents sat still, look much like they do today, water filled up the planet to above today’s mountains, then went away somehow. None of that makes sense in real physics. Nor does asking where the water went. A better question would be “How did the land get submerged then re-emerge?” Or “Why do we go from basement rock on the continents to Flood sediment with virtually nothing in between?” Both lead to ideas about real Flood mechanisms.

[@thatguy-uy9qx]

​@@mmaimmortalsever heard of continental drift

[@mmaimmortals]

@@thatguy-uy9qx Sure. What about it?

[@quailshootr6389]

Earth is a planet? A spinning ball in space? That is not what the Bible says or even hints to.

[@mathiso01]

Isaiah 40:22

[@quailshootr6389]

@@mathiso01 strongs exhaustive concordance defines Isaiah 40:22 "circle" in Hebrew is "chug" = "circle " "compass " or "circuit ". Not "ball".

[@mathiso01]

@@quailshootr6389 are you on drugs? They also had sundials & Job 26:7. Put all that together and what do you have?

[@bradleymilton1720]

Why would the Bible describe the earth as a planet, since it was written before science and astronomy proved what it actually is and not from what could only be observed and presumed standing on a locally flat and apparently stationary surface?

[@quailshootr6389]

@@bradleymilton1720 Science has not proven Earth is a spinning ball in space. My observation makes it clear to me that is not the case, especially when I can use what "science" tells me as far as Earth curvature and the means to calculate that by using math. i. e 6" per mile squared. When I can see mountains hundreds of miles away when they clearly according to "science" should be under the horizon, or when ships can spot lighthouses from distances that should not be possible, or when NASA draws composites of Earth from space and fakes Moon landings and space travel, I know that we are not being told the truth about where we are, or who we are. As far as the Bible, it describes accurately that the stationary Earth is the center of everything, with the Sun, Moon and Stars all circling above within the firmament dome.

[@jimmycranier3668]

Unconformity fascinates me.

[@chrispark2698]

Dr. Walt Brown's work on the evidence for the flood changed my life. Anyone interested in flood evidence needs to read his stuff. He's got it all for free online.

[@stevesherman1743]

His book is “In the Beginning”. It’s at High School level or in parts college level.

[@LeonSemiPro]

He's a PHD in Mechanical Engineering. There would not be many scientists at all in geology, physics, biology, chemistry, or palaeontology who are Creationists. Probably 1 or 2 percent only.

[@chrispark2698]

@@stevesherman1743 Dr. Walt Brown is an MIT PhD Mechanical Engineer who spent over a decade developing the research he put into his work.

[@KenJackson_US]

Indeed. And the "Bryan Nickel" KZbin channel presents his material in hours of excellent video.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@LeonSemiPro The fallacy you're making is called "appeal to authority".

[@robertgillis6245]

Mt. Saint Helen’s carved out a canyon in 9 hours. The canyon could be a twin to The Grand Canyon. The Mount Saint Helen’s canyon has a river running through it as the Colorado River runs through The Grand Canyon. After seeing the devastation the explosion created when Mount saint Helen’s erupted, I can easily believe The Flood carved out The Grand Canyon within a year.

[@crystalclearwindowcleaning3458]

It's great that people are doing empirical science instead of just speculating. Real science will always support the biblical account.

[@stevepierce6467]

I can see that you know nothing about empirical science, probably never having read a book about science ever in your life.

[@infiad1275]

Most scientists don't care about evidence unless it keeps God out of the equation.

[@Hydroverse]

Thanks for all your hard work.

[@angelalewis3645]

This is awesome!

[@TheGeezzer]

_If_ the Grand Canyon _had_ been cut away over 160 million years, wouldn't the edges of the canyon be relatively smooth, as the water would have slowly eroded and polished the sides away? The edges are rough as if cut out by a lot of water in a short time, not a little water over a lot of time!

[@ingvaraberge7037]

Even as one who thinks that the old earth model makes most sense in geology, I agree with your statement. I think the Grand Canyon has to a large extent been shaped by fairly recent catastrophic floodings, as evidenced from the sharp cuttings of the egdes, as you mention. The most likely candidate to have caused such floodings is the young basalts found in the area.

[@ingvaraberge7037]

Since you asked, I decided to check it out. Wikipedia covers the question here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_the_Grand_Canyon_area It says here between 725,000 and 100,000 years ago. That is during the Pleistocene. The Colorado River was dammed at least 13 times during that period.

[@UserRandJ]

@@sciencerules8525 You're dreaming. Wind? Please! What else are you willing to believe. You're a hazard to yourself

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

@@sciencerules8525impossible since the universe is only thousands of years old. Simple science tells us time is the number one enemy for chemicals and molecules, they would have had to appear at the same time, along with the perfectly tuned laws of the universe or not exist at all

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

@giancarlospiridon9283 Impossible since the universe is clearly billions and billions of years old. Don't take my word for it, ask an expert. Call up your local university and ask to speak to a physics professor, anyone will do. Whatever you do DO NOT CALL A CREATIONIST AS THEY ARE NOT A SCIENTIST.

[@lederereddy]

I often wonder why the young Earth creationist geologists don't emphasize the depth, purity, and breath of the individual layers more often. Of course, I'm only a third the way through the video today, but I don't remember much on it from the first time I watched it. But the Grand Canyon, for instance, gives us an amazing cross-section to see the depth and purity of each mineral layer. And I hear the breath of some layers covers hundreds of square miles . Which begs the question, what besides a global flood could even cause these layers?

[@Shytot-1]

For the people of the rest of the world Americans thinking like this is just great, (it's a pity there are not more who think like you in the USA) There are over 300 million Americans living in the richest country in the world, if at least half of them were not uneducated and gullible the people in the rest of the world would not stand a chance. Thank you again. Keep up the good work.

[@jerrymillersr.9789]

I have a question about oil we get oil from dinosaurs right than why's is it we have dinosaurs at the top of the ground it doesn't make sense

[@mmaimmortals]

No, we don’t get oil from dinosaurs. If we do, it’s only a tiny fraction of the source. Besides that, the dino fossils that are on the ground (at ground level) don’t represent all the dinosaurs that have ever lived.

[@jimksa67]

The interviewer missed the obvious. The reason the world denies the young age of the flood is that to acknowledge it is to acknowledge the viability and veracity of the Bible and also what God says about their personal judgement because of the original Sin.!

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

Then since the Bible is wrong about the age of the earth, it must be wrong about that too. Your argument works both ways, except not a single scientist gives one thought to the veracity or not of any religious text, they simply follow evidence. It is only people trying to preserve their religious dogma to that work backwards from preconceived ideas.

[@MastaE2288]

General question. Do people simply turn a deaf ear to these videos when it clearly exposes the lies that are preached into our hearing since before we can read?

[@kylethedalek]

@@StudentDad-mc3puHow? Plus how many times does science get it wrong? There evidence can be wrong, corrupted and so on.

[@moggpiano8043]

No. The world denies the flood because it did not happen. Christianity is not the only religion.

[@nonprogrediestregredi1711]

​@kylethedalek "Plus how many times did science get it wrong?" Please tell me you're joking. First, science is a methodology that has been refined in different ways over the centuries; it is not an entity unto itself "gets it wrong". Secondly, of course things have been incorrect about certain hypotheses in the past. In case you are unaware, scientists have gotten newer and better data as the years have gone by. Your question would be analogous to me asking you why you didn't know everything that you know now when you were four years old. Get it? If you find the scientific method so untrustworthy, perhaps you should not be on the internet, as it was scientists that are almost exclusively responsible for the invention of this medium. Remember, "there (*their*) evidence can be wrong, corrupted and so on" for this internet to be working properly. Somehow, I'm guessing that you are accepting of this research; it's almost certainly the findings that you don't like that you not very accepting of.

[@lewtube6436]

I found this hard to follow, Too much fast talk and too much material covered in a short time. Some diagrams would have been a great help.

[@zerosteel0123]

This is so interesting

[@bradleymilton1720]

Don't you mean the CHARACTER from ancient stories called LORD, is CLAIMED by the book's writers to have done this and that?

[@davidjanbaz7728]

God isn't a character but you sound like mini mouse.

[@bradleymilton1720]

@@davidjanbaz7728 Mini mouse? Great, you just named another fictional character! 2 for 2! Don't stop now, your on a roll! 😉

[@jamesherron9969]

And all of this, they will ignore the fact that the Jewish Bible, which is where their Bible comes from comes from another religion from the Mesopotamians and then there’s the Indus valley people which we don’t know nothing about they had a written language and they existed before Mesopotamia science isn’t your only problem your religion is

[@bayesianhulk]

The Bible does not teach a global flood. You must use hermeneutics and logic to determine the meaning of a text, not just what it says. Context determines meaning. You don't have to subscribe to YEC in order to "believe" the Bible. The contradiction is with their interpretation of the Bible. YEC is based only on a myopic understanding of Genesis. After that, they perform all sorts of creative hoops in order to posit a way in which their YEC results could have happened or dismiss scientific conclusions and processes.

[@KenJackson_US]

The text tells us that the ark landed in the mountains of Ararat. The base elevation there today is about 6000 feet, agree? And for the ark to come to rest there, the water must have been noticeably higher than that to float the ark, agree? How can you hermeneutically analyze that without realizing even Denver, Colorado would had to have been 1000 feet under water? At that point, why still argue?

[@KenJackson_US]

@@sciencerules8525 Sounds like _you_ believe in a lot of mythology, like the foolish notion that all life evolved from a microbe. Pure mythology unsupported by molecular biology.

[@bayesianhulk]

@@KenJackson_US If the global flood were so cataclysmic, why would the mountains of Arafat still be there? In fact, the landmarks all still seem to be in the same locations. You're assuming that it was a global flood. A local flood could have relocated the ark. More importantly, you're also presupposing a literal interpretation of the text when it's not warranted in Genesis 1-11. What does your genre analysis tell you?

[@bayesianhulk]

@@sciencerules8525 Genre analysis informs us how to approach a particular text. Certainly, there are some miraculous, historical events recorded, but we must be careful with the text.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@bayesianhulk: _"A local flood could have relocated the ark."_ No! It's impossible to have a _"local flood"_ at that altitude that kept the ark afloat for a year. Haven't you heard that water seeks it's own level? *Bayesian:* _"In fact, the landmarks all still seem to be in the same locations."_ No landmarks were mentioned before the flood. Only the "mountains of Ararat", and that really doesn't identify anything. *Bayesian:* _"If the global flood were so cataclysmic, why would the mountains of Arafat still be there?"_ There's not enough information given to know if there were mountains there before the flood or where "there" even was before the flood. We only know about what was there afterwards.

[@freddiefreihofer7716]

So the Biblical Flood took place 4,500 years ago? The good doctor says this right at the very beginning. Make a note of it.

[@robertgillis6245]

I am starting to believe a pre-flood world had one continent Pangea. I believe Pangea broke apart during The Flood. The post-flood world is what people see today.

[@cookclan]

When was the flood?

[@johnberkley6942]

The old testament provides written geneologies that go from the time when the accounts were written down, right back to Adam and Eve. Whether we accept there was or wasn't an Adam and Eve doesn't matter for the purposes of the argument. When you add the 2,000 years of the Christian era, the age generally quoted by Biblical absolutists is somewhere between 4,500 and 6,000 years. This is so far away from the generally accepted age of the earth, and the humans on it, the idea is dismissed by evolutionists and uniformitarians as preposterous. It wasn't always so. With the advent of the theory of evolution, a mechanism for supporting theories in other domains was quickly developed. This became the new 'truth', and the old models were discarded. Over the years any inconvenient 'yes, but' arguments have been ignored, or subsumed into the accepted model in some way to maintain the status quo. The universe, the mind-boggling complexities of DNA and cell machinery take a lot more faith to swallow as deriving from mere chance than they used to, but it's easier to stick to the story you believe. It's scary to honestly confront the possibility there might be an author of the universe. It's easier to hold on to your own autonomy. I'm biased. I believe in the God described in the bible. So of course I'm going to be open to reasoned arguments that support the story that the bible tells.

[@mmaimmortals]

About 4400 years ago.

[@cookclan]

@@mmaimmortals But Egypt is older than that isn't it?

[@kylethedalek]

⁠@@cookclanNo one knows, but many different cultures have spoken about this event.

[@mmaimmortals]

@@cookclan Egypt older than 4400 years? No. Secular archaeologists say it is, but their methods for dating aren’t any better than radiometric dating. Egyptian writings are well known for inflated king reigns and end to end reigns that may actually overlap.

[@utube1818]

I fail to comprehend why theists are so determined to validate the story of Noah's Ark. Accepting this narrative as fact entails acknowledging the ensuing flood caused by god, resulted in the deaths of thousands, if not millions of people, ultimately making god a mass murderer.

[@michaelanjin1327]

Tedious

[@daviddrake8433]

Whatever you do, do not study the geology of the Colorado Plateau in detail as that region has countless, beautiful examples of geology that absolutely shatters any idea of a young earth. Please explain how a YEC would "create" the 5000+ feet of Paradox formation evaporite salts cycled with thirteen zones of deep oceanic anoxic shales? This is not up for interpretation; they have been mining this formation for decades.

[@hahna77]

It's because your science is skewed and uses methods & lies to manipulate what you're taught. Just as carbon dating has been proven to be bunk science, your entire idealogy is based on blind faith and no actual data, proof or evidence.

[@mmaimmortals]

Interesting. I would like to see some high resolution photos of these formations. But the fact that you’re calling them evaporites means you’ve already interpreted them. And incorrectly at that. 5000 feet? How many of those feet are above sea level? And how did marine deposits get on the continents? That sounds like water was where it wasn’t suppose to be. Like a flood.

[@RodericGurrola]

Loved this. 🫶🏻

[@marculatour6229]

Larry asked: "Do people really believe this religious Mumbo Jumbo?" InfoArtist answers: "Only wise people." He is right! Yes, only wise people belive in mumbo jumbo aliens. I got God out of my head. For thousands of years he has only been doing nonsense but not saving mankind. He has to find a new home. I won't him anymore feed through. I filled my vacated headspace with something similar and maybe better. A concrete finding is. Nothing earthly can have created our earth. Nothing from our dimension can have created this dimension. So God is a fifth dimensional extraterrestrial. Now, when I realize what that means, I have to run away screaming. I think I lost my second god. But, and this makes me really happy, I found out that our universe works without the help of extraterrestrials. Of course, I can't judge how things work in other universes. Maybe the people there are dependent on the help of an extraterrestrial. Or do you mean there are no other universes with other gods? I think, the possibility that other aliens created their own universes is very high. But even so, I still have the desire to run away screaming. Imagine any god touching you with his alien fingers. Zach Braff: "There are almost 5000 gods being worshipped by humanity. But don't worry ...only yours is right."

[@trippwhitener9498]

Funny how concrete takes less than an hour to harden, yet mountains of rock made up of basically the same stuff has to take millions of years. Very interesting.

[@terencejay8845]

Because concrete is an exothermic reaction, using materials to achieve that exact effect.

[@marcomclaurin6713]

I have evidence in my video 'Begining of understanding ' I demonstrate transfiguration of the universe by electrical process God bless your work

[@williamhoward2731]

I wish to thank you for sharing this informational Pod Cast with me .

[@samuelrodriguez9199]

The Bible is always going to prove true in the end. Always.

[@paulbriggs3072]

New York State is vast amounts of shale quite thick across the southern two thirds of western, central,, and part of the eastern portion of the state. It is thousands of feet thick and much of it is thin layers as thin as a coin. Other layers are what is called massive shale up to 18" thick. Some of it is a kind of siltstone/mudstone or sandstone/siltstone. This extends into Pennsylvania and Ohio and beyond. All water laid sediment.

[@UserRandJ]

It was a serious event, across the globe. Massive

[@mrazyone]

13028 as the bible says

[@nathancook2852]

I have a few questions. Please help. Why are there no human remains, or even remains of modern organism found with the dinosaurs? The number of elephants and the food it would take to feed them would take up almost 60% of the Ark by themselves. How did all the other animals fit on the Ark? How did the polar bears make it to the North Pole (along with all the other arctic species that would need to make that journey) if the ark landed somewhere in the Middle East? How did all those arctic organisms survive on the ark in the first place? A flood of that magnitude would destroy every terrestrial plant and all the seeds that produce them How did those plants repopulate the earth. What did the humans and animals eat once they got off the ark? There is not plant life at that point.

[@GlobalMycbhNetwork]

"Why are there no human remains, or even remains of modern organism found with the dinosaurs? " For the same reason you don't find them with elephant bones. And many animals separate themselves from others and need different ecological supports. "The number of elephants and the food it would take to feed them would take up almost 60% of the Ark by themselves" They only needed a pair of the kind. Even evolution had to start off with a pair of woolly - Eritherium is the smallest, oldest and most primitive elephant ancestor discovered. It grew to about 60cm, fed on wet vegetation... - gotta love science! "How did the polar bears make it to the North Pole (along with all the other arctic species that would need to make that journey) if the ark landed somewhere in the Middle East?" What do you know of the earth's geology and climate at that time? You don't think it was just like today do you? Answer for yourself, what did the polar bear do during the ice age? Did it travel with the cold temps and ice flows down to the southern parts of the earth and then follow it back? "A flood of that magnitude would destroy every terrestrial plant and all the seeds that produce them How did those plants repopulate the earth." Seeds are very hardy things. Some can survive 15 years in adverse conditions including flooding and still germinate when the conditions are right. Seeds have also been found in birds, floating on water, on floating debris, on dead animals. trees floating on the water, animal dung, etc. "What did the humans and animals eat once they got off the ark? There is not plant life at that point." As answered before, by that time many plants were already growing - it only takes 30 days for radishes to grow and moringa to get harvested - you really should get out of the city more and discover God's green earth in the countryside. It's wonderful!

[@amilias1000]

Nowhere in the Bible does it say the Earth is Young.

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Clearly, you haven't read the first chapter... or you have a real problem with the word 'day'.

[@amilias1000]

@@v1e1r1g1e1 yes I know what a day is. These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens. All of creation is summarized as a day and the word (generations) is used. 6 days are not generations.

[@dekutree64]

How do you explain the soot in the KT boundary layer? If everything had been underwater before and after its deposition, it would be difficult to burn any significant amount of material.

[@whyaskwhybuddry]

@dekutree64, Easily. During the initial stages of the Flood there would be massive plums of volcanic activity falling down and scorching everywhere until the water levels rose high enough on the Continents to put them out.

[@billwebb554]

@@whyaskwhybuddry Hi, that's pretty much an assumption. How do we know there was volcanoes during the flood and for a very fine thin layer of ash to settle so evenly around the world during a catastrophic global flood with tsunamis and volcanoes and chaos everywhere wouldn't happen. From what I understand, this thin layer has iridium in it which is commonly found in asteroids. Also. This would make sense with the asteroid impact that appears to have ended the dinosaurs. Pointing to an older date for God's creation

[@billwebb554]

From what I understand that appears to be from the asteroid that is a possible explanation for ending the dinosaurs. It also has iridium in it which is commonly found in asteroids. The fact that it is global and it is above all known dinosaur fossils indicates the asteroid is probably the most likely cause of it. Which then would point to a older date for God creating everything

[@whyaskwhybuddry]

@oldearthcreationguy6082 The problem with the "Dinosaur Impact Theory", is that the Gulf of Mexico is over 2,000 miles from the Morrison Formation in the American and Canadian West. At best, such an impact would cause a Tsunami only a few hundred miles inland. The Morrison formation is a mass grave of both ocean creatures, Dinosaurs and modern birds buried in a Watery sediment. Many longed necked Dinos are in the asphyxiation pose as they had their heads up trying to breathe before becoming buried by another Moon Driven layer of Flood Sediment. The other thing to consider is that volcanic ash is a huge catalyst for fossilization. Just 2 yrs after Mt St Helens erupted, trees that were known to be 20 yrs old were found fossilized. Fossilization doesn't take millions or even thousands of years. It can be done in 3 weeks in a University Lab with biologic material rapidly buried under high pressure Watery sediment with just a little heat.

[@mmaimmortals]

@dekutree64 Land would be intermittently exposed during the Flood. With continents moving, the ocean floor being rearranged, and huge tidal waves, tectonic activity would be the norm, hence wide spread volcanism. The ash layers you see are probably volcanic in nature. And even if they were from meteor impacts, it’s still catastrophic and fast. Plenty of opportunity for dust and ash to settle onto exposed land and on water to soon be docked on land as tides move in and out. And it isn’t as uniform as you suppose anyway. In the western US there are dinosaur fossils at ground level all over the place. Which means no ash layer above them. And they are mixed in marine sediments. Which sharply contradicts the dino extinction story assumed by evolutionists. How did the marine sediments get 3000 feet (much higher in some places) above sea level and drown the dinosaurs? Also, the alleged impacted is to the Southeast, but the sediment cross bedding seems to be coming from the Northwest and moving to the Southeast. And the erosional remnants of the Grand Canyon are moving toward the Southwest. That doesn’t make any sense if the cause of the mass kill was Chixalub.

[@gn7344]

There is no science that confirms scripture.

[@giancarlospiridon9283]

Yes there is, even the resurrection of Jesus was proven. If you already didn’t believe it would have been impossible for men to make a 3d imprint of front, back and inside bones with all injuries on a flat surface in that period, check the latest research with newest technology, scanned it different ways, all concluding it happened. Also there are historical records (made by non-christians) attesting to the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus

[@RealHooksy]

There was no global flood

[@UserRandJ]

There was a massive tectonic global flood.

[@RealHooksy]

@@UserRandJ no there wasn’t. That’s not even close to correct. No one who knows anything about the geological history of earth believes that. It’s an untrue statement with no facts to back it up. Try again.

[@stephenrobbins6353]

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[@stuartofblyth]

24:35 The car passes my window at 30 mph. I second ago it was 44 feet down the road. 1 minute ago it was half a mile down the road. 1 hour ago it was 30 miles down the road. This time yesterday it was 720 miles down the road. This time last year it was crossing the Moon's orbit, inbound. At which point does extrapolation end and fantasy begin?

[@kennethcoleman5346]

When you need the car passing the moon to prove there is no God, it can't be fantasy! It's an indisputable scientific fact. The debate is over. All credible scientists know the car passes the moon. Now, where's my tenured teaching position offer?

[@MusicManWes]

Can't hear him... His voice trails off. Her voice is loud and clear.

[@bonnielucas3244]

Been an enthusiastic fan of ICR for a long time.

[@guyjoslin7682]

The stones bear witness. Watch is Genesis history

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

turns out it isnt.

[@HS-zk5nn]

indeed its great

[@gregjones2217]

As usual, you twist reality to fit your fairytale. Grow up drop the mythology.

[@CompostWatcher]

nope

[@aliced7505]

Great video and comments. I'm learning from all. Thanks!

[@carminefragione4710]

The Grand Canyon was formed by a Lava Flow of volcanic activity flowing over a SEA BED and buried a RIVER of water under the rock. Over time the river washed out the sea bed, to form a canyon under the earth and the ceiling of rock fell in , and formed the Grand Canyon. Such events happen all over the Earth , but I cannot say it all happened at the same time.

[@mmaimmortals]

I think it is pretty obvious that the GC is the result of receding sheet flow. It’s the fractile nature of the rim geometry that gives it away.

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

Have either of you run these hypotheses past actual geologists or do you find it safer to only share them with folks who occupy the same echo chamber that you inhabit?

[@mmaimmortals]

@@Mxxx-ii9bu The model I am describing came from scientists. We have open discussions on these topics so that secular geologists can participate if they wish.

[@carminefragione4710]

@@Mxxx-ii9bu Geologists are not gods. It took Albert Einstein to disprove traditional claims of what Gravity was, as a force of attraction between two objects, or some outside force pulling all matter down through a vortex of a fabric of space time that deflects objects to collect themselves being pushed , not pulled .

[@Mxxx-ii9bu]

So you haven't run these hypotheses past any geologists or other actual scientists. Why not?

[@brianakers1902]

Hilarious, thanks for the comedy skit!

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

Clearly, you have not the slightest understanding of how rocks are formed.

[@brianakers1902]

@@v1e1r1g1e1 lol. Thanks again for the laughs!

[@iancole931]

Creationists are delusional.

[@marculatour6229]

But everyone can believe that our Earth is only 6000 years old. That only depends on are you a fool or not. I think our earth and universe are only 2 days old and where conjured up by an extraterrestrial. All geologic features we see are conjured up 2 days ago and there exist no natural processes. This is true. A lot of humans are to stupid to see the truth. Making an absurdity even more absurd automatically makes that absurdity true. This you can see in the The Great Book Of Fantasy And Fiction. In a foreign language it is named by some extraterrestrials E-L-B-I-B-E-H-T. I am a preacher. I am the creator of the truth. We are the preachers. We are the creators of the thruthes. I tried very hard to became a believer. But nobody wants to remove the parts of my brain who are responsible for rationality.

[@roblangsdorf8758]

The current national religion of atheism needs long, long ages for evolution to take place. But DNA is too complex to be produced by mistakes in any length of time, so even billions of years are not enough.

[@StudentDad-mc3pu]

How do you know that?

[@roblangsdorf8758]

@@StudentDad-mc3pu Basic probabilities. Have you done any computer programming? Were you able to produce millions of lines of code by randomly tapping your keypad? You can't get meaningful code by such a method.

[@redearth8256]

​@@roblangsdorf8758that's not even close to how evolution happens. Do you appreciate how long 4 billion years is? A million seconds is around 11 days, a billion seconds is around 33 years.

[@astrawboiii1853]

@@redearth8256even trillions of years wont matter, search it up

[@roblangsdorf8758]

@redearth8256 Please explain to us how non-directed evolution takes place? BTW, James Tour has done an excellent job of showing that modern scientists have not even been able to find a way to produce the basic chemical compounds that are necessary for life. And this is with scientists doing very careful planning. Have you reviewed his work?

[@KenJackson_US]

How can anyone explain the continent-scale hydraulically-sorted fossil-bearing miles-deep layers of sediment that cover the whole earth if not from the obvious worldwide flood?

[@KenJackson_US]

@@sciencerules8525 You wouldn't have any pure sandstone layers if it hadn't been hydraulically sorted during the flood.

[@KenJackson_US]

@@sciencerules8525: _"Sandstone can easily form from sedimentation in a shallow tranquil sea."_ You haven't thought about this. How could the slow deposition of sediment over billions of years produce a pure sandstone layer and then sharply switch to laying down slate and then sharply switch to laying down limestone? We see this over continent scale megasequences all over the world. And there's no evidence that any layer was the surface of the earth for even a couple years. No erosion. No burrowing animals. The sharply distinct layers are EVIDENCE of very rapid deposition and hydraulic sorting.

[@charynfrances294]

Thank you for such a wonderfully clear explanation

[@jessemitchem3880]

Rad. This false idol of scientism is crumbling brick by brick, and geology lies are their cornerstone. Amen for the destruction of this false temple, Elijah! All the best!!!

[@user-ql5ds4li3u]

The Bible is God ALMIGHTY. And Jesus are LORD and Savior has an is and always will be the real facts,the only truth.

[@stewybrooks]

Being a geologist does he even know about mudfossils?

[@bearingwitnesslive]

When you ask why we aren't being taught these things, remember who the god of this world is, the evil one! Who is he? He is the deceiver!!!

[@Kriil]

You mean Trump?

[@leenonolee4629]

If ICR is using the Masoretic text, eg KJV, then the dating timeframe is incorrect. The LXX is IMHO a better way to go as it has not been deliberately corrupted as the Rabbis after Akiva (his תלמידים) did.