CNC Router - NEVER DO THIS with your CNC Router Bits and Collets

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IDC Woodcraft

IDC Woodcraft

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@dnelsongb
@dnelsongb Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for this guy, I wouldn't be going down the path that I am. Excellent advice, training, customer service and of course, the products! Thank you Garret Fromme!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
dnelsongb, I'm truly humbled and glad to be a part of your cnc journey my friend!
@michaeljansen5188
@michaeljansen5188 11 ай бұрын
Good to know! I'm new to CNC, and this is info I haven't found anywhere else. This is the type of thing they should tell you right off the bat!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
MichaelJansen, right on brother! Glad to hear this helped you.
@mrslmenardstm3030
@mrslmenardstm3030 Жыл бұрын
I was assigned to a classroom with a Laguna IQ CNC machine. I had no experience with CNC and I'm learning on my own. Your videos have helped me so much. Luckily, our machine has an enclosure because I caused a bit to snap last week. I did exactly what you described. I plan to spend the summer break watching more of your videos and the training from the company so my students can use the machine safely in the fall. Thank you for this video!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Menard, an enclosure is a good idea brother! Safety is #1!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Menard, an enclosure is a good idea brother! Safety is #1!
@HowardMcCall-ju4zw
@HowardMcCall-ju4zw Жыл бұрын
This is very helpful instructions on proper setup for router bits. The safety side on this video is very important. A sharp bit spinning at 25,000 rpm’s and coming at you is a very scary proposition. 10:05 pm
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Howard, glad to hear this one helped brother! Can never be too safe.
@ozguzzi
@ozguzzi Жыл бұрын
After years of running Bridgeports, and milling machines, you are 100% correct!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ozguzzi, glad to hear it my friend.
@rwilb2
@rwilb2 8 ай бұрын
This is a very useful video. Watch it *before* you start playing with your CNC router.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
rwilb2, so glad to hear that brother! Happy CNCing.
@BuiltByChris
@BuiltByChris Жыл бұрын
Finally, something I can understand. Well presented. I've been guilty of most of the "don'ts" you mentioned. So far, I've been very lucky it would seem. Thanks for explaining this in such a way that even I can understand it. Cheers from Australia, mate. 🇦🇺🇺🇸👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Chris, right on brother! Glad to hear this one helped you.
@edmundcox9224
@edmundcox9224 Ай бұрын
One more thing about the Makita Button stop for the shaft is, on a gantry, you SHOULD use both the wrenches to tighten the collet and NEVER just one wrench and the stop button. The single sided force then gets transfered into the rigidity of the z-axis mechanism/gantry and WHY would you want to reef on your z axis and gantry every time you tighten/loosten your collet. ALWAYS use both wrenches when doing a full tighten. Like you said, use the button to finger tighten and initially hold the bit ONLY, and ALWAYS use both wrenches for final set/tighten so NO force gets tranfered into your z-axis mechanism/gantry. Love yer videos Garrett, I've learned SO much from your instruction, Thank YOU! (edited: I spelled yer name wrong :) )
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Ай бұрын
edmundcox9224, You make an excellent point about using both wrenches to tighten the collet. It’s important to avoid putting unnecessary strain on the Z-axis and gantry. I appreciate your kind words and I'm glad to hear you've learned so much from the videos!
@DJRHurls
@DJRHurls 2 ай бұрын
This has to be the most informative CNC video I have seen on KZbin. Thank you for the info.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 ай бұрын
DJRHurls, You're welcome! I'm glad you found the video informative!
@carlbenson6600
@carlbenson6600 9 ай бұрын
as always great information, clear and well explained, I've had this problem myself and broke the beast, after a conversation with Garret I changed the way I chucked up to this method , the visual presentation of that conversation has improved the way I work even more, thanks Garret and team you keep us all going in the right direction.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
Carl, you're so welcome brother! I'm glad having the video to reference from our conversation was helpful! I'm happy to be a part of your cnc journey and hopefully make things a little easier along the way! Happy cutting!
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop
@LYTOMIZE_Woodshop Жыл бұрын
This has to be the most comprehensive tutorial I've seen on this subject... and since I've seen most or close to all of your videos, it's great that you have condensed past thoughts and tips on the subject in this one video. Thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, I am so glad to hear it brother.
@JustinDesilva
@JustinDesilva Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is a great lesson to learn. Over tightening is one if the reasons I do my own car repairs. Too many times bolts and nuts are excessively over tightened leading to stripped heads and threads.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Justin, exactly! I'm glad the video was helpful brother, it's definitely similar to tightening down bolts on the car to the right torque specs and not over doing it. Couldn't have said it better myself! Happy cutting!
@DannyCarter-q2d
@DannyCarter-q2d Ай бұрын
As a newbie I found this video extremely helpful. You do great work.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Ай бұрын
DannyCarter-q2d, Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you found the video helpful.
@paramoose
@paramoose Жыл бұрын
Solid info as always Garrett!! I had always been taught & heard to never bottom out your bits but never an explanation as to why. My father taught me to bottom out the bit then pull out about 1/4 inch or to clear the flutes. He always maintained that the shank should always be inserted to the length of the collet at a minimum for maximum grip. He did have a tendency to firm on the the clamping pressure tho. I can attest to how scary it is to have a bit snap on you!! Was using a good sized ogee bit in a 1-1/2HP router and it snapped just above the body of the bit. I was taking multiple light passes in a piece of walnut but it was a cheap bit. Thank the Lord it flew away from me when it snapped as it blew through the drywall 10 feet away from me!!! If it had come the other way I'd be sporting a new belly button at best and I don't want to think about the worst case scenario!!!!!! After that I have sworn off trying to save a $1 on those cheap bits!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paramoose, glad to hear this one helped you brother! I could see your fathers perspective and he has some very good points.
@HowToFromMeToYou
@HowToFromMeToYou Жыл бұрын
Great video for those new cnc owners that perhaps never touched a trim router before. Seems like common sense to most of us but maybe not to those who DON'T run these kind of tools all the time
@IronCreekSW26
@IronCreekSW26 Жыл бұрын
24:06 Common sense is far too uncommon.
@HowToFromMeToYou
@HowToFromMeToYou Жыл бұрын
@B. Koehli, KC (retired) agreed, there's a whole lot of stupid out there
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Steve, glad to hear it. It is a good lesson in safety for sure!
@billysmether6237
@billysmether6237 Жыл бұрын
Great video! These are points that most people are unaware of. Because no one talks about it. I also have machines enclosed for extra protection. The bit can turn into a bullet.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Billy, glad to hear you liked this one my friend.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Billy, glad to hear you liked this one my friend.
@AlistairMc
@AlistairMc Жыл бұрын
extremely useful points made. I have been a woodworker all my life and never looked into this subject in this detail. I thought I knew it all. But don't we do that.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Allistair, never quit learning brother! It will pay off in the end.
@BertramRe
@BertramRe Жыл бұрын
How did you know that was my question left over from last night?? Perfect timing! Thanks so much for creating these videos!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Rebecca, you are so welcome. I want to make sure you are off to the right foot.
@kenmoon8647
@kenmoon8647 2 ай бұрын
Great information. Glad someone is teaching about using the CNC and answering a lot of questions. It’s greatly appreciated
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 ай бұрын
kenmoon8647, Thank you for the kind words! I'm passionate about CNC woodworking and happy to share my knowledge.
@daviddanboise1601
@daviddanboise1601 Жыл бұрын
Great information. I hope new users will take this seriously. Thanks Garrett!!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
David, glad to hear it brother! You are so welcome.
@boomheadshot369
@boomheadshot369 7 ай бұрын
Glad I saw this video before playing with CNC for the first time. Very helpful!!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
boomheadshot369, im so glad to hear it brother!
@centralseac
@centralseac Жыл бұрын
Great video. A good security feature is to install an anti-wobble micro-switch to the router mount which disconnects the router relay and cuts the power to the router when a pre-calibrated wobble is achieved. Imagine the centrifugal force of 10 grams, offset at a 45° angle, spinning at 16,000 RPM´s, let alone that massive bit in the video, it´s going to shake the hell out of the machine, maybe even rip the router, and its mount, off the crossbar. People are always all too willing to try and beat the system to get things done. A flying router bit, big or small is a lethal projectile that will kill you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Raymond, that is a great idea brother! All good points.
@Dta1996
@Dta1996 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always. Would like to see more information on the longer bits. I have been very frustrated with them as they tend towalk out and destroy my project. Maybe feeds and speeds? They care so useful when needing to do a deep pocket. Thanks Doug
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Doug, feeds and speeds for long bits can be tricky but for those longer bits, slower feeds tends to be safer.
@warrenbrown8670
@warrenbrown8670 Жыл бұрын
Great content, every CNC user should view.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Warren, glad to hear it brother!
@roy.h.barrett
@roy.h.barrett Жыл бұрын
Garrett, Thank you Brother.. your content is ALWAYS germane and informative!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Roy, you are so welcome brother.
@windmillbk
@windmillbk Жыл бұрын
Great video. You have the best videos to learn by. Also now I know that there is a button on my router to stop the shaft so I can get the bit to hold before tightening it.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
CrSpices, glad to hear you liked this video brother! The button is great for holding the bits for sure.
@dfedx1726
@dfedx1726 Ай бұрын
this has helped me to make sure i am safe with my cnc. thank you
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Ай бұрын
dfedx1726, I'm glad to hear that! Safety is so important in woodworking.
@joedowney6082
@joedowney6082 Жыл бұрын
This is very useful information that everyone should be aware of. Thanks for this useful video. Great job explaining the safety aspects.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Joe, I am so glad to hear this one helped you brother!
@DanGoodchild
@DanGoodchild Жыл бұрын
Very helpful! It's good to have a simple rule or two tucked away in the back of my mind to guide my setup process; thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dan, right on glad you enjoyed this one.
@JTs3DPrints
@JTs3DPrints 9 ай бұрын
Great video, much appreciated! Safety always first. It can protect your bits, machine, and self. Solid Advice!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
Jeff, you bet! I couldn't agree more brother, safety should always comes first!
@meikatompai498
@meikatompai498 Жыл бұрын
I always learn something from your videos Garrett. Thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Meika, you are so welcome my friend.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Meika, you are so welcome my friend.
@TomBurgwald
@TomBurgwald 11 ай бұрын
This is a good video. It will help me on my routers that aren't in a cnc
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear this video helped you brother! Proper chucking of bits is important no matter the tool used.
@JohnAshmore-vz7wl
@JohnAshmore-vz7wl Жыл бұрын
Garrett Good job It always amazes me, how many people skips the basics One thing you might have mention is some collets and collet nuts snap together making 2 pieces into one , they have a. Tendency for the nut to not tighten up properly. Also you where talking about the hardness of router bits ,I have drop them on the concrete floor and damage to them I do look them over careful I throw away and that hard but not taking a chance I have had boards and other thing get loose and do have small wounds lucky nothing real serious 24:13 Play safe
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
John, you are exactly right brother! Cant be more safe in the shop.
@OhSueZQue
@OhSueZQue Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm super new to cnc and this was very helpful info for me!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Susie, you're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful!
@stephenfirlotte7712
@stephenfirlotte7712 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, i'm still learning. Keep up the great work. I was wondering if a guideline could be placed on bits in the manufacturing process??
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Stephen, thanks brother! The guide line is an interesting idea, I've have a similar thought like that too. I'll keep you in the loop!
@NickZykov-qy7ln
@NickZykov-qy7ln Жыл бұрын
Super interesting and helpfulI video I dont even own a CNC machine yet but Like to learn so when i do buy one I will have Good habits and knowledge. Thanks i wish for more videos
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Nick, welcome to the amazing world of CNC my friend! I'm glad the videos have been helpful so far and I'm looking forward to you getting your machine and seeing what you create!
@georgenavarre5481
@georgenavarre5481 Жыл бұрын
Great video Garret safety first Thank you...
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
George, I couldnt have said it better myself!
@claudej1894
@claudej1894 Жыл бұрын
Very straightforward guide. Good info. Thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Claude, you are so welcome!
@lluttrell1913
@lluttrell1913 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another useful video. Answered a couple questions I’ve had recently.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Lyle, I am so happy to hear that my friend!
@pony10000
@pony10000 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Garrett. While I do not agree that it's ok for a bit to go all the way up and bottoming out (there should always be a clearance of the thickness of a piece of paper), this video should be mandatory viewing for anyone buying a CNC. Pony
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Pony, great points brother. Glad you liked this one.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Pony, great points brother. Glad you liked this one.
@JKArgonis
@JKArgonis 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Garrett especially from this newbie of CNC. Here's a thought. Why don't they just add/engrave recommended place markers on the bits like on a car dip stick? Anyway, I appreciate the lesson. I am an extremely new beginner to the CNC (a 30x30 Longmill CNC 🙂, even watched your review) and this helps me understand and do things correctly. Cheers!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
JKArgonis, Excellent suggestion brother. I'll have to keep that in mind for the future!
@satxsatxsatx
@satxsatxsatx Жыл бұрын
New info for me, thank you for the extremely Important instruction
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Len, glad to hear this helped brother!
@K-politic
@K-politic Жыл бұрын
you should not bottom out the bit into the hole. It causes the bit to slide in the sides of the ER collect and can damage them. Also can prevent you from correctly tightening the ER collect correctly because you now have 2 forces pushing and not just 1. if you bottom out, just back off 1/4 inch or 5-6mm. This said, I think this is a great video for people. very educational.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
K, good call my friend. I could definitely see your perspective on this one.
@K-politic
@K-politic Жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft we all learn from each other. I have learned allot from your videos and enjoy them.
@alfredforbrich4836
@alfredforbrich4836 5 ай бұрын
Great info!!! Thanks for keeping me safe with all the great safety tips.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
Alfred, thanks brother! I'm glad it was helpful for you!
@KennithPhinneyII
@KennithPhinneyII Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing these videos always helpful 😊
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Kennith, you are so welcome brother!
@JamesKirk-m7e
@JamesKirk-m7e 11 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your presentation this subject. It was loaded with lots of valuable information and I learned a lot. I do have a question about the collets. I don't have a CNC, but I do have routers. I was wondering if the CNC "labled" collets are specific for CNC's or can they be used in handheld routers, as well? I will appreciate and feedback.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
user-ns3nn1ik1n, glad to hear this one helped you brother! Most collets designed for CNC spindles wont fit in a handheld router. I would recommend that you purchase a collet specific for your handheld router my friend.
@henrymallory6614
@henrymallory6614 Жыл бұрын
great video. wish it was around 30 years ago. I had a bit to come went pasts my head and stuck in the wall on the other side of my shop
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Henry, very funny brother! Glad you liked this one.
@mjjeanson
@mjjeanson Жыл бұрын
Sir when you place a bit too far into the spindles/routers drive shaft and bottom it out or you place a large bit against the surface of the nut you are not allowing room for the collet and bit to move into the clamping taper as you tighten the chuck. This will result in a bit that has no place to move. The shaft or body of the bit is now constrained. So as you tighten the collet you will ether produce a side force and or a down force that will cause your bit to have run out and or uneven side pressures on the collet. This will result in the runout ether creating vibration or the side force will let go and thus you will have a loose bit. I have seen this occur numerous times in my CNC guild and at work and thus I highly recommend that you add it into the category of don't do this!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Mjjeanson, you bring up quite a lot of good points brother. I appreciate you sharing your perspective, I will add this to future videos.
@jimpalmer1944
@jimpalmer1944 Жыл бұрын
Good info, will always try to remember.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jim, right on. Keep learning everything you can!
@jeffrichmond4209
@jeffrichmond4209 7 ай бұрын
I have been dealing with routers and bits for all of my adult life and for me the rule of thumb is the bottom of the shank at the end of the collet is perfect inserting beyond that the collet isn’t holding the bit anyways, now on a cnc you can’t always be certian of your depth but as long as I am at least that far in confidence is high
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Jeff, thanks for sharing your insights brother! Your method seems to work well for you my friend and I say keep doing what works best for you! As the saying goes there's a thousand ways to skin a cat! Happy cncing!
@Horizon-m5o
@Horizon-m5o Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Garrett!!, this is valuable information.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Nwnimbleman, you are so welcome!
@atamazon3755
@atamazon3755 9 ай бұрын
Just noticed you have one on one's on your website. That's brilliant.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
atamazon, thanks brother! Kate is an excellent teacher and I know you will get a lot out of booking a one on one with her.
@gregsettle1581
@gregsettle1581 Жыл бұрын
Really good and important information to get out there for the masses, Garrett. Once again, a superior job on the video, with everything explained in perfect detail. Thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
GregSettle, thank you so much for the kind words brother. Im so happy too hear this one helped you out!
@davegirimonte9945
@davegirimonte9945 Жыл бұрын
Hello Garrett I enjoyed the video but my question is what about drill bit collars do you recommend them thanks I just reached out to Kate about one of her tips for painting signs which helped me out
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dave, you dont need drill bit collars brother. It is all controlled in the CNC.
@davegirimonte9945
@davegirimonte9945 Жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft thank you
@rschulz01
@rschulz01 9 ай бұрын
Excellent advice! I will definitely check out your router bits.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
rschulz01, right on brother! I'm looking forward to you trying them out soon!
@rowepjr
@rowepjr Жыл бұрын
Great video Garret. Also do not buy cheap Chinese bits. They break easily. I bought some before I found your site. Although I am in Australia orders still come quickly. I have had a break from CNC as I have been learning laser engraving. I will be getting back into CNC shortly after I install a new spindle on my 6040. Fortunately I have one in stock as I was expecting the spindle to fail eventually as the one supplied was not great quality.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Peter, very good point my friend!
@mikesmith7989
@mikesmith7989 5 ай бұрын
Hey Garrett, just getting started in the CNC world. I just ordered one of your 1.5 surfacing bits. So the 1/3 rule applies for this bit?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
Great question. It applies to all router bits
@Dugsin503
@Dugsin503 Жыл бұрын
Once again great information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and expertise Garrett!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Doug, right on! Glad this one helped.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Doug, right on! Glad this one helped.
@michaelmessuri7746
@michaelmessuri7746 Жыл бұрын
great information and I learned a few things
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, right on brother! Glad to hear it.
@WynandSchoonbee
@WynandSchoonbee Жыл бұрын
Valuable information! Will put it to good user for sure!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
WynandSchoonbee, I'm glad it was helpful brother!
@williambonfiglio5933
@williambonfiglio5933 Жыл бұрын
What about the use of spaceballs to minimize overheating of the bit as well as the sticking of the bit in the router.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
William, using spaceballs is a great idea. I'll have to do some research on that one brother, thanks!
@JoeLazzara
@JoeLazzara Жыл бұрын
Absolutely another great video, Garrett!! This definitely is perfect for the beginner and a good refresher for the folks who've been doing this awhile. We're all guilty of doing this at some point, so this is a great reminder on how to chuck our bits properly and safely. Everyone that watches this will be more mindful of it now. If you ever start to categorize your videos, consider putting this in your "A Beginner's Guide to CNCing with Garrett Fromme" series. 😁❤ I can also help produce it if you'd like....ya know, a Deniro and Scorsese type thing. I think it would be a highly anticipated event.🤣 Coincidentally, I got my new 3/16 compression bit today and I can't wait to use this sucker. 😃👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Joe, I am so happy to hear that this one helped you. You can never be too safe in the shop! Glad to hear you got your new bit!
@Horus4302
@Horus4302 Жыл бұрын
Great timing for this video! Was looking for some tutorials on bits and collets, and there are surprisingly few videos online. Just one question: I have the same Makita router (part of the Bobs CNC Quantum machine). It says it uses 1/4" shank bits, which I bought, but I have to force them into the collet. They don't just slide easily into the collet like in your video. I'm just confused if I need smaller bits, or if I do something wrong. Thanks for the great content Garrett!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
There are two things that could be wrong here. Either your collet is a 6 mm collet or it is just undersized.
@tpsooner7816
@tpsooner7816 8 ай бұрын
Excellent information. Thanks Garrett. I searched for guidance on this when I first got my CNC, but I couldn't find much about it, so it's great you put together such an incredible explanation.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
tpsooner7816, thanks brother! I'm glad to help!
@paradisearcade8386
@paradisearcade8386 Жыл бұрын
Great tips! But I'm sorry, I have to politely disagree with the bottoming out of the bit in the collet. It's got nothing to do with heat transfer or whatever, but if the bit extends past the bottom of the collet (not the cutting side) then as it gets tight, it can stop you from tightening it fully because the collet has grabbed on to the bit before reaching full turns with the nut, especially if you have a collet nut that is quite tight to begin with.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paradise, very good point my friend. I could see your perspective on this one.
@JohnColgan.
@JohnColgan. 7 ай бұрын
Most users of ER collets use ER11 3mm to 1/4" and sizes between , which is significantly smaller than the ER20 you're showing. Ive always been told you need to fully enclose the bit shank within the upper taper can exceed, but not shorter!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
JohnColgan, good points brother! Having the proper clamping on an ER collet is critical.
@superbattlebros5235
@superbattlebros5235 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos!! You explain everything so well!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
SupperBattleBros, thank you brother! Im so glad to hear this one helped you.
@bryansmith1303
@bryansmith1303 7 ай бұрын
Very good video! For your Hog bit which is a down bit. Why not an Up cut bit?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
bryansmith1303, sorry for the confusion on this one brother! The HOG is an upcut!
@rega3160
@rega3160 11 ай бұрын
Garrett, this is a great video! Thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
Rega3160, you are so welcome brother!
@atienne_navarre
@atienne_navarre Жыл бұрын
Good info. I have not seen this said before. So here's my question. I know that they sell them but I was thinking of getting a bunch of shaft collars and putting them on my bits so when I change the bit in the middle of a job I don't have to worry about zero height as much. Is there any chance of throwing off the balance of the bits by doing this? Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
That's a great question! You want to find balanced collars. These are colors that have been spun up and have had material removed in certain spots to make sure they're in balance at high rotation
@TheVideotoaster
@TheVideotoaster Жыл бұрын
Great information
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
TheVideotoaster, glad you liked this one my friend.
@jerrypeevey
@jerrypeevey 9 ай бұрын
I always set mine as far in as it can go and still cut what I want. I do not go more then half way up the bits smooth area. I also use less cut per pass if it is out farther.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
JerryPeevey, great point brother! It sounds like you have a good system there!
@adamtinkers
@adamtinkers Жыл бұрын
Great video, always enjoy your lessons!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Adam, I'm glad it was helpful for you brother!
@timrosenberg4139
@timrosenberg4139 Жыл бұрын
Another great info video! Thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Tim, you are so welcome!
@johnalex3023
@johnalex3023 Жыл бұрын
Probably stating the obvious but, it might be worth mentioning that with ER collets, the collet should be snapped into the nut before putting in the bit, or the nut threading on the spindle.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
John, good point brother!
@cbhoy5527
@cbhoy5527 Жыл бұрын
Good Advice Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
CB1000, no problem. I am happy to help!
@MrDigga53
@MrDigga53 10 күн бұрын
another query covered .... depth of insertion. crystal clear. BUT Why don't IDC mark / engrave /etch the suggested /safe depth on the shaft of the tools ? they can mark the IDC moniker?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 күн бұрын
MrDigga53, I’m glad to hear that the depth of insertion was clear for you! It's a great suggestion to have markings for safe depth on tools. It could enhance safety and ease of use. Ill look into that brother! Thanks for sharing your idea.
@MrDigga53
@MrDigga53 8 күн бұрын
PM incoming ... 🙂
@juanalbertocorniel
@juanalbertocorniel 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for share your knowlege! is there a reduction to 1/8 bits for the Makita router?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
juanalbertocorniel, You're welcome! I sure do have one brother! Here is a link: idcwoodcraft.com/products/makita-1-8-collet
@podman63
@podman63 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks good practise to follow
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Pod, you are so welcome!
@gaiustacitus4242
@gaiustacitus4242 Жыл бұрын
I've literally had end mills explode and send fragments of sharp tool steel flying all around me. One large shard passed so close to my scalp that it touched my hair before embedding in a steel window frame. I've even had a carbide insert pass through the 14 ga. steel machine enclosure and hit the wall beside me as I was walking by. The operator had over tightened the set screw to the point it split, thereby greatly reducing the holding force. Machining can be very dangerous, even when you are an expert journeyman with many years of experience. It is even more dangerous for a hobbyist. Garrett is providing good advice, so pay attention and take it to heart.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Gaius, you can never be too safe around a CNC my friend! Glad to hear you didnt get hurt.
@gaiustacitus4242
@gaiustacitus4242 Жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft Thanks. I've shed my share of blood in shops, but it was most often from burrs slicing open fingers and metal shavings coming through the soles of my work boots. As I tell new workers in a shop environment, everything is actively working to kill you every single day. Don't let that happen.
@garyhome7101
@garyhome7101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information in this video Garrett! Considering the router itself, what is its proper depth in the z bracket? It would seem there's potential for fulcrum force based on leverage from the bit feed if the router extends too far down.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Gary, that is a very good point. You will need to follow the manufacturer recommendations but typically as low as possible is acceptable for this one.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Gary, that is a very good point. You will need to follow the manufacturer recommendations but typically as low as possible is acceptable for this one.
@TimothyNorthcutt
@TimothyNorthcutt 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear this one helped you brother!
@RickDeSantis
@RickDeSantis Жыл бұрын
Thanks Garrett! Great info!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Rick, you are so welcome brother!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Rick, you are so welcome brother!
@louisdeschamps3430
@louisdeschamps3430 10 ай бұрын
Great video my friend !
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
LouisDesChamps, glad to hear this one helped brother!
@skamp69ab
@skamp69ab Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I learned a lot
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Shawn, you are so welcome!
@st0mper121
@st0mper121 Жыл бұрын
I always used as a rule. the hole above the nut i put the bit inside until i see it just start poking inside the hole. I have some things i CNC that is 2.5 in thick. I have had jobs that i had to stop and adjust my bit to get more out of it until i started fallowing that rule of the hole.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
st0mper121, that's a great rule of thumb brother. Thanks for sharing!
@ClinToneCust23
@ClinToneCust23 6 ай бұрын
Actually you dont have the long bit i want.. LOL I ordered the rough cut one but the other ones out of stock.. I put in my email so holler when you got em!! thanks for the videos
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
ClinToneCust23, sorry that one bit is out of stock! Once it is back in, you will be the first to know!
@johnr.deszell2136
@johnr.deszell2136 9 ай бұрын
Great information!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
John, thanks brother! Glad it was helpful!
@gregsettle1581
@gregsettle1581 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Garrett!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
GregSettle, you are so welcome my friend. Thank you for the support
@jodychaffin6265
@jodychaffin6265 Жыл бұрын
My cnc router machine starts cutting real nice but after a few it’s starts to cut on another path can help me out my brother thanks jody
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 11 ай бұрын
Jody, this one is a little tricky to answer via comments. I recommend joining Kate and I for our weekly live sessions we host every Wednesday night at 8PM EST. We should be able to give you some tips and tricks then my friend!
@michelle_jansen
@michelle_jansen 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. Great video.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
michelle_jansen, you are so welcome! Happy to hear this video helped you my friend.
@kensonbaird1521
@kensonbaird1521 Жыл бұрын
GREAT INFORMATION
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ken, I'm glad it was helpful brother!
@benferguson5929
@benferguson5929 Жыл бұрын
On large cutters, I have always gone by the rule of "no more than 2 shank diameters" sticking out (no more than 1/2" on a 1/4" shank bit), that way if it's a different manufacturer with a different shank length you'll still be safe with those big boys
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ben, very true brother. That is a great rule.
@octanekustomguitarworks510
@octanekustomguitarworks510 Жыл бұрын
Off the subject I have a qweenbeepro CNC with mach3 controller card. Can I send files from v carve to mach 3. When I manually import a g code file only half my drawing shows up in mach 3 screen ...or it's really small. I'm trying to CNC guitar body's.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
I don't use Mach 3 very much so I don't really know. But it sounds like you have a conflict between imperial and metric units. If you're using the trial version of Mach 3, it won't do anything past 500 lines of code
@tjacksonwoodworker3726
@tjacksonwoodworker3726 8 ай бұрын
great video. very useful info.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 8 ай бұрын
tjacksonwoodworker3726, right on brother! Glad to hear this one helped you.
@jimking9646
@jimking9646 Жыл бұрын
Another Great Video
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
JimKing, glad to hear it brother!
@bubba6945
@bubba6945 Жыл бұрын
What about using a router collet exstension ?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Ah dang! I forgot to mention that in this video. I'll put it in the description. Thanks
@georgipraskov8223
@georgipraskov8223 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the info
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Georgi, no problem brother! Happy to help.
@charleselkins4546
@charleselkins4546 Жыл бұрын
Good info. Makes sense as well.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
CharlieSelkins, glad to hear it brother!
@dalgguitars
@dalgguitars Жыл бұрын
useful video, thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
DALG, glad to hear it brother!
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