Chevy STOLE Ferrari's Engine To Destroy The Competition

When we heard that Chevrolet was going to build a naturally aspirated V8 that pumped out 670 HP... we thought they were joking.
Well, the joke is on us, because the LT6 V8 in the Z06 Corvette is dominating the supercar space.
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[@IdealMediaChannel]

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[@fannyp1358]

Hey are u guys doing a give away

[@CinderTheSkulldog]

I would buy this, mainly because ferrari is so stupidly strict with their cars you can get a cease and desist

[@nando03012009]

Ferrari. The corvette will depreciate while the Ferrari will only gain value

[@Towardrisk]

That “lay” within, not “lied” within

[@AB-80X]

Ferrari, and I did.

[@getbruhd6087]

If the Z06 is crazy, imagine what the ZR1 will be like.

[@customconnections2425]

No shit man!!

[@jesusrios6008]

Hybrid...

[@WonkOfWonkyness]

Holy shite, YOU'RE RIGHT!

[@zacknusser9755]

Faster but not as high revving unfortunately

[@shaquizzle5548]

Supercharged

[@liamgross7217]

Congrats from Australia on the C8 and it’s high performance versions. The US should pat itself on the back for this piece of engineering.

[@Viper_fanboi]

Chevrolet Corvette C8 Z06, Ah yes the “ultimate budget Supercar slayer”

[@borla4491]

👍.

[@grindersandgears3445]

Until the dealerships mark them up $50k...

[@bruhbiqw6237]

I would say a budget super car it's no longer a super car slayer it is a super car

[@markw9512]

I think using the term “budget” to refer to a vehicle which runs well up over $100k (over $150K with Z07) is kind of silly, that’s well into Mercedes S-Class territory. Cheap it isn’t!

[@ant2011]

@@markw9512 it depends on your budget

[@GeneralCaleb01]

The Z06 is my dream car but I wonder what they will do for the ZR1. imagine a rocket strapped to the back and packing 1000HP.

[@m.m4982]

I seriously doubt any car manufacturer has any plans for rocket powered cars.

[@johnsonw]

LT6 TT or supercharged

[@Mister_Durden]

Its called a Tesla Model S Plaid.

[@Mister_Durden]

@@m.m4982 Tesla Roadster might have cold gas thrusters. Its close.

[@driverjamescopeland]

One thing's for sure... the ZR1 will need forced induction, and a different engine, to top those numbers. Like the 7.0L that debuted in 2003... this engine simply won't tolerate much in the way of power adders. The fatigue life of titanium connecting rods, simply won't stand it for 100,000 miles. If they drop the rods, that means they'll have to revert to a crossplane crank, because the flat plane crack can't swing that much mass and survive. That also means less RPM, and more displacement, just to hit the LT's baseline. So it will definitely need forced induction for anything more. I'm more curious about the Z06. Traditionally, Z06 was basically just a road-legal lightening package... where they took the light body variant, ditched any unnecessary fluff, and gave it the best performing powerplant with a hotter cam. I doubt there's any headroom for a cam upgrade to the LT... and short of ditching the infotainment center and floormats... I don't think there's much they can do to make it lighter, and still pass safety requirements. So is this really a Z06 at all... or another fake play on an old nameplate?

[@randr10]

I say this as someone who isn't a GM fanboy. This car is amazing in every way, including the styling. I wouldn't feel short changed owning one of these versus any other super car out there. I do like the Ferrari styling the most out of any of the mid-engine cars, but they're notoriously unreliable. With this you get the performance, you get the cheaper price and you get the GM reliability and parts support. I say this understanding that an engine replacement would be catastrophically expensive, but then again it wouldn't be such a special car otherwise. Similar equation with the GT350 from Ford. That VooDoo engine and the sound it makes, makes it worth every penny they charged for that car and then some.

[@corgi93291]

I think both Ford and GM can do some amazing things when they really want to. Glad to see some American exotics hitting the market!

[@jkent9915]

Twice as much. Well almost. A Z06 is $110k and a C8 is only $65k, 70% more.

[@kronk9418]

It looks extremely cheap.

[@matthewfredrickmfkrz1934]

@@kronk9418 lol it's literally plastic glued together

[@jeffputman8242]

Mid engine GT 40 would be my first choice

[@andyharman3022]

I was a project engineer at GM when they started developing the LT6 (wasn't on the project itself, was working on a truck engine). It was great seeing the block and heads working through the prototype machine shop. And yes, in the competitive analysis lab, there was a Ferrari 458 engine torn down. But this is nothing to get excited about. Every engine manufacturer buys their competitors engines to study. And yet I doubt that Ferrari has felt the need to buy one of GM's pushrod truck engines. After all, they're not in that market.

[@jeffscott3160]

You mean Ferrari is not in the reliability market!🤣

[@frufru0071]

Perhaps Lamborghini could use that GM pushrod truck engine to make a faster, more furious…tractor? Does Lamborghini even make tractors anymore? Probably not after the Miura…SVJ!

[@1gbayfisher]

@@jeffscott3160 right? 🤣🤣🤣

[@kronk9418]

@@jeffscott3160 Neither is GM, GM shit breaks constantly. It’s not a Toyota or Honda.

[@jeffscott3160]

@@kronk9418 Don't think any of your beloved ricers are part of the supercar conversation but thanks for playing cupcake!

[@jfjaksgf]

I got the word yesterday that my dealer just received a Z06 allocation and my C8 Z06 order will be rolling through the Bowling Green factory in late December! I was starting to get pretty depressed having sold my C7 Z06 eight months ago and didn't think the new Z06 would become a reality for years. Amazing turn of events, super stoked. Thank you for this video. Obviously I've tried to absorb everything on the C8 Z and its technology. I have learned more about this incredible engine through this video than anything else I have watched. Great content, production and presentation. I am now a subscriber and look forward to following your channel! Congrats!

[@francislutz8027]

Cool story, bro. Pics or lies.

[@Yaboidavey]

Ferrari is using GM electric steering and magnetic suspension. The z06 is making more power than any other naturally aspirated v8. So even if they stole it, they apparently did it better than anyone else anyways. Can't wait to buy mine.

[@machdaddy6451]

The ZO6 would really be a bargin, if the dealors weren't scalping them!

[@patrickr2686]

Chevy should do what tesla is doing and terminate the dealerships and sell directly to the people

[@Guesswho2024.]

Supply and demand! Welcome to America

[@juancarlosnegron2358]

@@patrickr2686 my thoughts exactly.

[@highpeaks6542]

MSRP dealers are many. Just needed to get in line 2-3years ago to get it soon. My deposit was put in early 2020. No extra fees and allocation coming any day…

[@machdaddy6451]

​@@highpeaks6542 You should check out RacerX story and also C. W. Lemoine.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

Uh nope. The first flat plane crank engine was Cadillacs design, which happens to be a GM brand. GM has so many patents on engine design its hard to remember where all of this started from in the first place.

[@j7b890]

nonsense...is like saying that using a turbo today means copying from who invented the turbo before 1900. Do you think there is much in common between early Cadillac flat planes and a 458 engine? There is definitely way more which GM learnt from opening up a 458 engine bought in Poland than the resemblance between a modern flat plane engine and GM's early designs. I dont think you want to start talking about patents from Otto, Benz and Daimer right? If today a z06 is using ESC do you say it copied Mercedes Benz from the 80s?

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

@@j7b890 GMs entire lineup is based on BENCHMARKING since restructuring. All Camaros and Cadillacs are based on BMWs design for its 3 series, but GM takes it further than anyone could have imagined. The actual chassis of a C8 is based on a 458, BUT ITS TEN TIMES BETTER. GM knows the consumer game very well.

[@markw9512]

@@j7b890 Ferrari stole GM’s magnetic shocks from them after licensing it from them for years. And this engine has a lot of innovations the 458 didn’t, including the lack of hugely expensive maintenance to keep it up and running.

[@j7b890]

@@markw9512 Ferrari is paying for that technology , as well as paying for multimatic ones on higher models. Guess your idea of stealing is a confused one. 458 engines are quite reliable. plenty of people race them. By the way, do you also say that all of Corvettes steal brakes from Brembo (which Ferrari uses since the 70's) ? Just to understand your thinking..

[@markw9512]

@@j7b890 Ferrari stole the magnetic shocks from GM, that’s a fact. Ferrari license to technology from GM for multiple years before finally, magically, inventing their own variation on the design. So you want to talk about benchmarking? They paid a lot of money for that benchmark. And How much does it cost to maintain a Ferrari 458? It needs to be have expensive maintenance performed ($thousands), the Z06 motor will not need to be opened up before 100,000 miles.

[@Shy_Knee_Side_Up]

The C8 Z06 design brief dates all the way back to 2015 as the original concept. They did use the 458 and 911 GT2/3 as benchmarks. Also, the exhaust tech alone and the Z07 package spec moreover is pretty wild.

[@thatboringblenderguy]

The C8 actually rides on the same platform as three of its predecessors (C5, C6, and C7), just the engine layout changed. It's not an all-new design, nor is the Z06's 5.5L engine a clean-sheet like the video says. It's a short-stroked LT1 which in turn is an evolution of the LS3, which is an evolution of the LS2 and of the LS1

[@APFSDS-DU]

@@thatboringblenderguy what? It’s a complete ground up build. It does NOT share the same architecture with any of the previous cars at all. Also, the LT6 does not share any parts with any previous GM engine. No idea where you got that. Maybe you’re thinking of the LT2

[@masonkemp2593]

@@APFSDS-DU Cadillac made a mid engine concept car don't forget about that

[@thatboringblenderguy]

@@APFSDS-DU The LT6 is a slightly bored up, heavily stroked down LT2 to allow for a flat plane crank. You can convert a pushrod into a cammer (though not the other way around). Lotus helped GM with that back in the 80s. Even Ford did that. Only problem is it costs a lot of development $$$

[@thatboringblenderguy]

@@APFSDS-DU The Corvette C8 is called Y2XX while C7 and earlier, dating back to C4 were called Y1XX (C5 got a heavily revised chassis and it continued on with C6 and C7). Corvette as a sub-brand (it really is its own brand since it has an assembly plant exclusive to Corvette, and it's Corvette's only assembly plant) made the C8 more complex than a traditional, semi-muscle quasi-grand tourer. Mid-engine and dual-clutch. Many front-engine cars got converted to rear-engine, like the Renault V6 Clio, but that's for another topic... (C8 is mid, but that's not far off). To be fair, C4 to C7 models are all front-MID

[@Darth_Arashi]

I’m still waiting on a C8 stingray. I can’t wait it’s now my ultimate favorite car of all time everytime I see one I just get starstruck. It looks like an exotic and performs like one as well. The Z06 is my next dream car but a C8 in general is my dream car. I think I will literally shed a tear when mine finally shows up.

[@jimsteinway695]

I just saw prices are falling big time and inventory is really going up. Please use that to get a good price

[@user-zx1ir7jt4c]

I saw a motor carrier FULL of c8s pull into my local dealership earlier this week. They all had the wraps on them unfortunately...

[@jimsteinway695]

@@user-zx1ir7jt4c that just means those who want one can get one without having to pay over. They should be able to negotiate like any other car. I saw a corvette world ad where they were cutting prices on all their C8s. People don’t realize the C8 opportunity that’s available now. The Z06s are showing up people aren’t going to pay over anymore

[@vincentenk4449]

@@user-zx1ir7jt4c I'm an intermodal truck driver, see them all the time going down the highway coming from Bowling Green.

[@L3GHO5T]

It took me 8 months after ordering to arrival then sold it 6 months later.

[@machdaddy6451]

IMO the LT6 is the most amazing part of the C8 ZO6.

[@nezabytes]

I think the mid engine layout is.

[@Steven-re3id]

@@nezabytes awesome they did but the rig is not impressive at all it has too much understeer and the c8 stingray is slower than a 2010 gtr with less power more weight and worse tires

[@tharunprasathvs4498]

Corvette being supercar slayer for years 💥💥

[@RW-zh7kl]

Ahh.. I really think that honor goes to the Dodge Viper

[@davecech4741]

Terrific job explaining the pros and cons of each engine configuration. It all makes sense now...

[@lqr824]

no, most of what he said was BS, see my other comments

[@SGTJDerek]

Look up SBC Crossplane on YT. Somebody built one back in the '50's or '60's. The man that owns it now bought off of eBay 20 some years ago bur never put it together. He finally did and made a video of it on a Dyno. It's pretty dang wild. For what it is and the weight of the parts available at the time, it puts down respectable power.

[@peterramsay1767]

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[@ibrahimfaizan6047]

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[@hoshifuyo4494]

Sounds like plan, how do you put money to work?

[@ibrahimfaizan6047]

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[@hoshifuyo4494]

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[@eddiejohn8506]

Am hoping on you can explain more on how you make extra income from investments

[@KangoV]

That engine is real nice :) My favourite engine is the Cosworth RA 6.5ltr V12 Engine. 1,000bhp/NA and spins to 11,100 rpm. It also meets the EU's very strict latest emissions standards. Sounds like an F1 car too!

[@williamconrad1087]

I own a c7 with a 7sp manual. I’ll think about a c8 zo6 after my hip and knee wears out but not before.

[@mar56cos]

First video I’ve seen from ideal media and it was great. Everything from the graphics to the breakdown was outstanding! Just subscribed

[@integr8691]

Ill start by saying I am NOT a GM fanatic, but I do appreciate the machine... this was a great video. Thank you for your production. Keep up the awesome work!

[@mp-qz3pf]

I always felt like these look cheap in person

[@mak23997]

That's my biggest issue as well. I have a 997 911 turbo and have been itching to get into a Z06 but every time I see it in person (the base) it just looks cheap and bolted on. The wing looks terrible too so I would consider a delete. Maybe I have to wait and see the ZO6 in person.

[@iTrinityPlays]

If that's what cheap looks like, sign me up for Z07 pack Z06 please!

[@_baller]

Meanwhile you're 16

[@mp-qz3pf]

Try 38 and have the means to buy one, got the wife’s approval after a year of nagging and when I saw in person just was so let down. no test drives so I can’t comment on that but looks ugly it doesn’t flow well .

[@tremendous9137]

That's nuts just thinking of the weight of the engines. A stock sbc is 575. BBC is 685 stock. That's crazy

[@kiefershanks4172]

This car must be crazy fun to drive. Very cool engine.

[@colinw7205]

Yes please do a "Pushrod VS DOHC" aka "OHV VS OHC" video. But it is still amazing that Mary Barra(GM CEO) and the "suits" still greenlighted and push the C8 and Gemini projects even when going through bankruptcy and government directed total reorganization. While in the '90s the Corvette engineers had to design and develop the C5 in secret and on their own time.

[@CAG1399]

GM was well out of bankruptcy by 2014 and I am excited for what they think of next. One key lesson GM learned is that nobody wants the average car designed for an average person. Look for more interesting and unique cars from GM in the future for sure!

[@arbiter1]

They said with c7 they were at the limits of what they could do with a front engine car.

[@HandMadeWrath]

@12:40 after the part where he explained the oiling system i was like “they built this summbich for lemans”

[@0xymfzzty0]

Can we talk about how good this video is? The animations with elegant explanations are just on point!

[@DS2CV]

@@sjb3460 I learned what a crankshaft is from the movie Tenet. It's a device that can make the world go backward through time. I'm assuming camshafts have something to do with time travel.

[@lqr824]

half of what the guy says are lies. It's like he doesn't even know anything about cars and is just some yoyo making vids.

[@Tehzii]

@@lqr824 could have been straight out of Fast and Furious 😂🤣😂

[@Chithappens1995]

@@lqr824 Yeah im still stuck on the click bate title of the video.

[@HalferLandPerformance]

We (HalferLand Performance) have a custom dual 68mm throttle body intake manifold setup and NA it saw positive maps pressure, AKA very light boost. So we saw .1-.2 psi at wide open throttle. Granted it not much but what allowed us to pull 340 crank HP from just a naturally aspirated 3.2 J32a3 engine and which our shop/R&D (my daily) is making 550/467 to the wheels at just 8psi of boost on our J35A7 swap. We have a small channel on here and also Instagram if interested 🤙

[@Engineerboy100]

Wow great coverage and a master class of learning! Thanks for posting!

[@KoolHandJuke]

You produced a very impressive video. Props to you! 🤜🔥🤛 I liked and subscribed, bruh. Keep the videos coming. I'm looking forward to them eagerly! 💥

[@israelmartin8413]

So we are just going to forget the C6 Corvette Le Man's win.

[@SuperSilvi1990]

And the C5, C7, C8, and the cadillac prototypes.

[@borla4491]

Say it again!

[@The_Hulkster]

I'm doing an LT6 swap to my beloved 2012 Camaro SS soon in honor of my grandpa.

[@0xymfzzty0]

I’m really tempted to put one in my c3 but I doubt it’ll fit

[@The_Hulkster]

@@0xymfzzty0 While i enjoy some builds that rival the space shuttle in complexity, I would rather just go old school big block with a classic C3. Old school builds just seem to have more spirit and heart for me....

[@0xymfzzty0]

@@The_Hulkster Yeah that’s the main reason I stayed with my rebuilt (now 372) 350sbc, but pushing a measly ~400 hp is rookie territory 😂. I don’t really like the big blocks and force induction on an factory engines is illegal in my country, I’ll probably give in to my friends and stroke it

[@squidusn71]

@@0xymfzzty0 wait a little longer, someone will eventually shoehorn that thing on a C3.

[@0xymfzzty0]

@@squidusn71 it will find its way into a miata eventually 😂

[@kamargee9680]

I don't do American cars, but this to me is the ultimate American sports car. The attention to detail is astounding for an American auto maker. If GM had this standard years ago, it would still be no. 1

[@EricMiltsch]

What an amazing video, very well done. This car will be such a smash hit. Can’t wait for it!

[@upsidedowndog1256]

I have never been a fan of GM or Corvettes but I think they finally got something special going on. Just in time, I am 52 now and would have to buy the matching leather jacket and gold jewelery that Corvette owners alway seem to have. I will have to buy one while I can still get in and out of the car!

[@thetechlibrarian]

Don’t forget the new balance shoes 😁 all jokes aside yes they actually have something special there.

[@svgitana2499]

Agree with you and I’m also 52 and a Porsche owner! Seems like a great car!!

[@bayaholic]

Thanks for the speedy education. Very insightful. Now, if we can only convince GM to make a manual to row your own gears. Otherwise, C7 and below will have my heart. C8 will get my blessings. The manual transmission is my soul.

[@seemlesslies]

Manual transmissions are dead in super cars. The only reason they exist is for the memes. Machines can do it better, faster, and more precise than a human can. They also have multiple engagement gears that have almost zero time between shifts. As someone who enjoys a manual transmission car and DDs a GD WRX. These cars are just on an entirely different level. F1 don't really usual manual transmission cars anymore either not really. Most race cars use inline shifters which isn't really all that manual. Sure you're controlling the time when gears engage, but they are doing almost zero clutch work.

[@Duke_of_Prunes]

@@seemlesslies The median age of Corvette buyers is 61 YEARS. As an older buyer, myself, my hips and knees are in no shape. I drove nothing but manual cars for over 40 years. But now my 6-speed Mazda 6 rarely leaves the driveway, and it's clutch is feather light compared to those in performance cars. Besides, neither my daughter nor her friends can even drive a manual -- half of them don't drive, period!

[@kkjjffss]

This is top notch production quality, thank you so much for this

[@iamgriff]

It’s always funny to see test mules on here. I’ve seen most of the ones portrayed here in person. The black Holden Test Mule was at Speedway gas station in Milford one morning at 4:45am. I was looking it over not knowing what it was

[@xx_ironman77_xx1]

Push rod engines can rev high proof nascar there small block based V8s can rev to 10,000 rpm , it comes down to what kind of camshaft lifters and rocker arms like an flattop camshaft can rev to 7,000 rpm but struggles on the other hand hydraulic roller camshafts can rev higher with ease it also comes down to other stuff like the weight of the valve train ,rotating assembly and flywheel. There’s some dohc engines that can’t rev higher then 6,400 rpm and can’t go higher then 6,900 and 7,000 and they have dohc 👀

[@kc510]

They can rev high but you lose power down low. What’s the highest revving production pushrod? The DOHC with cam phasers on each and variable lift on the cams can make an engine that makes power at a much wider rev range. I’d totally rock an LS7 or LS3 so I’m no hater.

[@jeffwill4923]

@@kc510 You may argue production but Hennessy F5 6.6L TT is said to rev to around 8500 in vmax mode. As far as n/a can't really think of a any production model.

[@austinhowze6280]

Yeah but no at that point the pushrod is useless for every day use and the high spring pressure would kill economy ohc is just better all the way

[@xxxYYZxxx]

@@austinhowze6280 OHC makes the engine taller. That's why 5.5L is the biggest DOHC anyone's seen in a sports car, but there's a 10.4L big block with more HP than the DOHC that I believe could fit in the Corvette.

[@austinhowze6280]

@@xxxYYZxxx theres 2000hp dohc honda based engines no need for displacement if the heads don't flow the air

[@rotoregonian6857]

First off after many years of playing with different types of motor sports I can say I love cars trucks and bikes as a whole but I will say it's nice to see automotive engines finally catching up to 1980's motorcycle engine technology 😜

[@nordic5490]

GM is finally catching up with the rest of the world. Nearly all 2022 cars are 4v dohc vvt, and now in 2022, most are also turbo.

[@scottmcintyre7350]

Thanks for all the technical discussion of push rods, cams, and this, that and the other. I only wish I could have understood a word of it.

[@luvr381]

That LT5 was incredible.

[@nighthawk0077]

Great info and presentation, not sure about the cluckbait title as you didnt actually go into any detail about what exactly was stolen.

[@CrackedCandy]

Agreed

[@miguelbarada5389]

He probably talking about the Flat plane crank because that’s what Ferrari uses in the OEM engines this isn’t anything new a woman did swapped a set of flat plane cranks and twin turbocharged her LT1 when she first bought her new Corvette and converted it to a drag car breaking records when that car first came out, she was the first to create that mod on the new corvette but not the first to bring a heavy modified LT1, there’s a video on 1320 where a guy built a twin turbocharged LT1 doing 7’s as a daily with no plane crank

[@meanman6992]

And I thought the Ford coyote engine was impressive getting 103% VE, 110% VE from an NA production engine is insane.

[@pilsplease7561]

To be honest dodges engines are the best in my opinion when it comes to raw power out of a factory engine.

[@treypol]

Bravo! Great explanation, subscribing.

[@mpeugeot]

This is a modern F-355 in almost every way with regard to the design language... The 5 valve flat plane v8 of the F-355 is clearly part of the inspiration.

[@groomlake51]

Great Content💯Volumetric efficiency is life or death in the racing world and the most important metric we have when pushing performance boundary’s. It’s rarely used in the automotive enthusiast world. Thank you for understanding before informing! It’s a breath of fresh air

[@jamiebowles4588]

Apostrophe abuse. Is 'boundaries' so hard to type? (My Android suggested it, by the time I had typed 'bou... ') Apostrophes are for contractions or possessive form. (I know your teachers never stressed or enforced this.)

[@hb-ol9oc]

@@jamiebowles4588 Who cares man.

[@jamiebowles4588]

@@hb-ol9oc Anybody who cares about clarity in written communication. I admit that there are fewer & fewer of us, as time goes on. Welcome to Babel 2.0, dude. Punctuation matters.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy]

The stingray is priced right but there's something about it I don't quite like. The wheels don't look quite as aggressive and some of the proportions don't look right to me. They nailed it with the zo6 but they raised up the price where I can't get one. If you guys can afford this I'd say get it as the next gen will almost assuredly be electric

[@renehollan7695]

I own a C7 Z06. 650hp/650ft-lb. The car calls for restraint on the street. I can't imagine a C8 Z06.

[@LegacyAftermath]

Hard to rev past 6500 rpm - laughs in LS7 when testing to 8k

[@oneman7638]

I now want an LT6 😂

[@Thumper68]

Yeah 8k rpm 700hp sbc running 100 laps straight wide open dirt racing for 40 years now seems like they do ok at high rpm and n/a hp😂

[@uliwehner]

100 laps at a dirt track comes to some 50 miles or so, not exactly a testament to longevity.

[@Thumper68]

@@uliwehner last one my old man built in 90’s for a friend of his is still running…

[@uliwehner]

@@Thumper68 hat's off to your old man. did a little bit of math. if the car ran 50 miles every saturday for 30 years, that would make for 75,000 miles. Impressive but still less than what is expected of the average honda civic over the same period.

[@Thumper68]

@@uliwehner the average civic not running wide open in awful conditions though lol. And not making near the power as well what 500 or so less hp…

[@uliwehner]

@@Thumper68 my point is really that a pushrod SBC does not run at 8 grand like a say Porsche 911, and also last. i am an old aircooled VW guy, so pushrod engines are very dear to my heart, but they don't last if rev'd to 8 grand either.

[@tahaakhtar776]

The V8 sound in this c8 doesn't match like the Ls engines example c5 c6 c7 those v8 sounds amazing 🔥🤤

[@kevinboyd7903]

I like how he used a 426 hemi schematic to explain pushrod engines.

[@HTownDom]

The Z06 is unreal bro ! Based on the leaks of what the C8 platform would look like, the Z06 exceeded the rumored number of “at least 625 horsepower flat plane crank v8.” It ended up being 670hp. The ZR1 was rumored to have 850 horsepower twin turbo 5.5 liter v8. Which just the thought of is mind boggling because the Z06 is such a beast already.

[@billyhndrsn4542]

I am scared for the engine supports. Videos I have seen of the engine flexing with gear shifting gives me pause, then the more powerful Z06, more engine flexing. By the time we get to a twin turbo 5.5 liter possibly 800+ HP the lightweight frame the supports are attached will be screaming for relief. Thats what full warranties are for, I guess.

[@shenton18]

As long as they get that power to the wheels..

[@Jmike12345]

It’s nice to see GM developing and producing great designs.

[@grizzlygrizzle]

I think all the rockets stamped on the engine allude also to the Rocket V-8s of the 1950 Oldsmobiles, which a thing in their day.

[@ashookchandra8191]

More like copying 😊👍❤️💯🔥🙏

[@1320horse]

@@ashookchandra8191 they have done that since the beginning of the company.

[@Naized]

@@ashookchandra8191 bro is mad and salty

[@tattooed1979]

Cool video! I actually build the z06 engine here in bowling green.

[@bjlo8220]

What a Great Channel.I love the DEEP instruction in the Vette Engine. Fantastic!! Spectacular!!!

[@dano727]

Yes ! I'm very interested in the OHC vs Pushrod discussion !

[@xxxYYZxxx]

A pushrod engine with the same deck height of the 5.5L LT6 V8 is basically a big block. To be fair, a big block of the same height would be a tad longer. Shortly after the LT6, Chevy released an aftermarket 10L (610? ci) big block that does 1100 HP on E85 or perhaps 750+ HP with a milder tune. Given the same deck height, the OVH engine offers greater displacement and max power at lower RPM, the OHC engine is smaller & revs higher.

[@henryknox4511]

That intake @ 10:42 design looks astoundingly like a late 80's Lingenfelter superram tpi unit but modernized. So much so that ifyou removed the butterflies in the plenum it would be (just) about visually exact. The 80's plenum would have a 4th port.

[@Tehzii]

Agreed and many other intakes used similar designs I think they old hilborn could be included and the butterflys date back to the late 80s and early 90s too. In fact one of them was the 1989 Ford SHO had a 220 horse 3 liter six with 12 "tuned" intake runners. Six longer narrow set of primaries for low end torque and at about 4k rpm the butterflies opened up a second set of short fat tubes for high rpm volume. You could literally bury the 8k tach but the cable shifter was atrocious. Just saying there new tech has been around for awhile but pump it up for the buyers the drivers know what's what. Meh

[@Tehzii]

1990 ZR1 LT5 DOHC motor, tuned runner length and 4 valves per cylinder.

[@henryknox4511]

@@Tehzii I remember when that car came out, it was a big load of holy cow for a 20 year old kid.

[@LearningFast]

It is important to understand that this is not the engine for tuning. It is essentially maxed out straight from the factory. If you change the intake it is likely that you will actually decrease that volumetric efficiency instead of increasing it.

[@victorcordova1508]

The engine still has to abide by epa mandates. Anybody tuning that can turn a blind eye to that. They might squeeze a couple more horses out.

[@marcbailey4437]

@@victorcordova1508 Exactly. Even high flow cats and headers will probably net 15-20hp. It did on my cayman.

[@brianjones6465]

True. BMW got to that point with the straight 6 in the M3's. Had to force induction to get anything more out of them.

[@woopyass]

Its far from maxed out. But I'm just some hillbilly from Michigan.

[@peterdarr383]

Two bottles of NOSS, a stand alone computer for tuning, some head porting and Titanium valves for more RPM's.

[@SavageBunny1]

It's a budget Ferrari, even if I was a billionaire I would still buy a Vette.

[@marklipson]

Yes, I'd like to see a video on overhead cams vs pushrods, please.

[@tommymorgan9624]

Great video dude! Man I like this car and I’m lovin the engine. I have an 80 model vette and am lovin the idea of putting that engine in it!

[@taiminsen8069]

not steal but reverse engineering and that's normal It's shame that Z06 can't hit magic 9000 rpm just like Ferrari 458 BUT I doubt normal people can know the sound differences between 8500 rpm and 9000 rpm, besides Z06 C8 is 1000cc larger and more powerful than 458 so it's still a win

[@thatboringblenderguy]

because the LT6 is a converted LT2, which in turn is an LT1 and an LS3

[@emanuelkullolli2697]

So taking ferrari knowledge and give it a little spice i cant wait to see what beast that Corvette would be

[@Slayer66037]

The 1st thing I thought when I saw the rocketship stamped onto the engine was it was a shout out to the olds 350 rocket engines lol

[@poortouringhotwiregarage5617]

The 1969 DZ302 small block Chevy could rev to 8,000 rpm with no problem after the full length headers were installed. It's not that hard to make push rod engines to rev, just a combination of the right parts and a big bore / short stroke

[@frankscott8555]

I see a lot of Ford old technology in this guys discretion. Overhead cam, intake manifold vavle, cam phasers. I am impressed with the titanium rods. 670hp natural aspiration is impressive for sure.

[@ebkbk9902]

weird because buick was the first ever brand to use a ohc engine in a automobile.... And Cadillac was the first ever company to use a v8 in a automobile... Nothing close to ford is on this car. The lt5 in the 90s zr1 was also dohc and co developed by lotus and mercury again nothing like fords mod motors.

[@Richard-qz8up]

There's not any "old Ford technology" in the LT6...thank God! The Modular/Coyote/Voodoo engine designs are terrible from a performance standpoint, they have to use superchargers to get any HP. The basic design flaw is they kept the bore spacing of the OHV small block Ford engine. Once they made that decision in the '80s, all future engines were handicapped for performance applications. The Voodoo engine is horrible because the stroke is too long, a dimension driven by the decision to use the narrow bore centers of the old small block Ford OHV engine. They should have made the bore as large as possible within the bore center constraints and let the displacement be determined by the use of a stroke no longer than 3.1".

[@TheLastCrankers]

I have a weird feeling that it destroys the competition, because there simply is no modern competition. The age of such engines was late 2000s to early 2010s, nowadays, there's just no way these would even get homologated (and sold) in anywhere else than northern us, which is a really small market all things considered and thus there are no profits to be made if any competition starts arising.

[@Heywood_yablowme]

Australia my friend. they have a car scene greater than us based and it seems like the fucks given over there is minimal as far as cars go.

[@TheLastCrankers]

@@Heywood_yablowme I know the car culture there is big, but not much more than that Im afraid. TIL

[@SuperSilvi1990]

What??? Lamborghini, Bugatti, Ferrari, and Mercedes would like to have a word with you.

[@markw9512]

@@SuperSilvi1990 They’re all turbocharged these days. This is naturally aspirated, different ballgame.

[@DigitalSubset]

@@SuperSilvi1990 now ask yourself why can this car be had for 90-130k and still mentioned with this level of performance

[@robkolk3360]

Excellent work fat man from Kentucky

[@jonthecomposer]

90 degree cranks do not fire at quicker intervals. There's no torque difference because of crank degree. The difference is which bank fires every 90 degrees. In a 90 degree crank, the firing order resembles this side-to-side LRLLRLRR -- each interval happening at 90 degrees. In a 180 degree cranks, the firing order side-to-side is like this: LRLRLRLR -- each interval still firing every 90 degrees because each 90 degrees your flat plane rotates, it puts two pistons at TDC in the other cylinder bank (because that bank is at 90 degrees from the other). The main difference in torque lies with the fact that, without the inherent imbalance of the flat plane crank, most 90 degree cranks have a longer stroke. Longer stroke means the cranking force produced by the cylinder pressure is further away from the crank's center, thus using that leverage to increase torque at the crank.

[@carldaugherty8981]

All the while I'm looking for a '60s Mopar with a Slant Six and Three-on-the-Tree!

[@justmy2cents_]

Can't deny Chevy definitely dropped an anvil (cut to scene of anvil dropping in coyote vs roadrunner scene) with this one seriously! Loving the C8 Stingray in so many ways! Didn't think GM actually had it in them after seeing the Cien concept never seeing the light of day! That concept could've easily rivaled the Bugatti Eb110 with it's 7.5 litre V-12 sitting under the hood! Great job GM now bring us a new Camaro with top notch performance,design & yea a voracious & venerable rumbling V8 for ole' time sake,a kinda last hoorah for the demise of the push rod! C'mon what ya gotta lose??

[@annathemaanderson4448]

The love and admiration of enviroweinies everywhere!

[@rayrae1651]

And all it’s going to take is for one of these pumps to go down and there goes this beautiful art piece

[@uzyoc]

OMG .. excellent interesting but nicely technical video on the new Z06 .. 5 stars!! .. thank you sir!!! 🙏👍

[@paulreese3071]

I’m not a huge car guy, but wasn’t this the same game plan that Ford used with the Shelby GT350?

[@Simon__L]

Looking at 10year development on an engine and getting DOHC as bonus while Konnigsegg pulls out a free valve engine in 3 ... With 10% of the team...

[@tinolino58]

They didn’t do anything for ten years… it just sounds cool.

[@rickkephartactual7706]

This Corvette is what dreams are made of!

[@jray961]

Super well done video

[@apexak]

Supercharger on the stock C8 and Viola!

[@chicatee861]

but... will they be reliable? thats the real question

[@StreetCars101TV]

The question that I ask

[@1crazypj]

Intake and cylinder head arrangement reminds me of a 1985 Yamaha V-Max (except multiplied and bigger)

[@christophergeorge8800]

YOU ARE AWESOME. THANKS FOR THIS TECH BUTT SIMPLISTIC PRESNTATION

[@captnjim44smith74]

Ford’s Voodoo engine was the first American flat plane crank performance engine, so who is Chevy following, Ferrari or Ford?

[@jeffwill4923]

Did Ford go racing with it?? Can't say performance and not put it to the test like GM did here.

[@norman1907]

What makes the z06 different from the base model has always been comfort. In your 40s you might appreciate the performance, but by your mid 50s you won't feel like working as hard for it.

[@CCH7540]

Z06 options have always been about performance though. I'm in my mid 50s, ride Ducati superbikes and all my cars *(including my Corvette) are manual trans and pretty much as stripped down and light as I could order/build them. Hell, I don't even own a single pair of white new balances .😆

[@norman1907]

@CCH7540 I have a c5 z06, that is cammed and has a super heavy clutch. All class has been removed for performance. I went too far, it's like having a Ducati in my parking spot. I usually drive my miata. My body isn't what it used to be. If I had a base model automatic I'd probably have sold the miata by now.

[@CCH7540]

@@norman1907 I can relate :) Broken back, neck surgeries, ribs, feet/toes, fingers, both collar bones, a sternum, right arm and left leg over the years. My C7 Grand sport M7 is probably the most civilized ride other than my wife's Grand Cherokee, but then I've got a old Mustang with a stroker motor, 6 point bar, fixed race buckets and a clutch that'd wear out a bodybuilder in traffic. Sometimes we just go too far :D

[@norman1907]

@@CCH7540 my surgery is in 8 days. Opening up the lumbar, under for 6 hours. I hope I come out of it still shooting flames from my tailpipe like you.

[@CCH7540]

@@norman1907 I sincerely hope you do too sir. Best of luck! Only advice I have is to actually pay attention to and abide by their instructions on how to properly recover :) I've been known to not always be as patient as instructed and it usually comes back to bite me. I'm getting smarter as I age, but it's a crap shoot as to whether the increase in my wisdom will ever surpass my ability to injure myself 😆

[@gtgodbear6320]

What if you put big block push rods in a LS/LT. I bet you can get a lot more higher RPMs if you beafed them up to BBC pushrods.

[@miguelcortes7627]

I can only imagine this motor twin turbo 😅 thing gonna be a monster.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

I get the dig at the S65 in the M3 but without that engine (from 17 years ago) and others, this wouldn't exist. Many features in this engine have been implemented for decades on other cars.

[@tylerwhite628]

I came across the Areovette not to long ago. The mid engine concept from the 80s. The spec for it was a 6.2 liter 4 ROTOR with 5k rpm. Just imagine how things would have been for the mid C8 if that happened.

[@jamesredman1263]

5k is low. Wankels were capable of 20k RPM back then. The Mercedes C 111 was a sleek 4 rotor Wankel 2.4 Liter, 345 hp, 186 mph+ car. Only a handful of prototypes were made; the 70s fuel crisis hit. Wankels had great volumetric efficiency, fuel mileage not so much then. And relatively short wiper seal life.

[@tylerwhite628]

@@jamesredman1263 it just reminded me of that weird mid engine prototype. It just blows my mind that the made a 6 liter rotory. Those Doritos had to have been HUGE.

[@redLeader1686]

Hey, good video. I have a question. I've been reading about the breakin period for the new C8. They don't want you to engage cruise control. that's not much direction. would slowly increasing speed from 50 to 70 mph do the trick? I've heard it's because the rings need to be sealed. true? what's the best way to break in the c8 engine?

[@mcalvert1000]

Do short runs. Let it warm up good and keep the rpms on the move. Be gentle until the oil is hot. The idea is to build cylinder pressure that will seat the piston rings. Hills are great. Don't be afraid to work it out and run it through the gears. Don't be too gentle when it's warmed up and avoid sitting in traffic. Avoid continuous engine speed and idling. Work it progressively harder until youre at 600mi, then give it a full send to the redline in as many gears as you can. Change the oil after this run then you're good. I've done this with many new vehicles and none have burned oil or had any problems.

[@InsaneBimmer]

doesn't matter. The trans will fail before that.

[@InuranusBrokoff]

They want you to operate the motor at varying loads and rpm, cc does not do this.

[@cassiespencer6134]

The idea is to avoid remaining at a given RPM for a prolonged period of time. Instead it's best to vary RPM in order to give the rings and cylinder walls, along with the rod bearings, time to break-in and mate with one another so to speak.

[@brettwalsh7781]

Just so you know the 2006 Chevy Silverado 1500 does come with a LS33. The aluminum block. I know because I own one. It was a special order option when I custom ordered my truck. Its the type B.

[@dirtmcgirt0420]

I laughed when he said that in the video, I've seen a lot of trucks with a "real" LS in em.

[@dougg1075]

I don’t know wha it’s called , I just know the sound it makes when it takes.a man’s pride.

[@MustangGuru]

Seams like GM learned. Something from FORD. LOL

[@mikelliteras397]

This engine is impressive but for that money, it should be. While we always say it’s half the price of an exotic car, a lot of that is because they can get that money. $120k is a boatload of money for a Corvette, especially when few people can tell, or know, the difference between a $60k Corvette and this one. That’s always been an issue with the true badass Corvettes. Doesn’t matter with a Ferrari or Lamborghini. The Shelby Gt350 engine is more impressive, one for being first and two for putting a badass 1 off engine in a low production $55k car. I like that they did a flat plane crank tho. Hi revs just sound cool. This one doesn’t sound anything like the Shelby, hell, it doesn’t sound much like an Italian car either. Im glad it has its own sound.

[@leethompson6070]

A guy I work with was issued apparently #59 off of the line sold as the 2021 year model so I'm trying to understand more about this new monster that's been roving our break room & what all this stuff is he's talking about. Oh yeah, his he referrers to as "come get me red". And boy, is it red. He hates that he can't spin the tires though, only chirp them. I'm sure that if he finds an all-wheel-drive over-ride, that'll be the 1st things that he does. Thanx for pointing out that it breaths free air, I figured all cars of this status were charged in some shape.

[@jayh7310]

Pushrod V8s are very capable of high rpm if it's built right.

[@jamessutherland5107]

The volumetric efficiency alone is bordering on magic.

[@freedomfirst5420]

Cadillac made the first flate plane crankshaft V8 in 1923.

[@Shoot_and_Scoot]

Weren’t they the ones who started the magnetic ride control as well?

[@bretthansen8166]

I had a C5 Z06 and a C6 Z06 in the past, phenomenal cars and loads of fun for the $ 👍🏻 The C8 Z06 is a a great performer but unfortunately out of my price range today. Zora always wanted a mid engined corvette, and they definitely made a great platform 👍🏻