Ideas on the Verge - Live Interview with Dmitry Orlov, Author of The Five Stages of Collapse

I've been reading a book called The 5 Stages of Collapse, by Dmitry Orlov. Over the last decade I have read several books in this niche and this is one of the most dense but entertaining reads on the subject. While the topic is tough to think about for most people, it is a subject that is worth investing a little bit of time into, in my opinion, because no civilization has ever lasted forever. While I do not believe that collapse can be predicted or forecast, reading a book like this can help you to understand the fragility that is baked into our western world and then translate that into a probabilistic map that will allow you to properly insure yourself. By insure, I don't mean through a large insurance company, I mean approaches like I have detailed out in the Land As Insurance series.
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There is a problem with engaging this topic. It can lead to paralysis, obsessivness and inaction because it is scary. If you are prone to this then you may want to broach this subject carefully. As an engineer we are constantly assessing the risk of systems and then creating designed responses to those risks. This is just one more risk to think about and permaculture gives us an approach to manage this risk so that we can move on with our lives in a positive way.
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[@mfoley2378]

Interview starts at around 12:30

[@JoeHeine]

Jesus christ thank you. His incoherent rambling for the first few minutes was exhausting

[@davidotness6199]

Actually, 14 minutes in.

[@dickvolen4589]

Thank you.

[@dickvolen4589]

@@davidotness6199 Thank you too.

[@crypto-radio8186]

GREAT. I GET TO SEE DMITY ORLOV LIVE. my hero

[@davidhick4303]

Love the end quote. When the water is let out of the pool we will find out who was swimming naked...

[@Shirar2000]

I have an autographed copy of Dmitry's "The Five Stages of Collapse..." It's an outstanding read. When the book arrived in the mail, I was unable to put it down (unless practically forced). It is THAT informative and interesting. What Dmitry discusses in the book is super-useful-he offers ideas on what one might expect to observe and experience as the U.S. continues its accelerating downward spiral... Believe it or not, I didn't find the book depressing at all! Reading it actually gave me a boost-reducing some of the uncertainty I had about preparing my family-and building resilience. The book is definitely a gift... Anyway, love Dmitry Orlov's work! Thank you for having him on your show!! Always a treat to hear his thoughts.... Orlov is brain candy (for the "End Times!")

[@fbusoni2296]

" the U.S. continues its accelerating downward spiral... "... Tell us more please.

[@VergePermaculture]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jamesdewane1642]

@@fbusoni2296 still looking for details, or has it come onto view for you yet? This week it was derivatives gambling made legal again for one more looting.

[@davidhick4303]

@@fbusoni2296 hmmm, are you still needing this clarified?

[@fndngnvrlnd]

​@@davidhick4303that is another stupid shitty brainwashed American who is in denial 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rosehavenfarm2969]

And here we are in 2021, with the food, housing, energy, financial systems in disarray unto collapse. Add in unlawful mandates, rampant civil unrest, etc etc. Prescient.

[@tuckerbugeater]

It's all planned you stup!d !diot. He wants you to think this stuff is inevitable.

[@regscott7157]

Orlov is brilliant. Would love to hear him do more interviews. read 5 Stages years ago and loved it.

[@LiteraryLA]

Looking good, Dmitry! Thank you for this work. May your boat be always as seaworthy and well-stocked as your unique mind. 🎩♥️🌏

[@davidorourke4311]

Actually Dmitry has being living back in Russia and on land for recent years and no longer on a boat in South Carolina. Agree it's an interesting interview

[@irvingandralphandchester5220]

If I had to describe the Soviet and post-Soviet conditions in one word, it would be "unfinished". That is, no landscaping, streets and alleys and parking would be not paved or in decent condition, blocks of flats would be, well, ratty-looking, in need of tuckpointing, and so on. But the trams and trolleybuses ran, were clean and reliable, the metro was excellent. Once you got in your flat, it was a different world. You had what you needed, your small fridge was full and like a "gastronom" (sort of a delicatessen).

[@jackgoldman1]

My daughters day care for two kids is $2,000 per month in Rochester MN.

[@beckiwildeman600]

O wow, I do not live far from you.

[@valentin5403]

"Mom, what is a conspiracy theorist?" "Well. dear, someone like uncle Dmitry who can see future ahead of others ..... and someone like uncle Putin to implement it

[@duanesbuhler7696]

Awesome video, this information will help.

[@leonardobautista1619]

In a nutshell, the Russian experience is the opposite of the US experience.

[@robertadams4600]

Dmitry doesn't give a damn what you think about him or his beard. Maybe you all were looking for the Kardashians.

[@pipbernadotte6707]

Note to the editor: you can edit out sound checks

[@cyberspace667]

Wait… what was that part about allowing his wife to go on dates?

[@MDC2020]

FK me skip to the 13:00 mark when you want to watch the interview

[@DANVIIL]

The women's intro was revolting with all the bs about "carbon neutral" oligarch nonsense. I'm sure Dmitry had to hold his laughter.

[@unchiekun]

It’s happening now

[@atendriyadasa6746]

Interviewer should try making questions more concise.

[@crypto-radio8186]

Sara Reeves have I seen you on Dave Feldman show?

[@germeshkrimi7384]

Orlov=or Lov-e❣️+🧠

[@clararamirez7546]

Para conocerlo deseo la traduccion al Castellano, recomendado por Wilmer de Inty Noticias se los agradesco.

[@elijahoster-morris1408]

Panama not so much, but Orlav was reading tea leaves.

[@leeroyescu]

The initiative is laudable but please moderate so it's a bit richer. Not that many takeaways in this hour and twenty minutes.

[@VergePermaculture]

Leeroy, I would love any tips you have on how I could have made it richer?

[@leeroyescu]

@@VergePermaculture Off the top of my head I guess something like tackling common misunderstandings and tropes around the author's field; more examples or scenarios... "here people did this and that happened"; introducing more structure, announcing key concepts. More educational I guess. Not all of these at once, it would get too dense then, just trying to come up with some suggestions. On the topic of concepts check out github.com/akaleeroy/collapse-lingo Right now it's a terrible rough draft but if the word gets out interested contributors can help make it better!

[@teresabarrett8676]

Cool beard man

[@ghsaintroy]

St Roy. Zihautanejo

[@regscott7157]

what a bunch of sad jealous trolls here .

[@picoluanifyable]

from Belgium

[@Bamk54321]

"Go native"

[@VergePermaculture]

Ya, I found that good as well.

[@thebeerhunter7307]

Go native = Go Bush/ Go off Grid or if you really like m!m to the rest of the world

[@JanPolatschek]

Host talks too much and his comments are incomprehensible. Sounds to me that he has not prepared concise questions

[@irvingandralphandchester5220]

I tend to operate on a "Don't need to know" basis. No one needs to know anything.

[@ian4040]

That beard looks ridiculous, Dmitry.

[@S8250503]

That's all you took from this video? 😶

[@margaritadubrovina7063]

Dimitriy please shave your face 😮❤

[@cliffgaither]

​​@@S8250503:: That was the first thing we saw ... and several seconds.

[@cliffgaither]

​@@S8250503:: That is the first thing we saw ... for several seconds.

[@Zanzan8]

He has removed it....saw him with clean face😅

[@aegaeon117]

He is blissfully unaware of the climate situation if he thinks overpopulation is not a problem.

[@eileenkenny9202]

Read Empty Planet.

[@jackgoldman1]

Man made climate change is a hoax by globalists. The Sun causes climate change for billions of years.

[@Zanzan8]

Overpopulation???... maybe you can set an example...leave the planet...we will be fine without you my darling😂

[@makethefire9931]

His point about women being 'liberated' by having to work in employments was shockingly simplistic.He seems to think that the old system of having women in the home/caring for kids/elderly was preferable. In fact women always worked outside the home to help the economic stability of the household. Women will never be liberated until the men are liberated - from the idea that home/caring/income is a mutual enterprise. And let's face it, multi-generational living doesn't suit everyone. Abuse happens in these households too.

[@jmwSeattle]

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW “Blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it.” - JESUS CHRIST “Without Me you can do nothing.” - JESUS CHRIST

[@rareairal]

all good great ideas great book but the beard is like from our local travelling circus at the county fair

[@Zedzian23]

Dmitry Orlov: Author, Futurist, Linguist, Propagandist, Chief Troll at Internet Research Agency, St. Petersburg, Russia. Ridiculous beard makes him look even more troll-like.

[@regscott7157]

jealousy is not a good look

[@newdawnrising8110]

Dmitry you missed a spot ...

[@unchiekun]

The beard is ridiculous

[@liamhackett513]

The hat is etc..

[@arsenalreign]

Chair is against the door

[@ikooch1]

The host talks too much

[@Oksendal5]

Grow beard!

[@vivekbagaria3324]

This guy thinks differently! But he is very biased due to his Russian origins. Honestly, Russia (in 2023) is more likely to collapse again before the world collapses. Also he worries about negative black swans but discounts positive black swans which can solve big problems the world is facing.

[@BN-em9qx]

this aged well...

[@panchitaobrian1660]

are you for real, Vivek? :))

[@ngcongyoncemixbaal4145]

Dimitry most be a well known person among intelectuals but he lacks personal energy to presente himself and his works. I think I'll prefer to read one of his books instead of listening to him.

[@regscott7157]

you have missed a gem

[@darkprince2490]

yes, but this guy ignores one crucial factor: the chinese nipping at our heels.

[@regscott7157]

ha ha you sure bought the media bullshit

[@paweex3655]

This dude is terrible.

[@Declanmaceircc]

Why is that?

[@JoeHeine]

🤣🤣🤣

[@duanesbuhler7696]

Awesome video, this information will help.