Identification is the Chief Obstacle to Awakening

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Жыл бұрын

Discover the transformative power of overcoming identification in this insightful video, as we explore how embracing your true self can lead to a profound spiritual awakening.
In this video we delve into the common obstacle of identification - the attachment to our thoughts, emotions, and roles - which keeps us tethered to a limited sense of self, preventing us from experiencing our true nature.
By understanding and overcoming the chief obstacle of identification, you can unlock your potential for growth, self-discovery, and spiritual enlightenment.
Embark on this transformative path today and awaken to the boundless possibilities of your true nature. Subscribe and join the conversation in the comments section below. Let's awaken together!

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@DUST35
@DUST35 Жыл бұрын
You definitely hit the nail on the head with these two last videos on identification. There's actually something called Ego Development Theory (EDT by Susanne Cook-Greuter) related to this topic; "Integrative stages move from identifying with others who are externally alike to oneself at Stage 3, to the like-minded at Stage 4, to the like-principled at Stage 5, and to the like-spirited at the Unitive Stage 6---where spirit is seen as radiant in all sentient beings." Between these stages are times of differentiation where individuals "can step back and distance themselves from the previous known holding environment ... At the same time they generally express some distress because of the loss of the connections and certainty they leave behind. " I don't know if this information is helpful, but EDT seems to suggest that one would have to move through these stages of identification before being able to finally "see through the attempts of the ego to codify and explain reality"; "Self-awareness seems to move from first noticing concrete, external features, to traits, to behavior patterns, to awareness of how patterns are acquired via cultural conditioning, to seeing interrelated systems, and finally, to see through the attempts of the ego to codify and explain reality." As G. said; this is the "chief obstacle."
@bogieviews
@bogieviews Жыл бұрын
Self observation - attention directed with double arrow. Identification - attention captured, single arrow. Dreaming - no arrow.
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 Жыл бұрын
Well said! 🙏
@ajaysanchaniya13
@ajaysanchaniya13 Жыл бұрын
Can you please explain in details about self observation and divided attention thanks
@Ilikemywife
@Ilikemywife Ай бұрын
This hit home
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 Ай бұрын
Happy to hear that the video was impactful.
@baronbullshyster2996
@baronbullshyster2996 9 ай бұрын
The observer and the observed. Or the the awareness of your experience. In remembering to remember yourself. You become aware of what you’re experiencing. But you then notice you can notice your awareness. So you experience awareness or to but it another way your awareness has become experience. So you are everywhere and on where at once.
@alexandrasavtchenko1962
@alexandrasavtchenko1962 Ай бұрын
Even if people push against their conditioning-this still then constitutes their identity and identification (sometimes even more strongly because they feel proud that it is self-made!). One idea of why it is so difficult to dis-identify is presented by A. H. Almaas in the book The Point of Existence. In this book he surveys research coming from the field of psychology and child development and shows that identification is an integral part of ego formation. So it is not only a matter of being conditioned by culture-but actually part of how the psyche and the ego is formed in a human being. I recommend this reading as additional context. To dis-identify would essentially mean to deconstruct the ego, which is extremely difficult to do. Perhaps hence the spiritual practices, and Gurdjieff too, are so clear that it is an extremely difficult process that must not be done alone.
@junestout3404
@junestout3404 8 ай бұрын
Hello I am interested in awakened. Where is the group
@mocheeks76
@mocheeks76 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your work. Please share the discord link with me. The other one on the thread seems to have expired.
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that. Yes, of course. Here is the link: discord.gg/kcWYHkhX
@mirian593
@mirian593 Ай бұрын
If you still doing the group I would like to have the link please 😊. Thank you
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 Ай бұрын
Of course. Come in and introduce yourself, and I’d love to hear how you discovered Gurdjieff: discord.gg/nUaGB3j7
@junestout3404
@junestout3404 6 ай бұрын
I would like to join the group
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 6 ай бұрын
Here’s the link discord.gg/czM2eAxC
@peantud12
@peantud12 Жыл бұрын
You should consider making a discord group
@bookclub5291
@bookclub5291 Жыл бұрын
We have had one for only a short time, less than a week perhaps. Join us: discord.gg/hRyDUum3
@lonestar5281
@lonestar5281 Жыл бұрын
@@bookclub5291 Looks like the invite link has expired. Could I have another?
@divatikihut
@divatikihut 22 күн бұрын
@@lonestar5281I would like it also
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