Identify Mystery Gems V1

[@barrymunro6861]

I like the direction you've taken last couple vids, teaching & showing how to discern gems. Thank you (hanging for the newsletter). Cheers.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@barrymunro6861 thank you~ and keep your eyes peeled.

[@williamharberts5514]

Simply wonderful episode.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you ~ glad it was enjoyable.

[@MrBendylaw]

The most valuable member of the pirate crew was the gemologist, I've heard.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I'm willing to agree to perpetuate that idea.

[@MrBendylaw]

@GemologyforSchmucks Aaaarrrrrhh!

[@ChrismDove]

This is the first time I've seen a video on multiple types of gemologicsl testing being shown. I don't have any experience. This is an awesome video. I think all the different colors of spinel are beautiful. Thank you!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks ~ and glad to be of service.

[@Mortum_Rex]

Thanks for your valuable time and what you do. You're the best gem I've come across.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@Mortum_Rex glad to be of service

[@LostWithoutHer]

That chart though! Pure gold. I'd make multiple copies and get them laminated, incase I spill my golden rooibos masala, turmeric chai latte, or cranberry blood orange tea on it in a "eureka!" moment. In the meanwhile, a library of reference books covering all sorts of gems and minerals from the known to the forgotten or strangely named will do. 🤔

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

It's a wise notion. We did the same in my gemology course. These bad boys are just too lørge.

[@Liburni]

Woow thank you for all of your great videos, very useful , THANK YOU!🖖

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@Liburni glad it was helpful~

[@SnowTiger45]

Great video (as always). Very informative. As a gem cutter, I like to know what I'm buying/cutting and that has not always been the case. I definitely don't want to get stiffed with a Spinel when I've been sold a "Sapphire" !~ I recently purchased a Polariscope and a Refractometer (among other tools) and just acquired 6th Edition of "Gem Identification Made Easy" by Antoinette Matlins to help me along the way. In fact, I attended an online seminar with her as the guest speaker only 2 weeks ago. It definitely can be mind boggling but gemology is very interesting to me especially now that I'm learning how to properly identify different minerals with some confidence. Your videos have been very helpful and for that I thank you. 🙂

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Glad to be of service, and those instruments will go a long way to help you in that pursuit.

[@kaischonberger97]

Great video again. Love the educational content! When you got out the chart I was wondering if Gem identification from a given set of properties would be something that an LLM (Large language model) is good at. So I fed all the properties and observations into a prompt and surprisingly the AI got 2/3 correct. For the first stone it guessed Blue spinel which was correct. For the second stone the AI guessed Pezzottaite which is wrong since the RI doesn't match. I changed the color from Raspberry to light red and the result was Pyrope Garnet. The RI and the singly refractiveness would match this stone. I rephrased the prompt and the AI changed to Spinel. For the third stone the AI guessed Spinel immediately again. Of course those LLM guesses are not reliable, but still interesting to see the result :D

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Definitely an interesting experiment. The real challenge though is getting the data in the first place i'd say. Because of all the lenses involved in testing, even to get the overlay footage for this video took ages. Theres the macro lens on my camera, and getting that to focus correctly with the lenses in the refractometer and polariscope... downright beastly. The technological gap (especially for cost of making the instruments) will likely keep gemologists relevant for a long time to come.

[@kaischonberger97]

@@GemologyforSchmucks We appreciate the effort you do to get those things all on video for us🤩

[@c.thompson9771]

Spessartine, kunzite, paraiba? Dang spinels, lol!! Well done! 😊

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Good on you for having a guess going into it though~ that’s what helps the info to stick once you hear the process.

[@jonathonalsum9063]

Great stuff, very useful topic. 🎉❤

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@jonathonalsum9063 thanks~ more in the works soon.

[@stevenpolack4444]

Thanks for the knowledge, appreciate it💙. Hope your doing well and best of luck with your work 👍

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

You're welcome, and thanks for your support.

[@jenisnow9075]

You said garnets don't flouresce. That is incorrect. There are some garnets found that do flouresce. A commercial name of one type is Dragon Garnet, but there are a number of other garnets that do flouresce.

[@phoenixadams9962]

Tsavorite garnet fluoresces.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks for the correction - my statement was an overgeneralization. It would have been more accurate for me to say that almandine garnets do not fluoresce due to their iron content. I'll look for samples and hope to revisit this topic in a new video in the future.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Some tsavorite (grossular garnet) may fluoresce, yes. Thanks for pointing this out.

[@ivorypoacherplays]

This is great, thank you for all of your great videos and info. I have a ton of cut stones that haven't been selling lately. Not sure if its the economy or what but my sales have been really sluggish.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thanks~ businesses transform, and finding the most effective way to get our customers' attention is definitely one of the constant challenges.

[@romanvirec2186]

I was taught that an RI reading should be taken to three decimal places. It also seems that you don't use the monochromatic sodium light with your refractometer. Anyways, great educational videos! 👍 Keep posting them!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

If one can manage that level of accuracy, its definitely desireable. Some stones have such small birefringence that it would be necessary/ extremely helpful in some contexts. Correct on the sodium light filter - I have one, but haven't found it to be strictly necessary for most identification, so it typically gets neglected.

[@fire8345]

THANK YOU!!!

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

My pleasure~

[@ganjacat8408]

Garnet or Spesserite, or Spinel cause I dont think its a Ruby,... Amethyst, and Sapphire. A very light blue sapphire. ...... Lets see if I was right!>>>>

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

It's a wide and wild world of gems out there eh?~

[@jamesmorton-taylor7081]

learnt a lot ty vm

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

@@jamesmorton-taylor7081 glad I could help.

[@austinfreyrikrw6651]

Great video! Ok now, please stop giving away all our fellow Gemmologists’ trade secrets. 😉

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you ~ and no promises ;)

[@dawnmorning]

Great video but some garnets show foursence.

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

Thank you - and yes, you're correct. My phrasing was over-general as I was speaking to almandine (iron bearing) garnets in this context. Some of our other community members also mentioned tsavorite (grossular garnet) fluorescing. I'll likely need to do a follow up video soon to correct the misunderstanding. Cheers

[@zeburgerkang]

headed to thailand in feb, wanna come buy some stones?

[@GemologyforSchmucks]

I would prefer to sell some stones, thank you.

[@zeburgerkang]

@@GemologyforSchmucks ill buy almost anything wholesale... Currently setting up base out of Australia (home). starting small. on the constant look out for wheelers and dealers.

[@zeburgerkang]

how much vitriol was typed out in that last comment?.... xD

[@ivorypoacherplays]

Smash