IDGAF About The Male Loneliness Epidemic 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@EasyBreezie]

You know what’s crazy? When people say “women fear for their lives every day” ..I never used to truly agree or resonate with that statement UNTIL I really thought about it.. Every time I go hiking, I bring weapons with me just in case there is a crazy man on the mountain. Every time I leave my studio, I look around to make sure a man isn’t spying on me or following me. Every time I’m at the gas station I look around to make sure a man isn’t trying to rob me or kidnap me. I actually DO “fear” for my life but I didn’t even notice it because it’s so second-nature for me.😩

[@noahsanchez5329]

That's called paranoia. Stop watching true crime and smoking pot

[@EasyBreezie]

@@noahsanchez5329 I actually don’t watch any of those shows.😩 but your comment came RIGHT on time because tonight (literally 4 hours ago) a man open-🔥’d on the mountain I normally hike on and then he offed himself once the cops showed up.

[@ryss335]

@@noahsanchez5329 what paranoia? when maIes did 90%of aII crlmes in the worId, it's caIIed seIf preservation

[@AguanoMuldtord]

@@EasyBreezie I have seen video on sm of men harassing women in parking lot on broad daylight going to their car 🚗 leaving a grocery store! See postings with evidence of attempt to steel a wmn from a parking lot too, bus stop. It’s all over! Attempt to harm, harass or “steel” a woman all in broad daylight, in public by men they don’t know, have never seen.

[@C_L.]

​@@ryss335 *noahsanchez is slow.*

[@amandajade8012]

This is reminding me of a Margaret Atwood quote I once read that stated that while women fear being killed, men fear being laughed at.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

This is why I never tell anyone about my problems. What I don't get is women complain about that too.

[@NinaGothMambaNegra]

yes, and the will unalive you for even the mere perception of being mocked

[@cathybutcher4826]

And they take being laughed at far more seriously than a woman being killed. Scary priorities. ☠️

[@Christina-sf4py]

​​​@@NinaGothMambaNegrayep cant tell how many times a bloke snapped at me for bringing up something that embarrassed them (unknowingly!..but that didnt matter to them, they still snapped, poor babies ffs !). 🦘

[@Christina-sf4py]

​@@NinaGothMambaNegrayes

[@Lyrielonwind]

When they say they are tougher because they are not emotional; what do they think rage is, a skin problem?

[@sunkissedn71]

😂

[@seabreeze4559]

they blame shift to us for 'losing' their temper... no they choose to lose it

[@JustMe-vs1kj]

The fact that they think theyre not emotional and that supposidly makes them strong..... like youre a psychopath and are proud of it??

[@kaikai9652]

And it’s not that they’re NOT emotional at all. It’s that they refuse to express or experience emotions in a healthy way. It’s that they choose to be blind to their own emotions. I don’t know what to call that other than a liability.

[@nightfall3605]

Who was it that said the greatest trick men pulled was calling themselves the natural leaders because they are less emotional by branding rage as “not an emotion”? Dudes, look at history…

[@ana-nim]

But men constantly say that they are very happy without women. That women nag, women take away their happiness, women don't let them enjoy freedom and free time. I don't see any problem with their loneliness, this is exactly what they wanted. Very happy for them.

[@athena1047]

Me too! They can eat what they want now and do the dishes

[@Yomel123]

That’s how you know it’s not about relationships. It’s only about sx. They’re crying cause women won’t sleep with them

[@seabreeze4559]

and they nag us about fixing their problems still, when it's THEIR life

[@pancakerepairman]

could it be different men saying different things? or should we act like every individual has co-signed everything ever said by anyone else of the same gender?

[@Christina-sf4py]

​@@pancakerepairmanwell yeah, but it is most men.

[@Cathyblj]

They don’t care what women think, but the opinions of other men are of paramount importance.

[@InternetNonsense]

And they're surprised women are giving up on them and cackle at "communicate" advice. Can't teach who doesn't want to learn. If they tell each other how great and what a prize full of value they are, then they can date each other too, 'cuz we ain't seeing or feeling it via their actions towards us.

[@TheNinnyfee]

These men only see other men as humans. Women and children are objects to enhance their lives. Once you realize objectifying behaviour you walk away asap.

[@user-sg4ov7ng4h]

@@Naigus except women have been the 2nd sex even if they work a lot more for century in most countries, men aren't.

[@emmamartin4045]

@SimWolfeYeah, we don’t care. Move on.

[@SimWolfe]

@@emmamartin4045 Who was that reply for?

[@MyDuckSaysFucc]

Ok but this is SO true. A friend of mine, her boyfriend is a king baby. Every time I’m there he’s moping about in the background and she has to “check in” with him to see if he’s ok. I made fun of it one time and he went on a rant that everyone asks for men to talk about their feelings but when they do they get made fun of. SIR you are a grown ass man, communicate your feelings like an ADULT I don’t want to see your weird little boy fetish!!! Sick of baby men and the women that enable them.

[@teresamagnusson]

If a man acts in a dignified manner, even at a vulnerable moment, I will treat him with dignity. If he throws a tantrum, I won't. It's just that simple.

[@autumn5758]

Yikes. Typical of friendships with women who center men

[@mushroommagic1697]

That is the consequence of how men are brought up to be main characters and forever children. Men are in a meltdown because the reality doesn't fits with the narrative they have been brought up to believe (if you are a man you are perfect and everything should be handed to you because you have a pri*ck). Have you observed how the main rant in this loneliness epidemic is that men aren't spoiled, forgiven and coddled anymore? They can't get over the fact that now society and women expect them to be mature, cool headed, to have a direction and be present, involved and act like adults. They want adulthood to be like childhood when he got a tiny scratch and mommy was there to comfort him, make his favorite meal and cuddle him. Women should ditch those heavy burdens and look for honest and mature men.

[@mushroommagic1697]

@@teresamagnusson Approved, men should not cosplay being strong and mature but act like a 2 year old stuck in the body of a grown ass man.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Yes they do need to talk about their feelings, but they need to make it normal and not a constant thing

[@FireSilver25]

The loneliest I’ve ever been was in a relationship with a narc boyfriend. We lived together and I still felt alone. Worse than alone because I was walking on eggshells. I tried talking to him about it but you can guess how that went. But when I left he crashed out and became a drunk, even taking off of work. It’s a male entitlement crisis IMO.

[@amberfuchs398]

"It's a male entitlement crisis" Bingo!

[@veebliss1266]

narcs are the worse , talk about they torture you literally and still bully you after they leave you , stalk you etc cheat on you are corn addicts etc

[@peachesandpoets]

its over 2 years later and I'm still recovering from someone I call "the 6 month narcissist". That shit is horrible

[@raynebow5289]

Well said

[@LouLouLion]

Male entitlement is right on the money

[@beeha8133]

They treat everyone around them like crap, even each other. They don’t have deep relationships, and every relationship is surface and transactional… I wonder why they are lonely🤷🏾‍♀️🤣

[@kittykatz4001]

Don’t forget: they have or had mothers, sisters other women relatives whom they tune out and won’t listen too, who worried about them.

[@mysteriouswon6899]

And they join chat groups on how to harm and violate the women in their lives. They deserve to be alone.

[@AndreiFantastic]

They are soooo mean to each other. From the time they're little they embarrass and harass their friends, its sad. I still remember walking by a couple of dudes clowning a coworker because he gave his dog supplements. BECAUSE HE CARED ABOUT HIS DOG ?!?!? And one of the idiots was like hurrhurrdurr I just call my an ahhhole. Like he really thought he was making himself look like a tuff masculine alpha by clowning that another man cared about his dogs health 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Meanwhile I'm over here attracted to his caring cute self.

[@kittykatz4001]

@@AndreiFantastic Exactly! They are so policing of each other! They know they had a pet they loved. Yrs ago, there was a crime story of some goof-ball, (my memory is foggy) who kidnapped a scientist or something and demanded the scientist “clone” his dog. Kidnapping is cr!me, but is was wild! 😝 Poor fellow. I may have mixed up some deets, but some fellow with a beloved dog, really broke the law trying to get someone to “clone” his dog. 😢 I read something about pet cloning, and even if rich as oligarch, cloning still won’t give the “duplication” of the experience with the pet you love enough to spend $ to clone anyway-in short, you aren’t preserving the same experience with the same pet. But these guys made a mockery of another guy keeping his dog healthy? 😳

[@christinacreates2393]

All relationships are transactional

[@VixxKong2]

The people that you uplift the most are the people you should turn to for help when you're in need. Too bad for the men who only value and support other men, but expect women to take care of their needs for free.

[@InternetNonsense]

Exactly, they revere men only and yet dare ask anything of women. It's a two-way feedback street. You want to impress other boys, you live with them! What's in it for us?

[@AguanoMuldtord]

The fellow holding this retreat getting a bag!

[@IcyMoshi]

While neglecting them 😂 aka my exs who took took took and never gave back then complained how lonely they were when I stopped begging for there love and focused on myself instead.

[@kinseydesignsbrands]

Makes me think of the men's version of the man vs bear debate, which was sharing their feelings with a tree or a woman, and they were like "i'd pick the tree cause at least the tree would listen." My boyfriend brought this up with me saying he saw other men saying this and wanted my take on it, and all I said was the Margaret Atwood quote: "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them." and he had no rebuttal, because he gets it and is emotionally intelligent. You're so on point in this video, cause is it really women that aren't listening to mens emotions? Most women I know give their partner the space to open up. It's so tiring being blamed for a problem of their own making.

[@anthill1510]

If they want somebody to listen to their problems, they can talk to another man. What does any of this have to do with us?

[@Jamhael1]

Nah, he is "emotionally convenient". Bell Hooks say that about what women in the end want from men...

[@Jamhael1]

​@@anthill1510 because women claim to want for men to listen to them.

[@Mrsgmuller73]

​@Jamhael1 but men don't, and yet, they want to be heard and comforted?

[@Mrsgmuller73]

The truth is that they are resenting that can't just make woman marry them anymore. They resent to be single and not having a personal punching bag for them to unload their unresolved problems.

[@brandy4530]

It’s not about their inability to share their feelings. It’s that they don’t know how to BE a friend. You can’t have friends if you can’t be a friend. Apparently, men can, in fact, have a relationship with a woman and not be in a relationship with her. It is easier for men to get with women, and not give anywhere near as much as she gives. They can’t do this with other men, because so many of them are always trying to get more while giving less. That’s what’s wrong with them. What they really need a retreat to learn how to invest in their relationships, and not just emotionally bleed all over the place.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

😂😂😂😂 what cap. Sorry. You've probably known men like this but there is a loneliness epidemic with men and good men at that and it isn't exclusive to men. Many women are experiencing it now though not as many as men obviously. Look at the viral "I'm blank age and have no friends" videos. Not taking away from your experience tho

[@nahdawg299]

Blink if the good men are in the room with you Honestly the "good" ones are useless too, i often see the ones that *could* have potential simping and caping for the TERRIBLE ones so I DON'T CARE

[@fantym-1]

​@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 ... there is a loneliness epidemic w/mn & good mn @ that..." Sounds like a mail problem. Take it up w/y'alls homies.

[@brandy4530]

“Many women are experiencing it now though not as many as men obviously.” 🙄 This is why it is a problem with men, because it overwhelmingly affects men. Sure, there have always been lonely women, but this epidemic overwhelmingly affects men. Men also turn destructive and violent when they are lonely. They aren’t just sad. We know for a fact that men do not invest in their relationships. This is the problem. Women are better at building their own communities, but men are not. This isn’t just my experience. Mountains and mountains of research backs this up.

[@charnaeyoung9815]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259The biggest joke is that men know what GOOD MEN are. They can barely vet for their daughters, let alone for their friendships. 😂😂😂

[@JessicaSmith-ed1sw]

No one wants to hang out with people who abuse and extort them... Cause and effect.

[@csherman47]

I wish I could give this 10000 Likes. So clueless they can’t figure out why women don’t want to be around them.

[@ana-nim]

​@@csherman47 oh, they understand why. They just don't care. They believe that women are supposed to be treated this way, that it's a natural order and women should just suck it up and still do everything for men.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

It says a lot when other men don't event want to be their friends 😂

[@marlavice3267]

"They hate each other because they know each other." 🤭😂

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@marlavice3267 that is the dumbest thing I ever heard of.

[@marilynwarbis7224]

Once upon a time, I was told by a new and self-pitying partner - "I never knew a more sympathetic woman." Yes, I was, it was my nature and also the times I grew up in. But what an absolute fool I was in the face of reality, because what I got in return was spite, condemnation, being ignored, and used. Nowadays I can spot self-pity the moment it opens its mouth and I find that many men carry this characteristic and expect women to respond to it sympathetically. However, I am today free from falling into that trap and can detach myself from their weak and self-serving expectations.

[@jrmetmoi]

Thank goodness for that

[@EuphemiaWisdom]

My ex-husband was similar, he had the hard working, under appreciated persona down. I thought it was sad and unfair how no one was in his corner or being supportive. I didn't realize that I would be attempting to fill an abyss. Indifference or rage were the emotions he had access to. Unless he wanted me to cook or be a masturbatory vessel then he'd put on a happy demeanor and actually talk to me. He cheated and accused me of only caring about money. They have to be taught from the same text book, because they rarely deviate.

[@sharon_rose724]

​@@EuphemiaWisdomAttempting to fill an abyss 🎯 and losing yourself in the process

[@martibee8984]

Most of my exes had the same issue. My dumb empathetic self lol. The one could never be happy unless he just had smex, or if someone gifted him something. He complained about everything, and still does. His job was the best one he's ever had according to him, but hated it. Many things about it were so great, but he hated it. If he got bored at home he hated being home. If he had to leave home for just about anything he hated not being home. He'd complain about something, and as soon as something happened that should have been an improvement considering his complaints, that was also terrible. I told him all the time that he just needed to beech about something, anything, no matter how well things were, and that he would never be happy. Luckily I don't have to worry about trying to make him happy anymore. I could be a perfect human, and I still would never achieve that goal. He was the worst of my exes in that way, but it seems fairly common. They're making themselves miserable, and it's not even just their own perception.

[@writerraines]

@@martibee8984they really do weaponize their moods like that. Had an ex who started bragging he was “an Eeyore.” And he expected everyone around him to bend over backwards for his moods, all while refusing to learn basic mood regulation skills. It was so gross. He was in his damn 40’s.🙄

[@thekameru6058]

I suspect that men dont really want MEN to help them with their 'lonlieness epidemic' (in the majority of cases) because they know that men will tell men to eff themselves the moment that they start to over step or get too into the 'woe is me' mode within an hour of meeting them. Much better to try to drop all that chaos onto a nice, warm hearted, kind woman. I mean, they don't mind it, plus the sob story might get them some hex, riiiiiiight?

[@emhu2594]

I've never heard of this male loneliness epidemic thing, you must be talking about the toxic masculinity and male entitlement epidemic.

[@kittykatz4001]

That is why I feel like “Scott” even when being interviewed by men or on a male platform, I really talking to, addressing women, like dog whistling for us to DO something. I really don’t think “Scotty” is talking to men to “DO” something. A lot of these dudes have mom, sister, aunt blah blah who know them and care about them. These “lonely” males aren’t living alone in the woods in a hut 🛖 like a medieval hermit. They don’t have women to give them low-effort p. They won’t pay to go where they can legally go to the state to pay for P. They tune out the caring voices of their mother, granny, sister etc. These men have women relatives. They don’t listen to them. Here is more 🐂 dodo: old movies and sit coms are full of the running gag of the husband hiding in his “man cave” basement, garage, or lodge of the order of buffalos (flintstones) , to escape their wives! Running gag throughout old movies, old tv even cartoons, fleeing their kill-joy wives to “have fun” orchestrated NOT talk to her and kids. They don’t enjoy being with each other, or they would. They don’t enjoy women when they are in “ possession” of one. Don’t enjoy their kids, blah flarking blah! I swear to heaven, “Scotty” boy is “telegraphing” to random women to have “pity” on these foods. The joke is, unless they each get a supermodel of their own to 💥, and to lie and tell them they’re fabulous, nothing will satisfy them. These doods have women family members, or at one time did. Flork off!

[@kittykatz4001]

@@emhu2594Act like you never hear of it and keep yourself safe. It’s baloney.

[@lilyeunix5975]

They associate showing weakness to another man as being "lower" than him, but have no problem showing this to women. It's cause, if he's being held accountable by another man, he shamefully has to shut up and take it with his head down, while if it's a woman, he can yell over her, react with/ threaten violence or start a fight without much consequence. A fellow man could potencially ostracize him from the friend group, yell back with more force and beat him up if he tries to throw hands. If the tells anyone about this, he wouldn't get support and may even be "looked down on" by fellow men 🥺 Women however walk on eggshells with unreasonable males, lest he hurl abuse at her, beat her up or even m*rder her cause he got "angry" or "his demons" got to him 🥴 Plus his friends and other men would back him up, empathize with him and if not, do their favorite: blame the woman for "hurting his feelings" thus deserving of the result ✨ I've never seen a man hold another man accountable in such a relationship situation 😂 They know they're biased, and they all know they support this in hopes of gaining male support when they do the same thing. They all know how dirty themselves and their friends are on the inside, just another reason can never trust/open up amongst themselves 😮‍💨

[@teresamagnusson]

They don't want men, they want us. But they can't have us.

[@SunnyHeartKay]

And it’s so annoying how they always want women to be a free therapist but the moment we start speaking, they’re annoyed and very uninterested. The moment a man starts going on about his problems now I cut his short real quick.

[@seabreeze4559]

I just tell them I didn't ask or I don't wanna know. Stuff men say ALL the time. Or just tell them need therapy for that and it's inappropriate to mention randomly.

[@argonionlaser488]

Same! I don't let them go on for more than 10 seconds, "Sorry bro that sucks". Keep it brief bc that male will NEVER give you the time of day when it comes to your own problems. Treat them the way they treat you. Males are inherently self-centered.

[@YourMajesty143]

Men unload their problems on us bc they see us as receptacles of whatever they expel from their bodies - whether that's emotions or baby batter, either way they expect us to carry their garbage for them. They just want to use us as an emotional outlet, they don't care about our insights & opinions. From their perspective, our only job is to quietly absorb their stress off of them and do the labor of soothing them. That's it. So it's worse than wanting a therapist, bc what they actually want is a mommy or nanny. At least a therapist gives feedback, but a mom/nanny just kisses the boo-boo away & makes it all better. That's why deep-down most of the time a man is a perpetual child who never matured enough to develop proper coping skills. Their only understanding of how to heal is to turn to women to nurse their wounds & nurture them back to health.

[@AremuJejeofdavillage]

Don’t think anyone has ever opened up to you 😅 but feel free to trauma bond

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@@SunnyHeartKay according to what? You?

[@EnergeticEmpatheticExhausted]

They know what they do to women when they’re vulnerable. They don’t want to be treated like they treat others. It’s wild.

[@LoneWulf278]

Bingo!

[@maxpayne232]

Nope. They wanna be valued as human beings rather than how much they can provide. Crazy how much women hate the patriarchy while still holding up the standards they can benefit from whilst being completely unaware that they're doing it.

[@A1SoniaM]

Can we all agree to stop calling it 'male loneliness epidemic' and replace that phrase with, the more accurate, 'the male, woman-repellant, self-induced behaviour'?

[@toscadonna]

It’s the FAFOdemic.

[@ana-nim]

Someone call it male horniness epidemic because nothing stops men from bonding with each other

[@TexanBeautie]

Best comment!!!

[@anthill1510]

​@@ana-nim Exactly. I have listened to a few podcasts, where even "experts" spoke about it and all they were talking about was "this percentage of men didn`t have s** in the last year". "This percentage of young men are not in a relationship". Excuse me, I thought you were talking about loneliness? It`s not about loneliness, not at all. Took a damn researcher in this field 1,5 hours of talking before he ever mentioned friendships. This is about people worrying that men don`t have access to p****, even though in their eyes they should have. They think it`s a right for a man to have that.

[@anthill1510]

​@@ana-nim ​ Exactly. I have listened to a few podcasts, where even "experts" spoke about it and all they were talking about was "this percentage of men didn`t have s** in the last year". "This percentage of young men are not in a relationship". Excuse me, I thought you were talking about loneliness? It`s not about loneliness, not at all. Took a damn researcher in this field 1,5 hours of talking before he ever mentioned friendships. This is about people worrying that men don`t have access to womens bodies, even though in their eyes they should have. They think it`s a right for a man to have that.

[@user-ii3vn8tn3q]

Why are men lonely? There are plenty of other men for company.

[@AguanoMuldtord]

But when did men “enjoy” companionship of women? Do they enjoy companionship of their gf, of their wife? Do they?

[@elisavh7]

They drain our energy and that's how they get rejuvenated. They can’t get that effect from other men who are just as dead inside as they are.

[@qiaraoneal7047]

This! 🎯

[@justv7370]

​@@AguanoMuldtord they do enjoy female presence, and pretend they don't to sound cool 😂

[@StefanTaf]

They don't like other men either

[@afghdkfekjk1509]

Did men care about women's lonliness when we had to be in a relationship to survive? When we had to rely on men for shelter food and any other resource? Or were they enjoying the bachelor life, while using women for their bodies?

[@marys2406]

This.

[@tigerprincess816]

This!

[@ryss335]

Thiss

[@IrisDel-qo8xi]

That's why Idgaf about their loneliness

[@qiaraoneal7047]

🎯

[@toscadonna]

But loneliness to nem only means lack of xesual access to as many women as they want NOT the actual definition of loneliness as in not having companionship and friendship. They pitch a fit when they’re “friend zoned” which means they have NO motivation to be friends with anyone.

[@anthill1510]

Exactly. It`s NOT about loneliness, it`s about men wanting access to womens bodies and emotional labor and them not getting it. I watched an "expert" talk about it for 1,5 hours!!! before he ever even mentioned friendships at all. Before that it was only "this percentage of men are not in relationships" and "this percentage of men didn`t have s** in the last year". "This is a crisis". I am disgusted that they call it a loneliness epidemic and pretend they care about the wellbeing of men, when all it actually is "Hey, they don`t get enough p****! Why are young men not getting enough p****, there is a crisis, men are getting discriminated" Because that`s how they frame it: P**** is something men should have access to and if they don`t, there is a societal crisis. I only just notice how much I am disgusted by all of this.

[@kadiansenoj1849]

This!!!!!! Exactly

[@anthill1510]

Yap, the first thing they do when they start talking about it is they come with the statistic of "this percentage of young men didn`t have smeggs within the last year". Excuse me, I thought we were talking about loneliness, not about access to womens bodies? The next thing they present is the statistics how many men are not in relationships. Excuse me, aren`t we talking about friendships? We are not even going to pretend this isn`t about men thinking they have a right to access women? Also noticeable: They don`t seem to be at all aware that gay and bi men exist. They never mention anything about that. Because it`s ONLY about access to womens bodies and labor.

[@anthill1510]

Yap, the first thing they do when they start talking about it is they come with the statistic of "this percentage of young men didn`t have sm gs within the last year". Excuse me, I thought we were talking about loneliness, not about access to womens bodies? The next thing they present is the statistics how many men are not in relationships. Excuse me, aren`t we talking about friendships? We are not even going to pretend this isn`t about men thinking they have a right to access women? Also noticeable: They don`t seem to be at all aware that gay and bi men exist. They never mention anything about that. Because it`s ONLY about access to womens bodies and labor.

[@anthill1510]

Yap, the first thing they do when they start talking about it is they come with the statistic of "this percentage of young men didn`t have sm gs within the last year". Excuse me, I thought we were talking about loneliness, not about access to women? The next thing they present is the statistics how many men are not in relationships. Excuse me, aren`t we talking about friendships? We are not even going to pretend this is actually about loneliness? Nope. Also noticeable: They don`t seem to be at all aware that gay and bi men exist. They never mention anything about that. Because it`s ONLY about access to women.

[@jelatinosa]

In my culture, as I'm sure in many others, there are insult words to describe women who were alone, uncoupled or lonely past their mid 20s. No such type of words exist for men. Women have suffered loneliness since forever, and they were ostracized for it, it wasn't seen as something they should be coddled for and to be solved by society. When women are lonely they live peacefully, maybe adopt a few cats. When men feel lonely they make it everyone's problem by acting out and throwing violent tantrums. This is because men don't know how to take accountability and responsibility for themselves. Anytime they have a problem, even the smallest issue of their own making, such as their "loneliness", they want to blame someone else(women) and make it our problem and responsibility to solve, often under threat of an increase of violence against us.

[@seabreeze4559]

old maid in england, they want us to absorb their abuses

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

I don't think this could have been said any more perfectly. Excellent summation of this entire issue.

[@chai_lattes]

Truth👏👏👏

[@IceGoddessRukia]

Any time men do something I think about women and wonder how men would perceive a bunch of women going to some retreat in the mountains. Men usually get really freaked out or annoyed when women are all together so they'd probably think we were doing moon blood magic up there, lol.

[@dragonfox2.058]

We probably are 💜

[@csherman47]

@@IceGoddessRukia or cheating on them with bears

[@zaylinstar8883]

@@csherman47😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ana-nim]

They would simply mock and laugh. Making countless jokes about cat ladies and strong independent women. I wonder why women don't feel sorry for mem.

[@jinijinxer97]

They're afraid if we got together, it'd be the end of their abuse.

[@user-ce9xe1qe8i]

People don't really care about women being lonly. We're called crazy cat ladies or told it's our fault

[@OneNiftyBoi]

Are you serious?? Entire civilizations cater to women not being lonely.😅

[@shadow21134]

Not for good reasons what a woman wants is irrelevant and is catered to being surrounded by "family" that is more often than not abusive. That's why feminism exists in the first place because abuse was so common and many women had no way out other than to kill their own husbands.

[@AlligatorArt-dv9eu]

I literally see men on social media every day saying stuff along the lines of “Women are their own worst enemies 😄” and gleefully laughing about how we all apparently hate each other. They react with joy at the idea of us hating each other and not having friends yet they expect us to care about their “loneliness”. Make it make sense.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

And then they berate us when we end up LOVING being alone with our cats. That’s so funnyyyy

[@maxpayne232]

Sure.. and this video and most of this comment section is not blaming men for their own suffering ?

[@BL-sd2qw]

And then they make fun of the crazy old cat lady trope.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Agreed its hypcoritcal

[@CoderCoder-px4bd]

Yeah it’s all projection.

[@zacharybosley1935]

The cycle persists

[@no.6377]

I don't even get why the crazy cat lady is bad. She has cats. We love cats. 😊

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@no.6377 pssy bad they think. But in all seriousness, cats are pretty ungrateful.

[@ceruleanwonder]

I mean even when you do allow men to open up to you, what’s the point? The vast majority of them do not listen to good advice or you have to play the game where you ask leading questions and trick them into thinking the good advice/realization was their idea or they won’t accept it. Why would I, it anyone else, waste time doing that? As a rule I try to avoid people who are frustrating for no apparent reason. Interacting with them is not good for my blood pressure.

[@toscadonna]

Nem only open up to fake a more intimate relationship with you so that you’ll let them get xes from you. They are not capable of being human beings like women are. Everything they do or say is calculated to increase their chances of xes, control, power, or money at our expense.

[@teresam5199]

💯

[@MyTruthTriggersYou]

Yep. They just dump on you. Suck up our time and pity than drop us down the list of priorities until they need to vent again

[@ryss335]

Exactly this, I also avoid frustrating people but based on my experience they're mostIy maIes, I have Iots of those "good" guys vent on me and choose to ignore it when I gave advice untiI it was said by their feIIow maIes

[@NyttanGnistan-bd6gc]

Don’t have free therapy sessions.

[@K8isGr88]

"male loneliness" bruh everyone lonely, life is behind a paywall

[@charnaeyoung9815]

THIS! We’re all on the hamster wheel dude. Not just you.

[@navideology]

"life is behind a paywall" 🎯🎯🎯

[@MyTruthTriggersYou]

Omg yes!!! Never heard it say better

[@Protectionandblessings]

For real!

[@icingcake]

Real ⭐️🥇

[@fionajansen395]

One of the sad things is that I have complimented and showed platonic affection to male friends, they are unfortunately ex-friends because they took any amount of being nice or friendly as romantic attraction

[@AgainstLife1000]

Factsssss

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Same here. That's how I know it's not about loneliness. It's about being able to do whatever to women. They can stay where they are. Nothing they do is ever from a genuine place. That is why I cut off all of my male friends. Pretending to want to be someone's friend just to get their body is a huge betrayal to me.

[@thembekadorcaskhumalo866]

This!!

[@serenajoy84]

Not romantic, secksual. That's it. No love just access to your lower body

[@furuyakeifu]

One time I gave a guy in my friend group some homemade macaroons and next thing I know he’s physically latched onto me (in public)! I could feel his eyelashes on my face. I never called or followed up afterwards to see him so two years later he asked me if I had made macaroons for everyone, I immediately said yes (which was true but he didn’t see me give everyone treats). He was so excited about the special treatment yet he was someone who never returned calls/msgs even when I asked and I’ve seen his friends being rude to ppl right in front of him, even though he’s “nice” enough. Just dumb AF.

[@tinkerbellrochester7021]

They come into our spaces and act like jerks.

[@HHCF713]

And it just feeds into their loneliness. They will never acknowledge that they need help and fail to go and get it. It’s always blame others and not self.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

I'm so sorry

[@Elennar29]

talk about lady issues and always make it about them lol

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@tinkerbellrochester7021Just so you know. Disagreeing with you and explaining why you people are wrong is not "acting like jerks". It is just correcting your mistakes. P.S. Most of the visceral hatred found in this comment section is not from males. It is from females.

[@Her844]

That's why it's called "MEN☕" lol

[@sweetsarah226]

My brother went to one of those retreats, 😂😂😂 and he still hasn't reached out to apologize for all the effed up stuff he's done to me for my entire life, and he's got my dad on his side pressuring me to have a relationship with him.

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

Hold on to your boundaries and tell your dad to mind his own business before he’s the next entry on your ‘no contact’ list.

[@hevabmore]

My ex-husband did too...and we still couldn't make it.

[@ЗемфираАкова]

I started no contact with brother when he was single now he is married with kids and thinks that our relationship should start from the very beginning like nothing ever he did to me

[@teresamagnusson]

Don't give in. Defend your boundaries

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@@ЗемфираАкова… Can’t start over until he makes amends and acknowledge his wrongs.

[@afrofaeries]

I mean….have men tried smiling more? What were they wearing at the time?

[@kittykatz4001]

They need to be fit, masculine, and friendly and smile 😊

[@HHCF713]

😂I just cackled 😂

[@9darshana]

Why don't they just choose better. 🤔

[@Ayemik]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@srealone788]

@@9darshanaI’ve started telling them all off on that one. They’re just as bad. If not worse at choosing partners. Sorry but facts 🤣🤦🏻‍♀️☠️✅💯

[@TititoDeBologay]

I used to care, it cost me a gash on the forehead, trauma and anxiety. Now the only xy i care are my 15 years old and under nephews.

[@CitySlickerButtKicker]

Same! I have a 16 year old and a nephew that I love like my own

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

I'm sorry. You don't have to marry a man to show you care tho. Just being normal and caring. If you can't be friends with men because you don't trust them I get it too. Ur a gr8 mom

[@incisivecommenter5974]

​@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 see how dangerous men are? Even you're nice to them.

[@incisivecommenter5974]

​@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 She's not a mom either.

[@NeverYours-c5g]

Girl… I have to say I’m right there with you. I’m so sorry you had to go through that.

[@GodsDaughter444]

DID MEN NOT CREATE A SOCIETY WHERE IT’S NOT OKAY FOR THEM TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES? DIDN’T THEY DO THIS TO THEMSELVES? I’m confused!

[@csherman47]

@@GodsDaughter444 and then cry about it while perpetuating it

[@ddanielsmc]

Which generation are you talking about? Please say this to the young boys because they really need to hear how much people like you care.

[@Lyrielonwind]

They based their superiority on physical strengh, not on emotional resilience therefore, they had to denied their emotions and that's why they translate all emotions in rage. Also, rage is a way to avoid sadness, which can be the most dangerous emotion. No one can be enraged and sad at the same time.

[@careottjuice]

Didn't this stop in the 70s

[@Goddess_Infinity]

@@ddanielsmcis this not a man’s world ????

[@Urnotwelcomed-x8v]

Men are mad about the rules they made 😂

[@teresam5199]

Right ...like this was absolutely foreseeable

[@lordnokia4222]

​@@teresam5199 Massive L, if you didn't

[@indigostvr]

THIS.

[@Benjamin-hp8mw]

Somewhat but this was here before us we don’t create the environment

[@indigostvr]

@@Benjamin-hp8mw Deflection. You all still participate & uphold it though bc you still benefit from the other “perks”.

[@1108-g1q]

I saw this retreat. I think all of these men are strangers to each other who have paid to be there. It would be interesting to find out how many of the men kept in contact with each other. To know how many of them formed even somewhat long term friendships.

[@magnarcreed3801]

Fr. Like if it actually worked, good for them. I doubt some how.

[@Sugar_Fatale]

They had to pay?! That’s how you know they don’t really care about each other! They charge each other for support and community!

[@AguanoMuldtord]

@@Sugar_Fatale At least some guy (who held the retreat) got some money! 💵

[@getthatboy4274]

I saw one comment complain how one man’s wife persisted he go to the retreat and the commenter blamed the wife of HIS loneliness. Apparently wives are supposed to fill the void.

[@AguanoMuldtord]

@@getthatboy4274 Like “nagging” to see a doctor when 🩸 pouring out of every opening…😵‍💫

[@dezzyj1329]

That’s so true I never thought about it that way, but they make fun of everybody anytime a girl shows feelings it’s embarrassing. They’re always embarrassing us, but yeah, we somehow get over it.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

For real, they even make fun of women bc we tend to compliment eachother. They're so bitter it's pathetic

[@ZinkB]

Never seen a man complaining about this “epidemic” that wasn’t expecting a woman to solve it for them.

[@LeilaniLight11709]

If you had a meetup to end male loneliness, no one would show up.

[@leilanilamourKawaiiCollector]

But they’ll get together online in chat groups to plot and scheme how to harm women.

[@AguanoMuldtord]

Yep! Saw men hold a room on ch app yrs ago on men to talk about mental health. Discussion lasted 15, then turned the topic to women, and what women should do! 😮 This was before this talk of “loneliness epidemic.” Lies.

[@toscadonna]

Nem don’t even show up to speed dating, mixers, singles travel trips, church, etc. They’ll only go to the bar, gym, video games, or Thailand.

[@Elennar29]

if any person did this, there would be no one there and then blame us for it lol

[@Jamhael1]

Because the only solution offered would be "do better". Sorry go say, but women unfortunately believe that men are a "defective women".

[@YouTubeUzername]

I actually think this is hilarious, they deserve to be lonely, I honestly think that there is no hope for men and they will have to just learn to be content with being lonely. They are not going to change, they will continue to take and only care about themselves.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Women are lonely too. The loneliness epidemic doesn't only affect incls. Everyone has become selfish.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@KZbinUzername If you wanted men to be more content with being single, then why does MGTOW bother you so much? Just sayin.

[@blyss.x]

Men worry about being rejected. Women worry about being assaulted, raped, trafficked & killed. We are not the same ! 💀 The saddest / craziest part is i seriously see them argue that the former is worse than the latter ... 😳

[@Fandar]

Exactly. I don't blame anyone for using the KAM hashtag, even though it's rare.

[@chihirostargazer6573]

@@blyss.x But somehow men always try to make themselves sound like the victims... when they are the cause of most of the misery and horrors on this Earth.

[@pigeoness22]

They somehow need to go to the woods to show emotions ? They should smile more.

[@angelicarcturianmessagesan2830]

Didnt they state they would rather share their emotions with a tree over a woman? I dont see the issue lol 😂

[@nhvkuy4675]

Literally! 😂

[@AguanoMuldtord]

@@angelicarcturianmessagesan2830They can talk and smile at those trees too.

[@icingcake]

😂😂😂

[@nhvkuy4675]

@@angelicarcturianmessagesan2830 savage 👑

[@genevieveaniko6492]

Consequences of thinking that being a Ahole equates to masculinity. Not my problem. 🤷‍♀️

[@Annemarie_case143]

What i hate about them is they either brag or ask for empathy. "Men know how to be friends more than women" vs "men are lonelier than women" "Men are simple beings, we are happier tha women because we can be entertained by simple things" vs "unlike women, men are more depressed and nobody cares about our mental health" "It's men's world, we make the rules" vs "the world doesn't care about men" Do you want to brag or do you want to ask for sympathy, PICK A STRUGGLE

[@ryss335]

Exactly!!! Wish that I could save this comment, you have no idea how many times I heard the "women's friendship are so hard, maIes is so simpIe we get friends easiIy" but yet they expirience IoneIiness rn and ask for our sympathy

[@maggie6152]

Because men really have a hard time turning off the competitive behavior. Lotta guys feel like they always have to be "winning" or they're "losing". I wish more men saw how damaging this attitude is.

[@Whoareyou2024]

Exactly, what is this “vs” used in every thing? Are we tekken or street fighter game. No, so it is useless to keep using it.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@Annemarie_case143 it's a man's world? Then why are women the gender who is proped up on a pedestal?

[@MsNatiBug]

Empathy isn’t sympathy. These losers are seeking sympathy. Anyone with true empathy would see they’re full of 💩 right? So they don’t want empathy. They want vapid sympathy and also worship.

[@andreavantzet1962]

"You suffer from male loneliness? That sounds like a "you" problem".

[@TS-hz5jb]

They need to smile more.😆

[@anthill1510]

Sounds like a problem men can solve among themselves.

[@Her844]

​@@TS-hz5jb 😂😂yes girly

[@theloneliestloveliesttime]

"you just want to complain, you dont want solutions"😂

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@@andreavantzet1962 MGTOW isn't feeling lonely.

[@Mrsgmuller73]

They are not lonely, they just resent they can't f0rce women to marry them anymore.

[@freedomishavingachoice3020]

Rejection occurs where freedom persists. Men do absolutely everything to avoid the feeling of rejection. That's why they like these retreats. Everyone wants to be there. Nearly zero chance to feel rejection.

[@quianadumas3550]

Pretty much

[@ShilgenVens]

This is the core of it. They don't get to be little kings anymore so now they're pouting, and plotting.

[@AlexHiggings]

That maybe the reason for them crashing out more and unaliving women

[@Reallythough]

They don’t want to be married the want more money so they can pay for a maid, chef and X workers. If you listen to them it always end up that they just don’t have the money they wished they had.

[@NinaGothMambaNegra]

They should stop developing dating apps and create some friendship apps for each other, like they did in the begining. Men got played by other dudes. And like gamblers, they will not accept this, because they have invested to much in the bet. They learnt nothing from Fight Club. But just like the gender discussion in matrix, men did not understood the movies, even though they watched them a thousand times.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Ofc they got whoosh when it comes to those movies. They don't have any media literacy or emotional intelligence to digest it

[@seabreeze4559]

fight club was literally satire and they STILL quote it proudly with zero irony

[@bevs9995]

There were no women on those apps to begin with. Women got unalived enough throughout history by strangers -- you aint gonna invent an app that ranks women by looks AND trying to make them meet strange men. Instagram was and is a much more popular "dating site"

[@MsZephyra]

OMG that's pathetic!! 😂😅 zero emotional intelligence sums it up...

[@yesandthankyou]

Literally cause and effect in action.

[@crystalglopez91623]

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!

[@AguanoMuldtord]

Like p.p. Against the wind! 🌬️

[@Greeeenskies]

Men dont even like each other, why are we expected to?

[@anteprs7908]

funny the same can be said about women

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Ignore the male troll. They just feel entitled to us.

[@anteprs7908]

@@UnrealDreamer3598 a troll nice you see men struggling ans trolls.

[@noahsanchez5329]

What are you on men don't like each other?😂 I've had no problems with my male friends I talk to women and their friends are always stabbing each other in the back and being passive aggressive. What are you smoking because I want some

[@CE98]

@@anteprs7908I love being a lesbian with my hot girlfriend and going out for dinner with my best friends. Love my two sisters and my mom! We love women and how good they are at communicating, being in tuned and how compassionate we are.

[@falkland_pinguin]

I feel like "male loneliness epidemic" just means that single men want girlfriends a lot more than single women want boyfriends. Men just try to dramatise any romantic rejection to be part of a "societal crisis" of some sorts, hoping it would make others agree that she was actually in the wrong. I don't think most men talking about this "loneliness epidemic" even care about loneliness from a mental health point of view.

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Nope they don't. I just saw one in the comments basically saying why pay a therapist when you have someone at home you can talk to. They want to unload on women mentally and emotionally and then expect her to let him unload physically on her without rest. I personally don't see this changing anytime soon. Men are going to have to suffer consequences for years to come before they get it through their skulls that they are the problem.

[@CE98]

Imagine that, a man not getting what he wants from a woman and it makes headlines as a crisis. Meanwhile women are reconsidering what state they can safely live in in 2025. I pray for reincarnation sometimes for this injustice.

[@neimadize]

Well, we’re all entitled to our own opinions.

[@Fandar]

Having a girlfriend at all, is a privilege.

[@NeverYours-c5g]

Thank you… so many of these weirdos really feel they’re entitled to us… it’s sick.. just creepy.

[@shani.ninety]

It is a privilege NOT a right like these men seem to think

[@ChiagoziemEze-Johnpaul]

Exactly it is a privilege for only those who are 1 Physically attractive 2 Tall 3 Have good personality and charisma

[@Em-tj6rh]

@@ChiagoziemEze-Johnpaulchild please get it together. Therapy is waiting for you.

[@Naigus]

In what way?

[@sillylittleboy7791]

Guys just gotta stop being negative and bringing positive girls down. Opening up to girls expecting them to be your therapist and your "toy" is messed up. Also stop making a persona and lying to lure women with what you think they want then slowly reveal your real self after trapping them in a relationship. Come into the situation as yourself and if you get rejected, just accept that the real you wasn't meant for that particular person.

[@ddanielsmc]

The positive women could even ask the men on a date. Empowering themselves, being assertive in progressing a romantic relationship. Ah, but alas, very few will. Don't worry about rejection, it happens.

[@RandomHotdog]

@@ddanielsmcmost women weren’t brought up to approach men. It happens , sure but it’s not something men should expect. Men need to realize that grown women generally aren’t going to be chasing grown men. It’s not realistic or safe in most cases.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

They don't have any emotional intelligence to grasp that concept

[@seabreeze4559]

@@ddanielsmc asking men on a date makes them feel no challenge

[@blyss.x]

​@@ddanielsmcwomen already take on 99% of the risk & labour that comes w a relationship. Asking y'all out too would be doing your entire job for you.

[@veebliss1266]

Be better people 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️😩 stop being so rude to women, judgmental , hostile , unfaithful.

[@Jamhael1]

Are women willing to repay in kind?

[@heidim7732]

Ah, yes. Transactional, "what's in it for me?" thinking. In a nutshell. ^^^

[@ryss335]

@@Jamhael1 women been kind throughout history tho, that's what they expect women to I mean Iook at the sacrifice of mothers, yet maIes aIways choose to hurt, ab use, cheat etc

[@expensivenoodle]

No don’t be better. Be best. 😁

[@blyss.x]

​@@Jamhael1 women have BEEN repaying. The stats say it all. It's time for y'all to reciprocate for once. If you have never experienced a woman being kind to you, be patient & find one who actually likes you. Remember. Men worry about being rejected. Women worry about being assaulted, raped, trafficked, & killed.

[@soniaoliveira8207]

If you have the money for a mens retreat you have money for therapy.

[@helenthorpe2862]

Bravo! 👏👏👏 💯

[@Em-tj6rh]

Say it louder for the people in the back!

[@skyebentley]

lol gaycation

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

Right

[@Charsy8]

Most of the time therapy isn't even helping them, because, guess what - they are not ready to unlearn a lot of what they've been thought all their lives (both at home and from society), and they're not willing to sacrifice their egos. All they do going to therapy is learn to weaponise "therapy speak", so they can play the victim better and manipulate women better. (can you tell I speak from experience and observations XD lol)

[@---tc8km]

It’s not a loneliness epidemic, it’s an ENTITLEMENT crisis

[@zerotolerance2026]

Thank you!!! They are having whole mantrums out here.

[@emilymwaki7375]

🔥😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@cheriremily9360]

Very much agree.

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

@@---tc8km Please educate me on my entitlement.

[@themusclemummymission]

​@nocturnalrecluse1216 you in here so pressed. Women are not responsible for educating you and you would just call facts lies always. Women aren't giving men free labour in the comments boo

[@raythunder8619]

When I was in the military, the number of men who were too comfortable treating women like second-class citizens was huge. The amount of work I did was never enough, even though I was outperforming everyone in my division. My actions and words were constantly challenged, while my male counterparts were always forgiven. My appearance was judged harshly for professionalism and attractiveness. I developed anxiety and PTSD because of it, and my body and mind were exhausted. I was so lonely while I was in because I spoke my mind and wasn't considered "attractive." People treated me like dirt, with only a few people who treated me like a human being. From crying in public spaces in my unit while people made fun of me or didn't care. Higher-ups insulting me in front of everyone. People approached me, saying I was a five at best or that if I tried a little harder, I could be considered pretty. I would be forced to work longer while my unit got shorter hours. If I complained about the unfairness, I was required to work longer. I lost promotions to people because I was too good to be let go from the division, while my male counterparts could be charged with assault or laziness and could advance. So yeah, I don't care about what those toxic men think. I was forced to be lonely and mistreated by them.

[@goodyk3431]

The military SUCKS for women, absolutely. I’m so sorry, it sounds like hell on earth for you. Like every ahole BS thing the tripods could ever say or do all concentrated in one place, like a toxic waste dump. I say put all the PAB’s on an island and let them figure it the hell out for a few centuries. It might not work even then. Stay safe, sister in arms, be well.

[@barbaramatthews4735]

I'm a woman veteran, too. I have PTSD from constant sexual harassment. Men can be so cruel. I won't say all men, but more than enough, made work conditions difficult. Because I am using my real name, I'm not comfortable going in detail publicly.

[@rebeccagallagher3306]

Im so sorry you had to go through this. I wish that it was better and that the military and many corporate environments were not focused this way. Perhaps one day they will learn how much we have to offer

[@Doingmybest700]

@@barbaramatthews4735they’ll sexually harass but also beg for your attention and want to date you at the same time. It’s toxic as hell

[@constancep7632]

They made their bed, they can lie in it 🤷‍♀️

[@TS-hz5jb]

ALONE!

[@teresam5199]

🎯

[@alexussk]

👏😂

[@UnexpectedSpanishInquisition]

@@TS-hz5jbWith “Palmela Handerson” 👋🏻

[@marys2406]

Dear men. If you're complaining about being lonely and not doing anything to solve the problem, it didn't happen.

[@evergreenforestwitch]

@marys2406 how I cackled just now 🤣

[@9darshana]

The "it didn't happen" part has me screaming 🤣 🤣🤣🤣

[@amazinggrace313]

I literally told a guy about a demonic experience I had as a child and he told me it didn’t happen lol. I mean I guess he was there but I wasn’t .. 🤷🏽‍♀️ he also laughed whilst dismissing my experience

[@ceruleanwonder]

Personally, I prefer it that way. They have no idea how to do anything about their loneliness and I highly doubt they’d attempt to solve the problem in a peaceful or productive way so they can stay complaining into the void. As long as women are safe and happy without them being violent towards us, let them whine until their lungs collapse.

[@Sugar_Fatale]

I just choked on my garlic bread reading this 🤣😂

[@tash936]

Same thing happened with hygiene- men couldn't do that, that's too girly so now they LooksMaxxx!!!! Which is super manly and awesome 😂😂😂 I can't with them

[@NeverYours-c5g]

I cringe so hard every time they mention it

[@ddanielsmc]

@@tash936 sadly, it seems to work. Who knew women also value physical attractiveness in men. I'm stunned. One thing I've noticed is that some women really don't like it when men are more attractive. They see it as competition. While I don't like the whole Looksmaxxing thing, I do think that it'll grow and guys are starting to focus a lot more on their image. In major cities in South Korea, men sometimes wear makeup. It'll only grow and come to the west.

[@youtubename7819]

@ddanielsmc you entirely missed the point of the comment.

[@ddanielsmc]

@@youtubename7819 I don't think I did. You mention 'hygiene' and this refers to cleanliness however, you then refer to Looksmaxxing. They're not the same thing. Looksmaxxing is beautification and as this is specific to men, having a different term for it seems reasonable.

[@ddanielsmc]

@@youtubename7819I don't think I did. You mention 'hygiene' this is cleanliness however, you then refer to Looksmaxxing. They're not the same thing. Looksmaxxing is beautification and specific to men so, it stands to reason that it's called something different to describe it.

[@jamiesullivan5587]

You are such a wise, young woman. I wish I had been as wise when I was younger! Keep on educating and enlightening people - and thank you for your insight.

[@TS-hz5jb]

I wish I would have known this too. I wasted too many of my precious years on men that were black holes.

[@helenthorpe2862]

Seconded!

[@OnMyGrindNowForever]

Access to more information. If this information was easily accessible during our time, we would have been this wise too

[@butterbeantv]

Can't all of the lonely men just go out for a beer together twice a week?

[@anthill1510]

That would solve it, if this would actually be about loneliness. If you listen to them more than five minutes you will find out it`s not. It`s about them not having easy access to womens bodies and emotional labor any more. They think they are entitled to that and that it`s an injustice that they don`t get that automatically any more.

[@athena1047]

​@@anthill1510I agree. Thank you

[@butterbeantv]

@@anthill1510 I was just being silly. I know all too well about men's entitlement to women's bodies, labor, and emotional support and I, personally, want nothing to do with them anymore. Went 4B in 2021 and life is better.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@anthill1510 they want a wife but don't wanna be a husband, sexual marxism

[@WynnWynn-gl3fk]

Join 4b And stop sleeping with the enemy.

[@AlisonKenzoland]

We are attracted to our natural predators

[@takeovercosmetics]

🎯🎯🎯

[@YouTubeUzername]

Why? If she found one of the few men that are emotionally intelligent she should stick with him. They are very rare but they do exist, I know a few.

[@WynnWynn-gl3fk]

@@KZbinUzername I meant other ladies.

[@teresamagnusson]

​​@@KZbinUzernameThat was a general comment and not a personal comment.

[@segamai]

THANK YOU. I'm a guy and I'm OVER this whiny self-serving bullsh*t. Guys will use the one woman that didn't take their emotions seriously (usually only one instance of this is needed btw) and then be like "Welp I tried once but it didn't go well so now I can clam up forever because all women think male emotions are laughable" uggghhhhh and then the whole movement is SO infuriating because I know the unfathomable amount of garbage women go through and then men dip their toe into those waters and can't even take that. And they are VERY clever because they will coopt therapyspeak and weaponize it to blame women for all their troubles while doing NOTHING to try to grow.

[@kelsiegerig5353]

Honestly, yes. And I definitely always care about others all the time. But the fact that most men do NOT even care about their own or each others mental health EVER is the most annoying thing. They whine constantly about how bad men have it, yet won't pick up the phone and make an appointment with a therapist. Or create supportive male groups. Or encourage each other to be better men. And they always, ALWAYS blame their mental health on women. That's what bothers me the most. Somehow everything under the sun is always a womens fault? I even had a male friend who talked about this often and he always said it was never women that shamed his emotions. It was always other men. But the whole not seeing a therapist thing leaves me with much confusion...

[@jinijinxer97]

FR they literally said to my face that psychology is fake & they would only consult a male psychiatrist while complimenting a female counsellor for treating VETS for free. Classic ole women ain't shit unless they treat men as the sole reason for existence.

[@ОксанаЧернохвостенко]

Have you read the bible? Everything is our fault

[@kelsiegerig5353]

@@ОксанаЧернохвостенко I have not. I am not religious.

[@seabreeze4559]

deflection and derailment

[@pancakerepairman]

what's confusing about not seeing a stranger you pay to pretend to give a shit about you as a substitute for having someone in your life who actually does? the way our culture pushes therapy as a cure-all is what i find confusing.

[@Xerilai]

And theyre soo negative all the time about simple things like personal hygiene or cooking, calling it girly. And yet when it comes to "loneliness" if they blame women, they want women to believe it's not about their toxic behaviours, when it's clearly a shot at sexual and emotional domination. Do they really think we'd want that dynamic? They need to face reality and stop making excuses for every little thing. We want men who aren't scared of emotions and are faithful partners (that includes on social media and corn)

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Amen

[@haileys5371]

It's survival of the fittest... Emotional fitness

[@formerlyknownas123]

"It's hard to make friends" Hard not impossible.

[@seabreeze4559]

it's only hard if they're unlikeable

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Yup! Males need to "get gud" with making friendships.

[@PBI45]

18 year old uni student here, had terrible social awkwardness/possibly anxiety my while life. Went to uni 3 months ago: want to know how I made friends with other guys? I said hi. And then followed up with some talk about the subject we shared. 18 years of feeling sick to my stomach at the thought of approaching guys my age especially, and all it took was for me to try. If I can do it, so can all these sigma alpha wolf males or whatever they identify as now.

[@_BlackPaladin]

Overall 🚹 def seem thin-skinned and hypersensitive for sure. Covering it up with all that toxic bs like Axe bodyspray 😩

[@takeovercosmetics]

😂😂😂

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Lmao yeah ngl

[@martibee8984]

Just as horrible to experience too.

[@Panbaneesha]

But they'll insist it's the women who are "too emotional". 😂

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@Panbaneesha fr I'm a man AMF call this childish logic out

[@tarablue4472]

I've read too many times "enjoy your cats" to GAF about the male loneliness epidemic. After encountering the vitriol over women in the manosphere as well as some personal experiences and observations I've turned away from men and went volcel. When you utter these words "enjoy your cats" you prove yourself to be worse company than cats. Someone who would say this to a stranger on the internet must be such a joy to be around....not. If I'm going to share my life and my personal space with someone it's not going to be someone spiteful and full of contempt, I don't need that. I enjoy my own company and don't need either cats or miserable men who want to make me miserable. Enjoy your loneliness guys.

[@lucylocket5262]

What about the epidemic of mostly female survivors of childhood SE? There is plenty of them in therapy, outpatient mental health clinics and psychiatric wards? What about them? The perpetrators of childhood SE are mostly male.

[@Xerilai]

Yes!!! x 100 I cannot understand how they think their self afflicted loneliness is more important than the fact that they constantly abuse children, they get an epidemic and survivors like us don't? What sick twisted logic is that?

[@sunkissedn71]

​@@Xerilai☝️This!

[@ryss335]

@@lucylocket5262 I've seen maIes repIying to other comment but never to facts Iike this one, seems Iike they onIy care about defending themseIves and appear as a "nice guy" rather than heIping their feIIow maIes

[@seabreeze4559]

@@Xerilai it's memed as Muh D

[@CE98]

@@ryss335their only defense is that .00001% of perpetrators are women so we shouldn’t say all men 🥺🥺

[@Calypso-22]

They also seem to have a major victim thing going on….

[@KossolaxtheForesworn]

I suppose many men were let down in childhood by them being raised to fit some gender norms, but insisting on living with said gender norms despite knowing them to be counter productive is just own fault at that point.

[@InternetNonsense]

It's as if this unwritten rule to be as unlikeable as possible and making other men too. It's sooo macho to be gross, intimidating, lazy, entitled and disrespectful. Seems to be born out of other men's insecurities and competitive need to humiliate and bring others down as opposed to more healthy outlet making himself better instead, asking for tips and pointers etc. (Applies to male-identified women negging other women too and lately the memo was to give up on extreme cases as well). Reminds me how mad the local men were at clean, hygienic vikings because they attracted all the ladies. Or calling boyband members that girls swoon over "gay" instead of trying to emulate that aura and style. Crabs in a misery-loves-company bucket. Crazy to expect eternal unconditional goo-goo eyes being this mean, absent and bitter in "return the energy" era. What cognitive dissonance do they have to not connect the dots that it's all consequence of their own actions? Act repulsive = others are repulsed. Don't be there for others = others won't be there for you.

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

Exactly, patriarchy promises them that if they toe the line they will be automatically rewarded with their own little kingdom to lord over. When it does not happen they blame women instead of the system that misled them

[@csherman47]

@@KossolaxtheForesworn A wise man would, if fortunate enough to find a woman who would bear his children, be fully engaged in teaching sons and daughters true humanity toward others. No gender roles, no rules about behaviors except that all actions should be based on love and consideration toward others. And if others cannot understand that, they are wrong, not you. That would be how a real man shows how he loves his children just as they are. Love and celebrate them. A few generations of that would change the world.

[@Xerilai]

And yet women have been strong enough to break gender norms and risk abuse at work, by family members who don't like it.

[@PBI45]

​@@csherman47I have hope that this will start now. The reality is that the ideal relationship is just split 50/50, assuming both parties are able bodied and of able mind. Literally just split the housework, child rearing etc etc in half, it's not that hard. Easier to plan stuff too. The way it's been done for years now is just a confusing mess "uh yeah you do dishes I go work you do laundry but I'll do it every other weeke-" yeah no just do it 50/50.

[@joanjett8344]

Well, I know of 70,000 men who bonded over activities. 🙄

[@RandomHotdog]

Damn I just got chills .sad but true

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Still terrifying every time I hear that story. I could definitely see their retreat being a cover for something more sinister

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

And that is one chat group. How many exist out there? That is why it is ALL men!

[@tunkytunky]

About the whole "men are leaders" thing. Some men clearly are but they are a super minority and in order for those men to lead, they require men to be followers. Whereas when it comes to being a mother... you have to be the leader of those kids. Then the follower men get confused that women don't treat them the same way they treat their leader men.

[@dragonfox2.058]

They also get confused that women don't treat them like kids

[@Egg_Apron]

Leadership means leading yourself. It's not about collecting followers; it's about following your own path and commitment to yourself. If you happen to collect followers, that is because you are providing something to others, but really, it's not necessary. Just lead yourself.

[@VeeKayGreenerGrass]

Women are natural leaders, that's why followership is emphasized for them (to make men feel useful). Men, on the other hand are not natural leaders, that's why leadership is emphasized for them. The so called make loneliness epidemic is a realization that what patriarchy promised was not real.

[@morganeoghmanann9792]

@@Egg_Apron Now if someone could just convince the Andrew Tates of this world of that........

[@RandomHotdog]

True! being a leader is also putting others first. Which I think is why many men suck at it.

[@teresamagnusson]

We should risk our lives to help men feel better?

[@Plutos_Child69]

Never

[@marys2406]

Why? Men unalive women and children everyday.

[@Sugar_Fatale]

I’d rather saw off my labia 😂

[@teresamagnusson]

Never is right.

[@RandomHotdog]

Nope

[@Tetradepodmelontea]

In terms of social reciprocity... Should 25-45 year old sub4 women care about men's loneliness, when men themselves do not care about theirs? Their safety? Their well-being? If they themselves do not *realistically* see low to mid attractive non-model people as possible love interest? Long term, everyone is 0 anyway. Like, we have millions cute 30 old Chinese women and yet men prefer to be lonely than to marry someone who can't give birth to 10+ children, even of they are realistically caht afford that many children from young girl anyway...

[@niax782]

Hm. Not sure where “Chinese women” fits in 🤔

[@TychoKingdom]

​@niax782 Because some woman in China are called "left over" women. Even when China has an excess of millions of men. They would rather be alone than marry a woman who is 30+ or otherwise "undesirable".

[@no.6377]

​@@niax782think OP's bringing up the topic of "leftover women" into the conversation. It is interesting that in China there are too few women thanks to an entire country's rampant misogyny effing around and finding out. But still, _women_ are labelled as leftover because they're over 30 and therefore considered less desirable. Like, women are ridiculously scarce and men still wanna act like they're the prize??? 😅😅 Some societies are simply reaping what they sow😊 (Or I could be reading this completely wrong😂)

[@martibee8984]

​@@niax782I assumed they're speaking about their surroundings, but I could be wrong.

[@idontknowyet5942]

Oddly specific but go off..

[@destroyraiden]

My nephew went explosive anger and verbal abusive on me cuz he had a bad day at work I was beginning to do the "nah uh!" stuff when I realized oh it's not me, its probably work related so I asked him if he was blowing up due to a shit day at work and if so he was inappropriate being this way with me he doesn't get to take it out on me cuz he had a bad day at work "boo hoo" I said deal with it he paused for a good minute in shock I wasn't going to just let him abuse me verbally cuz he couldn't' process his emotion then he short circuited back to abuse mode and confirmed he's an abuser already and will abuse his future gf or bf either way if I'm around I'll warn them he's an abuser yet they'll probably go "wtf!" run to him and they'll both be mad but for different reasons.

[@SamSpray-jg9hz]

On psychology today's website there's a really good database to find all types of therapists and or psychiatrists not saying he needs drugs. There's no shame in going to get therapy and in putting work into learning about psychology etc it improves mental and emotional resilience over time. I hope he can find a way to healing before he destroys himself and anyone else. He maybe should also take a break from work if he's that on edge and go on some kind of retreat where he can calm himself and center. Also maybe he should find a new job that isnt full of such demented toxic people that can do that to him. Is he always like this or only just recently?

[@teresam5199]

Be careful

[@seabreeze4559]

he's projecting onto you

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Go no contact with your nephew. He is only gonna get worse. He is too dangerous.

[@alenka213]

Exactly. I would also mention that if women complained about being lonely (especially women with children), their boyfriends or husbands would surely not be okay with them leaving their wife/mom/appliance duties to go so far away from home for days or weeks to do something like this. They would instead be laughed at or bullied by those same men, who probably were at least a little responsible for those women being isolated in the first place.

[@AlisonKenzoland]

Shout out to @ BurbandBougie Burbies in the house 💜

[@niax782]

Ayeeee 🙌🏽💃🏽

[@hevabmore]

🎉

[@That_BIack_Cat]

Shout out to you both! I love you, ladies!

[@tylergood3773]

❤❤❤

[@incisivecommenter5974]

Yaaasss!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@TheNinnyfee]

Sometimes men randomly share emotions and then feel rejected because the stranger thinks, "Hey, I don't even know you."

[@genevieveaniko6492]

I've had this happen to me. Just random dudes deciding to trauma dump on me and I don't even know them. What is that all about??

[@shani.ninety]

@@genevieveaniko6492 same, it’s so weird

[@seabreeze4559]

it's entitlement, energy vampirism

[@seabreeze4559]

@@genevieveaniko6492 they are harvesting your energy

[@seabreeze4559]

@@shani.ninety it's energy vampires

[@SilverScale.]

Here's my thing with this -- I hear the men, and it sucks, (for them and for women and everyone to deal with toxic masculinity), but the men who are legit working on this get more grace from me than the ones who are lonely and blame women for it when the women avoid them because these men are not safe or kind to women. They feel entitled to love and affection from women, and want to earn it from other men. Let's be real they're not blaming other men for this, but other men ALSO don't open up to these kinds of men either because they're reinforcing the brutality of patriarchy and not providing the mental-emotional space for that kind of openness. We're more lonely as a whole, but re: the MALE loneliness epidemic in particular, I feel like these are some of the biggest issues.

[@seabreeze4559]

women don't have to fix their problems like mummy

[@CE98]

Isn’t it fascinating we’re even discussing this when women and girls are human trafficked everyday?

[@kscott7657]

I love your freaking channel! 😂❤ I’m done with men and getting more in life accomplished.

[@astrohitter1791]

A lonely man = a woman at peace

[@thetruth9806]

lol inconsistency. You and the rest don't make any sense. Apparently lonely men are dangerous to women, but now it means a woman at peace? Which should I believe? You or them?

[@thetruth9806]

@@HeyYouThere0 The truth will set you free. Stay miserable then.

[@OneNiftyBoi]

@@thetruth9806 🤣🤣

[@CE98]

@@thetruth9806let me spell it out to you sweetheart, I realize it’s confusing to men who’ve never worried about their safety. A lonely man who has access to a woman, means the woman is in danger. A lonely man sitting idly in his apartment alone (and not on a whatsapp with 70,000 other men plotting to r word their sisters and mothers, note this- this means they ARE indeed dangerous) or on a boys retreat are not bothering a woman. Does that make sense? I can add some statistics if that would help.

[@mandersw8512]

They say they're not being complimented or hugged enough? If you're a woman and you hug or compliment a man, they automatically assume you want to have sex with them. Even though you're just trying to be nice. Then they get angry later because you "lead them on." I've seen it so many times from so many different men. They keep creating these no-win situations for everyone and then they cry about it. 🙄

[@jiminkaijinyoungnikkie9921]

Where are their, bros? I thought male friendships are wayyy better than female friendships that are full of drama and that women hate each other so much/s. Why are the menz lonely? Also remember when they paid 18k to get basically abused by other men in the name of masculinity? Or to become alpha males? 😂😂

[@Xerilai]

This comment needs more likes

[@genevieveaniko6492]

Andrew Tate pimped them hard. 😂😂

[@sunkissedn71]

😂🤣😅 Hahahaa they' bout to be even lonelier

[@jiminkaijinyoungnikkie9921]

@@sunkissedn71 oh well 🤷‍♀️

[@AgainstLife1000]

18k? Wait? When?

[@redgoddess]

At first glance I absolutely read that as men's retreat (from work? from relationships? from public?🤷🏽‍♀)offers safe spaces ( for women ) amid the male loneliness epidemic.

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Omg YES. They know that the farther away women are from men, the safer women are.

[@NightinGal89]

I'm a woman, been lonely all my life, nobody cared.

[@hbsupreme1499]

They care more then men since men arr trained to be cold

[@gabriellebragg7097]

I love being alone. It's my favorite 🥰

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Me too. Males laughed at me for being lonely. But I can laugh back at them!😂

[@serenajoy84]

​@@UnrealDreamer3598too bad women get unalived laughing at men on a regular basis

[@tesreso5448]

There was a study about people's fear during sex, came to basically this: Women: dying, being murdered Men: being laughed at -.- hmm, hmm ... Just saying

[@seabreeze4559]

do you have a title for that?

[@RandomHotdog]

Hey cool Weiss schnee!

[@anteprs7908]

what study pls ?

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Margaret Atwood, Handmaids Tale.

[@thetruth9806]

No wonder it's an irrational fear. Do you think the human race would continue if men were such idiots that they would unalive the mother of their children? You need help, specifically reason and statistics will do the job, not a therapist btw.

[@Michaeleism]

As women we have to face so much alone and on out own! We face aggression, pain and stress on all fronts and directions from our partners, other women and even our children! But you don't see us blubbering like a fool and whining about "rejection" and people making "fun" of us. They are so damn weak!

[@ChiagoziemEze-Johnpaul]

@@Michaeleism Women don't whine about rejection because they don't usually get rejected in the traditional sense

[@SamuraiShizuo]

@@ChiagoziemEze-Johnpaul They do all the time. Rejection is a universal human experience, men just whine about it the most.

[@JessiD-111]

If they are lonely they can spend time with each other. 🤷

[@Her844]

"Males problems are not our problems "☺️☺️

[@RaqueLauren]

Yeah this actually isn't cute at all, it's scary. Large groups of men validating each others, often very inaccurate and even toxic, feelings,emotions, and beliefs? We've already seen how this plays out in their podcasts and "safe spaces" online. Like is there professional oversight? Or just hoards of troubled m3n gathering? Very concerning.

[@ddanielsmc]

Erm...perhaps, it's time for you to reflect upon what you just said as you're posting a comment on a channel subject that's entitled 'I DGAF about men's mental health'. It's scary a large group of women are gathering here to condemn a group of men trying to support each other. Pretty sick really.

[@RandomHotdog]

@@ddanielsmcmen are literally gathering to try and take away women’s rights because of misogyny. Women gathering to talk about criticisms of men aren’t talking away men’s rights.

[@seabreeze4559]

@@ddanielsmc looks like a cult, they PAID for access

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Ignore the male troll. Us ladies need to circle the wagons and protect each other.

[@ddanielsmc]

@@UnrealDreamer3598 what a ridiculous thing to say. I do not like the manosphere and at times I feel this is happening over here. It's sad.

[@DaughterofDiogenes]

2:34 this right here. When I told my ex I wanted him to leave (due to years of every type of abuse) he agreed to it but then walked into the house and yelled at our daughter to do her homework. My daughter is ND and needed a lot of support due to severe anxiety. So he yelled at her to get started which already set her off, then while she was struggling he told her that mom doesn’t want me here anymore so I’m moving out (we had not at all discussed saying anything to the kids yet as we had just talked about it). When I walked in the door I heard him yelling at her, “now stop crying and do your find homework”. I ran in to intervene as I always did and immediately hug her and ask her what’s happened and she tells me dad says you are making him leave. She just sobbing about her family being broken up and this man is screaming at her to stop crying and do her homework. She was 10.

[@shoroqahmed2854]

Thank god he's an ex now . And thank you for being strong and brave enough to leave despite him trying to manipulate you using your DAUGHTER .

[@AgainstLife1000]

That is them. Abusive

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Get a restraining order. Invest in self defense tools.

[@IsThisRealLif]

Yeah he did it on purpose. There's no way he did that thinking that she WOULDN'T cry. it was a reason to blow up, a reason to make everyone upset, and a fake reason to yell at everyone, as well as throw mom under the bus, cause he wants to make mom look like a villain, even at the expense of the mental well being of a child. his own child at that! Clearly the villain

[@SuburbanoidMisfit111]

That's what they do. My sperm donor would get mad and yell at me for playing in the bathroom. Typical little kid stuff.

[@HoneyBadger80886]

Abused and Raped and STILL Persued by her attacker !!?? Stop That . EJCarroll... brave. Pellicot ...brave. ❤

[@AlisonKenzoland]

Dudacity

[@teresamagnusson]

Ahahahahaha!!! Dudacity. I love it.

[@xxxx-dn7oy]

🤣🤣🤣

[@genevieveaniko6492]

Adding this to my lexicon

[@AlisonKenzoland]

@@genevieveaniko6492 with my compliments 😚

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

Lol! Males who struggle with loneliness are duds, not dudes.

[@Ratu_Adil.]

4B! 4B! 4B! 4B!

[@butterbeantv]

4B!

[@UnrealDreamer3598]

🐝🐝🐝🐝 4B forever. Long live the queendom!👑

[@grimdolo918]

As a guy, I don't even understand this. When I moved to a new town for a better job it was lonely at first. So I joined a drawing club. After being a regular there for a couple of months I started making connections with and meeting new people. From there I joined a movie club and a group that does volunteer work. I've been lucky enough to meet some very cool people. You'll have wins and losses. At first, there will be days when you wonder why you're bothering. But it's a numbers game. You stay positive and keep at it. This bunch of idiots to pay for a retreat to what? Validate their loneliness? Do they offer seminars on how to make friends maybe? I feel like this is one of those issues where my fellow men would rather complain about an issue than actually fix it.

[@zuzupeng]

Had a conversation with a male that had a vulnerable moment. The comment I received is “my kids are the only reason I’m living right now”….myself being a mother…was like “is that not a good reason to have?” …now it hit me, yes we should be living for ourselves but….like dude, go find a hobby???

[@evergreenforestwitch]

Yes 💯 - every single word of this.

[@AlisonKenzoland]

👏👏👍

[@kris_ty685]

Yea I work in construction and there are some real weak men in that industry. In fact, the more blue collar you go I believe, the more psychologically immature the demographic. It did tear me up because I've lost my job in the past due to the gossiping/ slander. But I can see now, I can't keep letting that bs get to me

[@TheNinnyfee]

If you poop the nest and disrespect it, you fall out of it. There are so many lonely women out there, in relationships or not. They never get a retreat, they are just told to keep working. While being threatened by the men they take care of. Men objectify women and then find out it wasn't a good idea...

[@kikijewell2967]

Men: "I don't know anyone willing to put the work into friendship." Also men: "I'm not willing to put the work into friendship."🤷🤦🙄

[@PLoveBExclusives]

Can't make this ish up 😂