NHL Stars Who Failed As Coaches

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Fun fact: I really had to re-edit this because Rod Brind’Amour working out was apparently copyrighted 😂😂

[@TheManny717]

BOOOOO!!!!!! Copyright over a workout. What a joke. Also, I expect Wayne Gretzky to be on the list - editing if I see it. EDIT: I am not disappointed.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

@@TheManny717 XD. I understood ya bud haha! Thanks for watching!

[@samwilley8748]

Brind’Amour just doesn’t want people to see he’s working out for all the golfing he’s doing

[@MrNWA4Life]

Coach Rod The Bod.

[@dogwithheadphones]

Ha! That’s funny!

[@thinkingjack]

Gretzky was a horrendous coach. I worked for the coyotes during his tenure. The only cool thing about his coaching tenure was him letting some of us employees take home free sticks. And he didn’t quit on his site btw. He didn’t post that till a day after. He quit on the first day of training camp that season when all the players were skating around warming up and word got out “where the Fuck is gretz?” Finally he was spotted….at a diamondbacks game across town wearing shades and a baseball cap pulled low hiding. The man signed himself to an 8 million a year contract. And bailed on the team because he was a garbage ass coach

[@Jay9999]

Hockey in the desert will never work. That's the problem today as well.

[@jewellthief4007]

​@@Jay9999literally the Dallas Stars is the biggest debunker of this.

[@highgogoat]

@@Jay9999 matthews' existence disproves this

[@heyher_the_odd]

Watching Roy play in CO and then coach here was always amusing. He is such a character and his coming to CO way back when is part of how I got interested in and grew to love hockey.

[@Awolfx]

7:38 from an Avs fan Roy's first season as our coach was so much fun, but his coaching style and the brand of hockey he wanted the Avs to play was never built to last in a league with speed and offense becoming main staples in it's DNA. But I should still be thankful, if it wasn't for him resigning 2 weeks before the 16-17 NHL season beginning the Avs never would have hired Jared Bednar who's 1 Win away from Winning the Stanley Cup with the Avs.

[@stevenbauer4799]

bednar had a 17 win 41 pt. season after taking over for roy. it was only after av's cashed in on the high picks thanks to that and duchene trade did bednar become a 'great' coach. that plus a couple of second rd. collapses.

[@theretronick3380]

@@stevenbauer4799 All I heard was, "Bednar's coaching turned a team around from total crap to consistent playoff contenders to Stanley Cup champions in only a few years. "

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@theretronick3380 yeah and all it took was a couple of playoff failures to do it. just like with cooper.

[@theretronick3380]

@@stevenbauer4799 And now he can add Stanley to his Kelly and Calder cups. And took down the 2x defending champs to do it.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@theretronick3380 glad tb went down. now see how bednar/av's do not hungry and with teams ready for them. btw whose fault was it underdog stars got av's to gm. seven and beat them in ot in the bubble? maybe sakic is to blame for not upgrading goal? and whose fault is it that av's slapped vgk aound for two games including 8-1 then just folded up and lost four straight games and the series? maybe another kadri suspension is to blame for that one? cooper also had his cbj moment.

[@mattdowning1035]

Love these vids, appreciate the effort and amount of research you put in

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks sm Matt!! I appreciate your support!!

[@mattdowning1035]

@@idontgivetkachuk keep it up

[@kahnmashin]

You mentionned Roy, I was expecting a whole segment about Mario Tremblay; while he made the habs reach the playoffs, he would got into war with his own players, with Roy, Turgeon and Brashear quickly leaving...

[@kadanv8974]

Sick video. Very underrated channel. Keep up the grind 🔥🔥🔥

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks sm Kadan!! I appreciate the support!

[@silentnyrf3161]

Fun fact: if your down by 3 pulling the goalie with 10 minutes left is the mathematically the best time to pull the goalie

[@mattblom3990]

I wonder what Gretzky could have done on a better team. My family had season tickets for Vancouver at the time and I got to see a lot of games vs. Phoenix and Gretzky was one of the most animated coaches I could remember. Constantly moving, jumping, yelling.

[@auckland18]

Tough to say but keep in mind the Coyotes missed the playoffs every year he coached them and when Dave Tippet took over, they went 50-25 with 7 OTL and made the playoffs the first three years with him - including a Conference Final appearance. A lot of players complained that under Gretzky, they were constantly changing systems.

[@dogwithheadphones]

I’m super mad about the whole Bruce Cassidy being acquired by Vegas as a Bruins fan. He got fired for low success rates in the Stanley Cup and while I understand that I still think that he was a good coach. He just needed to train our players to do better in playoffs, specifically G7s. But unfortunately he got canned. I also think that we got the short end of the stick with the whole Rick Nash Deal back in 2018. Rick Nash was a really good player and then we lost him the next season. And guess who made it to the Stanley cup finals that year when he retired? Boston. Who knows? Maybe we could’ve stood a better chance in that finals if we had still had him. I think that Cassidy wasn’t offered a complete chance to prove what he could do.

[@nadaduo1765]

patrick roy "are you kidding me" 😂

[@idontgivetkachuk]

😂😂😂

[@frankhuber9912]

Scotty Bowman once said "There’s no secret. You gotta have the horses."

[@rileykazama3145]

Patrick Roy as the golden knights or the blue jackets coach would be insane if it happens

[@tracejohnson5519]

I think it would be hilarious if Roy came to coach the Detroit Red Wings.

[@richrealdeal6606]

Rick Bowness carried Dallas to the final, good times. Great video Paul

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks Rich!!

[@MrNWA4Life]

I was hoping he'd win a Cup.

[@blueshky]

You said "NHL stars" but I don't see Craig Berube. I joke, I joke.

[@tracejohnson5519]

😆

[@Aytrex87]

All I needed to hear was hothead and I knew you were talking about Patrick Roy haha

[@idontgivetkachuk]

😂😂

[@WarioSaysSo]

Regardless of sport, hockey, basketball, football, soccer, boxing etc-etc, there are a lot of great players/athletes that had great careers playing the game itself, but proven afterwards not up to par as coaches/trainers and the reasons for that could be many, but the more obvious are related to the actual skill itself. They came more or less naturally to them, and with time practice of the art they became stars in there respective sport. That don't always equal to necessarily have the ability to understand what certain players/athletes need and what combinations to there gameplan works best. Often major stars never really understood the game outside of themselves and because of that, they worked on self-relience and reliance to compatile teammates, but not much further. Most of the greatest coaches we have seen in various sports did not came themselves from a "Hall of Fame" career and more related to a mediocre one or not so impressive. A lot of that reason put those individuals into a different position where they discovers about themselves that while they do not themselves did not have that extra in them to sucseed further as player in the game, they discover new aspects and continue with that to develop higher understanding of the actual game/sport and how that knowledge can be treansfered to practical reality - They had to learn and hone their skills in a new and different way then before. And with that, comes ways of teaching/instructing those skills.

[@Chumbucket77]

I mean milbury was a player and a coach but you already have two videos (probably my favorite vids btw) on him 😂

[@idontgivetkachuk]

😂😂 I love clowning on Milbury

[@2011Oly]

As much as I hate him, Mac-T did take the 8th seeded Oilers to the Stanley Cup Finals and losing in 7 games.

[@kevinwickberg8978]

Always a good day when idontgiveatkachuk uploads

[@idontgivetkachuk]

❤❤❤

[@gamemisconduct6164]

Surprised you didn't mention the Adam Oates disaster in Washington.

[@hickettsisepic989]

The Roy bit reminded me how crazy it is that Sakic is a good GM lol, remember like 4 or 5 years ago when everyone wanted him fired?

[@kj6446]

the worst part of Gretzky's tenure as a head coach was that every time the Oilers had a number retirement ceremony, it always had to be during a Coyotes game...

[@1bert719]

Fun coaches fact, Bruce Boudreau (much maligned at times) is the only NHL head coach to have appeared in the movie slap shot. 😋

[@idontgivetkachuk]

BBQ Bruce the 🐐

[@TheProJoe]

yeah i remember hearing rumors that roy was might be gm of the habs after bergevin was fired

[@vollhockeypucks2851]

Fantastic Documentary!

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks bud!

[@STONE69_]

My pick to add to these would be Leafs John Brophry, he instructed his defensemen to wack the puck off the boards a a way to get it out of your zone, instead of passing the puck. Teams caught on to this and it turned out to be a disaster of a Season.

[@futuresequence.]

Sounds like my house league coach.

[@STONE69_]

@@futuresequence. lmao Exactly.

[@loganrufus1316]

Rick Bowness actually steeped down to "allow the organization the opportunity to pursue a different direction at the head coaching position."

[@Jackie_Shriek]

I think another candidate for the list could be butch goring, but tbh the team he coached wasn't the best either

[@kapurrizov]

i love your work :)

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thank you so much!!

[@m_03084]

I guess coaching wasn't Gretzky's forte. This is the first ever video I've watched hearing Gretzky's name in the infamy column 😂. Best player ever nevertheless. Gretzky's replacement Tippett is quite interesting though. Tippett was very succesful with that magical cenference final run, where he DID in fact win a Jack Adams, but afterwards things fell apart for him in Arizona and Edmonton (missing out of the playoffs in 5 straight seasons with the Yotes). He was decent for the first half of the first season with Edmonton, but still couldn't get past the 1st round with McDavid on the team :/ He was also known for throwing Koskinen under the bus and wouldn't credit him enough when he was playing well.

[@creepiusexplodicus8320]

Didnt knew gretzky coached the Phoenix Coyotes

[@MrNWA4Life]

Yep and man did they suck.

[@DirkStarlight]

Holmgren and Clarke are the problem in Philly... Failing their way upward to higher positions.

[@zeroher0876]

My Bruins are the biggest Morons firing Cassidy. Gonna be a tough year next year for them boys.

[@auckland18]

Not a Bruin fan but that one still has me scratching my head. Huge mistake.

[@stevensaczawa183]

Holmgren played a big part in destroying the Hartford Whalers as HC and GM and you didn’t even mention that. He was awful.

[@stevenbauer4799]

it's that way in all sports. great players just don't make great coaches. gretz, magic, ted williams, van brocklin, bart starr, patrick roy. things come easy to them thru natural talent. or they don't have the tempermant for the job-to put up with mistakes that they would never make by lesser players. the best coaches are the bench warmers/back-ups/bottom line guys and guys who have to fight to earn their spot on a team doing whatever it takes to make it. they see things from a different perspective and it gives them an astuteness to be coach/manager. most of those same greats fail as gm's as well. sakic/yzerman seem to be exceptions. and boom boom geffrion coached the expansion atlanta flames and had mixed results as nhl coach. and does anyone remember the disasterous phil esposito era as ranger gm and coach? lost in first round both years as coach never finishing higher then third place in patrick division. and as gm i believe he once traded his first round pick to nords for their coach, michel bergeron. espo was called trader phil for a reason. he once made more trades in a three year span then the van. canucks did in all of the '80's. he made mike milbury look sane.

[@fuspuz8540]

Knew Patrick Roy would be on here.

[@clearcreek69]

Reggie Dunlop?

[@xerxesfilms]

as a lifelong avs fan it wasnt roy that failed it was duchene that was dragging the team down

[@CS11_Footy]

A couple of players have also become good managers/owners for their teams

[@thinkingjack]

Theo Fleury called Rick bowness one of the biggest cowards behind a bench he’s ever met. Nothing changed with him

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

I thought Roy was a solid coach

[@IceRanger41]

“Never made it past 6th” my brother in Christ, there are only 6 teams. How did you manage to never make it out of last place?

[@Lukedolan33]

Surprised Pierre Mcguire didn’t make it in this video

[@jray6024]

Nice

[@raymondclouston6255]

Gretzky coached the Coyotes…enough said

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Well to be fair immediately after he left Dave Tippet of all ppl coached em to 3 straight playoff appearances so.

[@raymondclouston6255]

@@idontgivetkachuk yeah…Tippet is a coach that was for that team..and he’s a really good coach in general…he won’t be flashy, he might bore you to death…but he wins

[@Jacksonp43]

Looks good

[@alexscioscia884]

Roy now the islanders head coach.should be fun

[@robloxwithacetheavenger4908]

Also, the Panthers have Paul Maurice

[@owenposer6720]

Man goodfellow must’ve been a really good fellow

[@BiG_JJ227]

You’re most popular vid has 420K. But honestly, when you’re good at anything, it’s hard to explain or coach people imo.

[@justinganz1173]

No surprise if Toc and Gretz gambled

[@nonohockey]

At 10:14 lol

[@thefearlessbros]

Now I know where Kucherov got the "are you kiddin' me" from.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

@@thefearlessbros 😭😭😭😭😭

[@shanewilson8728]

Wayne Gretzky wasn't a good coach because he was to of a nice of a guy. Some of the most successful coaches in the NHL, like Scotty Bowman, Al Arbor we're one of the most hated coaches by the own hockey players who they were coached by. When the time comes when Scotty Bowman passes away, any of the hockey players that Scotty Bowman coached that show up at his funeral will likely go there to spit his coffin.

[@MrNWA4Life]

Ha. I hear the only time his players loved him were the day they got their Stanley Cup rings.

[@auckland18]

@@MrNWA4Life True. They respected Bowman but they didn't like him except for that day.

[@mr198221]

This may be true in all sports. Magic Johnson comes to mind....

[@20thCenturyManTrad]

I wouldn't pin the 50-51 Hawks on Goodfellow, they only had Harry Lumley, Bill Gadsby, Doug Bentley, and Bill Mosienko. They didn't have a lot of good players in their top 4 on defense or in the top 9. The team wasn't great, the men I mentioned were great players, Jack Stewart was past his prime, he was the only other great player for the Hawks that year. I agree he didn't match the 43 victory, but he wasn't a bad coach as far as I'm concerned.

[@saltywingsandavsfan]

I thought Oates would make the list

[@Alexandros.Mograine]

Its funny because usually good coaches or tv analysts didnt have amazing success in the league.

[@vsocarras27]

Avs won the Cup last night

[@richdepuy1754]

No mention of Bryan Trottier?

[@fringeminority3224]

I love how people blame coaches for shitty teams that suck. There's only so much a coach can do. These are professional ice hockey players. I'm pretty sure they can play the game without a coach. I use a perfect example of Mike Babcock. Won three Stanley Cups with the Detroit Red Wings an Olympic gold medal and so on and so on. Got hired as the Maple Leafs coach and they choked miserably. Just like Toronto again this year probably going to fire their coach and keep the same shity team that's going to get knocked out in the first round. Mind-blowing

[@wesmccauley5622]

Dang u forgot dragon he didn’t pan out

[@jannlewandowski5540]

Flyers Coaches that I recall were Billy Barber and Paul Holmgren. They were GREAT players, but BAD Coaches!

[@keithball6480]

Just to add about Bill Barber. A buddy of mine played junior hockey Barber and Larry Robinson with Kitchener. When asked he said Robinson was a great guy, and teammate. Barber aloof, self centred, just an asshole.

[@jannlewandowski5540]

One of the "better coaches" that the Flyers actually hated was Mike Keenan. They said he was mean, and like a drill sergeant! Even Bobby Clarke didn't like him toward the end.

[@hahaheija]

Unfortunately those real hero’s in the 30-40s were busy…

[@RoyalMela]

Great players usually don't make great coaches. Most of the best coaches are career minor leaguers or guys who quit after juniors.

[@keithball6480]

I don't know if Gretzky was poor coach. It was crazy salary and gambling accusations that were his downfall. Patrick Roy was owner, GM, and coach with his Quebec junior league club. He was loved controlling everything including "children". He couldn't do that in the NHL

[@MrNWA4Life]

Not really fair to call Bowness one of the worst coaches ever. He had bad luck coaching some of the shittiest teams in history. O-Ottawa, Phoenix, the Islanders.

[@Southboundpachyderm]

I love Roy but I don’t think he’s got the head to be a coach. He’s too fired up all the time. It clouds his ability to make good Decisions. Always been that way with him.

[@anonymous-so1wb]

i mean, you weren't far off roy is back, but unfortunately with the islanders

[@hughjass1044]

Proves once again that doing and teaching... or in this case, playing and coaching.... are two distinctly different skill sets and being good at one in no way ensures you'll be good at the other.

[@mistertaz94]

How on Earth is Hextall not here?

[@TheJimmyStDenisShow]

Someone gonna fail next

[@timothypietrzak5684]

Gretzky's manager was also the GM.. Paul coffee, hid buddy collected a few million as a power play coach.. that never did anything.. Wayne also had an over the hill Bret hall sign for a bunch of cash.. also drafted a high school Blake wheeler that never played for team.. they were just awful.. i'm going to stop now

[@arnaudfontaine7882]

maurice richard couldve made that list

[@NPIntended]

buhhh

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Buhhhhh. I miss u buh! See you tomorrow!

[@woody72691]

Even after all this time the Arizona Coyotes are still a dumpster fire. I seriously wish they would move to like Houston or anywhere else that deserves a hockey team

[@Jakeystar]

Bowness just got signed by Winnipeg.

[@ThatCelesteFan]

cole

[@politicalbandwagon4989]

Tbf who did Gretzky have to work with on that team?

[@pook21M]

love being early

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Thanks for watching!!

[@jedooley]

Rick Bowness has coached more games behind the bench than any other coach in NHL history as a head or assistant.

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Yeah!! It’s wild!!

[@jesterboykins2899]

Well shit, he tried to coach the Fn Coyotes…. I mean, what did he expect? Cinderella story?

[@idontgivetkachuk]

Well to be fair immediately after he left Dave Tippet of all ppl coached em to 3 straight playoff appearances so.

[@shanestanton8]

Do Gretzky and Holmgren belong on this list? Their regular season winning percentages don’t appear to suggest that their teams were playing bad hockey. Gretzky’s winning percentage is 0.436, and Holmgren’s is 0.432 (assuming every two ties combine for one win).

[@allisonbottoni2591]

phill housely?

[@philminkeesickquayash8988]

Gretzky failed as a coach because you can't coach Greatness to players who aren't Great... Lol

[@brandon4812]

Does anyone realize that hockey when the so called great one was playing wasn’t hockey like it is today, the only reason he has so many points is because goalies back then really sucked and just stood there and would make a funny flip when the puck would pass them going into the net junk goalies mean more goals just a hint people also the gear was half the size it is today and when the puck hit them oh it hurt so they more less would jump out of the way

[@andyquinn7312]

Gretzky failed as a coach and a human being , great hockey player but that’s it .

[@PZYK0PATH]

Hi

[@VGCAlex]

Patrick Roy is a good coach bud

[@Musiclover23324]

Holmgren fails, gets promoted

[@quiricomazarin476]

Picasso pup & crappy coach .... Great players make terrible coaches on average....gumshoe players make the best coaches...dirk Irvin Sr & Toe Blake are the exceptions.

[@kevinburgwin6857]

Doug weight

[@larrylittlewolfe8584]

Patricia roy

[@Spetsnazty]

The coaches only know how to place blame or take blame. How the players play, that’s on them and the gm.

[@wynonasbigbrownbeaver6757]

Any chance Gretzky coaches again?

[@gmod8033]

Yes i think

[@idontgivetkachuk]

He seems to love working at TNT! So idk actually rn haha

[@brandon4812]

Put Wayne against any goalie today they will take his points away

[@AlmostReady504]

When you think NHL hockey you think Phoenix Arizona...... 2,3, 4.....nnnnnot !!

[@idontgivetkachuk]

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