If Apple made an SFF case - McPrue's Apollo S 4.0!

[@MachinesMore]

I got my "spaces" mixed up. The one I tested is what they called Space Gray and that will no longer be made. Going forward the silver or space black will be available. Thanks to @Shift204 for the help clarifying.

[@datdudeinred]

I love how this channel is organized. ❤No bs straight up videos. & also obscure product showcases. Never change your video layout.

[@sleeevin]

It’s seriously the best. Watch every video he drops.

[@j_crust4582]

"What even is a mcprue?" Optimum tech lmao

[@mjr230]

Weird Cheese flex but I'm here for it

[@carlover4239]

This has to be the absolute best looking SFF case, bar none.

[@chrisrussellca]

What is Phanteks waiting for?!?! An invitation to make a tower cooler with two T-30s? 😂

[@MachinesMore]

Haha they just need to make a special priced two pack of T30s, and we can throw in whatever Thermalright heatsink that fits. The fact that this air cooler combo is working this well at a moderate RPM with the 9900X is mind boggling.

[@ivan.hrgovic]

@@MachinesMore try it on artic 36 please!

[@chrisrussellca]

@@MachinesMore I just reviewed the D12L in the M2 and I wish the T-30s fit. I think in the sea of liquid coolers, it’s nice to see so many budget air coolers stepping up and improving. Notably I wasn’t a big fan of air cooling but the M2 turned me into a small fan.

[@ivan.hrgovic]

@@chrisrussellca what do you think about T30s on artic freezer 36?

[@chrisrussellca]

@ They’re pretty good. It really depends on the case you’re using. Quite a tight fit in the M2, but it works, and you’ll have a quite dense system. You can get similar performance with other fans, but you have the luxury of running lower RPMs with the T-30s.

[@oscarcharliezulu]

Its expensive but the build quality is beautiful.

[@j1nftw1n]

Beautiful case but Holy crap that price is eye watering 🤣🤣🤣

[@MachinesMore]

Yeah, it's up there!

[@mohamedahnaf7349]

Thats alot of money for not alot of case 🥲. Ncase m2 feels like a much better deal by a mile

[@MachinesMore]

My thoughts exactly. The last mile of quality is exponentially more expensive.

[@AnonymousPerson-v4o]

I wouldn’t reward W360 at all. M2 is a stolen case and a year long iteration of the M1Evo. It’s amazing how two SFF KZbinrs are so cozy with that unethical person.

[@tinybit780]

Silver looks best for this style IMO

[@RockBassist2112]

Is it possible to unscrew the top and bottom panels to remove them and switch them if you wanted it to be a traditional setup rather than an inverted one?

[@aaaa7842]

Oh my god I just found Your channel recently and I love the way everything is presented and professional but also fun way! Hope this channel gets tons of followers! Interesting case, especially for mac fans. But why are the front usb ports not indicated which one is the faster and which one is the slower port? 😂 Also wouldn't it work with 2 smaller fans on the front as intake, 1 blowing into the cpu cooler and one blowing into the gpu? Or just 1 blowing into the cpu cooler and let the gpu suck air from the top?

[@str-23.1]

Are your fans inverted? The logo side of the fan is configured as intake for your build. Isn't that normally exhaust?? Am I going crazy?

[@MachinesMore]

They're reverse orientation fans. So the "frame" side is the intake side.

[@shift204]

The Space Gray is discontinued. Deep Space Black is the replacement. There was only a very limited run of the S 4.0 Space Gray! Amazing case, clearly aiming for the high end of the market!

[@MachinesMore]

This, thanks for the note. I got my "spaces" mixed up. The one I tested is what they called Space Gray and that will no longer be made. Going forward the silver or space black will be available.

[@shusui9665]

any case which have same dimensions but not as expensive?

[@ajmalsarwar6272]

Ncase M2 is similar. You can even do an inverted build in it

[@shusui9665]

​@@ajmalsarwar6272thx. yes i know the m2 but want to ise a u12a so there is no alternative i think. saw the ac168 but its not confirmed from ncase.

[@tinybit780]

Isn't it better to have the airflow in the other direction, also because the GPU exhausts down the left side of your build? I imagine you'd be blowing hot air into the CPU heatsink?

[@MachinesMore]

You would be, however I mentioned the following considerations: 1) some users would prefer the hot air not exhaust out the front of the case directed at them and 2) the front intake does mitigate the penalty. If this were an FE card I would not recommend the airflow like that. The ventilation is good enough in the case that you can prioritize practicality over the smaller performance penalty.

[@Stelerris]

how many times does the formd t1 have to dominate before people realize its the end all be all mini itx case

[@ajmalsarwar6272]

Would this new Thermalright cooler fit on the Asus Strix B650i?

[@Alex-7-1-1]

Considering cooler clearance, how does it stack against the Louque R1?

[@MachinesMore]

The front vented panel is a big deal. The Louqe does have more cooler clearance but my take is if you can cool a 9900X with this performance this good, I would rather take the mATX compatibility than be able to fit a D15. Of course, Apollo S is priced much steeper than the R1.

[@Alex-7-1-1]

@@MachinesMore Thanks!

[@CokefishR]

T30s are 120mm um did you at least go for some 140s?

[@MachinesMore]

For the cooler fans? 140 won't fit in the case with this heatsink

[@ttocs209]

So from what I’m hearing, a rog strix 4090 won’t fit?

[@MachinesMore]

Indeed, too long.

[@Accuaro]

May I ask what length of GPU this case can fit? edit: 345mm

[@HS-tj2qp]

Have you considered watching the video which contains this information in the first 6 minutes?

[@Accuaro]

@@HS-tj2qp I watched it at 1.75x speed as it's pretty much a 20min video. Lowkey kinda focused on how nice the case was that the supported length blipped by too fast, I did find it though with the link in the description which is 345mm for anyone else wondering.

[@Slyfoxes05]

If you tinker, try with an FE variant of the card please 😊

[@MachinesMore]

Going to try that. The airflow being reversed will likely be safer given the heavy flow-through.

[@rob90230]

What are the "cons" of not having access to the PSU'a On/Off switch? Does the Micorsoft "Shut Down" software switch turn the PSU off? I'm hoping the only "con" is not being able to turn the PSU off during maintenance. I shut down my current laptop every evening.

[@MachinesMore]

You can actually access it if you take the bottom mesh off and leave it off. Otherwise, you could just unplug it would be the next easiest solution.

[@Kliq-n2s]

When I saw that price from their site .. stopped right there... nope!!!

[@yensteel]

"It couldn't be that high.. I've seen expensive cases befo- holy s-"

[@arturb5152]

I prefer The ncase M2 because of Micro ATX compatibility

[@carlover4239]

S 4.0 also has Micro ATX compatibility (3.0 does not)

[@reginaldbowls7180]

Apple makes the smallest SFF cases already lol

[@MachinesMore]

Yeah, new mini seems pretty interesting. Might have to do a quick review since, SFF. 🤔

[@AndrewMartinNZ]

That intro was a little,... cheesy. ;)

[@MachinesMore]

I will take that as a compliment 😆

[@Skynet_11]

Yep that price in bonkers. But lovely case. Maybe 250 , and inverted assembly don’t agree too much with me. But apparently is necessary for this a case.

[@carlover4239]

It's small scale CNC. It will never be $250.

[@tinybit780]

inverted is nice for GPU temps, even if you don't use additional top intake fans.

[@intermarer9145]

"USD 449$", yeah, I'm gonna have to pass on that.

[@bobbymoss6160]

Dust cleaning will be a nightmare...

[@MachinesMore]

Yes, nothing resembling dust management here 😐

[@BoDoesStuff]

@@MachinesMore Been running one for a year, it's not that bad.

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

demented price on these

[@BoDoesStuff]

How? Small run CNC jobs aren't cheap and these aren't basic mills. Expensive? yes, but not demented.

[@carlover4239]

Just because it's not cheap doesn't mean it's "demented" or not worth it. Not everything is built for you.

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

@@carlover4239 nah it's demented

[@beowulf_of_wall_st]

@@BoDoesStuff so get one and be happy, i'm sure when you tell people you spent this kind of money on a computer case they will be impressed

[@carlover4239]

@@beowulf_of_wall_st It’s okay, just say you’re broke.

[@Teklien]

Well after see this; I think I'll stick to my M2 Grater.

[@mikeyhope7577]

Just as overpriced as Apple as well.

[@carlover4239]

In what world are you going to small batch CNC this for any cheaper?

[@teethashaquan5395]

Damn that is an ugly case

[@r4dius]

Prices are getting ridiculous, why the hell would you recommend an itx case for $449

[@MachinesMore]

Diminishing returns at work here. For most folks my opinion is the M2 will be enough and does more, I would recommend the McPrue if and only if someone is after the utmost tolerances.

[@carlover4239]

Because it's gorgeous and not everything needs to fit your budget.

[@chrisrussellca]

First? Naw not that lucky

[@datdudeinred]

@@chrisrussellca well technically i was first but i think all those first comments are useless 🤣

[@chrisrussellca]

@ for sure, I’m never this early on videos so I thought, hey! Maybe I’m actually first. No one’s ever fighting for first on my videos, M&M here is doing something right.

[@craigjoe8691]

For that size you should be able to fit 3 280mm radiators with fans. Garbage layout and interior design.

[@Kokinkun]

Given that it's biased towards aesthetics, it does the job well enough. Trying to do a triple rad setup in a case like this seems pointless and misses the point of the case.

[@carlover4239]

You clearly don't understand SFF.

[@craigjoe8691]

@carlover4239 fuck you talking about? I got 3 rads in the formdT1, YOU clearly don't understand SFF and fitting the most components into the smallest space possible.

[@craigjoe8691]

@@carlover4239 tf you talking about? I got 3 rads in the formdT1, YOU clearly don't understand SFF and fitting the most components into the smallest space possible.

[@carlover4239]

@@craigjoe8691 SFF is more than just maximizing radiators lmao. Congrats on liking your own comment, btw.