"If I Were You" w/Jake and Amir and special guest Bo Burnham - Bro Job

Question from Episode 222 of "If I Were You" with special guest Bo Burnham! Jake and Amir and Bo discuss friendship.
You can listen to the entire episode here: headgum.com/ifi... with new episodes every Monday!

[@swayswaybrodie]

Bo is so intelligent and open in his discussion fucking A+

[@ramisabashar]

Bo is so secure in his masculinity. Very refreshing to see.

[@ramisabashar]

+Michael Hawk Being feminine or exhibiting feminine qualities doesn't inherently mean you're gay.

[@TillyP]

His dad wasn't it's just a part of the act

[@formoftherapy]

He's stated that his family have actually always been supportive and any mention of his family in his acts are just straight up for the bit. Also, I guess I have to burst this bubble, 99.99% of comedians who tell jokes about their "experiences" are actually lying. They are carefully constructed stories meant to entertain you.

[@inconsolablepeasant1548]

+Ramisa Bashar If only more people thought like that.

[@boynova1423]

I went to the same school as he did, he's a few year above me though, and it was an all guys school so it makes sense that he's comfortable with sexuality.

[@norththelemon]

Alternate title: bo burnham struggles with having the highest level of empathy in the room 😂😂😂

[@RetrospectsToo]

I love how self aware Jake is. Also, I bet Bo gives good hugs.

[@anushakabber2709]

Bo's kinda great. He really did try to put himself in motorcycle's shoes/tyres. He's really good with this stuff. Either that or he knows what it's like to have a best friend.

[@seandiamond7625]

I agree with everything you said but because you spelled tires with a y, I hate you

[@Yolomamba24]

Except. He didn't even answer the question. He basically just repeated the kid's dilemma lmao

[@xocmwxo]

TYRES HAHAHHA

[@patriotichipster80]

bo is a bro. solid opinions and discussion.

[@andrewkeillor8302]

ajnode Have you watched any of Bo's stuff? because he does not buy into shit like all whites are guilty because they're white or shit like that

[@ethanpletcher6077]

ajnode wow. i totally understand where youre coming from, but i think he does have enough info for an educated guess

[@tommytwobrews]

ajnode fuck you

[@ryanrichter6403]

I'm tearing up at Bo's response to all of this. This is the best conversation

[@stayjj143]

Bo looks so good in this interview. And he's just such a gem.

[@urbanbushing]

watching jake trying to think through all the multiple options is one of the most real things I've ever seen.

[@dicamillo38ify]

This was kind of a beautiful, open conversation.

[@formoftherapy]

Jake's approach to being a better person is really refreshing. He's like "I'm either homophobic or misogynistic". And the thing is, being one or the either doesn't make you a bad person. I feel like people overreact when they are told they are being one or the other. Like Jake's approach is actually great because he's secure with himself that he knows he's not a bad person, but that he just has a wrong thought process, and is trying to unlearn sort of years of institutionalization.

[@Perricilus]

No he's just allowed himself to get so brainwashed by this victim culture that he's looking for this "wrong thought process" in everything regarding gays or women. Bo's approach is refreshing because he acknowledges the problem but he doesn't feel like he has to apologize everytime he talks about gays. Edit: to further prove my point, check out the part from 6:20, where Jake goes out of his way to call himself homophobic and that he doesn't respect women in 20 seconds. Then another 20 seconds later, he says "There might be deep-rooted homophobia in me, but i TRY REALLY HARD TO BE OPEN". Don't get me wrong, I've seen probably every episode of Jake&Amir and I like them, but this apologetic tiptoeing around other people's feelings is fucked up. Hell, when Bo says "no, you're not homophobic", Jake responds "no it's fine". He calls himself homophobic and when people tell them he's not, he reassures them that it's ok and he knows what an evil son of a bitch he is for his thoughts. Also it's a pretty bad mental state to have for a comedian if you're scared to make fun of something.

[@nesniping6378]

+Perricilus exactly

[@ozzie607]

I don't think he's either, he is straight and bring straight obviously he's going to enjoy having a girl sucking him off rather than a guy. It's only because he's not gay, not that he hates gays

[@aidan7899]

"institutionalization"

[@carolinacarvalho2254]

THIS!!!

[@sarabluewind321]

I really like how Bo thinks, he's really smart

[@garnerday7149]

nice comma

[@dornkincorporated6225]

nice commaent

[@kennethscott9253]

Dornk Incorporated I like it

[@yoyobanana9183]

Kate Hummel take out that comma to give your comment a completely different meaning

[@bettykline4879]

Kate Hummel When you miss the comma 😀

[@nilek198]

I kinda get where jakes coming from..guys can feel violated too and if he's just letting his friend do bc he feels kinda pressured then that could leave a mark. Like if I let some guy or girl touch just to be nice and I didn't really want it, I'd feel kinda sucky afterwards. I appreciate jake's approach to try and grow and be open minded and wow was Bo insightful!

[@abandonablesnowman]

I love that Bo pointed out that so much head is just a gesture 👏🏼

[@milesschaeffler875]

I literally love this so much! It's not like watching a normal "interview" where's it's like: "I AM A CRINGEY INTERVIEWER AND THIS IS FAMOUS, AMERICAN COMEDIAN, BO BURNHAM". It's just 3 bros hanging out and talking :)

[@prosebuds5124]

Bo is always so smart with his answers! He seems like such a genuinely amazing human being with a wonderfully open minded view on the world. AMAZING!

[@aishakhras]

4 years later and this still slaps

[@discobusiness7924]

Damn... this is the combo of a lifetime. If I Were You + Bo is the best power couple since Dangrin and his baton

[@nickcfilms]

"Motorcycle and The Wind" the title of my next fan fiction.

[@beanbagboy4life]

Bo is so incredibly intelligent and I love how open-minded they all are

[@provyprov]

Bo Burnham is the peak of humanity

[@daniellavaladez7820]

A wonderful human being and creative genius

[@michellee4602]

Awesome episode, Bo is the best. His special is amazing. The studio looks really great, too!

[@Headgum]

Thank you!!!

[@IeatBugszz]

i like how people call bo homophobic and he says stuff like this. As a gay guy myself bo has actually made me feel so comfortable with my sexuality its unreal

[@melodyhaviland9393]

as a queer person i absolutely agree. he obviously has made a lot of gay jokes in the past but i truly don’t think they came from a place of homophobia. he treats it like it’s so normal (which it is !!) anyway i just adore him

[@IeatBugszz]

@@melodyhaviland9393 exactly! I dont think people understand that when bo is making jokes the humour behind the songs/jokes is from other peoples perspectives meaning that he is making fun of the people actually saying that. And bo has never even made a statement on his sexuality before. Ive heard alot of people say hes straight from his song “straight white man” but he has said before he has made that to make fun of straight white men, categorising them without him in it. For all we know bo might not even be straight🤷🏻‍♂️

[@aeadg313]

Bo Burnham is the feminist that I didn't know I needed

[@blancacastillo7707]

i mean the hoes knows bo’s a feminist

[@lollaz66]

How is he a feminist here lol legit question

[@aeadg313]

@Lola lazy this was 6yrs ago so I don't remember which part exactly you're referring to. I think what I was referring to was BO reminding the guy in the hat that blow jobs are a favor to men because no woman is enthralled to give blow jobs

[@Linz_Chick]

Omg bo is freaking amazing I love him he understands the gay vs lesbian conundrum so much

[@PepprCabbg]

lmao we need a LOOOT more of Bo checking J&A's internalized misogyny/homophobia

[@chand911]

You don't know what internalized means...

[@nickydinino5651]

i dont think amir said anything wrong

[@fedea82]

@@michaelscott5468 no he did not have any misogyny. He didnt think it through, the correct answer was "lesbian girl blowing boy to experiment of her own will: it would be preferable because arguably both parties would want it". Bo tried to correct him on it as well when he thought it was homophobia. It was neither one.

[@michaelscott5468]

@@fedea82 internal misogyny*, and yes he did, he said that if a lesbian wanted to it’s fine and It’s hot but when the scenario was about two guys he was uncomfortable with it and thought it was weird and that it made him gay. But he corrected himself and he realized that it was internal homophobia, and although he’s right about that it’s also internal misogyny since sexualizing Lesbian relationships is rooted in misogyny. He’s not misogynistic, I never claimed he was but he does or at least did have internal misogyny in this video, everyone does, so do I. But it’s good to catch urself and correct urself like he did.

[@fedea82]

@@michaelscott5468 nah, no internal phobias. He said what he said and it was right originally. If the guy gets horny about two lesbians sure, that's a double standard, but no hatred or phobias towards gays nor women are there, just sexual attraction to lesbians while simultaneous sexual aversion to men. That's what not being attracted to men entails, it's completely natural to feel uncomfortable watching or thinking of men having gay sex. And the whole "everyone does have x phobias" is bs. I don't, nor does many people I know. Complete acceptance. And what he did, calling himself out, was not only cringe af but also factually wrong. He should be proud of who he is, there's nothing wrong w him nor his thought process.

[@Zlittlepenguin]

This was the most interesting topic I've ever heard of in my whole life.

[@ChillSyl11]

More like Bo Job amirite

[@kayohTM]

up top

[@avarcake]

Sylvia Sylveon No, no it's not... lol XD

[@MeganSmithers]

Bo's cute af

[@hannahhilal6018]

I thought he was cute 3 years ago and now just... DAMN BO 😂

[@MeganSmithers]

+HannahGamez right? He just keeps getting more and more attractive

[@hannahhilal6018]

Megan Smithers ITS NOT FAIR xD

[@mugomogu2379]

Megan Smithers he's smart too! godd

[@xerosilvrmun]

Megan Smithers you're cute af

[@manasavachat5101]

Who's here after his Netflix special Inside

[@YourPalJamieEllis]

Came for the funny, left with some life lessons.

[@PerryBowden]

I wish the full episode could be found here. Out of all the podcast type formats I have seen on KZbin, watching/listening to this was the best one yet. I didn't skip through it, or lose interest, because I like the personalities involved with the discussion, and genuinely want to hear their opinions.

[@eakeeper]

And that's how you have an open minded thoughtful conversation about a topic, more of Bo!!

[@nickleblanc4414]

"What you blow guys, that's a thing for girls" I have never heard anyone relate homophobia to mysogyny in the way Bo does here, holy shit that is so insightful

[@GreeeenT]

I wish bo had a podcast

[@PixelPenguin87212]

I fucking love Bo so much

[@readaholic7437]

Bo is the only true ally

[@caidwab]

Can I say PLEASE, damn Bo is attractive with facial hair

[@DendyJungle]

guesswhat iart looks like a thin scarce

[@zacari.zarpado]

Mo FUCK YES HE IS LIKE THE BLONDE TALL TWIN

[@pigebarn]

I am so damn much in love with his beard-look. And his cute, perfect smile. And his messy-but-always-gorgeous hair. And his adorable, sad eyes. I even love his nose. I'm just completely infatuated.....

[@jaspergrey4172]

Ngl I prefer him clean shaven honestly, but he's attractive either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@veronikametelkova1672]

this aged well

[@Sebastian-vc4xz]

You guys should upload the full videos they're really great and only make it funnier :)

[@triffus]

I love bo and wish he was my straight best friend at that age

[@carlyfallon6304]

What is always key is enthusiastic consent. If your partner can’t give you that then it not the play.

[@tishb.5094]

Where'd bo suddenly get that jar at 12:40?

[@Mentro140]

Tish B. That's his pee jar. He was trying to call for help and alert everyone that Jake and Amir kept him trapped in the basement.

[@s.j7423]

he just does that sometimes

[@JaneAshleyAndrews]

bo is just great

[@brandonallen2301]

Watching Jake and Bo go back and forth is like a 200iq chess match

[@queenfrostine97]

I AM UNBELIEVABLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS

[@Copper0Bre]

This was my favorite podcast. I died at the Dangrin question

[@poponater1000]

PLEASE do more with jake, amir, and bo. would love to see them do this regularly.

[@cautiouse]

I am a simple man I see Bo, I click

[@betweenXtheXstars]

Bo should totally become a permanent fixture in this show, the chemistry is undeniable. I mean, no homo.

[@matty_mash]

I’m currently going through old college humor cast members and seeing where they all are now.

[@mokoz7196]

Please make more of these! Studio is really relaxed and these questions are hilarious and thought provoking.

[@maddiebonahue8291]

PLEASE have bo back on the podcast

[@ascrc]

At 11:45 did Bo almost say asexual?

[@yeeeahboyeee123]

Damn good catch, yes I think so lol

[@CameronBaba]

I actually freaked out when I saw this- seriously my favorite comedians in one room together.

[@MerissaMitchell]

I actually really enjoyed watching this discussion wow. Kudos!

[@koribroadnax8717]

This makes me incredibly happy If I didn't love Bo Before aghh

[@Wiizl]

Holy shit! Top 3 funniest guys on the internet in one video!

[@oliviakiss02]

6:56 Look how mad he looks xD

[@Dylankeahi]

These are three of my favorite people, how did it take me 4 months to find this?

[@gretam4509]

Why is bo such a cutie pie 😂 my heart

[@pianotinkerer]

My bff is quite gay. I mean, she's bi but she leans towards women more, so being a good wingwoman I arranged to put her and my other bisexual friend in the same room (said friend is pretty hot). They got drunk and made out and I felt super good for making it happen.

[@timrenolds1415]

Shoutout from wales💯

[@MaddisonintheSky]

This is the best thing I've ever heard

[@zzzzzzzzzzz6]

Bo nailed it around 11:50.. even if we're totally accepting, we don't want to be perceived as gay because then women will find us unattractive / not on the market

[@lizchurchill6051]

I don’t know that’s true, though? As long as a guy is confident, he can be feminine and women will find him attractive. Sometimes more so.

[@pottetplant9975]

@@lizchurchill6051 The problem is people are very often associating "feminine" traits in men with being gay, also they're associating almost any physical contact between men as them being gay, also they're associating not wanting to have sex with women all the time or not being attracted to some conventionally attractive women with being gay, and many more. Of course a man might care if, for example, all of his friends would think he's gay because then he might miss on some girls he would like, only because they wouldn't even try to get with him, thinking he's gay, sure, but that's very specific and imo it shouldn't automatically go from that to being scared of doing anything that doesn't scream alpha male to every pottential sexual female partner in a 50km radius. I don't see men that are more affectionate, or have more feminine way of presenting themselves or are comfortable with platonic physical contact with other man like hugging etc, as unattractive. Honestly, I believe many women find those men even more attractive. So this argument doesn't make sense to me. I believe it's much more about how other men perceive them, not how women do.

[@lizchurchill6051]

@@pottetplant9975 my point exactly 👏🏼

[@zzzzzzzzzzz6]

@@lizchurchill6051 Sure, but if they assume we're gay, they won't hit on us and will only view us as friends. Just like if I believed a woman was a lesbian - I wouldn't want to make a woman feel uncomfortable if she didn't swing that way. Which is an empathetic thing to do, but very bad for our chances. So some of us have to act more straight / whatever than we might feel to be able to date most women. It's not a terrible thing, just how things play out.. but it is kind of annoying.

[@Weird_but_neat]

i love bo Burnham and I really like the part where Jake was like oh shit am I homophobic hahaha great episode guys subbed!

[@XxJiiGSAWx]

Motorcycle and his buddy are married now

[@katrineboucher7199]

Let me just say, wtf. And Bo's thinking's great

[@mozzstickdestroyer]

I don't know what was weirder, seeing Bo outside of his stage persona or seeing Amir out of character.

[@DarkSaintElite21]

How have I just seen Bo Burnham and Jake and Amir made a video together.... WTF! This is like my life in a video!

[@GreenXrays]

Is this perhaps where Bo got the inspiration for the sign off in 8th grade?? Gucci!

[@maggiechuang5387]

Jake and Amir with a sprinkle of BO?! (Brinkle?) SUBSCRIBED.

[@GowenID]

How does this channel only have 1.5k subs?

[@-cloudsaboveuscrying-6805]

I love bo so much omgg

[@nickdovolos8271]

I think Amir’s VR solution was the best option

[@4dultw1thj0b]

Wasn't that an episode of Black Mirror

[@gj4330]

holy heck didn't expect to find a new favorite channel

[@Ayse-x8d3u]

In the future they will write ballads of "Motorcycles and The Wind"

[@SaldanaSean]

Jake isn't homophobic. He's socialized. Jake, much like me, was brought up around people where two dudes experimenting is fucking weird and two girls experimenting is hot. And Jake's feelings reflect that. It takes years to rewire your brain and undo that socialization. Anyhow, Bo is incredibly smart.

[@sadlystuckinreality]

Bo is the best.

[@temporalfemale7986]

Cool about all of you being open-minded and all that, but how have you not even considered that this is a friendship that may be ruined by nothing more than sexual experimentation? Think if the story was about a straight couple of friends - a guy and a girl. Would you really advise best friends to mess around, knowing that this could very well ruin their friendship? I feel that in this case, gender and sexuality should be irrelevant. The question is: should friends experiment with friends?

[@barigeersful]

This is a crazy conversation. I love it tho. Lol.

[@quinsey9211]

Im so with both of them. they both make perfect sense.

[@rgh1132]

don't mix friends and sex. no matter if it's boy-boy, boy-girl, girl-girl

[@seallofapproval]

Ryan GERMANHEAD dude where were you when i needed this advice a year ago

[@banjoboy1223]

What about girl boy

[@drizzzzz]

This is essentially an episode of Jake and Amir, where Jake is being insecure.

[@gretam4509]

What’s a cool dudes name? Bo: motorcycle

[@Gorpgoop]

2:20 did bo just rwhoosh j and a? twice back to back?? edit:was the words "come" and "head", intentional?

[@casberta9819]

6:12 Bo is having ZERO SHIT from that guy

[@MrGeemills]

I get where both of them are coming from honestly I dont necessarily think they disagree just are coming at it from different biases bo would and jake wouldn't

[@tracy2919]

I was worried about the gay friend having/catching feelings for the friend the whole time

[@nesniping6378]

6:40 that's entirely different because the guy getting blown would enjoy it and the girl was the one who wanted to try it. The other scenario is the guy getting blown wasn't sure about it or necessarily comfortable with it and the guy blowing would enjoy it. Two very different things

[@jovaanii]

yes! love this conversation

[@realemaskye286]

as a lesbian this is pretty good but i think given that theyre all straight men theres a lot of nuance missing when theyre talking about sexuality especially when it comes to women and lesbians. like i get that the main subject was a gay dude and i cant really speak to what they got wrong there but saying that heterosexual women feel more comfortable being seen as gay then straight men is just straight up wrong (lol). just like. they miss a lot of layers when it comes to womens sexuality and the relationship lgb women have to straight women but i do think jake and bo were right on the money about his internal bias and it was cool that they could talk about that

[@realemaskye286]

@Comp uhhhhhhh i never said they were missing all the nuance when it came to mens experiences. yes they were mostly giving their own personal experiences and ill have u note i took no issue with that. but they also extrapolate what they believe the situation would look like if the sexes were reversed. im saying that from my personal expirience as a lesbian interacting with straight women, this imagined interaction is unfamiliar to me, and that they greatly underestimate the amount of homophobia straight women have because it doesnt manifest itself in the same way as it does for men. different people have different experiences, and these three men have all had very similar experiences and will inevitably get some things wrong when talking about other kinds of experiences w sexuality. in what way am i a bigot?

[@prosebuds5124]

@@realemaskye286 (as a bisexual woman) this is very well said!

[@realemaskye286]

@@prosebuds5124 thank u! some people are just. like totally resistant to the idea that they might not have all the information i guess

[@4dultw1thj0b]

That's very true, part of me wished I could've butted into the conversation myself lol

[@lollaz66]

Yeah it's almost as if they were saying queer women have it easier as they continued to objectify them

[@RemotHuman]

It might send the wrong message

[@MaLLinz289]

Jake you're not a homophobe, you just want everyone to have a good time

[@wafflemaker6590]

It sounds like motorcycle is being guilted into letting his friend blow him because he said he wanted let him do it to get even for all the stuff he's done for him

[@tdehnert16]

I NEED MORE!

[@Decenium]

11:40, its so true, I was thinking "what if I go to a new workplace, and ill just say that im gay" and yet you dont do it....

[@splashofsparks]

3 of my favorite people hurrah!

[@Kylethepolitician]

7:10 THATS SO TRUE

[@joshm977]

i really want to know what happened

[@JustinRCampbell88]

just the thought of playing "never have I ever" after letting him do that. but in all seriousness, I'd prefer to be able to say that I've never been blown by a guy. whether it is saying it to myself or any other person

[@jorgelujan9942]

Right, and it's fine if YOU feel that way. But the question relates to "Motorcycle" who is thinking maybe he wants to go ahead and do it. You shouldn't project your feelings onto Motorcycle by telling him he definitely shouldn't do it; you'd be enforcing your hangups on his experiences.