If John Williams Scored THE MANDALORIAN (Bar Fight)

[@Punz18]

It sounded like Star Wars. I almost forgot this was a rescore till the end

[@boudreauxbroletariat3959]

It actually is star wars! this is from attack of the clones when Anakin and Obi-Wan chase the assassin into the Nightclub on coruscant

[@thomasfernandomusic]

The music works very well with this scene. I wonder if Williams would have even scored it? He might have chosen to leave it un-scored, like the Bar Fight in Raiders.

[@boudreauxbroletariat3959]

I suspect the bar fight in Raiders was scored through, and maybe they chose to leave it out during post-production. I know Jackson took this approach with Shore in much of Lord of the Rings.

[@ThePenitentMan1]

The Medallion is 3m4/4m1, while Flight to Cairo is 4m2. I think the Raiders bar fight was intentionally left unscored to resemble bar fights in movies like Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

[@ConnorGriffinMusic]

I actually quite like the score for the show. It evokes old cowboy serials which is what they're going for with this show. Right down to the way Mando "rides off on his wagon" at the end of each episode.

[@minhuang8848]

Ludwig Göransson is a real master of his craft and his work on Mando really makes the show for me. Community, Black Panther... he always nails it. I'm really grateful for someone like him changing it up a good bit. I like the original score, but at this stage putting some old motives in newer movies almost seem like pandering while everything stays exactly the same. I want a different reimagination. People have become accustomed to different sounds, the feel of Mandalorian is much more renegade-y than any Star Wars I've seen... the score is fantastic and what made me like the show to begin with.

[@CharlieFisherMusic]

I must disagree with you. Whilst I think it's a cool genre, and some elements of this 'western' vibe work with the show, I think it is less pragmatic than the approach that Williams had already established. Sometimes I feel that the music 'disconnects' me from some scenes in the Mando. I would of liked if he used what Williams had already established as a foundation and gone off that - I can't hear any resemblance as it is. Just because it's different, doesn't mean its better imo. I'm sure Ludwig is a talented composer - but the music just doesn't cut it for me.

[@wizards-themagicalconcert5048]

@@CharlieFisherMusic Glad someone feels the same way here, he clearly stole his inspiration from Bill Conti's Rocky score ! And how the refuses to admit he stole more then an inspiration from that score for Mando in an interview i saw is sad! He worked on the movie Creed before ,that is clearly a Rocky continuation , for his work on Creed he must have done some research and found and liked Bill's OST and nearly lifted all instruments and many cues from there. His Love for Rocky is further evident as he named his own Son Apollo ! The same name as Carl Weathers had in the Movie. And then he lies here about stealing mostly all his music from other places. Man, so sad ! Actually, there seems to be mostly nothing original in all his compositions , and especially in the Mandalorian the music is so random, generic often and all over the place, its mostly just bad ! He ignores existing Star Wars musical history , tunes and existing motif's that would benefit the show for his own selfish reasons. OR he just don't know how to compose a good original score ! Really i I like the show, but his music nearly pushes me to the limit of what i can take.

[@johannengelhardt5885]

I don‘t

[@johannengelhardt5885]

@@CharlieFisherMusic i agree

[@ArnoArtner]

Don't think Williams would have went so "big" .. don't get me wrong, it's nice, but in my opinion totally misrepresents the mood of the scene and the way it was shot

[@Wourghk]

He definitely would have scaled it back. This is just a bar fight, and might have done better with some cantina theme to start, interrupting when the fighting got deadly, then resumed when it resolved as if scumbags dying horribly was a normal occurrence.

[@SimonePucciRocco]

I love Johnny from the deep of my earth, but I think that The Mandalorian score is so good, experimenting in always a good thing. This is not meant to be a big Star Wars film and Ludwig's Score works perfectly imho.

[@K_J_Coleman_Composer]

This rescore doesn't really represent John Williams that well. The setting is far wrong for the music. I do agree that Ludwig did excellent, but I feel like this is a bad example.

[@arseniykunin3423]

Damn... That's exactly what the show is missing. It's the music! So much more 'Star Wars' immediately!

[@dapperdan7612]

I kind of wished that Ludwig had tried to embrace a little more of that Williams Star Wars tone. He did a fantastic job with the orchestral version of the main theme, but every thing else is either too modern sounding or just Morriconne (which I’m fine with). Michael Giacchino found the perfect balance in my opinion between his sound, the overall sound of Star Wars, and using many of the key John Williams Star Wars motifs. If that’s all Ludwig did was add classic Star Wars motifs and maybe created more of his own, then the score would improve massively.

[@Yoshignacio]

now THAT sounds like star wars

[@ScottGlasgowMusic]

It would be more interesting to have the "what if" Morricone or Conte scored Mandalorian.

[@Hoganply]

Watch the "Il Mandaloriano" quasi-spoof trailer. It's cool.

[@seanv3180]

I’m a big fan of the tv show’s music...but I’m a bigger fan of John Williams. Star Wars and his score just go so well together.

[@amirsanjaricomposer]

nobody can beat maestro John Williams but lets appreciate Göransson for doing something new

[@RedCaio]

Please please PLEASE do more of these for the mandalorian

[@chasengrieshop]

While I really like the Mando's score, I've always maintained that it doesn't have that Star Wars sound that makes a very Star Wars like project on the visual production side feel a bit less like Star Wars. This really illustrates why. I agree with Ephriot that perhaps for this scene Williams wouldn't have gone "so big" (This is more of a running from velociraptors track) but as a representation of what Star Wars has consistently sounded like since 1977 until 2016, and how the Mando could have turned out with a composer that mirrors John Williams, this works.

[@InventorZahran]

J'ispie, uba hasa me yocola!

[@alfonsoperdomo4469]

This really captures the style of the master! There's just one thing for me. Isn't there too much sync between image/actions and the music? I feel like it tends to mickey mousing

[@peterjoyfilms]

John Williams does a lot of mickey mousing, but it's usually a bit subtler than this Edit: I think also this video syncs things up too closely rather than too much, for example how the music changes when the hologram comes on. Typically with this sort of thing the music comes a little after, because it's non diegetic and sort of reactionary to the image.

[@alfonsoperdomo4469]

@@peterjoyfilms exactly! You said it better than me. Rather than doing it too often, the problem is being too notorious

[@boudreauxbroletariat3959]

considering that the music is actually from Attack of the Clones, I like how the editor deliberately synced the legs dropping with the music.

[@Cestariarts]

Too good. I've watched many times!!!

[@DeviousTalent]

This is the way. I have spoken

[@mitchlg531]

Hey so I love your analysis for all the cues you have done. I am actually doing my first one right now and I need to make the score. So my question is that how do you get the video and the score align and record it? Is the video on a layer over the score or?

[@biancad370]

Ooh that's so much better than the official Mandalorian score... I really think they should have hired Williams again or someone who could do a similar soundtrack cuz Ludwig's score does not sound like Star Wars AT ALL

[@GujuNilesh]

Can you do one of the bond films without music

[@GhostSamaritan]

Damn, I always felt like something was off about this series and now I know it's the music!

[@MathiasBjrnskov]

Nowu of the North i think the music in the series is FANTASTIC and fresh, it’s so nice to finally get something Star Wars that’s isn’t Williams

[@GhostSamaritan]

@@MathiasBjrnskov I mean after watching the whole thing I think the music was great but didn't fit the action.

[@PabloSchmittCreative]

exactly

[@K_J_Coleman_Composer]

I didn't find this rescore to be anywhere near the level of a John Williams working. The context is all wrong. And anyways, Ludwig did excellent melding Star Wars with Western. Spot on for the show (coming from a huge Johnny fan).

[@nelic182]

Ludwigs is good but quite often I feel he needs to add more orchestral (particularly some action scenes)

[@mrconcept]

I thought they did a great job with the music in general on this series but this scene is 100pc better with that cue.

[@jonny0129]

John Williams is Star Wars

[@ctsr1117]

What music track is that from?

[@bencostello7435]

Zam the Assassin

[@declancreamer1619]

And Jango’s escape

[@ctsr1117]

Thanks to the both of you

[@miguelbayne4506]

Now THIS is how the music should've been for the show. Don't get me wrong, the music for the show is fine, but the sound of it has absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars.

[@Timbecillus]

I think that's the point. The style of the show isn't typical Star Wars, I'd rather have them try something new with the music as well. (Just like Kevin Kiner's TV scores only occasionally quote Williams, when appropriate, instead of emulating his style all the time)

[@miguelbayne4506]

@@Timbecillus I totally get it, it's just that, to me, the music is a bit too extremely removed from classic Star Wars music. And it doesn't quote any of the old themes (from what I've heard so far). It's just that what Ludwig did (unsurprisingly) is so devoid of the kind of naïveté and fun that makes John Williams' Star Wars scores so engaging and timeless. Kevin Kiner would have been a much more appropriate choice as the composer. Ludwig's music possesses none of the emotional richness and complexity of the other Star Wars scores.

[@boudreauxbroletariat3959]

I had high hopes for Ludwig since I love his work on black panther and creed. But the music is definitely his own genre, especially compared to how Powell and Giacchino essentially aped Williams' idiom (not that I'm complaining, they did fantastic work). The new sound gives SW some viability in the future and lets it step out from the shadow of Williams and Lucas.

[@handznet]

No. Its not fine. Sadly🥵

[@mdavidmullins]

Yes. I would KILL for a melody or two.

[@tennisgazelle]

What piece is this?

[@Dragontrumpetare]

Ok nice clip but feel that musical score clearly ment to be used during a hunt-action-scene not to work here. Thinking of music John could have written for such a scene. Some of the cues from Star Wars a new hope from the millennium Falcon could work.

[@pablotolentinomusic]

could u do a video about the opening scene of The Matrix pleaseee?

[@julianaylor4351]

Works.😎

[@kendiggs]

The actual score from the show is marvelous. I'm glad they didn't try to go in THIS direction.

[@scotchwhisky6094]

It would have been better if they went this direction instead, John would have done something great with this show.

[@kendiggs]

@@scotchwhisky6094 >> They DID do something great with this show.

[@scotchwhisky6094]

@@kendiggs John would have done better.

[@seanv3180]

Thank you! I thoroughly enjoyed this. I don't dislike the music in The Mandalorian but I am a firm believer that a John WIlliams score would add A LOT to the show.

[@ProfessorGenius1]

Nice

[@grahpayy]

I want to see this whole opening scene without music

[@unclearsector4266]

So cool wtf!!

[@the_real_kieganjones9932]

This was a great idea for rescore. I will say though that the interpretation is very much in there but if we look at the show as a whole , It really is a western, down to the cinematography of it it demands that sound To a point. Nonetheless if you were to rescore it with a more John Williams vibe with a western style you would probably get something far more closer to what you re-scored. I really appreciate this thank you very much this was very cool. This really does show the dramatic difference in tone of film by the change of sound.

[@CrisOriol]

Oh......yessss

[@akbarkhantoru]

I don’t know but this feels more STAR WARS

[@leifj2009]

If Ron Jones gets hired for the second season, he would bring some of the Holst-style music to the series, and evoking the Morricone tone.

[@JonnDthunDer]

I'm quite glad that Ludwig was brought back for the second season...he did some fantastic work.

This was interesting. But contrary to what a lot of people say in the comments, this does not sound more like Star Wars. It sounds more like Big Movie. And The Mandalorian isn't that. John Williams music might evoke a sense of nostalgia for the franchise, but it wouldn't fit the style of the series at all. This is not in the epic fantasy genre, like the main series, but rather the western/samurai genre. The music has to reflect that. An epic fantasy soundtrack muddles the genre and waters the scene down.

[@ctsr1117]

*ILA\EBUO;HI;ZIOAEJ;AETIILAREGUIHOA* i missed the premiere!

[@barclaymovingpictures3041]

Thanks for fixing the score!

[@scotchwhisky6094]

Nope this is only for attack of the clones.

[@SchardtCinematic]

Sounds much better. That's the one thing that doesant feel Star Wars is the soundtrack to this show.

[@handznet]

If he does the show would be much better. The music is bad. Lets be honest

[@minhuang8848]

Best soundtrack of the year, dude.

[@juanm.urbina8272]

This is NOT the way.

[@kirbyspencer]

This sounds so much better in terms of tone than the music that is actually in the show in my opinion. That being said the recent episode was much more true to the star wars style. Every so often however Göransson will just completely go off on a tangent musically - like he has run out of true to style ideas, throwing my whole perspective off. Its annoying. I digress though, much better - though he'd of had the music loose its energy once the fight was over and the blue guy was talking. Even though the dynamic is lower, the rhythm of it is still too distracting and unintentionally gives off the feeling that the Mandalorian is still in danger, when he isn't - which in turn, doesn't allow us to focus fully on what the blue guy is saying. Much better overall.

[@mattd7650]

I love the Mandolorian, but I hate the scores! They take me out of story. I get what they are trying to do with it, but I don't think it works. It just seems amateur to me. I can tell the composer is able to do good work, but the philosophy behind this show's scores are all wrong. That is my opinion, and I have heard the same from most of the fans I speak with. There are glimpses of greatness there, but the scores are just too unbalanced.

[@claudep.1926]

Well... you just don't stick Star Wars randomly and expect it to work. There's no fucking way Williams would have scored this scene like that ;)

[@wizards-themagicalconcert5048]

Much much better ! I really want to enjoy the mandalorian but this terrible OST drags me every time down ! The OST sounds like all over the place nothing seems to fit, action scenes with metallic noise and snare drums that doesn't resemble music at all. Worst..the main theme sounds like a copy of Bill Conti's Rocky ! The music was always an integral part of star wars, a character it self that made the whole experience ! Watching Mando with this music just feels like dragging it down. Cheap straight to DVD level stuff. Star Wars has such a rich history of music, and many people or places have tunes and musical motif's that are mostly all absent here ! Sad ! The music is the weakest part in this otherwise great show for me !

[@smoothjazzfails]

Wut

[@ctsr1117]

*ILA\EBUO;HI;ZIOAEJ;AETIILAREGUIHOA* i missed the premiere!