"If you are in danger and your life is threatened" . Part 2/2

• "If you are in danger ... - Explanation
Things in order:
It is an bylaw offence to activate an emergency release without a valid reason. The clue to what are a valid reasons is in the name emergency, missing your bus/bus stop is not an emergency no matter how great your ego and sense of self importance!
1. I picked all passengers and closed the doors. Then I checked my mirror for anyone running. From here on is the point of no return and opening the doors second time can cause me to lose my license and the company to be taken to court if there is an accident at the offside or the nearside.
2. I checked my mirror and Indicated that I am leaving the bus stop. This is called "point of commitment". Where you are committed to depart the bus stop and must focus on your offside. The car behind the bus stopped, so I was given clear way to depart. The traffic lights were red for some time, so green was coming in few seconds (I know since I drive there multiple times per day).
3. At this point the passenger knocked at the door, which is not allowed in London as it may distract the driver, who must be focused on leaving the bus stop and entering traffic safely. The traffic lights changed 1 second later and I departed.
4. At the next set of traffic lights I stopped at red. The passenger that knocked on the door come to the front door of the bus and used the "emergency door release". This was improper use of the emergency door release button and is actually a major offense. Because I didn't know his intentions I opened all the doors of the bus, to give chance the passengers to escape if this person decides to carry out any sort of attack.
5. After I used the intercom two other passengers made comments, disregarding the actions of that person and attempted to tell me how to do my job. Speaking to the driver of a bus is prohibited unless the bus is stopped safely at a bus stop. So at this point I have 2 more people and 2 minor offences as well as the major one.
6. I made decision to protect my driver license and the company from been taken to court if an accident happened, because of these people distracting me. My decision was to remove the distractions/offenders.
7. Knowing that it's peak hour and the police response for emergency will be 10+ minutes if I am lucky and knowing that the maximum time I can stay with passengers on board on a bus stop is 3 minutes I made a decision. Terminate the bus as none of the offenders will have left the bus in less than 3 minutes, since there is none on board that will speak to them.
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8. I need the passengers to request another passenger to leave the bus, since I am not allowed to ask people to leave the bus. Since nobody will ask them to leave I terminated the service after informing the TFL of my decision.
You will notice the TFL didn't said a thing or try to negotiate. Driving by the rules is my primary job, negotiating with passengers is not my job. The police is called to enforce the rules if needed. I didn't call the police, since I was actually affected by the speech of the person. I knew he will not escalate. The passengers will leave at some point and I also needed couple of minutes to regain my focus, before I continue driving.
This is a very complicated situation. There are multiple people making demands/pressure on the driver. It's peak hour and it's very busy. 9/10 drivers will keep driving, because they are afraid of losing their job or don't know their rights or the rules properly. However the passengers got that 1/10 drivers on that trip that is not afraid to make difficult decisions within seconds and carry them out to the end. I hope these passengers meet me again. Usually I look them in the eye, waiting for them to say something nasty, but so far they just tap their card and go take a seat.

[@roadmonitoroz]

As an ex bus driver, I understand why he did what he did. If you have a trouble maker that uses the emergency exit button to gain entry, then it stands to reason that the same person is also going to cause more trouble in the future. It's the same that if you have someone banging on your vehicle window, yelling at you to open the door that the person would most likely cause you harm if you actually open the door / window. I've been in that situation a few times in a car and even in the bus I've had people hit the bus with their fist as I was driving past (even displaying the "Not in service" sign that can easily be read 30 metres (93 feet away) because they wanted me to stop for them. I even had a totally plastered (seriously drunk) guy get on without a ticket just to lay down on the seat because he couldn't walk any further (about 100 metres / 330 feet) to the hostel he was staying. I explained quite calmly that he can't stay on / sleep on the bus and needs to get off. He tried using drunk logic which failed miserably. He finally got off without drama. I could tell so many stories about things that happened but I wont. The city council buses around here don't have a full cage either.

[@awolwakefieldyorkshire]

Yes you're right. The entitled person was after a confrontation which we get regularly as bus drivers. Emergency door buttons should only be used in an emergency and the drivers is in his right to refuse travel.

[@cuznerdexter]

This is modern life, the criminal is always justified, the victim is blamed. Clown world!

[@maximillianphoenix9374]

People sometimes forget that drivers are human beings

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

The people logic is: The driver have the right to drive. Thats why he is paid and the 1.75 £ ticket is enough. If the driver dont drive then there is something wrong with the driver.

[@BMWE-rw3sq]

People forget to be a people. Not sometimes,every time. Whait he can not doing this to Aeroplane!!?? Push the emergency button from outside and the door opening when he too late to the flight there is!!?? Every bady mass follow the roules when nothing is not your part. Bus is not part to the pasager, Bus is part to the Busdriver. You breaking the roules finish the ride.Whait onother Bus. Mission Complete👍🏼

[@spymash3746]

Love how everyone blames the driver, but the person who caused the situation gets no retribution.

[@srdcro]

But how really caused the situation? That passenger who gust wanted to not wait in the cold for another bus, or the driver who dind't whant to open the door for him?

[@spymash3746]

@@srdcro The driver has a hard enough job as it is. You just can't have people jumping on and off as they please as it is a safety issue. That's what bus stops are for. Too many entitled people around. Are you one of them?

[@srdcro]

@@spymash3746 Maybe I am, who knows? What I know for certain is that I'm a truck driver and I know better than you what is hard and not in our line of work, and belive me, to open the door for that guy would be much easier than took off, to have something to post on YT.

[@drobz123]

@@srdcroas a bus driver I can assure you that once a bus has indicated and committed to pulling away from a bus stop, they must not open the doors (unless in an emergency). If any thing happens then the driver will be liable. This is his job, you have to remember that.

[@mlx39996]

@@srdcroidiot

[@tshgamingchannel7670]

I am with the driver on this and I am glad he stood his ground.

[@thefrenchareharlequins2743]

Absolutely fair play to you, no law in the country obliges you to drive that bus.

[@officialmr_springtrap]

Now I understand why London bus drivers sit in their own shielded cab

[@jonathanwhitmore1926]

I was a bus driver then i became a coach driver and will never go back to buses because of stuff like this, passengers on coaches are civil, human, normal and above all respectful.

[@yann0016]

Crazy how the driver took the blame even tho the driver did nothing wrong and the guy risked himself in traffic just to get on the bus.

[@GarfieldtheDestroyer]

If the passenger got on at a traffic light using the emergency door release, I would not want to drive with an unpredictable and unsafe person in the back, it is dangerous. Of course if they refuse to get off, the driver is well within their rights to terminate

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Check my new video, same thing there, but this time to get out of the bus

[@channin]

I haven't taken a bus since I was in school 10 years ago. Shoutout to you guys, literally carrying this country. Guy who boarded at the lights is an entitled f---.

[@davidyoung9561]

Just to clarify, the driver does not have to submit his name. If anyone wIshes to complain, all they need is the fleet number of the bus and time. That's it.

[@TheCrystalShield]

Man, remember the old tridents and enviros, when you could just hold the 'door close' button on some of them, and nobody could pull this shit?

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

London is in very deep trouble and is going to get only worse.

[@1996fanclub]

Bus driver and driver supervisor of 7 years here. Absolutely 100% backing you up. Those passengers were just being unreasonable. If you think there is a safety issue with a person on board, you have no obligation to continue with passengers on board. I would have asked you to do the exact same thing.

[@antoniobettencourt6564]

This is how all drivers should do well done do not be afraid

[@SonofthewindsInc]

Bloody hell mate, the pressure you have to face is incredible. Good for standing your ground.

[@OmarZ-ln9hk]

Fr

[@ao_gaming2654]

Im with the driver on this one. Its a shame that those using the emergency door opening buttons improperly dont get fined or prosecuted like they would on the railway.

[@TARTANATORscotland]

If the person has entered the bus by force and is still on the bus the police will remove him from the bus possible jail don’t mess with the rules

[@BusTrainsGuy18]

As a TFL worker the bus driver is in the right here, you are not allowed to open doors on a busy main road or else there’s a reason for that. But at no point should a passenger open the emergency button door release and enter no matter if you paid or not. And on the plus side the other passengers should really mind there business or either understand that the bus drivers are human beings and not robots so the fact that you got some of these numbers skulls acting as if they know everything should sit down and think who’s actually in the wrong here and clearly the guy that open the emergency door release and entered is 100% in the wrong not the bus driver.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

Moat certainly is in the right, i used to the same thing last time drove in London back in September. These ppl think we still give paper tickets for transfer, why havent they got the memo🤷🏽‍♂️😂

[@Arikuit]

They were black, the girl the guy spoke to was black too. Im highlighting the obvious because clearly black bias is a real thing... being entitled because they're black. Its sickening. No, your human first and all need to be treated equally. This bullshit of using the past to justify your actions today is really ridiculous.

[@Arikuit]

I can guarantee if it was a black drive, no problem!

[@LiClan]

@@Arikuitcorrect observation

[@colehine1266]

@@ace-paidinfull5240 In fairness to the request for a transfer ticket, TfL did used to issue them for short-terminating buses, but stopped during COVID when the driver compartments were sealed, but this change has never been publicised by TfL as recent FoI requests have confirmed - whilst not the bus driver's fault, it's not unreasonable that someone might not know about this change, and that overcharging caused by it now can only be rectified by phoning TfL Customer Services.

[@racerxr2]

EBS Fault on an E200 MMC, all is right in the world. You were much more polite than I would have been, glad I don't have to deal with stuff like this where I drive.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Greenford and Ealing are notorious with how much downhill they have gone in the past 15 years. EBS fault - servicable. Who need brakes on a bus.

[@jopu7004]

@@Not-a-Cockroach Brakes just slow you down!

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@jopu7004 They do indeed. Forward is the only direction we need.

[@channelplays00]

well done driver Totally understandable

[@kaan7335]

I cant lie the driver is right

[@marcom9103]

The standard of driving is very low in London. All them cars on the opposite side of the road queuing opposite parked cars where their wasn't enough space

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

They dont think or plan ahead. They tailgate each other with 3 mph and just get stuck sometime. If traffic is moving slow. Keep distance as well to not get stuck. Stop let vehicles go around stopped on the side vehicles, as you can easily catch up when they move with 10mph or less.

[@SW-kr9fl]

Good on the driver and you don’t need to give them passengers any personal information. They should blame the ignorant passenger who caused this trouble.

[@1190SW]

Scottish bus driver here. Totally in your rights there - you closed the doors and were away..and you can fully refuse further travel as others have said, what else is that person going to do if he just breaks rules like that? Smoke, spit? Got to love all the punters flying off the handle though...aren't the buses fairly frequent in London? They're not going to have to wait that long for another to come...folk down there sound so entitled.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Buses are 10-12 minutes, with many routes overlapping partly. He just had to be on that bus. He didn't expect his actions will result in 15+ minutes traffic jam. When people act stupid I will always help them experience the effect of their actions. After all, if they don't experience it, they will never learn that the water is wet and the fire is hot.

[@daddymalony]

What have I just watched? They must be desperate for drivers.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Welcome to the UK. Where no one want to work face to face with the public.

[@nnnn-mn8ud]

No wonder no one wants the job, I drive coaches , tell the punters " if you want to do your own thing/ own rules buy the bus, drive it and I will go home, you can take responsibility." With vosa and authorities.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@nnnn-mn8ud They can barely drive a car... Most of the new bus drivers, dent the bus in the first week, but yea good advice for them haha.

[@bodazephyr6629]

London must be one of the worst cities for a bus driver. It's very hectic, especially rude customers, cyclists doing dangerous stunts all the time, etc. It's difficult to survive on a bus driver wages in London as the pay is only slightly higher than in the north of England, but the living costs are massively higher. If i was a London bus driver I'd move to north of England or Scotland, for easier life and higher standard of living.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

It's an honest work, making sure people in the capital can travel in a safe and regulated manner. The pay while not high is over 33k per year, which is mostly okay, unless you like to spend handfuls.

[@bodazephyr6629]

@@Not-a-Cockroach i agreed it's an important job, and if you prefer living in London then it's a good choice. I just think London bus driver should be paid more. With the high cost of living in London they should be on at least £22/hour.

[@djglw01]

​@@Not-a-Cockroach lothian buses in Edinburgh pay £36k

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@bodazephyr6629 the bus service is paid by TFL taxes. They will need to rise all TFL taxes even more. We already got ULEZ. Othereise tickets will double in price.

[@ConwaybestYT]

You handled that so well well done!! ❤ im with you man 😊

[@Dmog97]

3:52 he got Connor mcgregor on the phone to sort it out !

[@nicothechihuahua3167]

Which part of Africa did this happen?

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

🤣

[@lance941]

No need

[@HjjMemes]

Bro learnd geography from McDonald's sewage system💀💀🤡🤡🤡

[@user-cp6rh7pf5h]

I had to scroll a bit to find this comment 😂

[@Phoji]

@@HjjMemes you're a sewage system

[@reecelowton]

All the people shouting at the bus have no idea they are taking about

[@mickay1970]

It’s good you stand your ground against these stupid passengers. Big respect for doing the job but you should be a lorry driver instead 💯

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

I wont call them stupid. The passengers are entitled and have inflated feeling of self importance. There is not a single reason to change my job at the moment. I am also rather passionate about my work place and I am not grateful when people cuss at me.

[@mickay1970]

@@Not-a-Cockroach thank you for your reply, driver. And to be fair you are right. The passengers see themselves as better than you. I did that job for 8 years, I’d never do it again even if they doubled the pay. I have the D+E licence though so it’s handy.

[@TheByard]

Back in the 1950s when I was a kid all buses were manned by a driver to drive the bus and a conductor to sell tickets and look after the passengers. Then came the front opening doors and the boss's said no need for conductors. So, the service slowed down as the driver had to sell/check tickets this took time with the bus stopped at the bus stop, buses coming behinds would line up but not open the door until the bus was on the stop. Passengers got fed up with these delays to travel after waiting for a bus to come along. Gone were the days of a cheery cockney clippie, wishing you a good morning, making sure everyone had paid, calling out the next stop and helping the elderly, infirm board and alight. Stopping red light boarders with an arm across the entrance hand grips. Now we have buses with hundreds of buttons, push buttons outside the bus so anyone can push them. So many rules that it need a gang of lawyers to sort em out, so many buttons it must be a Distracted Driving offence. It's bad enough driving an HGV in London. I'd hate to drive with a live load and check tickets etc. etc. Live loads are livestock and fluids in a tanker, animal carcasses hung from roof hooks that sway on cornering and braking. Yes, and standing passengers.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Welcome to the society. We were supposed to have flying cars by 2020, instead we have instructions on food packaging, not to eat the food without removing the packaging from around it.

[@ManlykefreshINC]

These passengers are so ignorant. So let’s say you’re driving along in your car and then all of a sudden somebody just opens your door without permission and gets in. And it’s embarrassing coz they all think the guy who did this is in the right. 🤣🤣🤣 I had a situation like this a few weeks ago actually when I had just pulled away from the bus stop and the man pressed the button as I was moving at about 3 miles per hour. I refused to move until he got off and all the passengers told him to get off as he had no right to do that. However that was only because the people on board were nurses all trying to get to work. I am sure if they weren’t, they would have all started on me like these people did. 😔

[@Oscartherescuedog]

What do you film with? The footage is very clear, are they glasses with a camera?

[@DarkStorm2711]

Think I heard the bus was going to Ruislip... so would be either 278 or the E7 bus route which is operated by Abellio London... think most prob the E7 as that bus goes to Ealing Broadway x

[@DiverseDreamer]

I think bus drivers have a lot of ego, and less communication skills - You could have continued driving to a safe stop, called the person over and explained why it’s dangerous to open the doors. It is not fair that one driver can interrupt an entire route because of one person who walked on the bus which is not their fault. Why is a driver doing a job if they feel threatened by a guy who they refused to pick up at a bus stop, he just wanted to terminate the bus and go home early. It is people like this driver who make London a difficult place to live, he has opportunities in the UK that he would not have had if he was back home in his country. People should appreciate that we are all here in the UK as migrants together, we need to work with each other not against each other; wasting each others time and calling the Police wasting public money and taking them away from actual serious crimes. TFL Should make leaflets as to why you should not use the emergency button or an audio announcement to educate and inform; you can’t just expect people to be dangerous and violent because they used an easy accessible button. This is why I don’t take Bus Public Transportation in London, I much rather travel by Tube; this wouldn’t happen on the Underground.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

i will not bother to reply to your points as the description covers all of your points, you just haven't bothered to read it.

[@fidias9]

he just did not want to drive

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

You are correct. No one wants to drive the bus.

[@TheDirector17]

Harsh but good work from this driver. Standards need to be maintained. Passengers asking about transfer tickets should be referred to the TfL bus hopper policy - no charge for taking the one behind.

[@Ciaran_04]

Well done, Driver

[@TheHoops123]

I thought doctors were suppose to be polite 🤔

[@user-kl1wd4fn4i]

Usual suspects

[@finleyhugill3379]

Where’s this?

[@Teo97b]

dealing with any random idiot as passenger is what's hard!

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Passangers aren't in charge of the bus. Speak with the person in charge and the situation will be sorted, if that person is not lazy.

[@bazf2443]

I don't understand why the bus stayed put after the passenger in question left.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Car in front parked on double yellow, blocking my exit from the bus stop. If you look at the mirror, you will notice a double decker stuck next to me and a huge traffic jam forming in front of Ealing town hall. I did reverse my bus as well, to get better angle to leave. However I am not allowed to reverse a bus with passengers, even an empty one can get me disciplinary. The correct action according to rules was to wait for the police to come and secure the road so the bus continues FORWARD, which is the only direction a bus driver is allowed to drive.

[@pokedweeb]

Why you complaining

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@HACKERHITMARKER333 because I can resolve the situation without wasting tax money and wasting the time of the police with an egoist with feeling of self importance.

[@sanchoodell6789]

What has the *Cold Cold Cold Packed Faced Left* done to *our* once great great country!

[@michaeldoesrobloxxx2212]

Just cause ur doors are closed and indicator is on don’t mean u can’t open them again that’s just down to u being nice or not and ik that bc I’m a bus driver

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Ask in your garage what having your driver side indicator ON while on a bus stop means. All the cars stop, behind the bus waiting for you to depart and you have your doors open to pick passengers? This is a very disrespectful and can lead to an accident.

[@swaze8599]

Why is the police response so late ?

[@mitchellgiffard1978]

Was'nt life threatening what grounds would the guy even be arrested on.

[@LukasLife01]

Just to clear one thing up, he could not open the doors at the bus stop for that passenger as he had already signalled to pull out and was official part of traffic.

[@karimtube2]

London is crazy 😂

[@busnutta]

This is painful. I feel sorry for the poor driver. But I would have shut the door after he entered at the traffic lights. (Too risky leaving the doors open) Cleared the traffic lights and stopped at the first safe place. Shut the engine off. Shouted for the guy to come back and get off. Sorry passengers. Bus not going anywhere until he is off. I would not have argued with them. Other to say the guy is not allowed to travel because he has broken the conditions of carriage. Glad I’m well out of London now!

[@d1sp1c4bleme3]

The thing that made me laff my balls off was when the driver said I’m not a public servant if that is the case then wtf he doing driving a public bus to transport the public, some people just have no brains at all

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

TFL is not government owned or state owned, so even if I work for them I am not a public servant, which I as a bus driver don't, because buses aren't owned by TFL. Bus drivers don't have TFL marking on their uniform, because bus drivers don't work for TFL. Tube drivers do have TFL markings, as they are employed by TFL. Bus drivers are employed by private companies to drive privately owned vehicles. London buses are privately owned and the drivers work for private companies. Everyone want to say "I have right to do stuff", but you also have right to be informed and educated, so you don't speak nonsense in front of everyone else. As you said "some people just have no brains at all". If the above is not clear enough for you as to why Bus Drivers aren't public servants I will guess your lack of education begins from your childhood.

[@megagunner12345]

@@Not-a-CockroachGood on you mate. You behaved professionally in the face of a difficult situation. It’s disgraceful that some people here disagree with you and that others are talking about your nationality.

[@littlebigman6957]

If the driver had done this where i used to work it would have been dismissal. No question.

[@awolwakefieldyorkshire]

Pleased i don't work for that same company

[@littlebigman6957]

@HACKERHITMARKER333 it was a family firm and go ahead, took over the company, and I left within weeks . I was a coach driver, and they virtually shut down the coaching side within weeks. It was a company from East yorkshire ( big clue there). I did local bus quite a lot of the time.

[@JB-Thatisme]

Then I'd take the company to a tribunal. It's law (not company policies) that people can't embark/disembark away from the kerbside and in the road. It also voids the companies public insurance.

[@jjmmjj9999]

definitely would be questions as it's covered under PSV rules.... cor i'd love to get dismissed for this. Wouldn't have to work for years with the payout.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

7:00 driver what what are you waiting for🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ Your giving me anxiety as if to say im your follower when really im sitting on the toilet watching this😂😂 But seriously why you indicating but not moving?

[@leehill8437]

how did it take so long for you to leave the bus stop it caused carnage that was an easy enough place to move im confused what was the reason ?

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

The only thing that you need to know is: This is a bus stopped at a bus stop and it will stay there as long as it's needed. There is nothing anyone can say or do to change that. If you watch the video you can see the events. At the end I am the driver and my decision is final. So you can say the bus stayed there, because I chose to do so, since the bus stop is where the bus is supposed to stop.

[@Womblewobble1321]

Is this not against GDPR?

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Body camera is not CCTV. This is also my personal body camera. These videos are here without any profit for me. Therefor GDPR doesn't apply. Also when you are in public you cannot expect privacy.

[@budthechud9795]

If someone used the emergency open button to board the bus you should not continue the journey with them on board. This driver is doing the right until he refuses to give out his driver number to complaining passengers which is causing the situation to snowball.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

There is no snowball. The whole bus will be emptied, or I will not drive it. When my shift finishes, I will just leave the bus there and go home.

[@budthechud9795]

@@Not-a-Cockroach I'm speaking from experience dude and know what to do and not to do. You was right about not giving your personal details but they are able to ask for your driver number which once used to be your badge number. There was a time when you was expected to display it.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@budthechud9795 There is a reason why these are removed from the uniform. First: The TFL system works by time, bus stop name and direction of the bus. These are the 3 things TFL uses to know who was driving that bus. Second: How to report a bus or a driver is displayed just behind the driver cabin. None of the information there says "Ask the driver about his driver number". TFL don't use that information and the passengers have no right to know it and shall never be provided to them as this is breach of data. Third: TFL or a Bus Company will never leak any of the driver identifications/information, neither shall the driver. Fourth: If the information is not displayed on the uniform then obviously doesn't belong to public eyes.

[@budthechud9795]

@@Not-a-Cockroach good points fella as the procedure has changed👍

[@johnthedude1000]

so you can operate all the devices when driving ?

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

When the passenger used the emergency door open I noticed multiple people against me. Since I intended to not have anyone against me I already had the plan to terminate and remove them. I operated the radio since I had to do code blue and get my bus monitored with police on standby with relevant information, before I reach the next stop. This was done for my personal safety as I intended to escalate the situation and ensure the bus and my safety. In such situation emergency actions can be taken disregarding policies, rules and regulations. If I am not safe then the bus is not safe. If the bus is not safe, no one is safe

[@HjjMemes]

​@@Not-a-Cockroach should just call police. You have the mind of a 2 Yr old. Ngl, but you're delusional

[@thetrainhornmaster9439]

Always blame the drivers even when there not at fault come on BUS DRIVERS ARE HUMANS TOO plus they are paid to be late so if a passenger abuse a driver all drivers have the right to ask them to leave I feel sorry for these drivers that have to deal with abusive passengers everyday and honestly we should blame social media because in the old days people who forget there bus pass just walk back to get there pass but now people argue with the driver to cause hassle and it always blame the driver remember your bus pass is the reality but the public are so self entitled to the point they make the rules up

[@bighead01001]

Good bus driver

[@chelbus74]

😂😂😂 нехрен двери открыть самому на светофоре

[@Jens.M]

I don't get it. Isn't London a city were you just can take the next bus in 5min. or so? Whats the problem? If the driver doesn't feel save then its better so

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Entitled egoist with huge feeling for self importance, had to be on this bus. 🤡

[@PrakashPatel-ie2fi]

Time tfl told passengers how to behave with bus drivers

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

TFL can barely manage their trains with all the delays. The buses are somehwere far away in the mud under the TFL radar. They are essentially throwing money hoping to keep London moving. Its up to the drivers to keep some decent standard and not allow people to smoke, drink, sleep, write graffiti, fight and what not on the bus.

[@johnmills7716]

Never had this problem back in the days of the old Routemaster buses. No doors, people hopped on and off the back away from bus stops, and nobody cared. No angry drivers stopping the bus in the road or taking it out of service.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

And no one bothered to read the description of the video

[@pharoahegypt]

while i get that noone should get a free ride, this driver has inconvenienced the rest of his passengers for the sake of being bloody minded. there was no need to turn off the bus and create more than it was.

[@NowhereNowHere-hp5fq]

Read decrtiption, because now it seems like u have negative iq.

[@DaveyBoy2k11]

The driver hasn't done anything wrong the person who LET them self's on while the bus was at a red light is 1 unsafe and 2 illegal

[@user-yx6ry5ow2r]

Why not, it was the guy who jumped on the bus at fault.

[@heene]

Classic example of you can't please all of the people all of the time. it is impossible in that job.

[@ahuman9143]

the guy who got on the red light payed as well...

[@taficegaming]

People are so disrespectfull in London you should move up north we are nicer people than some of the people in London

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

London is the arm pit of the country. That's why it have skyscrapers, so people don't live down with the rest of the filth.

[@noooo_safechat2589]

why work in london if THIS causes you to feel unsafe?

[@999soareagle]

Ridiculous....really ridiculous. Life was never in danger.

[@mitchellgiffard1978]

There was no verbal language or threatening behaviour bit out of proportion.

[@c3othejambos237]

Bus driver should of let the person in at bus stop instead of looking at him 6hen drive away

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

That will be 50£ charge. Tranfer in my account and I will serve the same bus stop 2 times.

[@devon896]

Not giving out your driver number and saying you aren't a public servant, I can't help thinking you caused a lot of the aggravation rather than solving it.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

I am not allowed to provide that information. If I provide it I will be fired.

[@dagon5978]

of course this type of skin is loud and aggresive

[@cristianoronaldoronaldo6561]

i'm on the bus drivers side with the whole thing

[@ik.ldn1]

both are to blame. while its absolutely ridiculous for the passenger to do that knowing the dangers it holds. its also not worth the innocent people waiting because the driver wants to be tough

[@DMHS77]

Driver doesn't want to be tough. He's sticking to his training & the rules of his employment. Why would he risk his job for a bunch of ignorant moron passengers? would you do the same in your job?

[@mitchellgiffard1978]

​@@DMHS77agreed but 1 person not anyone else on the bus that had to get off.

[@Pyro914]

Eine Frage könnte da kein Bus fahren in Deutschland lernt man Bus fahren bei euch anscheinend nicht

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

No matter where in the world you are. You can either deal with thugs or you can't.

[@user-kv1fy5ts2t]

The driver did worng he should not be filming people with out there ssay so he is in the wrong and he should respect people private life

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

While in public you cannot have expectations for privacy. Private life is not on the PUBLIC bus.

[@srdcro]

Rules are rules and we have to respect them, but we are also humans, and we need to have more respect for each others before the rules, that's why I think that the driver is to blame here.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

The driver have the right to drive. If I want to enter the bus, I dont need his approval. This sentence makes sense.

[@srdcro]

@@Not-a-Cockroach NO, not at all. The driver has also responsibilities, moral responsibility, not only rights. But you aviously don't care about responsabilities.

[@Prabssagoo]

@srdcro Agreed

[@bluechang08]

@@Not-a-Cockroach You certainly do need the drivers approval to board the bus - the bus is under his/her authority and you do as you are told when you are onboard for your safety as its the drivers livelihood you are imacting when you don't. The driver has rules and regulations to follow, in order to ensure the safety of all passengers. This involves the operation of the buses doors when at authorised stopping point. You, as a passenger do not have the right to open the doors to the bus whilst the bus is not at a designated bus stop, in the same way as you do not have the right to open a trains doors as it is about to leave the stations platform. If anything were to happen to a passenger who has opened the doors without the drivers authorisation and the bus moves and puts that passenger under the wheels, who exactly do you think is going to get in trouble - the passenger or the driver? It certainly won't be the passenger. There was a case of a train guard in Liverpool about 10 years ago being imprisoned for a few years after a drunk woman fell against the train as it was departing from the platform - he was found negilgent even though he could do nothing to stop the woman falling against the train (apart from pull the emergency brake)

[@DMHS77]

Why? The passenger who boarded the bus didn't respect the rules & the drivers job could be at risk for allowing him to board unsafely like that. Also, the other passengers showed the driver no respect by shouting at him to just drive, so feck them. Driver was completely in the right. The entitlement from some of the commenters here is incredible! Assume the people who make these 'driver should have just got on with it' comments don't work with the public or for an employer who enforces rules to the letter. I wouldn't risk my job for any of them either. Fair play to the driver.

[@ahuman9143]

I aint paying £1.75 for a waiting room I'm paying to get home what if someone's family member was in hospital or an emergency like that I don't care you aren't getting payed enough to be doing this

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Yea what if Inhad recieved a call that a family member was in hospital or in an emergency. Passengers shall be more compassionate towards me. I agree.

[@INNOURIDDINE]

using the emergency exit button is annoying just wait for a bus you lazy mf.

[@icermanz]

Then you get an uber you mug, not public transport what do you think this is 😂

[@kai-matthiasbast8612]

Why tf would you be on a london bus during a family emergency🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@kai-matthiasbast8612 You shall travel more often on buses to see the things people say.

[@tobiasjenkins2427]

He driven to far as i would turn the corner & just stop & wait for police 🚔 & terminate the service this driver is demented as should not driven as far and now he will look like a pratt next time should stop at safe location then wait for police as your on pay and laugh & agree with the customers who wants to argue the best way

[@TheArkamedBat]

Are you telling the driver how to do its job?

[@Phoji]

@@TheArkamedBat his*

[@FattyOn2Wheels]

the driver is at fault

[@gavc21]

no he isn't. policy is policy

[@lerox89]

he clearly is

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

There are many drivers that will allow you to disrespect them and treat them badly. All they want is to get to the end of their day with as few conflicts as possible and go home to their family. I on other hand love conflicts, especially when I know that my word is the final about the bus moving or staying. And because my word is final and I am covered by the rules in place, rules which the police will enforce if I request, I love to ensure that the bad passengers are reminded, that they are passengers on the bus that I am driving. As you can see from my videos, they can scream, shout, swear at me but I don't care. They will get off the bus and if they refuse, then everyone gets off the bus. At the end of the day, no one should be disrespected at their work place. People should actually show respect to the people that provide vital services to the community. I as bus driver am responsible for the lives and safety for thousands of people every day. You however are responsible for nothing close to the scale that I do. So yes, if you disrespect me you are out, because the responsibility I bear is greater than your work place responsibility and I wont allow you to make my day worst and endanger the people that will come in the bus after you. You can be egoist, thinking that "I pay ticket, I am the king", but no you are just a passenger, allowed on this bus, not because of the ticket you pay, but because I am allowing it. If you disrespect me, you are no longer allowed. If you complain about my decision, you are no longer allowed. There are rules, covering my ass, so my employer wont even speak with me about it.

[@gcharada52]

2 wrongs don't make things right. Once you pay your ticket and there is an emergency, the company must accommodate the passengers on the next vehicle without additional cost. Also, he is obliged tô give his name. He is a public servant under a private company. Other thing, he cannot say that he decides this or that. He should have asked the jerk passenger to leave the bus at the next stop, not making everyone leave. I hope they file a lawsuit against this idiot, that even posted the video to incriminate himself.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@gcharada52 PAYING FOR YOUR TICKET IS YOUR INSURANCE IN CASE OF ACCIDENT SO YOUR NAME IS REGISTERED AS PERSON ON BOARD. As I have stated in the video. I am contractor, not TFL employee or public servant. It's stated clearly in the rules I am NOT obligated to provide my identity to passengers. I as driver alone decide if it's safe to continue this journey or not. TFL is aware of the antisocial behavior toward drivers, therefor rules are put in place, where a driver will almost never 99.99999% of the time be hold accountable for refusing to drive for safety reasons. And if the bus stays on a bus stops for 3 minutes and the issue is not resolved, the bus terminates. Terminating the service is actually an obligation and if I don't terminate I can be in trouble. A single passenger speaking to the driver, can be considered distraction, making the journey unsafe. On this trip there were 3+ people who distracting me from driving. Never get in an argument with a bus driver since he got every right to stop driving, the moment you say a word and have obligation to terminate in 3 minutes. Red buses aren't obligated to provide you with replacement journey or ticket or to accommodate anything. You paying ticket means nothing.

[@JB-Thatisme]

Bus driver is completely in the right 💯 There is a bit of blind spot on the left that is just left of the door if approaching from a certain angle. The driver sets off and the idiot gets dragged under the bus and most likely killed 🤷🏻‍♂️ The public will tend to turn on the driver because they know they can't retaliate. Not got the bollocks to turn on the person who's ruined their journey. I Wouldn't even have engaged with that African fella..like knocking on dense wood.

[@leedavies3629]

Bloody stupid when we had the old buses in the 80ts 90ts you cud just jump on and off anywhere don’t know why the driver did not just let him on 🇬🇧✌️

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Because TFL can revoke the license of the company if an accident happens, because of it. When we speak about multimillion company losing license passengers can go frack off.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Also back in the old days it was assumed that you have common sense to keep yourself alive and if you die that was not big deal. Now days people have no common sense and we must make sure they don't kill themselves.

[@user-ge5fu7gf9f]

Should learn to drive 😂

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

Get license, buy bus, drive.

[@thegrowl2210]

Guy ruins everyone’s evening, refuses to do his job, and additionally sits there blocking the road for no reason other than his ego. W⚓️

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

At no point did I refused to to my job and buses do stop at bus stops, that's how they work.

[@shawnweir4894]

However after the situation was cleared you sat in the bus stop blocking another bus when you could of left the stop and when you finally did you turned your wheel too soon almost hitting the other buses mirror , you should of continued straight then turned to go around the parked car , you then served a few more stops and everytime you was too far from the curb , you can see the yellow line at the open door and elderly passengers can trip because you are too far from curb , you should not be driving a bus you are too scared to drive through gaps , and before you ask yes i have been driving buses for 21 years and have driven in ealing too .

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@shawnweir4894 no matter my position the double decker was past the middle of my bus. Because he was overtaking me with incoming cars he chose to drive too close to my bus because he was like you not afraid to go close. Because of how close he was as you said his mirror was too close to me. Serving bus stops as you should know the rule is to stop reasonable close. 20cm is reasonably close in most situations. If the other bus driver was not so confident he could make it, he wont be stuck, but his confidence about driving too close made him stuck. And you tell me getting stuck is a good thing?

[@user-xf9cl6jj1t]

African is Africa Forest people's.

[@navaue]

Amin Ullah

[@lance941]

Tf this gotta do with Africa

[@mrbari3132]

The driver is at 100% fault. He’s just stupid and thinks that he owns the bus just being a driver. His job is to drive passengers from A to B. He’s no one to decide whether he will be driving or not. That’s his job. It’s very simple. If you don’t wanna drive just leave the job and someone can take your place i.e., people who really want to work instead of time wasters like this one who just wastes time of his own and other people who’s been working all day in this cold weather and wants to get back home.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

The owner is of the bus is the company. Not the passengers or the driver. The job of a driver is not getting from A to B, especially a driver that drives vehicle that is 6+ tons. The job is not simple, that's why not everyone have license to do it. It doesn't matter if I drive or not since according to my contract I get paid anyway and no one wants this job since it's not simple. As said before no one wants this job since it's not simple and people don't have the patience to deal with these situations. At the end of the day The rules are there to ensure this work place is worth staying at and to ensure there are drivers to move the passengers that really are here to travel and not cause trouble.

[@mrbari3132]

@@Not-a-Cockroach Bro don’t try and act smart. Been a bus driver for 10 years on route 286. A job of a bus driver is to get passengers from A to B. Don’t try and put your stupid explanation in front of me cuz it won’t work. Passengers pay to get on the bus and that’s how tfl makes money and at end of the day your wages are paid out of that. Keep your stupid smartness to yourself cuz you can’t get anywhere at least with me. Been with Tfl for years.

[@mrbari3132]

@@Not-a-Cockroach If I had your mentality probably I would’ve ended having fights with passengers each and every day. It’s just that you’re a child and need to grow up.

[@mrbari3132]

@@Not-a-Cockroach Also bro my 17 year old daughter works in retail and she knows better how to deal with customers at least much better than you. At least she knows how to ignore people who are of least importance in life. Don’t show me rules bruv. Just to give you a little heads up of your so called rules cuz you think you’re the best law abiding citizen well clearly you’re not. Once you indicate and move away from the curb then only you’re not supposed to stop as it’s not safe to do so. You literally just indicated right and didn’t even move a meter away from the curb when that passenger wanted to get on. You could’ve easily indicated left again and opened the door and let that person in. Bruv you don’t even know what danger is. I’ve had fights breaking up inside the bus where people pulled out knifes and finally in that situation we have to call the police. This is an example of danger. Not something silly as someone gets on the bus at the red traffic lights. I don’t know who trained you up but in this scenario even if there was an accident it wouldn’t have been your fault cuz the passenger pressed the button and forcefully got on the bus. You don’t know nothing of the rules bruv. All you know is to make an issue out of nothing.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@mrbari3132 I have passed training in customer service in retail, I have passed training and am certified Security Guard as well as Lory and Bus driver with CPC for both. No one will bully me around or be behaving like kid at my work place. I have been chased by 10+ people to beat me, because I beat one of their buddies one on one, so I know what danger is. When push comes to shove they will not win, because I will not lose. I got the rules to back me up, the police to back me up and I got all the evidence to prove my actions are proper. I don't care if you like my actions or not, the moment you disrespect me while I am driving, I will ensure you aren't a passenger on my bus. I have met some of the trouble makers from my videos again, I looked them in the eye as they enter through the front door. They knew that I know them and I am waiting to show them again that, they wont travel with me if they behave like kids. They said nothing. Yes some of the more experienced drivers have even had arguments with an police officer on board about not picking passengers when the indicator is on. We have the right to do it, and we will do it. If you don't like it, buy yourself a car and organize your own journeys in any way you like. But when I am the driver, you will not act like a child. This is my work place and you will not disrespect it.

[@busesaroundmelbourne]

The driver made this a huge scene, blocked traffic and delayed all of the other passengers who hadn’t done anything wrong. Not appropriate behaviour and the way he dealt with other passengers, yelling at them and refusing to tell them his name was also very inappropriate. Even though the person who boarded the bus at the lights may have also been in the wrong, the driver made this a much bigger issue. Not good.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

You having arse for a brain also Not good.

[@SN06BNF]

@@Not-a-CockroachIkr, It’s People Like This Who Think That Drivers Don’t Have Feelings. This Is Why I Respect My Local Route Drivers

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

@@SN06BNF all we want is the passenger to signal us on the bus stop. When in the bus to be civilized until we get then to their stop. Simple

[@ManlykefreshINC]

You’re not supposed to give your name. When you make a complaint, all you need is the following - Route number - Your own self assessed Description of driver - the registration of the vehicle - and where you boarded as well as the time All this information is provided inside and outside of the bus. The driver is good. We are trained not to speak to anyone when put in a situation like this. The more he spoke, the more he entitled them to talk to him anyhow. All you pedestrians, road users and passengers all forget that bus drivers are humans too.

[@DMHS77]

He's sticking to his training & the rules of his employment. Why would he risk his job for a bunch of ignorant moron passengers? would you do the same in your job?

[@ambimu55hak]

Bloody hell you terminated the whole service and inconvenienced everyone else on the bus because you couldn’t handle ONE guy getting on at the traffic lights because you ‘didn’t feel safe driving because of him’??? Then you start going at the other passengers with your ‘I decide this I decide that’. The amount of times while driving buses I had people do silly things like this but you don’t terminate the service just because you get upset and feel like it, grow up mate. ‘In danger and your life is threatened’ What a joke, grow a pair and just drive the bus mate and stop with your hissy fits. I’d hate to think what you’d do if there was an actual emergency on the bus.

[@Not-a-Cockroach]

A bus driver is the person in charge of the bus. Many drivers don't realize that or are too lazy to care. "Operating the emergency door release is a bylaw offense and can be prosecuted". While you are in charge of a bus and you chose to ignore an offender you are enabling and emboldening that person which makes you a person that doesn't care about society and by proxy you support antisocial behavior. I can see from your comment that you don't have active stance and you don't care much about having safe and progressive society that have social rules. The fact that you mention the words "danger" and "life threatened", means that you don't even realize I at no point used these words or even acted on any such thing. As shown in the video there are multiple passengers committing offences as well as confronting me as a bus driver. I don't just stand up to multiple people at the same time, I do so alone ensuring I don't embolden and enable offenders and antisocial behavior. Enabling and emboldening offenders actually damages society. Me not doing it, while causing discomfort to multiple people is a beneficial in the long run since the offenders will think twice next time. Where if I do as you do, enabling and emboldening them, they will keep the antisocial behavior and the offences without second thoughts.

[@PigeonsandCapybaras]

I hate the way society grows around treating Bus Drivers like NPCs, you are a true legend + new subscriber🫡🫡🫡