If you Edge Highlight do THIS!

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Trovarion Miniatures

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@Hurtone
@Hurtone 3 жыл бұрын
This 3-min Tuesday format is by far the best content you have done! All the rest is also good, but this is so digestible and to the point.
@BB-pn2qv
@BB-pn2qv 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Guaranteed_JET
@Guaranteed_JET 2 жыл бұрын
Keep this up
@ashg9023
@ashg9023 2 жыл бұрын
It's great. It's what KZbin used to be
@lloydjamieson2143
@lloydjamieson2143 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a painter you tuber that understands not everyone watching is a award winning painter and we are just simple part time hobbyist
@rhag1394
@rhag1394 3 жыл бұрын
You summarised in three minutes something I've struggled to implement the last three months. Thank you, particularly the curved surfaces part should make edge highlights so much easier in the future
@AYYOFLOCKA
@AYYOFLOCKA 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing that goes really well with this idea is to try and do some drawing/painting of some basic shapes (cylinders, cubes, pyramids etc)it is a really great way to understand how light works, you can then translate that knowledge gained to bring out these sorts of techniques. It really helps as your brain immediately identifies where you would start placing highlights!
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@stormycatmink
@stormycatmink 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. If you really want to up your game, find other arts that do similar things to what you want with your minis. Getting into custom green stuff molding? Try out some basic pottery work. Doing more tactical paint jobs and conversions? Spend some time studying scale military modeling. You won't look at primers the same once you do. There's so much of this hobby that people think are new, which are simply staples of other artists, like oil painters. NMM or OSL? That's just called 'how you paint light' to an oil painter. They've been doing it for literally hundreds of years.
@jpf338
@jpf338 3 жыл бұрын
If I might add my 2 cents. Another thing to add to edge higlighting is dots or specs in the edge that are even brighter, also while edge higlighting you can not hightlight a little stroke along the edge. This will achive variation that is usualy seen in edges that had been dented due to use. Cheers!
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes...perfect! I do it all the time.
@abbasid
@abbasid 3 жыл бұрын
Love your regular format videos but I'm really enjoying these new shorter videos too! Thanks for your hard work and generous teaching!
@youtousim
@youtousim 2 жыл бұрын
Love the engineer's approach of breaking down big tasks into smaller, manageable ones!
@Ian_Butterworth
@Ian_Butterworth 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the short, three-minute, format. Impactful and to the point. Much easier to watch and absorb.
@Richiemouse
@Richiemouse 3 жыл бұрын
These short format videos really are good. So much knowledge imparted so quickly and so concisely 👍
@andrewweber958
@andrewweber958 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really noticing the improvements in your videos. the lighting, the framing and everything. Great video.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 жыл бұрын
lol. I guess it would be funny to talk about lighting on a model and have terribly lighting in the video.
@thedyingmeme6
@thedyingmeme6 2 ай бұрын
Olay youve NAILED something i didnt even know. I didnt realize until NOW, watching this vid that i didnt like GW edge highlights. Damn
@josephcoon5809
@josephcoon5809 2 жыл бұрын
0:45 Just like you don’t learn how to add, then go straight into differential equations… 4:00 Something I stumbled on that may “shed light on the matter” is when I was taking photos during key points in the process. Turning my flash on, I would get a zenithal highlight effect from the flash on a black base coat (my first models were Deathwatch). From there, I would use a bright LED lamp, as my light source, then snap a pictures from various directions. This gave me my own references for shading.
@s33n34
@s33n34 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks a lot - another great Vid! 2 “Questions”: * it would be cool to have a vid where you breakdown research. When I do this I sometimes do get confused / overloaded with information. A breakdown would be great! * do you do trainings / workshops? I’m living in Hamburg and would love to join a f2f training at some point :-)
@MentoliptusBanko
@MentoliptusBanko 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently edge highlighting some Drukhari...this advice sounds useful. I wonder if it will be quicker to paint them this way rather than edge highlighting it the GW way.
@goforitpainting
@goforitpainting 3 жыл бұрын
I like to paint with contrast (lights, colours), but I don't like strong EH. It was nice to see that you don't prefer the extreme version just because a figure is small.
@housecaldwell
@housecaldwell 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this format. I can watch it would the kids are getting ready for bed and sometimes that's all the time I have in a day!
@graefx
@graefx 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried doing this in the past to mixed results. Love seeing it explained so detailed and quickly.
@pushingpigment
@pushingpigment 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these three minute series just as much as your regular videos. Hope that you have a happy new year Christof!
@ArmandDupin
@ArmandDupin 3 жыл бұрын
Since I've started trying to do volumetric highlight, I often have a hard time doing proper edge highlights. Say I paint red and use three or four differents tones from darker to lighter. When I'm done, I've already used my lighter red (or orange, or pink), for contrast. What should I edge highlight with? My lighter colour + some white or yellow?
@nekrataali
@nekrataali 3 жыл бұрын
With red, you'll want to do more shading. Highlighting with white or yellow can make the red look pink or orange. So instead, you'll want to create darker shadows. Taking a saturated (but dark) purple or even something close to black and running it next to the highlights will make the highlights look like a bright red. If you were to do this step-by-step, it would probably look something like: 1) White primer 2) Red midtone basecoat. 3) Red highlight 4) Orange/pink highlight for areas you want to appear as white 5) Dark red in the recesses 6) 50/50 mix of red and black or saturated purple (such as Cadmium Red mixed with Prussian Blue) glaze from the recesses of dark red up to the red midtone. For non-reds, you can usually stick to just using a highlight of lighter colors or by mixing white. The downside of mixing any hue with white is you'll get desaturated tones. You can highlight blue by mixing yellow in a ~90/10 mix, but of course this will make it more of a green shade. For some color schemes (like Thousands Sons, Alpha Legion, RAF uniforms), this can work.
@mikepearse5196
@mikepearse5196 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a mix of ice yellow and white for this case but I also start w a brown or dark purple shadow.
@SpaceVoidVoice
@SpaceVoidVoice 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great format! Thank you!
@scottnorris6529
@scottnorris6529 3 жыл бұрын
Your channel has really taken off. Without a doubt, this is one of the best miniature painting tutorial KZbin channels going. Keep up the good work.
@Westenmensch
@Westenmensch Жыл бұрын
Thats some piece of advice I really needed - thanks for that! On another note: those colours you were using on the Necron and the second (red) Space Marine look pretty much like what I had in mind for a project to come as close to the artwork as possible (if interested: the Kongo Battlefleet for Dystopian Wars). Would you share which exact colours / recepies you were using here? Thanks again and have a nice day :)
@darrenw2
@darrenw2 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! This is so helpful for me as I learn to paint. I’m just about to start my Drukhari combat patrol box which has lots of edges. I’m practicing on an XV25 battle suit and will give this a go! Question: how do you make it brighter it certain areas - less paint, lighter strokes etc?
@CalAndAly
@CalAndAly 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant! As a photographer who is always lighting scenes and subjects, this makes perfect sense! Great work explaining a complex topic in such an accessible way - the mark of a great teacher
@tacitosa9941
@tacitosa9941 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, can you Tell me which colours you use for the Space Marine ? I like it!
@lectric
@lectric 3 жыл бұрын
Loving these short yet highly informative videos!
@Hoonda-m8w
@Hoonda-m8w Жыл бұрын
Hey love your vid ! Question is I really like pink necron you used in your intro pic Was wondering what paint colours where used !!
@trovarion
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
It's a colorshift from the torquise with photoshop. Sorry!
@SpicyRamen0700
@SpicyRamen0700 3 жыл бұрын
What brushes are you using. Looks amazing btw 😻
@boshuka_games
@boshuka_games 3 жыл бұрын
Really great. Short and precise! Ever thought about subtitels in other languages? And is there already a price for 1 school hour online trainings? 1x45 Minutes every week should be fine for 1 season....
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean. There is a feedback pledge level on my patreon for once a month live sessions, but I definitely can't do weekly online classes, simply don't have the time for that.
@kvetro84
@kvetro84 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you find success with this format. While I love your longer stuff these videos are perfect for youtube. Keep at it.
@kgrafty6444
@kgrafty6444 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are great! Please keep ‘em coming.
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 3 жыл бұрын
This may be a weird piece of feedback, but here it goes anyway. In the shots where you are talking to the camera, there is black object in the bottom right of the screen. I (and I assume others) have been conditioned by KZbin to get a 5 second notice before an add starts (right in the same spot and with a small black box overlay). I kept involuntary checking the bottom right, even though I suspected that it wasn't a notification. Maybe consider keeping that corner devoid of small black objects in future video? Ps love these short pieces of advice
@ShintaroMugura
@ShintaroMugura 3 жыл бұрын
I agree "neon highlights" take away from the overall appearance of a miniature. Painting, shapes, lighting, and color theory are all skills, not tricks. If you want the most out of your miniatures you are going to put the work into skills and theories of the hobby. I believe this is the true way to achieve your miniature goals.
@Strider181
@Strider181 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Do you think you will do any terrain building or base enhancing tutorials? Do you get into DIY terrrain building at all? Once I am done painting my pile of shame necron army I think home made terrain and maybe a custom board would be fun to do
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
I have some bases already up on the channel. Terrain I am not sure...I have a hunch people will just tell me it's too complicated for terrain if I go beyond the foam cutting, covering in litter and drybrushing, but we will see.
@Strider181
@Strider181 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion I will be checking out the base videos very soon. All your tutorial vids are very concise and easy to follow and add alot of value for beginners like myself (and probably more veteran painters). So cheers again
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
@@Strider181 thanks!
@versatilebeatsdj
@versatilebeatsdj 2 жыл бұрын
Genius. In 3 minutes it has taught me more than hours of gw tutorials. Break it down to the basics man I love it
@aarongray7966
@aarongray7966 3 жыл бұрын
Love this three minute learning format. Great for a quick tip in between doing this or that.
@sebastianwei7721
@sebastianwei7721 3 жыл бұрын
You‘ll make me paint spacemarines if you go on like this… got some termies that need some love anyway.
@guitardunce7571
@guitardunce7571 2 жыл бұрын
This video showed up at a perfect time for me - new year, new army, and I don't have the patience for longer videos. Really like this.
@dand1789
@dand1789 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Good time invest to go deeper into painting with correct light sources.Maybe more coming in the future?
@ethan_anthem
@ethan_anthem 3 жыл бұрын
If you were to estimate a ratio of "whiteness" that goes n the paint used for the "up-facing" edges vs the "down-facing" edges, what would it be? e.g. 50/50 basecoat/white for up, and 70/30 for down? Curious to hear your response!
@harrymanback3475
@harrymanback3475 3 жыл бұрын
This is a technique i have tried to adopt in recent years. I think it's a great improvement over highlighting every edge. Sometimes however i end up looking at the figure as a whole after it's done and i have highlights at 12 o clock, 1o clock, 11o clock, ect. Is there a technique you use to help prevent this and get more unity across the miniature? Many thanks.
@Fadeing
@Fadeing 2 жыл бұрын
What a great and well done compelling format with the "we're on the clock" element feel to it. You always bring great value in your content. This format seems like a nice focused piece.
@pauldanielmertens
@pauldanielmertens 3 жыл бұрын
this is obviously a great piece of advice for advanced hobbyists and painters, but how much does this affect the way they look on the tabletop? at lower skill levels, this seems like it might work to sacrifice overall contrast for close-up fidelity (?)
@sergeyzaika3320
@sergeyzaika3320 3 жыл бұрын
I love this short format!
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Elfhelm
@Elfhelm 3 жыл бұрын
Great food for thought, definitely something to keep in mind when doing these highlights. Thanks for the video!
@affenbauch
@affenbauch 3 жыл бұрын
Yes-yeeesss! Almighty masterful-artistic Trovarion show-tell man-things edge highlighting in a quick-quick format. So much to learn-try now! Thaaank you, oh great and wise-skillful Trovarion! Me go catch-hunt and bring back my Clan's Rat Ogres now - you scare-surprised and chased them off with that "Whooo!". 😁
@chaoticpainting1507
@chaoticpainting1507 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you get straight to the point and give us good knowledge that helps. This is so useful, I just soak it up and I will try and apply it in my painting from now on. thanks for the tips!
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I'm going to try guessing the edge highlight advice from the thumbnail and title alone. Before watching the video in full, and without reading any comments... Does it have something to do with imagining the specific direction of the light source and understanding the material that your surface is supposed to be? And maybe applying the philosophy, "less is more?"
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
and...your point is? :)
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion I just wanted to make a guess based on my experience with art. More of an experiment, not trying to prove a point.
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
@@taqresu5865 ok, I see :) and was your guess correct?
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion I will be watching the video now.
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion Yeah, I'd say I was pretty close. I was off about the "less is more" point. This is a great video, and I think it's applicable to more than just miniatures.
@simonhjelm6384
@simonhjelm6384 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please paint some admech because im trying to get inspired for my new army, really like your color schemas:)
@miniaturefun-guy
@miniaturefun-guy 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a great Christmas. This is another great video.
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Happy holidays!
@xilconic
@xilconic 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, well done. Both in terms of format, information density and referring to logical next steps at the end of the video. Kudo's!
@oliverwarren1074
@oliverwarren1074 3 жыл бұрын
1:30 the 3 minutes starts here :)
@RisingApe
@RisingApe 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, first time I have dipped in for a while, the production level has reached another level, awesome
@kookyrobot
@kookyrobot 3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@hewlett-packardlovecraft2297
@hewlett-packardlovecraft2297 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. You've been able to put into words something that I've been trying to emulate forever with my painting. The key word there, though, is trying. But that's just where I'm at in the process. While I've always liked the 'ol GW style of painting as far as an all-around good looking mini goes, or a solid tabletop standard, I've never really thought it belonged on a miniature meant for serious critique of artistic ability as a whole. I know that sounds kind of snobbish, and I can't stress enough that's not the message I'm trying to convey- it's just that no matter how good you are at painting in that style, that's just it- it's THEIR style. Sure you can bring your own thing to it, but if you're going for that anyway, why not just try to refine your own style? I suppose that's the point I'm trying to make here. And I think doing that means studying all aspects of your subject, and learning how to paint each individual part of it to the best of your ability. Sorry about the wall of text there- this video just addresses a point that not just I, but I'm sure many painters try to grapple with in their journey to becoming a better painter overall; and not outlining every single edge on the model in the same intensity of color is a great place to start. Thanks again for the video, and have a great week.
@ScaleHangar182
@ScaleHangar182 2 жыл бұрын
Damn mate, this channel is awesome. Im just starting with 40k anddidnt paint a single figure yet but i will try to take that all advice and try my best when i start painting my spacewolves. Cheers!
@seeleve
@seeleve 3 жыл бұрын
These short videos are very approachable and helpful. Looking forward for the next one. Cheers.
@jonmandelbaum5395
@jonmandelbaum5395 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed
@ForgeWorldFocus
@ForgeWorldFocus 3 жыл бұрын
How is your paint so directly applied and not either too watery or thick? I thin my paints out but I find that it makes my highlighting look wet and splashy.
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
I recommend watching my edge highlight video, pretty sure I go over dillution an getting rid of excess paint there!
@ForgeWorldFocus
@ForgeWorldFocus 3 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion cheers m8, thanks for the quick reply :)
@TabletopUpgrades
@TabletopUpgrades 3 жыл бұрын
These are so well produced. Amazing dude, well done.
@mot0573
@mot0573 3 жыл бұрын
I really love this short tip format. Thank you!
@ruvenjunge4403
@ruvenjunge4403 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! I recently bought the Raphael 8404, Size 1 brush and got it on the weekend. When painting the hairs are splitting apart and the tip is no tip anymore after only a few strokes. Has anyone experienced this and can give me some advice. It was like this from the beginning.
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
I never had a brush like that. One thing ypu can try is wash it thorougly with soap, maybe some of the preserver is still in there. Then soak it in brushsoap over night, clean it next day and form a tip. If it's still crap after that, send it back have them send you a replacement, this shouldn't happen.
@ruvenjunge4403
@ruvenjunge4403 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion Thanks! I'll try that. Hope it works...
@redrooster7371
@redrooster7371 3 жыл бұрын
I like these short videos. Very helpful tips!
@wwagoner
@wwagoner 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a MUSIC mix for painting! Every track on your vids SLAP!
@Dearion89
@Dearion89 3 жыл бұрын
My strategy has always been "edge is hard to reach, it doesn't get a highlight" 😁
@nocturnenoble2468
@nocturnenoble2468 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and passion.
@terryramsey5979
@terryramsey5979 2 жыл бұрын
Greta tip, loving this new 3 minute Tuesday series!
@claesmorin2216
@claesmorin2216 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect, thanks! I like the variation in both the longer videos and the short concise ones
@jpmegr1715
@jpmegr1715 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid Trovarion. The examples and explanation were excellent
@SkelliwagJones
@SkelliwagJones 3 жыл бұрын
@grouchy88
@grouchy88 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo, your ultimate edge highlighting video wasnt ultimative in the end? 🤔 Love your content and really hope you can make it work as a fulltime job 🤞
@2thre3
@2thre3 Жыл бұрын
And the same in reverse for shadows.
@CoryG1981
@CoryG1981 3 жыл бұрын
another great vid which I was able to learn new stuff , keep up the great work you teach so well
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid mate. I know a few of these situational tricks to use but nowhere near enough of them. Subbed.
@travelminipainter
@travelminipainter 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content and format! More of those, bitte, danke!
@olemlund
@olemlund 2 жыл бұрын
I actually prefere the top down aproche, when you go to more detail then that I looks good on a picture, but as soon as your units start to move in different directions, it just looks strange having a million different suns in the sky. 😅
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
Does "up" change if you turn a mini?
@olemlund
@olemlund 2 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion Last steps looked like it had a bit of an angle to it, not just up.
@MrGibjab
@MrGibjab 3 жыл бұрын
The woo scared me haha
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
GOTTEM!
@shmello_
@shmello_ 3 жыл бұрын
same thing happened to me lol
@ranozthe
@ranozthe 3 жыл бұрын
Great format! Looking forward to the next one!
@saltedllama2759
@saltedllama2759 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always!
@epicwaba6424
@epicwaba6424 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot stress how much I enjoy this format. Your more complex videos, such as that Blood Angel you showed, may contain more information. But this short and precise format makes it more easy to implement, especially for beginners like me. In my opinion, this should be a staple on your channel alongside your traditional content. Even just a few more to ease into complex ideas would be massively useful. Perhaps the 3 minute limit isn't strictly necessary, but this information being so concise helps it be much more digestible and easy to implement in small steps as you said.
@commentingisdangerous7530
@commentingisdangerous7530 3 жыл бұрын
i subscribed and hit the bell after watching this video, great job, thank you and i look forward to exploring your channel more.
@kingremus7544
@kingremus7544 3 жыл бұрын
In love with this video Series, keep it up
@slobiden.2593
@slobiden.2593 2 жыл бұрын
My tip that helped me is. Remove more paint from your brush. My highlights were too thick. If I removed more paint i would worry they’d be too thin. So what if they’re too thin. Do it again.
@thegigantico
@thegigantico 3 жыл бұрын
there isnt too much high quality 3-5min content in this nieche. this is a very good format, chris!
@andraslibal
@andraslibal 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. I will apply this to my Moon Clan set that I am currently painting (Rising Sun board game). Thank you very much.
@kendo5862
@kendo5862 3 жыл бұрын
great wee inspiring tutorial on lighting!
@diamend85
@diamend85 2 жыл бұрын
can you put all of those 3min mini tutorials in one playlist please?
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
They are all in a playlist my dude
@daviddelossantos6075
@daviddelossantos6075 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip and very succinct. Subscribed.
@timothysmith7364
@timothysmith7364 2 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful! Thank you!
@alexa-b
@alexa-b 3 жыл бұрын
@timberknuckle8281
@timberknuckle8281 2 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic. Ty for all your insights Trov
@trovarion
@trovarion 2 жыл бұрын
what is the problem you have?
@Hello-1814
@Hello-1814 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thx for this!👍
@DD-lm1gv
@DD-lm1gv 2 жыл бұрын
excellevt
@crigboy
@crigboy 2 жыл бұрын
This is really good. Quite a simple change from what a lot of people are already doing. Also in many cases trying to do this will be LESS work!
@mdrumt
@mdrumt 3 жыл бұрын
Pale sand?
@kevinhayes517
@kevinhayes517 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another outstanding (and very quick) tutorial….it shows me how to get significantly better edge highlights that I probably wouldn’t have figured out on my own - thanks again!
@bettsdn
@bettsdn 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible summary
@davidstone-haigh4880
@davidstone-haigh4880 3 жыл бұрын
Cracking vid. Top tips. More please.
@Tomcat_Coyote
@Tomcat_Coyote 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to painting but it piqued my attention . Your table is set very high when you paint , not a comfortable height by any normal standard , but i assume that for long painting sessions , it helps alleviate the lower back pain that you get by being constantly bent forward over a regular desk ?
@trovarion
@trovarion 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hunching over kills my back. Normally i would paint leaning back into my chair, but thats not possible when filming
@Tomcat_Coyote
@Tomcat_Coyote 3 жыл бұрын
@@trovarion It's good to know even for us hobbyists ! I'll keep that in mind for the future :)
@stevekimble7665
@stevekimble7665 3 жыл бұрын
This is a video style you should foster and build upon. I really like the new approach a lot my friend. You've made very good adjustments that complement your teaching style.
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