If You Want to Follow Jesus: Go To James the Just

Fortunately various students of the early Jesus movement are coming to realize the paramount importance of James, the brother of Jesus, thanks to the work of Robert Eisenman and others in the past two decades. In this reading I offer an overview of the Peter, Paul, and James, nexus and how it most likely can be sorted out--giving James his proper place--largely lost and forgotten.
The full quotation of the Gospel of Thomas reads:
"The disciples said to Jesus: "We know that you will go away from us. Who is it who shall be great over us?" Jesus said to them: "Wherever you have come, you will GO TO JAMES THE JUST, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being." Logia 12.
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[@ncarmstron]

I’m only now (age 74) beginning to understand the important place James the Just should have in the history of Christianity. Thank you Prof. Tabor!

[@neilhundtoft4873]

Well sir, in another month I turn 79 and I am sharing with you this terrific discovery of James, Jesus' brother. I've been spending a lot of time with the Gospel of Thomas in the process. It seems to me that because it recommends going to James about questions, the text of the Gospel of Thomas must itself reflect what James was saying and promoting. Because of that, I'm feeling like the Gospel of Thomas is the place for me to learn more about James' thinking. That is proving fruitful to me. In any case, the best to you in your continued studies and ponderings. Peace. Neil

[@Isaac5123]

@@neilhundtoft4873 God Bless you. Continue praying to God directly like Jesus did. Thete is only One God

[@Ibelievethegospel]

The book of James is talking to the twelve tribes, James 1:1 James a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. Jesus sent apostle Paul to preach the gospel for us today in the dispensation of grace. The gospel of our salvation is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Ephesians 2:8-9. 2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workmen that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. We’re not Isreal, we’re the body of Christ. Praise the Lord our God for his grace, mercy and peace.

[@Bang_ALchannel]

If james take place in christian hystory there will no pauline christians

[@Ammeeeeeeer]

Ah, James Tabor talking about James the Just, that's what I'm here for!

[@dairyqueue]

James, just talking about James the just, is just what I wanted!

[@lindaliestman4397]

I have been interested in James’ place in Christianity and that of the family for many years, and have been aware of this discussion. It is, however, interesting to get James Tabor’s view on it and to confirm what I learned 20 years ago backed by updated information. When people ask me if I am a Christian, I often comment that I am more of a Jesus Christian than a Pauline Christian. If Jesus is God’s man on earth, and he is the way, the truth and the light, then why is most of the New Testament about Paul, who never knew or met Jesus while he was alive, spent perhaps a couple weeks with Peter and James, who did not take well to him, and was sent off to talk to the Gentiles, where he made up his own theology as he went along. I have always questioned if some of the texts attributed to Paul were written by or truly attributed to Paul. 2000 years later, it is very difficult to get close to the fountain of truth and knowledge concerning a the origins of Christianity. The Church certainly did spin it to a different advantage, which helped to control the masses for a very long time. These days many people have curiosity and want to get closer to truth. Christianity needs to be updated if it is to survive another 100 years, let alone 2000 years. Christian denominations break apart over some simple ideas, so that today there are between 43,000 and 45,000 denominations world wide.

[@termination9353]

There is no James the Just. There is James the Less.

[@Isaac5123]

@@lindaliestman4397 God Bless you

[@Messianic12777]

Same😂

[@OneEpicEric]

Was driving through my local town last week and saw a rainbow over a church dedicated to St James. It really stood out and today I came across this video.

[@johnrathbun2943]

James has always been my favorite book in the Bible. It gets right down to the basics of Christianity. Its like looking into a mirror. Self reflection. 😊

[@markmiller897]

I love learning from this man. I have a habit of researching things that I hear to determine truth. I learned quickly that it was a waste of time with Dr. Tabor. I never found anything he said to be wrong. He's even unbiased in his guesses in my opinion. I truly value his thoughts and opinions on anything in biblical history.

[@randomreviews1461]

God has built us to search for truth

[@Jake-zc3fk]

Most, and I do mean most, Christians do not want to follow Jesus, they want to worship Jesus, it’s just easier!

[@danmcqueen5295]

And that's the difference. James was about following, and Paul was about believing.

[@ronchappel4812]

Great comment! I must remember that one

[@ritawing1064]

Nicely put!

[@familyaccount4919]

Truthful Kindness here. I have been very interested in “James the Just” for about 15 years. THANKS for further addressing this topic.

[@shanejohns7901]

If you have researched it for 15 years, then you probably already know about this one. But for the sake of those who may not yet know about this book from Robert H. Eisenman: "James the Brother of Jesus: The Key to Unlocking the Secrets of Early Christianity and the Dead Sea Scrolls Paperback - March 1, 1998"

[@DN-kf4gg]

@shanejohns7901 Ooooh thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered it.

[@Traplicano]

As a convert to Islam from Paulianity. Your work is phenomenal and reinforces my faith. Thankyou for your unapologetic truthfulness and helping us understand the true Jesus

[@giovanni545]

please know islam was made about 600 years after the resurection of YAHUSHA (JESUS) and also Muhammed try commiting suicide after visitation from the suppose angel Gabriel. which leads me to belive it wasent the angel Gabriel that visited Muhammed but it was satan himself masquerading as a angel of light to decieve Muhammed to make islam to conquer the world.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

If you realize the murderer Paul is false why do you accept the murderer Mohammad? Islam teaches that Jesus was not even crucified at all.

[@pigemperor]

also i dont think of jesus would endorse a warlord and pfile (looking at u too prosperity gospel preaching warlord evangelicals .. was a wae​@@ChristinaFromKZbin

[@T-19-]

⁠​⁠@@ChristinaFromKZbinGospel of Basilides, letters of Ignatius of Antioch refuting early Christians who believed Jesus did not die, Hebrews 5:7 corresponding to Jesus’ cry to be saved when he was being crucified, some Gnostic texts say Simon of Cyrene replaced Jesus on the cross. This shows that the Islamic position is not foreign to even Christianity.

[@ChristinaFromYoutube]

@@T-19- Jesus died and was raised from the dead by YHVH because the promise is that those who do not sin will live. Death could not hold the sinless man even when he was murdered because he was without sin and YHVH keeps his promise that the righteous will not die.

[@LyleFrancisDelp]

I absolutely agree with Eisenman. I think Paul took the movement in a new, and wrong, direction.

[@AR-tb9hq]

agreed, Paul was a Greek that tried to appease the Roman public and inserted proto-pagan beliefs to align Christianity more towards the tastes of the Roman populace

[@annwilson-rawi3760]

@@AR-tb9hq Paul was a Greek speaking Jew of the Tribe of Benjamin he was also a Roman citizen and a Pharisee. I have thought for a long time that he deliberately or otherwise led Christians astray. It’s frightening how many Christians quote his writings rather than the Four Gospels. It’s as if they don’t care to focus on Christ who after all told us he is the only way to the Father.

[@anthonyfootball80]

@@annwilson-rawi3760 four gospels? What exactly are the four gospels Matthew mark Luke John

[@digenesakritas1107]

Paul might have taken it in the wrong direction but who's to say that Christianity would have survived under James's right direction? Paul spread Christianity to the Gentiles maybe under James it would have only remained a Jewish movement much like the Samaritans. Say what you want against Paul but even in his flawed sort of way he made Jesus known to the world.

[@Isaac5123]

Absolutely agree

[@j2shoes288]

"find James and you find Jesus" Robert eisenman

[@Isaac5123]

Absolutely agree. So called Christians are following Paul and the church. They are deluded and misled

[@patanthony9286]

In my seventh time of returning to Yehovah God and Yeshua ha Messiach I found in James 4:7-10 to be the true understanding and knowledge of a return that showed to be true with the evidence of the devil running away from me and his sin that he loans and even teaches how to multiply the sin even runs away with him This teaching of James is not just a read but a physical doing , standing and submitting yourself to Yehovah God, resisting the devil and knowing the heart is now cleansed and the hands are washed, drawing near to the Father and the Father drawing near to you, humbling yourself and waiting for our Father to lift you up, resisting the devil is telling him that he is no longer your father or cruel slave master and that you are no longer his son or ignorant slave, the Spirit of holiness will be present and this is what causes the devil to run and your name written in the heavens

[@Vina_Ravyn]

Excellent video. Speaking of how "the church" reacted ... it became a cult. The book of Acts makes that abundantly clear. The story of Ananias and Saphira. Dr. Tabor, you should cover that one. Most definitely.

[@blacktwitterforlaughs4743]

Your scholarship is just amazingly great. Continue with the Non Bias Narrative. Even us Muslim are attracted by it. We love you for the sake of Allah. Peace be upon you. ❤️

[@benjaminfranklinkivettiv9433]

Dr Tabor. I really enjoy your reading!! Ty

[@uncleambient]

Thank you Dr Tabor for anther excellent video.

[@Isaac5123]

Very interesting. Thank you Dr Tabor

[@daviniaalice]

Popped up on my youtube and I'm delighted! Excellent, it seems fake news goes back a long way! Subscribed and looking forward to your other videos : )

[@neilhundtoft4873]

Notice that the words: “You are to go to James the just...” from saying #12 of the Gospel of Thomas are advice given in the present tense. This suggests an early authorship for the Gospel of Thomas. My reading of the Gospel of Thomas is that it supports a non-apocalyptic movement of living in the here and now. This message, it appears to me, is what Jesus originally taught and that James then continued. In the Gospel of Thomas, there's no mention of sin, resurrection or a coming judgment. This stuff appears to have been added to an earlier message and has come into the Bible through Quelle (I'm ready to argue) who borrows from and often corrupts Thomas' text to suit their apocalyptic program. I'd love to see anyone's evidence that I'm wrong about this, but the more I look and compare, the more I'm persuaded of it. Ahead of time, I thank you for your growth-promoting correction; otherwise, we can celebrate together this alternative way to freedom to which Thomas (and James) point. Peace. P.s.: It's fun to notice that Paul quotes Thomas Saying #17 at 1st Corinthians 2:9 and even says: “As it is written....” to introduce it. Looks like Thomas had to be written sometime before 50CE.

[@YaelSharon3410]

Thomas saying #17 and 1 Corinthians 2:9 is quote from Isaiah 64:4

[@neilhundtoft4873]

@@YaelSharon3410 Thanks for sharing this idea. I've heard that asserted by someone else too. Here's what makes me question it. Isaiah 64:4 uses some of the same words as Thomas #17, but only a few of them. Paul's words at 1 Corinthians 2:9 duplicate Thomas' words precisely though omitting one line). Isaiah 64 is a prayer for God's deliverance, which inserts a bit of flattery to encourage God's assistance. The prophet is bragging that “No one has ever seen any other God do anything comparable to the amazing things You have done for us! So You can deliver us again, if You are but willing.” is how I understand that passage. The promise of being given an unspeakable gift, the point being made by Thomas and quoted by Paul, is totally absent in the Isaiah passage. I would enjoy hearing your thoughts. Peace.

[@ObjectiveEthics]

Thank you for your insight. I have a multitude of questions regarding this theology and would very much appreciate your insight. I believe Paul was so successful at usurping the Christian mythology because he was selling a free pass (so to speak) into "heaven" based on faith exclusively. This would have gone over very well with both Jews and polytheism as both required a great deal of effort (rules and regulations etc). The second reason is totally my own conspiracy theory in which, Paul was a Roman, Roman's grip on Jerusalem, Damascus... Isreal/Judah was tenuous and therefore the Romans actually implanted/supported Paul to difuse the Jewish/Messianic Jewish movement.... Any thoughts on this would be most appreciated.

[@neilhundtoft4873]

Faithfull: Thanks for sharing your thoughts. As you say, with Paul's ministry, people were being offered a ticket to heaven based on faith alone. The simplicity of that approach would have a lot of appeal, especially for any potential converts with no familiarity of the Jewish traditions. Paul's success at winning over converts was in large part due to his target audience. The synagogues were places of conversation and learning which welcomed and attracted non-Jews, gentiles seeking understanding and spiritual edification. Paul's preaching and ministry throughout the empire cherry-picked these “God fearers” away from their synagogues and he thus swelled the ranks of his movement with gentiles who were at the margins of Judaism. I can see how Paul could look like an agent of Rome assigned with a mission to neutralize Judaism. Clearly, the movement Paul started had become totally Romanized and un-Jewish within a generation of his preaching. Here's the thing though. Paul is believed to have been executed in the year 64 CE after a ministry of about 25 years or so. The Jesus movement was just getting started with Paul and was still totally undefined. Rome didn't even notice it. It's those rebellious Jews that were Rome's chronic problem. In the year 68 CE, Rome's solution to the Jewish problem, always favoring the direct over the subtle, was to send over ten legions of soldiers to Israel to wipe Judaism off the face off the earth. They destroyed the temple and decimated the population with over 500,000 perishing in Jerusalem alone. So in a very real sense, both Christianity and post-temple Judaism were born new at this same moment in history. Judaism was tolerated by the Romans because it was recognized to have standing as an ancient religion. Christianity survived by being Roman. Peace@@ObjectiveEthics

[@TreeOnaLake]

I arose from darkness, knowing my origin, and destiny. And darkness spoke: "Proceed no futher, transgressor!" Why? In what, have I sinned against you? Darkness replied: "In that my kingdom is a kingdom of darkness, and no one who lights the torch of knowledge is permitted here! Now, let us extinguish your painful light, that all may return to the peaceful sleep of ignorance." No darkness! Those who sleep your sleep do so only because they are first ignorant of your guile. But of this the savior has warned me. I arise thus, eluding the force of darkness and rejoice to be free from that of worldly ignorance. I arise from Desire, that which causes the natures to mix, and which seeks to awaken in the fleeing soul a fondness those false delights of lignt that it left behind on Earth, so that it might return there. Desire speaks: "Who are you, and whence came you?" I am of the seed of the living Father and do not belong to this world- hinder me not! As I seek but to return to the place from I once came. "I never saw you decending, but now I behold you ascending- what makes you LIE? You are mine!" I saw you, but you did not see me or notice me. You saw nothing but my vesture, and you did not know me. I arise from Ignorance "Where do you think you are going? Do you deserve to enter heaven? In the chains of wickedness you were captive! You are a prisoner, you dare not judge me!" And who are you to judge me so? I have not condemned you. In truth, I was chained to the flesh, though now I am free. I was not recognized. But I have come to recognize that the All is being deconstructed. Both the Earthly elements, and the heavenly ones. I arise to the 4th power, which assumes 7 likenesses: the likeness of the 7 powers: 1-Darkness 2-Desire 3-Ignorance 4-Terror of Death 5-The reign of the Flesh 6-Deluded wisdom of the Flesh 7-The Vengeance of Wisdom These are the 7 wrathful powers. "Whence come you, murderer? Where are you headed, space traveler?" What held me captive has indeed been killed. And what enveloped me has been defeated. And my desire has been extinguished, and ignorance has expired. In the midst of a world I was set free from a world. And freed from a pattern of death, I recieved deliverance from a heavenly prototype; deliverance from the chain of oblivion which passes away. Hence forward, I shall win my way to that repose where no one speaks of time, of season, of age!

[@junepatterson7928]

Thank you for sharing.

[@TalibanSymphonyOrchestra]

Makes me wonder how after being raised by a devout dad and having to attend church every Sunday, as well as religious instructions once a week, that I have never understood one damn bit of any of this.

[@Alephkilo]

Awesome analysis Sir.

[@Bever71]

Enjoyed very much.

[@HeyItsTim]

I only recently, but maybe the last 5-7 years actually started reading my bible. I had been raised in a Baptist church and went into volunteer ministry with the youth's. In reading (over and over), I couldn't help but see the different message that it seemed Paul was bringing than that of what Jesus was teaching. And that the book of James and even 1st John were so similar to what Jesus said. Paul's writing seems to have created a very diverse and argumentative foundation for our beliefs. Something sinister or intentional may be the reason for so much of the "Christian faith" following what Paul wrote. Scary.

[@edwardwalsh5477]

Sorry for the failure of your spiritual leaders to convey to you what the Bible clearly teaches of which they may be ignorant. My comment below should help a lot. The Berean Bible Society has multiple booklets and online pubs that provide detailed explanations for what I present abbreviated below. CHURCH FAILURES Sorry for the all too frequent disparagement of St. Paul and his message despite the obvious (to the discerning reader) supersession (NOT DISTORTION) of the Gospel of the Kingdom (works + faith) by Paul's message of faith in Jesus alone I Cor. 15:1-4. The timing of Paul's message follows the failures (Acts 1-8) of the Gospel of the Kingdom group: financial depletion, Apostles remaining in Jerusalem (not "to all the world") and limited gospel distribution just to Jews Acts 8) and then only by Jewish refugees expelled by Rome to Cyprus, and other locations outside of Israel. INTERPRETATIONS OF LITERATURE As with all writings and rules, the most recent ones are the ones to follow. We don't view every of the deceased to properly administer an estate just the most recent. Paul's Gospel of Grace is the most recent and what we should follow until Jesus returns. Even this professor doesn't seem to get it because, James' theme clearly adds works to God's demands in contrast to the "wholly by Grace" theme (not under the Law - Rom 6) delivered to Saul outside of Israel by Jesus Christ himself in a vision to Paul. It's in the book. The word, Gospel is not English or Hebrew but a transliteration from the Greek the meaning of which is good news. There's lots of good news in the Bible : Noah and family not drowned, one father of Israel by which the World has been blessed and, of course the opportunity for deliverance from sins by love and power of God Himself. That the meaning of gospel in the NT has changed is evident and unarguably true. When we accept that God has changed a failed program for Jews to spread the gospel of the Kingdom to the World into one that accepts all believers in Christ into God's family. Read Romans for new program/gospel and Acts for the description of the transition. Furthermore, While Jesus held himself up to be followed under Kingdom rules, Paul gave advice (after Jews rejected Jesus as resurrected Messiah) to follow him as he followed Jesus Christ. Certainly, much more realizable than to try to follow Jesus to the temple (now closed) to pay the temple tax or to walk on water or "heal them all". When we see the fact of the transition from Gospel of the Kingdom with extravagant promises of healings and guaranteed answers to prayer coupled with a works requirement, then LACK OF healings, answers to prayers, instant death for a lie to the Holy Ghost (Annanias and Saphira) are not problems for us to puzzle over. The instant death event is similar to the Law which demanded fatal stoning for a single violation of a Sabbath cessation violation. And the need for miracles as (failed) signs to Israel has been replaced with the less stringent demand Also note that those who disbelieve Paul's theology are, nevertheless, forced to refer to his letters in order to form a biblically based church: titles of officers, their qualifications and church practices. This seems hypocritical because the church as we know it is TOTALLY ABSENT from the gospel accounts of Jesus' life (favored by most preachers) while our Church life rules come from Paul's writings.

[@privatepilot4064]

Read the first verse in James. Who is it written to? Hebrews. Who will be going through the Tribulation? Hebrews. It’s very important to understand dispensations. This is why it says in 2 Timothy 2:15 “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” All the Word of God is for us, but it all doesn’t apply to us.

[@edwardwalsh5477]

This professor seems to be misleading many readers. Not only with wrongly dividing the Word (and therefore misapplying it) but overlooking the changes God has impressed on Gospel (from general grace and from Kingdom to of Grace) Makes many sick of Christianity. I wonder how many his teachings have mislead and hurt by him and others. @@privatepilot4064

[@georgesparks7833]

Amazing presentation! Truly unique and its overview of historical New testament individuals. Undoubtedly taking a lifetime of passion and the pursuit both in the written word as well as on the ground Archaeologist.

[@noelitoestanislao1244]

Love this Dr. James Tabor, where's the part 2?

[@thedomlife]

James The Just ❤️🔑❤️ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Messianic12777]

Right

[@AbrahamsBridges]

Awesome!

[@davidgagnon7806]

Acts 15 makes it clear that JAMES was making the decisions.

[@elizabeth_777]

Justice is the one real truth. I loved James for that. 😁

[@teena4rl211]

Excellent

[@AcerbusFive]

Thank you.

[@Robert_L_Peters]

Thank you very much

[@SweetKel]

Wow, James! This is fantastic. I'll go back to the videos you did around this same time and hopefully find more info. Is this from a particular one of your books? I need to acquire it.

[@xifangyangren9997]

Part 2! Part 2!

[@Shelama]

I’m not persuaded by Dr. Tabor but his posit is at least possible and plausible. With Crossan at the other end, he book-ends the possibilities, and makes the reading of the Gospels and the invention and early history of Christianity far more interesting. For the historical Jesus and that invention, Dr. Tabor is a breathe of fresh air and makes the whole thing both interesting and challenging again.

[@robindesbois1551]

The fact to separate Jesus family from him is to make Jesus a divine person and link him to God's family. .

[@benjaminmontag6540]

As the brother of the dead anointed one, did James assume the title of potential Davidic ruler? Did he preach that now it was his responsibility to do the political and supernatural duties of a Messiah, or was there a James version of second coming?

[@mitcheymitch5498]

In the book of Thomas..The disciples said to Jesus, " We understand that you will depart from us.Who will guide us?".. Jesus replied to them, " Wherever you are, go to James the Just, for the sake of whom heaven and earth emerged."

[@privatepilot4064]

Just keep in mind that it was written to the 12 tribes of Israel. James 1:1 “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.”

[@retribution999]

Where is part 2?

[@WilliamDohertyIII]

Is it possible that they chose Luke and Acts, knowing that they down played James and the rest of Jesus's family as a way to protect the family line in some way? Though maybe not...what ya think?

[@lhl9010]

I have wondered if someone with a vested interest in the movement removed information about James to position themselves better,

[@Jason-vf2mj]

In the book of Thomas it also says Go To James the just,what is accepted and not. Hmmm.

[@Samuel-lv4of]

Sorry James is fully Human. But OUR GOD Almighty. OUR LORD Jesus CHRIST. Fully divine. AMEN

[@torjusekkje6264]

Hva mener du med apocolyptic movement?

[@jeffmacdonald9863]

It's an interesting perspective and it certainly does seem clear that James was leader of Jesus movement after his death. What's less clear is why. In addition to Luke minimizing his role in Acts, did all the Gospel writers basically take him out of their stories? Or was he truly not particularly involved in the movement before Jesus's death? In the modern world, where we put less emphasis on blood ties, is there any reason to think that James was the best person to carry on Jesus's teachings? That he had the best understanding of the message? And as a side note, you emphasize Jesus (and thus James) as a descendant of David and thus of the royal line. Is there any evidence of that as a belief in the earliest days? IIRC, it's introduced in two different forms by Luke and Matthew, but the lineage isn't given in Mark. Or mentioned by Paul.

[@neilhundtoft4873]

I think your suggestion regarding James being the leader of the Jesus movement is right on. The authors of the canonical gospels wrote James out of their accounts because they belonged to a different and later faction of the movement which never acknowledged James' authority. They had an apocalyptic message not shared by James. Luke (Acts) delivers his apocalyptic message through Peter on Pentecost. In my view, Peter got the message wrong, running around warning everyone to save themselves from God's imminent coming judgment. I noticed that after Jesus called Peter “Satan” for seeking the will of men over God, Peter is never reinstated by Jesus. (I know, John sees the problem and gives him a 'presidential pardon' for history's sake some 30 years later.) But notice that Peter never changed nor did he relent in his message “seeking the will of men and not of God”, for which Jesus had rebuked him. James was the acknowledged leader of the Jerusalem group until his assassination in 62 CE. But none of the four canonical gospels was written before 70 CE, following James' death. So, from James to the canonical gospels represents the passage of a full generation of developmental changes in the Jesus movement. It went from “The kingdom of heaven is within you.” to warning of the coming “blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke”. I like the original (non-apocalyptic) message the best. I welcome your thoughts of my ponderings. Peace.

[@savannarae6386]

Great video! I am curious why you think Mark was a Jew? His gospel is high level greek, and in chapter 7 he has to explain to his audience about ritual purity, and he gets a lot wrong.

[@agsemerjian]

Is this a reading from Jesus Dynasty?

[@GeorgeCoggins]

the thumbnail for this vid looks strangely like Paul McCartney. just felt the need to share

[@genemother77]

I most love . Long . Form .

[@viz8746]

Stupid thing to say - like saying if you want to understand James Tabor go to his brother or sister - NO - you go directly to James Tabor OR to his favorite student, failing which to any of his direct students.

[@Ma1q444]

Why are you quoting the gospel of Thomas in your description 😂

[@soniachoa1603]

Having read the outstanding calloway book on consecration to st. Joseph, I think I would "go to st. Joseph. " St. James should take precedence over the popular st. Jude though .

[@Monkofmagnesia]

Blast it!How do you expect us to be interested in a video that is much less tahn an hour? :)

[@bartvanransbeeck1341]

The 3 fold manifested man corresponds to : shushumna, ida and pingala Aswel a to sat chit ananda In greek ' makarios'

[@EXISTENCE1891]

1.00 to 2.00 don't forget that 'ruach ha kodesh" ( Holy Spirit) also played an important invisible part. John 16.7

[@eswn1816]

Absolutely! I had the same thought. After Pentecost, the miracles healings, etc showed that it was clear that this was of God!

[@johnstewart7025]

Sometimes, it seems that the most important thing did was to inspire Paul.

[@johannawilliams2346]

True

[@giovanni545]

the Jerusalem council decision from what i understand whats because Moses os taught every sabbath so the 4 things cmvert do its the beginning while they learn Mosaic law.

[@WeCube1898]

The Early Xtians ➡️ Jamesian Sect - Peter and JC's siblings Jude and James taught "The Religion of JC" which is Repentance/Renewal -Judaism. Heavily influenced by Zealotic and Essenic Jewish Philosophies. "Grace by Deed" * James was the sibling of JC, and James was a Common Jew, by the assumption of accounts he and his siblings were observant of Judaism. ➡️ Paulian Sect - Paul taught "The Religion about JC" . Heavily focused on "Messiahnic Deitification and Mysticism" as well as "Greco-Roman Cultural Amalgamation of the Jewish Messiahnic Mysticism" "Grace by Creed" * Paul was Saul of Tarsus a Greco-Roman Citizen of Jewish Diasporan Decent. He was raised, grew up and educated in Proto-Pagan Alexandria.

[@micahimpanis3713]

What is the origin and history of the detestable phrase, “mother of god”?

[@christophermanley3602]

The Council of Ephesus in AD 431 decreed that Mary is the Theotokos "God-bearer" because Her Son Jesus is both God and man: one divine person from two natures (divine and human) intimately and hypostatically united. The title of Mother of God or Mother of Incarnate God; is most often used in English, largely due to the lack of a satisfactory equivalent of the Greek τόκος. For the same reason, the title is often left untranslated, as "Theotokos", in Orthodox liturgical usage of other languages. The title has been in use since the 3rd century, in the Syriac tradition. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theotokos

[@ChooseLove37]

I’m here. 37

[@Vina_Ravyn]

I would be interested to know what Dr Tabor would think about the idea that Jesus (and his family at the helm of the movement) were based on (or modeled after in story form) Judah of Galilee, his family, the fourth philosophy and what eventually became known as zealots. Making the first generation christians firmly zealots. I find that theory highly interesting.

[@paulallenscards]

Considering how often Dr Tabor emphasizes Jesus’ historicity, I would imagine he doesn’t give that idea much thought.

[@Vina_Ravyn]

@@paulallenscards That's too bad. I find the whole "composite Jesus" as something very worthy of taking a look see. As being more historically representative of a movement than one single man. Very intriguing theory. Not straight myth but not straight history either. Best of both worlds lol

[@paulallenscards]

@@Vina_Ravyn I agree that it’s a very intriguing conversation. But in purview of the current scholarly consensus, the subject too far from the realm of plausibility for most to explore it any deeper than the textual records otherwise indicate.

[@Vina_Ravyn]

@@paulallenscards That's far too bad. Seems to me the textual records offers us multiple stories that indicate that Jesus is mainly used for theological proofs more than historical accuracy. I think even Dr Tabor would agree with that. I do think the fundamentalism in scholarship is kinda funny considering how far outside the box the New Testament is opposed to what the Jewish scriptures say. It was worth a shot. ;)

[@modaud358]

@@Vina_Ravyn ​- I think at the very least there is some influence. You might be interested in a paper (open access) recommended by Dr Samuel Zinner recently - here is the citation: Bermejo-Rubio, Fernando. "Jesus and the Anti-Roman Resistance", Journal for the Study of the Historical Jesus 12, 1-2 (2014):1-105.

[@MJ-lx8pc]

Interesting

[@PatriceBoivin]

To learn more about James you can read Robert Eisenmann...

[@chriswilcocks8485]

Interesting but quite a bit of speculation. Food for thought though.

[@integrationalpolytheism]

8:00 - hmm, and isn't the Jesus of GLuke actually forgiving (ie identifying the responsibility of) the Jews, rather than the Romans, which would be in line with what you were just saying before?

[@stuartnorth7659]

Where is part 2

[@sp1ke0kill3r]

Where's part 2?

[@srob4313]

James' the Just succession, or one of biggest cover-ups of Christian history. Eisenmann's book is interesting but such a tedious read and so confuse. If you have other recommandé books about James Mr Tabor? Thanks.

[@onamemmet]

The Brother of Jesus by Butz is quite good.

[@srob4313]

@@onamemmet I forgot that I had that one in my Kindle, I'll check it. 👍

[@blackswan5034]

The image of that Jesus in the thumbnail is super fake 🤥

[@patriciaoudart1508]

🙏💚🧡👍

[@rogerhudson9732]

They were right, the Apocalypse came as Titus, son of Vespasian, and his tenth legion. The destruction of Jerusalem and Temple in AD70.

[@eswn1816]

Where is the evidence that Luke was not a Jew or a Jewish convert?

[@dadedowuh]

These are interesting. So am I led to believe that a lineage of Jesus's family descendants are still walking amongst us currently? How come the Beatles get all the attention?? Where are they and why don't they say hi. Maybe they don't know who they are. Where would they be, what continent, country, state, town, house. I will believe it, take it or leave it, when I see it.

[@DaddyResonance]

His descendants were all killed by the jooo and his mob.. Now that same mob presented you with the Bible.

[@angelahackman2522]

I understand where you are coming from Michael Jeremy, I think the whole world would like to just be told the truth, it feels like a battle at times. I was brought up as a Catholic, as I got older I didn’t like their strictness, and money seemed more important than faith. I never enjoyed school as a child, and felt bullied by their rules, one thing that i find odd now is that we weren’t taught much about the bible, there was never a bible in my home. A few years ago I felt the need to research, and learn as much as I could about Jesus, God, and the bloodline, there are lot’s of theories, conspiracies, some sound crazy, some evil, but I do believe if there were, or are, they would probably face great danger. Just my opinion of course, the Devinci Code for an example.

[@daimondaxe7455]

So you're saying we should all be Nazarene

[@ianweir2115]

Bet you didnt know this James( kind of ironic that your name is James too)...I'am in Alcoholics Annonymous for 22 years. One of the founders Dr. Bob Smith was a Christian man along with his wife . He paid so much attention to the Book of James in the bible, when writing the Big Book of AA, That the original name for AA was almost called...The James Club" Now Dr. William JAMES was the biggest influence to the other AA founder Bill Wilson. He had nothing to do with the book of James, I just thought it was interesting that his last name is James. Some believe thathe book of James was written by a Stoic, but thats a whole different rabbit hole. I also heard it may have been...Marcion of Sinope.

[@LottimusMaximus]

Yes sir :) I haven’t thought about that history in a while :)

[@dougmartin9120]

What evidence do we have that James actually authored the eponymous book?

[@All-is-1]

James did not likely write anything and did not speak Greek, which is what James in the Bible is written in.

[@MarthaEllen88]

It may not be written by James, but could represent his sayings, or the thoughts of a James following community. Or the 'Jewish Christians' Again though, what is the evidence for this?

[@onika6357]

I think because James died early on, so people had to believe in Peter as their leader.

[@edwardwalsh5477]

Get truth from the Bible. James does not appear early in leadership because he was an unbeliever (explained in the gospels) until Jesus' Passion. But by Acts 15, Peter was already subordinate to James who by then believed in Jesus.. As church leader, the Holy Ghost (thru Paul) replaced the Apostles after the failure of the Pentecostal, Jerusalem church. Paul's set of house churches then propagated the of grace.

[@integrationalpolytheism]

excellent stuff. except that of course Acts was pseudoepigraphical, by which I mean Luke and Acts are by different authors (and neither author is "Luke").

[@chardo24]

Was James Jesus half brother?

[@umarhasans.7245]

Yes.

[@jonathanbarnes3061]

Confirmed.

[@TerryJLaRue]

Probably. It appears that Joseph was not the father of Jesus, at least according to Matthew and Luke. They both say it was the Holy Spirit, although more likely it was another unnamed man.

[@matthewkopp2391]

James the Just: I am the true successor of Jesus Peter & Paul (and a Mary wannabe): Puff, the magic dragon lived by the sea And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

[@Cemukay]

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[@sammt200]

Many people are waking up to the fact that Christanity was let astray for two millennia by following the teachings of Paul who never met the living historical Jesus, was not one of his original disciples, and seemed not to know much about his sayings and teachings as evidenced by his epistles. He invented theology and Christology that historical Jesus never preached. Is it any wonder that he was at odds with James and early church in Jerusalem?

[@Jason-vf2mj]

Yeah Paul called it Christianity and Jesus and his disciples called it the way....

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

Jesus, killed on a Friday and by Sunday his followers had decided it was better to start a death cult than to carry on his work.

[@a.p.5906]

Does the gnostic gospels mention James? Or any other text??

[@LA-ILAHA-ILL-ALLAH]

In John 1 the Levites ask John the baptist who he is, revealing their expectations of the Messiah and the Prophet mentioned in Isaiah. Who is the voice in the desert in Is 40:3? John 1:23 John replied, “I am a voice crying out in the desert, Make the Lord’s path straight, just as the prophet Isaiah said.” John 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but, that I am sent before him. Who is the prophet of good news in Is41,61? Luke 4:43 But Jesus said, “I must proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent.” What is the kingdom of God? The kingdom(Theocratic kingdom) is within you(the lawkeepers) Lk17:21. and it will be given to an other nation(bani Ishmael) Mk12:1-12 Lk20:9-19 Mt21:33-46 Mt:20:1-16 Who is the servant in Is42? Who is Kedar? Where is mount Sela? Who is the bruised reed? Who is the smaldering wick? His Torah(Law)? Isaiah42 talks about prophet Muhammadﷺ Is42:1 my servant - Avdi in hebrew, Abdi in arabic(an atribute of the Prophet Muhammadﷺ mentioned in Qur'an) Is42:2 He will not shout or cry out, or raise his voice in the streets.(Another attribute of the Prophetﷺ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6rMl55nqdael6s Is42:3 a *bruised reed* he will not break... bruised reed is Egypt(Christians in egypt even prayed for the muslim army to be succesful against the byzantines) Is42:4 he will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth(the Prophet was succesful against idolators). In his law the islands will put their hope.(Indonesia the largest archipelago is a muslim country. Even The United States Supreme Court honors Prophet Muhammadﷺ as greatest source of law.) Is42:6 I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people and a light for the Gentiles(the Prophet was sent to all mankind, not only to arabs or israelites as Jesus [pbuth]) Is42:10 Sing to the LORD a new song, his praise from the ends of the earth(First word in the Qur'an, Surah Al-Fatiha, which we recite more than 17 times a day is Al-Hamdu-liLah All praise to Allah Lord of the worlds) Is42:11 The desert - is the arabian peninsula raise their voices - is the call to prayer(adhan) Kedarites - are descendants of Ishmael Is42:14 For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and held myself back(600 years between Muhammad and Jesus pbuth) kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4XZeIKaZcp_m7s Turn CC on Is42:15 I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the pools. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnullZiagd1gfas Paul claimed to be the prophet sent to the Gentiles but he preached lawlessness. For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by *setting aside in his flesh the law* with its commands and regulations.Eph2:14-15 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, *nailing it to the cross* Col2:14 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.Rom7:2-3 (The husband and wife is an analogy of God and his people. According to paul, god died so people are free from the law.) Jesus warned against those who preach anomian(ἀνομίαν) - lawlessness in Mt 7:22-23, Mt 24:12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

The claim that Acts was written after the destruction of the temple has been proven false but Tabor still claims it's true. He is not honorable. I have proven that Luke and Acts were both written prior to 70 A.D. simply by reading the texts. Tabor is in business to cast doubt on the word of God. Good for him.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

Sounds like a lot of guesswork and innuendo. Certainly, Luke was writing both a history and also a theology. But your statement comes off as an accusation and a reason to discredit him. Luke says this about his work: Luke 1:1-4 - Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, 2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; 3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, 4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed. Why would you imply that Luke was trying to do something other than he admittedly set out to do? It's for the same reason the Ancient Astronaut theorists make the following claim: "Academics don't want us to know that aliens have visited us in the past." It's a "conspiracy" angle that actually works. "The authorities don't want you to know this." It's the tactic used in the Garden by the serpent. It's an effective tactic.

[@alhassani626]

The Shia Muslims have known what you say for thousands of years. In fact many original converts were fragments of the followers of the Dynasty.

[@THE.GYPSY.PRINCE]

James the just was the leader of the Essenes in Jeruzalem. not Jesus his brother. they combined them like they combined Jesus with John the baptist. marketing.

[@atheistapostate7019]

I often cite Acts as confirming James was head of the Church, NOT Peter. Many Christians do NOT like it too much, and Christ Church restoration groups really hate it as Peter and Paul are above James

[@theeternalsbeliever1779]

The obvious problem with your argument is that Jesus appointed Peter as the lead apostle(Matt. 16:18). The name "Peter" in the ancient world denoted that someone was the primary leader of a religion. The fact that Paul specifically stated in Gal. 1 that he went to Jerusalem to see Peter to be validated as an apostle shows who the real leader was.

[@atheistapostate7019]

@@theeternalsbeliever1779 actually the focus was taken off of any family member of Jesus and placed towards Peter. Today the Catholic Church admits that James was the leader of the Hebrew Christian’s though they try and maintain Peter was leader to those outside Jerusalem. Acts inadvertently admits to whom the correct leader was when was the author states Paul went up to James, Peter and John. Each time we have Paul go to Jerusalem James is who he sees, and mentioned first. Paul goes to the Jerusalem Church over matters outside of Jerusalem, which is another indication James, not Peter was the head, and it was James who ruled a decision NOT Peter. Peter is rebuked by Paul for following the judgement of James when it came to eating with gentiles and eating heir foods. IF Peter were the head, who would James be to call down the leader? The universal church TRIED to erase James out of the leadership BUT it was impossible and we see that.

[@brian78045]

Rome couldn't arrest Jesus and disciples, as Rome did immediately for other false claimants, because when Rome initially tried to arrest Jesus, they were immobilized. Secondly, because there was a Roman occupation of Judea, the Jewish authorities couldn't openly proclaim Jesus the Messiah, which they knew He was because the Romans couldn't arrest Jesus.

[@bartvanransbeeck1341]

Paul was not initiated and i suppose he changed completely the 'holy trinity'...it is not 'the father ,the son and the holy spirit' !!!!! The fourfold inner being is: the god ho theos, the father, The primordial essence ,or origin, he arche, the mother The formative thought ho logos, the son The breath to pneuma, the life principle The threefold manifested man The spiritual body , soma pneumatikon The psychic body, some psychikon The phystcal body , flesh, sarx

[@michaelmartin3122]

What is missing from this Gospel of Tabor is the resurrection of Jesus. It is more probable that a resin Jesus and the Spirit animated the followers after the crucifixion than that the Jewish-Christians worshipped the “bloodline” of David. James the just became a leader in Jerusalem but the movement doesn’t survive without the resurrection. Best to stay with the Church’s version than this scholarly fiction.

[@pamcatello9136]

Maybe. Both happened maybe the apostles just saw it different. Leave out your unsupported facts your assumptions. Is wrong

[@benmoi3390]

james the Just the brother of Jesus IS the disciple that Jesus loved... the one that John talked about... John never mention himself and even less would talk about himself in the 3rd person like if he was Cesar... James the Just was the first patricarch of Jerusalem and the First in the apostolic line of the papacy... he is said to be the Brother of Jesus since the very time that Jesus said publicly this is your mother,... mother this is your son... and thus making of him his True Brother... not the ones that Joseph got from his previous wife which are said to have disbelieved Jesus... and that is know from... the Gospel or protoevangelion of ..James. James Mother was then Called Sister of mary because if James is the brother of Jesus then so his mother must be the sister of the theotokos... and Clopas was called the borther of Joseph... now was that for the same reason or was he really the brother of Joseph that's unsure... but he wasn'T the father of James... James was the brother of Alpheus who died without giving a child and James just gave a child to his brother's wife... that Jude, known as Thaddeus and Lebbaus... that's why we see some place James of alpheus and Jude of James.... but mark get confused by Lebbaus from Lebh and Levi and thus confuse Matthew as also son of Alpheus. James was the first patriarch and as the first patriarch he took care of the ark of convenant... Mary until her assumption.

[@benmoi3390]

salome is as we read in the gospel of James the women who was present at the birth of Jesus... and witnesses the virginity of Mary

[@larryprimeau5885]

Rome replaced Pilate as governor of Palestine. Because his cruelty contributed to the Jewish revolt.

[@azarmirza-beg9102]

This scholar tries to underline the idea that Jesus Christ was a Jew, that he was a Jewish Messiah, then why the Jews don't want to recognize him as such, why do they want to remain as followers of Judaism? Judaism and Christianity are distinct religions.

[@deppo_zweifler9029]

James Tabor is not a jew. Jews affirms that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies by ushering in an era of universal peace (Isaiah 2:4), building the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28), and gathering all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

[@victorknezevich7281]

I think it's the humanitarian teachings of jesus that matter ,the rest is not really valid, if only all christian churches could focus on that,instead of ritual,and argueing over the divinity of jesus ,etc..the christian churches are so backward,not to just focus on Jesus's teaching,and they are so divisive,it's a shame more people don't think like me.

[@HistoryandReviews]

“Luke is the only non Jewish writer of the entire New Testament “ that is not true at all. All the gospel authors are GREEKS or Romans and Im inclined to believe the epistles were by Greeks and Romans as well