James the Just--His Teachings and Tragic Death

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James Tabor

James Tabor

Жыл бұрын

A continuation of the tale of James the Just, nearly forgotten brother of Jesus of Nazareth, who took over leadership of the movement after the crucifixion of Jesus. How did their outlook and teachings compare? And how and why did James meet his horrible and violent death--around Passover, at the hands of the family of Annas--High Priests of Jerusalem, who had also killed Jesus.

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@Bever71
@Bever71 Жыл бұрын
So sad and ironic that the person that could most give modern Christianity a true picture of Jesus has been mostly forgotten.
@atheistapostate7019
@atheistapostate7019 Жыл бұрын
Robert Eisenman has gone some great work on James over several decades and according to him, discover who James was and you discover whom the real historical Jesus was, not the Pauline Jesus.
@LordDirus007
@LordDirus007 Жыл бұрын
He was the First Leader of the Church after Jesus. Not Peter, Is there any actual evidence Peter died in Rome?
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 Жыл бұрын
Beverly Traino - Why say that?! - Professor Tabor hasn’t been forgotten.
@familyaccount4919
@familyaccount4919 Жыл бұрын
Truthful Kindness here. James has been my favorite New Testament book for almost 20 years. Thanks for further sharing on this topic.
@Chad2baddd
@Chad2baddd 14 күн бұрын
Same
@robsellars9338
@robsellars9338 Жыл бұрын
At last! Something that approaches the true origins of Christianity and its message ( the original essence of the Torah as taught by Moses). I don't think the Christian Church would like this video but for me it's the keystone that binds all of your other work together because James's letter is REAL and as valuable for what it doesn't say as it is for what it does say. Great work professor!
@robsellars9338
@robsellars9338 Жыл бұрын
@@gacitizen2 I said Christian Church might not like it not Christians (who generally are just followers who have trust in their leaders). The Professors letter brings into question the very cornerstone of Christianity as a religion. You may look at this video and interpret it another way and of course you are entitled to do that. BUT the untruth has no existence whereas the truth never ceases to exist. It's never about opinion in the end, only truth.
@ReflectiveRobot
@ReflectiveRobot Жыл бұрын
@@gacitizen2 The idea that Jesus is not God would be blasphemy in most christian churches today. It seems Jesus was only raised to divine status long after his death. The voice and beliefs of James who had direct and intimate knowledge of the historical life of his brother Jesus, was overshadowed by the loud arguments of Paul, who had only ever met Jesus in mystical visions.
@kennethbrownsher1264
@kennethbrownsher1264 Жыл бұрын
@@robsellars9338 you are correct it shows how Paul and his Gentile Church changed the message
@kennethbrownsher1264
@kennethbrownsher1264 Жыл бұрын
Judaism knows only the 1 God. Even the Prophets say that God said There was None Before Me and None After Me. GOD SAYS HE DOES not Share his Glory. Paul began his own re6
@kennethbrownsher1264
@kennethbrownsher1264 Жыл бұрын
James is quoting the Golden Rule of Hillel, and what sums up the Torah. Gentiles have no knowledge of these facts
@edvaneckert2348
@edvaneckert2348 Жыл бұрын
Paul was msileading the whole live and preaching of Jesus! Its so obvious! Thank you Prof.Tabor! You commited your live to the truth!
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse Жыл бұрын
This is false. The apostles affirmed him.
@edvaneckert2348
@edvaneckert2348 Жыл бұрын
@@LoftOfTheUniverse the apostles affirmed who? I mean, its obvious that Jesus´teachings were lifting boundaries and that his apostles were less reluctant to teach and invite the gentiles to this new Jewish interpretation auf worshipping Jahwe by following his son. I dont think that the apostles affirmed Paul. Paul was a kind a n ambitious "freak" who self endorsed his role by telling that Jesus directly been talking to him after crucifiction and moe weird statements. Paul was in my eyes an imposter, highly educated intellectual expad and related to the Herodians ("my kin") and since he was obviousely gay what made it impossible to have a Pharisean career within the Jewish church he decided to take over the new Messiah movement by blending it with Enochian - Greek philosophy and that specific interpretations of the divine close to the Mitras cult of Egypt. He was nothing but a clever spin doc. hahaha i dont know but it makes much more sense to me than anything i learned of this Pauline success and the pagean Christian church! What a grotesque! Lets have big sarcastic laugh!. But we have to thank him since otherwise we wouldnt even know about Jesus anymore nowadays i assume. Thats how history works with ambiguity, confusion,vanity and lies. Greets from Hamburg, Germany
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse Жыл бұрын
@@edvaneckert2348 Paul hated Christians, yet died a martyr for that same Christ. He founded many churches that stood against the ways of the world yet gave all credit to God. God wouldn't allow His Word to have an imposter in the entirety of the new testament. People are still choosing trust in self over trust in the work of Christ (who calls Himself the Alpha and the Omega, and shared the glory with God the Father in the beginning). And Peter says the writings of Paul were misunderstood "like the rest of scriptures". Paul couldn't have been what he became without the work of God. Don't be led astray by people who can't even keep half of the law.
@ThePropriate
@ThePropriate Жыл бұрын
@@edvaneckert2348 Most of what you said I agree with, but what evidence is there that Paul was gay? I don't doubt it, I was just wondering what proof there is.
@ThePropriate
@ThePropriate Жыл бұрын
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Paul contradicts Jesus in many areas. You need to decide whether you follow Christ or Jesus. Read the rest of the Bible to see if Paul's characterization of the law is correct. Moreover, Paul was probably not a martyr. That story came later on, to solidify the power of the Catholic Church.
@junepatterson7928
@junepatterson7928 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this story. The last time I heard it was over sixty years ago from my uncle who had traveled the Bible Lands after WWII as a way of healing from the war.
@Askimin6888
@Askimin6888 Жыл бұрын
Thank you James Tabor. Your honest, lucid and evidence-based narrative is compelling and fearless. Absolutely, the focus was the "Divine message not the person of Jesus"..A fundamental theological point framing the heart of Quran's critical Christology and its critique of the post-Pauline Christianity. My late Birmingham Uni. colleague, Michael Douglas Goulder, the unusual humanist scholar of the NT and Hebrew Bible, appears to be right in his thesis that the mission of Jesus and Paul were fundamentally different (explained in his brilliant book A Tale of Two Mission ).
@davidtyler3116
@davidtyler3116 Жыл бұрын
So powerful Dr. Tabor. We all must do good works which improve and clarify our faith. James was an incredible person in the history of religion who is passed by without much consideration.
@HHasan-of2vi
@HHasan-of2vi Жыл бұрын
Many thanks for Dr.James Tabor's sincere effort to bring up the truth for layman, because there are so many who knows the truth but hide it from people.
@elizabeth_777
@elizabeth_777 Жыл бұрын
James is a favorite of mine.🥰
@zzzonezz
@zzzonezz 6 ай бұрын
This is so cool because James has been my favorite book of the Bible for a long time.
@Ammeeeeeeer
@Ammeeeeeeer Жыл бұрын
Just here for James the Just 😇 Thanks for the video!
@afaegfsgsdef
@afaegfsgsdef Жыл бұрын
I love when you say John the baptizer
@terryfox9344
@terryfox9344 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. It is much appreciated.
@stephenthestoryteller3139
@stephenthestoryteller3139 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really enjoyed listening 👂 Looking forward to more. Have a great weekend.
@LarryKahal
@LarryKahal 3 ай бұрын
To me, this is the most plausible explanation of the events of the first century CE and later. Thank you, Dr Tabor, for your diligent research and effort to get this out.
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for this, Dr. Tabor!
@sriramkumar9577
@sriramkumar9577 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this narration.
@paineite
@paineite Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Dr. Tabor.
@georgepolycarpou2023
@georgepolycarpou2023 Жыл бұрын
thank you for sharing this information.
@evangeliogonzalez5799
@evangeliogonzalez5799 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Tabor for another excellent video.
@garyp5437
@garyp5437 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Robert_L_Peters
@Robert_L_Peters Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@alexjames9643
@alexjames9643 Жыл бұрын
dr t thank u 4 all ur hard work.ur a true treasure. hopefully ill join 1 of ur tours of the holy land in the future.
@bigbillhenry
@bigbillhenry Жыл бұрын
Glad i found you i enjoy your videos
@cherylberk4593
@cherylberk4593 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Tabor. This ia a revelation in that what is revealed is Truth. I look forward to many more scholarly videos. ❤️
@I8ofYeshua
@I8ofYeshua 17 күн бұрын
Kudos to you, professor, for pointing out this, short yet very important document of the brother of our Lord, who is called James in the English Bible. However, his actual name is Jacob, in Hebrew (Ya’aqov).
@cracker3932
@cracker3932 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always. Are you reading from one of your books here? If so, which one?
@mushtaqobaray7529
@mushtaqobaray7529 Жыл бұрын
Missing gaps clearly brought to light, for what reason, where how and why. The clearer picture now emerges. Thanks .
@Will2Wisdom
@Will2Wisdom 6 ай бұрын
You are correct in your work.
@TruthTVNZ03
@TruthTVNZ03 Жыл бұрын
13:12 Well that's something to do on my bucket list. Go and pay my respects to James the Just when I go to Israel and visit the temple mount.
@markwmyers9113
@markwmyers9113 Жыл бұрын
Things once hidden are now being revealed.
@teena4rl211
@teena4rl211 Жыл бұрын
I've read your books, and I love the podcast. How best to be a follower of Jesus and not Paul? Christian theology evolved largely from Paul's teachings, Paul's understanding of Jesus. I am raised Catholic, have visited many Christian denominations, including more recent churches such as LDS. Paul's teachings underpin all. On some level, I never agreed with Paul, less as an adult, even less after studying theology and philosophy and ancient religions. But where can one actually go, attend, be a part of community where emphasis is on James and the Jewish teachings? It seems that to truly live as a follower of Jesus, one should convert to reformed Judaism. Thoughts?
@amsterdamG2G
@amsterdamG2G Жыл бұрын
2 Peter 3:15,16 says much about the beloved brother Paul.... But he is ( one of) the most misunderstood figure in the new testament. Both by people for him as well as those against. You are to imitate me, just as I imitate Christ. ( 1 Corinthians 11:1 )
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, you hit the nail on the head. They were all Jews. It means the Law/Torah is sacred to them, as it should be to us also (I am a Gentile, and I assume you are too). As Jesus said, not one stroke of a pen will pass from the Law until all has been fulfilled. There are 613 Laws. But as Gentiles, which ones do we keep? James, the brother of Jesus said in Acts 15:19 "For this reason I judge not to trouble those from the nations turning to God, 20 but to write to them to hold back from the pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and blood." So, do not commit idolatry (part of the Commandments), sexual immorality (Leviticus Ch 18), do not eat blood (Leviticus 16:10). In all these verses in the OT, God includes the non-Israelites with a line such as "neither the native nor the _alien_ who is staying in your midst". The foreigners/sojourners/aliens are the fore-runners of Gentiles - us. Jesus said to inherit life - keep the Commandments. God's Covenant (to keep the Commandments) is extended to all nations. Isaiah 56 is so beautiful: "1 So says YAHWEH: Keep justice and do righteousness, for my salvation is coming soon, and My righteousness will be revealed. 2 Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; keeping the Sabbath, from defiling it; and keeping his hand from doing every evil. 3 And do not let the son of the foreigner speak, he who joins himself to YAHWEH, saying, surely, YAHWEH separates me from His people; and do not let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dried tree. 4 For so says YAHWEH to the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths and choose things I am pleased with, and take hold of My covenant: 5 I, even I will give to them in My house and in My walls a hand and a name better than sons and than daughters; I will give them an everlasting name which shall not be cut off. 6 And the sons of the foreigner, who join themselves to YAHWEH to serve Him, and to love the name of YAHWEH, to be His servants, everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, and takes hold of My covenant: 7 even them I will bring to My holy mount and make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted on My altar, for My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the peoples, 8 states Adonai YAHWEH, who gathers the outcasts of Israel; I will yet gather others beside him to his gathered ones." It is beautifully summed up in Ecclesiastes: 12: "12 And more than these, my son, be warned: The making of many books has no end, and much study is the weariness of the flesh. 13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear The Elohim, and keep His commandments; for this applies to every man. 14 For The Elohim shall bring every work into judgment, with all that is hidden, whether it is good, or whether it is evil."
@metsfan1873
@metsfan1873 Жыл бұрын
Jew here, in no sense a Christian. There is no need to convert to Judaism to acknowledge and worship G-d, and there is nothing missing in you if you don't. It is impossible for any Jew of the Second Temple era to see it differently, and reading James.... James saw it no differently and Jesus saw it no differently. At the time, the term used for Gentiles who acknowledged and worshipped G-d without conversion was "G-d-Fearers." It makes no sense for Jesus, James, or any of the others to have required conversion. What then should a Gentile G-d-fearer do, if it is not necessary to keep the full set of Torah Commandments? According to Judaism, there are a set of seven Commandments, known as the "Noachide Laws" sometimes spelled "Noahide Laws" and you can look them up if you're really interested. At the time of Jesus the details were still being debated, and the indications we have in the NT suggest that "something like" the Noahide Laws were then taught by the "Jesus movement" but perhaps not in the eventual, final, agreed form. I don't see them listed very explicitly, but the principles expressed are certainly consistent with them. In this context, in the question of how good Gentile G-d-fearers should behave the advice offered by James, Paul, and directly by Jesus are ---- with the obvious exception of the special role of Jesus!!!! --- very consistent with all this. So if you want to know what Jesus, James, Paul, and the others taught that Gentile followers should do -- the Seven Noahide Laws are a reasonable point to start from. It's at the very least, "close" to what they would have listed, had they been explicit enough to make a definite list. You will find at least six of the seven very clearly specified - just not all in one place. Also, if you are interested in conversion to Judaism.... you'll have to give up Jesus altogether. I doubt that this path will work for you.
@teena4rl211
@teena4rl211 Жыл бұрын
@@metsfan1873 Thank you. That is very helpful.
@metsfan1873
@metsfan1873 Жыл бұрын
If you go through Tanach ("OT" to Christians) you'll find many examples of Gentiles worshipping the same G-d that we do. Abraham and Melchitzedek worshipped together. Jethro and Moses did so also. You can't get a much better pair of examples than Abraham and Moses. Many examples of Gentiles bringing sacrifices to the Temple. It's all good. No need to convert. No need for a Gentile to follow "all 613."
@martinlakeuk
@martinlakeuk 10 күн бұрын
Professor Tabor, if you were to put a “Non Pauline New Testament” together, which writings would you include? Epistle of James, Jude, Q source, Didache? What about Revelations? Gospel of Thomas? Would any of the synoptic gospels make it in? Could you even have a “New Testament”, or a “New Covenant”, without Paul? Would you personally see any benefit in this exercise, or do you feel there is no real Christianity without Paul?
@dougr6269
@dougr6269 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe that James disputed salvation by faith without works of the law, nor did James say works "of the law". Nor do I agree that Paul disagreed that faith without works is dead. Nor do I see James as forgotten or nearly forgotten. Maybe because I read the Bible myself apart from ever having been a Christian and was woken up to the word of G'd in my heart from the words from G'd in the scripture and not from a preacher or teacher or christian. 5:50 what is the spelling for the lost source? "dida k"?
@dianastevenson131
@dianastevenson131 Жыл бұрын
Didache I believe.
@youngknowledgeseeker
@youngknowledgeseeker Жыл бұрын
Yes it's very frustrating to see experts you want to learn from misunderstanding Paul or other authors on such a fundamental level. Dont get me wrong we're very blessed to be able to learn from experts in history and language, who have also studied the Bible for a long time, but when they don't understand the simple basic concepts of Paul it's mind blowing. Like that Paul never imagined a faith without works or that in James letter, at the very least, James doesn't seem to be advocating for works of the law but for good works in general like feeding someone or clothing them. I'd love to pick your brain on something actually, there is one thing that seemed like a discrepancy, though maybe minor, between Paul's argument in Romans and James in his letter. Paul makes the argument that Abraham was justified when he trusted/believed God and his promises. However James argues, seemingly, that Abraham was justified when he attempted to sacrifice Isaac. On the one hand it doesn't really seem like a big deal because they are essentially saying the same thing. That you must have faith and that your faith must produce good works for you to be justified and righteous on judgement day. On the other hand it feels like a big deal to see what appears to be a contradiction on paper between two pillars of the church. Paul's m.o. in Romans is to reassure Gentiles (and Jews) that they were made right with God when they believed the gospel message and were baptized. Paul just assumes that this belief obviously means they will obey the Gospel too and he says clearly thay if their is no obedience they are doomed. James says outright "You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone." James 2:24
@joeyriley5354
@joeyriley5354 Жыл бұрын
Any chance we could get you to turn some of your books, into audio books, with you as the narrator? My grammr/punctuation isn't great, obviously. The audio would be nice, especially with the author as the narrator.
@joeyriley5354
@joeyriley5354 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I should have looked before I leaped. Oof. Found exactly what I asked for available online.
@oldmanfigs
@oldmanfigs Жыл бұрын
I was once told that( only )through my faith could I ascend to heaven…then I quoted “ a faith without acts is a dead faith” the man then called me a zealot… I am saddened by there (Fatal ) relationship with there own (uncircumcised ) ego.
@whidoineedthis
@whidoineedthis Жыл бұрын
Being a zealot is a good thing
@marybaumer9812
@marybaumer9812 Жыл бұрын
I was told again yesterday by someone that she was saved and felt sorry for the people that are not saved. My heart ached. The ego is blinding people. They are so full of themselves, the can't hear. Humility is gone.
@oldmanfigs
@oldmanfigs Жыл бұрын
this person used it as a stone to throw. Sometimes we can be so close and far away at the same time
@oldmanfigs
@oldmanfigs Жыл бұрын
@@marybaumer9812 hoping for the faithful remnant.
@kphilli5
@kphilli5 Ай бұрын
Do we have any sense or info about what happened to Jude, younger brother of Jesus, and the Jesus supporters when the Romans sacked Jerusalem?
@YHWHsaves-dot-com
@YHWHsaves-dot-com Жыл бұрын
They say: "the victor writes the history" and since God is the victor who tells us the end from the beginning, I hold suspect the accounts of history given by those who want to hide their culpability regarding their evil deeds by giving a slightly distorted view of what really happened. With that said, what do you make of the account of Hegesippus as recorded by Eusebius in his "Ecclesiastical History"? In this account it appears that Annus ben Annus was far more impulsive and took James up to the pinnacle of the Temple to either recant of Jesus before all the worshippers (coming from all over the known world) at Passover, or he would be made an EXAMPLE which would be widely circulated. This seems to also fit Jesus prophecy of the beginning of our tribulation when he was quoting Daniel in. Mat. 24:15 & Mk. 13:14. I would also point out the constant "shadow power" which remained from the time Jesus was executed until he snuck himself out of the besieged Temple in a casket and into Gen. Vespasian's tent to prophesy he would become the next Emperor after 3 "horns" would be "plucked up" (I'm referencing Daniel 7:8). This shadow power referred to by many as the "saviour" of the Jews, was clearly a "master and scholar" (Mal. 2:12) was none other than Yochanan Ben Zakkai, the leader of the Pharisees when Jesus was "cut off" (Dan. 9:26). It appears he was instrumental in James' murder by instigating Annus to do this thing and then having the High Priest assassinated shortly after to end any potential Roman investigation into the matter, thereby covering his tracks. As a final note it's interesting the Talmud gives Zakkai credit for giving Vespasian the prophecy, but their interpreter Josephus (the Historian whose account you referenced) takes credit for the prophecy himself. It's also VERY INTERESTING that the two letter word עם in Dan. 9:26 is "pointed" as "people" and is translated as "with the people" when the conjugation of the verbs in 3rd person masculine singular indicate it should read simply "with". In other words, the one who is being fingered by God in this book which is to remain sealed until the end days at judgement, is none other than Zakkai, the eyes on the little horn (Vespasian) who he hailed to power together with their interpreter Josephus. Zakkai is the "master and scholar" of Mal. 2:12 AND he's the 3rd person being identified by the verbs in Dan. 9:26: "HE cut off moshiach...and WITH the coming Prince, HE destroyed the sanctuary and city" in a conspiracy to enslave his own people to the fraud Sabbath which the 1st Pontifex Maximus of Rome (Julius Caesar) created and implemented in 46 BCE which ended the Roman Republic. So what I'm saying is Vespasian was the "little" 10th "horn", Zakkai was his "eyes", and the "mouth" between them which took credit for Zakkai's prophecy was Josephus. Vespasian is the "7th King" which John tells us would soon be coming (Rev. 17:10). So history was sealed up but now it's time for the rest of the prophecies to begin manifesting as God already told us. I have much more but I thought we might start there if you care to.
@Zen_Traveler
@Zen_Traveler Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr Tabor for more extremely interesting content on KZbin! I'm on the last 50 pages of Dr Eisenman's book "James the Brother of Jesus" and your video(s) and Eisenman's book(s) left me with this question: If Jesus was for the most part illiterate (being a carpenter or carpenter's son), what about James given how long he was leader of this movement in Jerusalem? I don't know if you agree with Eisenman about James being an '"Opposition Priest" at the Temple, but it does make me wonder how much he could read and write, espessially if he was issuing letters of recommendation and that Paul was a educated dude.
@xifangyangren9997
@xifangyangren9997 Жыл бұрын
I know a bluecollar “handyman” whose shabby clothes and plain house disguise how much he really earns. He is very street smart and business savvy, which is to say, I wouldn’t be surprised if Joseph and Mary were the same. And that’s how Jesus and James got a leg up. Kind of like Abraham Lincoln.
@Zen_Traveler
@Zen_Traveler Жыл бұрын
@@xifangyangren9997 Fwiw, it wasn't meant as a derogatory comment but a question in light of 95% of that population couldn't read or write and that Paul was reported to be literate and that Jesus was not. Otoh, if James worked his way up to be leader of a major Jewish community and was writing letters I was curious what Dr Tabor thought.
@xifangyangren9997
@xifangyangren9997 Жыл бұрын
@@Zen_Traveler Jesus was literate because he was reading Hebrew scrolls in the synagogue.
@lorisewsstuff1607
@lorisewsstuff1607 Жыл бұрын
Many people over the years have said that Jesus was illiterate. The main argument seems to be that since his family was poor he could not have been educated thus he could not have been able to read. The thing is history does not support that theory. There are numerous examples of people that lived in poverty that could read and write and sometimes even educated themselves in more advanced fields such as mathematics. Really the only way to know if a historical figure was illiterate is if someone stated that they did not know how to read or had to have documents read to them. For most people we will never know if they could read or not.
@Zen_Traveler
@Zen_Traveler Жыл бұрын
@@lorisewsstuff1607Maybe...I guess the thing that gets me is that 7 letters of Paul evidently survived and he was reportedly educated. Otoh, nothing from Jesus or James and yet the latter wrote recommendations and lead the community for almost 30 years. Iit seems Paul's letters are the ONLY thing that survived before the fall of the Temple dealing with Jesus and James.
@soniachoa1603
@soniachoa1603 Жыл бұрын
The spiritual link between the two is so tight. John says Jesus could have granted his beloved immortality if Jesus wanted too. I read somewhere that nowadays, it is thought John the evangelist is still alive.
@onika6357
@onika6357 3 ай бұрын
Did James believe Jesus would return?
@rineric3214
@rineric3214 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have felt this way for decades, but had nothing but my own voice to hear on the subject. I read every word of the Bible, but I didn't figure things out, I just intuited a personal opinion. But, it was just as this lecture says. First rule: not Paul. Paul was a spy, not a "Christian" "saint". He infiltrated the group and spoiled it from the inside. Stalin did the same thing. James the Just was the Dobrynin of Christianity.
@rogerjohnson2562
@rogerjohnson2562 4 ай бұрын
Check out 'Caesars Messiah', and 'Creating Christ'.
@dadedowuh
@dadedowuh Жыл бұрын
How come people don't question Jesus?(I sound like Andy Rooney) why didn't Jesus leave any written.. write . I mean literally, and not just a little? Where are the hand writing single source scroll's written by mystro ? Just wondering
@alecbrown66
@alecbrown66 Жыл бұрын
I read in the apocrypha and notes that James was nicknamed camel knees, as he spent so much time in prayer (or what we call housemaid knee today). And his shocking end makes his story exceptional)
@amalgamating
@amalgamating 5 ай бұрын
So sad. What does this all mean? Wheres this family ? Where are these peoples descendants?
@francisgruber3638
@francisgruber3638 4 ай бұрын
James is undoubtedly incorporated into the discipleship of Jesus by the appearance of the risen Christ to him. To this James testifies and he shares this testimony with Peter, John and, yes, Paul. It is the organic unfolding of the truth of the risen Jesus wherein lies all the consequences of Christ's paschal sacrifice, the eucharist, Christ's divinity and the Church's ascendancy after the Temple's destruction. Paul, not having direct knowledge of the historical ministry of Jesus emphasizes the consequences; James, having a knowledge of Jesus from before his ministry cannot forget it. Besides, thee may be a Davidic lineage claim that the "brother of the Lord", ie, king, could press.
@onika6357
@onika6357 3 ай бұрын
Could James be the Q source?
@Shai-eg6ew
@Shai-eg6ew Жыл бұрын
This is tragic As a complete atheist , those guys were willing to die for their religious ideas That entire era was tragic. But still it seems that some ppl were and still are taunting death itself.
@healthyone100
@healthyone100 Жыл бұрын
was Jesus really the son of God nobody really knows if he was then HELL is going to be very crowded, did he die on the cross for our sins, i was a strict vegan christian for 30 years i'm still a vegan but i don't believe he died on the cross the only person Jesus saved was himself and we have to do the same by how we live our lives faith has nothing to do with it, all the early true believers were ascetics in all areas of their lives and obtained true salvation!
@deckiedeckie
@deckiedeckie 3 ай бұрын
A faith w/o deeds is. like big resounding bell ......hollow.....
@donnastrange7638
@donnastrange7638 Жыл бұрын
What is the Q source
@whidoineedthis
@whidoineedthis 5 ай бұрын
It's a list of sayings that yahshua
@xxxs8309
@xxxs8309 Жыл бұрын
James was a mystery indeed
@kellypowell2581
@kellypowell2581 5 ай бұрын
I thought the q document was fictitional and theoretical not actual
@tugatgalut
@tugatgalut Жыл бұрын
Try 'The Gospel of Tugat Galut', the Davidic King, the Messiah. The Truth is out there... 🙏
@heavenswindsong
@heavenswindsong Жыл бұрын
Dr. Tabor, I brought this same subject to your attention recently, but didn't get a response back....There is also much QUESTION, that it was entirely possible that the Stoning of Steven & the stoning of James, with the clothes of Steven laid at the feet of Paul....are ONE in the SAME event....We have very little to go by, other than the events described in Acts & Josephus...but, we do know for a certain fact, through Acts, & the statements that Peter makes concerning Paul in 2nd Peter 3, and through the dispute Paul had with Peter in Galatians, that Paul despised James & Peter....Paul was a Herodian Edomite and very possibly the direct son of Herod Antipas, who officiated the beheading of John the Baptist...and he was also the step brother of Salome...daughter of Herodias...
@paleoaram5105
@paleoaram5105 Жыл бұрын
Lords prayer - is anti thesis to Paul's teachings.
@heavenswindsong
@heavenswindsong Жыл бұрын
@@paleoaram5105 Agreed
@FadersAnd
@FadersAnd 20 күн бұрын
Paul and James don’t contradict - one is talking about the spirit (Paul) and one is talking about the soul (James) when we are saved our spirit is perfect for eternal. James a pastor is more interested in the personal daily walk as opposed to an apostle that is concerned about the foundations. When James says justification he is talking about being justified in our sanctification not in our salvation. There is perfect harmony between the two.
@MinisterRedPill
@MinisterRedPill Жыл бұрын
One must ask why they thought James were breaking the law? What would make them think this?
@Zen_Traveler
@Zen_Traveler Жыл бұрын
If I am remembering correctly, Robert Eisenman posits that he went into the holy of holies to pray for the people on a day he wasn't supposed to according to Ananus ben Anunus so he called up the Sanhedrin and then had him stoned.
@willempasterkamp862
@willempasterkamp862 Жыл бұрын
he was rebelling against Lord Tiberius (his brother), Tiberius then had him assassinated by Ananias.
@dbarker7794
@dbarker7794 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Seems to me the world would've been better off if Christianity had been more influenced by James and less by that weirdo from Tarsus.
@888Longball
@888Longball 6 ай бұрын
Can any one explain what James meant by "works?"
@jerrylyns7331
@jerrylyns7331 5 ай бұрын
I think he means strategy and knowledge. Just as hope is useless without direction, faith is useless without works.
@amalgamating
@amalgamating 5 ай бұрын
Works- deeds, labor, acts, actions. Etymology is what youre after.
@888Longball
@888Longball 5 ай бұрын
No, don't need a dictionary.@@amalgamating
@tokologomalatsi4160
@tokologomalatsi4160 Ай бұрын
It means applying the word practically to your life.
@docfate
@docfate Жыл бұрын
Your assumptions are nonsense. Jesus himself in Mark and Matthew claimed ro be the 2nd YeHoVah figure in the prophecy of Daniel, to the High Priest, and was labeled a blasphemer for it. Sorry, but you are incorrect.
@nsbd90now
@nsbd90now Ай бұрын
Willful ignorance isn't really ignorance so much as it is choosing to be wrong. Also, you don't seem to understand what "assumptions" are.
@YuhwoahRJM
@YuhwoahRJM 2 ай бұрын
Real
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte
@Neapoleone-Buonaparte Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT
@truthseeker5097
@truthseeker5097 26 күн бұрын
What this is teaching is basically what Muslims believe! The truth! Allah is calling……. We will leave a light on for you 💡
@annwilson-rawi3760
@annwilson-rawi3760 Жыл бұрын
Jesus called himself Son of Man and gave us Two Commandments on which hang the Law and the Prophets.
@Tom-sd9jb
@Tom-sd9jb 7 ай бұрын
What does it mean "to hang"? I am always confused by that phrase.
@integrationalpolytheism
@integrationalpolytheism 3 ай бұрын
9:57 - indeed, it's either that, or else a fair amount of copypasting has gone on between the two versions of this story.
@Miroslaw-rs8ip
@Miroslaw-rs8ip Ай бұрын
I don’t necessarily agree with all your points though I do appreciate some of your teachings, in particular you paint the picture that Paul distorted the original teachings about Jesus’ divinity but Paul didn’t write the Gospel of John did he? You refer to a Q source document however that’s speculation since no document has been found that you’re referring to. Actually during the 2nd temple period there were Rabbi’s who believed in the Two Powers in Heaven, Paul was a scholar unlike James who most likely was a tradesman and not a trained scholar. I believe in Jesus’ divinity because He transformed my life, I had a similar Saul on the road to Damascus event in my life about 40 years ago and I’ve never been the same since ❤️👍✝️
@code-x9030
@code-x9030 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to make an observation: If the letter of James and James himself have been ignored because he doesn’t support Paul’s view of a divine Christ and then salvation with works of the law….then let me say this: Had this been true, wouldn’t the reformers 1500 yrs after Christ have caught this? Isn’t it a bit telling, that the greatest reformer of all (due to his impact & influence) Martin Luther, discovers peace in Christ through Romans 1:17 justification by faith? If u are a Protestant can u deny the work of the Holy Spirit in Luther’s day against the church, did Luther not restore the authority of the Bible as the greatest authority of all? But yet Luther along with other reformers does not support justification through works.
@ThePropriate
@ThePropriate Жыл бұрын
Martin Luther wrote Against the Antinomians later in life in which he reversed much of what he earlier said. Antinomianism is being against the law. He came to understand that view is bankrupt.
@code-x9030
@code-x9030 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePropriate Did any of the works that Luther did as a monk of the strictest order bring him any peace? On the contrary, he states “had I been saved through the these, I would have gained Heaven cause I did them better than anybody” (paraphrasing) . It’s until he encounters Roman’s 1:17 “the just shall live through faith” that he finds rest and is able to move on. The impact of this cannot be overstated as to how the Christian world received this.
@ThePropriate
@ThePropriate Жыл бұрын
I don't recommend becoming a monk. I recommend following the teaching of Jesus, which were utterly consistent with the law. Neither were a great burden as Paul said. I guess the law was a burden for him because he couldn't stop violating it. You can walk the narrow path of the law, as Jewish Jesus told his Jewish followers, unlike what Paul contradictorily declared. People who deny that you can obey the Law of the Most High are antinomians, lawless and wild.
@tokologomalatsi4160
@tokologomalatsi4160 Ай бұрын
@@ThePropriate The works come after salvation, they don't give you salvation. Salvation only comes by grace. It is Christ that said that the fruitless branch will be chopped off and used for fire. which supports the idea that your faith in Him must bear fruit. Love you brother
@ThePropriate
@ThePropriate Ай бұрын
@@tokologomalatsi4160 With all due respect, that view originates in Paul's letters and contradicts the teaching of Jesus. Remember that Jesus said that if you have an issue with your brother when you go to offer your sacrifice, go fix the problem with your brother and then come back and do your sacrifice. At that time you will be given grace and forgiveness. You must do righteous works to repair what you have done wrong first. Otherwise, you are conforming to the words of Paul and not Jesus. Jesus had God inside him. Paul did not. Be careful who you put as an idol before God. I hope this has blessed you.
@thomasrhodes5013
@thomasrhodes5013 Жыл бұрын
Tabor, your argument is emotionally compelling but neglected to elucidate what advantages were afforded to Annas for this initiative of his order. I agree with your perspective - so please get up from the table Mr. Tubby and answer our questions.
@jamiehargett7176
@jamiehargett7176 11 ай бұрын
JAMES WROTE TO JEWS PAUL WROTE TO THE GENTILES.
@georgeelmasry9376
@georgeelmasry9376 Жыл бұрын
I thought that Josephus's reference in the James story was to a different Jesus. This was just priests at each other's throats.
@truerealist757
@truerealist757 Жыл бұрын
It is possible in my view that the Hebrew mind/psychological disposition was in some sense completely hostile to the Gospel. And although God was able to bring a clean thing out of an unclean thing and a straight out of a crocked that the non-Hebrew mind provided a more fertile ground. Jesus hinted at these things when he said one puts new wine in new bottle skins. The Hebrew mind was a very constricted one the non-Hebrew mind demonstrated in the elastic mind of Paul is the better wineskin into which to put the ever advancing and ever expanding Gospel of Christ. I perceive a coldness in the Hebrew mind. A kind of distance as they see the Christ more through a earthly kingship mentality. The "gentile" I think furnished Christianity with the worshipful personal God dwelling in the heart that has brought in a real compassionate/passionate love. Somewhat like how the Romans roads network gave a free passage to spread the word and the Greeks a language that affords abstract thought. For we were by and large entering the age of the "spirit and truth" worship. A religion void of all external paraphernalia and dependent totally on an internal system spiritual thoughts. I could be wrong.
@ThePeedr
@ThePeedr Жыл бұрын
False! The canon had already been accepted by the early Christians prior to the 4th C. If you are referring to the Council of Nicea the books of the canon were not even discussed.
@MR-dm1gx
@MR-dm1gx 3 ай бұрын
The Bogumils in the Balkans had Jamse's Biblle. And were persecuted by the Catholic church.
@integrationalpolytheism
@integrationalpolytheism 3 ай бұрын
Hmm, it's a surprise to listen to this again and realise that Dr Tabor is actually making the case that the Greek letter of James is written by the actual illiterate Aramaic speaking James from the book of Galatians and Corinthians! By contrast, most scholars would point out that it's much more likely to be a Greek writer using Paul, and the synoptic gospels, as sources. The verses quoted in this video are the main evidence for this. PS and the book of Jude as well! Fringe, for sure, and evidence would be required. Fascinating, nonetheless.
@Erfan
@Erfan Ай бұрын
So, it appears that the faith of James and the Jerusalem church, while lost to gentile christians who flirted with idolatry by way of Paul and his ilk, was later to be found in the teachings of the prophet Mohammed. Including the coming kingdom of God the Father, ushered in by his servant, Isa of Nazareth (Jesus, using the Greek term), after his second coming.
@alexxela8956
@alexxela8956 3 ай бұрын
He sounds like Jesus
@annwilson-rawi3760
@annwilson-rawi3760 Жыл бұрын
Paul led them astray. Still doing it.
@dmaxwell167
@dmaxwell167 Жыл бұрын
His name was Jacob not James. His name has meaning. “for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel” (Isaiah 44:23). Clue
@camilleespinas2898
@camilleespinas2898 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever think, Dr. Tabor, that you are Jame’s the Just reincarnated?
@Monkofmagnesia
@Monkofmagnesia Жыл бұрын
Was not Thomas Jesus' identical twin brother (which is why Judas had to signnal Jesus out in the garden so the soldiers arrested the right person)?
@user-pi8em7mm8z
@user-pi8em7mm8z 4 ай бұрын
You all deaf when spoke plain
@user-oh9pv3iv5m
@user-oh9pv3iv5m 9 ай бұрын
James was the Beloved Disciple who wrote the Johannine works. His writings created the belief that Jesus was the only son of god. He was wrong .
@micahimpanis3713
@micahimpanis3713 Жыл бұрын
Take up your staff and follow me.
@JayWiraatmaja
@JayWiraatmaja Жыл бұрын
The messages of Paul is not only by Paul. It is also clear from the Gospel of John. I think several points here was not accurate. Please be careful.
@jdaze1
@jdaze1 Жыл бұрын
James' brother was John the Baptist (also the same as the apostle and Revelator) who received his NEW NAME of Salvation (Hebrew Yeshua) at his spiritual birth at the Jordan, the same new name all firstborn sons of the spirit receive. Revelation 3:12. The chosen elect who are prophets, witnesses, suffering servants, kings, high priests. The saviors who gather in the lost flock. James 5:20. The seed/offspring of David. The light of salvation was personified in the gospels as a separate god-man. It was actually John speaking Salvation (word of God) to the people. John the old man 1st Adam vs his new man, last Adam. It was the same man whos was dualized as two men. We all have dual natures if we are born from above while in our earthly bodies. We must crush our old man, the Satan, so the new man can live. All elect firstfruits sons born of the light are divine eloheim not Elohiem. The coming of the LORD in Isaiah 40:3 was personified as a human being in the gospels. The anointed one is the spirit that is born in his elect firstborn sons. The light that rises within us.
@soniachoa1603
@soniachoa1603 Жыл бұрын
This is because the evangelist continues to b mistakenly thought to b the "beloved" of Jesus
@whig01
@whig01 Жыл бұрын
No crucifixion was ever done at the hands of any priest, it was a Roman punishment.
@amalgamating
@amalgamating 5 ай бұрын
Joshua was not crucified, he went to France. Thats a paulean creation mythos.
@hansdemos6510
@hansdemos6510 Жыл бұрын
I am not an expert by any means, but I have read the account Josephus gives of the death of James, the brother of Jesus, and it seems to me that this passage bears all the hallmarks of having been tampered with in order to make it seem as if the "James" and the "Jesus" that are mentioned are the ones we all know and love from the New Testament. In the context, it seems much more plausible to me that the "James" and "Jesus" mentioned are the sons of Damneus, and that that the clause _"..., who was called Christ, ..."_ after the mention of "Jesus" was just inserted by some well-meaning Christian scribe. If you take out this single clause, I don't think there is any way you can read the passage as referring to anyone else than the sons of Damneus.
@Ucedo95
@Ucedo95 Жыл бұрын
Contemporary scholars actually consider the Luke&Acts' author to use Josephus as source, and that passage as true.
@hansdemos6510
@hansdemos6510 Жыл бұрын
@@Ucedo95 I know, and like I said, I am not an expert, but even so, I cannot read that passage and think anything other than that the "Jesus" and "James" mentioned there are the sons of Damneus. The passage makes so much more sense that way, that it is impossible for me to agree with the experts on this.
@wingrider1004
@wingrider1004 13 күн бұрын
Paul did not contradict James...only a bad Sunday school teacher would teach this. Do some research.
@torilllundborn7899
@torilllundborn7899 Жыл бұрын
Paulus loved Jesus Messiah over ALL things and he preach the supernatural greatness of Him..
@blacktwitterforlaughs4743
@blacktwitterforlaughs4743 Жыл бұрын
This is more similar to the Jesus of ISLAM than the Jesus of Christianity
@Darisiabgal7573
@Darisiabgal7573 Жыл бұрын
Lol, Mt Tabor on the Just😎 Nice work, but I think we need some qualifyers here on the epistles of Jude and James. The epistle of jude, Judas, was supposed to be written by Yahudah brother of Yeshua_. This authority has problems. Tomas (Yahudah Dumas) is supposed to be the brother of Yeshu_ but by some his twin (dumas) brother. In the syriac tradition Dumas traveled about the east and eventually went to India in 52CE. As dumas traveled in syriac circles the written language he would have used is syriac, an aramaic derivative that was still used until recently and is still read among syriac christians. In their tradition, the fate of Dumas in Indus was not learned for hundreds of years. Whereas Dumas was in India scholars place the epistle between 65ish and 100 CE, after Dumas had supposedly had departed, but according to lore he lived to about 70-75 CE. But the letter mentions nothing of India or his sojourns in SW asia. So the Yahudah of the epistle could not be 'that' brother, he must have been some other brother of Yeshu_? Another brother who wrote greek? It seems the provenance of this epistle has at least a couple of question marks. The epistle of Jude is part of another of another mystery. 2 Peter, a favorite source amoung protestant clergy in Sunday services, but is a chimera of different source material and almost certainly not petrine. Among its problems it appears that an editor sliced Jude into a dozen pieces and wove his sermonal theology between the pieces, going so far as to denounce those that are writing false works (you know like the king of fake news calling the news fake). The epistle of James (Yacov) is less troubled than Jude but still troubled. When the church fathers got around to create a wall around their doctrine, the fall out was that the Evyon's fractured descendants, the ebionites were declared neither christian or Jew. And at least in definition this was correct. While it is certainly true that the epistle of James represented a conservative piety of second temple adherance, it should be noted that the Q source according to DR McDonald does not employ the christ title once. Moreover, among the Evyon, Yacov was the more conservative. We can see this in Paul's letter where he remarks upon Cephas for fearing association with gentiles when Yacov's watchers were about. There is no doubt that among the 'Jesus Movement' that Yacov had a low christology, but how exactly low was this. We could assume that both the Baptizer and Yeshu_ had prophet status. Within the culture people like Cyrus were deemed messiah, and we also know there are beliefs in a messianic pair, a priestly and davidic messiah. So that Yacov might have though of Yeshu_ as the priestly messiah. If that were the case then Q, didache and the heresiologies might have mentioned this. The problem with priestly designation is that the priest needs to have authority to perform rituals, and its rather difficult to assume authority from a small band of itenerate followers. The Davidic messiah is something I consider a city-State tradition, pagan notions. One might be pulled to think well the Deuteeonomic history of the late conquest overemphasizes the violent nature of the Israelites. But David is more than violent, he is disrespectful, engages in sexual behaviors that would be considered pagan, fights for the enemies of Israel, and commits religious sacriledge. The image we have of David is a bad-ass fair weather loyalist of Israel, with an emphasis on bad-ass. What we see in the story is that David is a Power symbol, as Samuel would say, so you want a king, here is what you are going to get. As Israel follows him he is a good King, but as it turns so does he. Sound familiar? Narcissistic Yahweh of Judah? Does this sound anything like Yeshu_: a voice in the desert, a mystic in a cave, a blessing on a hillside? And when exactly was Yeshu_ anointed, his baptism, a self-revealed mystical experience? The third level of messiah comes from the behavior, as the baptizer and Yacov both stood up to tyranny (Herod and Ananus) we could call the lesser messiahs in the vein of king cyrus. But Yeshu_ did what? turned tables in the gentil quarter of the temple, hardly credible. What injustice did he exactly stand up to? In Q he makes note that the sword of his tongue was to cut yahudah apart because they were bad vineyard custodians. Or was it the fact that he saved a sinful woman from her sinful persecutors? Was it his treatment of Samaratins? Lingering among the poor, sinners and tax collectors? When I look for a most conservative reason for his execution, I find that herod Antipas in need of allies warmed up to Pilate, and when he heard that Yeshu_ was in Judea had his allies in the sanhedrin capture Yeshu_ and coherced Pilate to execute him, quietly, with as few followers around to witness the transpiring event. Yes, it is possible that the Evyon saw this as a grave injustice and that the unrighteous sacrificed the righteous to save sinner skin. What Yeshu_ really stood for was apocalyptic judaism and the Saducees and Herodians did not. From Yeshu_'s point of view it was mystic reinforcement, but from Yacov's point of view did he see that as crazy (See Mark)? But Yacov was painfully aware of the tricky politics in Jerusalem and he walked a fine line between the watchful eyes of the saducees (anti-apocalyptic) and the mystical desires of the disciples to expand their messaging to wider categories of the Yahweh reverent. He went so far as to gaun the respect of many Jews as being 'the Just'. Saying that Yeshu_ was either a priestly or kingly messiah would have had negative consequences, but I could see him using the messianic lingo in a limited context if Yacov really believed Herodian influence was a plague on Israel. The Epistle of James (Yakov) is not written in galillean aramaic or hebrew but in greek. The title he uses for Yeshu_ is similar to Paul's. While Paul's notion of anointment is both transcendent and kingly, there is no reason to believe that Yacov believed either. Thus these two passages minimally are interpolations. The rest of the text fits into Jewish notions but could be from practically any Jewish member of the movement. I personally fall into the camp that Yacov is the aramaic source of the letter, but I need to be clear that its a 'Christian' hand that translated and inscribed it and for that James appears christian in name, but not in doctrine. Yacov would fall in the camp of people Paul calls the anti-christ. They know of Jesus and have seen his deeds and yet they do not believe in the christology that Paul believes in. Rabbi Micheal Skobac has three videos on the epistle of James at Tenakh Talk. These videos are well worth watching as he goes through each chapter. What we gain from the videos is what evyon peity looks like. For anyone wanting to join the modern Nazarene movements these videos will be eye-opening. The Nazarenes of today are not the Nazarenes of the first century. Note: The idea of anointment in the Jewish context is extremely complex, I must admit. I want to point out the ceremony was practiced in syroanatolian city-states and assyria in an earlier period as well as egypt. The authority of the ceremony in Samuel appears ad-hoc. The key problem I see in the OT is that the transition from canaanite religion and Judaism appears to transition around Eli and the loss of the Ark and demise of Shiloh. It is unclear whether Eli was a Elyonist, a splinter sect of Geirizim, or Yahwist. But by the time the Ark reaches Jerusalem, Jahwism is on the rise and David is at the center of it. This may be an Akhenaten moment in Israel and the anointment notion is borrowed from Egypt in an effort to create a sense of Holy that could not be derived from Israel tribal notions. Again I can only see the pagan-magick nature of its meaning. When I see religious groups emphasizing the christ it appears that they are either trying to fashion a new god or split a god into greco-roman attributes.
@antoniopetra6983
@antoniopetra6983 Жыл бұрын
Can you place chapters on your post?
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse Жыл бұрын
His teaching doesn't contradict Paul, nice bias there. Not everybody should be teachers.
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 Жыл бұрын
Paul says eating meat offered to idols is ok.
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse Жыл бұрын
@@thegallantsaint2034 No, he says if someone tells you it is don't eat it. He said if you're in the market and buy meat and don't know if someone did or not, you will be okay ( because there's no way of knowing, are you going to eat nothing? )
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 Жыл бұрын
​@@LoftOfTheUniverse Your example of not knowing is another matter. I want to point out that Paul teaches contrary to Jesus in _wilfully_ eating meat sacrificed to idols. If you read 1 Corinthians Ch 8, Paul basically says if one's conscience is weak, and another with a stronger conscience influences the weaker to eat meat sacrificed to idols, then you sin against the Messiah. However, if your conscience is strong, and you wilfully eat sacrificed to idols, then it's ok. This is bizarre. Please read what Jesus said about this matter in Revelation 2:14. If Paul does not contradict Jesus, then Paul would unequivocally say that eating meat sacrificed to idols is a sin, period.
@LoftOfTheUniverse
@LoftOfTheUniverse Жыл бұрын
@@thegallantsaint2034 No, Paul isn't telling people to eat meat sacrificed to idols. He's accurately saying all that meat is just meat regardless of a false idol that is nothing. If you never were a pagan it probably wouldn't bother you. If I were a pagan, then a convert, it would probably mess me up. Paul was saying to be considerate of weaker people who feel that it compromises them. Paul ALSO says: 1 cor 10:25-32 and both passages need to be read together instead of ripped out individually. Jesus said it's what comes out of a man's mouth that makes them unclean, not what goes in.
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 Жыл бұрын
@@LoftOfTheUniverse Revelation 2:14 - it is clear where Jesus stands on this matter. There's no ambiguity. James (the brother of Jesus) says in Acts 15:20 "but to write to them to hold back from the _pollutions_ _of_ _idols_ , and from fornication, and from things strangled, and blood." 1 Cor 10:25-32 is just as contradictory, as Paul tells us not to at least examine whether this meat is polluted/defiled. You mentioned "Jesus said it's what comes out of a man's mouth that makes them unclean, not what goes in." - Matt 15:1-20. The context in which Jesus was speaking was regarding the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. They tell everyone to keep the dietary laws about what is clean/unclean/washing hands yet they speak lies and have evil thoughts. So morally, they are filthy; and no amount of clean foods/hygiene is able to offset this. The moral laws take precedence over dietary laws. Because you linked the dietary laws to eating defiled meat, so I am anticipating the question: "Is eating meat sacrificed to idols just an extension of dietary laws?" The answer is no. Eating meat sacrificed to idols goes beyond the act of just eating. Paul argues that eating is just eating. But Jesus obviously takes exception to this. It is appeasing false pagan gods and it it violates the commandment of "you shall have no other gods before Me." God detests it. Paul's argument is akin to saying adultery is just sex.
@HHasan-of2vi
@HHasan-of2vi Жыл бұрын
Hadith on Maryam: Why Mary is called sister of Aaron Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse, ‘O sister of Aaron,’ (19:28) but Moses was born long before Jesus by many years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said, “Verily, they used to name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had passed before them.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2135 Grade: Sahih (authentic)
@fluentreasoningchannel5778
@fluentreasoningchannel5778 Жыл бұрын
Mary is called the sister of Aaron because your false prophet was an illiterate caravan robber who confused Mary the mother of Jesus, with Miriam (Mary) the sister of Moses. If your false prophet could read, he would know that these women lived fourteen centuries apart. I find it amazing that you would arbitrarily cite his dumbness, without recognizing that what you cite, authenticates your silly beliefs as false.
@HHasan-of2vi
@HHasan-of2vi Жыл бұрын
@@fluentreasoningchannel5778 Try to understand, don't jump to conclusion.
@fluentreasoningchannel5778
@fluentreasoningchannel5778 Жыл бұрын
@@HHasan-of2vi So that you may know that I’m not jumping to conclusions and that I know precisely what I am talking about… the “sister of Aaron” was laughed at, even back when Muhammad was asserting that the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron. When confronted by Christians about this error, Muhammad’s response was that people during the time of Mary was to refer to pious persons as the sister of…. See Sahih Muslim 5326 We have no record of such a practice in first century Israel, nor do we have this practice elsewhere in the Quran. The obvious conclusion is that Muhammad made a mistake and tried to correct it, by making something up. The Christians at that time rejected this explanation (sister of Aaron as a metaphor) because they knew nothing of this practice. Moreover, in Ibn Kathir’s commentary on Sura 19:28 we read that Aisha, states “you have lied” when defending the authenticity of the Quran. That is, someone tells Aisha that Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary the sister of Aaron aren’t the same person and she calls him a liar. See Q66:12, where the confusion and error is unequivocally certified. “And Mary, daughter of Imran…” Sahih al-Bukkari 3769 “Maryam, the daughter of Imran…” Imran is the father of Moses. Are these verses metaphors too? The Quran identifies Mary the mother of Jesus, as the sister of Aaron and as the daughter of Imran. You place your trust in a silly book… that is not the word of God.
@user-uo6nv8pf6k
@user-uo6nv8pf6k 3 ай бұрын
Levites dead, gone from Israel.
@seamuscharles9028
@seamuscharles9028 Жыл бұрын
James at the time of writing did not feel it necessary to point to the miracles of Jesus or his rising from the dead as it would have been still in the memory of all around him Is the shroud of Turin,something that still cannot be reproduced a statement of Jesus the Christ particularly now that a computer has been used to read it and production thereof a model of a crucified person with all the scars of Jesus
@leighanneparis6236
@leighanneparis6236 Жыл бұрын
I understand that you are a scholar and not a ritualistic person, but the Holy Trinity is the esoteric reality come to life in the person of Jesus the Son of God and the archetype energy of the Ever Virgin, in the person of Mary to claim the Adamic birthright of all created things from Red Dragon who refused to worship the Most High and has no birthright to all of creation. As Paul witnessed Jesus the Glorified King, Mary is the Queen of Heaven!
@Alex18NY
@Alex18NY 4 ай бұрын
James Tabor's finest moment.
@k.arlanebel6732
@k.arlanebel6732 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Tabor, on one level I enjoyed this video very much. It's very informative and well presented. But another level it just made me uncomfortable because I can't clarify to myself what your motive could be. You are not a believing Christian of any sort. If you had been alive in Jerusalem at the time of James the Just you would not have been a member of that church. In fact, I have no reason to believe that you would have even been interested in it. Your seemingly ardent support for James and his church is nothing but support for the bare facts history with no religious belief associated with it in any way. If you were the head of this church it would be nothing but an agnostic/atheist community with certain social values. And I think the only reason you prefer this church to a church headed by somebody like Paul is because you see its values as closer to your values, but with no religious meaning at all. So I'm having a hard time not seeing you as just narcissistic and maybe even neurotic. If I am totally off the mark here then please correct me and if you do so convincingly, I will sincerely apologize.
@Tom-sd9jb
@Tom-sd9jb 7 ай бұрын
Maybe he does believe in God but feels uncomfortable with scripture and struggles to believe it. Maybe he is trying to seek a truth.
@jdewit8148
@jdewit8148 Жыл бұрын
I guess you need to be a Jew to understand James. Christ's message went constantly against the laws of the Pharisees and Sadducees, that is part of why they wanted to kill him. He was their law breaker.
@montymartell2081
@montymartell2081 Жыл бұрын
Jesus never existed James never existed Moses never existed God never existed why don't you talk about that dude
@whidoineedthis
@whidoineedthis 5 ай бұрын
Your grandma never existed either
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