MATRIX SUBMERGED - BOMB FISHING with Jamie Hughes

We're back with another great episode of Matrix Submerged. This time Rob Hughes goes under the water to reveals some secrets about all things bomb fishing with Jamie Hughes. From feeding pellets, to bomb fishing rigs, popped up bread and we may even reveal a secret that Jamie has been keeping up his sleeve for the past couple of years! Join us at Bishops Bowl fishery, as we go under the surface!
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[@stephenmonaghan5766]

These are just absoutle gold, when we have arguably the best commercial fisherman in the country and he's getting lessons learnt and eye openers how can we not learn from this. Also kudos to Jamie as he's no ego at all some top guys might not want to be seen as a fool. Jamie just loves it and learns..... Hats off to the Hughes'

[@barrienorman404]

I was gripped for the whole hour, very interesting and what an angler Jamie is!

[@TheLedworks]

You should look at maggots and how far they move when loose fed. Even if fed tight in a pile i feel live maggots can move into a 5m square after a few mins of crawling about

[@texbirchall6175]

Really interesting like being at school watching Jamie Hughes 👍 your vidz help a lot thanks mate

[@gregbiddle670]

That has just destroyed my bomb fishing, in open water I think I will have to rely on a method feeder and only use the bomb if I am fishing to a feature, for catapulting bait with any kind of accuracy. If Jamie struggled to get it right, then I have not got a chance. Tremendous video, thanks so much for opening my eyes to how far away we can be fishing from our freebies. Mind seriously BLOWN.

[@Balloo0123]

Maybe match fishing needs to have a cross over from the carp anglers when it comes to bomb fishing. PVA bags or nets or baiting up with cage feeders prior the the bomb.

[@topfuelteddy]

Ian Smith been putting pva bags on method feeder base for 10 years at least .

[@leeprice7810]

16:05 min in , what an eye opener .

[@damianbracken3126]

These are the best fishing / match fishing videos by far, the way both you guys combine with excellent analysis and expertise is just brilliant - keep them coming please. In terms of new ideas for filming, footage of feeding fish taking bait shallow and different rigs? Clay Pit crystal clear in summer?

[@thebookstar1]

Love this video really helpful..I'd like to see a submerged on a deep ish venue with ground bait to see what the spread is like how it breaks down and to see if how far it spins away from where you pot it in..

[@stephenmonaghan5766]

Would love to see the difference from potting in at say 16 meters on a deep venue to balling it in like they do on the international river matches. Wonder what the spread is like

[@paulsomersetwolf5970]

What an eye opener that was the length of time 18 seconds for the pellets to reach the bottom in 8ft how Jamie's pellets he fed never went near his Hook bait the faster a 6m would fall over a 8m pellet and the bread which I always thought would pop up off the bottom just amazing what I've learnt thanks Jamie, Rob, and matrix.👍

[@vincedowling4777]

I can't find the words, this is extremely good. Good discussion, good analysis and great honesty. THANK YOU.

[@jamesatkinsfishing]

Brilliant video matrix well done, love all my matrix gear 😎🤪

[@malcolmnock4321]

You two guys are fantastic, well done.

[@davidgerman5073]

Great video again, yes distance over water is shocking also the bread. I’d live to see a video on feed in rivers to see how far it actually travels depending on the bait and then additives to ground bait to make it sink and when fish feed over ground bait or bait via a dropper does that then move down stream, maybe mark pollard at the embankment in Bedford

[@matr5110]

I feel live a small pva bag may be the way, loose feed to draw them in then a concentration of pellets around the hook?

[@hishaamadam1460]

Would it be worth fishing a method then with pinging pellets over the top? Thinking aloud here

[@simonmoorcroft1417]

Was thinking exactly the same thing.

[@paulkerry69]

Feeder on rivers. Whats happening with the feed and is it really worth having a long hook link especially if there's barbel around

[@ifishmatrix]

River fishing is def on the list for next year

[@paulkerry69]

@@ifishmatrix well if you want somewhere that's fast shallow (depths around 6ft) and full of barbel on the trent let me know

[@whatnow3134]

@@paulkerry69 Id like to know tell me. Never caught a barbel. Can't find them near me

[@paulkerry69]

@@whatnow3134 trent is full of them.

[@whatnow3134]

@@paulkerry69 I have always wanted to go to the Trent. Just soooooo far away. This summer I'm going now though

[@owersd]

Another great video, these are videos are imo the best videos you can watch as it the only way to understand what you think is happening v reality. Please keep them coming.

[@Brucebogtrotterlovescake]

I find that if you pick a far bank marker and fully extend your arm holding the catty and pull the pouch bit back to your chest you can be pretty accurate with your pellets.

[@jonro09]

Looking forward to it guys...

[@grahamnash9794]

This series is getting more interesting with each episode. Regarding the spread of pellets, I thing there are several contributing factors. Please allow me;- The way the pellets are loaded in the pouch can be the first thing to be considered, although I can't see that having too much impact on how they land. For achieving accurate launching, we would have to look at how army chopper launch multiple missiles. They are all facing the exact same way, and are the exact distance from the exit point. We can't get that with a humble 'pult. The next thing is how the pellets actually move in flight. This is complete chaos, they twist and turn all over the place and only heading roughly in the same direction. That's because although the appear the same as each other, when we look closer, there are enough differences to affect the aerodynamic properties rendering each one different from the last in the air. Another factor is how the pellets make first contact with the water, they wall be spinning at differing rates of spin, and at varying angles, thus affect their individual trajectory before they even begin to sink. And the final factor is as the pellets wouldn't fly true because the little nuances that make them all different, will also affect the way they fall through the layers . Am I making sense? That brings mw to my next point. Would it by an idea to try "tea bags" to assist with better grouping? I was thinking that a PVA mesh may well melt whilst still falling through 8 or more feet of depth, there by giving a small spread on the deck, and of cousre, the hook bait just a few inches away. (Depending on hook length). Just an idea or two, I'm not trying to preach science, only throwing a bit of logic in the mix.

[@robertwren8878]

Never understood why the pult is shaped like a blunderbus that wasn't accurate either,they made fun of the launcher that Bob nudd used to endorse but it was accurate every time because of the shape of the vessel! The elastic just propelled it,not coned shaped with holes.

[@paulgarner6176]

Hi Jamie , Rob . with the 12in hook length have you thought about using silcone tubing to kick your hook length away from your lead .. from your swivel towards hook length , we use this in sea fishing to kick the hook length away from are lead

[@wilsonsully3578]

Awesome, a proper eye opener 👍🏻

[@catchclothinguk6026]

Absolutely loved this episode, Great work lads!

[@stevensculpher7229]

Great video jamie was very interesting thank you to all involved for this insight

[@leeprice7810]

Yeah definitely feeders on rivers .

[@tstan73]

Brilliant. Rebranded matrix pva bags coming our way soon then lol !

[@jaquesdaniels2964]

Great stuff , as an ex infantry (para) - I've always thought of loose feed by hand or catapult as an "area weapon" as the feed is gonna disperse , as one gent mentioned below , sticking pellets and also sweetcorn together could be one idea to improve grouping , there might be some mileage in looking at pouch design for 'pults , PVA bags and mesh may not be practical for match anglers ???? - casting accuracy awesome - that's why those top boys are at the top !.

[@prestongilding4231]

really interesting as always folks and well presented. it would have been interesting to see the catapulted bait spread via a drone to get a real sense of distance

[@justinmoseley3520]

Excellent video Rob and Jamie, could you look at bomb and small PVA bag, could it more accurate with feed than a catapult?

[@fredfoley4103]

Maggot feeder next please as I do not think it does what people imagine

[@alanmeasures8337]

Absolutely great vid lots of information loved it l am not a great fisherman but one point I would like to pick up on is would a bit of tungsten putty just behind the hook Wound that work as a pop-up with the bread with the half bollie on top

[@MrDaSoNe2009]

Awesome as always . 💪🏻💪🏻

[@tonyford768]

Great video, was wondering if the bread had been squashed down too much and may have been better not as compact and possibly with a lighter hook at Jamie suggested.

[@steveraynor2946]

Awesome Guy's thank you both very much, some surprising outcomes there, especially with the spread of the pellets. Looks totally different from the bank. Might just have a try with some different pouches to try and see what effect it has on the grouping. Once again thanks lads.

[@albion1953]

Well done guys, always interesting

[@carldyson9342]

Brilliant and informative video

[@jamiecook7359]

Cogs are turning. Catapulting bait is essential to attract fish, with noise and bait falling through water. But the wide spread isn’t concentrating enough to get the best of our pegs. Maybe, a floating feeder/ mini spod will be a new match aid to concentrate the feed. Literally, acting like a pole pot.

[@SaEAM86]

Brilliant

[@dalechamberlain2637]

Brilliant once again boys, my question would be to look at a different design to the catapult pouch as the grouping was obviously so sporadic! Maybe even the types of elastic?

[@malcrandall1309]

How about a Matrix Submerged video on the slow sinking feeder showing fall rates of the feed micro's and how loose feed 4mm pellets get affected by the current in deeper water. Hayton Lakes at Retford, Notts, is a great venue. It's deep and stuffed with mad F1's that respond to the slow sinker.

[@ifishmatrix]

Is it really clear? If there's any colour in the water you just wouldn't see. Ideally you need to be able to see the bottom even in 4ft of water

[@malcrandall1309]

@@ifishmatrix Hello Matrix, yes Hayton Lakes is a pretty clear water even in summer, normally it only colours up when it's being really windy. Iv'e spoken to Toby who is the manager there and suggested that you give him a phone call on 07508 903078 . There are 7 lakes there where I'm sure you would find some suitable water. Could I suggest Jamie Harrison comes for a days fishing and has a look round. Hayton is only 3 miles by road away from Hallcroft or 1/2 mile as the crow flies. Regards, Malc.

[@TheSudsy]

This is golddust. Did that carp look like a seal to anyone else?

[@sillybait1329]

Another great video, but what an eye opener I was surprised about the bait spread, maybe it’s time we used the tea bag method more often, the bread was a shock all this time we thought we were fishing popped up bread, I had my suspicions because I’ve often brought bits of weed back but now I know what happened looks like I’m going to put a sliced white pop up in between the bread, It would be nice to do a feature on the river with loose feeding over balled in gb and how a bait dropper works or not?

[@chrisblackwell2373]

Would using a different hook link material like braid or fluorocarbon (which i never see any match man use, why?) make a difference, and would the tea bag approach work better.

[@ifishmatrix]

In terms of where the pellet lands we’ve tried other Hooklengths and diameters previously and it never makes any difference. Rob think that you would need really think carp style set up for it it kick away from the lead.

[@chrisblackwell2373]

@@ifishmatrix What about the teabag approach, at least you should have small pile of feed near the hookbait, and is there any reason why braid or fluorocarbon isn't use as a hooklink material in match fishing.

[@davidshipman19]

Jamie, would it be helpful to stand up to fire your catapult so it’s easier to see where they land better. It’s been great watch thank you

[@kentonsmith6609]

Really surprised how the anglers view of casting into the loosefeed was so off, designated distance feed pults needed maybe?, like the groundbait ones used by slider anglers. Loved the bonus bread bit at the end, but was hoping you were going to top and tail two discs of bread with two discs of crust ( how i do it lol). Shall have to do a test now :) . Some canal an river content with roach ,bream etc would be nice to see.

[@simonmoorcroft1417]

So from now on...no more long hook links (thank god) , anything over 12" just hinders quick bite detection and lowers the chance of hooking up. Use an in-line bolt rig if you can get away with it. Add a small PVA bag of pellets to the hook and spray a small pouch of pellets over the top to 'ring the dinner bell' before you chuck. Use a stand out hook bait....either a red pellet or a larger bait or both. Maybe add a bit of extra attraction like some 'Goo'. Stick to using 6mm pellets when catapulting over the top so that get to the bottom fast if the range and conditions will let you.....leaving your stand-out hookbait with more 'hang time' in the bite zone. Put this all together and you should have more bait in a smaller area....and your hook pellet maybe the first thing they grab. Definately giving this a try. Oh and start on the bomb first and then try the pellet waggler second rather than the other way round. Its kind of ironic...if I think about the way I fish for big Carp..then doing all these things is a lot like accurately spodding and putting a high attraction boiliie hook bait right in the middle of that baited area. If you could fish this way it could probably work in a similar manner to fishing the method or hybrid feeder. Adding a PVA bag gives a concentrated mouthful of bait in a small area. Each bag you put in area adds more attraction. You could use a pellet-like wafter as a hook bait too. Critically balanced hookbaits are always good for me on the method.

[@davidjohnson8382]

Awesome video would of liked to see how the pellets spread with different catapult's and not so many in the pouch👍

[@trudyandy]

Great piece of camera and film work done by all the team and what an eye opener for us all. You wanted some questions and the one i have always wanted to know does the shape of paste matter to the extent that it sits in the right position and how long does some constancy last??

[@peterbell2314]

Great video to watch but would like to see pellets sinking when really windy with a strong tow to see how they sink to see if there anywhere near the bomb

[@neilwayte517]

sorry only just seen this so if its still being monitored feeding on flowing waters.I know its probably too tricky to do but that would be fantastic.

[@carlcrathorne7298]

Haven’t watched it yet it’s on at 8 but I just no it’s going to blow me away

[@rogerfjohnson2051]

Great video - Watched several times!! A thought in addition to the vast amount of information shared - would a helicopter rig with short twisted loop to kick out the pellet/hook length from the lead have advantages over a running ledger ?

[@ifishmatrix]

Maybe but most fisheries have the rule that the feeder must be free running on the line

[@lesliefrew8402]

Great video very informative ....

[@tangoimago]

Great video and really helpful! Question: instead of feeding pellets with the catapult, why not using soluble bags filled with pellets? Thank you in advance for your answer.

[@stephenpyner4156]

I can understand what you said about how long pellets take to sink, I just wonder if some pellets take longer than others due to their density as marine halibut pellets seem denser than plain pellets

[@cliffordjackson1791]

great vid lads

[@Scottsoutdoorchannel]

Cracking as usual, strange with the bread not popping up, I did an under water popped up bread video for my channel and 2 disks was enough to pop it up but I did use a different hook pattern and size, so I guess it's worth testing it in your sink at home before fishing it.......

[@ifishmatrix]

Not sure if the water pressure make any difference when you get into deeper water ?

[@Scottsoutdoorchannel]

@@ifishmatrix that's an interesting thought and something to consider.

[@DjDolHaus86]

If you were trying to concentrate your feed on a dinner plate it might be worth damping your feed pellet and lightly squeezing them into a ball before catapulting to minimise the spread? Accuracy is still going to be a massive problem though

[@crtwrght0ndrw]

Great video very informative got me wondering are you better to feed with PVA bags and are they effective in cold water

[@garethevans6192]

Great video would love some natural venues

[@wyrrie214]

and the cage feeder too.

[@jackdaw3160]

Maybe float fishing maggots. How they fall and best shot patterns

[@Northstar-Media]

Catapult accuracy is difficult to many variables, especially with different weights of bait ,wind length of pull, making every pull slightly different.

[@hishaamadam1460]

re bait spreading, should pva bags therefore be utilised more? or is the sound of pellets plopping worth losing the accuracy for?

[@simonchaddock3694]

How are the expanders hooked is it spiked?

[@lifeexperiences4969]

Thorght hook length was good .when it did hit the weed the bait sat on the top . Shorter hook length would of buried it . Just my thoughts.

[@mugpunter32]

How does Jamie hook expanders for feeder fishing ?

[@PatMo1888]

Hi Rob, brilliant learning experience watching these videos - and Jamie's casting is sublime. I had a thought about the bait to weight distance on the deck: when you cast a normal waggler setup, you feather the line to ensure that the weights down the line overshoot the weight on the float and thus theoretically the line lands straight. Is there not an argument for having some shots between the lead (or feeder) near or on the hooklength so that when the line hits the clip, these weights overshoot the lead and increase the distance from the lead to the hook? Or would it just land in a heap the same way? I'd like to find out.

[@ifishmatrix]

It would still have the same result as it's the lead or feeder that pulls the hook bait straight down as it falls.

[@trevorholmes7352]

i would of liked to see if a different catapult would of given a better pattern/accuracy of pellet over the area, but still a great watch and Jamie can cast very accurately

[@ifishmatrix]

Jamie was using a mixture of different brands Frame, elastic and pouch to give him what he considered to be the most accurate catapult possible.... and who are we to argue with him. It did look really accurate from the bank

[@gazzabowers1184]

Rob when Jamie win every big tournament from now on, have you got him to sign a contract to give you a percentage of his winnings ? after all this information.. 😂😂 take care. Gazza

[@hishaamadam1460]

perhaps we should be pinging stones/pebbles and casting PVA bags...best of the both worlds eh

[@benharris3034]

Couldn't see how Jamie puts the expanders on the hair rig, was it a spike or quick stop?

[@ifishmatrix]

Yes just with a Super Stop

[@tommos16]

I always wonder why match Angler’s don’t use small pva mesh ‘nuggets’ when bomb and pellet fishing. Surely the best way to guarantee bait accuracy

[@djharpin79chip]

They do ,its an extremely popular way of fishing in matches where allowed.

[@karlrance7669]

Is there any such thing as an accurate scatterplot ?

[@abdulmananvlogs9914]

Nice video from Pakistan

[@neostar4096]

any ideas on what pop up boilie jamie was using please? i'm meaning to try popped up bread on the bomb but not sure which boilies to buy

[@ifishmatrix]

any white pop up will work, I think those are spotted fin one though

[@jaywhy71]

Assuming Jamie has a swimming pool; and I dare see he has one. Failing that can you borrow one now they are closed? hows about showing how different rigs & shooting patterns actually fall through the water?

[@raycharm8950]

great seeing from a fishes eyes the bottom of lake beds, exactly what it's like underwater when you think your bait is on view and all along it could be resting in weed, not a good thought.

[@robertcourt8593]

So you proved that a heavier lead lands further out on the surface, presumably because of the stretch in the line and the flex of the rod but you never said where they both landed on the bottom. Surely if the line is clipped up and the rod is in the same place then they must be settling on the bottom in a similar place?

[@ifishmatrix]

No with the heavier lead it landed in the weeds so def landed further away as well

[@markdale7341]

Why does Jamie swing the lead forward before every cast?

[@slvmp666]

Make a method feeder one ore a cage feeder!

[@ifishmatrix]

We've done both, check out our submerged playlist

[@ronaldhadley1206]

Corn. Fishing

[@karlrance7669]

WOW! LOOKS LIKE Matrix need to work on a better catapult

[@ifishmatrix]

Jamie had a mixture of different brands frame, elastic and pouch to give him what he considered to be the most accurate catapult he can use. It wasn’t all matrix ;) .... we let Jamie use whatever he wants to get the job done

[@simonmoorcroft1417]

Don't think the catapult is the problem. Pellets are not aerodynamic...so maybe mini-boiies would be better. But the truth is that human eye and brain are not accurate enough to consistently range-find without a lot of visual clues and I am absolutely sure that Jamie is much better with a catapult than most of us.

[@britishbluetess]

First😂👍🏻

[@stokecarpanglers]

The amount of adverts is a joke. Good video though

[@meuczyii]

FU

[@chrisbyard3033]

Very interesting. Giles Cochrane was using heavy leads and short hook lengths years ago and he used to empty venues.

[@toyotatechMDT]

Brilliant again lads. Rob, I could listen to you for hours! Great footage. Jamie, your casting sickens me. 😒

[@greenseb71]

How do you cast that accurately? He's an alien.

[@grumpygrandad1216]

Casting as tight as a shoe box, I can’t cast as accurately as a shoe shop 😂

[@robertwren8878]

Awestruck. Got to know what is the process with the expanders,would very much like to give that a try please.💓

[@werftv4580]

over here in the US... chumming isn't legal most places.. if you can cast accurately, pack bait over time will give you amazing results.. pack bait is widely underestimated on y'all side of the world...

[@gavinmccully6960]

To stop the spread being too far would it be worthwhile trying the equivalent of a stickymag type approach, binding the pellets together into a ball but with a substance that allows them to easily break apart on hitting the water?

[@whatnow3134]

Would it be worth attaching a small mesh bag of half a dozen pellet. I've just learned a mountain from this video. 58.26 rob getting attacked by a spider. 😎Thanks guys

[@philipbraithwaite8384]

Thanks Rob and Jamie you really are taking our match knowledge to new depths.🧜‍♂️🌊🤿

[@andreim841]

Oh yeah Rob, you are still Jamie's PB after he nailed you in the finger 😂👍

[@bigdav47]

I can't even profess to be as good an angler as Jamie Hughes ...or ever will be, but the way he catypults generally seems wrong, with too many moving parts to be accurate, a bit like a darts throw or golf swing, the less complicated the more accurate it is. Mind you, we don't need him to be better do we.😉Great vid as always.

[@chrisbarlow8376]

I think the bread didnt stay up was because jamie compressed the bread punch against his finger pushimg air out. If you thoow a piece of bread flake in water it floats, compress it, it sinks. Just a thought, good accuracy though jamie

[@senojekim579]

Hi from NZ, the catapult should be let go just before the target as comes up to it. That is according to my shotgun experience. If a shot gun is shot at the target you will always miss.

[@jameslawler3785]

Maggot fishing on the pole. How long does it take for them to settle? what’s the footprint like on the bottom? are they eaten before they get to the bottom? Do they wriggle away or into the silt?