MATRIX SUBMERGED - PELLET WAGGLER FISHING (Is it really that bad!?)

The Pellet Waggler - One of the most commonly used match fishing methods to catch carp and F1's on pellets during the summer time. But are we fishing this up-in-the water method effectively? We put Jamie Hughes to the test, to see what actually happens under the water, and how you can IMPROVE your PELLET WAGGLER fishing!
Matrix Fishing TV is home to a huge collection of match and coarse fishing videos. With clips and films ranging from, The Matrix Submerged with Rob Hughes, The Matrix Mission where we challenge our top consultants and the Matrix Mini Masterclass with Jamie Hughes, Mark Pollard, Jon Arthur, Jamie Harrison and the rest of the Matrix team. We also bring you the very latest product videos so you can find out more about our new releases. At Matrix we pride ourselves on manufacturing quality fishing tackle for Match anglers, club anglers and pleasure anglers who simply enjoy coarse fishing. Our product and tips videos will give you an insight into how to pick the right rod, pole or reel. Which is the best fishing box for your style of fishing. What line and hooks to use for feeder fishing or pole fishing and what is the best pellet waggler to use to suit the conditions. Our aim at Matrix is for you to catch more fish. We hope you enjoy our videos and if you do please like, share and comment.
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[@chrispage1888]

just stumbled accross this video, I've learnt more on this than the other 20+ I've watched!

[@ifishmatrix]

Glad it helps :)

[@lawrencem4811]

What an awesome insight into pellet waggler fishing and the behaviour of different pellets when oiled or straight out the bag. Thank you so much. You both are awesome with your knowledge and tips. Tight Lines

[@stephenwilliams262]

Another eye opener from the Hughes Boys. So many questions answered. Brilliant again.

[@JeffOrtega33]

Fantastic video again complete eye openers love the concept thanks again Matrix team

[@MrHullRockers]

Excellent analysis and advice from Rob and Jamie.

[@jamesatkinsfishing]

very interesting rob and jamie very good filming aswell thank you both

[@000Karesz000]

This pellet waggler thing is really interesting. First of all, I am doing it on a gravel mine/quarry pit, in deep water (at least 4 meter and deeper). It works really well in the nice weather from mid Spring to early Autumn specially when you can see the fishes jumping out of the water. Do not want to question anything we saw here, but the fishes on the lake where I do this method do not really come to the absolute surface. I am usually starting at 150-180 cm (5-6 feet) and shallowing up until around 120 cm. I hook a few right after the wag and pellet landing, but I found out that I have more bites after around 30 seconds. I usually use catapult 2 times after a cast, with about 10 secs diff. I have not seen anyone else doing this method, so I can say the fishes are not really used to this. I have tried to do the very active way, cast - catapult - get out - catapult - cast, so about 3 casts/minute, but I slow down because the fishes more likely stay deeper and the pellet should have time to sink at the proper depth. Anyway this is the most enjoyable way of fishing for me besides the pole fishing for barbel in a big river.

[@lLpiero]

Üdv. Hány grammos úszókat használ leginkább a mély banyatavakon? Ki szeretném próbálni én is egy mélyebb kavicsbánya tóban (6-7m) ezt a módszert.

[@000Karesz000]

@@lLpiero lehető legkisebbet. 5gr-tol van sorban majdnem mindegyikből, tán csak 9gr hiányzik. Leggyakrabban a 6gros kerül a botra. Ha nagyobb szél van, a 8gros. Simán lehet dobni 20-25 méterre lágy és keményebb 330as bottal is.

[@lLpiero]

@@000Karesz000 Köszönöm válaszát! Eddig jól telepített kisebb tavakon próbáltam ahol 4,6 gr a favorit. De szerintem fölkerül majd a 8as is , mert gerincesebb botot kell majd hasznalnom a halak méretei miatt. Legjobbakat!

[@000Karesz000]

@@lLpiero hacsak a távolság és a körülmények (szél, vagy a bot) nem indokolják, használd a lehető legkisebbet. Onnan még mindig tudsz feljebb lépni, ha kell. Én inkább a lágyabb botot ajánlom, és az elég laza féket, bár sokszor kikapcsolt visszaforgás gátlóval fárasztok. Ahol horgaszom ott szükség van erre, mert nagyon heves kapasok vannak és főleg a kisebb halak bolondok. A nagyok (5+) inkább lassan, komótosabban húznak, nincs kezdeti 20méteres kitörések. A lágyabb botom Drennan Acolyte Carp Waggler 11", a keményebb Browning CK Carp Waggler 11" 20gr. Nyilván nem egy kategória a két bot, de a lágyabb Drennan-nal vékonyabb cuccal is kijönnek a nagyobb halak.

[@philnotley5138]

I occasionally get one just letting the bait hang for 10/20 seconds if no bite feed wind in feed again cast into feed

[@pedrobandino5391]

Great video, thanks, keep them coming

[@iainwatson5257]

I’m planning on giving this a go at the weekend - hopefully it’ll not be too cold a day!

[@harleeb9061]

I would love to see jamie do one of these on method and banjo style feeders up to islands

[@ptaylor5014]

Always love these underwater videos, we learn so much.

[@alanperry2229]

Eye opener lads thanks🏃‍♂️🐟🐟

[@michaelallcock6215]

Entertaining and educational video, well presented. Thanks!

[@Zombie-fb5zf]

Very informative thank you guys

[@ccke-juicehardwarereviews8668]

This video is so helpful thank you very much 👍🏻

[@jonro09]

Great information gents. Thank you 🙏

[@michaelbottomley2520]

It’s brilliant to see what happens under the water when you cast floats etc

[@johnstrutt6998]

excellent stuff guys

[@user-og2wr3bh8v]

I loved the hands behind the back game at the beginning.

[@markrayton6385]

Excellent video as always. Very interesting and that brolly in the water 🤣

[@chriskidd2943]

There is one very good point in this video and I first heard it from the great Tommy Pickering during one of his presentations, 'don't sit on a bad cast'. I always remember it but have certainly been guilty in the past of leaving it longer than I should.

[@markryan7824]

These 2 are class 👏👌

[@Tony-ve4se]

Love this vid it's one of them, do we as Fishermen/women get it right as to what we think is happening to what is really happening 😁 love it mate 👍👍

[@alamocannon3791]

Jamie giving away what he already knew. One of the best match anglers around.

[@kevshouse2]

Man's becoming a legend 🙌

[@SIDARI98]

excellent as ever,

[@HARDYSFISHINGADVENTURES]

Iv just bought a pellet waggler rod going to try it with corn some huge Rudd on my local

[@colinqpr5395]

Great video. I think a wafter is a good bait when used on a shorter hooklength.

[@lifeexperiences4969]

Be a good switch bait possibly

[@schoetersfrank]

Brilliant video ;)

[@chriskelly8285]

wow, amazing info. Thank you lads brilliant.

[@ifishmatrix]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Ps5_legend]

Thanks for this now I’m going to catch loads more on the pellet waggler now

[@martingill861]

Great video! I wonder if twitching the waggler has a different more worthy effect on a shorter hooklength at a shallower depth say 2ft?

[@allanwithers8509]

Really interesting

[@jonro09]

Really interesting information guys as usual....😊

[@ifishmatrix]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@dannii312]

i do it this way: catapult the pellets, than just cast 1-2 metres further and reel it in on the sinking pellets . perfect presentation .

[@majmat]

I've stopped the pellet spin by drilling them through the middle, end to end with 8mm/11mm pellets then hair rigging them. If they do spin they won't tumble end over end, but spin like a record on a Technics 12/10. Around and around. lol

[@johnmarron1944]

Very good video again guys . But I always cast past my feeding area and bring it back in ..

[@islandangler1351]

Would your choice of hook link affect the fall rate of the pellet, The go to Fluorocarbon hook link is naturally faster sinking than a pre stretched line so does the line pull the pellet down? Many thanks on a great video.

[@Crapdraw1]

I think the 2 bits I will really take is 1 ,, concentrate on the best cast as possible ,,, and 2 I will NOT oil my pellets or at at least the hookbaits so they sink slower .. brilliant eye opener ..thanks

[@lifeexperiences4969]

Wafters and pellet fed alternatively or together may be productive .on short hook length for wafter. That would be my take on it . ?? Appears to give you more choice also as you can switch baits .

[@philnotley5138]

Enlightening as usual 8 mm match the hatch best starting point every time

[@justluvfishinguk]

I love float fishing .. most of my fish come from the bottom .. but when I fire ground bait out & shorten my float so it’s 15 inch to my hook I catch loads of roach quickly ..

[@markwilson9255]

Great video. Anyone else notice the carp pop out at 27:36?

[@kevshouse2]

Very good incite. I love this style of fishing, lost a rod or 2 being ripped out me hands on the plop lol. I cant catch in open water but next to reeds, island etc fantastic. What breaking strain of line and Hooklink .....would u fish str8 through to hook?

[@ifishmatrix]

Jamie uses 6lb main line and a hooklength of similar breaking strain

[@GBJulesKing]

I know it's counter to logic & does using a floating line for the hook length make any difference, or maybe straight through with a floating main line even?

[@stuartsotheran6279]

Really agree with all the findings but .... why not a standard artificial pellet instead of a wafter? It has the right sort of bouyancy with the increased visibility.

[@DjTommy2008]

Hi. Great video. But , couldn't you pick a more sunny day for this video so you could make very visible footage? Although , i have a question regarding the twitching. if you put a quick change swivel couldn't we resolve the spinning problem?

[@ifishmatrix]

We can plan for everything except the weather, we book rob and Jamie in weeks in advance as they have a lot of commitments, Then we just have to go with it.

[@DjTommy2008]

@@ifishmatrix I understand. Didn't knew booking them could be so complicated . All in all , good work , i've now saw that i didn't fish correctly , and i definitely learned a lot from this video. Thumbs up!

[@sharoncarrino6074]

Iooks like a good bit of kit

[@josephsaulen1374]

Genius

[@robertwren8878]

A couple of slow turns of the reel are all that is needed after a few seconds of feeding again,sudden movement is unnatural when it's carp.Good video though.

[@richardbedford169]

What about the feeding pellets? Around the float... cast frist or after feeding..

[@ifishmatrix]

Feed then cast into the feed

[@richardbedford169]

What is the fall rate? For 8mm over 3ft please... As the time from feedong to picking up rods then castings must be 2 mins... if the feed is all ready pass the fall rate of 8mms then the hook bait will be sitting they alone?? Thoughts please???

[@ifishmatrix]

@@richardbedford169 We covered the sink rate of pellets fed via a catapult in a previous episode of Submerged. The best thing to do, is to bait your hook, have the rod ready to cast, feed, then cast straight away. Rather than feed, pick your rod up, bait it up etc. Here's the link to the last episode - kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3vLimOYmNd8jMU

[@richardbedford169]

@@ifishmatrix thanks for reply i will re watch it again...

[@tomaszszewczyk4895]

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[@ALAW-hc6fq]

Would it be possible to film a swim in a match situation to show how much feed builds up on the bottom.

[@ifishmatrix]

It would be possible to film, but wouldn't give an accurate view, as there would be no fish involved. We have to trade off lots of fish, for water clarity. The venues have to be like tap water, and unfortunately this doesn't mix with lots of fish eating bait! On a commercial fishery there would be lots of fish eating this bait throughout the day. We're just trying to help you catch more of them :)

[@scooterfishing9323]

Beautiful. Speaks to the imagination.

[@paulfranciosi5970]

Thought Rob was with another company now

[@Gareth04100]

Whats with the Leonardo hat? Surely that should be Matrix or Fox?

[@ifishmatrix]

Why? Rob is sponsored by neither company, he's just the best at what he does which is why we're so lucky to have him give his time to help film these series.The videos are not for promotion of products or the brand, we all just love to learn from them and hopefully help everyone see a different side to fishing.

[@RobHughesTV]

What’s with the hat? I was keeping warm as it was actually quite chilly having just got out. BTW Leonardo make military helicopters mate so it’s absolutely not commercial, just practical. Lol

[@steveellerby6986]

Would be nice Wouldn't it 👍

[@mikevoller-fishingfun9095]

interesting film but i would disagree that twitching doesn't work to catch carp.it may not behave in the way you think but the amount of times I've had a bite just after twitching it has to be more than coincidence.

[@ifishmatrix]

Jamie didn't say it didn't work, but on percentages a cast gives a better fall and more chance of a bite so to be as effective as possible you're better to recast than twitch.

[@mikevoller-fishingfun9095]

👍

[@baldrickscunningplan6154]

Fished Aston Eyre fishery last week. Lots of fish up in the water so I tried the pellet waggler, feeding 8mm and 6mm pellets. I only caught on Bait Tech criticals wafters. No bites whatsoever on 6mm or 8mm pellets. All bites came in the top 6 inches of water. Don't discount wafters, Jamie is wrong on this one.

[@steveames8286]

An 8 mil pellet with a hook will fall 10 ft in 15 seconds.

[@davidkennedy3714]

Wow a video on the speed of sinking pellets on a windy and rainy day ,,,, pointless to the max

[@haraldbrose5734]

Moin, kein Wort verstanden!!! Petri EdHarryPresident