IFR Lesson #9

[@mskcdrury]

This has been a really beneficial series Mike, and thanks Karin for having the courage to let us see how hard it is to cope with the single pilot IFR workload while learning. My wife watched this and commented that there's no way she's letting me teach her IFR because her marriage is more important ;)

[@karingoulian7097]

Funny - I've always watched Michael teach his students throughout the years. It was definitely different being on the other side. He's hard on me but only because he wants me to be safe and confident. Thanks for your note. Agreed that marriage comes first! - Karin

[@UncaDave]

Hi Mike, just got referred by a Cirrus friend to check out your videos. I am a retired CFII and commercial twin pilot for a coal company in WV flying a Cessna Golden Eagle 421B. Flew a bunch of Cirrus too, a wonderful plane for sure! When I heard your location of Plymouth, MA it set off lots of bells and lights for me. Many years ago I did my initial flight training at Cape Cod Air in Hyannis, MA. I don’t think they are around anymore. However I had a great time and soloed at Chatham CQX. My instructor had me often landing in Plymouth and used it for night training too. Great airport. My sister used to live there in the Pines and have many cousins in Marion and Mattapoisett. Family now in Barnstable and we are all lovers of Cape Cod. Grampy lived in Sandwich. However I am a mountain hillbilly now for sure and really learned some eastern mountain flying here in WV. Got a question for you. My special cuz Nancy Tamulis used to fly out of Plymouth and now a former pilot. Do you remember her? If so I will pass along a hello from you. Great lesson here with AOA too.

[@mikegoulian]

Hi Dave, What a great story. The Cape really is pretty awesome. Unfortunately we only moved to Plymouth about 8 years ago so we don’t know that many people who have been in the area a long time.

[@UncaDave]

@@mikegoulian Ok Mike, thanks for the response. Do you do any training going over to ACK. I used to use busy places with IFR student to reveal any focus difficulties, etc. I did my IFR training in the Tampa/St. Pete area in FL out of Albert Whitted, SPG. I actually liked it. Hey also your area used to have one of the few ILS back courses. I think it was at Providence PVD. That was a real different way to do an ILS. Is that still operating? I loved grass fields too. I had a Cessna 150 I restored in 2017 I think, with a Garmin 430 WAAS. Great little plane. I later sold it. It’s still flying up in JA Flight Services in Sugar Grove, IL. N10518. Used to love taking it into Katama for breakfast. Flew that bird up and down the east coast and a lot in FL. You have a bunch of wonderful airports to train in up there. Ok, will be watching your videos! Blue skies!

[@susanshroder1002]

it's so good to see your AOA instruction. Very important addition and well done. Thank you.

[@mikecournoyer]

I am at the COPA migration and one seminar pointed us to this video. This is awesome. Thank you mike. I cant wait to try this!

[@mikegoulian]

Mike, Glad you liked it. Honestly, it's been a while since I watched that video but looking at it again this morning I can see how the AOA discussion might be a good topic for Migration. I miss everyone down there. Say hello to everyone.

[@mikecournoyer]

@@mikegoulian it was my first migration. I have a 2021 SR22 NA. So I used to live and work in Plymouth! Now in savannah ga. I fly to mass for business a few times a year and would love to grab a few hours with you in my plane if that’s possible next time I’m up. Thanks again Mike!

[@karingoulian7097]

@@mikecournoyer Hi Mike! Absolutely. Just make sure to give us plenty of notice and we'll try to make it work. Would love to see you in Plymouth! - Karin

[@mikecournoyer]

@@karingoulian7097 fantastic!! I will definitely give you plenty of notice before coming up. Looking forward to it. Thanks you!

[@pslny]

I loved that Mike and Karin, the green donut stayed right there with the AOA at 3 o'clock. It would be cool to see a camera on the AOA and ASI on a gusty day.

[@mikegoulian]

I agree, once Karin is done with her IFR, I think we will have some fun doing some more of this kind of stuff.

[@jimallen8186]

AOA is great… what is also great? Fingers! Karin uses her fingers along the center console giving a reference point when moving the power lever / throttle. (5:20) Others may say pitch and power, I say AOA and power while fingers help with that power.

[@JSH1515]

Thanks for putting these up!

[@jacobcaldwell9048]

This has been a great, informative series. Thanks Mike, and especially Karin for putting this out there for us to learn from. Looking forward to more!

[@peterfiedler2813]

Really terrific series. I've been an instrument pilot for many years, but I've learned so much just watching Karin get lessons from Mike. Great job to both of you and thank you for sharing all of this great education.

[@karingoulian7097]

HI Peter - so nice of you to say!

[@markschussler567]

Mike, I just found this video, I have a 22T with the AOA and I tried today using it for the first time, and my landings now are sooooo much better. Thank you for this, keep up the great work. Mark

[@karingoulian7097]

Ya! That's awesome. So glad to hear it. - Karin

[@chuckcali1913]

"Taking a stabilized approach to the next level." Warning, I'm gonna use that... Well done Mike and Karin

[@mikegoulian]

Just don’t tell em where it came from if the landing doesn’t go well😜

[@rosannabada1474]

That's why I cover the ASI every time a student is unable to mantain the speed on final. They are forced to look outside (we don't have the AOA and we use the old metod "x fingers above, below the horizon) to mantain the correct attitude... and boom, the airspeed is always right and steady. Great video, thank you!

[@mikegoulian]

When we were teaching in conventional 6 pack airplanes we would always use a suction cup soap dish holder to cover the ASI. Works like a charm.

[@rosannabada1474]

@@mikegoulian It's priceless when you uncover the instrument in short final and they can see that the speed is exactly the Vref :) and the flare at that point is a merely a formality.

[@timdeckerairshows]

Teaching the flare to landing is always a challenge in my opinion. It seems more of an art than a science and you did an amazing job in this video. Keep up the great work Karin!

[@mikegoulian]

Tim, you’re so right. Karin is landing fine but I am trying to make her landings greasers every time. We all know it’s not possible but it’s fun trying.

[@classicraceruk1337]

Well explained Mike you are a great teacher. Well flown Karin the last landing looked great.

[@mikegoulian]

Thanks. It’s fun working on the finer points.

[@charlesabdouch3052]

Seems to me that you used to be a fighter jet jockey, and very familiar with the AOA. I LOVED seeing this approach to landing. Thank you for this video! One of the best landings I have seen Karin do and great energy management!

[@RobinDA40]

Great video. I have over a 1000 hours in the Cirrus SR22 and I learnt lots. Thanks. Need to get AOA for my G3. All the very best, safe flying. Robin from Australia.

[@mikegoulian]

Thanks Robin. Have fun down there. Love it there but have only been to Perth!

[@redwanbennaji424]

Good job Karin,, all the best!

[@ryanmoeller3308]

I'd just live to meet ya and fly with ya! I'm a Helicopter Mechanic and I got to go for my first hover the other day!! Such an awesome experience!! Keep your the GREAT work good sir! I can't wait to see more video's from ya!! Much respect and support from this A&P Mechanic! 👍👍

[@mikegoulian]

Thank a bunch. My brother is a commercial helicopter pilot. I’ve flown with him a bunch. I’m terrible 😩 That hovering thing is impossible!!!

[@ryanmoeller3308]

@@mikegoulian What does he fly? I work for an agency that keeps illegals and bad people out of the country.. I work on the AS350B3 and the EC120.

[@mikegoulian]

He was just an R22 / R44 guy. Nothing fancy.

[@gregmitchell6213]

Mike, these videos have convinced me to resume my flight training with you personally to get to 100 hours. The premium is well worth it. I’m considering an SR22, and your linear approach to training and how it directly correlates to the Cirrus will suit me well. I’m in southern New Hampshire and my office is up 95 in Wakefield. I’ll be reaching out to your program shortly.

[@mikegoulian]

HI Greg, That's excellent. We look forward to seeing you!!!

[@mocha1918]

Great video, Mike. Thanks

[@seriouslycirrus7341]

Nice work Karin!

[@ClintEatWood]

I love to land with the AoA indicator, “don’t care about the numbers”. Always the right speed, no matter the weight! Also used to land on aircraft carriers, It is a petty that in your plane the indicator is out of site a bit. Please keep on going!

[@mikegoulian]

I agree. Having it more in the pilots view would be great.

[@marlonfdutra]

Brilliant Mike. When I bought my new SR20 G6, a week later I installed an AOA indicator in it. I love having it! I'd love if you could nag Cirrus to decouple this from FIKI. Every airplane should have an AOA vane these days. No exceptions.

[@mikegoulian]

That would be good wouldn’t it. I’ll nag them!!!

[@speedomars]

The AoA meter is best used on turns, like base to final (impossible to get near stall if you use it). The meter is pretty sensitive so using it on a landing down to pavement would be tougher. The Cirrus models (SR20, SR22, SR22T) have distinct Vs0 numbers and they should be used religiously. In the SR22T that number is 79kts over the numbers in calm winds. Add to that the gust factor calc and you can't miss in regard to energy. Your SR22 is super. I fly a G5 SR22T. Have had it for five years. You are gonna love your plane.

[@mikegoulianaviation6030]

Thanks so much. Every little tidbit helps!

[@markwaddell8406]

Thank you for producing this episode. The Garmin FIKI AOAI is not commonly taught, nor well-understood, by a lot of pilots flying the FIKI SR22/22T. I'd be interested in any other uses you've found for it in training. Well done!

[@mikegoulian]

Mark, I think people are just now starting to get comfortable with it and starting to incorporate it into their scan. Haven’t used it for much else yet but it will be a good tool for slow flight training etc.

[@artistwithcameras]

Mark I would love to see Mike make some videos similar to what I have done (see my AoA playlist ) with his own unique touch. Mike is a master, a world class aviator and I encourage everyone to watch and learn. This topic is so important it is the fundamental of all flying.

[@mrmoser]

Again! Great stuff!!

[@adrianomarques1576]

Hey Mike love your videos. When are you going to post more IFR FLIGHT LESSONS? Hope all is well enjoy the content of the videos.

[@mikegoulian]

Thanks so much. We will hopefully post a Karin’s last IFR video next week. Then I think we might teach her some unusual attitude flying and aerobatics.

[@ericm333]

I was smiling by the end of the last landing. Excellent the way you teach. But I have a feeling your wife feels like the plane is going to drop if she slows too much. Flying habits to relearn. Thanks for sharing

[@mikegoulian]

Yes, she totally feels like the plane is slow. I think she will be comfortable with a slightly different sight picture quickly though.

[@cuetheplanesound8110]

AOA all the way. Thanks Mike.

[@joecarpenter4522]

No. Pitch, power, trim, lock it in. In position, on speed, and stable. AoA indicator is not required and is an unnecessary distraction.

[@artistwithcameras]

Mike I’ve been teaching AoA in the SR22 exclusively for years. And here is the secret hack - 14% power over the fence. Don’t reduce to idle until wheels touch. Nails 1.3 Vso blue donut. Try that with her.

[@mikegoulian]

I will try that. Thanks a bunch!!!

[@karingoulian7097]

Thanks for the tip!

[@PilotDaveAviation]

This was amazing... new to the channel and I watched all of the training videos with your wife, love this ! Is there a video with her passing her instrument ? I just started studying for my instrument written... again, thank you for sharing these videos

[@mikegoulian]

Hopefully that will be coming shortly. Life got in the way but she hopes to get it done very soon after a bit of brush up.

[@PilotDaveAviation]

@@mikegoulian understandable sir, thanks for the response !

[@jakehowe8676]

Hey great videos. So for GA aircraft do you always pitch for airspeed if there is no Aoa indicator? I find when I power for rate of descent the nose can fluctuate a lot when I'm trimmed for speed

[@20windman]

Have you ever considered adding the FPA (Flight Path Angle)? Draws a three degree descent line.

[@joecarpenter4522]

What is the pitch, power, trim combo to have that airplane in position, on speed, and stable during all legs of the traffic pattern? That’s what she needs to know and apply. Guide the airplane into ground effect and as she starts looking further and further down the runway, squeeze the stick to increase the AoA while easing the power to idle...touchdown. Having the airplane stabilized at all times will also afford her/all of us more time to be eye balls outside to see and avoid vice staring at a panel. Karen’s errors are fundamental in nature and therefore can/should be corrected via the basics of flight instruction.

[@karingoulian7097]

Thanks Joe. I definitely need to work on my consistency.

[@bobspencildrawings6928]

Question, did Karen ever get her IFR rating? I’m new to your channel and love it.

[@johnw.burroughsjr.3497]

how lucky is Karin