While PlayStation Goes Pro, Xbox Goes Portable - Next-Gen Console Watch

Welcome back to Next-Gen Console Watch. This week Daemon is joined by the usual crew of Ryan McCaffrey from Podcast Unlocked, and Max Scoville from Beyond, IGN's PlayStation podcast. The topic: if the rumors are true, Sony and Microsoft have very different strategies for how to handle the mid-gen phase of the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. One is likely to do a 'pro' upgrade, and the other is looking into the handheld market. How did the two sides get to where they are, and will those strategies work?

[@travismester]

As a PS5 owner, where are the next gen games? Where are the PS VR2 games? We don’t need a new system, we need more content.

[@ProfoundProductions]

Facts!

[@wrathgor]

Only true next gen PS5 game is Demons Souls Remake lol. Sony is a joke this generation.

[@stevencuellarart9495]

Yes Demon Souls remake still looks next gen. What’s going on with the new games?

[@wrathgor]

@@stevencuellarart9495 All first party games are also available on PS4 or PC, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade is not really a quality PS exclusive.

[@karlkoskie2891]

Ps vr2 is dead

[@gidds617]

Game pass on a handheld would be absolutely incredible.

[@MizzahTee]

As A Legion Go and Steam Deck owner I'm here to tell you it IS!

[@schlechtj1]

@@MizzahTee aokzoe here... got it.

[@micha3lall3n10]

Yea rog ally comes with 3 months free game pass

[@jakeangichiodo1975]

Get a backbone for $70-$100 and a decent phone and you can play every single Xbox cloud game.

[@MMXX444]

Need a handheld with all Og Xbox, 360 and Xbox One games on a handheld and make it subscription only and have it able to stream new games at 4K 60fps

[@jasonwilson30]

Would love an Xbox handheld that could play current gen games!

[@504Trey]

I'm a Playstation gamer who is about to switch to Xbox after I'm done beating Stellar Blade because Playstation just been lacking this gen.. definitely gonna get that Xbox handheld when it drop..

[@uchennaokafor9744]

@@504Treysame issue with Xbox

[@erey214]

​@@uchennaokafor9744for both to be honest... pc all the way for me. Play on Xbox with my friends only

[@Fate862]

@@504Trey Xbox definately is lacking the absolute most of all the platforms to play on. The exclusives are being shared to other platforms so whatever they do have you can play it on PC or something. To make things worse the xbox exclusvies have all been complete garbage. Starfield, Redfall and Halo were suppose to be the biggest games of all time for them and look how those turned out. Then the new fable game has memes made of it for people to laugh at. Xbox has been the laughing stock of this gen. Then you want a handheld to play nothing that not already on PC. Dude just get a steam deck. You can play everything xbox has and more. Or just get yourself a gaming PC and play on steam and get emulators for nintendo games. The best setup for gaming you want is of course a PC and a PS5 and/or nintendo switch depending what you enjoy. But to drop Playstation for an xbox handheld...that makes no sense.

[@ashtondillard6906]

@@erey214Pc with a back up console is the go to.

[@wutcalypse585]

Ryan as always positive about xbox. Max as always negative about ps

[@mikaelpage88]

Seriously lol. At this point get a new ps person lol

[@DM2442MD]

Absolutely 👍

[@stevenh.2459]

Max isn’t a fanboy, which honestly is a breath of fresh air on the podcast

[@YogiTheBearMan]

Everyone likes an underdog.

[@itsdeonlol]

The real question is why do we need a PS5 Pro? Will it make games run at 60FPS instead of 30FPS...

[@Silvachenko]

There aren't even enough exclusive games for this generation, bro 😭

[@Deloreon]

Why do we need any upgrades?

[@leeroy1986]

Maybe it will.

[@dlw2982]

Real question....why would anyone by an xbox?

[@Ijustpullingeneral]

The ps5 pro SHOULD run 120+ fps as a basic standard… these devs are holding back on us

[@matthewcase6112]

Seems to me there has been more hardware and systems released in past 10 years than there has been games.

[@samuellafontaine4857]

When there is a lack of next gen games that can embrace and show off the consoles “futuristic features” “, makes the desire of getting the “pro” version of the consoles zero

[@erey214]

Finally, someone who makes sense

[@ScottsGuitar]

Ps5 has made literally one next gen game that’s it. One, and that came out basically at launch with ratchet and clank. 4 years later they still haven’t matched the tech in that game lol the whole marketing around these consoles was a scam back then, and it’s just as much a scam now.

[@kylespevak6781]

The "futuristic features" are taking away a disc drive and a slightly better GPU 😂

[@bittyboogaming1653]

We don't need a series x pro. We don't need a pS5 pro either. We need developers to start using the features and power that's available now. If they would then we wouldn't need a pS5 pro or series x pro

[@gkey06]

a sensible comment from an xbox guy.

[@fo0za954]

pro models are kinda pointless when you have no games that take advantage of its hardware. If you really wanna get a new console for those 4 games that run better on it, be my guest

[@mrdimple1997]

Wait till they put a “Ps5 Pro Only” stickers on their game covers.

[@shayshalevv]

as long as its rumored an option for increase of graphics for the upcoming gta, people will buy it...

[@conchitacaparroz]

Some games are clearly pushing the limits of this current gen... Cannot run at 60fps, Ray tracing is very limited, lower quality texture shadows, in comparison to average modern PCs...

[@findvolume]

You don't know what the word uselss means. It's like saying building a more powerful PC is useless. Sony's big first party games always start dropping more consecutively the last 3-4 years of the system. That period literally starts in 2025. Yall can say its useless now and then when it comes out and stays sold out yall will be crying about scalpers lol.

[@Toddfrommario]

The only people who will buy a pro are normies who only play COD, 2k, fifa, or madden The same people who put supreme stickers of their console 😂

[@piku5637]

Normalize game dev cooperatives and labour unions. Game devs make the games run, game devs should run the gaming world.🌎🌍🌏

[@thesleepingbag8650]

Based take. Thank you.

[@lukii6770]

Great Move from Xbox .

[@keynanmartinez]

Hybrid consoles are now the future.

[@mrdimple1997]

Does that make Nintendo time traveler?

[@stanlexgreenson]

after reading this comment my brain just went: “Did you mean portable PCs?” 😂

[@QuantumChrist]

@@mrdimple1997 , makes them piaoneer.

[@NickJoeBeg]

Yes for traveling back in time to gaming before christ, no for the future or even 2007. Jc fk Nintendo

[@erey214]

​@@mrdimple1997it makes them the innovators.... but that's nothing new

[@jasonsmith530]

Something even better than the steam deck sounds great

[@echad6259]

Absolutely

[@danielgomez7236]

However a portable Xbox could also be a stream only device

[@Hideotronic]

At GameStop it’s so apparent that new Hardware from Sony or Microsoft doesn’t feel necessary unless more new games start coming out for them. The PlayStation Portal is a cool device, but is essentially the WiiU gamepad for your ps5, and Xbox seems apathetic as to whether their hardware sells, just so long as they can get people to join GamePass.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

Portal is not for everybody

[@nategreatgames78]

they are playing the long game with Gamepass, which will inevitably become one of the primary ways the majority of modern gamers will want to get access to and play games. It's already happend with music, and then movies, it's going to happen with games eventually.

[@Game4Lord]

@@EnaTenkiyoGamerThe Portal is an overpriced paperweight is what it is.

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@@Game4Lord someone is butthurt to a sony piece of plastic like a Nintendo switch fanboy 🤣

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@Game4Lord Go cry about it on the Playstation portal subreddit and it's selling well, cry about it neckbeard American hahaha

[@jimmycarpenter6612]

A pro just makes no sense at the time. Sony has released about 5 decent games since the ps5 launched.

[@DwyerStudio]

What we need is consoles with faster CPU’s and ram that can render larger more in depth worlds more NPC depth etc

[@florisbackx1744]

What we need is developers making better use of the 'nextgen' consoles under our TV's.

[@danielgomez7236]

A big change of CPU may cause unpredictable effects on backward compatibility, that's why they'd rather only upgrade the GPU.

[@harktz983]

Microsoft and Gamepass are going the indie route so a handheld does make a lot of sense for them, while Sony - for now - is still big on cinematic experiences that can benefit from a more powerful console

[@gabewhite6943]

Too bad performance is near identical. Maybe Sony could take a hint and shift their focus. We REALLY don’t need a midgen update console from either Xbox or PlayStation.

[@mericanignoranc3551]

Sony shifted focus to GAAS.....subjective!

[@sethross7217]

@@mericanignoranc3551not entirely true. They’re going back to focusing on the big AAA games that they’re known to make. Maybe a few GAAS here and there.

[@brucewayne2955]

Can someone sue Sony for falsely advertising that PS5 can play 8k games? Thank you.

[@PumpedSmartass]

Technically there are a few. 🫠 not a dozen, but a few 😂 not sure if only internally rendered or not

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

There is an indie game with 8k resolution They got themselves covered there. Lol

[@Hdio99]

typical american mindset, sueying, can u not have anything better to do, make u a console apply your time more to do then to take money from others...

[@Oryon7]

The Touryst, by programming wizard Shin'en, has an 8k mode on PS5. But in true Shin'en fashion, it wouldn't be impressive without an exclamation point. So, we're talking about NATIVE 8K AT 60 FPS❗ Interestingly, they weren't able to run it at 8K on XBSX, due to filtrate constraints. Filtrate happens to be one of PS5's advantages over XBSX, which still manages an impressive 6K internal render. It's still kinda scummy marketing, but it's technically valid.

[@solidsnake6731]

​@@Oryon7 we all know at this point that Sony pays Studios to make games looking worse on Xbox on purpose.

[@primemegatron22]

The REGULAR Playstation 5 was expected to already be a "Pro" gaming hardware. Likewise, the Xbox Series X. I remember the Aw and amaze of seeing the very first Hellblade 2 teaser. We remember the Aw and amaze when Sony bragged about being able to load a city landscape in under 2 seconds!

[@YukarioMashimato]

Both of these guys are the same people that said Vita was a failure, even though none of the PC handhelds have outsold it.

[@stampiboy1]

There is no point in pro version neither of ps or xb in this gen . CPU even bit stronger but still the same . bottle neck is there no matter what you put in it . just wait couple more years and release next console gen

[@richshrimp7680]

Name 5 games that are cpu bottlenecked on the ps5

[@TheBean87]

@@richshrimp7680dragons dogma 2, Gotham knights, plagues tale requiem, robocop and immortals of aveum.

[@captainrogers2542]

Gta 6 is the purpose.

[@Sudokari]

2028 was the microsoft next gen, but everything they planned has delayed, so goodluck, maybe 2032, or not at all.

[@TheBean87]

@@Sudokari 2026/2027 will be Xbox’s next gen. 2028 will be PlayStations.

[@KROMERES]

“We need another payment for your installment plan.” -Sony

[@willissudweeks1050]

Actually pretty cool they offer installment plans. Don’t see how it’s obnoxious for them to ask for payment.

[@danielgomez7236]

Did you know there are new phones and new cars models every year?

[@HomeOfth3ErA]

At this point , consoles SHOULD be able to compete with mid tier PCs bro

[@alex_gaming9585]

PS5 is definitely competing with high end PC's that's for sure

[@leeroy1986]

At the start of the gen, yeah, not mid-gen.

[@Medzo2]

​@alex_gaming9585 what? 😂😂😂😂

[@LEGIT_ELITE]

​@@alex_gaming9585in 2024 the consoles are mid tier Gaming PC's now.

[@Yinzermakesvids]

Xbox and ps5 are high end capabilities, dont say they aren't because they are

[@novachrono2236]

PS5 pro is for the guys who waited for it.

[@petehboy2]

The sound quality's amazing

[@abdel1143]

Ryan is back, time to watch this show again.

[@Leo-pd4fc]

Love Ryan Reynolds! ❤

[@abdel1143]

@@Leo-pd4fc Ryan Gosling the GOAT

[@Leo-pd4fc]

@@abdel1143 yes Ryan is the GOAT!

Why does Ryans facial hair and eye animation remind me of Slappy from Goosebumps.

[@WGPower_Nonchalant_Cafe]

Sony and Microsoft undercut their own hardware by making developers have game releases compatible with the interior systems

[@MichaelStanton]

I'm excited for the PS5 Pro

[@MrMarlby]

Sony will be thrilled somebody is 🥴

[@captainrogers2542]

I’m more excited for the handheld.

[@0niXin0]

​​@@MrMarlbymost the people that arent these console war weirdos

[@pawhunter340]

Waste of money will still be inferior to my pc

[@kenroyforrester156]

Why?

[@noelsilva8887]

And when Xbox announced their portable console I’m all in. Especially if the gamepass version on it is their console version not pc one. 😅😂

[@Ijustpullingeneral]

FR & if the backwards compatibility is included with it it’s going to do numbers FOSHO

[@nevusaur]

Another point that needs bringing up - will a portable console of either mean the handheld will get any exclusives? Assuming it’s lower powered than the main series consoles

[@prazzy5356]

We want 4K 120fps !!!

[@Chaoticwizard54]

The pro will be able to handle most games at that

[@raulpires1969]

@@Chaoticwizard54 yeah sure, the base model can barely do 4k at 60 fps

[@crow9283]

For what?

[@inamorta47-playertwist]

​@@Chaoticwizard54how??? Like they would. Devs arent that hardworking like yall thought 😂😂

[@Filthyfrank8142]

@@Chaoticwizard54it depends if they make the graphics better on performance mode, if they do then it’s not going to be native 4K 120fps

[@diabe_tech]

Would love some chapters on your videos! pleaseee

[@marklarz4399]

Playstation would have an easy win with PS Vita 2, that plays your PS4 collection (and PS3 to murder the competition)

[@polarislord]

No one can afford rent or internet so a handheld makes sense lol

[@KPid10t]

Right because if you can’t afford rent or internet - you should be worried about buying a game console 😂😂

[@swellerace]

Your still gonna have to download games physical is essentially nearly over what's a handheld gonna do there's no game on that disc or cartridge whatever it is!

[@Sudokari]

True, like people who complain they don't make enough but have a new car and iPhone.

[@christbenitez8797]

The handheld will be probably focus on digital games instead of physical. A handheld gaming device having a cartridge or disc drive is time consuming and expensive to manufacture. Digital is the way for Microsoft handheld console.

[@swellerace]

@@christbenitez8797 everything is going digital!

[@debashisraykarmakar836]

Handhelds are way to go

[@CARLGULA]

The PS5 pro is redundant at this point. Even devs who've spent time with the PS5 pro dev kit have stated who is this for? They specifically said, "the PS5 pro makes no sense, we still haven't been able to fully utilize the power of the base PS5." The pro console won't be able to make games run at 60fps any better than the base console because it's using the same CPU with a slight clock boost. The GPU is where they're going to put all the upgraded power as they're going for "the best ray tracing performance" but in actuality we won't be able to see much a difference between each console. I'm EXTREMELY disappointed in Sony for taking this route, they would've been way better off making a modern PlayStation Portable that uses the AMD Z1 extreme (or a custom version) so we can take our PS5 games on the go with no limitations. In fact from devs I've spoken to they could get most PlayStation 5 games to run so long as the portable console uses a comparable SSD & devs patch the games which would be a much better sell than a $599 PS5 pro that barely dies better than the base model. I'll enjoy my PS5 and will NOT purchase the pro model as it's just a shameful cash grab imo.

[@-C69-]

Console generations need to be much longer, to coincide with longer development cycles. 10-15 years could allow devs to get familiar with the hardware.

[@WesMordine]

Absolutely.

[@johnpreston230]

How about 100 years

[@Filthyfrank8142]

POV you know nothing about technology, even if it will last 10-15 years, people would start crying about frames and graphics.

[@TheLastBrandon]

@@johnpreston230Yeah! Now you’re getting it 😎 Seriously though. The PS5 & Xbox Series X|S generation should last a minimum of 10 years, if not longer.

[@ashokathegreat4534]

8-9 years

[@louzer4609]

Literally no point in a ps5 power upgrade. As for a portable xbox, an ROG Ally or lenovo legion go should do the trick. Nintendo is the only one that needs a power bump and I'm still buying games for my switch even with the hindered graphics.

[@lew0071]

A handheld from Microsoft which has built in support for Gamepass is an extremely smart move

[@MohawkV85]

​@@lew0071right? I'll buy it in a heartbeat. Pony should keep quiet, they buy ps portal, when it can only stream.

[@captainrogers2542]

Ps5 pro does have a purpose. The purpose is gta 6. Ps5 pro is the only way to play gta 6 with the highest graphics or frames setting considering the gta 6 will not release on pc for a few years.

[@hooky17]

I’ve said it multiple times but Microsoft doesn’t need to make a portable handheld. They need to make an OS built around Xbox that will run on them. ROG Ally, Legion Go, MSI claw, the hardware doesn’t let them down. Windows lets them down

[@Psychotoxic86]

Only brainless person can say this...PS5 was weak console on release. Look it now, all console gaming is big compromise between 4K - RTX - 60 FPS. You can't get all in one package.

[@mkVision424]

Finally Ryan is back!!

[@HrabiaKaczula]

X-BOY - that is a great name!!!

[@ashokathegreat4534]

Boy is Nintendo

[@Craigo1987-yorkshire]

Hope they make a Xbox handheld that would be amazing and if you could connect your phones internet to it would be brilliant

[@dotty1774]

Didnt get a ps4 pro but hopping on the ps5 pro wagon, looking for higher resolutions for 60 performance modes.

[@MrBeefTot187]

10 percent cpu upgrade isn’t going to get you 60😂

[@longtutjenkins]

@@MrBeefTot187 It has a 45% GPU upgrade and an AI upscaler like a DLSS that is already better than FSR. the 60 FPS modes he is talking about are already present in plenty of games but at a huge sacrifice to image quality and that is what the GPU bump and PSSR is for. It will 100% make the games run at a much better resolution at those 60 FPS mode games. There are probably 5 games out of the thousands who are not 60 FPS, this idea that the CPU cannot push 60 fps in modern games is not true because we already got modern games and they ran at 60.

[@dotty1774]

​@@MrBeefTot187 99.99% of ps5 games already run at 60?

[@TheBean87]

@@longtutjenkinshow do you know it’s already better than fsr?

[@zyblurish206]

@@longtutjenkins you say that it's better than FSR but the only thing you mean is specifically the FSR version for consoles which is FSR 2 and not really the newest FSR version which is FSR 3 and soon 3.1 which will significantly improve and will apparently also soon go the AI upscaling route that they are working on and on top of that FSR 3 has Frame Generation capabilities which PSSR apparently not has which could have made 120fps possible if FSR 3 was available for consoles.

[@SquareEyesOfficial]

Dude on the right, pls check your gain! You have a great mic there...

[@StaredownGames]

I'd love a handheld Xbox but I'm blind. Silvia at work said it best. "If it's not 9 inches, I'm not interested."

[@kingshadow8782]

Interesting.

[@notoriousTHEbest]

An Xbox handheld with Xbox OS that could play pc ports of games with ability to plug into an egpu would be holy grail. That or just improve the windows handheld experience so Rog ally like devices are enjoyable.

[@djtomoy]

We had an Xbox portable before, it was called windows phone 7, you could get real deal achievement points in the games 😮😮

[@KevinSheppard]

We're also not considering the fact that we're reached the limits of scale and fidelity that a typical dev studio can reach in a reasonable dev cycle. At this point I'm happy with a handheld Xbox (or any affordable hardware) that could run Uncharted 4 at decent settings at a smooth 30, 40 or 60fps.

[@BFD64]

Sony is slowly falling to Nothing tbh

[@PhenomenalOne1000]

How long we gunna call ps5n series x next gen ? Its been 4 years

[@dvdgnz1]

1 year of proper current gen games though, lol

[@mexskatechoko]

Jajajaja true true

[@PhenomenalOne1000]

@@dvdgnz1 that’s developers fault

[@omgness14]

Regret buying the Series X and Microsoft has been a let down, going PC next Gen.

[@EhCloserLook]

You should be happy with this news - to me, it seems this might mean there is gas in the tank left yet for the Series X.

[@johnpreston230]

Go pc now, it's awesome. Steam is just unbeatable

[@kaneshirosan1642]

We need a Playstation Portable OLED!

[@akbarsatriafitriawan9795]

PS5 Pro, the strongest console ever created.... fit perfectly for remake and remaster video game..... 😜

[@caramellamccrea8344]

People complaining about “dO wE nEeD a PrO?” When sony do the exact same thing back in 2016 ( ps4 pro ) and nobody complain about that before😂👏 people this day always complaining

[@ThepurposeofTime]

KOTR is gonna be random knight, then ending summon attack with all of them

[@M8YM8]

Fark Max Scoville is the coolest name ever lol

[@boosieharris5400]

Will the new ps5 fix the Liquid Metal overheating problem

[@roadrunnermjp]

Isn’t there rumours of them (Sony)patenting a handheld device? When was this video filmed?

[@bonkgameing]

They already released it

[@HolyHadou]

Sony's gunshy from the Vita just not hitting the sweet spot but how they handled storage and platform openness due to what happened with the PSP's piracy was an over correction that didn't help with adaption. Also the price of making Vita games started to break into console tier w/o the player base to support it. Xbox just needs a win and sees what the Switch and Steam Deck are doing and wants in on that action before Sony realizes what an easy win they'd have on their hands. My confusion is while the Pro move feels really niche and excessive in this generation there are quite a few games that feel inadequately optimized and need a pro variant to cover for their subpar launch states. Star Wars Jedi Survivor & Dragon's Dogma 2 are two that come to mind. However, even on PC both games have issues so I'm not sure a Pro Variant would cover over the limitations and lack of polish the games showed at launch.

[@ICon-sy7go]

They didn’t mention the portal 😂

[@2crude2crudeofficialband3]

We need a Switch 2 and a PSP 3!

[@Game4Lord]

Ayn Odin plays both of those platform's titles.

[@billyam4565]

An xbox handheld would be an easier buy than a PS5 Pro by faaar! So excited for it !

[@graysenluckensmeyer3329]

An Xbox handheld that doesn’t run solely on cloud gaming would be a game changer.

[@dondandaradondandara9228]

There is really no need for a PS5 pro currently... perhaps if the PSVR2 picked up as expected, it would have been a great upgrade, but the quest 3 just took over mostly

[@mickael486]

@11:13 Shout out to Boogie Nights! Great example, Max. 👍

[@alexpeets7118]

Will pass on a PS5 pro dont see the leap in visuals to warrant a new purchase.

[@extra4542]

WE NEED NEXT GEN GAMES FIRST. one of the only next gen games I’ve seen is hellblade 2 in terms of graphical fidelity with UE5

[@wrathgor]

No point to buy when it doesn't have games you know. No need a pro for PS3 game Rise of the Ronin or PS4 game Stellar Blade

[@YogiTheBearMan]

Maybe we would get more next gen games if the hard drives were big enough to install a few

[@Lakitu_89]

More new IPs, no unnecessary hardware and improvements on Remote Play please... 💙

[@rasheedbedri]

Absolutely brilliant

[@daneger3210]

Portable Xbox pre order day 1

[@ashtondillard6906]

Fr

[@GreatImmortal91]

The series X is Xbox mid gen refresh. They said this years ago lol

[@jasonseals9198]

Hellblade 2 is truly a next generation game

[@morganshibby8941]

Nintendo goes home

[@tunperak1256]

Playstation need an iconic character for their system like mario for nintendo. Maybe Nintendo survived so long because of characters like mario and zelda. Nostalgia for older gamers but still fun games for younger gamers. Old iconic characters in a new game. Oh, and hydbrid handheld console is nice too.

[@ContrastCopy]

Yeah, PlayStation doesn’t really have a strong legacy brand figure. Even Xbox has Halo, even if it had been handled somewhat poorly with many aspects of infinite, it has a strong halo vibe.

[@ashokathegreat4534]

Mario is such a strong character it could rival Nintendo

[@NickJoeBeg]

They do have several they just need to revive them idk why they let em die

[@Mega_DP]

They used to have a few, like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro and Twisted Metal. Those were the glory days of gaming.

[@danielgomez7236]

Universal Studios tried to sell Crash Bandicoot to Sony as a PlayStation mascot, however Sony PS declined the offer because they rather promote creativity with new characters

[@kingshadow8782]

Hell Yeah!

[@elmergloo3259]

If Microsoft made Windows work more seamlessly on a handheld device I’d be interested. If they are making a custom Xbox OS for a handheld that is only a gaming device, then I’ll keep my Steam Deck.

[@victorjanssen8720]

Xbox has two KZbin post of games coming to a Xbox Series One. I'm thinking a Hybrid console of a handheld and Xbox One. I've been writing about the One would have been huge if it was made like a 360 offering offline support and to integrate universal phone support to the One. That wireless System Links, wrote early into the Series life cycle could they boost wireless System Links to get a Block party console that would be huge for city buyers like Japan.

[@MrVrob8]

NCAA Football on handheld.

[@matthewjohnson1891]

Maybe they can just release a firmware update for thier right analog stick jitter first?

[@v.e.s2884]

Can’t wait for the pro

[@BoJangles42]

An Xbox handheld that can play current gen Xbox games w/ Game Pass would make me buy an Xbox branded device for the first time ever.

[@MrMightyZ]

The ok GPU upgrade and disappointingly tiny CPU upgrade of the PS5 Pro makes it the PS5 Pro console you can get away with when your competition declares that it isn’t making a mid-gen upgrade console at all.

[@zqpleo]

one thing that disappoints me the most is switch 2 with LCD screen instead of oled

[@godssalvation87]

Only thing that's confusing is that Xbox barely support the console how can anyone think there portable will even succeed with nothing behind it?

[@arnoldp3740]

This is is soo true. At least with PS we have tons of VR games, exclusives etc

[@seanmathis1755]

Easy! Game Pass!

[@simonmaduxx6777]

Barely supports the console? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 What next are you going to say Xbox has no games? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You won't have Sony support for this whole entire year. What are you talking about?

[@ContrastCopy]

⁠@@arnoldp3740ok tons is a bit of a stretch. The PSVR 2 has way too few games for a 500 dollar buy in. Even with great graphics, a meta quest 3 with a better software library, portability, pancake lenses, and no cords is a better purchase.

[@dareal8482]

Ps vr 2 sony have that's on ice so no support there. Sony disconnued both psp and vita. The ONLY thing thats successful is the playstation itself.

[@pablomparra]

Next gen will become portable like switch or steam deck and with the power of a ps5.

[@christianyoutubegaming]

PS5 Performance is not the problem, the real problem is not being able to personalize your theme experience on a PS5 like you can on a PS4. you can't send photos as a post to show all friends to give a quick like, there is no broadcast community to traffic viewers on the PS5. How about how the PS5 can't switch audio from a controller to a headset when connected to a PC like the PS4 can

[@chacg476]

Guy to the right looks like skinny Peter Pettigrew 😂

[@1xICExVIPERx1]

Playstation just came out with the slim in December and now there pushing a PS5 pro. It does say 8k and now with a PS5 and there now with the PS5 pro saying it can do 8k again and if people buy this there getting swindled. People will buy this though. Kinda sad

[@WardedPredator]

People pretending image quality isn't becoming an issue on X & PS5, PS5 pro with roughly 47% performance uplift on the GPU & PSSR should help significantly.

[@rees3lo]

Hybrids are the future devs need to focus on performance or use docking stations for performance and limited on handheld

[@Imhotep397]

Microsoft was forced to support Office on the Mac or face government restructuring of the company into many companies.

[@Imhotep397]

Ray tracing really is to help developers reduce the texture loading overhead of their games, so it’s really not a “sexy” feature at this point in time.

[@DubsBrown]

Gotta remember lots of people just bought a PS5 slim because they couldn’t find the OG model in stock for years. If Sony goes PS5 Pro you’re going to train us to avoid the first model of PS6 and just wait to get 6 slim or pro.

[@bigcrashg]

nintendo switch 2 is going to be the most ground breaking. they seem to figure out exactly what fans want out of a game system.

[@gameindustryinsider6450]

If only IGN had some pundits with tech understanding. There is nothing to indicate a Pro machine will be more expensive than the base model. Most components are the same. Also the console will not replace the base system - which will continue to be pushed.

[@thevideogamecabinet3681]

When the hell are we getting that Half Life Alyx port on PSVR2?

[@driftwood9705]

A Tale of Two Cities. 1. PlayStation - Pro Console 2. Xbox - Mobile Unit