IIT prof discusses: What are the differences between College education and Coaching?

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@satish918
@satish918 3 ай бұрын
@ Prof.JC, While appreciating the topic and presentation, it may please be emphasised at the beginning of the video that the use of the term "College" herein refers to the 'premier institutes' in India (especially to IITs and their flagship BTech / BS program) "College" in India commonly and literally refers to affiliated colleges of state universities... Such colleges are basically coaching centers for their respective university examinations... The preoccupation of such affiliated colleges is solely on completing the "portions" (syllabus!) for their university examinations.. And like coaching classes the "performance" of affiliated colleges and of their faculty members is based on the proportion of students who clear their university examination.. The "best colleges" are those which get the maximum number of "ranks" in their university conducted examinations!! Notably, such Colleges are filled with faculty members who are time-servers, degree holders from the same kind of colleges, completely disconnected from academia. So please make a part-2 of this video on coaching centers 🆚 affiliated colleges after visiting and spending some time in them, at least some days in a couple of nearby colleges affiliated to state universities... Please ask students who have attended coaching classes and missed getting admission to premier institutes; most of them will expectedly say that the faculty in the coaching centers which they had attended were far better than faculty in their present college! In the meantime, the video could perhaps be renamed like "Teaching/ Learning in JEE Coaching Centers versus after joining IITs" ... It may also be good to add a disclaimer that certain coaching centers (e.g. AhaGuru, run by a distinguished alumnus from IIT Madras, and M.Prakash Institute) are adherents to the teaching/ learning practices of premier institutes, minus the supporting infrastructure and academic ecosystem.
@tlgphup6928
@tlgphup6928 3 ай бұрын
Well said 🙏
@sankhajitdas3220
@sankhajitdas3220 3 ай бұрын
Watching this from the room of lbs hall.. Truly a different feeling ❤❤❤
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp 3 ай бұрын
Kon dept?
@sankhajitdas3220
@sankhajitdas3220 3 ай бұрын
@@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp mining.... Tomar?
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics 3 ай бұрын
Wow congratulations 🫡
@sankhajitdas3220
@sankhajitdas3220 3 ай бұрын
@@RamizZamanJEEPhysics sir apni..? The legend itself commented on my post Thank you sir 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗿🗿🗿
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics 3 ай бұрын
@@sankhajitdas3220Yes❤ welcome to Kgp
@AayushKumarLal-cz8bs
@AayushKumarLal-cz8bs 3 ай бұрын
Had the first day of class today at IITKGP😁 mining dept... by the way sir I was even looking for you while passing nearby the mechanical department
@sankhajitdas3220
@sankhajitdas3220 3 ай бұрын
Aree hum bhi iit kgp mining ka
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 3 ай бұрын
​@@sankhajitdas3220 job milegi? Suna hai bekar scope hai isme.
@sankhajitdas3220
@sankhajitdas3220 3 ай бұрын
@@FreakGUY-007 aree bhai kyu nhi... Apne skills pe focus Karo na aaram se hoga
@hariomm.70
@hariomm.70 3 ай бұрын
You all have cleared the first step of your life, i.e; competing all aspirants and finally got good rank, ya I am in just standard 10th😢
@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js
@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js 3 ай бұрын
Good Evening Sir I started watching your channel in late december and I am admired to see a professor guiding the students early for which branch to choose. Unfortunately, I only scored 155 in Jee advanced and took a drop to enter top 7 IITs with a good circuital branch. I hope I can enter IIT KGP and meet you. Thanks for reading.
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
All the best.
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp 3 ай бұрын
Even if you don't get circuital in top 7 IITs - it's perfectly fine. We have so many branches that even Mechanical, Chemical too come inside 'top branches', not only CSE, ECE and EE.
@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js
@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js 3 ай бұрын
@@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp But bhaiya agar mehnat kar sakta hu toh puri karunga.. I know ki expectations 0 rakhni chayiye but if 155 ka score chora hei kuch alag karna hei iss saal... I also wanna only enter IITKGP considering it is one of the oldest IIT with the best teachers in entire INDIA after I guess IISc Bangalore. Thanks.
@Devi-g8n
@Devi-g8n 3 ай бұрын
​@@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js next year competition will be tougher , remember that and all the best
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp
@ankitbhattacharjee_iitkgp 3 ай бұрын
@@DaddyLongLegs-lc5js all the best. Will see you next year then 👍
@sundernarayan2643
@sundernarayan2643 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful perspective on the comparison of learning in coaching classes and learning in college. You are right in pointing out that the goals are different. An analogy of series of sprints in a long race is on the spot. The other thing is in college these sprints are connected. End of the performance in series of sprints determine the outcome of the long race both in terms of learning and marks/results. There is one phrase which we are always taught when we try to learn something new and that is to unlearn what you have learnt. I guess thats the same when students come in to college life. They need to unlearn the past methods of learning in some way to learn new methods of learning. May be this could be emphasized in orientation programme.
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. You have mentioned a couple of great points: How the sprints are connected in college and The need to unlearn certain things.
@AshmitSinha2005
@AshmitSinha2005 3 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for making a video on this topic.. This was very very important for the transition from coaching to college.. Thanks prof JC!!
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@warriordefenderw_d6614
@warriordefenderw_d6614 3 ай бұрын
Good Evening sir, Sir every time i listen your words its a true delightfull feeling and so true. Sir, in my 10 plus 2 level, I've never opted such a coaching centre which is totally oriented on the JEE advance level Or any competitive exam based studying which also might be the reason that why I not selected in any IITs or in NITs and got eliminated from this race even having 93% in my boards but instead I developed a long-term mechanism in the self study by making my own notes from the books i studied that will help me in long run as none was there to guide me that time. Sir i have taken admission in Heritage Institute of Technology if you know it in West Bengal in Chemical Engineering branch. Sir please bless all of us and I hope that now i will do better in future. Thank you sir, Myself Souvik Chatterjee
@Sumit_Singh777
@Sumit_Singh777 3 ай бұрын
Thank you professor you're each video give us a guidence which we rarely get anywhere...Thanks for your clarity which we got everytime after watching your video...🙏
@RishiVaish-ym1nr
@RishiVaish-ym1nr 3 ай бұрын
I really like your opinion and the timing, sir. Very nicely complemented. Thank you :)
@lightyagami8760
@lightyagami8760 3 ай бұрын
As someone who's preparing for PhD fellowship exams post Masters, I feel sad about how coaching destroyed the zeal for knowledge and sciences. School students mostly just study sciences just for the sake of clearing exams. There's no interest in trying to understand how a concept came about, how was it discovered etc. There's no interest in research. Many of these students end up doing well in these entrances but suffer in colleges as in colleges the way of teaching changes drastically. There's infinite resources available, there are standard books, Indian books etc. There's finally actual practical knowledge and experimentation. And if your luck is good, then even research opportunities. Most of the students even ignore all these as they're just there to get placements and leave. Its sad to see the current state of India research field. Its often thought that those who don't get success in any other field end up joining PhD for research. There's no respect for research.
@Raunaktillend
@Raunaktillend 3 ай бұрын
I am 100% Agree with you
@anonymoose8899
@anonymoose8899 3 ай бұрын
That is to be expected since corporate is more lucrative financially. And research is not all rainbows and flowers; most "research" is simply writing papers for the sake of getting grants and the professorship is simply a chore to some. But yes it is true that research in India is severely lacking in quantity and quality and I hope that it improves. I wish to pursue Plasma Physics in a research based career and I'm joining college this year.
@ruchipandey8837
@ruchipandey8837 3 ай бұрын
Sir you are genuine teacher but what about those students who were not privileged enough to get coaching and they end up landing into a tier 3 govt.college .nobody talks about them .
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics
@RamizZamanJEEPhysics 3 ай бұрын
Yes. They should also be allowed for JEE Advanced atleast once or twice. Everyone can't get the proper guidance at an early age.
@Devi-g8n
@Devi-g8n 3 ай бұрын
​@@RamizZamanJEEPhysics agreed 💯
@Supratimdas7109
@Supratimdas7109 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for your guidance and insight into college life and how it will be different from our coaching life. Will be joining Jadavpur University Electrical engineering department this year as a freshman.
@idamonica6614
@idamonica6614 3 ай бұрын
Sir , congratulations on being selected as one of the best teachers in the institute 🎉🎉🎉
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
KGPian? Where did you learn the news?
@idamonica6614
@idamonica6614 3 ай бұрын
@@Prof_JC Yes Sir. From LinkedIn
@Farid.biology
@Farid.biology 3 ай бұрын
Sir please make a video for aspiring teachers, joining coaching industry vs being a professor in college
@shyamshankar3498
@shyamshankar3498 3 ай бұрын
Feeling enthusiastic of learning from you in the coming years✨✨
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
Are you in IIT KGP Mech 1st year?
@shyamshankar3498
@shyamshankar3498 3 ай бұрын
@@Prof_JC Yes sir💖💖
@KoushaniS
@KoushaniS 3 ай бұрын
But sir do all professors in all colleges actually care about the students? As far as I have heard from friends and even my own relatives that,rarely the professors care about imparting knowledge to the students
@themimyth
@themimyth 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much sir❤❤, this was very helpful
@communist_amoeba3923
@communist_amoeba3923 3 ай бұрын
Thank you a lot sir your this valuable information
@rishabhpatil242
@rishabhpatil242 3 ай бұрын
Sir does it apply to tier3-tier4 private colleges also? Are their courses structures well planned? Do they emphasize on learning the fundamental concepts of subjects? If they don't do so, what should be our approach towards academics?
@nandanchitragar2707
@nandanchitragar2707 3 ай бұрын
Sir please make another video on developing problem solving skills. I am not able to solve any of the problems on my own. But after looking into the solution , I realize that I could have thought of that but each time that doesn't strike my mind.
@ElectronProton-jz5es
@ElectronProton-jz5es 3 ай бұрын
Sir please upload a video for jee 2026 aspirants
@arnabroy4154
@arnabroy4154 3 ай бұрын
Sir i m currently taking admission in Instrumentation and Electronics Engineering at Jadavpur University...while talking to some of the seniors and online friends...i came to know that everybody is going with coding as their prime working for getting into the IT field 4yrs later...Iam quite confused...iam quite interested in physics....and i dont want to leave the core electronics...is coding really necessary????😞
@jspbxy1
@jspbxy1 3 ай бұрын
Sir i choose ECE department over cse as my university offers me ece is this demanding a branch and can we get good package
@YatharthKumar-yu3tq
@YatharthKumar-yu3tq 3 ай бұрын
sir I highly request you to guide jee 2026 aspirants 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
@Ikigai-z31
@Ikigai-z31 3 ай бұрын
Sir, I have joined engineering (ece+ vlsi) in a college near my hometown, im really not satisfied with my college and course , I'm goin to take partial drop for iat exam ( kinda tough than jee nd neet ) will I able to manage both sir? Nd my college travelling hour is 2hrs
@beingnatural7425
@beingnatural7425 3 ай бұрын
Sir, please make a video on important things to consider while taking notes in lecture.
@PavanVG-2506
@PavanVG-2506 2 ай бұрын
Hi sir iam from tamilnadu Sir in my boards I got exactly 75% in 6 subjects Tamil-77 English -81 Phys-67 Chem-69 Maths-78 Cs-78 But if i calculate according to josaa counselling rule for 5 subjects I got 74.6% what should I do in my board there is no improvement exam Pls reply me Should I take drop?and prepare for iit ..
@Rudraksha-l4n
@Rudraksha-l4n 3 ай бұрын
I want to know what books are referred to students at IIT (Delhi) in their first year engineering course.
@Lucifer-os8wu
@Lucifer-os8wu 3 ай бұрын
Sir if I want to go for MSC PhD dual degree in physics through IIT JAM then which clg would be best to choose????🤔🤔🤔
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 3 ай бұрын
No do MSc first. PhD in India is horrible. You won't get paid and they make you work a lot. Apply for some foreign uni for PhD.
@Lucifer-os8wu
@Lucifer-os8wu 3 ай бұрын
@@FreakGUY-007 ohh okay thanks 👍
@Raunaktillend
@Raunaktillend 3 ай бұрын
Sir i am a neet aspirant In my coaching the teachers are not like teachers they are like robot they just come and open book see this question and how to solve it that's it they never tell real life example and why this question asked how can we relate to real life with these methods students are just getting knowledge for short term
@YouStudyRaj
@YouStudyRaj 3 ай бұрын
Sir Please Tell about that How can we get good package in ME ,what skills are required?
@ushar6892
@ushar6892 3 ай бұрын
Sir, even your college admits students through these elimination tests. Can you please recommend any change in the entrance process, so that students with genuine aptitude and knowledge get admitted?
@awperbhai8275
@awperbhai8275 3 ай бұрын
how to score 9+ CPI in 1st year sir, please make a video regarding this.
@tejukushipatil666
@tejukushipatil666 3 ай бұрын
Sir if we do 11th two times how many attempt we will get for JEE ADVANCED
@ihcihciycyic
@ihcihciycyic 3 ай бұрын
Sir maine 12th me PCB liya hain aur maths as an additional subject liya hain to kya mai jee mains2025 and advance ke liye eligible hun kya .. Please resolve this problem sir ,I am very much confused 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@niranjan2726
@niranjan2726 3 ай бұрын
Hi, sir Can you please make a video on MTech specialization's in Mechanical in IIT Kharagpur. Please include there scope placements wise, recruiters in core and salaries🙏
@informalchipmunk5775
@informalchipmunk5775 3 ай бұрын
Watching this from kalidas audi. Kalidas has pretty good wifi 😂
@Mangalasseryneelakandan777
@Mangalasseryneelakandan777 3 ай бұрын
Sir I've completed my 12th this year and I wanted to take up physics as i was interested in astrophysics so i thought i would do masters and then go for phD.. but then i heard that there is not much scope and also..a PhD takes so many years and a job is not so promisable. I don't know if I'm up for engineering if i wanted to do it.. So i was planning to take a repeat year and all..but now it's too late and there's only 5 months left now😢 I don't know if i should prepare from now or join a private engg college.. I would greatly appreciate it if you would reply.. Thank you ❤
@Ok-fq4tz
@Ok-fq4tz 3 ай бұрын
Sir 2023 was my drop year, I was hospitalised for sometime and time went for my recovery and I couldnt perform in my jee.. Is there any provision to allow Advance for second droppers? please say sir..
@nareshtg17
@nareshtg17 3 ай бұрын
Sir is it possible to clear Jee from online classes ?
@IgnitedPhoenix
@IgnitedPhoenix 3 ай бұрын
Sir , please guide for gate exam I am in first year
@NIT_R
@NIT_R 3 ай бұрын
Sir are mtech students in IIT given the opportunity to learn entrepreneurship and do startup
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
At the IITs all students have all sorts of opportunities. Everything is there. But the students have to take advantage of these opportunities through their own initiative.
@thetopways5296
@thetopways5296 3 ай бұрын
Sir I am fresher of IIT kgp civil engineering department. Can I meet you casually as I wanna put my gratitude and have a picture?
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
Sure.
@M.Shamshad.42
@M.Shamshad.42 3 ай бұрын
Good Eve Sir , I am writing this comment with the hope that you will respond Sir Sir , I am currently a student of class 10th in Jawahar Navodaya Vidyalaya, I am dealing with a very severe confusion that is , My some classmates instead of focusing too much on academics , they used to watch different type of educational videos pretending that they are doing self development and instead they are somewhat have gained so much knowledge on various topics and are looking somewhat quite smart enough. Sir , I am very academics person & I don't like so much exploring on social media and don't put too much interest in gossips etc. Sir , I have somewhat heard that when you looks for job or you want to be hired after graduation from NITs , IITs , etc, then in interviews you should have knowledge on different topics or, companies want to have so much skills and knowledge in you. Sir I am in confusion that should I also focus on exploration on this time or in college days this is covered ? Sir, when I try to use social media , I found a loss of focus in my studies and lost my productivity. Sir , I like to completely avoid phone type of things and even I enjoy to eleminating it. Sir during elimination, I found that I am somehow letting behind. What should I do sir at this moment ? & You also know sir that this is my boards . Sir I think many of us may engaged in such type of gaining knowledge. Sir if it is possible to make a video raising such type of issues , I will be very thankful to you. Sir If not ,sir please give your opinion, Your response will be so beneficial for me............Sir Please 🙏🙏
@gurleenkaur1571
@gurleenkaur1571 3 ай бұрын
Hi , I can give my view point as I m in first year of clg . At present you should concentrate on your studies becos that's what important to you . Secondly, if you dont like scrolling social media then avoid it , you are not gonna ask about what's trending on social platforms in either of your board exam . On the other hand , person who has good knowledge about current affair or social media is consider as cool and knowing about these things is not bad . The thing is to know about these trending stuff over internet doesn't need to spend your whole day on social media . So , focus on your studies if you think that you should know about these things then just read newspaper or watch dhruv Rathi videos or read articles on news websites . Rest about the companies you said in your question, I also Don't know much about it but as you are not in clg you have alot time to search these things but for now your boards should be priority.
@M.Shamshad.42
@M.Shamshad.42 3 ай бұрын
@@gurleenkaur1571 Thanks for your response. Currently, with which college you are joined ?
@rupasisanyal9967
@rupasisanyal9967 3 ай бұрын
Sir, My son is in 11th science. We put my son in school not in coaching .He is JEE aspirant. Without going to coaching class ,how he can prepare for JEE. It would be a great help,if you can make a video,how to prepare JEE without coaching classes.
@Prof_JC
@Prof_JC 3 ай бұрын
While it is theoretically possible to do without coaching, but in normal circumstances because everyone is taking the support of coaching, it becomes difficult without directed experienced guidance. If possible, try to put your son into some non-residential type of coaching - meaning he goes to their class but stays at home.
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