IKEA makes cheap USB power adapters

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The leakage on the 30W adapter is still within an expectable range for the test standards, the testing I show is the worst case leakage and doesn't consider the impedance of the human body as part of the circuit. It may be detectable but it can still be considered safe. The 45W adapter is still better from a leakage perspective.

[@HieuNguyen-ek2by]

USA standards is 500uA for medical grade, so this is well within safety standards by a factor of 2x, even at 240V circuits.

[@Mainsail1975au]

I didn't realise that "charging" feeling when touching the phone was leakage.

[@typxxilps]

great comparison and analysis so I have subscribed cause no clickbait, no junk, just good craftmanship and presentation. Quite happy, can not wait to see more.

[@Vortexone112]

Wonder if they could bin by leakage so that higher mains countries get the lower leakage parts

[@utube9487]

Is this a GaN charger or the old school type? Thanks.

[@jezusrvd]

This is the first reviewer I’ve seen that addresses the tingling feeling from adapters. Amazing work

[@uiopuiop3472]

i use the fanuc eoat system for killing adaptors that have tingling feeling. just setting the tool length to 1 meters instead of standard and now it goes into the bosch exturded aluminium profile!! just need to set payload to less than 0.4 kg for lr mate 200id for it to not crash entirely into the profile bed!! it may be also good idea to set the inertial values but if you dont have payload checker bought then you may skip it!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Glad it was helpful!

[@hhhfghhh]

@@AllThingsOnePlaceI really hate how most companies go "It doesn't need a ground pin", but like I've been zapped so many times while using earphones, had humming transfer to speakers/headphones...

[@-szega]

Reaching 90% efficiency at 10% load shows how far we've come with small-scale SMPS since the 2000s.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's common now.

[@ahgflyguy]

“This video has lots of call-forwards I’m never going to get to.” Optimism and realism were thrown into a blender and I like the result.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Only the best!

[@MautreXvids]

Am i the only one who has a high trust in ikea even when it comes to power adapters? It feels like ikea just don't want to make a quick buck they actually want to have a good quality reputation. (I'm Swedish so it may affect my opinion)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, no it's true, they make some really good power adapters. I'm harsh on the 30W because the 45W is much better. Just happened to be in the same video, but both are good quality.

[@gyorgybereg6916]

"- That's my charger! - No, it's mine! It has the blue sticker on it!" They probably figure it would be mixed up like in a summer camp. Or at home. 😂

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah. It is possible.

[@TheDeveloperGuy]

If I remember correctly, that’s for matching cables and chargers.

[@gyorgybereg6916]

@@TheDeveloperGuy reasonable given that they work as a power supply as well.

[@ruemignon]

At least you don't run the risk of buying a fake adapter from any IKEA store. Grab one if you happen to be shopping there. 15 bucks is probably less than the tip you are forced to give at a restaurant nowadays.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, true.

[@mrgringo7289]

still think the 100w baseus or rocoren 100w for around 25 is better value

[@daijoubu4529]

@@mrgringo7289 those 100W are $40, where do you get it for $25??

[@mrgringo7289]

@@daijoubu4529 aliexpress just add them i your basket, remove them, click kn them, and then look at super discounts or whatever once in a while.

[@mrgringo7289]

@@daijoubu4529 got the recoren for 23 euros not dollars

[@JillRhoads]

IKEA really has some wonderful electronics considering they arent an electronic company. Their automatic blinds are wonderful! I've set up my apple Home to open the curtains when I say "good morning". I feel like I live in a movie every time I do that.

[@RV-jq5pb]

IKEA doesn’t manufacture anything technically.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, they make you assemble it yourself too.

[@garfieldandfriends1]

I do believe IKEA has decent quality control

[@kilerratt]

​@@RV-jq5pbyes they do

[@dijoxx]

It's a bad idea to use proprietary products and clouds for home automation, for a multitude of reasons.

[@WizardTim]

Although you did measure 252 μA of "AC leakage current" which is indeed above the maximum touch current permitted by IEC60601-1 for Class II devices (250 μA), unfortunately, this isn't how it's supposed to be measured. The Vitrek V74 gives you the "direct" AC leakage current through the DUT and the return connection which goes through an internal ~10 ohm current shunt (at least that's what's in my V63). The standardized touch current tests such as the 'equipment leakage' test requires a special HBM (Human Body Model) circuit to be placed in series, this more accurately represents a realistic touch current a person would experience which will always be lower than the direct AC leakage figure of 252 μA which you measured. So rest assured this unit is still safe and within spec, it likely just has a slightly large Y class capacitor than the lower wattage unit. Also surprised you only tested the unit up to 500 V, the Vitrek V74 is perfect for the 3 kV ACrms insulation withstanding test as required in IEC60950-1 for Class II for ITE devices like this one, I find if a charger is poorly made it will fail this 3 kV test with arcing and sometimes with catastrophic insulation breakdown.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thank you for the comment. I agree with you, I'm not justifying or arguing, can't tell on these comments how it comes across or what your intention is. I was going to show it is safe in the teardown and that, yes, it is a higher capacitance value Y Class capacitor, it should've been part of this video. I was thinking content strategy not technical and rushing, of course this video gets all the views, hopefully you hit the dislike button. Anyway, sorry to disappoint and I'm sure of one thing, it will happen again. Options: 1. I could calculate with a 'body level' impedance in series and it would be a lower value. The video is done subjective, not standard based anyway. 2. Change to a multimeter showing leakage to earth or capacitance, something more basic, and hopefully this will show products in a more positive light. 3. Drop it entirely. For the testing, I am keeping it at a safer level, this is for me, since I don't have this in a large enough space nor do I have an isolation box, which I want, but yeah insulation or dielectric tests are possible and yeah some will go pop.

[@WizardTim]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Apologies if I came across as accusatory or angry, and don't worry I didn't dislike the video over it. I would suspect this video got more views because of the thumbnail with you pointing at the big red text "ABOVE MAX LIMIT" which is exactly why I clicked, I thought I was about to witness IKEA take a multi-million dollar _L_ having to recall and destroy all their new power adapters. That and you talking about it negatively after measuring that 252 μA figure were my main issues with the video making me comment as I felt it was unfair to the power adapter but also looked to be in error as you look to be building the channel on your integrity and quality reviews. I think it would be good to try to keep the touch current test, after all it is a nuanced measurement so very few other people do it despite it being a rather important one as it's a pretty good indicator of quality and compliance with mandatory safety requirements so could be a niche to make you standout. But I wouldn't pass any judgement on devices that were over the 250 μA or 500 μA limits unless it was measured with the correct human body model for the standard that applies to the class of product being tested, particularly not by 2 μA. It could be feasible for you depending how deep you want to go to use a body model from one of the standards, IEC 60950-1 which applies to most power adapters uses just three resistors and two capacitors to simulate a standard touch through the human body, you'd just connect in to a multi-meter and the power adapter plugged in your AC source. With that you could with justification criticize devices that exceed 250 μA. The body model also more realistically accounts for the perception of frequencies so you could fairly rank power adapters by touch current, after all a SMPS which has a more expensive shielded transformer to remove the Y class capacitor should be credited for doing so, it's what a lot of OEMs like Samsung and Apple do in their PSUs and are a contributing factor to why they're more expensive and/or less efficient. But the consumer will never find that printed on the box. Otherwise you could just use a multi-meter to measure the direct AC leakage current when plugged into your AC power source, but just refer to it as a rough measure of the tingle to differentiate between shielded and Y class designs rather than comparing it to the 250 μA limit for any sort of safety acceptability. (an unreasonably high leakage would still be cause for concern) And yeah I don't blame you wanting to keep it safe, I'm also not keen on being around my V63 during the 3 kV Hi-POT tests either. After all touching the high voltage output will shock you but won't trip a GFCI, but I don't have an isolation box or anything, that would be way too big. Affixing the socket to the bench to stop it sliding around helps, you can also wire up a momentary interlock button and remote start button to the rear connector which is almost as good as an interlocked isolation box. (I'm just a bit confused about why you have it if not for the Hi-POT functionality) But all that aside, seriously well done on making those videos, despite all what I've said your videos are still vastly more informative and important that the any video by other "reviewers" that just unbox power adapters and read some marketing points and say "it feels good quality". Getting things wrong is the risk of taking difficult measurements and being critical, it's pretty much impossible to get everything perfect first time.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

​@@WizardTim Thanks for the detailed reply! Yeah, I assume the worst. Also, yes, that icon is click bait and apparently that works... but also I learned something and for that I am greatly appreciative! On the testing, the tester stopped at 250 uA a little short of the target voltage, but still not excessive, it's set up that way. I was using the power supply before, multimeter, this setup is much better and easier. I started work on the teardown and this has both a shielded transformer and a class Y capacitor and my first reaction was why? Must not have passed EMI or something. The leakage I was over the top on, I know and understand, I mostly didn't like it because it was worse than the other one, I should have just stuck to that. The 45W is a pretty good power adapter. Inside is interesting as well. Yes, the intention is to also test insulation but I'm just getting started on the process, so yes, will be doing the higher voltages. Thanks for understanding as well and I add more context to leakage test. I'll have to buy 60950-1, I have a bunch of the other ones but not that one. That 250 microamps is 'feelable' but it isn't dangerous for normal interactions with devices, I think the work has been done but for some reason I can't find good papers on it. Anyway, I will pin a comment stating that the leakage is higher than the other adapter but still acceptable as a whole because it's the worst case leakage not using the human body model of leakage. Overall, awesome comment though and this is why I do this too!

[@Locutus]

I didn't even look at the thumbnail. I just looked at the video title.

[@FIxt00l]

I checked in Bulgaria and...surprise, 15 Eur for the 45w. I will try their batteries, but having bought anker 33W charger 312 with dual ports for 16 dollars and the Ugreen non-gan 65w with 3 ports for 18...

[@rendezvu175]

Pickup some rechargeable AAA and AA batteries while you're there. They are made in Japan and probably the best in the market.

[@900Yugo]

IKEA rechargable batteries are made by Panasonic I believe.

[@blzt3206]

@@900Yugo i thought they were eneloops

[@900Yugo]

@@blzt3206 Eneloop is Panasonic,used to be by Sanyo.

[@timschulz9563]

​@@blzt3206eneloops are a Panasonic product

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Do you have anything to declare, yes, 600 rechargeable batteries.

[@symik3]

I just bought the 45W adapter. For this price, i could not get anything better. Its big, moreover its enourmous, but for this price. Perfect.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks!

[@synapticburn]

I bought one of their LED bulbs years ago when they first started selling then and it still works great. Better quality than name brand bulbs

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there's a story in that. I have one of the newer LED bulbs to investigate.

[@MY-qi8wq]

The 30W isn't that bad imo. It meets all the needs of an average person (unlike enthusiasts) - it's safe, it works, it's cheap. If someone wants a charger as cheap as possible that just works, it's not a bad choice.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I gave it a skip mostly for the higher than average leakage current. It's capable and effective though. It's interesting on the inside too.

[@HrHaakon]

To be honest, if I were to get either one for my parents, I'd get the dual port, because it lets them charge both phones using one plug.

[@gyorgybereg6916]

OMG so that tingling feeling IS real! I thought I imagined it.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Nope. This video was a hallucination. Bzzzzz.

[@gyorgybereg6916]

@@AllThingsOnePlace 🫨🫨🫨

[@fredspekvet5875]

it's most certainly real. My wife experiences it too when we're in bed and i'm holding my phone (which is connected to wall charger) and she touches my arm. remove the charger, tingle gone. it's not dangerous at all, its just annoying for people who are sensitive to it.

[@zaz5190]

Grabbed one from Ikea, works great with Pixel phone and Samsung galaxy, provides fast charging on both phones. Thanks for the review. 👍

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Nice!

[@_w_w_]

Yes, the PPS implementation on these are great, so they work with Pixel really well. He gave Walmart ONN 20W a good rating but that charger doesn't handle PPS well at all. Both of the 30W and 45W are really nice chargers consider their prices. You are talking about order of magnitude less than others...

[@nucleochemist]

These 2 models are not yet in Australia but I use their older models because they are packed full of safety features and their certifications are believable. So I feel confident using them for small projects all around the house.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, these are no different if they make it that way.

[@marieta.s]

If they work, they are safe to use and they are cheap they are good enough for me! Thanks for these videos.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

True. Thanks!

[@Millennial_Manc]

No idea why I watched this as I’m not in the market for Ikea USB adapters but I’m glad I did. I have a 3 socket one from elsewhere which tingles when I charge my iPad with the higher power socket. It’s gone in the bin. I always thought there was something off about that tingle.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, my videos get that response a lot. They all leak a little, it's much nicer when it's below the detectable threshold.

[@1234fishnet]

I like Ikea because they care about safety. They are performing recalls if necessary. That's why i only buy Ikea adapters and not from Chinese Amazon sellers

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, they put some effort into being safe. These are interesting adapters on the inside also.

[@christiannorwik]

This video came in clutch. Yesterday I bought 45W version for 69 PLN (roughly 16€) Looking forward for tear down video.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I started, it's interesting, some different things.

[@adalbert93_75]

na allegro do wyrwania za 48 zł ;)

[@adalbert93_75]

@@AllThingsOnePlace looking forward to it! :)

[@TommyThousandFaces]

I think that for the technology the humans can make and how cheaply it can be made these adapters are well priced. Interesting solution to equip people that break or lose them all the times, without having to resort to dangerous products.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, having a safer option at a low price point is nice.

[@jirimondo]

FYI - I checked Ikea Italy and the 45W adapter is for sale @ €9.99 but the 30W adapter is not for sale on the site. I'll probably pick up a couple of the 45W this summer when I am in Italy for our house there as I like to have them plugged in conveniently for my wife and her Surface Go.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

ah nice! Yeah, at that price point and for the quality of the device, very good.

[@markswishereatsstuff2500]

When you go to IKEA, pick up one of those free paper tape measures they have in the furniture dept. Keep it folded in your wallet. Weighs nothing.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks!

[@Komrade_juice]

As for your mention of leakage current and what we do in UK/Europe. We have ground pins, the tingle doesn't exist and if it does exist it indicates a ground fault in your house wiring. I had this discussion with my family in asia, they use US style plugs etc. When they came to the UK they adapted a Macbook charger to UK sockets (Obviously missing the ground pin) and immediately got a ground fault tingle from the macbook chassis. Same thing happens with my lenovo laptop when I go over there, when i plug it into the US spec wall sockets, ground fault tingle. In Short....ground your appliances...

[@target844]

It depends on where in Europe you are. In the UK you need a ground pin but if you look at SMÅHAGEL USB changes that IKEA sells there the ground pin is just plastic. SJÖSS does not look to be available in the UK. The mainland Europe variant uses a europlug, the have just two pins and no ground just like the US variant in the video.

[@pineappleroad]

Modern MacBook chargers don’t have the ground connected out of the box, you have to buy the extension cable in order to get the ground connection (which isn’t included in the box)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, apple video coming up, showing that, again.

[@mvevitsis]

Please test their cables, especially the new 100w ones

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for the recommendation!

[@HenkdePeuter]

Thanks for the vid! They are indeed big in comparison with the latest GaN chargers. Looking forward to the teardown!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks! Yeah, I started working on that already and they are interesting inside.

[@adalbert93_75]

@@AllThingsOnePlace looking forward to the teardown video to come out! :)

[@utube9487]

@@AllThingsOnePlace 5 months has gone by "-)

[@TheDeveloperGuy]

Nice measurements and great tools! Good to know I bought the best “travel” charger.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching.

[@10mbc]

I bought the 45w one with Schuko plug and it works pretty good. At the moment, while traveling I use my Thinkpad X1 Nano + Anker Nano II 45w adapter and I just charge the phone through the laptop if needed, I think it would be more practical to replace the Nano II with this one and have the posibility of charging either the laptop or the phone + the power bank at the same time. My only problem would be to retire the Anker Nano II after paying 26 euro for it after such a short run. Truth is that, while the Nano is smaller, the Ikea one will fit in the same space. Great video! Thanks!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

mm yeah, both are good adapters but I get the point, two ports and just enough power is a very interesting option. Thanks for sharing the use case!

[@lesslighter]

Considering how bigclive actually likes the smahagels I think its competitive enough

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

mmhmm.

[@RoyalFizzbin]

Regarding the rando stickers, IKEA states that “You can personalize the charger with the 3 included color stickers in green, orange and blue.” So I guess if you go out with two friends and everyone is rocking their IKEA charger, there is no confusion, provided you and your friends are sufficiently different in your color choices… …or something.

[@ahgflyguy]

This could totally work, since I only have two friends!

[@ELaster1]

If I'm trying real hard, I can come up with the thought that perhaps you might develop some system for yourself. Orange is phone, blue is laptop. Or something.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I have too many power adapters and not enough stickers (or friends).

[@elduderino7767]

prediction: top quality for the price, excellent budget options with better safety, efficiency and reliability you'd expect

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yep.

[@drachna]

These are unfortunately not available in Ireland yet, but I'll be on the lookout. 15ish euro for a 45 watt charger would be an incredible deal.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

ah, yeah, the 45W charger is a nice buy if they make it available.

[@Glasseh]

Appreciate you looking into these!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No problem. They are interesting.

[@WattTheTech]

Think I will pick up the 45w next time I go. What’s your view on the USB-C cables they make? “SITTBRUNN” looks like they are in different colours.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'm not sure if I checked them out or not, I have a pile of untested cables here to add to the list though.

[@darklistener89]

The 30w version is able to power my laptop with 20v pd. No other sub 10€ charger is able to do that. Its a 8€ laptopcharger. And one of the lightest tooo.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Nice! Thanks for sharing.

[@juanginesramisvivancos3268]

I have just got one of the 45w version and It can charge my msi prestige 15 while using it, slowly but it charges. It does not charge the laptop while charging any other device. What it can do is to charge the steam deck and the Nintendo Switch at the same time, even while playing on the deck. For the price it is really nice since I can work on my laptop while it is slowly charging which is better for the battery

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Wow, that's nice that it can charge the Steam Deck and Switch while playing even... Yeah, I understand the laptop wanting the full 45W for charging, bigger battery. Thanks!

[@juanginesramisvivancos3268]

@@AllThingsOnePlace It's my pleasure. To give more information the deck and the switch charge at 12v when both are connected at the same time. They charge at 15v which is their preferred voltage when only one is connected. Another positive thing I noticed is that while working on the laptop, I can't feel any "static electricity" which is great because I can definitely feel it while charging with an older 60w aukey charger.

[@valentin3186]

Relatively good filtering, 15 bucks is a steal. The thing that concerns me is the internal components choice inconsistency. On the next batch they might get a cheaper offer from a different oem Great video, glad I found your channel

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They have limited options when it is safety listed.. listed components, etc. you know, consumers wouldn't see it anyway. But the unlisted one on 'pick your market' for cheap as chips, they can do whatever they want inside that can. So, this is still better than nothing is all I'm saying and for the price is better than most. They could change control chips and add or remove USB modes though. They can switch OEM's entirely but the product will be marked differently on the outside. Apple does this too, but they all test the same. I've tested about 20 of those little 5W bricks, generationally they've changed but overall performance is still essentially the same. They reduced the idle power usage to comply with DOE VI mostly.

[@valentin3186]

@@AllThingsOnePlace valid point, thank you for the reply and explanation. Keep rocking 👌

[@daijoubu4529]

The USB-A Koppla were well reviewed

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I think they try.

[@PekPiu]

And it would be nice to know if the 45W power is available to be negotiated by a test bench, real devices, etc. It is very usual for 45W power to push only 18W out, which the powered device claims 30W support (with QC3 and/or PPS). I found that 45W adapter to be good enough, and very good for its price, but so far, I never got any device to pull the full 45W out from it. Yes, I've tried with very thick and pro USB-C cables too, still no 45W.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That's the device not the adapter. The adapter can do that power level just fine.

[@ricsip]

Just bought a couple of the 45W ones some weeks ago. Now I know it was worth of it, especially as they were very well priced compared with what they know (PD and PPS capability). Are you planning to test the truly cheap value IKEA chargers? For example the 5W SMÅHAGEL? (Output accuracy, efficiency etc)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I did the 5W adapter on a short, it's not very efficient but it works and it's safe.

[@MrMat43211]

please can you make a video about the adaptor you made , howe to make it and how it works thank you!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I'd have to have finished something to do that.

[@snh4228]

Have you tried making a power adapter? Would love to see one you made, and how it performs/stacks up against regular adapters.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, it's a lot of work. I should state that what they've achieved here is amazing, whether the larger or smaller adapters. But yeah, my junk adapter would probably be terrible, or really large/expensive and just okay.

[@snh4228]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Interesting. I'm curious what makes the difference in all of these, why one performs better than another. Not sure if you have insight on that kind of thing, but would be an interesting video sometime! Enjoyed this video as usual,

[@SwissPGO]

Great video, just sad you could not test it on 230V/50 Hz voltage which covers about 80% of the world population.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, just a rule of thumb, double the idle power consumption, still in compliance with the EU 2019, and add 1% to the average efficiency for these lower wattage adapters. I don't always test on 230 but sometimes I throw it in. It's basically a free extra minute of content for maybe an hour of extra effort.

[@SwissPGO]

@@AllThingsOnePlace I understand, but you could do all the work on 230 V 50Hz, which covers 80% of the population, and then use rule of thumb ;-) I guess you're US based - so I understand why you test the way you showed. Thanks

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

I have the dual type c adapter for my iPhone 15 pro max(uses MagSafe) and my iPad pro(uses type c)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, that seems like a good matchup, is it working for both?

[@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440]

@@AllThingsOnePlace yes it works for both

[@scherge]

I have admit to having watched way too many reviews on cables, chargers, and power banks that I don't need over the weekend 😅 but your videos are just too interesting. Also, you are definitely the only ACTUAL reviewer of those electronic devices. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE else, on KZbin basically only tells you how well the charger/ power bank charges your iPhone and your Mac Book and nothing more. What a waste of time, so annoying. If you were to test the Sharge 170, I would be very interested in hearing your opinion on that device. Anyway, please keep up the great work 👍

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

There are a few reviewers that provide more data. YT doesn't promote videos like this often, actually this is the first video I've ever had get this kind of viewership, also hard to sell products when you provide real information so manufacturers aren't exactly chomping at the bit to support the channel. Yes, the Sharge 170 is on the list but it's not a high priority, I have to frame that around aesthetics since the product itself I have worries about.

[@IroXtreme]

Great video, thanks. Would be really interested in a teardown!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Working on the teardown.

[@nich-nk2cr]

What if this is just a Costco move? Could these be loss leaders?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They might be, I started the teardown and they are not built down to a price.

[@lassikinnunen]

Nah they're expensive enough to do a profit. Cheapo pd's are much cheaper nowadays.

[@thomasbroker69]

Great review of what I thought was just a normal power adapter, I get a tingling feeling from my Apple Mac Studio Ultra, that’s mains voltage , should that be the same?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

That's the same effect.

[@jojodroid31]

Small thing but you're missing the Ü in the TÜV on your comparison tables.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, that's pure laziness. I'll try to get that added in.

[@johnjones841]

Did you ever review an adapter that doesn't reset the ports on renegotiation? I know some do it partially and the SlimQ did but didn't have any safety markings, but the only devices I know didn't do it were powerbanks

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there are some, but they come with other limitations. The monoprice 40W for example. There's a review and teardown somewhere.

[@MassimoTava]

Being a little over on the voltage compensates for resistance in cable?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, assuming people are using long cables, I'm testing best case essentially, very short/low resistance cables and four wire sensing on the USB board.

[@adalbert93_75]

We are still waiting for the teardown review of the 45W Sjoss adapter - It really is a great charger!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I know, the torn down pieces have been in every newer video between the power analyzer and the load testers. haha

[@adalbert93_75]

@@AllThingsOnePlace still waiting! :D

[@anishparulekar1171]

Nice video! Taking a look at the nexode pro 100w and nexode x 100 w from green would be interesting!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I've had the nexode 100W in a cart for like 4 months now. Still haven't bought it.

[@Mr_Good_Fun]

So 30w will be good only to charger 15 pro max or should invest for 45w ? What cable will fit to this model ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'd probably go for the 45W just for the better performance of the adapter itself. For phone charging, I'd basically pick any cable, shortest needed length.

[@unintendedperson]

thanks now you include the safety compliance. perhaps you can try review vention power adapter if it available in there. it have 3/2 TUV compliance, but i have one which didnt have safety compliance.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I will check if I can get them.

[@brandonmorris3746]

Why does this video have so many views compared to the other ones? Dont get it wrong, love your channel and used it for Christmas gifts.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No idea. The algorithm giveth and it taketh away. thoughts: It ranked high on google search for some reason and YT has FOMO which pushed it to more users. The icon drew in a few people more than usual but yeah the video is no better than others, maybe even a little worse. The video found a new audience, in viewers from Great Scott, EEVblog, Andreas Spiess. It didn't convert many of them to subscribers though, almost none, I think it is too void of technical details for that audience. Performance wise the view time is awful, so probably watching a short snippet from within google and not watching on youtube or clicking on then immediately clicking off, ha. But yeah, I expected the usual 3,000 or so views I get on videos not 200,000 views. It's rare but this video actually covered the cost of the adapters!

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

It annoys me that they haven't made one for the ÅSKVÄDER lineup ( a socket-system available in Europe; they have standard European power socket, dual USB-A sockets, and power switch, but not USB-C. I'm still hoping.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, I've seen the power system there, the 30W electronics are small enough they could get them into one of the boxes for that, maybe even a socket and a 30W USB.

[@thorbjrnhellehaven5766]

@@AllThingsOnePlace they have modules with one and two sockets. If 45W can't fit in a single module, I wouldn't mind a double size module, if they can fit more power then.

[@eugenelk2112]

Do Apple adapters have lower DC ripple than the 45W IKEA with dual USB-C output?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I haven't found any issues with apple adapters on the ripple side. Moderate to good performance.

[@gerrykavanagh]

Great analysis. I’d be interested in RFI analysis too, if you have the equipment

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, yeah, I'm staying away from that for now. I don't have the space. I could probably do conducted emissions but not radiated or exposure tests.

[@junkaifoong8918]

i wonder if theres any adapter that doesnt renegotiate when a new device is connected?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It's actually a constant communication with USB C so even the 1 port devices are continuously negotiating. So, occasional drop-outs are possible even on single port devices. But yes, there are some chargers that separate the USB A port power as an independent element. There are also a bunch of cheap as chips chargers that aren't very good but offer lots of low power ports.

[@AncientRights]

Would you be willing to look into the GravaStar chargers? I love the way they look but don't want them to harm anything.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I have it on the list, but haven't purchased any yet.

[@FloridaMan02]

Good job, ty for good charging data

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks for watching!

[@Mpafanai46]

Thanks for sharing ❤ I have a question :I bought a new lead acid battery 88Ah for my inverter, on the top this is writing - You must maintain a constant charging every three months to get the best result, what does that mean?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Charge balancing maybe? I'm not sure.

[@davesmith9451]

I noticed on the IKEA website that it says the 45W charger "must be completed with" their LILLHULT USB C to USB C cable. Is this just a quaint way to say "Goes great with" or do they really require you to use their cable? Just curious if you noticed that too. It does look like a great deal. I will look for one at the IKEA store in Kanata, Ontario, Canada later today.

[@intercity125]

I think it's just an odd way of saying you need a cable to actually charge with this shoehorned into a website set up for basically furniture. Certainly you don't need to use their cables.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

yeah, they operate fine with any USB C-C cable.

[@IrfanKhan-ze4yx]

It’s so you don’t try to use a USB-A to USB-C cable

[@davesmith9451]

@@intercity125 Thank you

[@davesmith9451]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks very much

[@btram6118]

How does this 45W adapter compare to the Belkin BoostCharge 67W 3 port adapter? Thanks.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

The Ikea has less power and ports of course. Belkin generally makes reasonable quality adapters. The two are the same in terms of power supply operation so if the extra port and watts are necessary...

[@btram6118]

Thank you for your quick response. I was looking for multi usb c ports travel adapter to charge my phone, hearing aids and Apple Watch. But I just found out hearing aid manufacturer recommends to use its supplied charger. Do you have recommendations for safe travel adapters with both USB A and C ports. I plan to use it for overnight charging. So no quick charge is necessary just something safe and can handle 220V. Thanks.

[@junehanzawa5165]

I'm a bit confused. On the charts you showed towards the end, the 30 watts beat the 45 watts on all of them, but then you said to skip the 30 watts charger. Please explain so we can make the correct decision. Also, are these higher watt chargers going to damage lower power items such as headsets, or do the headsets adjust the power they accept to prevent damage?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No damage, they are fine for lower powered devices. There are several charts so addressing each: the 30W is lower in the efficiency chart versus competition, for idle power is better. For value it wins, for density it does not win. I weight the efficiency heavily since that's it's primary job so that gets it the skip versus other offerings, that is an opinion though it may be perfect for your needs.

[@junehanzawa5165]

@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you for taking time to reply. I went with the Anker 150W with 4 ports (1 USB-A and 3 USB-C) after watching your reviews of it alongside the 120W. Thank you for helping me decide.

[@PeterHonig.]

Did it come with an Ikea Allen wrench?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

and one extra screw.

[@PeterHonig.]

@@AllThingsOnePlace :-)

[@gglivetv]

About "tingling"... The Macbook Pro I get from the office is ALWAYS "tingling"... EU mains, 2 prongs and no ground... WHAT CAN I DO??

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Try a different adapter.

[@Kavyatej]

that's some excellent pricing!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah.

[@utube9487]

Is this a GAN charger?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Not sure. I never finished my teardown video.

[@adalbert93_75]

@@AllThingsOnePlacewe are waiting for that video :)

[@reahs4815]

when I try to charge my laptop with the 45W charger it only says that I'm charging but I'm losing charge, It even lost charge if I turned the laptop off and let it sit for an hour. Any idea why? Charging works if I use the Ugreen 100W adapter (the one that overheats)

[@AlvinSays]

Oh man looks like a cheap decent one to have. Wasted that this model is not available in my country

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

ah, yeah. I've been running into that with some of the brands people request. I can't get them.

[@ashumz88]

I wish youd make a list that was sortable by best value etc

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks, yeah, that would add some functionality. Ultimately, it should turn into a big sortable matrix system like the universal part pickers on mouser, digikey or the like.

[@CrinosAD]

The test I didn't know I needed! Thank you! Even though, I'm in Norway and we use 230V here, so the product should be different inside. Unless they mass produce for the whole globe, and use auto sensing to select current.

[@mochabean5042]

Your latter guess is correct, they have auto sensing and operate at up to 240V.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, the input is universal voltage so it automatically adjusts as needed for the range on the product.

[@LelouchLamperouge235]

The german prices are the same in euros as yours in usd but here in Czechia the 45W comes out to be only 10,75 usd and the 30W only 6,5 usd and of course after tax when using todays google exchange rate :D

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Nice!

[@johnd339]

Request/recommendation: review steam deck 45w adapter and compare to competition. There are 'multiple million' devices out there and appetite for peripherals - see jsaux story.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks! Yeah, there's a few holes in my reviews, steam deck, switch adapter, raspberry pi adapters...

[@johnd339]

@@AllThingsOnePlace There's a lot of decks out there and manufacturer just gives one USB wall adapter. So lots of people looking for more things to buy - USB power, 'docks', power banks. Seems like a good way to get a bunch of people to your channel thru searches.

Can you write me how it is possible that when I’m charging Anker Nano Pro 20w for iPhone 15 pro max on my USB test adapter shows that I got only 10W instead of 20W ?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It depends on state of charge of the phone and the mode of operation being negotiated for. If the phone is 60+% charged or hot before charging it will probably only ask for 10 watts. If it loses comms with the cc pin, which can happen with certain usb testers, it may only charge at 5V 2A limit or not at all if it totally drops the cc pin.

@@AllThingsOnePlacethank you very much. Do you have any tips how to check if charger gives real watts ? I bought 45W but it doesn’t seems that it’s true power :(

[@gravel_slope]

can you do on the epicka? for my self more interested in the 70w and 75w

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I added it to the list. There's a big backlog.

[@christiannorwik]

And how it compares to Apple adapters?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

For which thing? Performance, they are about the same. Leakage, Apple is more in line with the 45W adapter. Good.

[@Mo.Jo.]

I assume its not GaN considering the price and size?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I haven't made it that far into the components yet but they might be.

[@daijoubu4529]

$10 and $18 CAD here, how does the Samsung 25W compares to the Ikea's 30W?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They are very similar performance wise.

[@ErikS-]

Maybe a stupid question... ... but what's the purpose of the 6 orange / green / blue stickers?!

[@-tsvk-]

If several people have them, you can mark your own with a sticker in a distinct way so that they don't get mixed up and you'll know which one is whose?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It's a secret code from the chuds.

[@jeanbrouwers]

I have a 30w GaN charger from Anker which is unable to keep suppyling 22.5w to my powerbank, it cut's sometimes and resumes charging after. Why would this be the case?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I'm not sure. My guess is that it is operating in a different mode other than the highest power mode the power adapter can supply so therefore hitting overload once in a while and causing a reset. The power adapter has a different power limit for each mode.

[@wxrld1]

Hey, with videos like this I often get thrown into a spiral of confusion on which things i can cheap out on and which I shouldn’t. I mean that mostly in a broader sense, say usb-c, hdmi, dp, ethernet cables, I feel like I’m missing a general idea where room for improvement is significant or even possible when buying more premium products. Would you be interested in making such a video?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

I do a summary video where I get more into the USB power delivery things and what matters or doesn't. It is very mixed what people want or need too. I can give my opinions but yeah eventually I need to cover more topics.

[@fredspekvet5875]

For the people with knowledge.. I am planning to throw out all the cheap junk usb wall chargers that I have and replace them with a safe , good option. Not looking for fancy features or super high wattages, just a safe device that I can plug in to my wall without worry that it'll go up un flames. What are your recommendations? 1 or 2 ports per charger should be enough. usage cases include charging headphones, mobile phones. small powerbanks. not much else.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there are a lot of options. The 45W Ikea in this video is a reasonable choice.

[@George_Raft]

Hey, what 45W charger would you recommend instead?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

This one is good. The 30W one was the skip. If one port is enough the 45W Nano II still looks good but yeah, this one is good.

[@George_Raft]

@@AllThingsOnePlaceThank you, sir. Your channel is one of the best!

[@artorias550]

Current leakage! Thank you! And here I was thinking that I am crazy and only I feel this. Why is this happening? I observe it only on new aluminium high price notebooks! Old notebooks made from plastics were fine!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

It's inherent in the design of the power supply. Although isolated, there are capacitors (both real and parasitic) inside the device that allow a small amount of AC to leak through the device. Some devices are worse than others. This Ikea adapter although safe, leaks a bit more than others.

[@atvheads]

Sjöss means sea. Or går till sjöss as we say, meaning going to sea.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Thanks! Yeah, I looked it up and was like what does that have to do with a power adapter.

[@atvheads]

@@AllThingsOnePlace Haha! All the Ikea names are nonsense.

[@lohikarhu734]

I was wondering about your "equipment stack"... Almost looks like R&S gear on the right, but hard to read... using any Rigol, or Siglent equipment? Now 'retired', after 30 years of using Tektronix, R&S, Agilent, but now on "hobbyist" budget 😥... Nice work... I did power analysis applications at R&S on oscilloscope products, as AE in Munich, and development of LED drivers at Nokia for 6 years...

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

haha, yeah lots of stuff all over the place. It certainly not in one place anymore... ha Anyway, yeah, I have a lot of mid-tier equipment, the rohde and schwarz stuff is out of my budget. I actually have come to like the interface on Siglent gear, it's purpose built and does it's one thing, although even those can get expensive. Yes, the real job has the good stuff. The power analyzer is a GW Instek, it's a nice unit for what it is. I have a linear, analog meter power supply from them, still use it, it's great. Sometime I need to do a lab tour, if I can dig my out from under all the power adapters. Anyway, thanks for sharing! Yeah, LED drivers have certainly changed a lot. Of course being Nokia I think phone scale so no idea where that's going. On the power end, looks like everyone is switching to longer strings of LED's and linear regulators in everything.

[@rowanjones3476]

Regarding higher voltage countries....I don't even see these listed for sale at ikea Australia. They do sell a 1x23W PD + A fast charge unit that looks completely different. I guess I'll just have to get the pliers out and brutalise the pins into the correct orientation.* * don’t do this. May have done it once, for science.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

hahaha, yeah, these won't take too kindly to that, the pins snap into the circuit board.

[@burgerthingz974]

hi sir what is ur other 65w recommended charger brick?? because the amazon basics are not available

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Performance wise they are all the same. It comes down to opinions of appearance and a brand you trust.

[@burgerthingz974]

@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you

[@nagisakensatou7987]

Nice video, I recently bought the new Ugreen Nexode 35W GaN dual port power adapter, a review and a teardown would be nice

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, there's only a couple of models left from UGREEN I haven't tested.

[@hgodtx]

Will the 45w power my Galaxy S22 Ultra with Super Fast 2.0 charging rates?

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

No.

[@childone4315]

sfc2.0 needs at least 4.05A on PPS so yeah, no bueno on this 1:25

[@Chris-zu4es]

baseus 160w charger would be interesting to see I can buy it now for under $60 with Amazon prime 🤔 seems too good to be true (?)

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah, sounds like one of the lower end products. I swear I have it or did it already but I guess I didn't.

[@-Gothicgirl-]

And im tomorrow buy these even before i see the video. I think they are no bad choise

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

They are not bad.

@@AllThingsOnePlaceand better choice than Sjoss ? What can you recommend for iPhone 15 pro max ?

[@electrosolve991]

We need Big Clive on the case!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Certainly continue to take inspiration from that channel, ha. Great content.

[@uguraktas8018]

Whoaa thanks for the review, it was fast. I will watch it now!

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@burhanbudak6041]

It took months to get these on stock, its cheaper then the old 40W, has more power and functionality, no A-ports but its not GaN? Its enough and if there is a problem IKEA will recall it.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Yeah.

[@BigT5]

What is a leakage current? Tingling? What? In EU 15€ for 45w one.

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

If you've experienced it you know. Some people are more sensitive to it than others. But basically AC leaks through all power adapters, some more so than others. Some leak enough that you can feel the mains voltage.

[@Catswhiskerdetector]

High tingle factor

[@AllThingsOnePlace]

Intermediate.