Illymation Just Destroyed Her Reputation..

[@brose.03]

Losing weight HEALTHILY is oftentimes a long process, especially if it’s a first-time weight loss attempt. Stubborn areas, like the stomach and thighs want to hold onto fat as long as possible. DON’T GIVE UP!! It will come off, but consistency is key. A lot of fat acceptance ppl think it’s wrong to be uncomfortable so they give up before any real progress is made.

[@theautisticfloridian291]

I am not going to lie, this is the only good comment I have seen on this video. I am someone who is overweight, and I am running a mile every day, which I started a few weeks ago, but not much improvement, some improvement, but I know it will take a while to start seeing big improvements.

[@Animefan24711]

People today don’t understand natural weight loss or muscle growth because influencers keep lying to their audiences about being natural. To go from overweight to healthy weight can take years considering you’re likely to drop 2 pounds a week if you’re lucky and that’s assuming you’re maxing out your losses.

[@tyrannicalchocolate]

​@@theautisticfloridian291 Keep up the good work. A lot of "weight loss" is actually down to perception. I started jogging daily a few years ago. After about 3 months I was really disheartened that I'd made no noticeable physical progress, until one day I sat down and realised my thighs were stick thin. It's extremely tough to keep going, but it's completely worth it, and the weight loss will come, that's as certain as the laws of physics.

[@NotZbeezybyte]

Good for you!

[@youravghuman5231]

Ikr she was just trying for like only a few months and gave up entirely and gaslit everyone into thinking it isn't worth it. She doesn't even watch people who succeeded reduce weight, there are so many examples especially on TikTok and all of them take at least one year to make it noticeable.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

“Food is just food” is like comparing mobile games to Final Fantasy 7

[@dumbbumsc5329]

This SM64 is the same as this Starfeild. “ NeItHer InhErEntLy Bad Or GoOd” She’s coping hard

[@SunYat-sen]

It’s like comparing megamind 1 to megamid 2

[@Redtrades123]

Exactly we love final fantasy but mobile games are just better

[@Devilhunter69]

Dont disrespect talking tom 😡

[@LilDemonkulous]

Kingdom hearts would like to have a word with you sir lol

[@CalsGirl97]

Her friend Dillon got her to destroy her career by calling her ugly in the most round about way possible. He just used Think Before You Sleep to do it.

[@dumbbumsc5329]

Yeah, that dude was the main instigator in this WHOLE situation. Though, not even watching the vid and telling people to report it is not a good response

[@joelofjudah9144]

Let's give a slow clap for the white knight.

[@romylosvspartan4208]

She is super clapped tho don't lie

[@ambersummer2685]

Yep, he’s the bully here

[@sen8078]

it was all planned fr fr

[@brinkieboo]

i think what she was trying to say was all foods are okay to eat in moderation.

[@Blazearrow]

And that you shouldnt compare your morality to the food you eat

[@trentonujig7453]

exactly what she did, no one watched her video before making these videos

[@jayminyoel7911]

@@trentonujig7453what a joke lol, you clearly didn’t watch this video.

[@Shockerpitzwei]

Finally someone who gets it

[@Hutchgold]

Maybe that was she was “trying” to say but she didn’t said that , she said food is food and that’s not a good thing to teach people

[@Higesgirl]

I used to be a fan of hers (her dating while autistic video was my favorite) and I'm a fan of TBYS. So when I heard about her trying to strike down not only his video, but his entire channel? Unsubbed immediately. She didn't even watch it. How sensitive can you be to valid criticism?

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Oh that dating video was nice!

[@SunYat-sen]

Twice the pride, double the fall You either die a hero or live ling enough to become the villain

[@V1TheWarMachine]

Illy just thought that since she a had the larger following she’d win. She needs to look in the mirror.

[@arigatameiwaku]

@@V1TheWarMachine sure thing,she needs to learn how to dress up,she is a cute girl

[@V1TheWarMachine]

@@arigatameiwaku I didn’t mean physically, but sure. I personally won’t comment on her appearance, but she needs to think about what’s in her heart.

[@Phd366]

When people say eating healthy is “restrictive” it’s like saying not using drugs is “restrictive”… IT’S YOUR HEALTH. It shouldn’t be seeing as restrictive…

[@sakamotosan1887]

"You're just holdin' me back, maaaan. I just wanna be free, maaan."

[@Vlek]

to be fair it is restrictive when a big percentage of the average american food intake just isnt that healthy its like walking into a store and only being able to get the more expensive and few options that is restrictive man

[@sen8078]

​@@Vlekpov: just make your own food

[@pajomk]

@@sen8078 Pov: you don't know what pov is

[@prettyradhandle]

@@pajomk pov: who gaf

[@KO_JSS]

I did not think I’d every hear Pegasus talking about think before you sleep

[@mr.commonsense]

same. We both knew this was gonna happen

[@fusionspace175]

It's the crossover we didn't know we needed. Really though they're both manosphere jr, it's not that shocking. Do you know what a pipeline is?

[@Atisdel_Entertainment_Official]

Fr it's quite interesting

[@Ok_Gamer0]

Agreed

[@gamegoyang]

@@fusionspace175 pegasus and tbys on several occasions has called out the manosphere what are you on dude lmfao

[@deviousangel336]

Being fat and being unhealthy are two completely different things. You can be otherwise healthy and still be overweight. "Calories in, calories out" is a massive oversimplification that completely ignores things like genetics. Also, her video is about learning to love your body. She literally says that you shouldn't eat anything in excess

[@LunetteFox]

To a point I think I see what she is saying by "Food is just food". A chocolate bar contains sugar that the body needs for energy, and can be as beneficial to eat as a carrot is for that fiber. But the key thing to remember is "MODERATION" when eating that chocolate bar, because too many is what makes them bad for you, unlike the carrot.

[@The_Yukki]

Too much carrots does have negative effects. Especially when they are dodgy sourced since carrots have tendency to just suck up all the garbage from the ground. But even if we assume top quality carrots, overeating them can literally make you orange. Granted that's just cosmetic thing but still a thing. They are also relatively high in sugar as far as veggies go, which is why (ofc depending on a carrot, and how used you are to sweet taste) they are often pretty sweet. Ofc you'd have to eat way more carrots than chocolate to actually see bad effects.

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@The_YukkiYou'd have to stuff your stomach with way too many carrots.

[@kaykutcher2103]

​@@rarescevei8268 Read about a jogger who died from drinking too much carrot juice pre workout. So yeah, moderation.

[@blank7871]

@@The_Yukki Yeah, cause I will surely get ill by eating the same amount of carrots than the amount I need to eat chocolate to get ill, I get the logic, but it's just so overextended, you can't have a diet eating only chocolate and 4 slices of spinach, but you technically are able to have a diet full of carrots and spinach.

[@The_Yukki]

​@@blank7871 You wouldn't be able to survive long term on a diet of either, but between those two yea 2'nd one is healthier starvation.

[@HikoNoMori]

As a fat kid, it IS ok to be fat, but it ISNT ok to STAY fat.

[@Lolamy]

there's a thing called baby fat for a reason.... there's also a reason why it's specifically called BABY fat.

[@kitikari1213]

asking out of curiosity, why not? In my opinion, someone else's body should be none of your business

[@goowoo69420]

​@@kitikari1213 unless you have a medical condition or something, it's not okay. Is it okay to have some fat? Yeah! But is it okay to be fat where your health is poor and stuff? No! And you should especially not be obese. You're just shortening your life span.

[@HikoNoMori]

@@kitikari1213 this is true, it’s our business. So stop spreading negative “fat positivity”, if people feel bad about how they look let them change themselves for the better instead of staying fat

[@k9tirion927]

@@kitikari1213 depends on the country but in universal healthcare (so actually civilized) countries being fat charges everyone through the system. It's on the same level as drug addicts which includes smokers/alcoholics.

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Man, everybody seems to get on a ego trip once they gain popularity lol. A smart person learns from their own mistakes, but a smarter person learns from other peoples mistakes.

[@infjmale91]

"That's why you send the pawns in first" - Magneto (X Men 3)

[@RetR0-SAS]

Fax

[@Somansh-of6sm]

Factuall information 🤓🤓

[@him1465]

The one youtuber that i think truly handles this well is Papa Meat, he actively chose to make fun of people in a light hearted way, people that literally tried to threaten his life.

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

Yeah. A lot of her videos sound like PR stunts or something. I have no doubt she was trying to use her SA and abuse story to gain brownie points or something. You're only supposed to tell these kinds of stories to spread awareness, not gain sympathy from them.

[@dirtycas]

She is diabetic.... and she was talking about having a Healthy relationship with food in GENERAL.

[@mhmtakeyatime9000]

Yeah, and diabetics shouldn't eat sugary shit.

[@tinajeffer]

@@mhmtakeyatime9000 my dad has type two I think and it depends on what type you have, like if his sugar is low he has to eat ''sugary shit''. but what im trying to say is don't say stuff like u know it unless you know it😑

[@lilnoodles4424]

@@mhmtakeyatime9000imagine being this dumb and wrong AND PROUD OF IT!?! Lmao

[@imnonexistant]

@@mhmtakeyatime9000 yes they fucking should, thats how they maintain their blood sugar. diabetes doesent mean you die from eating sugar headass.

[@pcn545]

Yah everyone who covers this leaves out the majority of her argument and just stitches clips from the video together to make her look bad

[@lollordfrozen]

A little correction, muscles actually weigh more than bodyfat. So if your strength increases, but your overall weight stays the same, then you're actually losing more fat than you're gaining in muscles. So she wasnt eating at her maintenance calories, she actually was losing body fat during that time. Which makes it even more ridiculous that she saw that and just gave up anyways after 2 months.

[@immikeurnot]

It sounds like her personal trainer was incompetent.

[@guillermoyac]

​@@immikeurnotShe algo got her info from a Blog of a Morbid obese nutritionist 😭

[@lenseclipse]

Actually, no, this is false and people really need to stop saying this. A pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat. Muscle is more DENSE than fat, which isn't the same thing.

[@theonetvr]

She gave up at like 5 months but your correct Aldo ty for the information dude

[@lollordfrozen]

@@lenseclipse Actually 🤓, no, this is false and people really need to stop saying this. A pound of muscles 💪 and a pound of fat 🍟🍔🍕 have the same MASS not weight. They can weigh different amounts if you measure one on earth and the other on the moon. WEIGHT♎ is the force applied to an object based on gravitational pull and mass of the object.

[@aurora9688]

I used to be a bigger kid, once i understood what to do im doing awesome, hell im muscular now and in better shape, fat acceptance is stupid. Its okay to be chubby, its not okay to be unhealthy and fat, and its also not okay to make lil jits suffer more with self image and tell them to do nothing. This is like telling a bullied girl "he hit you because he likes you" terrible.

[@BlueyHeelerHere543]

I’m so glad you’re doing better. I wanna grow a little more chubbier myself, but I know that I can’t be unhealthy and obese. I of course watch my eating, and I don’t wanna be super fat. It is incredibly stupid that Illy basically said “eat whatever you want” because that’s not what you’re supposed to do at all. And the “he hit you because he likes you” thing was told by my parents when I was 6. This boy was picking on me and I told my parents about it, and he just made excuses like “oh he just likes you

[@Marlin123]

@@BlueyHeelerHere543 at this point i won't be surprised if your parents justified beating you by saying "we're doing this because we love you"

[@user_kH9bw3ns1]

Health is tied to happiness, so people "putting anything in their bodies," are going to be putting things in their body thay will make them unhappy. I imagine they try to ignore their other behaviors as well.

[@AdvancedGamer-]

@@BlueyHeelerHere543are you like skinny

[@Tsarbben]

@@AdvancedGamer- some people are too skinny for good, I'm very underweight and can't gain anymore no matter how much I eat and jog. Brrrrr am I cold, even in spring lmao

[@CertifiedNEETClassic]

She had a personal trainer and a doctor on this, and neither of them told her that muscle has weight? 😵‍💫

[@kainaris]

That's the most mindblowing part of all of this, imo...

[@vcdgamer]

I'm the most fit person in my family, my older sister is fatter. Odd enough, we are roughly in the same weight group. She has more flesh and fat, while I have more muscle.😅 The day we both stood on the scale was the day I realized that muscle = weight.

[@MikeBarbarossa]

The "gain muscle and lost fat, so weigh the same " is a myth. An aggresive, successful fat loss program can lose 20 lbs of fat a month An aggresive, successful muscle gain program can only gain1 lb of muscle a month for females

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

They scammed her and made her act like a fool 😂

[@Dice-Z]

Wait until she learns that water has weight too.

[@robblequoffle8456]

I think the problem with the whole "body positivity" movement is that what they say is usually incomplete. I do think that people should be more loving of their bodies, but I think that problems arise when it's affecting their overall health. You can probably be healthy if you're overweight, but only to a certain extent. If you're so big that you can't even walk, or chairs can't even support your weight, or you have trouble breathing, or you can't find *any* clothes that fit, that is definitely not a healthy way to live. Same applies to being underweight, although there's a smaller margin for that. But still, if you're so thin that you can barely move, have little to no energy, and your bones are practically visible, that is also not a healthy way to be.

[@screwyoutube-ed9jx]

the thing is body positivity was never supposed to be about fat people is was for amputees and people with physical scars and deformaties, the fatties just pulled it onto their plate like everything else they can reach

[@oddball9982]

​@@screwyoutube-ed9jxthis is so wrong it's funny. Body positivity is for everyone.

[@screwyoutube-ed9jx]

@@oddball9982 found the fatty that won't put down the fork but thinks it deserves praise for destroying its own body

[@poppedicat1270]

as a fat person- i ate what i wanted, gained 40kg and now i cant do the sh!t i love anymore. dont eat what you want, love yourself and your body and treat you and your body well. its hard to go back. there a tons of sport types, one is the one for you, that you will love. tomorrow i am finally seeing a "food" doctor who will teach me what my body needs. i dont want to be thin, i want to be healthy and my overweight isnt it. also - sporty isnt healthy. i was sporty when i was 80kg, but still felt the weight. our bodys are different, yes. but overweight is overweight, you feel it. your body feels it.

[@mahismelodies3685]

Good job bro❤

[@mlkow5]

I hope it goes well and you’ll feel healthier and happier soon :]

[@sleepycady]

I hope the appointment went well! much love

[@angwydud]

btw google insulin managment for body loss its much better and faster than calorie intake

[@greenapple0811]

You can do it I believe in you!

[@BurnerAccount86753]

My gf tried for an entire year to lose weight only to barely lose anything and it wasn't solved until we found out her thyroid was underactive. The problem with these people is some might actually have something medically wrong with them but they'd never figure it out because they will just throw their hands up and give into being fat without trying everything.

[@casperryborg4869]

Bro, stop fucking using your personal stories. DATA SPEAKS FOR ITSELF!

[@galaxyglow5187]

I'm so sorry to hear about your gf. Is she doing better now?

[@kajiji8025]

Yeah exactly. Hypothyroidism is also surprisingly common

[@galaxyglow5187]

@@kajiji8025 In the video from Illy herself, she mentioned that they checked her thyroid and they didn't find anything wrong so she says.

[@choufreakyc]

Hormones play a big role in weight. I have PCOS and it makes it incredibly difficult to lose weight because my hormones are out of whack. So while calories in, calories out is true from a physics standpoint, other factors play into how we lose/gain weight that a lot of people don't take into consideration. It's frustrating.

[@tehy123]

Illymation's video deadass tries to explain that chocolate is not evil. No shit, everyone likes chocolate, just don't eat too much all the time or you will die early 💀

[@PerfectCell937]

Even then you can eat as much chocolate as you want as long as it stays in the base line 2000 calories and you work off those calories and still be ripped it’s all about counting calories but obviously doing that will lead to many health concerns

[@Texansfan59]

​@@PerfectCell937sticking to a 2k cal diet ur better off saving those calories for somthing more filling its hard enough as it is.

[@PerfectCell937]

@@Texansfan59 most definitely

[@StaceyLuvsSnom]

Dark chocolate is not unhealthy, it is in fact pretty healthy

[@StaceyLuvsSnom]

@@Texansfan59 I feel you lol, people say 75% is the best but it was overwhelmingly bitter😭

[@murphycrkr381]

Illy looks perfectly fine, I think that video just takes it way too far. Saying to a woman you don't know that she's shit at dressing up and telling her to wear makeup is absolutely disgusting

[@jazzarenice]

He can say whatever he wants and he was definitely harsh. But, he did give valid criticism regarding her appearance and offered genuine help. She objectively was not utilizing her good features and he pointed that out. He definitely went about harsher than he needed to, though.

[@murphycrkr381]

@@jazzarenice Yeah, it it indeed good advice but saying that to a stranger that didn't ask for any criticism is soooo fucked

[@theAstarrr]

@@murphycrkr381ok but the rest of those videos are facts and logic about health, and criticism of Ilys takedown request

[@littleswansplaygrownd6817]

@@murphycrkr381 Illy: "ugh I'm so ugly and I don't like how I look" TYBS: *gives advice to look better* Illy: ugh how dare you give me advice on how to look better! deplatform him!

[@renemartinez3451]

@@murphycrkr381What kind of idiot expects to post to millions of followers and except to not get criticism? SHE was the one who made a viral post that sympathy farmed over her negative feelings about her own appearance. But when TBYS makes a post saying that she was too hard on herself and there’s easy solutions to the problems she’s feeling, now he’s the bad guy? Illy posted about her problems and TBYS offered healthy solutions; he didn’t “harshly criticize” her appearance; he harshly criticized her misinformation, which is totally fair

[@Purpledevilluvspurple]

Actually if your chubby I understand I’m not really in the skinny side either you really shouldn’t be worried about how you look and care about how others think, but if your fat to the point where it’s unhealthy and is impacting your daily life then you shou I always try to find ways to fix it instead of finding excuses or just giving up, who agrees? Edit omg tysm for 611 likes didn’t expect this to blow up so quickly😃😁

[@Cool_Kid95]

I feel you, I agree

[@Purpledevilluvspurple]

@@Cool_Kid95 thanks👌

[@goatfood1504]

No one should feel bad about all the time it’s not productive, but sticking your head in the sand about being healthy is not a good idea either. It’s a careful balance

[@-lancepie-1002]

i can only see this as a short term idea but, in the long term why would you want to still have this fat on your body?

[@LifeIsFadingAway]

@@-lancepie-1002 Hm, I guess then it is up to the person at that point. It's unwise to let yourself go physically and mentally, but also unwise to be formed by other people's opinions. I guess if the person is genuinely happy about their own current state then that's that.

[@mattkurek9259]

Doctors are not nutritionists, doctors can study in nutrition but nutrition is its own actual category of science and medicine.

[@Kawaiikitten0211]

Yup, registered dieticians are a whole separate health care discipline who are required to go to school for 4 years to get their degree. Again though, that’s REGISTERED dieticians, there are people who can label themselves as “nutritionists” but it’s BS because registered dietician is a protected title.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

@@Kawaiikitten0211 As a self-proclaimed nutritionist, the carnivore diet is the best diet for humans, but it would require a Thanos moment or the entire world reverting back to an Amish lifestyle to be sustainable, so some people need to eat the leaves and fried carbs for this whole "society" thing to continue.

[@zhanucong4614]

i dont care who you think you are but everyone has basic knowledge that quality of food is important for healthy body, and that weight is mostly detriment by daily calorie intake and that working out just speeds it up

[@DolliDaily]

She said she went to a dietician following strict rules so 🤷‍♀️

[@megatmations.]

This was fucking painful. Seeing a wholesome-ass KZbinr doing this shit is just fucking brutal to me man. Why? Like just why? Why do people do this? I just want some youtuber to talk about their life issues while doing homework. 😭😭😭

[@gohraru]

fr

[@heidihlm4707]

Most wholesome youtuber isn't good people, on contrary, i met many people who like messed up stuff like gore, incest, dark stuff being a genuine good people irl

[@megatmations.]

@@heidihlm4707 true.

[@decas5505]

​@@heidihlm4707This is just facts Whoever tries to approach people as an overly friendly and good person is an immediate red flag

[@AA-ed6ek]

@@decas5505 Agreed.

[@bloodyrosary]

I'm obese II. I'm 89 kg and I'm 14 (161 cm) and let me tell you. I almost got liver failure because I ate what I wanted. I may have Binge eating disorder and its ruining my life. I'm dieting now (eating healthy food and exercising). I'm getting better :3! If you're trying to lose weight. It's alright if it's slow. Losing weight is very hard. Don't stress yourself out. Have cheat days if you like a certain type of food. Take care sweeties :3

[@cloverstar-qb5de]

Listen, you helping yourself is amazing 😀💗 Don't give up, okay !!!!!!! 😄

[@Melonzz-y1r]

Im routing for U 🫶

[@floppa_silly_clips]

I wish you the best, Obese the second

[@viewingstorm8930]

I believe in you bro don’t give up👍❤️

[@Scarapanna]

Good luck on your journey!!!

[@ninjaartist1235]

"Food is just food" Vodka and water are both clear liquids, so they must be the same!

[@magmaboisstuff4270]

Except one hydrates you and the other gets you drunk! W O W THEY ARE DEFINITELY THE SAME!!!1

[@commoncommentatingcommento8683]

Water is 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen atoms together to make a molecule. Hydrogen peroxide is 2 hydrogen and 2 oxygen atoms together as a molecule. They are made with the same material they are both obviously safe to drink! -Sarcasm-

[@YeahitsDuvi]

So celery and uranium rods are the same then

[@noahanders7605]

"uh actually vodka and water are drinks, not foods" ☝️🤓

[@sillyregrevetatorfan1111]

So bombs and pop rocks are the same😊

[@78jujubs]

The carrot comment is kinda hilarious because it's an easy replacement for junk food. The reason junk food was so addictive to me is because it required no preparation, I could just open a bag of chips and go-to town. Baby carrots are a good replacement for that because they require the same amount of preparation as a bag of chips, and they actually make you feel full. Switching to fruits is 100% healthier than chocolate. (which, btw, is mostly edible wax)

[@strecxiu2134]

carrots are a good snack ngl

[@78jujubs]

@@strecxiu2134 they slap

[@elladala3593]

my childhood snack was shredded carrot mixed with shredded apple with sugar. i had kidney issues and severe allergies so my diet at the time was very limiting. so my grandma would make this summer snack for me)) apples and carrots were grown by her))

[@manboy4720]

@@strecxiu2134 they're pretty good, but i like them with a nice dip, like hummus.

[@ceinwenchandler4716]

@@manboy4720 Mmm... good idea. I should try that.

[@oghene2778]

"there's no inherent bad food" yep, and beer is just as healthy as water. edit: don't mean to be that guy but this unironically the most amount of likes i've gotten on a comment. which i guess is suprising

[@mr.commonsense]

if you remove the yeast and other stuff, youre right

[@LeeroyPorkins]

America runs on Dunkin

[@starplatinum5311]

There been many case of people in my country who accidently kill their whole family because they mix the wrong food together and here we have this four eyes hippo who said thing like this.

[@nBUMBA]

Its true but she completely missed the point. Food isnt inherently bad. Excessive calorie consumption is. You can eat chocolate instead of carrots and be healthy but if you use that logic to justify 20 chocolate bars in a day you’re just gonna get fat

[@Turbi440]

@@mr.commonsenseYou pretty much get water at that point 😂😂😂

[@ElijahFeitosa]

Looking back, I hate how everyone jumped on the hate bang wagon without doing any research whatsoever. I hope people learn their lesson from this.

[@oscara8454]

They never do.

[@digi34]

No one that frequents these types of channels have watched her original video. They're just hopping on the bandwagon. Then the complaining about being deplatformed when their audience harassed her to the point she was doxed and had to move.

[@jeongbun2386]

Bro this is a drama channel that works on being a conservative grifter, not one of these people care, they just want to feel better abt themselves by shitting on others.

[@-Strawberry12-]

No one ever does, welcome to the Internet.

[@ephemeraIl]

Literally all they had to do was just watch the video in full instead of being gullible and blindly hating someone just because everyone else is. These sheeple!!

[@dayweed3024]

"chocolate is not an inherently bad food" while showing a diabetic kid about to take a sugar test or whatever they are called

[@creeperizak8971]

Yep, it looks like somebody doesn't know about type 2 diabetes...

[@MrSophire]

Dark chocolate can be healthy and carrots has a lot of sugars, both could be bad for a diabetic. I am not body positivity, I just tried different diets, keto works for me and Suger free dark chocolate had get energy boosts and anti oxidants.

[@IttyBittyDeer]

Maybe referring to t1? Where a sugar crash is a serious risk? chocolate all things considered (and processed sugars) are a great way to re-spike your sugar to normal levels! T2, not sure I think in general that advises you to reduce sugar intake.

[@gizzo-f5t]

@@MrSophirethat’s true but if you were to eat both in excess, one’s gonna be detrimentally worse for you and your health.

[@antikommunistischaktion]

No food is inherently bad. You can eat chocolate and still lose weight as long as you're burning more calories than you're taking in. In fact dark chocolate is a good way to stave off cravings while on a keto diet since it's fairly low in carbs.

[@valeriucb6497]

This entire drama was just blown way out of proportion for no reason...someone recently told me I had a very poor fasion sense and was bad at mixing clothing and colours in general , and I had my "awww" moment of sadness but asked them to follow it up with some advice and maybe pick up something together one day which they were more than happy to help with. Even if the line between criticism and hate is blurred in some cases , you can still learn from hate , be the bigger person...

[@xtremeyoylecake]

Real I feel like both sides are blowing it out of proportion

[@djaxeman2424]

TBYS specifically didn't want to continue this. He was forced to do so. He even tried to apologise to Ily(which he shouldn't because he was right),just so the beef could get squashed.​@@xtremeyoylecake

[@Fusible_1]

​@@xtremeyoylecakeWdym, she literally forced his hand by trying to flag his channel. He was just going to let the controversy fade away until she started to seriously threaten his channel.

[@AlMeZero]

"Be the bigger person" with what this situation is about, excellent choice of words.

[@frozenfresh6406]

@@xtremeyoylecakeNah bad take, TBYS making 2 response videos after getting massed flagged by someone with 2+ million subs is completely reasonable and in proportion.

[@OfficialSusanWojcicki]

-Makes video glorifying being unhealthy -Listens to white knight who pushes false claims of TBYS being an incel -Doesn't even watch video and takes her friend's word as gospel -Sneakily tells her fans on Tumblr to mass flag channel -Contacts KZbin directly to screw this guy over -Tells fans not to watch video so they cannot form their own opinions -Claims she doesn't want him to face hate while doing this in attempt to look virtuous -Pauses comments so no one can call her out on her scummy behavior Imagine being so insecure.

[@MrsStormtrooper]

Her entire career is built off of being insecure

[@manboy4720]

i really can't imagine, so illymation will demonstrate it for us.

[@LiSkyFox]

It’s clear you didn’t even watch her video LMFAO

[@johnysimps1191]

The internet is a crazy place. Look at this clown defending her in the comments 😂

[@insanecheapo195]

​@@LiSkyFox saw the important bits

[@ragsrare3771]

They say women like to gossip but seeing these type of channels, it prove that men like to gossip more, not fan of either side, but I found this new fact funny.

[@WaffleYabbler]

@PinkRose_Queennot sure what you’re talking about with men gossiping more, cause honestly, just no 💀 But I agree with the point this video is so stupid ☠️

[@WaffleYabbler]

Not sure men gossip more and don’t know where you got that from, but yeah this video is awful ☠️

[@drooooop]

@@WaffleYabblerThey absolutely do

[@WaffleYabbler]

@@drooooop they don’t tho 😭 Bro women are way more gossipy than men U can’t use one KZbin video from a rando online for your information 💀

[@Winnie589]

Yall calm down everyone gossips

[@hackzicuackzicu1421]

Its so sad to see people saying that being fat is healthy the ammount of people who have died before 40 is sad. Its not healthy and its lazy. Some people have genetic diseases that forces them to be fat and want to be skinny. I have a friend who literally cannot lose weight she has tried everything, i exercised with her every day she always skipped meals and the only thing she did eat otherwise was salads. She eventually got it diagnosed but still her parents always shame her for being at her current weight and there is nothing she can do. These people are lucky they have a choice and still decide to take all the health problems they can get...

[@jhsdfhjvbrhdvlhsza5232]

I agree that yes in most cases the individual is just lazy. However when people go out of their way to assume or push judgment onto others not knowing their financial situation or personal circumstances it can be very immature and hurtful. After all there are many components towards weight loss and weight gain. And as you did mention some physically cannot lose weight to have diseases however most people forgot about that and instead judge every overweight individual. Just since someone is fat by definition doesn’t make them lazy or unhealthy. It depends on the individuals life choices that you may or may not know

[@ee-ef8qr]

Illymation never said it was good to be fat she was just calling out the shit that leads to people having body dysmorphia .

[@hackzicuackzicu1421]

@jhsdfhjvbrhdvlhsza5232 my point is that most people have an option to be skinny and don't take it and later regret it. I understand that some people can't due to the unfortunate culinary state of some countries and how processed everything is. Its hard for some people to afford healthier foods. Normally when someone is fat it has many negative health consequences and its sad to see a mob of people saying that's its ok and say its fat phobic to lose weight pushing people to stay fat and not change. The fat acceptance movement has done more harm than good so far. We have seen many fatfluencers die before 40 yet still people push it so much. I know people who take medication and are fat because of it it doesn't mean they are lazy its out of their control. It's lazy when people push a fat acceptance agenda just to not change to keep eating unhealthy amounts of food and saying its fatphobic to ask them to change.

[@hackzicuackzicu1421]

@ee-ef8qr the video can be taken in many ways and I was morely commenting on what pegasus was saying about the fat phobic movement rather than illymation. I thought it would be nice to add insight and give my take on the fat acceptance movement. Just because illymations point was different does not make my point any less valid.

[@ee-ef8qr]

@@hackzicuackzicu1421 Sorry I miss read your point. I thought you implied was one of those "people saying that being fat is unhealthy".

[@maxnum1sgameclub263]

Fact: dont do muscle training if you want to lose weight! Muscle tissue weight more fat tissue, so you are actaully gaining weight but in a more healthy way.

[@CommenjouerFr-gplus]

Ironic because I'm doing strength training and it does increase the muscle mass (not like Hypertrophy)

[@Nando75549]

What about cardio?

[@Butwhythough881]

@@Nando75549Cardio is honestly a go to if you want to lose weight, that and cutting out all forms of junk food since typically it’s 80% eating and 20% exercise.

[@keeysOST]

Makes sense why I don't gain muscle. I don't eat that much.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Eh, this only matters if you're trying to stick to a weight class in sports. Otherwise there isn't a downside to putting on lean muscle. It's unhealthy to fixate on the number because the number is just one aspect of health.

[@CalsGirl97]

TBYS gives her legit constructive advice and instead of even hearing what it was first, she sends a hate mob. I hope she grows up and actually starts to value herself someday because she seems absolutely miserable.

[@jotarotuga7162]

I went on reddit and everyone there hates TBYS, everyone was just saying that he hates women, he's conservative, everyone uses the same arguments. The part of the "hating women" comes from a video he made that, he said that "women with piercings are evil", or that he says that Feminism is bad, but, you know, Reddit is Reddit, just a bunch of People who make one argument based on one person's opinion and use it for everything about a certain topic. (If you found any gramatical errors, please say it, Im trying to write better in English😅)

[@twotailedfox3349]

​@@jotarotuga7162where on reddit did you go? i'm pretty sure it really depends on what side of the site you're on lmao

[@Justatoadyall]

​@@jotarotuga7162 my brother, everyone on every platform has their negatives hell KZbin comment section are full of conservatives that hate women but are too scared to admit it, not saying you I'm just sayin' Bashing reddit is basically just a pot talking to a kettle

[@KerReeeee]

​@@JustatoadyallCope harder.

[@Justatoadyall]

@@KerReeeee I stopped after the 253rd time it's been said Y'all need to get creative

[@Tobithepurpleducc]

Do y’all not understand body dysmorphia? It doesn’t matter how much you weigh, you won’t see yourself how you really look. Food really is just food, but you just have to know how to moderate your food intake.

[@bryana1041]

What exactly do you mean by "food is just food"? Do you mean morally it's the same? There is a BIG difference between eating a carrot and chocolate bar and the physiological effects on your body.

[@Tobithepurpleducc]

@@bryana1041 I’m saying there’s no inherently “bad” foods. Some might be unhealthy, but that doesn’t mean they’re bad.

[@bryana1041]

@@Tobithepurpleducc unhealthy means bad for your body. Literally.

[@Tobithepurpleducc]

@@bryana1041 yes, ik. Just bc a food is unhealthy doesn’t mean it’s bad. It can be bad if you don’t moderate it, but it’s not inherently bad

[@soup.decision]

@@TobithepurpleduccYou’re literally restating the same thing . Unhealthy -> Bad for you Simple.

[@Ran_Do]

‘Food is food’ has the credibility of ‘age is just a number’. There is no way some processed shotshow of a burger from McDonald, that is formulated to create addicts, can even compare to a nice home-made meal. Especially when a home-meals often include low-calorie, non-deep fried, micronutrient rich vegetables, and also leaner sources of protein.

[@kelf114]

If you eat it, it's food. And there's an expiration date on everything. Even us.

[@Literallyryangosling777]

Ok i think the comparation is a way to out of proportions, because the first one comes from ignorance but the second one don't (not defending anyone)

[@pemanilnoob]

I don’t think you can compare those 2 I mean you can, but I feel like one is definitely more problematic than the other

[@razztastic]

you need to rethink that comparison, because that makes you look suspect as shit lmfao

[@brett8259]

Except food IS just food and sometimes even "bad" food is good. If you can't eat a healthy, homemade meal for whatever reason (and there are many reasons someone may not be able to), eating a processed burger from McDonalds will still sustain your body. It's better to eat something "bad" for you than to starve yourself. It's okay to eat unhealthy foods in moderation, there are even some benefits to it. Food doesn't just impact our physical bodies, but also our minds. A person who eats only "good" food may be physically more healthy, but if they're constantly obsessing over it and denying themselves anything because they're obsessed with it being a "bad" food, they are not going to be mentally healthy. "Bad" food as a concept is misused a lot, a ton of the foods described this way aren't "bad." They're just not serving the specific purpose the person has in mind.

[@kopywritedartz]

Homie, you talking about that food thing that "it's different for everyone" THANK. YOU. I personally have ehlers danlos and need to eat a lot of salty SALTY foods and drink stuff like Gatorade constantly and a good bit of people call me unhealthy and say that I don't actually need it when it's my body that needs it to function. Thanks for bringing light to the topic :)

[@snowwonder9814]

Hey! Fellow hEds person here! Just devoured some triscuits for salt and a banana for potassium! Had to replenish my salt after my couple mile evening walk and a long day at work. Btw, I don’t if you’ve ever tried b1 supplements but they help so, so much with hEds/POTs symptoms. I get faint way less with them!

[@AceBrando]

Technically speaking, pure chocolate is healthy. However, all the additives to make it taste edible make it unhealthy.

[@MrSophire]

I like dark chocolate😊, I was on keto so I ate some Suger free dark chocolate. The higher percent the more keto it was. It was even safe for diabetics.

[@CarbonFiberToiletPaper]

​@@MrSophire Fellow dark chocolate gang member 👑👑👑

[@AceBrando]

@@MrSophire My Man 🤝

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

dark chocolate with some raw almonds, top tier

[@NateS917]

Yeah cool but shes obviously talking about chocolate you buy at the store not what you find in nature. So theres literally no reason for your comment to exist

[@ammyterasu2318]

The thing about fat acceptance is that it stops being okay when you're seriously unhealthy. At least that's what I think. If you're getting enough exercise and your body works the way its intended, as in you have good lungs, a good heart, then weight loss shouldn't be a priority i think? I'm not saying "oh being fat is okay you should all be fat!" But rather, don't put your body at risk but also don't feel like you have to be incredibly slim. though do feel free to roast me in the comments

[@Suitedbee]

I think longass if your not obese its ok

[@Mapper-ov6zh]

fat acceptance is bad always. It discourages overweight/obese people to stop their addiction. Let’s not lie to ourselves please

[@Sophiea4]

Are you saying that its okay to be fat as long as it doesn't cause you health problems? (this isn't me trying to start a fight or anything like that just genuine curiosity lol

[@Mapper-ov6zh]

being fat isn't good at all, what are you talking about

[@Craglicious]

Tbh, most of the acceptance movement is about making people who are chubby or "husky" realize that sometimes your body just be like that it's not about "eat whatever you want as much as you want whenever you want" as that is a horribly unhealthy and potentially dangerous thing to encourage

[@BigBrainlet]

I’ve lost around 200lb by myself without the need of doctors or trainers. I guarantee the people who were “helping” Illy were 100% incompetent.

[@JuppeD]

yeah like a lot of the time you can just do some basic working out couple times a week and eat less and you will be losing weight.

[@ultimategameredits]

Good for you! ^^

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

this comment is not insulting illymations so shut up and take my thumbs up emoji 👍

[@OldTimeyDragon]

I'm sorry, but she's not even fat. Maybe she's 'overweight', but she's not the type of fat that's at a dangerously high level. But her video is going to have a bad influence on people who desperately need to lose weight, and that's the problem.

[@orionfell]

shes like 140 pounds telling 250ers that its fine lol

[@Toaster-draws]

@@orionfell yeah, that's werid actually.

[@OldTimeyDragon]

@@orionfell exactly.

[@dandansoysauce8762]

Yeah, I watched TBYS's whole video as a fan. And when criticizing her appearance, the first thing he does is complement what's actually working for her. And he is right in that she's not unattractive at all. She has full control of changing her appearance ie clothes, hair, makeup, and most importantly, posture. Her appearance would dramatically improve even without the weight loss

[@sierraa.bryant9322]

@@orionfell TRUE

[@RandomGirl-l6s]

As a morbidly obese person I gotta say that yes, reality hurts. I remember my mum at some point when I was younger taking me in the kitchen and telling me if I need a psychiatrist before seeing a dietitian. That broke my heart. I just wondered if that was how she saw me what would my friends think? Did they really love me or was it all pity? I was thinking of dieting at some point, even attempted it during junior high. It didn’t last long before my hunger took over me. But I realised I had to come to terms with the fact that I am MORBIDLY obese. Not chubby, not fat, not just obese. It hurt. Sometimes scary thoughts would fill my mind. The amount of times I tried and gave up two days later made me feel unmotivated and more depressed. It took long before actually taking action because admitting something you did wrong is hard. I tried to tell myself that I am not healthy but it is ok since I want to change which is not easy. The quicker you come to terms with that the better. Take your time. Surround yourself with stuff you know will motivate you. Make a program for what you want to eat. And most importantly remember you are a fighter who fights for their own life. I fight alongside you. A lot of people are trying to fight and are fighting alongside you. Do it because you want to and don’t let people get you by saying you are ugly or that it is healthy to be obese It is never too late

[@ancwhor]

love 2024. everyone is just ending their career 😂😂

[@gohraru]

omg fr.

[@DaACTUALLYREALReddie]

Call me the nerd emoji but *career

[@flarestriker2005]

Can you even imagine what 2025 is gonna be like?

[@ThePixelated_kris]

*careers 🤓

[@chris-dy1dc]

Matpat retired, Verbalase went broke, Now Illymation destroys herself.

[@4444here]

Back in 2022, I started a medication to help with some mental health problems that had worsened over time. The medication caused me to gain weight, with my already over-eating habits. I gained excessive weight all the way to May 2023. My mom and I both were very underweight naturally, and soon enough when I got medicated, I hadn’t fit my size medium clothes, and I got to a 3XL. It wasn’t just the meds, I have to take credit where it’s due, I’ve never been an active person, I don’t exercise and overeat. I just had a fast metabolism I got through my genes. Gaining weight caused many health problems including back pain, I ran out of breath easily, it was hard to stand up when sitting on the ground, neck pain, and etc. I’ve been trying to loose weight since May 2023, and I’ve made excellent progress! I started eating smaller portions, drinking more water instead of soda, and I exercise regularly through dance for 30-45 minutes a day. Being overweight can cause many problems physically, back pain, joint pain, and fatigue was the main problems for me personally. This may not be the case for everyone who is overweight, but I’m sure I’m not the only person whose weight has caused physical discomfort and has needed to lose weight because of it. I’m still overweight but I’ve cut my weight down in half since May 2023, losing weight is difficult but there’s no way that being as overweight as I was with the lifestyle I had, was in any way healthy

[@gircakes2]

Did you ever try switching medications?

[@AverageWhiteSuburbaniteSlob]

Dude, that's amazing! Keep it up!

[@fruffers]

What med were you on? Fluoxetine is a SSRI that is meant to be weight neutral or make you lose weight if it was an SSRI and you still having mental health problems.

[@bjhhb3143]

The same thing happened to me, though not to that extent. I was underweight effortlessly my entire life, got on a medication for my mental health and gained 30 pounds in a few months. Im working on getting active and eating better. I already went from XS to M and more than liking my body again, I want to be active and healthy. I don’t want to be as underweight as I was, as back then I was weak and frail, but I want to be active and healthy and be able to look and feel good. It’s way harder to lose weight than to gain it but it’s worth it.

[@mewlover2482]

Not sure if anyone saw...but someone had been pissed ehough at her to dox her. Was watching a stream last night, and several people spammed this dudes twitch and youtube with her dox. Not good that shes trying to get someones channel down, but whoever is spamming her info is also horrid. It's getting bad

[@lapislovesgaming8739]

Yea i dont think that's deserved at all

[@colncold]

she definitely didn't deserve that

[@mewlover2482]

@@colncold not at all.

[@JamesP7]

It was the Omni stream. That’s pretty much all of what the comment section of his video was saying.

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

she isn't deplatforming, but the death threats and doxxing does suck

[@karinaramos156]

When he said “who the heck uses tumblr?” 😂😂😂 Me: uhm… artists.😂😂

[@rabbit0.023]

Me and my forty followers chilling

[@PxmpkinP1e]

@@rabbit0.023bot

[@Etrenic_PARODIES]

she said calories dont mater and got called out and what makes it worse is she is using 2 manipulation tactics(that i am aware of) to make tbys look like the bad guy she tried to deplatform him without watching the whole video carefully rejected the facts tbys was pointing out and her whole reason is he hurt my feelings and i bet she will try to deplatform pegasus because of this

[@CoqueiroLendario]

As much as illymation is responsible for her actions and not even watching the video, her reaction was expected from someone so insecure after Dillan put the things the way he did, we can see he manipulated and chose the words to make the video look like the most vile, evil and horrible direct attack possible, so illy just went "man i am not in the right mindset to watch something like this but i have to do something". What i'm saying is that we should also be looking at Dillan's actions too, not just Illy's.

[@ProBaiter0012]

​@@CoqueiroLendario who is this Dillan I keep hearing about is that tbys real name or something?

[@RetR0-SAS]

@@ProBaiter0012no it’s illymations friend who lied about tbys’s video

[@Saberfighterx]

@@ProBaiter0012dillan is the friend that actually watched the video and after tybs second video talking about the drama dillan escalated the drama by him manipulating illy and starting a rant on twitter

[@Etrenic_PARODIES]

@@CoqueiroLendario not really bro just watch the video with an open mind and we see he was neutral and provided solutions to the problems that he pointed out

[@chaoscreature4353]

ThinkBeforeYouSleep actually apologized for going so hard in the fashion section in the video today. He understands how he may have hurt her and admits he should've been more kind in that section.

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

Where did he say this?

[@chaoscreature4353]

@@TheHumanPerson9753 he made a public community post on his channel

[@TheHumanPerson9753]

@@chaoscreature4353 ok thx

[@unnaturaldodo]

Ngl it supposed to be brushed off as a joke but of course today's people are too soft and sensitive.

[@truthseeker9249]

That was probably for the best. Listening to him talk brought me flashbacks to years of bullying in school. I was the ugly duckling. The "stupid" Autistic ugly duckling at that. So to come down that hard on someone in front of the whole internet is a little below the belt. Even I would never say that stuff in an online video unless I really HATED someone.

[@PandaxAnna]

You should never use weight as a metric for weight loss when you are just slightly overweight. Weighing yourself on the scale is just a way to lose hope and give up, especially if you are gaining muscle. Pay more attention to your appearance and how your clothes fit, and how you feel. Also women have a far harder time losing weight, you can’t just try for 3 months and say “welp I guess this is just my weight.” It took me two whole years to lose 20 pounds, and it’s even harder for me now that I’m down to lose.

[@wimsylogic65]

That's what I do I don't even own a scale. I go by whether I See my bones or if my clothes are getting too tight, Or too loose. Often when things are getting a bit too tight it's due to water weight. or swelling due to hormones.

[@B1_buddy]

Body positivity is ok. Encouraging people to stay fat isn’t ok

[@Pam234]

She isn’t lmfao

[@Spookster8178]

POV: Think before you sleep and Pegasus “With our powers combined-“

[@RubyFelineTM]

The first thing we learn in Nutrition classes is heathy is different from skinny, body types are diferents, some people need more calories than other and lose fat more slower, having a heathy diet its good for EVERYONE, and being a bit chonky can be heathy as long as you diet is food, the problem is using "thats how my body is like" to excuse improper diet, so please check your body type, eat heathy food by the amount your body require and drink a lot of water.

[@RedPaintSpray]

"There is no such thing as bad food." *Nightshade Berries enters the chat.*

[@magmaboisstuff4270]

*Death Cap shrooms joined too*

[@weidie2moro]

*Maggot Cheese enters the party*

[@RedPaintSpray]

*Ergot of Rye entered the voice chat* "We are gonna make one killer of a pizza!"

[@pluto9860]

*deadly webcap joins the chat*

[@Ratface0007]

*A wild Haggis appears!*

[@soceity5818]

good job everyone you've all been reposting the same edited clip believing it the whole time

[@AzureRuby96]

at least Noah Samsen is exposing this

[@RenderingUser]

That so fukin stupid. There is no saving her with or without the cut content. You're actually stupid if you think diatary restrictions should be the only reason to focus on eating healthy. You should ALWAYS focus on eating healthy. Otherwise you're basically telling people to eat whatever they want until they get health problems. Imagine taking such an irrelevant point and using it to discredit an entire video

[@Zeuken]

KZbin drama 2016: Juicy KZbin drama now: 😤😮‍💨

[@samalass466]

2016 era drama was pure insanity and has left some scars on all of us.

[@pro-hz7kx]

Yeah, people getting exposed as sex offenders and stuff, and now just: someone called me ugly!!!

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

e x a c t l y

[@spooder-man6698]

If "food is just food" was true, then my doctor wouldn't be telling me that I should incorporate more fiber into my diet and drink less caffeine

[@brett8259]

I think you're misunderstanding the phrase. At the end of the day, food is just food. The saying doesn't mean all food is the same level of nutritious or healthy or have the same benefits. The point of it is that "bad" food shouldn't be avoided at all costs, that it's okay to eat things that are viewed as "bad", and that even "good" foods can be bad for you if not moderated.

[@h.f6364]

yall are bad faith and it shows. is food *not* food? the point is all food can be 'unhealthy' for you if you eat enough of it. meat is healthy, if you eat too much you shit liquid. vegetables are healthy, if you eat too much you shit bricks. the gag is youre trying to attack her message while entirely misunderstanding it

[@ShurouInu]

the phrase doesnt mean "all food is the same" it means all food will become unhealthy depending on how much and often you eat it. Dieticians even say this, because youre villanizing food instead of acknowledging your diet is the issue. You for example, caffeine isnt bad its your overconsumption of it thats bad

[@JuppeD]

@@brett8259 Yeah that is true. But her point came across to make bad foods sound better. Like if you feel bad while eating chocolate way too much that is good. And you should. The video makes it sound like it shouldnt matter how much chocolate you eat and you shouldnt feel bad about it. Which makes over weight people feel better about them eating too much. Even when she was talking about how its ok to eat unhealthy if you dont do it too much.

[@brett8259]

@@JuppeD No, it absolutely didn't. She was very clear about the point she was making.

[@Chihirolee3]

Haven't seen the think before you sleep video, but as someone who understands health and fitness, it's taken years of learning with many failures as well as successes; health is not a couple month journey or a single short term diet. It's a lifelong and conscious journey. Illymation's video rubbed me completely the wrong way with the amount of commonly accepted misinformation.

[@immikeurnot]

That's pretty much where TBYS is coming from.

[@JamesP7]

Apparently he’s an experienced fitness coach or something, so he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to health/fitness.

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

FUN FACT: she was talking about morals and in moderation, as in "chocolate isn't evil or bad for you in moderation" FUN FACT 2: if you watch illy's video you should know this

[@KirboBoy]

Can somebody please at least take a ninth grade biology class before they give health advice on the Internet

[@autisticwoman665]

True!

[@TheTrueGlaukos]

does it even need to be ninth grade? they cover this kind of health stuff in like, elementary school

[@Duncan_Soldan]

Okay "expert" enlighten us, "Is the social expectation of weight, for women being underweight and men being muscular, healthy? If so, what consequences could this thinking lead to and what is the actually correct weight for a healthy man and woman around the age of twenty." have fun with that and just for your information, be careful what you say about biology on the internet because a guy getting his degree in biology could also read your dumbass comment and ask you to expand on your thought.

[@Crucs.]

Can people please watch Illymation's video before immediately coming to conclusions about what she said

[@TheFunkyFellow]

​@@Crucs.Exactly, Think Before You Sleep cuts off a part of a clip to make her look bad it's gross

[@HavianEla]

As a disabled woman living with chronic pain - I can PROMISE you the majority of doctors (but not all of them) are deeply egotistical and think they know everything when they really, really don’t. That or they play hot potato with you with other physicians

[@weidie2moro]

Mad = bad = sad = mad.

[@Killallenstarries]

@@weidie2moro r u 14 ? Please use your brain

[@Frdrck2.0]

as a

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

who care you're disable

[@Mikey-b1p]

as a disabled man with chron's disease, this person is wrong

[@avgperson6551]

Being fat in your 20s might not produce any immediate consequences, but give it a decade or two and your health will decline quickly; your resistance to health consequences will not last. Her video was just a really bad take. Calories in calories out, yes, but the quality of the calories matter too.

[@anaalicia5029]

I’m quitting smoking and hope I don’t gain weight! I don’t wanna gain anything. But I agree very much; I hated being a chubby teenager and I’ve been slim for years now, I just eat less. The video takedown is ridiculous. She doesn’t seem to be very rational.

[@whathefuckisthishandle]

good luck on your journey!!!!

[@anaalicia5029]

@@whathefuckisthishandle thanks! 🙏

[@Diamonddubbed]

I wish you the best of luck on your journey!

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

good job on quitting smoking, but illy isn't in the wrong here so you don't get my thumbs up emoji

[@randomhandleRAH]

This video aged like milk. This is why I take commentary channels with a grain of salt. The majority are mad gullible.💀

[@tinajeffer]

me too after this I unsubscribe to most of the KZbin I watch in that category

[@mazzaleen6091]

So she didn't try to start a mass flagging campaign against a smaller creator?

[@WalterFoog-fn7hi]

Ah yes, “mass flagging.” Multiple flags don’t do anything more than one flag. Mass flagging is something ThinkBeforeYouSleep made up to make what was done sound worse

[@ihateeveryonefortheyaresophony]

@@mazzaleen6091 so said fans of that channel didn't dox her, force her to move out of her home state, spend over 10 thousand dollars having to leave said state, and bully her for weeks??? i dont even like her that much but jfc

[@mazzaleen6091]

@@ihateeveryonefortheyaresophony Yet the only person to actually try and incite their fanbase to baselessly attack another creator was her, not him. Honestly, it just seems like karma, like how people drove leafy or keemstar out of youtube when they attacked smaller creators and tried to get their fanbase to attack others.

[@Texansfan59]

I blame dillan more he set her up for all this. But also she shoulda just watched the video herself instead of listning to him.

[@problemsolver3254]

i dont think her reputation is Destroyed most people dont seem to care.

[@ed_cmntonly]

​​​@@problemsolver3254 anyone who does these "their reputation is destroyed" videos 50/50 of the time literally nothing happens, just hate for a few days then we return back to the road; for example, Bentellect (I don't like Ben btw)

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

i do also blame dillan, and you aren't just saying "illy bad blah blah blah" so take me thumbs up 👍

[@MomoDearestt]

it took me 2 years to realise why I wasn't losing weight. I ate wayyy more than I moved Q - Q

[@Selrisitai]

Wow, someone call Harvard. We need to get this solution in the public, stat!

[@MomoDearestt]

@@Selrisitai funnnnnyyyyyyy….. > ~ >

[@grthjryrd7552]

@@Selrisitai lamest joke ive seen in a while

[@rotgutted]

also it's about eating the right things

[@Selrisitai]

@@grthjryrd7552 I think she was serious.

[@proudpatriot3491]

I had a buddy come at me with "food is food" and at this time I had just watched TBYS's video on Illymation and how she said food is food so this terrible message is getting passed around.

[@brett8259]

It's not really a terrible message. She's not saying all foods are the same level of healthy or should be consumed in the same amount, she's talking specifically about body dysmorphia and how people are often taught to fear "bad" foods when they shouldn't. It's okay to eat "bad" foods, it can even be good in some cases. (If "bad" food is the one that is most accessible to you, it's good to eat that "bad" food rather than eating nothing at all for instance.)

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

​@@brett8259She literally said that there was no inherent good foods and inherent bad foods. That food was just food. We all know this isn't true, especially for diabetics.

[@brett8259]

@@multi-milliondollarmike5127 Because there is no inherently good or bad food. With diabetes for example, chocolate may be harmful for some people with diabetes while other people with diabetes needs it. Diabetic hypoglycemia requires sugar, for example.

[@multi-milliondollarmike5127]

@@brett8259 I do have to admit that for diabetics, it can be more nuanced. But for food in general, foods with more nutritional value and less saturated fats would be considered 'good foods'. Foods with more saturated fats, preservatives, artificial food coloring, etc. would be considered 'bad foods'. I'm saying that food is not just food, because the content in the food still does matter. Even if consuming in moderation can be considered, it doesn't change the content of what's in the food.

[@brett8259]

@@multi-milliondollarmike5127 She never denied different foods have different nutritional values. The vast majority of people are not saying that. They're saying food itself is just food. There should be no shame involved with choosing a "bad" food. There's benefits to eating "bad" foods. Eating an excess of "good" or "bad" food is unhealthy for you. There's not really a "bad" food, there's food that serves different purposes and for different aspects of the body.

[@ruthbarnes1660]

Food is food but just because you can consume it doesn't mean that it's good for you....

[@philpaul9634]

Bruh she literally said "Unless you have allergies or dietary restrictions to follow" before saying "you should feel free to eat whatever you want". But they clipped it out to make her look bad.

[@D_an_]

Im pressing x to doubt on a lot of her story. She claims throughout the video that she was obese and that she couldnt lose weight, so she gave up. But when you look up pictures of her she is genuinely normal looking, she looks fairly slim compared to what she painted herself as in the video. Which im going to go out on a limb and guess that she was never fat to begin with, and that she probably doesnt know what being actually obese is. So she's sending this harmful message that being obese is ok because in her mind she thinks her bodytype is considered obese when its not. I also doubt that she ever hired a actual nutritionist. Because a real dietician would laugh her out of the room if she said chocolate and carrots have no differences because "food is just food."

[@ee-ef8qr]

That's because she never said she was.

[@D_an_]

@@ee-ef8qr Yeah true, she didnt specifically call herself obese. So I was wrong when using the word obese. But its pretty clear that she implys in the video that she considers herself or that others consider her to be fat/overweight.

[@ee-ef8qr]

@@D_an_ She doesn't now ,she accepted that she isn't. But so many people are missing the point. This video isn't fat acceptance it's about her own story accepting that she isn't fat, and that people shouldn't heavily hyper analyze strangers weight loss journey, because you don't know them.

[@EeveelutionStorm]

Illly is also like... severely mentally ill and it seems her parents absolutely abused her. Like, the amount of shit she drops in her videos (parents dropping her off at a psyche ward without even telling her what was happening? Not explaining to your daughter what a period is? Not taking the PAIN daughter is experiencing seriously and not managing herself) it seems she's just had shit after shit and I wouldn't be shocked if we're seeing an ED forming.

[@NateS917]

​@@ee-ef8qrthat might be her story but her message is that being fat is ok and you can eat anything you want and itll be ok

[@evanhernandez5378]

As a fat dude myself gotta say that there is no perks

[@Suitedbee]

It have 1 perk its easier to hug but it wont worth it for the disadvengacts

[@feritye767]

@@Suitedbee I don't think anyone has a hard time hugging

[@Suitedbee]

@@feritye767 i know form my brother he is a bone and f hurts like a shovel form the head

[@ToffeeTuff]

⁠@@SuitedbeeI agree, a lot of people have complimented my hugs

[@feritye767]

@@EnCounterCultureMedia you make good points but fat acceptance is more about thinking you're healthy when you're not instead of just feeling good about yourself

[@dimosguy]

Oh no, a tumblr user. Guys be careful, Tumblr shaming is very dangerous than Twitter cancellation.😢

[@samflood5631]

Still better than Deviantart.

[@WowIexistnope]

Thanks Pegasus you motivated me to try losing weight again.

[@Ehhhidc]

Hell yea me too! I wanna look like those tall buit skinny dudes (idk how to get tall but i can work on the other ! :D )

[@DizzyMapping]

I’ve been biking everyday for like 2 months but lost no weight lmao idk how I didn’t realize I need to eat less as well thank you Pegasus 🙏

[@LegendWolfA]

Yeah, weight loss is 90% diet and 10% exercise. If you eat less, your weight will start reducing.

[@starplatinum5311]

You don't necessary need to eat less, just eat the right food, for example food like mayonnaise contain a lot more calorie compare to other because it mostly oil and fat so you need to excursive a lot more.

[@keeysOST]

​@@starplatinum5311this, also completely cutting off processed foods and trans fat foods too.

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

dont over eat, keept around or less than 2500 calories a day, and make sure you eat alot of protein, if you can have protein in every meal you will lose weight. you actually burn most of the calories you consume by simply being alive, but the protein and exercise are going to help you burn the fat

[@noviibutnotactive8385]

Muscle weighs more than fat, you're likely loosing fat and gaining muscle. Still, I definitely suggest adjusting your diet to fit your goals. Goodluck!

[@GeorgeSu15]

fat acceptance is just another way for fat people to say "I give up" without uttering those words. to accept that you're fat is to also accept the shame you've become. being healthy doesn't just happen in a few months, it takes years and even then, once you're fit, you have to keep working out to maintain that figure, otherwise FOOP, you're back to square one being fat and lazy. Even if you can't stand, do something that gets your body moving and burning those calories. Being fat is not cancer or a disease, it is an illness (like a cold) that can be easily cured by simple work outs. If you need advice, don't be afraid to ask doctors or health specialists, they are there to put you on track and help keep you healthy.

[@zombiewafle]

I see it mostly from woman, sucks to say it that way. Most fat guys know they're fat and either don't care or actually try.

[@Lolamy]

the problem is the mental health issues that usually come with being fat or cause being fat itself. If it was that simple to lose weight everyone would be nice and skinny. You also need to take into consideration the cost of healthy food. exercise is great and all but "simple workouts" aren't gonna make you drop everything, what you eat is far more impactful. Fat people need therapy, not people yelling at them to "stop being lazy"

[@zombiewafle]

@@LolamyYou just reaffirmed OPs comment. It's a mindset that simply because it's unobtainable, it isn't worth it. Whereas if they saw a mountain, faced it, they may one day conquer it.

[@GeorgeSu15]

@@Lolamy you know you can buy vegetables and fruits and throw them in the ground to grow a garden, right? You don't need seeds, just the root of the food to plant.

[@Lolamy]

@@GeorgeSu15 yay you completely ignored my main and legitimate point and instead focused on the secondary point. Yes you can grow fruits and vegetables, but why would a fat person take the time and effort to consistently water and manage the garden when mcdonalds is right around the corner. Again, being fat isn't just a physical thing, there's a whole brain there that probably isn't functioning well, there's also the issue of society promoting unhealthy eating, you can find a fast food place wherever you look. One of those meals can easily go over 1000 calories and it's consistently shoved in people's faces as an alternative to cooking, again, why take the effort to cook a healthy and fulfilling meal when you can pay a bit to get instant gratification. There's a mind that's damaged and the person is sick yet people are so ready to jump down their throats, call them "lazy" and harrass them for no good reason. Once again, they need therapy, not being looked down on, that's just gonna make it worse.

[@jffry890]

She say's it's okay to be fat but she draws herself as thin. She's obviously ashamed of it. Her words don't match her actions.

[@nowh_8808]

well- im not skinny and in my art style i look like a noodle idc about how a look but my art style doesnt look good with realistic wieght

[@BoldActionSkitty]

@@nowh_8808 Well that's different than being ashamed about yourself, that's just an art style and there isn't anything wrong with that. :)

[@beauwalker9820]

Honestly looking at her IRL images she doesn't look that fat either. She doesn't even have a double chin.

[@korejewelsss]

​@@beauwalker9820To be honest I think I know what's going on. She doesn't see bad about being fat, because she isn't. She doesn't have the struggles because she is not fat. I think she just sees herself as fat because maybe she has a bit of chub on her belly, and some people already consider that fat. My theory is that she looks at herself in the mirror and sadly sees herself as fat, at the end of the day I think it's more psychological from her part than physical and that does make me feel a bit bad for her.

[@Selrisitai]

@@korejewelsss She's definitely fat. 100 years ago she'd be stared at as she walked on the street. We're so unhealthily fat now that someone who is 30 or 40 pounds overweight (which is what she looks) is "normal."

[@anya9368]

😭 after seeing Noah samsons video which was throughly and nicely investigated this is definitely misinformation

[@tinajeffer]

yea let just give him six awards for DOING RESEARCH

[@-ReHaven]

@@tinajefferthe bar is so stupidly low 😭

[@anya9368]

@@tinajeffer FR 🗣️🔥🔥🔥 GIVE HIM MEDALS

[@Bowyn.]

Best video i watched and it led me to comment on this video and the original illymation video hope there doing ok

[@Yourfat247]

💀💀 after seeing TBYS videos which was throughly and nicely investigated, this isn’t ’misinformation’ in the slightest

[@Kuz_Quartz]

Been seeing a nutritionist and 2 other doctors for half a year (more or less) and I can relate to the feeling of wanting to give up after feeling like there's no progress. I have different conditions that make it hard for me to lose weight, and for many years I've been fluctuating between being 15-20 kg over my "ideal weight" (clinically speaking) but it's so important to NOTICE THE SMALL CHANGES! I struggle with that as well since most of the time I don't wear things that make it easy to notice a change in complexion, but what I do notice is that I sleep better! I walk for longer without getting tired! I can bike for longer and lift up more weight during arm exercises! It may not be reflected on the scale, but I can FEEL the improvement. And only after that, I get the courage to try that shirt that was a bit too small and find out it fits better. It's difficult and slow, but I knew it would be. And if anyone happens to read this and relate to seeing no noticeable changes, please know that consistency IS KEY! Try to think of the small improvements, seek professional help if available. Get medically examined, get tests done, identify if there's other issues or disorders that are maybe making your weight loss journey harder. Once you do, it'll be easier for professionals to know exactly how to help. And most importantly, don't check for daily or even weekly progress. Weigh yourself every 2 weeks or every month. Losing lots of weight super fast isn't always healthy, and if you complement dieting with exercise expect to gain weight in muscle! Going to a nutritionist is great because the scales they use are specifically made to monitor water, fat, and muscle % (even bone density iirc) Sorry for the wall of text, but if my little insight on a personal experience is enough to motivate or help anyone, I'll be happy to have done so 🙌

[@waterbottle82730]

10:48 I disagree. what he said was unacceptable, you can't talk about people like that you can add constructive criticism with out calling her names like chill.

[@theoneandonlyK]

what an awful world we live in where people can't make mistakes without being hounded down by youtube channels equivalent to tabloid newspapers

[@Slim3y621]

True illymation didn’t “send her battalion to cancel him” she just asked if you happen to come across the video flag it! Because the video was …. Harassment!!! Illymation is awesome

[@theretrotelevision]

@@Slim3y621the video wasn’t harassment but alright, nothing wrong with being delusional…

[@animationvietnam3240]

@@theretrotelevision who is being delusional

[@SleepingPanda700]

​Slim3y621​@@animationvietnam3240

[@Cavendish78-m2u]

@@Slim3y621 The video he made was trending. I never heard of that channel until the Illymation drama. Besides, the Tumblr post she brought up had a link to that video on it, and she directly asked her Discord friends to mass flag the video.

[@misfitanimations2787]

Did anybody actually watch the video she made context is key she was trying to help people feel better about their physical appearance to avoid bullying so yes, clearly a terrible person🙄

[@Donquixote_doflamingo164]

Shut up

[@CarbonDioxid_e]

​@@Donquixote_doflamingo164you shut up

[@Mousewith]

@@Donquixote_doflamingo164Watch the original video. Then watch the video criticizing her. You’re on the wrong side.

[@Peppermynt.]

pegasus just destroyed his reputation

[@PollenDev]

man i just love when youtubers i like go online and spread misinformation and online hate!

[@trentonujig7453]

I feel like TBYS and all the commentary YTers didn’t even watch her video, they just watch TBYS and are basing off of that

[@starsidem]

@@trentonujig7453 fr though, and saying that she told all her fans (her tumblr with like 3k followers) to mass report his video (which doesnt actually do shit anyways lol, they could mass report and the vid could still be up, youtube sometimes reads the actual reasons ppl report) and just jump on the hate bandwagon because of how tbys edited the parts of her clips in his video to paint a narrative, her video is ligit the opposite of what tbys said lmao

[@elsinaattheworkshop]

TBYS actually ended up apologizing for the whole "bad fashion" part, it's on his community post on youtube! I guess he realized it was actually kinda harsh.

[@Mehhhhhhhh]

Good because those dresses aren't even that bad. "Frumpy" lol alright. It was a weird way to say he wants women to show more skin. Very sus.

[@elsinaattheworkshop]

@@Mehhhhhhhh I personally didn't like the dress, but I didn't see anything about him wanting women to show skin. The dress to me was designed with a thick material which is why she looked bigger in it. Obviously I can't tell since it's just a pic.

[@Chopscrewyyy]

Well good, saying that she "dresses like a grandma" isn't criticism, it's being an asshole

[@JamesP7]

@@ChopscrewyyyHe was referring to her glasses, which was criticism.

[@goatfood1504]

It was harsh, but the comment that she looks like she’s gonna bug you for spare change made me laugh so hard

[@bigego8630]

“Grandma glasses” 😂 that’s too funny bro just dissing her 😭🙏

[@angusfinc]

the video does not have to be 20 minutes long bro 🙏😭

[@OptimusPrime1563]

"Food is just food" It's like comparing a fart spray too mustered gas

[@rainiidraws]

so you're telling me I got expelled from school and thrown in prison for a harmless prank? damn

[@OptimusPrime1563]

@@rainiidraws yeah man 😞

[@Abolishtaxes1997]

@@rainiidraws It was nerve agent for me😔 stay strong brother

[@leomathguy]

Someone skipped 9th grade biology looks like (types of energy sources for the body are told about)

[@gurgungarungabunga1268]

@@Abolishtaxes1997 NERVE AGENT? WTF

[@BarnabySanders-jh4nf]

Pegasus said trust the gym bro not your doctor 💀

[@Dragon_pie]

No, he said doctors specialize in one thing and have relative less information on other things, so obviously a gym bro would have more information than say an eye doctor on nutrition because the gym bro focuses on what he eats and has learned what’s good for building muscle while an eye doctor would just say only eat carrots bc they good for your eyes. (I was joking on what an eye doctor would say but yk what I mean)

[@SOULZ4D]

love it how people make these kind of videos without doing any research or even watching the video

[@Myder_Dragon]

We gonna talk about how her words were selectively edited by Think Before You Sleep.

[@HecticHustler]

Everything else, yes, the end, doesn’t change anything

[@Myder_Dragon]

@@HecticHustler I mean it does. If you are editing clips and changing people's words to fit a narrative then you are not reliable.

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

we are both has the brain 👍

[@StorMRagE4EVA]

So someone talked shit for her promoting body positivity.... And then wonders why she decided to fight back? Yeah that totally isn't backwards logic.....

[@savagejack5714]

She never knew what he saif. She NEVER watched the video. She has no idea what the video is about. She heard it from a friend and instantly believed themselves and told her viewers to mass report it. The video could've cut that out and she still would've reported it for bullying

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

i'm getting tired of copypasting the same reply to a bunch of different people in this comment section and having to even see the backwards logic you're talking about

[@Mousewith]

@@savagejack5714Did YOU watch his video? He said some fucked up shit about her.

[@jackblack375]

Her friend just wanted to call her ugly. He wasn't named hater of the year for nothing

[@truthseeker9249]

That's what I was thinking.

[@dianaquill9969]

Just so you know... TBYS made a community post apologizing to Alyssa for that curt portion of his video a few days ago. It wasn't enough to make an entire video out of, but he did say that he should have phrased it more kindly. He explains a lot more, but that's one reason I really enjoy watching him. He's careful and considerate of his audience, making sure not to radicalize his audience, and apologizing publicly for public mistakes. He doesn't hide in a private Discord, or on Tumblr, or anything. He's very open about his mistakes.

[@Speedoodleman]

His entire channel is woke bad he literally is radicalising his primarily young audience

[@dianaquill9969]

@@Speedoodleman Then name three specific examples and the videos the quotes are in(or the videos where he lists nothing positive about his opponent), and name at least one video where he doesn't cite his sources for the negative portions of his video. If you come at me with a video over 3 years old then you'd have a better chance of filing child support for it rather than presenting it as his current and accurate opinion. This is a fraction of a fraction of the hours of work he puts into every video to make sure that he gives a valid, balanced opinion of every person he talks about.

[@awsomegirlpower476]

​@@SpeedoodlemanIs having people take care of themselves is radicalization now? Is this really what you want to argue? 😂 Then I'm glad he radicalized me. Lost over 40lbs and counting! Also learned about the colors that look beat on me and on others thanks to one of his vids as well.

[@nebulousquartz2712]

He specifically cut out the part where she says “Unless you have life threatening allergies or dietary restrictions to follow”

[@femboyfoxfurry2603]

His discord server literally doxxed her… he’s trying to do damage control without admitting what happened

[@dinky2028]

I did like her video, because she recognized she was healthy while still having chub. People have belly chub to protect their organs, but she clearly was still self conscious and should have worked on herself more before this video. And I believe she meant if you eat one carrot, it won't change anything, like eating one chocolate, but her wording was also poor. She could have listened to the criticism and learned, or explained better, but no, she sent a crowd. I myself struggle to lose weight but what matters is that you're healthy, not if you can see your ribs all the time.

[@lapislovesgaming8739]

Thats aight but her whole reason for doing exercise was because she didnt like being fat because she didnt look good. And then she failed to lose the weight probably because of a terrible trainer then changed her entire argument to say that she wanted to lose weight to be healthier.

[@ee-ef8qr]

@@lapislovesgaming8739 You do know people near health weights have a harder time losing weight

[@lapislovesgaming8739]

@@ee-ef8qr you do know you can read before you reply, right? My comment was about her changing the goalpost to make it seem like she started exercizing to be healthy but as she stated she started exercizing to lose weight purely for aesthetic reasons

[@ee-ef8qr]

@@lapislovesgaming8739 She didn't move the goal posts, those goals were one in the same, she considered being health as the same as having the physical image she wanted.

[@Aloysius_OHare]

She failed at losing weight because she gave up working out after 1-2 months. She isn't going to see progress so far because it was too early. Losing weight takes time. Gaining weight takes time. She's not even fat, she has a mental illness

[@hypiucle265]

God i wish people would use critical thinking and WATCH HER VIDEO THEMSELVES

[@AzureRuby96]

literally

[@ThatChelseaman_]

Pegasus owns her

[@TheoSur]

is that a danny gonzalez reference or am i going insane

[@F0zek]

Lmao it literally changes nothing

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

exactly

[@Christinejamie]

weightloss is hard but if you never give up you will start seeing results. The first three months for me were also hard but I never gave up and am now at a healthy weight

[@TheGiftofTime]

Just like how illymation didn’t watch thinkbeforeyousleep’s video, you clearly didn’t watch her’s. she made a bold move talking about being overweight, especially as a child, and low and behold, people bullied her for it. Which further proves that the internet is a toddler that will never mature. I am not saying that mass-flagging a video is right, but if people better understood what she was saying (or cared), this whole stupid situation would have never happened.

[@LeeroyGoldmane]

This burger king shit is good on my taste buds bad for my health

[@vincenzobonadonna4556]

It's bad for your taste buds, too 😂

[@justsomelizardwithatophat.367]

@@vincenzobonadonna4556now if it was Taco Bell…. Good for my taste buds bad for my A$$

[@Blue_Lambda]

@@vincenzobonadonna4556 😔

[@v4n1ty92]

Wait, you're an actual human being who thinks burger king tastes GOOD!? I just dont believe that

[@lothara.schmal5092]

@@v4n1ty92Burguer King in the US is ass, but in some other countries it is the best

[@remy22334]

Here's the thing. Food is just food. There's food good for your body and food for your brain. Teach how to understand that and find healthy balance instead of shaming people for liking certain foods. That's how you get healthy people. Also some people have certain body types. I personally am not super skinny, but no matter how much I lose weight, I look the same.

[@idcchmeh]

That was her point but this guy ignores it as he literally played the clip

[@bluetiger2468]

8:00 "There's no inherent bad food" She also has an animated diabetic kid eating sugar. I know a guy who's losing his legs because he's diabetic and has a sugar addiction. If he ate less sugar when he was younger, his life could have been completely different. The best thing you can do for your health is to moderate what you eat. A lot of people are unknowingly eating more than the recommended amount of sugar every day. You can be addicted to sugar, but people like to pretend like it's not an addiction because you only see the negative side of it several years down the line.

[@brett8259]

"She also has an animated diabetic kid eating sugar" some diabetics need sugar. There's also type one diabetes that isn't caused by sugar or lifestyle at all.

[@shyfoxfeatherhere6446]

​@@brett8259 in the video she shows the kid check his blood sugar levels before eating it.

[@brett8259]

@@shyfoxfeatherhere6446 What point do you think that proves? If it's too low, many diabetics need to eat sugar. If it's a good level, many diabetics can eat sugar.

[@shyfoxfeatherhere6446]

@@brett8259 it shows how much you know about food though. Illy is the type if person to say food is just food. Even when foods like say bananas when eaten in a high quantity can cramping in your limbs. Foods carry side effects, that's why we have to monitor what we eat

[@brett8259]

@@shyfoxfeatherhere6446 Congrats, you made the exact point she did in her video! :D Glad we're all in agreement. Food is just food and everything is okay in moderation (and beneficial for different things)

[@sillyanmbappe]

spreading misinformation to make quick content >>>

[@tinajeffer]

ikr

[@haven_lady675]

Didn't she mentioned "unless you have health problems like diabetes"?

[@HecticHustler]

Yeah, most ppl don’t have that man.

[@haven_lady675]

@@HecticHustler Something tells me this whole drama got started by someone who thinks his lifestyle makes you a better person. No, it makes you fit and healthy, not a better person. Look at Vegan teacher. She eats healthy yet she's an awful person. Yeah Illymation should've reacted maturely or just ignore him but come on. This is all stupid. I hate it when people use videos to counterargument instead of using DMs to talk it out.

[@AlexStarkey-f1g]

She did. TBYS cut that out, and Pegasus can't research and only put clips from TBYS