Biggest Possible Cactus Farm

[@neveragain767]

the fact that scicraft was already considering building this is scary. Edit: bruh

[@মেহেদীহাসান-ষ৭গ]

That's what scicraft is sci fi of Minecraft

[@markgatty]

@bruh That would explain time travelers and nuclear meltdowns.

[@thelodm6691]

@@মেহেদীহাসান-ষ৭গ I thought it was science craft?

[@Trynvis]

@@thelodm6691 it is

[@NStripleseven]

may as well ya know

[@topg6500]

Ahh yes now i can get green dye

[@sempervelox]

Now you can get xp in peaceful.

[@rogue_ruggie]

It’s still not enough green dye

[@zhennlloderiz4811]

Im bouta make this in my sky block world

[@topg6500]

@@rogue_ruggie yes

[@topg6500]

@@sempervelox genius

[@BitQuazy]

"Mojang has other priorities, like chat reporting" That killed me x D

[@_BangDroid_]

It makes you wonder... Is there really such a hidden scandal in Minecraft chat that warrants such emergency actions? Or is "think of the children" again a red herring

[@Frommerman]

@@_BangDroid_ Chat on anarchy servers like 2b2t is infamously horrific. If they could somehow implement a chat reporter which targeted only fascist monsters, child predators, etc, that would obviously be great for the community, and honestly the world at large. But the system they have spoiled so far instantly mutes you for typing "2900b," or any word which contains the spelling of a banned one like association, a bunch of different actual locations with unfortunate spelling, shitake, etc. And all of this ignores that flat bans on words are both meaningless and counter-productive, as fascist assholes will always just come up with new slurs, and doing this prevents well-intentioned people from explaining to others why we even want to remove words from the lexicon in the first place. The problem isn't the idea of chat reporting and banning. Silencing and deplatforming monsters is always a great idea. The problem is that this is an extraordinarily hard problem which cannot be solved through any algorithmic process short of full general intelligence. Which is why it needs to be left up to communities.

[@LDF286]

HI BQ

[@maniacstarfish7155]

@@Frommerman maybe I’m wrong but isn’t it highly unlikely 2b2t would ever update to 1.19.1 anyway? I feel like any of the extreme cases that actually need moderation are never actually going to be affected by it

[@georgejones3526]

@@_BangDroid_ I’ve been saying since I first heard about it that if you get banned and ever want to play again, you’ll have to purchase a new account from Microsoft. Hence, more money for them.

[@spanishSpaniard]

Illmango has reached an equilibrium with the world, at this point any extra efficiency is negated by slowing time down. I want to see your take in a giant bamboo farm, how you manage the ligth level will be interesting.

[@zoso9391]

The singularity of minecraft. "We thought about building this, but we'll distort time and puting that into our calculations, it's not worth it"

[@gwenzero2906]

That is the best way of describing lag EVER

[@literatemax]

I think you mean "negated"

[@puppergump4117]

The time dilation caused by the gravitational force of those cacti is no joke

[@acid1910]

"MSPT dropped from a bit over 50 now to around 23, so huge improvement, we would obviously like this in Vanilla but Mojang has other priorities like chat reporting" The 1.19 update is so laughably bad, but I am glad that we can laugh about this already.

[@RichHeart89]

Mud is cool, frogs are cool, ancient cities are cool. There's a lot of great things in 1.19. The fact that we don't get performance updates much on Java is only because they want us to make the jump onto Bedrock where vanilla performance is way better. Sure we who use or make mods and deal with issues ourselves will be fine with Java as it is but given time more and more people will choose Bedrock over Java. From a business standpoint Java is a liability. Microsoft can afford running two release versions of the game at the same time to garner some goodwill from the players in general but some day, when the Java population is small enough it will stop being updated. And when that day comes we will be happy that there is already a thriving modding community who can continue with the unofficial support for java Minecraft So in a long run it's probably a good thing for java that Microsoft is slowly letting it rot already

[@johnwest6690]

To be fair I highly doubt this was Mojang's choice, sounds like Microsoft interference. But still, Mojang have a habit of neglecting the games more hidden flaws.

[@person8064]

@@RichHeart89 bedrock bad, Java good

[@JustADudeDoingSomething]

@@RichHeart89 Nah ancient cities ain't cool anymore. It's not cool when you're traveling long distances in the nether, set up a portal, go to the overworld, and then end up near a shrieker where you set it off 3 times. Happened to me 10 times already and 2 times in a row. It's not good for the heart of hardcore players. I just want to travel not fight the warden. This update just made it more frequent for you to spawn in caves under y=0 if you're traveling from the nether. 🥴

[@OlaNordmann123]

The recent updates to the game has been fairly good content wise. Way better terrain generation, better caves, taller worlds, lots of really nice building blocks, moss (best block in the game). That they have not done huge work on performance does no make it a laughably bad update.

[@kdaviper]

I really wish Mojang would spend more time optimizing for lag. Culling unseen renders would help so much

[@juusomaenpaa7236]

They are too buzy reviewing the reports

[@hellytubbies]

I mean, they are basically required to update there game every damn year so, no time to fix stuff.

[@nekusakuraba4000]

​@@hellytubbies they are owned by a multi billion dollar company, and own the most sold game of all time (238,000,00 sales) but they don't have time to fix stuff? I hate to say it, but No Man's Sky had a lot less money from their game and they still did many more improvements with fixing stuff with what they have.

[@Weromano]

@@hellytubbies 1. where is this requirement stated? 2. optimisation is also an update

[@rudiwinkelstein2483]

​@@hellytubbies The fact that a few modders are able to improve the game performance by that much in their free time proves that Mojang either doesn't care about performance or is just incompetent (probably both). I've been a programmer for 15 years and I can tell you that many java devs neither care about nor know how to write performant applications. Java is usually used in the business environment, where there is enough money to just increase the infrastructure to compensate for the bad performance. It only becomes a problem for single thread applications like Minecraft

[@htgnef]

As it happens, 4,319,648 smooth stone slabs works out to almost exactly 2500 shulker boxes full of smooth stone slabs - it's 2499 full shulker boxes, plus another shulker box that's five and a half stacks short of being full. You'd need 47 double chests full of shulker boxes to store it all. I don't know what's more intimidating - the scale of this farm, or the fact that SciCraft can think "47 double chests of shulker boxes? Yeah, that seems manageable. Maybe this farm is worth building."

[@baconator678]

can u give me the measurements?

[@htgnef]

@@baconator678 If you want the material list, you can see it by pausing at 12:07. If you want the XYZ measurements, then it's 384 blocks in the Y direction (from the new lowest point in the world to the new highest point), and a circle with a diameter of approximately 256 blocks in X and Z (you'd have to see the exact schematics for details).

[@baconator678]

@@htgnef wow ok thx so much

[@jordanluke73]

Cactus tower was my next project but just watching this video filled my storage.

[@মেহেদীহাসান-ষ৭গ]

Creating inventory are actually powered by scicraft farms.

[@_BangDroid_]

It was fun, I built mine 1 chunk, bedrock to build limit. So many entities though. I send the overflow back into cactus for culling ;)

[@alexsiemers7898]

@bruh they use it for the XP gained by smelting it

[@cossicrots4290]

“You’d need 1.1 million cactus” So you need a cactus farm, to build a cactus farm 😂

[@gwenzero2906]

Thats what I was thinking!

[@cacl2500]

And probably an even smaller cactus farm to build that farm, and maybe a small starter cactus farm to build that one.

[@corycoad5825]

You would build it up and add the cactus as it grows like most cactus farm

[@F_Du_Sea]

@@cacl2500 Or maybe use this design but at a smaller scale and just make it larger when you have more cactus available?

[@ArlosPA]

You can just build this farm and let it already start producing cactus while you continue building it.

[@stranger0987]

Amazing series idea! I'm excited for knowing the maximum possible rates for all the farms already...

[@Name-jj3id]

world download or schematic pls?

[@jamesondasilva6502]

I agree completely! I hope Mango makes more videos like this.

[@enderyu]

For anyone interested, in an XP farm that would translate 2.75M (2.63M for nether portal version) XP per hour. That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian XP farms respectively. Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maxed out furnace based XP farm (fastest possible in the game).

[@minetech4898]

Thank you.

[@PanNic97]

Fun fact: you can afk farm this if you have the player placing furnace and blow them up with duped tnt. Since the 100% drop rate makes you loose no furnaces its a viable afk xp farm concept

[@louisbryant2302]

What is the maxed out furnace xp farm??

[@racernatorde5318]

@@louisbryant2302 It's literally in the comment that you responded to ask that question

[@shiparelli3448]

I really want to see this being built on SciCraft

[@macle5007]

i want it too see aswell but I will rather have them build something else which is more fun, have them spend their time on breaking game then doing repetitive stuff.

[@sambenmoser1240]

@@macle5007 yes

[@Miglow]

@@macle5007 it would be more fun if they built a machine that could build cactus farms.

[@maximilianarold]

@@Miglow They will call it A.C.H.E Artificial Cactus Harvesting Environment

[@EasyGoingMC]

Come on Ilmango, it’s the biggest game in the world. You can’t expect them to update more than once every 12 months and keep performance in check. Nice video!

[@introprospector]

Best we could hope for is probably incremental performance improvements in 1.19.3, 1.20.x, etc updates

[@EasyGoingMC]

@@introprospector we need another update like 1.15 that made the performance epic again

[@augustaseptemberova5664]

Ilmango never disappoints. Really good idea for a series. Personally, I'd be curious about the limit of iron farming, because here also entity lag enters the picture.

[@Stromne]

LOL, I was literally typing out a comment about "wait for a hardcore YT series to build this" and then Mango drops the shade himself. Love it

[@krazykat9362]

Fascinating to see you push the game to its actual limits like this. I for one would love to see more videos like this!

[@mikey88888]

A) can’t wait for the series to continue B) What happens if you use the end portal blocks where the netherbrick fence is, won’t that save you the layers that have the end portal and therefor be more compact :)

[@DialecticRed]

That's a really good idea, I don't see why that wouldn't work

[@মেহেদীহাসান-ষ৭গ]

Single block end portal would be too much work in vanilla. Creating end portal destroying frame portal would be night mare specially in this huge number

[@MethodZzS]

yes it would improve the rates a bit but also make it much more tidious to built.

[@PanNic97]

At this point you could have end portals as the blocks breaking the cactus so the items pop into them immediately

[@lemeow8102]

@@PanNic97 actually does that work? if so the farm can be like 8x more efficient given better server performance

[@hectorpepper2030]

Cant wait to see a "Biggest Possible Iron Farm" video on the near future :D Also good video 👍

[@shottysteve]

i knew this was going to happen as soon as you said “and if you want to make the biggest farm” during the random tick range video lmaooo

[@JustJum]

Yes! I've always been wondering about "What could be the fastest possible farm for x item". This is a series I'm gonna enjoy. I'm wondering how farms like cobble farms would work? Since technically you could chunk load the entire world and make a cobble farm filling the entire world, but you would need some insane pc for that.

[@couchpotato6345]

You know that one meme of palpatine in Star Wars going “Infinite power!” All I think of is that but “INFINITE CACTUS!!!!”

[@epicspacetroll1399]

*UNLIMITED POWER!!! Wait I mean UNLIMITED CACTUS!!!!

[@whitestonejazz]

Nice to see more hardcore survival content on this channel

[@_wetmath_]

ilmango: you need to place down 9.4 million blocks to make this farm also ilmango: so i did some off camera mining...

[@JoshuaKoerner]

Sounds like a very entertaining series idea! Hope it gets the traction for you to continue!

[@remuxic9241]

Tysm for the green dye farm man. Was making a giant green base and needed a lot of green dye

[@androov2797]

ok now time to get a fuel farm to smelt all of this... Idea for the second episode!

[@remuxic9241]

@@androov2797 I agree and approve.

[@Yutaro-Yoshii]

Is Ilmango aiming for the god particles???

[@maxwellli7057]

When Mojang adds movable tile entities, you know exactly what will happen to this farm 😈

[@marino7544]

That's what this reminded me of as well!

[@josiahtaylor8714]

Ilcactus is finally back 🙌🧡

[@alephcake]

technical minecraft destroys people. i can't believe how casually he just said "1.3 million items per hour" like it's completely normal

[@Wunba]

Geez! The funny thing is that I could see someone making this on survival for a record or something!

[@kev8962]

I see how it is

[@DungeonMobs]

Faking hardcore videos :(

[@DialecticRed]

Man I really want to see more of these! Very curious about maximum capacity for wheat farming with villagers -- I tried to make a farm myself spanning from -64 to the world limit, but it ended up lagging so terribly that I had to disable it (although this is mostly because my item collection system used dropper chains and was probably horribly inefficient).

[@aarongrooves]

Just grinded this out in hardcore survival over the past two weeks 😂 That's what, placing 7.8 blocks per second for 2 weeks, every second of every minute of every day. Piece of cake!

[@THEMithrandir09]

probably could automate sand-placement with flying machines, you basically drop sand every 2nd block right? The walls you could just make out of cobblestone using lava and water. So that'll automate placing the sand and the outside full-blocks. Still an insane effort, but also a cool video lol

[@youraveragebedwarssweat5922]

AFAIK no you cant automate sand placement because youd still need to place it and there are walls on top of the sand that prevent it from falling in place

[@Annoyance1969]

When scicraft builds a farm like this they are planning on automating it

[@dc-ayush1115]

I wonder he complished those project which anyone even think of doing. Hats off to illmango. ❤💕

[@ncolyer]

amazing work, and to think an ideal ncore ntf would fill up an inventory in half the already brief time it takes the mega cactus farm too is astonishing, never seen a visualisation like that where there's 2.5+ mil items flowing into a players inventory

[@Kitkarian]

This is really goofy yet practical and achievable which is really fun to see.

[@joevdb9232]

insane... really interesting to see what each farm's maximum rate is when only lag-optimisation is the limiting factor, and what lag-optimisations you come up with

[@Nephelangelo]

Just as I’ve been gearing up to build what I perceive in my head to be a massive underground cactus farm of eight 8x8 layer modules, Mango posts this. 😂

[@ethanmik2587]

“My friend Beppo” I’m dying rn

[@oyfum2638]

“We would obviously like this in vanilla, but Mojang has other priorities, like chat reporting.” Damn, shots fired XD.

[@racernatorde5318]

Fastest poisonous taters farm possible?

[@YounesLayachi]

I absolutely LOVE that you incorporated end portal frame items into the design of this farm !

[@Erik-pu4mj]

Beyond Scicraft Scale Now that's a scary thought, and you brought it to life in creative.

[@Nekzuris]

when you say at 8:00 that the farm is bigger than any irl skyscraper, look at the "Abraj Al-Bait Towers", it's on the same scale, 400m by 250m to 250m high and the central tower goes up to 601m

[@DesktopFolder]

very kind of beppo to help you out with the cactus farm!

[@RagelopeDharma]

So that's what the tower of babel looked like... Great work as always

[@davil1829]

Me: *wanting to build a cactus farm Scicraft players: Prepare for trouble, Hypixel sweats: and make it double!

[@syshs8013]

How big farm you want....... Ilmango:yes

[@ryanmcintyre3616]

Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should

[@RaizenEx1]

To make it a bit more efficient instead of snow put a block beneath the end portal, or if it still can't pick it up, put slime blocks instead so it bounces items back up into portals

[@elmacho2789]

This is a cactus moment

[@kiryonnakira7566]

11:54 damn didn't realised i was watching something cursed until you mentionned it. Welp we're kinda used to see cursed stuff with scicraft so maybe that's why

[@ShootLiegh]

I really enjoy the absurdly large farms that push game limits. This is going to be a fun series.

[@tldr9989]

10:54 The flowing water against the glass made such a trippy effect. For a moment I thought you somehow created diagonal walls.

[@98SE]

Holy Scheiße illmango you never cease to impress haha!

[@flache1086]

When you can hear the smile of Ilmango you know its a big farm. x) (Also a cactus farm that requires to build another cactus farm to get 1 million cactus just to build it is ... Too big for conventional uses. x) If you're on an economy server where you can spam /sell all though... You're rich! )

[@luislebronaponte2737]

"But Mojang has other priorities...like chat reporting." Oof. I felt that. 😬

[@coconoisette]

Ah! Good! I needed some green dye to make some green leather horse armor! Thanks for this easy and quick to build farm it really helped!

[@sebmarr4214]

Finally i can get that god particle to make a reasonably fast xp farm

[@cedriccappelle]

This farm won't make you get that particle faster. It would still take every furnace almost 7 hours

[@enderyu]

@@cedriccappelle Just run a bunch of furnaces in parallel. You have to wait a bit to "buffer" but then you can have a god particle every 3.25 seconds on average

[@cedriccappelle]

@@enderyu Yep, a bunch 😅

[@enderyu]

@@cedriccappelle would require about ~8000 furnaces. Didn't sound that absurd until i realized the biggest super smelter I could find has 'only' 6000 of them

[@cedriccappelle]

@@enderyu I guess if one builds a cactus farm of this size, then supersmelters would be just a little extra

[@irishmigit]

I'm loving the start of this series. Reminds me of Dataless making huge farms ages ago

[@heresyhunter4100]

I love how SciCraft just goes for it, and builds things as big as possible.

[@Asdayasman]

I _adore_ the idea of this series and would love to see more.

[@chrisisbezig]

Almost 800K so deserved. Been here since like 60K.

[@2520WasTaken]

Now we just have to wait until Wunba builds this in hardcore

[@DontBother_YT]

Series title: "Can we Scale it?" I'd binge watch that series.

[@AnyKeyLady]

When it's not about why but the satisfaction it brings.

[@captainmarshmallow5455]

I love this kind of video keep it up Ilmango

[@hl2mukkel]

"But mojang has other priorities, like chat reporting" lmao so true though

[@ffttossenz]

Now we need the mega furnace array and fuel farm and we’d have the ultimate XP farm

[@androov2797]

can't wait for someone to do the math

[@racernatorde5318]

@@androov2797 1 XP orb per cactus and if you use coal you need 1/8 of the cactus in coal

[@enderyu]

​@@androov2797 1 xp per cactus meaning 2750k (2630k for nether portal version) xp per hour. That is 46x / 18x / 15x times faster than the theoretical maximum for an enderman / pigman / guardian xp fam respectively. Also would require around ~8000 furnaces running in parallel to keep up, but is 32 times slower than the necessary for the maximum furnace based xp farm.

[@androov2797]

@@enderyu wdym maximum furnace based xp farm?

[@gerardmatthieu907]

@@androov2797 1 god particle every game tick or so ( cubicmeter made a video upon it )

[@lentencraft]

the fact that the lithium mod makes such a difference is crazy.

[@x8fk3ti]

Wow, can't wait for all hardcore KZbinrs to build this in their worlds!

[@Twitchi]

I support this series idea :D

[@sfisher923]

TIL - Lithium is such a great mod for Performance (That 30 MSPT to 110 in the Overworld was noticeable)

[@omerfarukyalcnkaya2335]

this is a good cactus source for early game xp i recommend it

[@ICEDNOTBLENDED]

I’d prefer a series where you make some of the most compact farms and fit them all close enough that you can ask in a spot and run like 100 small farms at once

[@kepler_drew853]

This is one hell of an advert for Lithium

[@dougjennings]

I've actually wanted to see this as a series for awhile

[@pilldouglas5379]

Please continue making this series. I'm a bedrock player but, I find this fascinating

[@jamesdickison8991]

thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been asking Mumbo to do this again. love this concept!

[@_wetmath_]

ayo this series sounds like mumbo's ancient series called "too small"

[@_wetmath_]

maybe you should call the series "too big" lmao

[@averythiccboi2367]

I can finally wake up to a universe where I won't ever run out of green dye.

[@-Bee]

Cactus farms for some reason are oddly satisfying. Even more so on large scales such as this.

[@dannyreeve22]

if anything it would make an awesome xp farm

[@WalnutBun]

So this produces more cactus in one hour than any single player will use in their entire lives.

[@slimeistdev]

The true application for Cactus Storage - storing millions of cacti!

[@moobit]

On my server MCages, we sell farmed blocks to the server for in-game money (for shops etc). Last year I built a 2x2 chunk cactus farm bedrock to build height (pre C&C's). It used to make me over a million £'s per day! :D

[@palamontus1037]

i only need one cactus. imagine going to end prepared for ender dragon and a bunch of cactus rains on u :P also toilet also... nice

[@painxoxo4035]

Finally a new series Can't wait for more Ilmango Please keep the series for a long time :).

[@Lopoi]

Probably the best idea for this farm is to have it somewhere in the world where you cant reach easyly. And then just have an entrace on the nether os you can just enable it whenever you need

[@MuzikBike]

5:47 Anorher reason I like ilmango: he actually removes mods from his mod folder that give him an unfair advantage.

[@racernatorde5318]

Unfair advantage? That mod changes nothing but the performance. Calling that unfair is complete nonsense

[@MuzikBike]

@@racernatorde5318 In the rare context of cactus farms of this magnitude, it's going beyond what vanilla is capable of.

[@racernatorde5318]

@@MuzikBike Ehh, computing power is a completly arbitrary limitation that should never be a factor for considering what is "vanilla" in the game itself. Are people supposed to limit themself just because Mojang has no interest in optimizing their game?

[@MuzikBike]

@@racernatorde5318 Valid point. I suppose it depends on if you're measuring what the fastest cactus farm should be versus what the fastest cactus farm is.

[@percytheb4053]

I'd love more videos like this. Absolutely insane, keep it up mango

[@simonalexander5468]

This is definitely a series I want to see more of, keep up the great work

[@norbucso]

When he is saying largest it's definitive. Nuts but love it. ❤

[@jacksonrocks4259]

I like that you’re okay with using zillions of blocks to build this farm but initially shy away from nether brick fences bc it’s less practical xD

[@CubeOfWar]

"Here's the vanilla version" ... proceeds to show a water stream in the nether

[@KoukosAlex]

I started doing this a couple of years ago on a cactus economy server. Max distance from player that a crop can grow and started building up. The best part was that I made a sand dropping machine that would place thousands of sand blocks each time in one second. Of course I had to place thousands of sand columns before that, but it was faster I'm long run. A very painful build but it made us the richest on that server 😅

[@ExodiumTM]

JellySquid mods are an absolute game changer for Minecraft

[@mwk22bath]

"ilmango's Ultimate Farms"

[@arthurbouwhuis1647]

This could be usefull for furnace xp farms

[@markgatty]

i guess you can now build a bamboo farm to fuel an absolutely massive super smelter.

[@MrRubikraft]

This series promises to be fascinating, once again! Great idea!