Ilya Ilyin's Best Numbers, the Exact Moment he got Popped, and WADA | WH Exclusive part 2

[@WeightliftingHouse]

Timestamps 00:18 - What was the 242kg World Record like? 04:19 - Best ever training lifts 06:37 - Where were you the moment you got popped? 13:30 - "My life is ruined" 16:28 - Do you blame Kazakhstan? 18:50 - The involvement of politics in sport. "There is big money..." 19:40 - Did WADA make you their poster boy? 20:25 - Is it wrong to take drugs in sport? 22:20 - Do sports need drugs to maintain popularity? 23:10 Is it possible to remove drugs from weightlifting? Cheers guys! Seb

[@NaturalHypertrophy]

His blue singlet from 2015 is iconic. Thanks for bringing us these interviews man

[@WeightliftingHouse]

We need a re-run of Kazakh singlets!

[@PS7601]

@@WeightliftingHouse Unfortunately, this will not happen soon. WADA and KazNADC "did a good job". To rebuild the system of rehabilitation is not so simple. Pharmacology in Kazakhstan is not very developed, and steroids are banned. Many promising athletes are suspended for using steroids. Some left on their own as funding was cut.

[@Paluzinator]

Weightlifting House maybe its time to write to Klokov/winner?

[@TheArtofBoxing101]

When you asked him about if he blamed Kazakhstan and he was nodding his head "yes", you could have just ran with that like every other interviewer does and not care about potentially hurting his career as MANY journalists and interviewers do... instead you knew he didn't understand and made sure that he understands the question before he answered. Good man.

[@scottessery100]

its beyond lifting its politics sad for athletes like ilya and gabriel who were used by politicians

[@TheArtofBoxing101]

@@scottessery100 Yeah but you know what... let's atleast remember they even had a chance to get into the Olympics and use steroids (as they should), us Americans are tested so heavy we can't even do that!

[@jishubharadwaj3817]

@@TheArtofBoxing101 all countries can do it bro don't worry about that XD

[@makaan699]

Yeah it would be terrible if his career was potentially hurt! Fortunately nothing like that happened.

[@yeeboy217]

So much respect for him for being honest, upfront, unapolagetic, and explaining how this is the system. Makes Ilya seem like a real dude, and a real man ... especially in comparison to certain pro bodybuilders who lie in interview and swear that they have never taken a performance enhancing drug in their entire life. Way more respect for Ilya after watching this, and a good objective account of what is going on with testing and wada. great content thanks.

[@sebc3546]

it's a little different with bodybuilders because most of them are dependent on their supplement sponsorships and they are not allowed to talk about roids

[@PS7601]

Bodybuilding is not a sport, it's a beauty contest. Did you mean powerlifting?

[@abadran8174]

@Лука Перковић it is not a sport brother because it does not include any performance.

[@SportyWizard18]

ILYA ILYIN FOREVER THE GOAT. GREATEST LIFTER OF MY LIFE TIME.

[@eddieyoshida9627]

Still my favourite weightlifter ever! Ilya ILYIN FOREVER💪🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿

[@przemysawkalwat8066]

Mine too!!! Juice boy is back!!!

[@olli77hajnal]

forever a cheater

[@n3phalem754]

@@olli77hajnal Lol they are all juicing. Ilya is the best ever!

[@olli77hajnal]

@@n3phalem754 he got caught, many others too - you have to draw the line somewhere. Glorifying cheaters makes doping acceptable, it shouldn't be like that. Not EVERYONE is cheating, most European athletes are clean.

[@bobbyb4024]

"most european athletes are clean" LOL

[@harrispj4205]

Here's a summary of all the interviewers who interviewed Ilya 1. Ask him 10 times what is his best front squat 2. Ask him 10 times if he tried more 3. Repeat 1 and 2

[@ryanreviews8566]

I think for the "is drugs good for sports" section: He is saying that pro athletes need pharmaceuticals to help them recover properly since they train an ABSURD amount. Not exactly specifying / promoting drugs like roids etc but the health industry needs to develop and grow with the sport so athletes can progress better and safer. Without them, athletes would degrade fast in their pro years and the sports progress would stall.

[@pegleggreg3627]

Agreed. Drugs just have this big taboo, while it serves the same purpose as physio, massages, etc. Drugs dont always give you superhuman strength for a while; they let you recover faster so you can train more, build muscle faster so you can train more, etc

[@bigguy4u989]

“so, if no pharmaceutical, results go down, and sports worth nothing… if we speak now serious🤷🏻‍♂️” ilya keeping it real

[@pegleggreg3627]

Man, I would never want to feel how he felt in 2016. Your whole life's achievements gone in a second. poof. done. The way he says my "my life is broken" really shows how much it destroyed him. I think Ilya will improve with an extra year behind him, as he's been improving and hes not as old either

[@robs9833]

I know I felt that when he said my life is broken. He was literally moulded into a weightlifting beast from young

[@IamLEGENDkb24]

that's what happens when you get caught... but hope he improves drastically bc he isnt even close to being competitive now..

[@pegleggreg3627]

@@IamLEGENDkb24 believe he’s announced that he’s retired. Not sure if he would have been sent, but I don’t think he wanted to go if he wasn’t there to win. It was difficult to see him struggle with 200. A man that’s done 240+ many many times, it was just difficult

[@Nikolayski1337]

The story of Angel Genchev is similar. He got stripped of his gold medal in Seoul 1988 due to politics. Also Ivan Abadjiev got banned as a coach. Bulgarians had conquered the gold medals in, I think, all of the categories they participated in. In the movie Salto Mortale, Genchev speaks about the dirty politics behind the scene and the hurt it caused him. He is the heaviest man on earth to lift 3x his bodyweight. 67.5kg cnj 202.5kg

[@LazySniper]

I honestly feel bad for Ilya. I dreamed of being him. But to find out the government was making him take drugs was heart breaking. I can only imagine what he felt. I saw a documentary about him leading up to the London games. It showed a clip of the President saying he's sick and he needs the people's help. Then it showed him winning Paris, on the ground yelling as loud as he could. It really showed how much was in his shoulders and that was what the country turned him into. A poster child for patriotism and forgot he's still human. You're still a winner in my eyes Ilya.

[@himanitrivedi2959]

Do you have a link to this video?id love to watch

[@hamishmorris8376]

Thanks so much for this Seb! What a great interview, with the GOAT

[@jerrypeterson5237]

Great interviews. You are doing a fantastic job for this community. Keep it up brother

[@cristianoeusebi670]

Ilyan Ilyn is one of the greatest lifter of all time. Everybody used doping in an increasing way from 60's so, as everybody use doping, the winner is the best one. We have to consider that in 1948, 100 kg World Champion John Davis did around 140 kg Snatch and 180 C&J. So we cannot attribute the huge surge in results to training method, supplements ..and bla bla bla. So we cannot know the real reasons why Ilyn was ripped from his medal. How can we think the others are clean, while other lifters did e.g 185\230 ? Or the women today that can lift the same kgs of same men weight category of 50's ? And now the doping business is huge and is difficult to stop it. Ilya remain one of the my favorite Lifter.

[@grumpycroissant8712]

He is such a big kid lol

[@MonsterhunterFTWWTF]

That's both hilarious and amazing that the most weight he's ever pulled off the ground is 250kg and that he can clean it too... I wonder how much he could deadlift in his prime? 350+? 370?

[@yetanotherRjven]

Honestly I wonder if he misunderstood the question perhaps? Cause it sounds absolutely insane lol.

[@jacob_7567]

@@yetanotherRjven surely he meant clean pull

[@ivanmarasmiladinov3093]

It's likely that he hasn't done a basic deadlift since they were building his base at, like 12-13 years old. As Ilya said, they don't even back squat all that much, so I don't believe he'd have much reason to train for max deadlift, let alone do a max deadlift.

[@ivanmarasmiladinov3093]

@@jacob_7567 there's video of it. He cleaned 250, couldn't jerk it. But he managed the jerk from the blocks, i think

[@bust3rblader]

no; trained with him. He doesn't deadlift because he's had a lower back injury.

[@patrickl5290]

Let me start by saying, I really appreciate all the good journalistic work you do for the sport. However, maybe next time you ask someone to give a thoughtful answer to a complex question, have them answer in a language that they can actually articulate their thoughts in. I'm not sure if you couldn't find a translator or something, but this was painfully slow and lacking in material. Again, thank you for the content, I am only saying this in the hopes that it may help it improve.

[@leocoyne-xk8gq]

Just watched this and glad someone else said this

[@benchgoblin]

Ok, pencil neck, typing paragraphs about weightlifting online but don’t even lift. Anyways, there’s a translator sitting right next to him. If Ilya wanted help, he would ask. It’s Ilya’s interview, if he wants to do his own translating then deal with it

[@benchgoblin]

@@leocoyne-xk8gq*typed, typed this.

[@csabaveres3230]

I stopped watching weightlifting after the collapse of the Soviet Union, because it got very boring, especially after the old Soviet era lifters were gone. THIS GUY was the first exciting lifter to come along and get me watching weightlifting again. He tells the absolute truth very simply. WADA go away. Clean the toilets or something if you want to be useful. Just go away and let the weightlifters lift.

[@iceboxchamberlain1]

Thanks for part 2!!

[@notyouraveragemo5621]

The Greatest To Ever Do This Sh!t.

[@marksinclair2592]

Surely if he ever tried going for a max deadlift in his prime he could’ve easily done 340-350kg range.. absolutely insane how the most is what he cleaned

[@kitsune6836]

This is the first time that Illya admitted to taking drugs. And i agree, the sport is seriously in trouble right now. Everybody that dopes needs to get caught or nobody gets caught.

[@Llanos191]

It's well known that in the world elite and Olympic weightlifting all participants to a greater or lesser extent use anabolics. The difference they banned some of them and not others is found in politics. Whoever believes that legends like Naim, Pierros and many others achieved their records and legacy without PED's help is delusional and having no idea about this sport.

[@howard264]

@@Llanos191 What of the legends from my time ? Ike Berger, Tommy Kono, Tony Garcy, Gubner (2 strength sports) from the US. Others from Europe and ASIA - Vlasov, Miyake, etc. Couldn't compete with the numbers these fellows put up today , but I surely believe they were "natural" for the most part. They were still way stronger and more athletic that the man in the street and were to be admired for their strength and skill. .

[@jkjk1399]

It's not only a Weightlifting problem, if they do ban all doping athletes in the Olympic games there sure will be no athletes in almost all Olympic sports. Ilya is right in that, "if you catch me, catch the other guy". The winner ends being who can avoid getting caught, not the strongest man.

[@GilBatesLovesyou]

@@howard264 Tony Garcy admitted to Dianabol use, Kono more or less denied it, others I don't really know about. Yuri Vlasov almost definitely, being in the Soviet system. Before 1976 anabolics weren't even banned or tested for, so there wasn't a reason to not take them unless you were scared personally of them.

[@sportsedtvweightliftingtra5793]

We love your interviews

[@TheSilversimon]

have to say, i have a new level of respect for Ilya. Not just because of this interview, but even because he seemingly is the only person who doesnt blame his doping violation on "tainted supplements" or some other BS excuse. It is so unfair that Ilya gets popped though, yet North Korea, Iran, China etc, doesnt. I know they all have been popped in the past, but recently they haven't. Even Georgia can be included here. Not saying anything bad about athletes from these countries, I love to watch them. But its not fair to do this to one guy who has attracted so much attention to the sport. Ilya WAS doing for weightlifting, what Lasha is doing now. Can you imagine, a man of Lasha's size only clean and jerking 14 kg more than Ilya as a 105? I have to say, thats pretty insane!!

[@callumbarnes554]

Lasha was already popped. For some reason at the time he only received a minor ban. He came back stronger than ever

[@spacegupta71]

Gets banned and comes back stronger than ever lmfao

[@johnappleseed9290]

Money talks!!

[@benchgoblin]

can you blame an athlete for lying? they are losing everything, what do they have to gain by telling the truth and severing any hope that they might get an appeal or lowered punishment. because they know all their competition are using too, if they are at the highest level

[@belldozer10]

You should make a shirt with the color scheme of the singlet he wore when he c&j 246

[@johannesweightlifting8265]

Legend! I'm trying to learn weightlifting myself!

[@alanlawson6669]

Great video love the content :D

[@NM-bk3sk]

Illya ilyan For Ever😍

[@aodalbanian]

How many parts are there? A link to the third?

[@fc4511]

Hey Seb, great job!

[@Mark1JT]

Thank you for this interview it was excellent. My personal opinion is that PED"s will never be eliminated from sports, professional or amateur. It's more of a game of cat and mouse between the PED users and the PED testers. People seem to think that PED users are only what they are because of the PED's when in reality PED's allow the athlete to work so much harder than they would be able to otherwise, allowing for these incredible performances. I think the world of sports would be much more entertaining to watch, which is the purpose of televised sports, if they eliminated the PED testing. Otherwise the game of PED users using novel compounds that are not known or testable then the testers playing catch up will continue. Nothing in my opinion takes away Ilyin's incredible performances and he will always be one of the best regardless of PED use.

[@ryanreviews8566]

There are way too many negative impacts if it is just haphazardly allowed. Still for debate.

[@杨雄杰-l3h]

Where is the part 3

[@zyabayz101]

You ask very good questions, but these are questions that would be extremely difficult for him to answer even if the interview were conducted entirely in his native language. As others have already pointed out, expecting him to listen and respond effectively in English is not realistic; his English skills, although they are improving, are not yet at the necessary level. I really hope that in the future, you will conduct such interviews in the subject's native language and either provide subtitles, or instead carry out the interview through a translator directly.

[@ДмитрийКоротков-э6и]

Ещё понимать что-нибудь. А за Илью сразу лайк)

[@albegt98]

the bes for me Ilya 💪

[@fabiobonetta5454]

Legend

[@stockholmstomten]

Hell yeah dude matlock? That shit rules

[@declanosullivan8749]

Good interview, feel so bad for him, all politics. They will never retest Bolt's samples from 2008-2012 seasons and catch him for gear, would finish the Olympics IIya is right, people are not interested in watching 10.20s 100m, football players playing every 7 days instead of 3, sub 200kg snatches by superheavies, people would get bored and the sports would die Nike, Adidas etc need pharmacology in sports, they need to look like they are improving

[@doda4731]

I just remember seeing him when he started out and then one year he was a big Chungus lifting like a god.

[@mariososterneto1191]

Yes!

[@name9947]

Please teach me how to squat, how to keep my lower back arch. My lower back keeps rounding when it's heavy weight.

[@grumpycroissant8712]

Are you squatting for weightlifting? If it's so, you have to make effort to have your torso upright. Leaning too much forward can make your lower back rounding. You mention that your back rounds during heavy squats, it's a sign that your quads are not strong enough to handle the weight so you compensate by leaning forward- that way, you utilized your back and hamstrings more. Squat down, don't squat back. Do more front squats in the mean of time to really get the feel of being upright in the bottom position (also less back exercises). As for stretching, do spiderman lunge stretch, "russian baby maker", and towel hamstring stretch I had the same issue, especially for my bodytype- short torso and long legs. I tended to lean forward. I used to put my body-barbell weight centered on mid foot. I changed it to center more on the heels while squatting down, my squats becoming so much more upright and no more lower back rounding.

[@Goriaas]

1 in case of "buttwink": don't squat deeper than your mobility allows for. if you want to squat very deep your knees have to go far enough forward and outward to allow you that kind of depth 2 in case of rounding over: don't turn it into a good morning, stay in your quads, if your back folds over on the way up, reduce weight to a point where you can keep your desired back angle. if that takes additional quad work like front squats do those aswell I don't have that problem I am not a very leggy guy I'm 6'3(191cm) but with short legs and arms, it's easy for me to stay upright. But I have a worse position for pulls because of my shorter(relative to torso) limbs ^WHat the guy above me said is pretty good

[@stockholmstomten]

You forgot the most iconic moment in Ilya’s career When he said the n-word in klokov’s old video blog m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGS3YYmAgZV8ias

[@scottessery100]

22:23 its society thats got the issue "sports need pharmaceuticals" .... do es the media and society stigmatise PEDs in the same sense that some are ok and others arent? but can some countries sell test over the counter and then its like just the same as any medication. or do all spectators and people expect that all athletes should only take caffeine creatin and food

[@richardarmitage5976]

Testing procedures are of very limited value Until they come up with a test that gives a accurate result immediately.

[@harmond614]

伊林是真正的狼人，举重之神！从他训练、比赛时的眼睛里可以看到杀气

[@Mufuchi]

PEDs can’t be removed, should be regulated.

[@Goriaas]

pointless. then they will just push the limits WHICH drugs they can use and how much. The whole thing will essentially not change

[@Rizzerio1]

@@Goriaas That's like saying all McDonalds employees should not be sick when coming to work. One way or the other its gonna happen and their aint a dam thing can be done about it. Manager is short staffed and dont give a dam cuz they need to look good to the boss by making a speedy service, they turn their head when your looking a little pale. Uh oh, rules are now broken, welcome to the sports world.

[@benchgoblin]

this is the paradox, will always be necessary to be #1 and will never be fully tested against and caught guilty in 100% of the pool

[@МанарКалиев-й4ъ]

Біздің Ілияс ағылшынша сөйлейді екен ғо

[@markoschie]

As muss as a press out is a failure by the rules doping is a failure as well. Yes I sympathize with his situation, with the idea of being „popped“ for political reasons or whatever. I am missing a great instance of self-reflection (which could also be a language issue). Anyway, his life isn't ruined by any other than himself. it was ruined the moment he started using drugs hoping not the be caught and no way he can reason his way back "to his medal".

[@fmls8266]

He got caught in a game much bigger than him, you clearly can't understand what it means finding out you have the potential to win an Olympic Gold when you are a teenager with dreams.

[@inky4690]

Considering him and his whole team/competitors were also taking drugs and it’s just the norm at that level. He got popped due to a political situation. Like he said, they blame just the athletes, the problem is much deeper. If you know what I mean

[@AB-oy1ly]

Juice head RATTTT

[@james31666]

A B thanks for this incredibly well thought-out and concisely articulated comment. It really added to this video’s discussion.

[@olli77hajnal]

forever a cheater

[@spacegupta71]

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