iMachining By SolidCAM. Amazing Machining (Steel)

[@Bowtie41]

As an old school manual machinist with just a little CNC experience,I was impressed and scared to watch this!Not scared for job security,just at the speeds/feeds currently used.I'd hate to imagine being handed that print and a B-Port,as to how long it would take me to do that,if at all,Sure as hell wouldn't be 12 minutes!Thanks for making an old man drool with "endmill envy",lol !

[@lineage13]

My cnc router cuts almost that fast.

[@Bowtie41]

But I'm still stuck with a Bridgeport,Clausing clone,and a 'lil 3-in-1 ;-),but I get by,some folks don't even have that.Wanting to CNC the 3-in-1,maybe someday.........

[@Tool1717]

I am glad to hear you like iMachining. Before using iMachining I never realized what a happy tool should sound like.

[@Tool1717]

Thanks for the kind words. You are correct this machine is really amazing, and almost all CAM systems have "similar" strategy. I would recommend anyone looking at these strategies gets trial versions and cut metal before making a decision. I would like to mention one stand out feature of iMachining. All these videos (internal and customers)are using cutting conditions generated by iMachining's Technology Wizard. Users really love this feature.

[@CapriMikeC]

This is high speed machining. The software creates toolpaths which are trochoidal (tiny loops) assuring the tool always engages at small increments to minimize load. The small radial engagement permits using chip thinning techniques. Often, no coolant is used, just a powerful air blast aimed at the tool. Nice demo. The acc/dec for that mill is impressive.

[@martindrengenxbox360]

I love Imachining! I have used it on a Haas VF2, working on some Impax supreme steel. With a 10mm endmill you can go full depth and just plow through! It is super impressive!

[@mustang7845]

this is awesome ive never seen any cutter cut so deep so fast and not turn blue without slurry

[@Tool1717]

Currently Rough, Rest, and Finish are separate operations in the CAM system. One operation was used of each with multiple pockets in the geometry list. If cycle time is a concern, you could make a rough operation for 1 pocket followed by the rest then the finish. Do that for each pocket. This would give more efficient ordering. We have plans to improve this functionality.

[@timrr2010]

This type of tool path is not damaging machines. It just running them correctly and to the full capabilities.

[@JbassPlayer28]

seems like all that jerk from the tiny xy moves when it gets into corners would cause extra wear on the machine. could be wrong but damn that is crazy to accelerate that much weight that quickly

[@electron-positron]

You're right. The reason this never caught on is because after about two weeks of this job your machines ball screws would be absolutely knackered.

[@kabeladel4530]

@@electron-positron no, not true.

[@electron-positron]

@@kabeladel4530 if you say so

[@CNCsBest]

You can do a very similar toolpath using Delcam's Powermill. Also keep in mind that the machine as a lot to do with it. The machine in this video doesn't starve for information and it must have a really advanced look-ahead.

[@Tool1717]

The machine is a Müga German made. The machine has very good acceleration. I was talking to an iMachining user a few weeks back and we talked about the KZbin videos. I tell users you don't have to machine like the KZbin videos but they show what is possible and how the cutting should look and sound. I mentioned this video and he thought this video was sped up. It is not :)

[@Tool1717]

Thank you! Other "similar" tool paths are offset driven with many retracts and positioning moves. iMachining varies the width of cut to keep the tool in contact with the material to reduce positioning.

[@nenadratic6319]

I'm using this strategy in my shop but much slower . Thay do this to impress us , by video , but in real time and word you can not doing that all the time . I can just imagine the condition of this CNC machine if you will run like that for mabe 12-14 hours every day and like this a few years . Try and will see what will happen with machine . The optimum is in the middle . But using this strategy will save a lot of programming time and is very nice if you can find some good parametars to save your machine and decrease cycle time . And also depend of materials , what you machining . A 6-7 years ago I did machine a tons of Aluminum ( T-6061) and did use YG1 half inch 3 flute cutter and doing that with one cutter for a weeks some time even 3 month . Now I'm doing S7 ( tool steel) and that is totaly different world .

[@stooh500]

looks incredible would love to see it live

[@jamesu229]

The ballscrews will be ok, this is relatively slow. I have ran mag fadals at over 400 ipm in steel on a regular basis with no problems. The cutter path is awesome. This is the future of machining.

[@gredangeo]

I have to keep reminding myself, that this is in GODDAMN STEEL!!

[@Thefreakyfreek]

Yea all these noobs show their moves in alu this master dances in steel

[@sc0rpi0n0]

The material is steel which becomes magnetic being milled. That may explain odd behavior of the chips. Other than that, don't you see the air blower attached next to the tool? Air makes stuff jump.

[@kristoenyegahtv2399]

Beautiful, Christ is wonderful by given human such knowledge.

[@SuperSullyVision]

WHAT MACHINE IS THAT? Amazing control! Simply awesome....In response to varelaarcadio4 , machine damage is more likely to occur with unbalanced tool pressures and machine loads. The speed the machine travels at has nothing to due with damage to it. Note the tool diameters. You are not going to damage a machine that can do this kind of work with 12mm and 6mm tools running at those speeds, loads and coatings. The part material stands no chance at all....Amazing!

[@Tool1717]

Yes, you are correct. I was wrong. This is ball screw machine.

[@nochfetterermann]

The table feeds of this machine is increbible.. Is it accurate at this small and very fast movements?

[@ashrafjumaa1761]

THIS IS AMAZING HOW THE CHOOSE THE SHORT WAY AND THE FAST ONE / I LOVE SOLIDCAM

[@gmeast]

Is this presented in real-time? If so, then I'm seeing servo reversal speeds like never before. I've never seen anything like this before and I've been around machine shops (including my own) for over 40 years. I'd like to see the servos and servo drive amplifiers for the machine used in this presentation. Either way ... it's mesmerizing to watch. I've viewed it several times. Thanks for posting. gmeast

[@stonecraft745]

These rapids seem like 120 000mm/min+

[@christopherschein]

Thats what the old conventional machinists said when Mastercam came out. I learned it and made more $ than I could have as a conventional machinist. If we didn't embrace technology we would all be driving Model T Fords and have no running water in our houses

[@AlexK981]

CTX gamma by DMG can do a LOT more, considering axis, and complex part machining, this part is simple, and u need average machine for horisontal milling, complex part is different, requires a LOT more movements... i know that this isnt a lathe, but price is everything.

[@gorillam2]

What is the machining center? That must have a super fast control to keep up with all of those movements and IPM changes,.

[@CNCsBest]

I forgot to mention...Amazing video and cutting strategy.

[@sanjay.s9317]

What type of endmill used in it and what material endmill that

[@DAMIRMK]

What are the feeds and speeds used, and the ae/ap? Plus what are the material and tooling?

[@Tool1717]

Please point us all to some videos showing this same tool path using VoluMill. If you would like I can send you the solid model of this part for a direct comparison.

[@FastCNC]

On this type of videos the machine info and tools should be present.

[@millakilla]

Why? If you're a machinist you could figure it out, if you're not a machinist then you aren't going to make use of that information anyway. The machine is a 3 axis vertical mill and the tool looks like a 4 flute TiN coated solid carbide center cutting endmill. If I had to guess, to achieve this speed you want to run about 800 sfm with a load of .006 per tooth and probably about a 8-10% (of tool diameter) step over.

[@henryrollins9177]

millakilla Good info..! And sure... useless for a E&I technician like me...hahaha..! Btw, any idea of what the part could be for..? Or it could be just a demo piece?

[@lemesianosena246]

Actually it's much better for the cutter. Because of stable temperature, if coolant is used it means the cutter will be hot and cold many times thus you break the cutter from thermal shock. Best lubrication for the cutter is MQL(Minimum quantity lubrication). This does not applies for all workpiece materials.

[@mycodes21]

And what is manufacturer of the tool which is used in this process??

[@510rob]

Who selects the cutting tools with this software? The user, or the software? How much authority does the software have over forcing efficient and optimized selection of tooling?

[@oguzhancetin_mech]

how did you erase the line at 2:49 ? is there command for this at solidcam?

[@Tool1717]

We have since added better sorting in this situation.

[@CETMANx308]

Is it accurate? Most NC machines can have the speed or rapid turned up to look impressive.

[@FutureNihilist]

Did you just machine a part in dry run mode? I have witnessed the glory..

[@joelm182]

Is true , but making a path like this in Solid Cam is realy easy and fast. Rough,Rest, and finish the program calculate the fast tool path and make it, and the best is the program calculate the speed for each tool.

[@RixtronixLAB]

Like it , nice video :)

[@ashrafjumaa1761]

I WANT TO ASK YOU IN THE I MACHINING WORK TYPE THE SHORTAGE AND THE FASTEST WAY WILL GET ,BUT WHAT ABOUT THE TOOLS ? WITH SMALL ONE

[@peterlewis2057]

Virtrampage how would you machine this part??? this is pretty impressive!

[@mnoobboobs369]

sure that's cool and all, but what the finish look like, and how close tolerances?

[@ostry599]

Whats the name of this machine ? This accelerations are crazy

[@shotgunreloader4964]

even if this machine had linear motors they are attached with screws and internal components so on this kind of machining will in no uncertain terms damage the machine over time. All materials have a fatigue limit why speed up its failure.

[@Fischer977]

after this demo you can buy this machine for 30% discount

[@KyleMatthewH]

I would have to agree with you. iMachining was very nice and easy to use but I felt like it was very hard on my machine. This videos is older but I was using the 2014 version of solidcam. I have since switched to NX with the volumill addon and have had great results. I must admit that the roughing process seems to be a little bit slower but my machine sounds better and my tools are lasting a LOT longer. Furthermore NX has become a lot more user friendly over the years. Just my 2 cents.

[@millakilla]

The load on your machine is almost none when you are trochoidal milling. you will do a lot more damage to your bearings and ways by maxing out your spindle load than by using HSM tool paths. Also tools last longer when the chip load is normalized.

[@jhallpk]

what machine was this run on? judging by the high spindle speeds and rediculously high feed rates Im seeing, this must be a very expensive and capable machine

[@pellepop100]

I LOVE CNC MACHNING!!

[@mycodes21]

Can someone tell me how much is F and S on this process???This is MAHO DECKEL machine and SolidCAM right?

[@AsKInsani7y]

Have you tried iMachining in 5axis simultan. ? I dont even know if there is something like that^^. We get a new machine this week for 5x sim. and im curious :-)

[@aratitanty1448]

Konsa tool use hua he

[@Bigwingrider1800]

holly shit ,that really is a bad ass machine. nice job.

[@pellepop100]

Really ... AMAZING!!!

[@AsKInsani7y]

This is sexy , these mills sound so happy :-) Im using imachining too and its pretty good

[@Jure380]

What kind of tools are used in iMachining ? Anyone know the manufacuters of the tools which are possible to get in Europe (Slovenia). I tried with normal solid carbid endmills but it doesnt last for long.

[@Tsripper69]

The first was Surfcam, and the other only try it ;)

[@michal.gawron]

So what's exactly wrong with the tool path?

[@Tool1717]

I disagree. Take a look at the small tool towards the end of the video. If you take the same speed, feed, depth and full slot the tool will brake. What the CAM system is doing is accurately controlling the load on the tool during the cut allowing for high material removal rates. If you can provide a similar example without a CAM system please do so.

[@ลูกปู่ตากนักรบ]

i love solidcam

[@miklosmakai1690]

Hi! It's amazing! Can you give me the technology parameters? Which kind of machine, tool type, feeed rate etc. Thx

[@tansit2344]

That is a really big slice of 80/20 now haha.

[@KuroinekoShirokurononeko]

I want the machine and the tools

[@aratitanty1448]

mechining ka feed or rpm kitna he

[@abcdefgh2631]

Volumill is not the same technology, iMachining is another world. Please, take more information about it

[@squal911911]

Is the perimeter being climb milled?

[@DeathTrooperA001]

+Steven James Yes

[@squal911911]

+DeathTrooperA001 Why?

[@DeathTrooperA001]

+Steven James the tool path is clockwise around the part

[@furqanahmed123]

can any one tell me how to calculate RPM and feed and D.O.C. thanx

[@Exstremrc]

Hi... How strong is this spindel and how much rpm are you millingon at first stage in first part of the video here?

[@AlexK981]

What steel exactly?

[@Gerhardter]

This video is more about what the machine can do with the tools, not what the CAM system does...

[@ИгорьАнтонов-ю4м]

Cutting data, machine model pls.

[@jonjon3829]

those are some really bizzare movements,

[@ba.se.ba.se.9356]

Welche Maschine ist das? what Type of Maschine is it?

[@capnthepeafarmer]

Looks like someone needs to do a tap test. There is some chatter on the bottom edge of the cuts

[@toddlittleton199]

Brilliant

[@Tool1717]

Because this machine has linear motors not ball screws :)

[@virtualdevil1991]

DATRON?

[@marcelstegmann7735]

sure not!

[@arthurstacey2730]

it was a good video but I'd like to see what your just milled out showing it's purpose

[@Tool1717]

This is not sped up. Actual time.

[@dejanmavija]

What is the name of tools? Mitsubishi, seco...?? what?? :)

[@ydna]

Reading the comments for this video is like bashing your head against a wall. The last excuse for armchair machinists' refusal to machine aggressively is always that the "ballscrews" and "servos" wear out. Even when watching a video of a machine that doesn't have them.

[@Tool1717]

We are showing machining at the high end (aggressiveness). We don't expect people to machine like this all the time. Please look at other iMachining videos and do some research before deciding the technology is not beneficial to you.

[@integratedcam]

@varelaarcadio4 Actually iMachining makes sure the machine live longer!

[@Tool1717]

MasterCAM does not buy the strategy of VoluMIll. They invested and built their own strategy. (it's much better than VoluMill)

[@liyawei]

impressive

[@squiggofant]

Holex (by Hoffmann group)

[@TheValkyrie1968]

Cant believe the cutter survived wo coolant.

[@NDactylos]

many other CAM programs can create this tool path they buy the strategy of VoluMill!! They call it something else Peps - Camtek can do it Mastercam can do it One Cnc can do it Hypermill can do it Delcam can do it ........

[@squiggofant]

No, the machine is made by Müga.

[@pellepop100]

WOW!!!

5:02 star wars song :D

[@stooh500]

does that not beat the shit of the ball screws running that machine like that?

[@toddlittleton199]

I dont know what the hell everyones talking about it looks great for certain things

[@rke1968]

No that is not right - this toolpath you can only create with iMachining from SolidCAM -

[@michael2nicolaisen]

The Müga machines has ballscrews and NOT linear motors.

[@jpmorgan187]

not real time video was sped up

[@jimmyjames198131]

thats not steel, the chips arent blue, its clearly aluminum.....

[@DaMaJa85]

What you write here is not correct! iMachining is completly different to the other systems!

[@chazcam]

I'm giggling at the comments condemning this type of tool path as destructive and abusive to tooling. Really: the world really IS round! Give it a try with a quality tool and a quality machine. You might just learn something

[@toddlittleton199]

Air blowing

[@michael2nicolaisen]

The Müga machines has ballscrews.

[@milovanradenkovic6023]

I do this live....