Images of UAPs: Objects Discovered Same Day UFOs Flew Over D.C. in 1952 with Beatriz Villarroel

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Event Horizon

Event Horizon

4 ай бұрын

Not of this Earth?
On the night of July 19th, 1952 something rather strange happened on two fronts in North America. At that time, one of the most puzzling UFO flaps in history was happening in the Washington, DC area including multiple radar returns and visual sightings from people in several locations. At Mount Palomar observatory in Southern California, a pair of photographic plates were taken about one hour apart, one just before 9 pm, the other just before 10 pm local time. In these plates, one showed a cluster of three star-like points, essentially indistinguishable from stars. But in the second plate, the points had abruptly and inexplicably disappeared.
"Is there a background population of high-albedo objects in geosynchronous orbits around Earth?" Villarroel et al, 2022
arxiv.org/pdf/2204.06091.pdf
"A bright triple transient that vanished within 50 minutes" Solano et al., 2023
arxiv.org/pdf/2310.09035.pdf
"A glint in the eye: photographic plate archive searches for non-terrestrial artefacts" Villarroel et al., 2021
arxiv.org/abs/2110.15217
"Exploring nine simultaneously occurring transients on April 12th 1950" Villarroel et al., 2021
arxiv.org/abs/2106.11780
"The Vanishing & Appearing Sources during a Century of Observations project: I. USNO objects missing in modern sky surveys and follow-up observations of a "missing star"" Villarroel et al., 2019
arxiv.org/abs/1911.05068
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@allthingsparanormal4109
@allthingsparanormal4109 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking this topic seriously, you are appreciated.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 4 ай бұрын
Yes! Seriously without the goofy stuff that others eventually get bogged down in.
@1112viggo
@1112viggo 4 ай бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow Thank you for thanking us for thanking you! See you at thanksgiving.
@justinwalker4475
@justinwalker4475 4 ай бұрын
thank you@@1112viggo
@Larry-bj5hu
@Larry-bj5hu 4 ай бұрын
Look into the Chris Bledsoe story. CIA, NASA and many more spent many years with him investigating the story and agreed it to be true. They all ended up becoming close friends with him to learn more.
@midnightkaty5130
@midnightkaty5130 4 ай бұрын
This is fascinating! I knew about the UFO sighting in DC, but never knew about this telescope! Thank you for this interview!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@faizanrana2998
@faizanrana2998 4 ай бұрын
PLEASE WATCH THE ADVERTS IT REALLY HELP JON
@CalmBeforeTheStorm76
@CalmBeforeTheStorm76 4 ай бұрын
This was a completely rational, intelligent discussion. Why the greater scientific community at large is not heading full force into this, I will never understand.
@Arcgateway
@Arcgateway 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there is just one handshake from ufo to sasquatch.
@1112viggo
@1112viggo 4 ай бұрын
Because they have a long established scientific principles that goes like this "Its never aliens."
@janetkamal1421
@janetkamal1421 4 ай бұрын
There would be a number of dominoes that fell over if it were aliens, that would end up with big business religions such as the Catholic Church and Mecca in Saudi, being put into jeopardy financially. Many people would start asking questions and the likely answers would take them away from forms of hierarchical control. Also it could cause mental health problems for people who have their identity wrapped up in any particular traditional religion. Whilst I just want to know the truth, perhaps others don’t. Imagine how hard these hierarchical powers will fight to keep their position at the top!
@TonyP9279
@TonyP9279 4 ай бұрын
The scientific community only heads in full force towards the source of their grant money.
@ancientbuilds3764
@ancientbuilds3764 4 ай бұрын
I do. Because 90% of humanity has been dumbed down for easy control by corporations. And that is everyone who was not previously dumbed down by religions.
@SevenSixTwo2012
@SevenSixTwo2012 4 ай бұрын
The 1952 UFOs over DC event requires its' own episode. It was the closest we've ever seen to an "Aliens landing on the front lawn of the White House" scenario.
@Junebug60
@Junebug60 4 ай бұрын
They did that basically to flip off Dwight and the American government and say you may not sign our agreement but we can fly where ever we want even through Your no fly zone.
@stadex4203
@stadex4203 4 ай бұрын
Flying over Washington DC means that they investigated us to the point of understanding the political system. It was a huge hello to everybody. The secrecy around this subject is not from the aliens, it's from the US military industrial complex, and not just the USA, Russia must know, China must know, any nation with an advanced space capability will be aware of what is going on.
@xjohnny1000
@xjohnny1000 4 ай бұрын
Beatriz does great work and she recently made an appearance at the SOL conference. Glad she's getting involved in the UAP mystery and doing solid research.
@beatrizvillarroel3337
@beatrizvillarroel3337 4 ай бұрын
Your kind words are very dearly appreciated.
@zackc3368
@zackc3368 4 ай бұрын
Aww she replied too 😍
@cyphermote6857
@cyphermote6857 4 ай бұрын
@@beatrizvillarroel3337 Hi Beatriz, if the triangulation method analysis proved that the transients were indeed Earth orbit transients, will there still be serious investigations into trying to determining what these are - i.e. multiple objects that are capable of producing high intensity light continuously and appear to work together? I am most curious to know if they are being linked to similar objects that are often spotted in low orbit and visible to the naked eye (and most likely classified as UAPs). Ignoring flight and other anomalies, I am curious about their ability to produce continuous, intense light.
@EyePropsStudios
@EyePropsStudios 4 ай бұрын
As a person that sometimes suffers from stress this channel is instantly calming in mood and content interesting to me. Especially the opening title / music.
@docwhiskey996
@docwhiskey996 4 ай бұрын
I'm always grateful to see my favorite channel cover this topic in particular and this 70+ year old mystery.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you for watching.
@jediknight73
@jediknight73 4 ай бұрын
Ditto ❤
@Apsaraia
@Apsaraia 4 ай бұрын
I commend scientists like her, that are willing to push the envlope and actually look into anomalies despite social stigma and barriers.
@Nadadinho
@Nadadinho 4 ай бұрын
There was a Swedish UFO-event 1952 two months prior to the Washington one. A lot of similarities between the two. Depicted in the memoirs of the aviator Uno Ranch.
@Nadadinho
@Nadadinho 4 ай бұрын
Ran it through translate so it might be a few errors. ”It happened on the evening of Wednesday, March 12, 1952. Together with then traffic controller Berndt Norin, I had taken off from Torslanda with SE-AUR for a short night flight over the Borås tract. The weather was gloriously beautiful with excellent visibility. We went at an altitude of about 2,000 meters. When we returned to Gothenburg after just under an hour, we announced to the tower at Torslanda that we intended to maintain the height and make a few laps over the city to look at all the lights that, like a giant piece of jewelry, glittered and glimmered down there in the depths of the crystal clear evening. Suddenly I saw some points of light moving quite slowly, estimated to be a few hundred meters diagonally below us. - Look! I said to my friend Berndt. There are a couple of planes below us in the direction of Säve. - Yes, I see them, Berndt retorted, but it was strange, the position lights are reversed and it seems that they hardly have any wings! I immediately contacted Torslandatornet and asked if there were any military aircraft up at this relatively late time point. A few minutes later I received a reply that the Air Force had no planes in the air over western Götaland and that there was no other known traffic either. My response was: - It sounds strange because we see them both! We remained above the city and watched with interest the alien planes circling obliquely below us. Suddenly they stood completely still for a minute or so, after which they set off at a completely incredible speed on a northeasterly course in the direction of Trollhättan. - It wasn't without the fact that what we have just seen seems a little eerie, I said, who had a vivid memory of the great bombing offensive against Germany in 1944 when over a thousand bombers swept in waves over the Swedish west coast minutes after I landed on Torslanda after a night flight for the anti-aircraft batteries in the Gothenburg region. - It's probably best that we go back home as soon as possible...”
@AnonymousBosch3158
@AnonymousBosch3158 4 ай бұрын
@@Nadadinho Is it a book?
@Nadadinho
@Nadadinho 4 ай бұрын
@@AnonymousBosch3158Yep, a collection of anecdotes from his life more or less.
@AnonymousBosch3158
@AnonymousBosch3158 4 ай бұрын
​@@NadadinhoDo you have the name?
@MidnightLight.
@MidnightLight. 4 ай бұрын
Great topic, guys - glad you are covering it!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@carlucioleite
@carlucioleite 4 ай бұрын
Cat at the end: This interview is over.
@AnthonyGiallourakis
@AnthonyGiallourakis 4 ай бұрын
If I could only watch/listen to four channels (on KZbin) like when I was a kid (the 60"s), this would most certainly be one of them. John, you are the PBS of my childhood and on behalf of all of us, we thank you for your public service.
@slidecatch
@slidecatch 4 ай бұрын
Awesome interview! The fact that the exposure was 50 minutes also rules out any sort of top secret pre-Sputnik Sputnik, spy planes, debris in orbit, etc. Any of those things would have left streaks, not star-like spots. Of course, as a novelist, my overactive imagination leaps to alien warp drives taking off at a high rate of speed away from earth as fast as possible. Perhaps they took one look at our politics and immediately warped away.
@SuperBroncosguy
@SuperBroncosguy 4 ай бұрын
Overactive imagination is why we have Star Trek. Keep going!
@ZeroOneInfinity
@ZeroOneInfinity 4 ай бұрын
@@SuperBroncosguy Reverse engineering the Roswell craft is why we suddenly have all these futuristic electronic components and gadgets, keep on pretending we are alone in the universe.
@laurencemoore8519
@laurencemoore8519 4 ай бұрын
One of my favourite guests, and she likes cats so must be a decent intelligent person. I find her takes not only insightful and knowledgeable but also down to Earth and full of common sense and I love her views on science. I also like how concise she is. When asked a question she gives a straight answer and doesn`t talk non stop for literally 6-7 minutes without pausing for breath like a few of your guests. This was a very interesting discussion and i hope she gets the required funding for her projects. I have a feeling that long term her work will yield significant results and look forward to a future interview. I also take it her cat was hungry and rattling the food bowl. More pleaase.
@SuperBroncosguy
@SuperBroncosguy 4 ай бұрын
I always pay attention to the way my cat acts around new people. My blind dog knows good from bad too!
@satanicmicrochipv5656
@satanicmicrochipv5656 4 ай бұрын
I had a dream where my dog was explaining quantum mechanics over coffee and a cigarette. When I woke up I told him that if he was going to smoke he'd have to do it in the garage.
@user-iu4lv7kk2h
@user-iu4lv7kk2h 4 ай бұрын
Linda Moulton Howe?
@atypical1000
@atypical1000 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Villaroel does really interesting work that I always love catching up on, but she is also one of the sweetest and most down to earth guests on this show.
@beatrizvillarroel3337
@beatrizvillarroel3337 4 ай бұрын
I very much appreciate your very kind words, thank you. My cat sends her kindest greetings (and asks for a tuna can).
@PEPPERS777
@PEPPERS777 4 ай бұрын
Just feel like sharing this personal experience. Something like 10 years ago, we were out in a small forest, drinking, smoking, eating. We found a nice open spot to play some chess by moon light. Next to the moon there was a very, very bright star. Right next to it. I thought nothing much of it at first, just glancing up every so often. It was stationary for what i think was hours. Then, when i was looking at it, it slowly moved in a straight line for a second, then faded out. I pointed it out and we all shared a good discussion about the subject. It always stuck with me because it's (in my limited understanding) not a natural movement. If anyone took the time to read this comment, what object could behave like this? I felt like sharing this because i recently found out that one of the people i was with, one of my best friends, passed away. We had many good talks involving this subject, and much more. We also saw a massive meteor burn up many years later, which was well fascinating. Thanks, Valentin, and rest in peace. Maybe one day we'll have good talks again.
@robonearth5533
@robonearth5533 4 ай бұрын
Great talk and great find on the photographic plates. I'm glad to hear Beatriz Villarroel is continuing to look for transients simultaneously from multiple locations. We won't find anything if we don't look.
@stadex4203
@stadex4203 4 ай бұрын
The UFO/UAP that people and even military people and radar keep seeing since decades must be travelling to Earth somehow, the transient UFO theory would fit into this. If an intelligent civilization sent probes or actual craft with pilots it would make sense to send multiple in case one breaks down or something unforseen happens. It is a damn shame that many scientists refuse to take the possibility of alien visitation into serious consideration because of fear of ridicule or other biases. If aliens exist then we are also aliens to them.
@beatrizvillarroel3337
@beatrizvillarroel3337 4 ай бұрын
Agreed -- we have to keep searching. Who knows what else we will figure out... :)
@patrowan7206
@patrowan7206 4 ай бұрын
I and several friends once witnessed a transient star together in real time. Mesmerized by the pristine dark skies in Baxter State Park in northern Maine, we were focused on an opening between the patchy clouds above us when watched a star grew from dim to bright and then dim again before disappearing. It was stationary relative to the surrounding stars. My guess then, as now, is that we caught a straight-on view of an incoming meteor -- a perfect alignment that I have never seen again in many decades of stargazing.
@rogerwilco1777
@rogerwilco1777 4 ай бұрын
I saw something similar in Ohio.. I was driving on a highway at night I started seeing 'stars' that would get really bright and 'big'.. not as big as a full moon, but one got about half the size of the full moon.. Basically a stationary 'star' would flare up for about 10 seconds or so, then dim back out.. but then another star in another patch of the sky would do the same.. it happened about a dozen times over a few min stretch.. and I wasnt the only one, several cars pulled over along the highway to watch this as well.. never really figured it out?
@JWisemanMusic
@JWisemanMusic 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has been fascinated by the UFO enigma for the past 4 or 5 years I'm really glad a channel like this is covering history on this subject that has seemingly forgotten. Study of this history clearly shows us UAPs are not a Psy op and not the technology of a foreign power.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
It is truly an impossible to reexamine the immense amount of history in this subject, but when something like new data presents itself then we will cover it.
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 4 ай бұрын
How can you be sure it's not a psy-op? It looks like one to me.
@JohnMichaelGodier
@JohnMichaelGodier 4 ай бұрын
@@bozo5632 It could well be a psy-op. That's firmly on the table. But if it is, they've kept it up for over 70 years which is worthy of discussion in its own right.
@kms08711
@kms08711 4 ай бұрын
​@@bozo5632more like a psyop against ufo not for it How do you explain papua new guinea,zimbabwe sightings?
@JWisemanMusic
@JWisemanMusic 4 ай бұрын
@bozo5632 then it's the most complicated psy op spanning 80 - 90 years. And for what reason? A psy op spanning that length would have to have foresight into factors of today that could never have been predicted. That is more a conspiracy than it being aliens in my opinion.
@PlanetXMysteries-pj9nm
@PlanetXMysteries-pj9nm 4 ай бұрын
I can't thank you enough for unraveling the secrets of the universe through your videos. Your dedication to spreading knowledge is truly admirable.
@alanheadrick7997
@alanheadrick7997 4 ай бұрын
Finally she's back!!! I was hoping she went back and looked at the very old plates. But this was still very interesting.
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 4 ай бұрын
For myself this 1952 finding "appears" to be more tangible (albeit also unexplained) than the WOW signal. It is an incentive to evaluate more existing archived data
@exoexpansion
@exoexpansion 4 ай бұрын
This is amazing and I am very happy for Dr. Villaroel for this fantastic discovery. The time association to the 1952 incredible UFO event in DC is blowing my mind and I don't know if i should cry or laugh because this can be an incredible discovery and the proof we all need. Bravo!! ⭐
@Nethershaw
@Nethershaw 4 ай бұрын
I never laughed so hard during an interview than when that pan fell down -- because I know. I know. 😺
@jaywatanabe4706
@jaywatanabe4706 4 ай бұрын
The Van Neumann Cat!
@theprofessor3339
@theprofessor3339 4 ай бұрын
I love your channel, and have had a deep interest in UFOs for some time. I knew you were too rigorous to leave this topic after you posted your first video on it. Welcome to the rabbit hole
@user-xu3wo1sf8b
@user-xu3wo1sf8b 4 ай бұрын
There was a motion picture made about the fly-over of Flying Saucers in the summer of 1952. The film seems to have disappeared from public access. What makes the movie an important document is that the actors play themselves as they experience the Flying Saucers fly-over Washington, DC . A well-known newspaper reporter named AL Chopp narrates the film as he personally experienced the fly.over of Flying Saucers. President Truman sent jets to prosue and shoot. A jet reportedly shot a piece off the craft that was analyzed pure magnesium. The movie does not seem to be available to the public and even Mr. AL Chopp's name seems to have disappeared from the public record.
@jayteknica1175
@jayteknica1175 4 ай бұрын
I question the pure magnesium claim because pure magnesium is softer than aluminum and its powder is flammable. It doesn’t seem like a good choice for a space ship and definitely not one that can survive entry into atmosphere.
@annunacky4463
@annunacky4463 4 ай бұрын
@@jayteknica1175could be an isotope of Magnesium. Some isotopes act quite different from the natural atoms. I dunno.
@ProblemChild-xk7ix
@ProblemChild-xk7ix 4 ай бұрын
You are assuming that it experiences friction entering the atmosphere. It appears there is a different physics involved with these craft.
@jayteknica1175
@jayteknica1175 4 ай бұрын
@@ProblemChild-xk7ix perhaps, but then if different physics are involved I question if our conventional weapons would be able to shoot a piece off?
@richiegaming1536
@richiegaming1536 4 ай бұрын
Won't allow to subscribe
@tedbomba6631
@tedbomba6631 4 ай бұрын
This was my first visit to your channel, but it certainly won't be my last ! I'm going to need to view past programs to try to catch up with you and it will be a pleasure to do so. Thanks so much for the work you do.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Glad you found us. You have a lot of great videos to watch.
@M_Pulse
@M_Pulse 4 ай бұрын
One of the best channels on KZbin!
@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627
@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627 4 ай бұрын
Good luck catching up
@blyatcraft
@blyatcraft 4 ай бұрын
@@M_Pulse I agree. Definitely one of the best channels, if not the best. In my opinion Godier is on a tied first place with Isaac Arthur
@markmacdonald6036
@markmacdonald6036 4 ай бұрын
Hope you've got the next year free to catch up on great content!
@chrisk1208
@chrisk1208 4 ай бұрын
This is my 90s X-files obsession coming true
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Mulder and Scully!
@CessnaPilot99
@CessnaPilot99 4 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to see publishing scientists talk about uaps more often recently like this ...thank you John Michael, by helping to reduce the stigma in some small way
@jimsubtle886
@jimsubtle886 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for jumping on this topic and making videos so quickly. Thank you!!
@PeakyBlinder71
@PeakyBlinder71 4 ай бұрын
Dr Beatriz is my favorite guest. I love the chemistry between John & Dr Beatriz aswell.😜
@jonessboness
@jonessboness 4 ай бұрын
There was a film of the actual ufos going over the capitol building taken at the time they did. I have seen this video several times and it used to be available for years on KZbin. But for some reason it is gone now and not one supposed special show on this subject shows the original video. It can't be that hard to find. I wish I would have saved it off line on a hard drive so I could up load it for every one to view.
@stinkfloyd1
@stinkfloyd1 4 ай бұрын
THIS IS FASCINATING!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Isn’t it?
@andrewlanning7477
@andrewlanning7477 4 ай бұрын
Love that you bring light to this subject. Thank you!
@jamesolivier5224
@jamesolivier5224 4 ай бұрын
Terrific stuff. Love these shows. Thanks for your work.
@theobservationsreal3291
@theobservationsreal3291 4 ай бұрын
This was amazing thanks for the effort 👍
@Pacer...
@Pacer... 4 ай бұрын
Great content John 👌
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594
@creepyunicornwithlazers3594 4 ай бұрын
Huh, i knew about the UAPs over DC, but I had never heard about the Palomar plates. Today I learned. Thanks!
@quantumfoam539
@quantumfoam539 4 ай бұрын
I was trying to sleep. Then I felt into an Event Horizon.
@Voshchronos
@Voshchronos 4 ай бұрын
Wow, really incredible conversation. I love Dr. Beatriz!
@friendlyone2706
@friendlyone2706 4 ай бұрын
Very Thought provoking. Thank you. Looking forward to Beatriz's next visit.
@bakfixx
@bakfixx 4 ай бұрын
Beatriz deserves to go down in History as the scientist that provided absolute proof of non-terrestrial technology...
@bjjan8592
@bjjan8592 4 ай бұрын
Great guest! Thank you so much
@lance7607
@lance7607 4 ай бұрын
This was fascinating, right up to the point her cat gave me a heart attack and sent my soul to Valhalla. I loved seti@home but I always felt that it was an inadequate means of searching. I'm glad to see more creative and potentially more fruitful approaches being looked into, and I'm especially glad that these phenomena--whatever they may be--are finally being taken more seriously. I wish they'd hurry up and figure out how to expand the human lifespan indefinitely so I can stick around to see how all this turns out.
@brad4231
@brad4231 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don’t think lifespan is the problem. This phenomenon is much more advanced and probably lives on a higher dimensional plane. And if life can exist there, so can…planets?
@worldwideroach
@worldwideroach 4 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable episode John. It left me wanting more.
@awaitingaliens7664
@awaitingaliens7664 4 ай бұрын
Excellent find! Another cool mystery ❤
@ianbell8701
@ianbell8701 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating interview. Thank you.
@ukraine7249
@ukraine7249 4 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this!!!!! Yes!!!!!! 🙌
@tonyportcullis488
@tonyportcullis488 4 ай бұрын
Space is so cool. Glad im living in a time where the mysteries of the universe are at our fingertips. Interesting to watch it unfold before us. Thank you for the video.
@Bitchslapper316
@Bitchslapper316 4 ай бұрын
Great episode, I hope you have her back again soon.
@RawLu.
@RawLu. 4 ай бұрын
These are the videos I live for from you John TY 😉
@johndoughcrypto9688
@johndoughcrypto9688 4 ай бұрын
New viewer and subscriber, great video !
@pjsebadoh5412
@pjsebadoh5412 4 ай бұрын
This was a awesome frakking show! I had to listen 3 or 4 times to absorb the ramifications! Excellent stuff folks✌️
@TSOP2020
@TSOP2020 4 ай бұрын
Such a beautifully intelligent human being. Great guest
@DarrenNugent-md4kd
@DarrenNugent-md4kd 4 ай бұрын
The scientific community is fascinating and the old plates provide an insight into an age long past and should be investigated more for anomalies we may have missed great guest great minds😊❤
@marylousherman5471
@marylousherman5471 4 ай бұрын
Happy Solstice this evening! Looking forward to longer days👽😼
@jimmywrangles
@jimmywrangles 4 ай бұрын
Excellent interview.
@StevenBara
@StevenBara 4 ай бұрын
So it can't be something in front of these 3 stars that usually blocks our visibility of them. But very rarely there's some event so that this object temporarily doesn't block them from our point of view. But yeah 1952 isn't that old to rule out early space tech testing. Officially the first high altitude nuke was only six years later at 1958. Nuking in high altitudes spreading some material that interferes over very wide areas. And I think the high altitude effects are also probably not well understood anyway.
@fyhaskamdig
@fyhaskamdig 4 ай бұрын
Very good video! Thank you.
@travisjohnson622
@travisjohnson622 4 ай бұрын
I've been following this story. All I can say is GOT EM!!! Those people out there who are just hell bent and adamant on disregarding the UAP phenomenon, Scoffing at the possibility even... You got em! Its going to be hard as hell for these people to shrug this case off, or to explain away. If ever there was a list: top instances of most convincing "evidence". Add this one to it. It will be remembered and studied for years to come I imagine.
@Demane69
@Demane69 4 ай бұрын
"Hell bent"? Or merely people demanding proper, unbiased and repeatable testing without leaping to conclusions first? The vast majority of replies and vocal opinions appear to be from those insisting it's "aliens". This is similar to archeology, where people leap to conclusions of previous high tech and advanced civilizations with near total ignorance of current, and evolving knowledge. The "It must be alien!" crowd is the largest detriment to UAP research, because any all evidence must support their theory. That is bad science. It was mentioned in this video that stars don't blink in and out of existence right? Well, it's light we see and anything past that is an assumption. Being a start is an assumption. Perhaps many things blink from visible to not visible light but our current, image based observations do not observe enough of it to determine frequency. The Vera C. Rubin Observatory could enlighten us to the actually reality. Until then, we are mostly guessing without the capacity to test. Again, that is bad science.
@phillip6083
@phillip6083 4 ай бұрын
As to lensing.... If its a black hole leasing...how fast would it need to be traveling to cease all lensing in one hour? I'm no scientist but seems an hour is a very short period of time to completely pass out of the area of optical lensing.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 ай бұрын
Really fantastic interview, John! Thanks a bunch!!! 😃 We need to stop judging so much and just do science, doesn't matter the results! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊 And happy holidays!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Happy holidays!
@grahamrobson9292
@grahamrobson9292 4 ай бұрын
Super interesting interview
@135john135
@135john135 4 ай бұрын
Great subject awesome guest great minds thinking out of the box
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 4 ай бұрын
Presumably AI is going to be very useful in conducting comparisons to pinpoint transient anomalies from other archived space photography
@dantess2693
@dantess2693 4 ай бұрын
One of my favorite episodes!
@dimebagv3307
@dimebagv3307 4 ай бұрын
really enjoyable chat.
@edgarcastrobathen8094
@edgarcastrobathen8094 4 ай бұрын
Beatriz is a great interlocutor of yours, I am with her and love her perspective of the Universe.
@karinacolonLA
@karinacolonLA 4 ай бұрын
One month after Portal Opener and Father of Rocketry and JPL, Jack Parsons passed...
@davidschaftenaar6530
@davidschaftenaar6530 11 күн бұрын
Dr. Villarroel is delightful! ☺️ Also a very interesting topic and the way the two of you carried out this discussion was quite grounded. Discussion about things relating to UAPs usually doesn't go down that way elsewhere and I believe that's a large part of why the stigma exists. Having just said that, let me now engage in some largely baseless speculation myself: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we _were_ visited once every few centuries or so by some kind of 'anthropological survey mission'. Given how long humanity spent as hunter gatherers and how technology has progressed exponentially since the invention of agriculture: I suspect this transitional stage between "basically smart animals" and "space faring civilization with a complete understanding of physics" might be very, very shortlived. Coupled with the notion of intelligent life being already quite scarce in and of itself, that would mean humanity currently presents an exceedingly rare, brief opportunity to watch a special event unfold that another intelligent civilization might never see again throughout it's lifespan. Some might say that'd be well worth a journey of several lightyears.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann 4 ай бұрын
....interesting interview😎
@justinwalker4475
@justinwalker4475 4 ай бұрын
tnx for that doc
@justinwalker4475
@justinwalker4475 4 ай бұрын
dam there shiny
@Pancerniak2093
@Pancerniak2093 4 ай бұрын
Interesting interview. Greetings :)
@20july1944
@20july1944 4 ай бұрын
I suggest you stack this video with your other vid a few days later about the Palomar transient and preface both with a short preface or summary
@CSOne_
@CSOne_ 4 ай бұрын
So Good!
@thefloorhasgone
@thefloorhasgone 4 ай бұрын
Most exciting astronomy project I can think of. Can't wait to see what they find.
@omnijack
@omnijack 4 ай бұрын
Kinetic cats are a well-known issue of teleconferencing
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
They are the ultimate NHI
@liberteus
@liberteus 4 ай бұрын
The exchange about the cats is so wholesome!
@blyatcraft
@blyatcraft 4 ай бұрын
Definitely my favorite guest and episode so far. She is good at explaining things very clearly and easy to understand. Also very open minded. Thank you for the episode!
@That_dude_who_knows_some_stuff
@That_dude_who_knows_some_stuff 4 ай бұрын
Hello!! I live in the DC metro area, in 2020 during the lockdowns Washington DC had the DC lights return. It is extra terrestrial intelligence
@superbwater78
@superbwater78 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why taxpayers don't question NASA more than they do. They don't do unedited live feeds anymore, not transparent at all. Humanity deserves better.
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 4 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they question it as MUCH as they do.
@jediknight73
@jediknight73 4 ай бұрын
If there is a conspiracy by governments to hide NHI . absolutely I'm sure NASA can't be totally trusted. Makes me wonder all those videos of weird UFO like objects in space station or surface of Mars and the moon may very well be more than "ice particles"?😂
@iamcowhearmemoo2553
@iamcowhearmemoo2553 4 ай бұрын
Maybe because truth matters, and we have a right to know what is being done in our name with our tax money?
@saidethecat1463
@saidethecat1463 4 ай бұрын
@bozo5632 because they're funded by taxpayer money, and we have a right to know how our money is being used.
@barrettl2473
@barrettl2473 4 ай бұрын
Taxes are just a display of national obedience you have no authority over the government for paying them 15k a year or whatever they are spending 10 times the amount you’re paying in taxes by issuing debt..
@johnjacquard863
@johnjacquard863 4 ай бұрын
fantastic!
@theoptimisticskeptic
@theoptimisticskeptic 4 ай бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating work! I keep thinking as our telescopes and tech gets better and more sensitive, the more busy the universe is going to seem to be. We may find drive flares all over the place as that's what that image from July 1952 reminds me of, three ships reverse-burning their drives to slow down on approach to the Earth. On the other hand, they could be like N6946-BH1 and directly collapsed into black holes without going supernova first. But it'd be damn strange to see three of them at once. Maybe it was a 3 star system and the other 2 stars were eaten\destroyed in the collapse of the 3rd? Seems like a stretch though.
@Edward-om8mz
@Edward-om8mz 4 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT
@Starfishtroopers
@Starfishtroopers 4 ай бұрын
Exciting research finally they are looking instead of dismissing the UAP phenomenon.
@xanderunderwoods3363
@xanderunderwoods3363 4 ай бұрын
I love these podcasts ❤
@jasonmcghee1266
@jasonmcghee1266 4 ай бұрын
These videos get better and better! Could it be the objects were crap thrown into the atmosphere by a nuclear blast? I tend to think not. I bet this was the real deal!
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Highly unlikely. John has looked into it, I’ll have to ask him to respond.
@ukraine7249
@ukraine7249 4 ай бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow is that you Anna? If so do you fancy a date?
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 4 ай бұрын
Atmospheric crap would be moving. And wouldn't be as bright as a star.
@franklin519
@franklin519 4 ай бұрын
I've read somewhere that a cover plate was blasted at escape velocity from an underground nuke test. The camera caught a pic of it but it was on only one frame so it was moving fast. They calculated that it was going at escape velocity. Interesting story.
@jediknight73
@jediknight73 4 ай бұрын
Imagine this is real i wonder😮 how big a NHI ship could be? Probably Miles in diameter 😮
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 4 ай бұрын
Your voice is so soothing
@armchairgravy8224
@armchairgravy8224 4 ай бұрын
The more we look at the universe the weirder it gets and I love it.
@philiptruitt
@philiptruitt 4 ай бұрын
Thanks folks!
@e.h.4933
@e.h.4933 4 ай бұрын
I remember the first interview about this. I'm just blown away they found this AND that it correlates to the events in DC. That is probably not considered proof by scientific standards but the correlation....
@chayophan3078
@chayophan3078 4 ай бұрын
For accuracy's sake, I feel it necessary to mention that the correlation really isn't as strong as most here seem to believe. The first sightings of the DC UFO wave began nearly 19 hours after the Palomar triple transient photo was taken. While this is close enough in time to merit closer attention, it is far from being the overlap that's suggested here.
@Mosoman42
@Mosoman42 4 ай бұрын
Have transients been found with modern digital photography?
@tehdii
@tehdii 4 ай бұрын
I am freshly after finishing Blindsight by Peter Watts. The DC incident has a vibe simmilar to the Fireflies incident from the book :)
@jamiethomas4079
@jamiethomas4079 4 ай бұрын
Curious, because I love looking at aerial photos, I searched the aerial photos for the area around the observatory. In a broad search outlining Los Angeles down past San Diego, there were high alititude planes in the area around that time. There are photos from July 15th, then more on the 23rd, 1952. If I expanded the search to a larger area there may have very well been planes flying on that day taking aerial imagery. Is it possible any of these could have caused the transients? I don't know much about planes, but this is in the description for the aerial photos. "Aerial Photographs were acquired by a variety of government agencies and the military. Aircraft used to collect these photos include General Dynamic's WB-57F; Lockheed C-130B and NP-3A aircraft; Lockheed U-2s and Convair 990 aircraft; and other commercial aircraft. Cameras used on past missions include Zeiss, Hasselblad EL 500, Wild Heerbrugg RC8, and Chicago Aerial KA 62"
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Good idea but a plane of multiple planes would’ve made streaks on the plate as the exposure was for 50 minutes.
@jamiethomas4079
@jamiethomas4079 4 ай бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow My mistake. I thought they were just 50 mins apart, not 50 min exposures. It’s still best to explore any and all possibilities. Love the show :)
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 4 ай бұрын
Unless im totally wrong, i remember this topic being discussed a year or two ago and the interviewee (possible this same person) said they were checking into other sources of plates to compare, etc. I wonder what the hold up is? Seems like a pretty straightforward thing to do.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
This is the result of checking other plates. New transients.
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 4 ай бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow ohhhh no way! This is awesome. I thought it was discussing the same thing as last time. I guess the previous discovery was those other 9, correct? Thanks for the reply, love the show!
@EinsteinsHair
@EinsteinsHair 4 ай бұрын
She said something about Harvard making access to their collection difficult. Also, I imagine it is one thing if a researcher wants access to all plates of a particular star. It may be quite another thing to want to go fishing through the entire collection of fragile, irreplaceable, historical glass plates.
@blakeb9964
@blakeb9964 4 ай бұрын
@@EinsteinsHair they should digitize all of them.
@QT5656
@QT5656 4 ай бұрын
Super interesting.
@pedrosura
@pedrosura 4 ай бұрын
Last night, coming from West to East, a bunch of airliners saw a bunch of lights. They were not satellites. We asked ATC. They said “probably Starlink” to which we said “they are not satellites.. it was interestinng
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow 4 ай бұрын
Link?
@pedrosura
@pedrosura 4 ай бұрын
@@EventHorizonShow I was flying. I am not making any reports. Dont see a reason to. 3:30 am EST Chicago Center.
@Dblaron43
@Dblaron43 4 ай бұрын
IMO this is why Ryan Graves' work is so important; creating a non-stigmatized way for pilots to report anomalous events without the stigma that comes with making such reports without jeopardizing someone's career.
@pedrosura
@pedrosura 4 ай бұрын
@@Dblaron43 I read that there was an ammendment that was shut down recently to make this public. My take is that, this is all being tracked abd could be US assets. I am interested in Crash retrieval programs and back engineering. Face it, these are all shiny objects. Part of the reason I do not want to participate. Its time to deal with the real stuff.
@midnightkaty5130
@midnightkaty5130 4 ай бұрын
I saw comments on a couple of reddit posts in r/ufos from other pilots as well. I will try to find them!
@Mortac
@Mortac 4 ай бұрын
Great interview and I love the open-mindedness.
@baahcusegamer4530
@baahcusegamer4530 4 ай бұрын
More than just this UAP event happened in 1952. One of JMG’s older videos I watched today mentioned another in Japan
@jayburke1601
@jayburke1601 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you said it but so far I can't figure out why you feel like those lights or reflections could not have been inside of the Earth's atmosphere. If the telescope is focused outside of the Earth's atmosphere I understand that but still wouldn't have very bright light inside of Earth's atmosphere shown up?
@MouseSF
@MouseSF 4 ай бұрын
As a person with multiple repeat “experiencers” in my family I wish people would take the issue of extraterrestrial contact a little more seriously.
@satanicmicrochipv5656
@satanicmicrochipv5656 4 ай бұрын
Resistance is futile. 🚫🖖 🛸
@rsvpurgt
@rsvpurgt 4 ай бұрын
Why? Video these experiences and maybe people will take you more seriously.
@Pavel_Poluian
@Pavel_Poluian 4 ай бұрын
I understood: all this aliens are just fakes, fantasies, fairy tales and the cover legend of the special services. They mask military programs, real UFOs, flying saucers and triangles - all these are purely terrestrial technologies. First they were made in the USA, and now they have been copied both in Russia and in China. Now, in conditions of global tension, the appearance of Russian UFO-type reconnaissance vehicles near American military facilities is more than justified. But it is important to remember that this technique is secret, first used by the Americans themselves in 1947, they have been actively using UFOs for many years... But this technology, plasma propulsion panels, is still not very convenient to use. Firstly, during the operation of the high-frequency pulsed elements of the railgun, which are part of the motor panels, strong microwave radiation occurs. This (even if it is protected by a Faraday grid) has a detrimental effect on pilots. Therefore, it is impossible to constantly fly on these devices. Secondly, because of the microwave oven, it is impossible to maintain radio communication with the devices. And, thirdly, the load capacity of the devices is still small. That is why "flying saucers" are used in secret mode for espionage purposes. However, recently such a spy function has become irrelevant due to the opening of borders and the availability of new technologies (satellite tracking). I advise you to read Christopher Buckley's book "Little Green Men", which satirically tells about the secret UFO technique and the spread of misinformation about aliens and even about fake "abductions" to support the legend. K. Buckley was a speechwriter for Bush Sr., he knew many secrets. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
@Wren1
@Wren1 4 ай бұрын
I'd take it seriously if it weren't ridiculously insane.
@lloydsLegends
@lloydsLegends 4 ай бұрын
I want to hear more about the craft that was recovered in the 30s by the Italians. Seems like thats more of the origin of the modern discovery of these craft.
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