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[@babayega1717]

Great sponsor, thank you for letting me know!

[@rossmanngroup]

The LG sponsorship will remain until LG faces a larger fine from a consumer protection agency for opting you into malware-like data collection by default than I have faced from New York for not having my license number on a business card.

[@matthewobrien5925]

@@rossmanngroup Louis, I always respect (and mostly agree) with your opinions but I believe you are wrong here. When the initial supply of a product is so limited (like newly release video game consoles or tickets to live concerts/sporting events), a malicious 3rd party middleman can interject themselves between the producer & consumer by purchasing large quantities of said product for the purpose of inflated re-sales (e.g. - Ticket Scalping). The Cybertruck would definitely qualify as a product that is both "highly in-demand" and "extremely limited in supply". As such, it would be reasonable to view this fine as "anti-scalper" & thus actually = a rare example of a "pro consumer" policy in today's economy.

[@oladrolahola]

​@@matthewobrien5925 hmmmm, I guess I can see that

[@HydroHUN]

@@matthewobrien5925 Sorry, but you seemed to have completely missed the entire point of the video. This is not okay in any way, regardless of whether this is an anti-scalping measure

[@hattielankford4775]

​@@matthewobrien5925I know at least in some cases, early purchasers of big, luxury items have to actually sign a contract to not sell for Y time BEFORE they get it. They sign to get the exclusive early access. It's a gross marketing ploy, but not as wrong as today's sponsor. Aside: Why is anyone waiting for a cyber truck? What a stupid name, design, idea, producer, etc.

[@cheeseburgermonkey7104]

"You wouldn't download a car" At this point I would

[@LRM12o8]

Most people would, if it was actually just like downloading pirated media (ie, not stealing (=depriving the original owner of it), just copying without permission)

[@Macheako]

“You wouldn’t over charge your customers for products that aren’t worth it, would you?” Corporations: YAAASSSSSS 🙌

[@Stef.Cata051]

At any point I would have downloaded a car or a house

[@frtzkng]

Media guys: You wouldn't download a car Me who 3D printed a bus this morning:

[@deniswauchope3788]

If you ever read the TOS on software you bought, you'll find that you have no recourse whether the software works or not, whether it destroys your computer, collects & sells all your private data, or anything else. It's perfectly legal to sell a product that not only doesn't work, but causes you to lose everything you possess; so I reckon if those are the legal rules we are supposed to follow, then screw 'em: GO PIRATES!

[@nonotorious1467]

Dealerships are just 'official' scalpers.

[@matthewal9545]

Pirates versus Privateers!

[@ArshAZ83]

They don't call them 'stealerships' for naught.

[@sole__doubt]

I think most people are ok with that when they actually provided a service worth the extra money. They just went off the rails post rona.

[@peterdevreter]

I've seen one in the flesh here in Europe on a demonstration display. Looked cool, but that front will never get through the basic certification process here. That front end is one big razorblade for pedestrians. On the other hand I like the balls of Tesla to say "screw it" and just build the thing.

[@DHB373]

They lobbied to make it law to have to sell cars through dealerships early in the 20th century. Tesla has broken through in several states, but not all. Forced middlemen.

[@cmdrclassified]

Like Bender says, "Blackmail is such an ugly word! I prefer extortion! The "X" makes is sound cool!"

[@B-RaDD]

😅😂🤣🤣😂 I can't wait until my daughter is old enough to watch this. I hope she thinks it's funny and we can watch it together.

[@MrERLoner]

Elon approves of the X

[@D.von.N]

X gets overrated these days. Not on it anymore.

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

One of my all time favorite lines by Bender: 🎵 "I love stealin'! I love takin' things!" 🎶

[@ThatsPety]

​@@D.von.Nagreed. Certain people made it less cool now, sadly 😢

[@imnotdavidxnsx]

"today we're going to be talking about a car company" *destroys a television maker as a brief aside*

[@seferinorino6951]

Just a warm up

[@p5eudo883]

If the purpose of the no-sale agreement was to prevent scalping, they would have specified that you cannot sell the vehicle for more than your purchased it for, and possibly given an even longer time frame than a year. That would be reasonable. That solves the problem. Eliminate the profit, and you eliminate the scalping. Louis is absolutely right about their motivations.

[@Frank_inSA]

True, but in the end it would as bogus as it is now. If I own it and I can find a buyer who wants to buy it, it's not the business of these companies. Even if the buyer wants to pay the double

[@jaybomb5022]

Exactly

[@p5eudo883]

@@Frank_inSA I get what you're saying. And I would have agreed with you prior to 2019. But having seen what happened to the video card market when scalping ramped up, I think it's reasonable to have controls in place to prevent it. Allowing scalping does nothing productive. It allows people with a lot of money to get people with less money to give them more money for absolutely no value. That is not good for society. That is just exploitation. It's another way for the rich to get richer while life gets more expensive for the vast majority of people.

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@@Frank_inSA the problem is if you buy them all

[@Frank_inSA]

@@alazarbisrat1978 why is that a problem (and not even a very realistic one)? It's called business...

[@TheArklyte]

"We don't allow you to sell it because of scalpers" Then buy it back from the customer yourselves, it's still on warranty period. Oh, wait, we're not in an era where compnay owners lived through Great Depression and people burning down their offices and factories... yet.

[@marckyle5895]

Lemmy had the right idea: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZmWpWdvg9iKeKM

[@roevhaal578]

If they were actually concerned about scalpers they'd only penalize people selling for a profit.

[@carter9449]

@@roevhaal578 That's hard though because on paper they could sell it for what they paid and have another under the table payment.

[@littleshopofrandom685]

@@roevhaal578 They do. I think that's the rules. this story has a little more complexity than is being made out, although I agree with the basic sentiment and people seem to agree that this penalty is unenforceable anyway.

[@mattkrazan]

They will offer to buy it back. It's in the terms of the agreement signed when the buyer bought that horrible parody of a motor vehicle. The agreement states that the buyer needs to inform them that they do not want the vehicle anymore and provide Tesla with enough time to decide whether to buy back the vehicle from the buyer or to "allow" them to sell their vehicle to a third party. There's a bunch of language in the agreement that allows them to drop the price (based on the condition of the vehicle) in their favor to low ball the offer as well. I can only hope there will be enough people rich enough to drag this agreement through court to see if this nonsense really allows a company to force you to waive your rights as a consumer or not.

[@michaelsilberg9059]

Problem is worse than just, "We sell your data by default." It's, "You can use this convenient feature ONLY IF you agree we can sell your data".

[@badnipple]

Oh don't even start me on this! Google before didn't need to know your precise location to direct you! Now it shuts it down if you disagree. DELETE.

[@spyder001]

Microsoft also.

[@1495978707]

When you already paid for it too!

[@Zullfix]

My ASUS router does the same thing :p

[@Jose04537]

Samsung and their "personalized experience"

[@sassed12many]

Already decided to keep my 17 yo honda until the wheels fall off. Then I'll find another just like it with the wheels still on.

[@DaveBoxBG]

well if you do that your lungs will have inhaled so much carcinogenic particles that from the first one that finding a newer one with wheels on will be the least of your concerns...

[@mikldude9376]

@@DaveBoxBG carcinogenic particles ? Hmm , funny as a young bloke I worked in work shop with 20 other mechanics servicing and turning cars the old way before we had computers , points , plugs , carburettors, the whole bit , for many years after that I drove big rigs and heavy machinery, I’m retired now, and I probably had way way more of the dreaded carcinogenic particles going up my nostrils than most people …. But I live ! I’d be far far more afraid of being near an electric car on fire and breathing in 15 seconds of cooking highly toxic battery smoke .

[@xzx4696]

​@@mikldude9376 I think it might be a joke well I hope so anyways

[@lsswappedcessna]

Or just replace the hub assemblies when they start making noise, then your wheels will never fall off.

[@Mis73rRand0m]

24 YO Corolla here. I'll drive it until the engine gives up and slap another one in for like $500. I live with almost no worries of buying things I desire or need because I've never had debt other than my mortgage. Almost like being frugal is the best way to save money.

[@mianalisis]

Louis talking at 1.5x speed as normal behaviour is all I need for my week. Thank you for the video!

[@233kosta]

If the goal was to eliminate scalping, then the contract would say "You can't sell it for more than you paid for it." or "You can't sell it for more than we do." or something like that. This contract says you can't sell it full stop. And they won't buy it back from you either. At this point they're just seeing how far they can shaft people and still get away with it.

[@metallicarabbit]

Time for insurance fraud

[@johncherish7610]

That's not what the contract says, it says you agree not to sell it within the first year and that under Tesla's discretion and certain conditions they may buy it back from you. It's a contract by signing it you agree to the terms within when you buy it. If you don't agree then you are free not to sign it and buy something else. No one is twisting your arm to buy it in the first place

[@233kosta]

@@johncherish7610 Is that outlined at the front of the contract amd explained in person, or is it buried 7 pages into a document you were told to "just sign"?

[@chrisbennett9048]

@@johncherish7610 and then when they get away with it guess what? That's going to be the case with every company and they are going to extend it just like how you used to actually own the things you bought and be able to use it how you wanted after you paid for it, but companies pushed the envelope a little at a time and no one did anything and the sad thing is it's continuing to happen because of that attitude, because no matter what there are going to be people that buy it and unless there are actual repercussions then the companies aren't going to stop these practices.

[@aperinich]

what's the "it" and "they" you're talking about?

[@michaeld308]

See a patern? All I say is "you will own nothing and be happy". This is how they get to this point.

[@SkyyySi]

Not quite. The post-capitalist dystopia we're heading to is more like "You will own nothing, and you also won't be happy."

[@francodegasperi3814]

Yea still waiting for the happy part.....

[@frtzkng]

@@SkyyySi Happiness is now a subscription with additional market adjustment fees and a service fee to allow us to -provide and improve our customer service- provide and improve our tools used to adjust the market adjustment fee

[@matthewobrien5925]

Always respect Louis' opinions, but this will be the first time I will have to disagree & say that he's wrong. This fine is necessary to prevent scalpers from buying up the entire stock of a limited supply product (like PS5's on initial release or in-demand Ticketmaster concert tickets). The issue here SPECIFICALLY is that the initial stock of the product in question is so limited that the supply can be effectively cut off from the consumer by malicious scalpers. As such, this is a PRO consumer policy. Louis' reaction is entirely understandable given how consumers are being treated in virtually every other case, but is ultimately wrong here as he is failing to see how "anti-scalper" policies are actually pro-consumer.

[@Smrda1312]

​@@matthewobrien5925I have never seen anyome scalp 50 grand cars...

[@PopsSinging]

Your LG banner works. My wife was looking at getting a new TV and she pointed out a deal on an LG TV and immediately I recalled the banner on your videos first thing and said, "No, LG TV's collect data..." It imprinted the fact on my mind so there was no hesitation...lol.

[@nickk6645]

You can turn the feature off, or block it from accessing the internet in your router.

[@tacsquid]

The thing is is that any smart tv is collecting data. You have to turn it off. His point was that LG comes with it turned on even though its the most expensive option

[@MarkkuS]

​The sad thing is that all the manufacturers that dont have the option to turn it off still sell your data. Atleast thats the safe bet.

[@hks-lion]

Yeah tbh it may as well tell you to not connect your TV to the internet / use a VLAN to block what it connects to because this would cover all TVs

[@Mashamazzi]

​@@tacsquid I'm fairly certain they all come with the option turned on Otherwise, they just sell your shit and don't tell you

[@quickplayzRok]

cybertrucks look like if someone is trying to make their first game in unity and they tried to design their own assets

[@daviduribe5897]

Over here in Oakland we call them “Nazimobiles”

[@lastswordfighter]

No that distinction belongs to Volkswagen.

[@ichijofestival2576]

@@lastswordfighter These days, the highest concentration of Nazis isn't in Germany...

[@davidwhatever9041]

the cybertruck demonstrates why car companies don’t take their concept cars beyond custom one off models.

[@rambodude467]

it looks like a mini garbage truck.

[@joshuagibson2520]

Voting, bitching, the courts... None will work. We are WAY past all that silliness. You know what we have to do people. Time to get busy.

[@uis246]

Import National Razor from France

[@CalPUrnia-em6xk]

2 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV) 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

[@archerbob6847]

This is why I didn't buy a TV last time I needed one, I instead purchased a tuner off Aliexpress for 30 dollars and plugged that into my monitor and a set of external speakers... if works just as good and if I want a bigger screen I just plug it into a bigger monitor or a projector. No smart tv features ftw, no network connection, just a device to plug my antennae into and watch free to air TV only

[@alex_vee]

And no camera/microphone to spy on you

[@PlanBMarketing]

Artificial scarcity? They are trying to stop showing the MASSIVE depreciation that happens when you purchase this hunk of metal. Typically, 30-50%.

[@0LoneTech]

That's the case for cars in general. This thing has a smaller niche.

[@Donkey_Xote]

Electric cars in general depreciate MASSIVELY in the first year or so.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@0LoneTech Yes, BUT! Electric cars lose their value 3-10 times faster, there are good ICE cars that held up for decade or even more. There is no EV`s which value didnt come crashing down in 2-3 years. And not only because of battery/electric components degradation.

[@NotoriousBlake]

And plastic. Lots of plastic.

[@GoonyMclinux]

I had a Toyota truck that I sold for the same price I bought it for, not all cars are trash. 😂 ​@@0LoneTech

[@SSJfraz]

"Spineless" suggests that they want to do the right thing, but are too cowardly to do the right thing. In reality, it's something far more sinister than that. They know exactly what they're doing and it's not out of fear.

[@davidvanderklauw]

Voters are too lazy to do the right thing. Why would you expect politicians or public servants to be any better?

[@SSJfraz]

@@davidvanderklauw Voters can't do the right thing, because by voting, they're playing their part in maintaining the system that is already in place. If you think it makes any difference whether you swallow the red pill or the blue pill, then you're part of the problem for thinking that.

[@Casperski1312]

"Well, we're all going to be fucked together" Thats called class solidarity and I pray people start to fuckin realize it soon because if we dont, nothing is going to change.

[@joelfenner]

I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "We must, indeed, all get fucked together, or most assuredly, we shall all get fucked separately." I'd like to imagine that's how he actually said it, and they just wrote it down more politely.

[@tjlokkkk]

class consciousness is the path to our liberation

[@ruekurei88]

We're all gonna get fucked. People are more divided by ever by idiotic things and that works out great for people who can take advantage of that, either by politicians in power able to leverage us against them, corporations latching on to social messages for their marketing, or grifters making money off people being angry at corporations and politicians for doing such. It's divide and conquer. If people just stop and think, "wait a minute, this fucking rich assholes are taking advantage of us all and have been fucking us over forever", it'll just be like, "Umm...look, uhh, immigrants, immigrants are the REAL problem, they're taking your jobs, people say it's us investing in AI, outsourcing your jobs to cheap ass labour overseas or bringing more automation into the workplace, but it's immigrants", and people just go with that and we're still and will always be fucked.

[@ThechronocrosserII]

Problem is that we live in a "fuck you, got mine" society. I can't trust people when they think they're better than you because of what phone they have.

[@DSHK-wb5cn]

Commie

[@kitsune7919]

And it all started with Ferrari. They were one of if not the first to sue unnoffical sellers or even modifictions made to end users cars I guess in some ways the Mob never left :)

[@edwuano7]

man that closing statement about us needing to stick together is so true. we could get a lot of shit done if we could just get on the same page.

[@UnderGeorge]

Funny, they don't use same "protection" for items that actually get scalped, like tickets or gaming consoles

[@ichijofestival2576]

To be fair, Ticketmaster is pretty much the worst example of... everything? They don't want scalping dead. They themselves profit off scalping. Literally and directly.

[@UnderGeorge]

@@ichijofestival2576 Yup they don't care half of the venue is empty as long as the tickets are gone from their shop within minutes.

[@thefourhorsemen91]

Or homes that are constantly being flipped.

[@TheZeroNeonix]

​@ichijofestival2576 - They also hold a monopoly, so that people have no choice but to put up with them.

[@rodiculous9464]

I'd rather wait a few months to get the product later then let billionaire megacorps dictate what i do with a product i purchased with my own money.

[@gerthddyn]

Remember when Samsung removed their audio jack after everyone laughed at iPhone users? Yeah. Exactly.

[@etgripper]

It takes courage to remove the jack

[@zarphyx6346]

They also "laughed" at the non-removable battery and the notch. They even made and ad for that.

[@deniswauchope3788]

I have a Samsung phone, the S10+, but won't be "up"grading because I want that audio jack. It's a pity so many sheeple just have to have the latest piece of crap even if it's actually worse than the older product.

[@Smrda1312]

Or sd cards. Lol

[@nairocamilo]

​@@deniswauchope3788I scoured for my A71 because I needed the audio jack to help out in my church's sermon recording sessions!

[@webreakforsquirrel4201]

The never ending disclaimer on the bottom of the screen is my favorite.

[@dubz4828]

Man its almost like tyranny doesn't only come from the government. When corporations have unchecked power, they can be just as tyrannical.

[@freedomdude5420]

Who could of know?

[@colonialstraits1069]

All of the tyranny in America is corporate. When you eliminate governments power to regulate, the corporations take over.

[@orga7777]

Tesla, like most big businesses, have a deep connection TO government. So many subsidies and government contracts. End ALL subsidies. End ALL government support for ALL companies. End NEARLY ALL barriers of entry to get into fields (unfair licensing requirements, regulations that hurt the little guy upstart at the benefit of the established blob corporations, etc) and watch how fast all this garbage reverses when REAL competition can grow once again without government interference.

[@Manolara1]

You’d think that would have been obvious from at least the time of the United Fruit Company, where the term “banana republic” came from.

[@freedomdude5420]

@@dubz4828 we are still felling the effects of this today, no one wants to listen and research.

[@YensR]

The anti-scalping reason is so absurd - if they actually wanted to protect consumers, they could just say that you are not allowed to sell it for more than the retail price.

[@ellicesanchez3194]

too simple of a solution...

[@Aldenfenris]

@@ellicesanchez3194 But then they can't extort people, or stop them from selling for LESS than 50 grand, thus inflating the price. After all, if buyers suddenly begin to sell the car for cheap because it sucks, it brings down the 'perceived price' of the car

[@metallicarabbit]

They shouldn't be able to tell you that either you can ask for whatever you want for a vehicle it doesn't mean you'll get it but you should be able to

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Playing devils advocate they could argue that someone might sell it for less and then take a stack of cash on the side. But I agree you should be able to do what you want with your vehicle including selling it for whatever price someone will buy it for.

[@thomasrial4444]

Anti scalping is easy just don’t sell more than 1 to the buyer. You as a corporation can do that

[@ivanangelov8825]

Now I can afford a new car, but it's not only the plummeting quality, but this shit also keeps me from buying a new car.

[@markcab2055]

That is why Im keeping my old cars and just repair them.

[@deniswauchope3788]

I'm thinking of getting a Lexus myself- from the 1998 to 2004 era. They're luxurious, solid, they last for hundreds of thousands of miles, most things can be repaired by a home handyman- and _they don't call home to the mothership!_

[@ambiarock590]

I;m running my 2022 Civic until it explodes. I also like using bikes for shorter trips to further extend the life of my Civic

[@telih]

@@deniswauchope3788 no critical safety features like blind spot monitoring and rear cross traffic alert. And no openpilot support for long road trips.

[@greebj]

Keeping my 90's BMWs going is fun. I'm motivated to keep them going by the feeling of "fk u" I get everytime I fix something for almost zero dollars. They'll be worthless for the enthusiast crowd who drool over stupid stuff like the BMW genuine logo and part number with the DIY fixes I do, if I ever went to sell it. Whatever. It's a tool with a job to do, not a monument to ego, or an appliance or an investment

[@CanicusMotors]

A car that doesn't even deliver on almost any of it's promises. You can't even return it. A. Big. Fat. Scam.

[@greebj]

A scam for which the CEO and not-Founder of the Company wants to get paid $46 billion dollars (for comparison, that's around half the current asset value of the entire company, and half of all the net profit TSLA has ever made). Mmmkay

[@xnitropunkx]

Elon musk is the best turd polisher in the business

[@AstolfoGayming]

The worst part is that I can absolutely understand the reasoning they give. Don't allow him to sell it to others to eliminate scalping, sure, whatever. But then why aren't you buying it back? Why aren't you letting people do a test drive?

[@HowdyHowdy_]

Best sponsor segment on the platform, thanks for your diligence Louis 👍

[@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr]

supply and demand: supply goes down: raise the price demand goes up: raise the price supply goes up: raise the price demand goes down: raise the price

[@AngstG]

Central banks contribute to this greatly....

[@Trahloc]

If people keep buying it ... That is how demand works. Buy a competitor and they'll get the signal just like you'll get the signal when your neighbor keeps buying it at the increased prices.

[@JohnNeo19]

@@Trahlocexcept for the fact that car companies have transitioned to selling less vehicles that are more expensive. People like you and me are no longer their target market, genuinely rich people are. In today’s world if we stop buying the product they will just transition to sell the product to someone else and then if they can’t they will get government bailouts. Supply and demand doesn’t really apply in its traditional sense to the car market, mainly because of government intervention and regulations.

[@hubertnnn]

@@JohnNeo19 Their intended market is Europe, cose in US you can just make your own car and register it, but in Europe registering a self made car costs around half a million dollars so we have to either take what they give or not have a car at all.

[@Praisethesunson]

​@@JohnNeo19brother Ferrari pulls this same BS. A $200,000 car can brick itself if it thinks you dared to put unlicensed third party parts. Or it can brick itself if it is in an underground parking garage and can't phone home.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Louis: I don't like it when women make demands about what car you have or don't have. *Man comes home with a Cybertruck, woman leaves" Louis: Understandable Me: Understandable

[@jasonkeith2832]

A cybertruck isn't a car; it's a declaration that you've invested into a sinking cult.

[@OhSoTiredMan]

Me: Understoodable

[@fftunes]

😂

[@kirby1225]

Me: Understandable

[@nasimwehbe8410]

Also me: I completely understand.

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

Bruh, imagine buying the ugliest piece of shit car you can think of that doesn't even work like a truck normally and they call it a truck and you can't even sell it. This thing is worthless

[@producerbenford]

Can’t even handle snow and mud!! Hell or Rain

[@jonesymeow9487]

​@@producerbenfordor being washed.

[@grabasandwich]

And if the dedicated 12v battery dies, the electrically operated exterior door handles don't work!?

[@YeetmanSkeetman]

Funny, I allctually like the way it looks. If it wasn’t a giant piece of shit I would actually be interested in it. I also really like the 01 and 02 Camaro as well as the Prius so the general consensus is that my car opinion should not be trusted.

[@georgejones5019]

​@YeetmanSkeetman I have Rav4 and like the look of it. I don't like the look of the Prius, but having drove a couple for rentals. I do like a lot of toyotas cruise safety features on the highway.

[@MatterMadeMoot]

The LG banner cracks me up. Thanks for spreading the good word Louis.

[@joncitizen8060]

Lol, with so many willing to just roll over and accept this crap - I agree with you Louis, we're f#@ked!

[@cyberlando]

I love the hatred for LG 😌😌. I also have the exact same tv.… you should show us how to physically disable the microphone

[@BinarySecond]

"Your TV overlord has detected a modification. LG ninjas are on the way to this location to exact vengeance."

[@kingzach74]

Or just get rid of a TV with a camera or microphone and get one without. You'll save a ton of money and get a much better TV for the same price(usually significantly less) from TCL or Hisense in the same price bracket. TCL and Hisense don't have any microphones or cameras on their TV's(although some have one on the remote). However, you can always buy a cheaper Roku or Google TV remote(depending on the model) without a microphone on Amazon.

[@lemon3rd800]

I would open it up and unplug the microphone - desoldering it if necessary.

[@fugehdehyou]

Can someone help with finding the microphone so I can disable it

[@MrKobold22]

@@worldspam5682 I stopped getting those since I use nordvpn (which sometimes is a frag) and blocked mic usage to most of the apps incl. shitbook, messenger, I dont use chrome on the phone at all. One cannot isolate itself totally, but you can feel yourself a bit safer and private. There are various guides that help you through this, but I can tell you for the first time it will be frustrating and nerve wrecking, and it is worth it, go for it.

[@competitivedishwasher6579]

I will take an LG television over a Samsung television - after seeing your sponsor so many times, I decided to go to my Samsung TV's settings to see if it has something similar. It actually has something WORSE than LG's. LG's TVs have a "Don't Sell My Info" toggle, so you can just turn it off. Samsung does NOT have a toggle. They have a *Request* Button. It's just a button that says, "Don't Sell My Personal Information," and when you click it, it says "Request Sent." It does not tell you if your data will stop being sold.

[@HiragamaIkunai]

they don't honor it even if you could toggle it

[@railgun517]

They are both awful AWFUL companies and, for the most part, both (among others) are the direct cause of the dystopian society average South Koreans have to live in. (ESPECIALLY Samsung)

[@Darkon10199]

how pissed you are at LG is hilarious and I fucking love it. Love you Louis and I also love Futo and Immich

[@anotheruser9876]

"You wouldn't download a car" -Yes. Yes I would.

[@WilliamBrwn]

Hey that's illegal!

[@warrenmcclure7819]

One who is willing to give up freedom for safety deserves neither. Heard this from somewhere and i think it fits well here.

[@freedomdude5420]

Ben, Franklin.

[@Colddirector]

I mean there is a limit to that. We all give up the freedom to kill someone to be safe from murder, does that mean we deserve neither?

[@TerrorSyxke]

LG TVs used to be amazing, LG itself used to be amazing, they made absolutely beautiful phones and products, but I suppose profits come first these days

[@TysonJensen]

The LG CEO from 1995 onward died in 2018. New CEO, new strategy. Amazing products? too hard. Shitty products with massive enshittification built in? easy-peasy.

[@Eduardo1007]

You guys truly believe companies were better at any point in time? It's always been about shareholders and number go up.

[@jamesclerkmaxwell8020]

I think they are just following the trend of other companies "if everyone can eff the customer so bad and they don't react... Why shouldn't we?"

[@TerrorSyxke]

@@ThirtytwoJ Motorola with Google made nice phones especially droid, kinda fell off with the Lenovo purchase, the new razr is okay though

[@firestryche]

Ford did this with the GT some years ago. MSRP was about 500k. You had to be chosen by Ford themselves to even buy the car. As part of the buying contract, you couldn't sell it within the first year of ownership to discourage flipping.

[@stepha5926]

That sounds like Ferrari.

[@firestryche]

@@stepha5926 that's where they got inspiration from. Ferrari's LaFerrari sold from 2013-2018

[@Trylen]

Reasons like this keep me in the used market for cars... being broke also has some merit.. but if I buy it, it's mine, if the fine print says otherwise, I'm not buying it. As for the smart TV.... enjoy trying to steal my data when I won't use you features, won't hook up up to the internet and only use you as a big monitor. My next network up grade will involve vlans... that'll be setup just for the "you don't get to talk outside this network" level

[@konholio2]

how about people just stop "purchasing" new shit? People are going to get screwed, unless the majority of the customer base stops buying shit with immoral practices. And since there is no chance of that happening, we might as well accept, that people spending their money carelessly will dictate the products we get.

[@Pentium100MHz]

Yeah, scalpers profit only because people are in a rush to get it. Similar here. As I understand it, the dealer puts the no resale part in the contract. I would see it and just go home, without buying it, even if I had no plans to sell it, just like I have zero plans to sell my current car that was made in 1982.

[@konholio2]

@@Pentium100MHz Mine are 91 94 and 2003 and I dont plan on getting in a situation where the car spies on me or some vilian stuff

[@ianscarlett6884]

I hear what you're saying but it's a double edged sword... The parasitic companies couldn't profit by themselves, so they rely on the parasitic media, parasitic advertisements, and just general materialist propaganda. Yes we physically have the ability to hear these things and not do/buy them, but the fact remains that they are constantly bombarding us with information that is harmful to ourselves, to the point where it is impossible to avoid completely. Again I agree with what you're saying but the problem is still at an institutional level, where the companies and government are justifying indoctrination with these ideals as Free Market and Free Speech. The cultivation of children to be consumerist cogs is the most offensive part of the equation to me.

[@ultimateracer_]

It started before even the lightning, the Ford gt had the same thing. if price gouging is really what they cared about, they would just make you sign a contract disallowing you from selling the car over msrp

[@bvoyelr]

I actually think that's what Tesla's agreement states. One of the CarTubers (Hoovies Garage, I think?) went to sell his and mentioned that he could only sell it for a certain amount to avoid triggering that clause in the purchase agreement.

[@nminskey]

That's literally what it is lmao

[@LSGaming42066]

@@bvoyelr so then louis is wrong here. thanks for the info

[@ultimateracer_]

@@nminskeywas talking about the ford situation, haven't really looked into tesla's case

[@ultimateracer_]

@DW11111 what are you trying to argue here? theres no way to completely stop the problem, but you can work to make it as hard as possible for them to find potential buyers

[@raistlin_dourden]

I love how he starts his videos with "hope you're having a good day "...cuz I'm about to ruin it.

[@JohnD-JohnD]

There are TV's out there now that won't let you use them until you register the TV with the manufacture. (Westinghouse, and I'm sure there are others now) Stay away from those. As for the manufacture not letting you sell, modify, or repair something you own.. I fully agree that this needs to stop. Just like the newer cars tracking your data and driving habits and selling that to insurance companies without your consent. Or how about those dealers that are installing GPS trackers without consent. The list goes on... Until manufactures see consumers stop buying their products, they won't stop these stunts. Sadly, there are too many manufactures doing it these days.

[@eurodank]

Driving as a service 😀

[@maximilian19931]

use public transport instead!

[@TheMaleRei]

​@@maximilian19931 As someone who has used it quite a bit, I can speak of the joys and flexibility and freedom of *not* using public transport.

[@Cynsham]

@@maximilian19931 that would be a good solution if our country wasn't seemingly committed to having terrible public transport pretty much everywhere

[@Vidjnjsdnjk-en6tz]

@@Cynsham States?

[@hanswoast7]

@@Vidjnjsdnjk-en6tz Germany too.

[@julonkrutor4649]

Well, there was this age old saying: If buying is no longer owning ... something something

[@NuchiAsaki]

You wouldn't download a car...

[@ambiarock590]

@@NuchiAsaki The hell I won't lol

[@EmeraldTaurus96]

​@@NuchiAsakiYou bet your ass I would! And a House!

[@skidooshlayman12]

I downloaded my wife

[@Where2bub]

Ferrari has done this as well, and I believe ford also with their GT cars. Edit, ok, I see you mentioned ford with the lightening, but i believe ford told customers they weren’t allowed to sell their car back all the way from 2008 with the limited edition ford gt40 they made, and did it again with the next GT as well. Ferrari has been known to sue famous people for having their Ferrari wrapped in pink etc, because it wasn’t looking good, and on some super rare cars they would also not allow customers to resell their cars. They also have a policy on many of their cars where you can only buy a Ferrari if you already own a Ferrari etc etc, and so yeah I imagine they’d want to lock down the resellers to keep that exclusivity. Sorry for the rant, but the point is.. u,m actually, Tesla isn’t the first company to do this, it has been going on for at least 14 years, not with all a company’s cars, but for those new release, small batch ones.

[@daviduribe5897]

Owning a Ferrari might be outside of most people’s price range, but for the sake of public education I hope Louis does make a video on Ferrari and their exploitative and cult-esque contracts/policies

[@Multacio43]

Well when Ferrari says DO NOT PAINT OUR CARS IN FKING ACID PINK OR ADD NEON LIGHTS OR PUT A STIKER WITH ANIMEGIRL ON IT esthetic part of my soul praise them and sending them my best regards. But when my sanity take control - this situation stop being 100% positive

[@grosuciprian]

ferrari sued because he marketed the car "purrari" instead of ferrari when he sold it so it was a infringement on their trademark, if he would sell a "ferrari" wrapped in pink with neon lights no one would have a problem with him, also that particular person was a public person not a private individual so the trademark infringement stands. Next thing he did was purchasing a lanborghini hurracan and renamed it purracan lol

[@tid418]

Ferrari getting on people's case for changing the color of their cars is just another example of the company putting their branding above all else, as Louis touched on in the handbags into wallets video posted prior to this one. It is the same reason that Windows has become so uncustomizable. Even though it is your PC that you paid for, it has to "look like Windows," whatever that is at that particular moment. Even if you are one of the many people who find white backgrounds intolerable, you had to put up with it, because Microsoft's branding concerns are more important than you actually being able to comfortably use the PC you paid for. That has been somewhat alleviated with the dark theme in more recent Windows versions, but it doesn't work for everything, and not everyone who wants to avoid retinal pain wants to go all the way to a dark color scheme. It used to be that a consumer product was meant to serve the needs of the consumer. The money was made by making that consumer happy. Now we have consumer items that are meant to keep serving the manufacturer even after they change ownership.

[@HerbaMachina]

​@@Multacio43nah, fuck Ferrari for that, it's your car you can put whatever dumb wrap/ paint job you want on it, I don't have to like it and neither does Ferrari, it's not my car, do whatever the fuck you want with it that's not turning it into a deadly weapon and going on a killing spree.

[@affan-eo4jx]

When some Company started removing phone charger, including only the cable, immediately other followed. When companies removed games portions and started the DLC thing at launch, others followed as well. I can go on forever. As said before, we deserve what we are ready to tollerate.

[@MgtowRubicon]

Home builders do this, too. When they sell a new home, they record a performance trust deed on the house title that prevents the owner from renting out or selling the house in the first year. This to prevent competition against the builder while the builder still has more homes to sell.

[@MrCarGuy]

A serious problem with the auto industry is resellers always trying to flip limited production or long wait-list vehicles. In this case long wait-list. This is a good incentive to dissuade those parties that order 20 of them so they can resell them, or auction them, over the MSRP for the period that people are willing to pay it.

[@Mirphise]

This is not it my friend, for that they could buy from the customer for the MSRP and fine those who sold for third party, what they are doing is leagues worse, and won't help with this particular case anyway.

[@Kandralla]

And? If you own it, they shouldn't be able to tell you what you can and can't do with it. If that means you have people flipping cars than so be it. You can't hate a practice only when you're on the wrong side of it.

[@dzhang4459]

The manufacturer shouldn't make "limited" editions. It's literally a problem THEY create.

[@ehyouman]

Quickly becoming my fav channel on KZbin

[@Jo-Heike]

A thought just occurred to me. A fee for reselling almost-new cars artificially creates scarcity that the producer can take advantage of to raise its own prices. Edit: Feel the discussion in the replies to my comment is more interesting than my original comment.

[@matthewobrien5925]

Always respect Louis' opinions, but this will be the first time I will have to disagree & say that he's wrong. This fine is necessary to prevent scalpers from buying up the entire stock of a limited supply product (like PS5's on initial release or in-demand Ticketmaster concert tickets). The issue here SPECIFICALLY is that the initial stock of the product in question is so limited that the supply can be effectively cut off from the consumer by malicious scalpers. As such, this is a PRO consumer policy. Louis' reaction is entirely understandable given how consumers are being treated in virtually every other case, but is ultimately wrong here as he is failing to see how this "anti-scalper" policy is actually pro-consumer.

[@MetroAndroid]

Probably also for customer retention rates for shareholders. "Cybertrucks have 100% retention rate! People won't sell them even if it means going hungry!"

[@pewpin1039]

@@matthewobrien5925 Ooooor, just let the market solve it. PS and luxury, yes, luxury cars are not a necessity. Scalpers can't do much when the market is not willing to pay more for early access. Scalping works for concert tickets, because its a limited time opportunity. With items like cars, consoles, games, physical goods, all you need to do is wait for the next releases, and have the scalpers stuck with items they can't resell (happened to PS scalpers). This is 101% not in place to deal with scalpers. IF, and this is a big IF. Cars were in limited supply, then sure. But they are not. You have plenty of choice on buying a car in most countries. This limitation of resell, is literally just in place to prevent a second hand market that bypasses the original producer.

[@Jo-Heike]

@@matthewobrien5925 The policy goes way too far, and it also shouldn't be something a corporation can do. A government regulation, maybe, but an enforceable company policy? No. As to how the policy goes too far. It affects individual consumers too much. A fee for reselling more than one car would be more reasonable, and would stop any one entity from buying up and then reselling the multiple cars. This is also a problem of what cars are, cars should be a luxury commodity, instead in North America they're a necessity. If they weren't the price would be more fixed according to demand.

[@everydaydose7779]

People complain on this too much because its not FERRARI OR FORD Look at how hefty their fines are if you sell your vehicle in breach of "contract" Remember when John Cena was sued for breaching no sale contract? LOL

[@Niizinay]

Your house brings me straight back to the nineties- no judgements, whatsoever! It just.. brings me back.

[@BillyBobBrockali69]

I looked it up, and it says Tesla has indeed implemented a $50,000 penalty for reselling Cybertruck within the first year of ownership. This clause is included in the purchase agreement to prevent early reselling or "flipping" of the vehicle for profit due to its high demand and limited initial availability. If an owner needs to sell their Cybertruck within the first year for an unforeseen reason, they must get written consent from Tesla, who might choose to buy back the vehicle or allow the sale under specific conditions

[@TheGuruStud]

tesla won't take this junk back LOL

[@RimelightX]

Sounds like the exact same thing Ford did with its Ford GT. And then they sued John Cena for doing it. And won.

[@realsushrey]

In case of this customer, they refused to buy it back and reminded him he would be sued if he resold it.

[@kimxgamer]

Things are getting worse and worse every time. It's going to get even worse if we don't rebel against these sort of nonsense *now.* If we don't then they will continue these practices...

[@EngineeringSiblings]

Not saying that contract is legit or no, but in Norway (one of the biggest EV markets) people were buying the cars and selling them even before it was delivered to the new owner.. This was done especially in front of tax change ... So even the advertising platforms for ads has made it obligatory that you have taken delivery of the car and the car is in your title/name..

[@realsushrey]

Norway has different laws.

[@EngineeringSiblings]

@@realsushrey what does it has to do with POS resellers interjecting as a middle man and further increasing the price of vehicles on the market..

[@Twiddle_things]

Love the LG banner. There's nothing better than Louis' passive aggressiveness

[@georocklan4472]

Can't remember the last time I got a smart television and refuse to do so. Be amazed how often people will throw out large quality HD flatscreens. Got all of mine for the cost of just taking it off thier hands. Though this crap modern companies pull is absolutely ridiculous.

[@ZorValachan]

This has been going on for decades. Manufacturing employees can get discounts that are cheaper than what dealers pay for the cars. Limiting the number of cars bought per year and not being able to resell for a year has been going on since at least the 1970s. My dad worked at Ford and he had friends at both GM and Chrysler. They all had this restriction. Not supporting it, just saying things like this aren't new.

[@ArranAsh]

Thank you for another great sermon Louis Basedmann

[@luisrodrigues7074]

Bro. Thank you for your public service. Although I'm European, I too feel this is happening here. When you buy a new car you can't use it until you accept terms and conditions that make you wave away your right to privacy. These companies are worldwide conglomerates and they just adjust slightly to each market. Unfortunately only a few like yourself are aware and put in the effort to help us fight back. Keep up the great work.

[@Backseatsman1]

Yeah I can imagine. Ferrari practices this crap all the time.

[@ah5836]

Things like this are common in the exotic car market too, it's both to prevent people from turning right around and finding a buyer for more, but also preventing people from knowing sale prices in case it's significantly lower than the dealers want to charge.

[@ArshAZ83]

Ferrari does this but they also don't sell those particular vehicles to the general public. That said there's a huge difference between a Ferrari Portofino and a Daytona SP3. Ferrari doesn't care if you get rid of your Portofino after a few months of ownership. There is nothing exotic or fancy or even rare about a tesla. It's a giant overpriced turd with depreciation rates that make BMWs looking like an investment.

[@ah5836]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAM The cyber truck isn't yet mass produced, they have waitlists just like exotic cars, maybe a factor into this too.

[@LSGaming42066]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAM i can make a car in limited numbers for $5 that doesn't mean its mass produced. and yes people have waited on waitlists for yrs for one. As of April 2024, Tesla's website lists the expected delivery time for new Cybertruck orders as 2025, including the all-wheel drive version and the Cyberbeast. However, as of January 2024, some say that new orders are being scheduled for 2027 due to a slow production timeline. In December 2023, Wall Street analysts estimated that Tesla could produce 48,500 Cybertrucks in 2024 and 78,000-230,000 in 2025.

[@ah5836]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAM Someone who is homeless and no income cannot afford the pricetag of a cyber truck, so it's not affordable to everyone. Second point, even if you have the money you cannot go out right now and buy a cyber truck, that is why they have a wait list.

[@CodecrafterArtemis]

@GHOSTSTARSCREAM To be fair Tesla produced, like... 3000 of Cybertrucks I think. And then recalled them all. So they're definitely exotic. Just for all the wrong reasons.

[@shekharmoona544]

Someone bought a bunch of BMW Z8's and they are all in one garage. 😂😂😂

[@juliusperseus8612]

Wtf ?! That's a good investment though...

[@Da40kOrks]

Wait until Louis hears what happens if you paint your Ferrari in a way Ferrari doesn't like...

[@jojohehe3251]

Why are politicians not introducing legislation to prevent companies from charging fees which are unrelated to the provision of the good or service? In Australia if a fee structure resembles a fine or is punitive in any way it does not stand. Only statutory authorities permitted to have a fee structure which resembles a fine or a punishment in any way. Bank fees which are deemed to be punitive in nature have been struck down. Banks are a good example here, because they have been found to have fee structures which are totally unrelated to the cost of providing their services, and such fees have also been deemed unenforceable.

[@xanderopal7367]

Firearms owners who are otherwise law-abiding face even worse penalties in many states for selling their personal property directly to a fellow fully law-abiding person. Even if that other law-abiding person has gone through a background check minutes before.

[@davidbock8282]

And those penalties are through actual force of law, not "merely" corporate policies.

[@dany_fg]

a subscription is just a fine at this point

[@02337755]

LOL "They're Poor I Got an iPhone"

[@flaziblaz]

you are spot on, but i was in a class where kids got away with talking back to the teacher, i knew better and i never took advantage of her. a few other kids also never did so not every company will act like the other companies but most will

[@Sunzi-ll3fp]

As an LG TV owner, the info at the buttom triggered me, I started looking for a video addressing the issue and would have missed the end if I hadn't open a new tab for my search. Thanks for your work!

[@georgejones5019]

Damn. I have an LG C1 as it was the best bang for the buck for image quality at the time. But I noticed it had a ton of agreements and stuff when starting it up. The cybertruck is easily the ugliest car I've ever seen in real life. It's like someone wanted a lambo truck from the PS1 era in real life.

[@Dupliaxe]

Man, I love it when they change the word for "extortion".

[@a_trauma_llama2991]

Hey Louis, thanks for the ticker warning about LG tv's... Just checked my Samsung and yup - it had a "don't sell my info" button too.

[@kgpz100]

When Alex Jones got deplatformed years ago and everyone was cheering, I warned that it would happen to them. Then the pandemic hit and EVERYONE was censored. Same shit, different face.

[@protow5041]

I have an LG, never use the aps tho, HDMI1 for my pc only

[@N0tTh3Pr0]

Same here mate. Glad I ain't the only one that does this.

[@sannyfolkesson2226]

yeah price gouging in sweden is so common people just accept it as "privilige to pay for quality!" (EVs and hybrids in scandinavia can at times doubble in price compare to rest of eu) we even had people be hounded for buying harddrives outside sweden as "engaging in piracy"

[@amonoceros]

I bought a Fairphone, not because I particularly cared about the environmental aspects, or even the repairability, but because the fact that they cared about those things means that they're less likely to be looking for ways to screw me over. But I'd be thrilled if the various anti-consumer things were made illegal. I'm already glad that Europe basically made USB-C the standard. I want places to have to compete by providing the best products at fair prices, not by who's best able to deceive and/or screw over their customers. The sooner I can let my guard down when making a purchase, the better.

[@BaronVonSTFU]

People should realize that if a company is publicly traded that the CEO has a duty toake decisions to make the company as profitable as possible. It is basically written in law. Back in the day the dodge brothers sued Henry Ford over not making decisions that would raise profit prices, and the brothers won. Now , obviously there is more to the story than that but the message is basically still "make us stockholders money". So companies are basically incentivized to be as scummy as possible. It is up to regulation to set the ground rules.

[@TwinShards]

If their reason to stop new car owners is to prevent scalpers shouldn't this fine only apply if the owner of this car (try to) sell it for higher than the current MSRP at the current time of sell? If they were doing their agreement like this NO ONE would have a problem with this agreement even if this agreement legally had to be given/apply to the new owner. Nah, let's punish anyone for no reason.

[@JodyBruchon]

*The bigger issue here is that anyone buys a Cybertruck in the first place.* What kind of horrible idiot must one be to do such a foolish thing?

[@michaelhess4825]

I've never been described as horrible or an idiot. But that's mostly just because I keep an open mind and use the gray matter between my ears, vs the ears listening to everything someone with no experience says, and ignoring the engagement of said gray matter..

[@JodyBruchon]

@@michaelhess4825 Anyone who buys a Cyber"truck" is an idiot. An open mind doesn't matter here; what matters is rational analysis and due diligence. The only value a Cybertruck holds is as a novelty. The most popular vehicle among the wealthy is the Ford F-150 because of its multi-purpose practicality and versatility.

[@jamessilva1259]

This should go to Court. For one Scalping trending items by HUGE Volume, not 1, and deciding you don't want it.

[@ItsJustOneGuy]

I would never understand how it is legal for a company to tell you what to do with your personal property. Just insane.

[@1234cheerful]

Tesla? Shocking. Not very, though.

[@Arcella1981]

People have been selling their cybertrucks with out anything happening to them, i think he is fine

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Unless they decided to take all of them to court. It shouldn't be there in the first place.

[@olorin3815]

to be fair im pretty sure tesla made that fine because cybertruck is new and to prevent from people buying up a bunch of them and selling them at inflated prices they just made the fine. I think its fine for like 1st year of cybertruck release

[@johnmf6096]

GET OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE!

[@taurinenrgy]

Price gauging was bad from dealers but horrible with the private sales. Used Broncos were 30k over msrp, less than 2 years ago.

[@rocketmunkey1]

George Carling also said "Its a big club and YOU'RE not in it" !

[@discfree1]

So sad that its this way now just to make some more money. In Denmark thats called (Købeloven) and its a Buyers Law, its illegal to hide or other ways to add an Xtra money-charge or Fee thats not written in any given Contract and the shop can get a Fine equal to or more of the Xtra (hidden) charge/Fee and the Contract can be Cancelled, if you send something to Repair and the shop cannot fix it when tried 3 times you can cancel your buy and get all of your money back. And Købeloven says that If you buy it, you Own it.

[@TheMelnTeam]

If this were about preventing price gouging, the contract would not bar sales near market value. It would still be a nonsense, anti-consumer, illegal practice. But it would have more plausible deniability compared to them doing the equivalent of just spitting in consumer faces with blatantly obvious lies.

[@TimKennedy1]

This is a reasonable restriction to keep people from scalping the product

[@youtubasoarus]

No, it really isn't. I don't agree with scalpers but selling what you own is an unalienable right.

[@TimKennedy1]

@@youtubasoarus yeah but being one of the first people allowed to buy an extremely limited product is not an inalienable right. So if you want to be first in line you have to agree to their contract. If you don't want to agree to the contract then fine you can still buy a cyber truck You're just not going to be first in line

[@youtubasoarus]

@@TimKennedy1 That's all artificial scarcity so I don't buy that argument either. These companies want to generate hype by limiting the initial release numbers, then also want to limit people reselling them. It's really quite stupid. I don't know who believes this crap. While i'm at it, adding a contract that prohibits resale WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE GOD DAMNED VEHICLE should not be allowed at all. Either they sell the vehicle or they don't. Once the sale is completed the manufacturer loses its right to it because they relinquish ownership at the time of sale.

[@TimKennedy1]

@@youtubasoarus I might be more amenable to your position if you manage to get the facts correct. You've obviously never worked on ramping a product before. You think you can just switch on all the machines and have max production immediately? There's always going to be a ramp as the production rises to meet the demand and until that point there is going to be pricing issues. Secondly just because someone relinquishes ownership of something doesn't mean they can't still enforce a contract. Goods and services are bought and sold both personally and commercially with all sorts of contracts. It may be your wish that once you own something You can do whatever you want with it but the reality is if you entered into a contract you're going to be bound by it. If companies want to prevent scalping then they have the right to do so, and you have the freedom to choose two or not to enter into that contract

[@youtubasoarus]

@@TimKennedy1 Yeah hey man keep supporting this bullshit until it effects you. And yes i've worked all kinds of jobs including "ramping product" as you call it. Or working lines or inspecting vehicles and shit. Please take your holier than thou rhetoric somewhere else. You can have a contract, sure, but there are still predatory companies and predatory practices. When you buy something, you own it. Stop making up bullshit excuses for these people. You sound like an idiot.

[@jayryia]

"Well... we're all gonna be F***ed together." Man I laughed at this way more than I shoud've.

[@Sgt_Killersnow]

Actually ran into another channel that covered the Adobe thing and when I used the special word describing their mentality the only response I got was about the choice of word and how the descriptive words BEHIND that word seemed more apt (I.E. - forced to accept things they don't want to, not given choice, not allowed to say no) to which I got no response when illuminating I wasn't calling adobe rapists, but that rapist *mentality* is a different thing than the crime itself and is far more publicly widespread and seemingly *accepted* given how people fight against rape but defend rape mentality in business and more.

[@IonkoGueorguiev]

This is common practice in pretty much any high end or limited production car. Try to buy any limited edition high end brand like a Ferarri and this clause of the contract is the least of your worries. It's not a new thing, to my knowledge these contracts have been around since the 70's.

[@defiant4eva]

I would honestly like to know, if this would hold up in court. If it is to stop people scalping, I could see it holding up, but if you're wanting to sell it, because of other circumstances, I could see a court over turning it.

[@themightydropbear]

I just checked on my Samsung smart TV and tracking my activity/selling my data was on by default. There are two menus you need to go to to turn tracking off. The first is Settings>all settings>Broadcasting>Data service and then check "do not track". The second is Settings>all settings>general and privacy>terms and privacy> privacy choices> and then check "do not sell or share my personal data". You will then be told that your request will be processed in two weeks.

[@joeschmoe1994]

Been saying this for year. Branding, Tribalism and dividing. Powerful ways to manipulate people. Us vs them.

[@youtubasoarus]

Imagine having to explain to a car company why you want to sell your car after you bought it. What even the hell is going on out there?! Insanity. People should NOT be putting up with this shit.