18. Umar threatens to burn the House of Fatima (as)| Sayed Ammar Nakshawani | Holy Ramadan 2024/1445

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An exclusive lecture series with the world-renowned Dr. Sayed Ammar Nakshawani
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0:00 Promo's
5:29 Incident That Occurs After Saqifa!
20:58 First Visit to the Fatima's House!
28:50 Burning of the House
40:47 Umar's Threat to Burn Fatima's House (Sunni Books)
52:35 Abu Bakr Order's to Umar!
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[@roohbacha5508]

What's more disheartening is that the people who call themselves Muslims and the followers of the sunnah of Muhammad p.b.u.h have closed their eyes to the truth and the oppression of his daughter and family.

[@mohdkhalid698]

Is that incident is part of our belief...what was Haider e karar doing sleeping....with Zulfiqar

[@roohbacha5508]

@mohdkhalid698 Your belief doesn't define reality... you think you are the first person to ask this ignorant question ? This is what happens when you don't know history and have blind faith.. Haider e karar would have beheaded Umar with his zulfiqar if the Prophet had not prohibited him from doing so and unlike umar Haider e karar obeys the commands of the Prophet. Go learn your own history and then come and ask such ignorant questions. Just listening to some cheating lying molwis doesn't give one knowledge or the understanding of truth. Have you ever asked your self to what all facts of history will the umaris deny? 1.Imam Ali Born in the Kaaba 2.Prophets declaration of Imam Ali being his wasi and Claiph on Da'wat dhul-ashira 3. Imam Ali being victorious in all battles 4. Prophet declaring the victor of Khandaq to be his successor. 5. Abu bark umar fleeing from hunain and khaiber 6. Prophet declaring the value and status of Imam Ali before and after the victory of khaiber 7. Prophet declaring his successor on Ghadeer e kum 9. Aisha , Abu bark and umar poisoning the Prophet. 8. Abu bakr and umar usurping the right of Imam Ali being the Caliph at Sakifa while the Prophet hasn't even been buried yet. 9. Abu bakr usurping the right and property of Bibi Fatima 10. Umar burning the house of Bibi Fatima and kicking the door which cause her death. 11. Umar burning of the Quran and hadiths. The list goes on and on. If I had to point out every point here it would take days. What are the chances of everything mentioned above and beyond being false? Just understand one thing the umaris need all of it to be false while the Shia just need 1 of it to be true. I'm assuming you have your own Aqal and just not the hearsay of molwis. Do the math. Just think even if just 1 of what shia claim is true where does that put you on the day of judgemnet ? On that day make sure you ask Allah what Haider e karar was doing with his zulfiqar. So next time think again before jumping and screaming shia kafir and shia chest beaters and what nots stupid ignorant objections you'll come up with. I mean it's an insult to your intellect to behave so childish and immature with those cliche ignorant objections. May Allah guide you.😊

[@skr313riz9]

​@@mohdkhalid698 What was your government of muslims doing when abu bakr died..what was your Allah and protectors doing when Umar was attacked?...where was your loved ones when Usman was killed ?... Why Allah didn't protect your Khalifas Where were you when Palestine was attacked and Muslims are being killed Why are you still here and alive ? Why Allah instantly Didn't killed the pharaoh firoan?

[@iMan-610]

This is hide lie. Ali married his daughter to Umar.

[@iMan-610]

According to shia hadiths,Ali married his daughter to Umar. How can Umar marry his daughter to "oppressor" of his wife? It makes no sense.

[@thelion2087]

This Man Dr Sayed Ammar is a genius. May Allah swt give him the highest jannah on the day of judgement.

[@fahadalam8322]

Majoosi maddad hahahaahahah

[@mohdkhalid698]

Coward never face any Sunni scholars after being challenged several times

[@thelion2087]

@@fahadalam8322Speak English

[@thelion2087]

@@fahadalam8322Speak English

[@thelion2087]

@@fahadalam8322English

[@the.tribal_chief]

Please one lecture on umar's fled from battles

[@taqiuk4688]

Narrated Abu Qatada: When it was the day of (the battle of) Hunain, I saw a Muslim man fighting with one of the pagans and another pagan was hiding himself behind the Muslim in order to kill him. So I hurried towards the pagan who was hiding behind the Muslim to kill him, and he raised his hand to hit me but I hit his hand and cut it off. That man got hold of me and pressed me so hard that I was afraid (that I would die), then he knelt down and his grip became loose and I pushed him and killed him. The Muslims (excepting the Prophet (ﷺ) and some of his companions) started fleeing and I too, fled with them. Suddenly I met `Umar bin Al-Khattab amongst the people and I asked him, "What is wrong with the people?" He said, "It is the order of Allah" Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 4322

[@thelion2087]

Ran away Like a 🐐 ⛰️

[@abdulmusawwir6769]

😂

[@taqiuk4688]

😂😂The funny thing is that he makes the excuse that it is "the will of Allah". Even though in Quran Allah warns Al-Anfal verse 15 and 16 says, يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ إِذَا لَقِيتُمُ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ زَحْفًۭا فَلَا تُوَلُّوهُمُ ٱلْأَدْبَارَ "O believers! When you face the disbelievers in battle, never turn your backs to them." وَمَنْ يُوَلِّهِمْ يَوْمَئِذٍ دُبُرَهُ إِلَّا مُتَحَرِّفًا لِقِتَالٍ أَوْ مُتَحَيِّزًا إِلَىٰ فِئَةٍ فَقَدْ بَاءَ بِغَضَبٍ مِنَ اللَّهِ وَمَأْوَاهُ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ “And whoever turns his back to them on that day, unless withdrawing to fight again or removing to join another troop, he has incurred wrath from Allah, and his abode is Hell; and an evil destination it is.” We now know whoever ran away from the battelfield his destination is Hell.

[@thelion2087]

@@taqiuk4688Ya his excuse was it’s the will of Allah to leave the prophet on the battle field and run away like a coward

[@haijder89]

Great lecture again.

[@brozzbee8386]

I love how Sunni discourse’s only video is to say let’s debate. Tbh why does he have to debate? What do you get out of a debate? A debate is meant to be done with an open mind. He’s never gonna change your mind, and you’re never gonna change his mind. He’s also said in his previous videos, keep an open mind when you’re looking at the history of Islam. When you really look into the mirror, see for yourself if you’re being honest or not. Look at the history in the texts, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest that the religion was split during saqifa. Farid responds in his argument, says Why would Umar, fight his family & loved ones to convert to Islam, (just look at history away from Islam, there’s plenty of examples of people killing their own family & siblings to gain power, kingdoms thrown away because of that power) are you telling me that this can’t happen? Put yourself in that position and yes it’s easy to sit here and type behind a keyboard, but if there’s an opportunity to get all the money & power, a lot of people would be choosing the latter over Islam. All Sayed Ammar has done is read out the texts & they're scrambling.

[@TommyM-xg3ke]

💯

[@saqh.4439]

Very true analysis

[@iMan-610]

Sunni discourse has answered time ago about this false hadith

[@iMan-610]

Why Ammar is afraid of debate??

[@salmanjaffri2539]

He’s done it again ❤

[@fpsFAMOUS]

For those that say "let's debate"... This means, they have lost! They want to twist words during the debate. These YT series' are crystal clear. Sayed just changed the dynamics of the Muslim Ummah. Inshallah, if our brothers and sisters are sincere in finding the truth, they will do the homework and then join us.

[@Carmen-ex3nr]

Maybe there will come the time for debate also.

[@zeeshangul9632]

"They Want To Twist The Words Doing Debate" Lol What People Literally Have Academic Debates Where There Is A Moderator To Maintain The Decorum

[@iMan-610]

According to shia hadiths,Ali married his daughter to Umar. How can Umar marry his daughter to "oppressor" of his wife? It makes no sense.

[@treeflamer]

Clear cut, concise, accurate

[@sarahhuss9702]

Thank you so much brother and May Allah bless you and your family ❤❤❤

[@fouziafyazi5768]

Nailed it Sayed 🔨💪🎤

[@sidhussain915]

Sheikh Hassan Allayari has covered all these topics in Arabic and Urdu English in depth and has a open challenge on the Islam of Abu Bakr and Umar Khatab

[@fpsFAMOUS]

I thought he hadnt started English debates yet..

[@akbaslam]

Tbh Allayari is too good. Ammar Naqshawani has copied his programme.

[@treeflamer]

@@akbaslamhow so?

[@sidhussain915]

@@fpsFAMOUS Sheikh has done lectures in English and with demand and support he would do much more

[@sidhussain915]

@@akbaslam They are both Allhumdillah good in their own ways Ammar a historical experts and Sheikh Hassan has master in opposition texts

[@kazimsyed7367]

Anyone who have problem 💢 with the red pill lectures 🔻read Below [4:148] Allah does not like negative thoughts to be voiced-except by those who have been wronged. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. [Serah Shura (42): Verse 23] Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives"

[@abdelqadir5227]

eye opening thank you for this knowledge! Because they always come for us in the name of spreading division

[@mariam_173]

❤❤❤

[@davidayoubi1967]

MashaAllah, Ummar himself said that there was a devil inside him which took control of him. The followers of Ummar are deaf and blind and dumb. and that is how they will be raised on the day of Judgement. Where ever there is an Ummary there is no Aqel(wisdom) and wherever there is wisdom (Aqel) there is no Ummary. May Allah S.W.T. bless you.

[@saqh.4439]

Facts

[@BahramZareie]

Please provide source

[@davidayoubi1967]

@@BahramZareie If I search it and find it and present it, Then will you become Shia? Or will you still follow A man who murdered Fatima AlZahra and her unborn child.

[@BahramZareie]

I am Shia brother I made that comment for our brethren of ahl Sunna.

[@davidayoubi1967]

@@BahramZareie Salam o alykum wa rahamatulAllah wa barakat, I tried to respond, but everytime i posted it, it was deleted. I am not sure if you got my response to your question.

[@jellooooooooo10]

Starts 5:40

[@captainrtf]

ATTENTION BROTHERS: Do you know why it will be extremely difficult and expensive to have a debate between Sayed Ammar and Mufti Menk or other sheiks in the Sunni world? I can confidently and unequivocally say that half of their followers(thinkers) will see the light; renounce the faith of Abu B and Umar, and accept Quran & Ahlulbayt. Why? Do you know the number of Sunni friends who are angry at themselves for not knowing the truth all these years? All I did was just sharing Sayed Ammar’s expositions to them to watch. One said ‘’Sunni has nothing to do with the prophet’s Sunnah’’

[@iqribellu2114]

One of my sunny friend already told me before this series that out of all the companions, he dislike Umar ibn khatab the most. He says more he reads about him the more he disliked him. But obviously even sunnis cannot openly share their thoughts with their fellow sunni brothers otherwise they might get attacked by their own people. i am not just talking about verbal attack. Many sunnis have views that they hide from fellow sunnis because of danger. Even same friend said who would know more the daughter or friend about daughter's inheritance? We won't even accept our aunt and uncle's testimony that your father told me that it's charity. We won't believe them. Dying prophet saw was not given pen and paper they say because "prophet is delirious" God forbid. But if he says to give fadak to charity, it's accepted? I think every intelligent sunni or salafi brother does think about it at least once in the lifetime. But they cannot do anything about it so they remain quite.

[@captainrtf]

@@iqribellu2114 well said broh. I became a Shia due to inquisitiveness. Many things didn’t make sense in Islam to me when growing up. Whenever I raised a question about a topic I didn’t understand like leaving the hands or folding hands in salat, they say the prophet did both. But when I left my hands down in salat, I’m forced to fold it. Why do we raise the index finger and shake it during Tahiya? They tell me it’s a way of whipping shaitan. In the mosque during salat? Most of the answers I got about questions were just bullshit. If I asked about behaviors of the companions, they said leave the companions alone coz all of them are right and going to Jannah. I was like what the fuck! What about if a companion killed another companion, they both enter jannah? From that early age I felt either Islam was fake and Christianity was correct or these people were telling me nonsense. But Alhamdulillah after 18yrs I found tangible answers to my questions.

[@saqh.4439]

How can Umar dare to threaten the holy Household of Muhammad sawaw, lanat

[@saqh.4439]

Ali a.s Haqq❤

[@user-qy8eo6ty6y]

JazākAllah khair

[@ahmedhabib442]

Another knife (lecture of truth and intellect) through the hearts of the hypocrites and devils! It amazes me how an individual can continue on the wrong path whilst the evidence is in their own books. Then again, hypocrites have always existed and the hell fire was created for a reason.

[@akbaslam]

As a Shia, I think you need to develop yourself. When you are born into a faith, it's difficult to break out because of the ground level teaching. If you were born a Buddhist, would you have become Shia..... Lol in other words, can you explain Buddhism as a true Buddhist follows?

[@saqh.4439]

You are brilliant Sayed by bringing the facts and critical study of Islamic history 👏

[@nilofarsayed2516]

Great lectures Dr. Ammar ❤️🥰👍

[@user-qt6pc9se5d]

37:32 ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Dogru__Yol]

Great lecture. But please the person have the zoom better in the books. Today was worse...

[@saqh.4439]

38:19 Jamal was the breaking point ❤

[@iMan-610]

Are you speaking about Battle when killers of Uthman caused the war between Aisha and Ali to prevent agreement for their punishment

[@sweetsour4823]

@@iMan-610interesting

[@infinitewisdom4557]

Easy peasy, lemon squeezey!

[@zeeshangul9632]

35:56 Ibne Humayd As Been Classified As A Liar Now If Anyone Argues That Why Every Hadith Becomes Weak Than Either The Person Is Stupid Or Doesn't Know The Rules Of Hadith

[@_7-8-6_]

How can the threat of burning (cited in some sunni sources which even if for arguments sake are accepted as being reliable) does not equal actual burning the house or broken rib or Fatima's unborn child aborted. Leaving aside that Ali still pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr by agreement, indeed Umar the 2nd caliph subsequently married umm kulthum the daughter of Fatima and Ali as cited in al-kafi: kitab al-talaq (v.6:pg 75) which is authenticated by al-majlisi in his Mirat al-uqul (see v. 20: pg 42-5 and v.21: pg 197-9), whereas al-murtada states in his rasa'il (v.3:pg 148-50) the fact that she had given birth to the children of Umar is impermissible to deny except by the ignorant or the obstinate. Surely no one, let alone Ali, would marry his daughter to the person who usurped the caliphate, burnt their marital home down, hit his wife, killing his unborn child, and eventually his wife too. Yet he did so, whereby Ali became the father in law of Umar, and al-Hasan and al-husayn became his brothers in law. ❤❤❤. Thus, it is little wonder that the shii scholar Ahmad al-katib considers the story of the house burning, hitting Fatima, breaking her rib and causing the loss of her foetus is more akin to an Indian film (filman hindiyyan) than a reliable report.

[@alikazmi1422]

What do you mean by 6:75? volume 6?

[@rcmysm9123]

And Abu Lahab (LA) is the uncle of prophet Muhammad pbuh. Cain is the brother Abel also.

[@davidmollahassani4329]

Whats wrong with you sonni all these fact omar still is praised vallah you are not muslim dont care if u pray u are of the monafegeen

[@iMan-610]

These are Fabricated hadiths not facts. Umar was among FIRST EMIGRANTS to whom Allah promised Paradise in Quran 9:100

[@saqh.4439]

Lanat bar Umar

[@Al-Madhloom]

Wallah they are shia of Abu Bakr, Umr, and Uthman...sad.

[@zeeshangul9632]

Refution Coming Soon Ya Walad

[@mahdifalahi5900]

I wish someone could refute these evidences, but apparently sunni sect had faced difficulties in the last 1400 years

[@zulqarnain401]

What was Ali (r.a) doing? What would shias conclude about such a man who stands and does not protect his wife?

[@iamwahabi]

MASYAALLAH SAYED AMMAR YOU HAVE NAILED IT ONCE AGAIN WITH THIS BRILLIANT LECTURE. YOU NEED IMAN AND LOVE TO BE GUIDED TO THE STRAIGHT PATH❤

[@zeeshangul9632]

46:50 The Full Chain Of Narration Is Given In [Jami` at-Tirmidhi, 3262] Musanaf Ibne Seba Narration Remains Mursal !!!! 🥱

[@zulqarnain401]

Now bring in the imaginary story of mohsin as well.

[@BIGHAMZA]

This is a comedy show 🤣🤣🤣

[@asattar973]

Lanatullah alel Kazibeen..( even me).... There is only 1 source of this lie...book of " Suleem bin kaeef hilali" Even shia ulama has declared him as kazab...... I challenge all books you are showing there source is 1... Suleema bin kaeef.....

[@sheryarkhan9328]

May you shut your mouth because you aren't among the ones Promised Jannah however Umar RA was. Lolz kids who doesn't have the courage to get rid of tattoos that are haram are judging on one of the greatest Khalifa and Ashra mubashara.

[@kausarbohra6168]

It is not the eyes which are blind but the hearts ( Al Quran ) . I know it is very much difficult to criticise a person whom you have been worshipping the whole time. But the truth cannot be changed he provided references from your sunni sect 3 books not from our own shia sources . So then tell me that you don’t believe your own books and if yes then from where does you inherit your religion. Personal attacks on sayed ammar are just a diversion. In the whole video he hasn’t even offered a single personal opinion he just read your books 😂😂. Poor and misguided ummah 😂

[@kausarbohra6168]

You calling umar the greatest khalifa let me give you a reference Narrated by Al Qatada When it was the day of (the battle of) Hunain, I saw a Muslim man fighting with one of the pagans and another pagan was hiding himself behind the Muslim in order to kill him. So I hurried towards the pagan who was hiding behind the Muslim to kill him, and he raised his hand to hit me but I hit his hand and cut it off. That man got hold of me and pressed me so hard that I was afraid (that I would die), then he knelt down and his grip became loose and I pushed him and killed him. The Muslims (excepting the Prophet (*) and some of his companions) started fleeing and I too, fled with them. Suddenly I met 'Umar bin Al-Khattab amongst the people and I asked him, "What is wrong with people ? He said it is the order of allah . Sahih al bukhari 4322.

[@sheryarkhan9328]

@@kausarbohra6168 bro don't even get me started. What he does is misinterpret the story and people like you who do not know get convienced. He confused the people that Omar RA called taraweeh a good bidah but he didn't said what did he said bidah to. Praying separately or Praying taraweeh itself. It was praying separately. Secondly it feels so wierd from a shia community talking about authenticity. Please read some books. Your whole religion lies on four books. 1: Al kafi 2: Man la yahduru 3: Tahdib Al akham 4: Al istisbar 10% of them have nothing but sources from Imam bakir and Imam jaffar that are credible. Rest all sources are false and all of them are criticized by your own scholars 🤣. You are from a bohra community. One of branch that resulted in claiming to be an imam bh Islamili sect. How many people have claimed to be an imam among the branches of imam baqir. Allah knows who were greedy. So don't come to me and talk about authenticity. One of your own scholar said that we have Al kafi and there are not strong narrations but this is the best wr have got 😄. Your imamat concept is based on Gada. Your imams even says Khabre-wahid hadith can be authentic( a hadith that is only narrated by one and claims is from Prophet) 😄😄😄😄. Such is the evidence of your proofs. Whereas in our Sahihain, we do not rely on Khabre-wahid. We only takes hadith in which is transmitted by many companions, they have never been doubted either with their memory or character (once) in a life time, their memory should be strong, not even (once) it should have happened that he narrated something and it turned out to be false otherwise we wont accept that hadith. His memory should be very sharp and so should be his character(never critcized once). Such is the rigidness of our authenticity. We don't play games here. Now lets come back to your books. Just keep aside imam jafar and like I said only 10% are reported by imam jaffar and imam baqir because they have not been criticizes neither in sunni nor in shia madhab and but rest 90%, keep aside sunnis, your own shia imams have conflicts with narraters and calling them fakes yet still you follow the hadith. Why ? Because this is all you have got like your scholar say 😄. Bro. Get some knowledge. Instead of blindly following read the books and research and you will know.

[@sheryarkhan9328]

@@kausarbohra6168 1: Omar RA was promissed Jannah by Mohammad SAW 2: A path where Omar RA is on, shaitan flees by Mohammad SAW. 3: Hazrat Ali RA himself praised Omar RA on several occasions. 4: Given the title of Farooq by Muhammad SAW( The distinguisher Haq from Batil). So on the Day of Judgement you will know that how you rejected him when there were countless proofs. So yeah what you said is true. Its not the eyes but Hearts that are blind (Al Quran)

[@kausarbohra6168]

@@sheryarkhan9328 Imam Ali ( A.S ) never praised umar look at this reference from nahjul balagha Beware! By Allah, the son of Abu Quhafah (Abu Bakr)2 dressed himself with it (the caliphate) and he certainly knew that my position in relation to it was the same as the position of the axis in relation to the hand-mill. The flood water flows down from me and the bird cannot fly upto me. I put a curtain against the caliphate and kept myself detached from it. Then I began to think whether I should assault or endure calmly the blinding darkness of tribulations wherein the grown up are made feeble and the young grow old and the true believer acts under strain till he meets Allah (on his death). I found that endurance thereon was wiser. So I adopted patience although there was pricking in the eye and suffocation (of mortification) in the throat. I watched the plundering of my inheritance till the first one went his way but handed over the Caliphate to Ibn al-Khattab after himself. It is strange that during his lifetime he wished to be released from the caliphate but he confirmed it for the other one after his death. No doubt these two shared its udders strictly among themselves. This one put the Caliphate in a tough enclosure where the utterance was haughty and the touch was rough. Mistakes were in plenty and so also the excuses therefore. One in contact with it was like the rider of an unruly camel. If he pulled up its rein the very nostril would be slit, but if he let it loose he would be thrown. Consequently, by Allah people got involved in recklessness, wickedness, unsteadiness and deviation.Nevertheless, I remained patient despite length of period and stiffness of trial, till when he went his way (of death) he put the matter (of Caliphate) in a group4 and regarded me to be one of them. But good Heavens! What had I to do with this “consultation”? Where was any doubt about me with regard to the first of them that I was now considered akin to these ones? But I remained low when they were low and flew high when they flew high. One of them turned against me because of his hatred and the other got inclined the other way due to his in-law relationship and this thing and that thing, till the third man of these people stood up with heaving breasts between his dung and fodder. With him his children of his grand-father, (Umayyah) also stood up swallowing up Allah’s wealth5 like a camel devouring the foliage of spring, till his rope broke down, his actions finished him and his gluttony brought him down prostrate. That is the opinion of Imam towards all of three . Further if i consider your sunni view that prophet didn’t appoint an successor than how abu bakr dares to appoint umar and umar appoints uthman . We all know what happened at saqifa and how abu bakr came into power leaving behind the funeral of prophet .