Imprisoned by the Victorians (Brutal Prison Lives in Women's Gaols)

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@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
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@bold810
@bold810 6 ай бұрын
Oh, Aye. 😅
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely.... I'd 'like' more than once if possible! : D Such interesting content & your narration is very endearing
@angr3819
@angr3819 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. I quite often refer to your channel to the people of today, especially migrants in comments who go on about the slave trade and who think all white people benefitted from black slavery. They know what they are told about their history and even that in a distorted way. They don't know our history. They need to. I wish you covered earlier periods as well as later. The last workhouse here closed in 1972 but that is much shadow banned. Then there is the 1960's film Cathy Come Home, which shows that the respite most working class and poor had from the mid 1970's to the Mid 1980's was only one short period. Much much hidden, covered up deep poverty.
@angr3819
@angr3819 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 6 ай бұрын
My Sunday was tedious and unpleasant. This puts things into perspective. Thanks for the (as always) great work!
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
I wish you a better Monday. Best wishes.
@elizabethrobertson2045
@elizabethrobertson2045 6 ай бұрын
I used to work in HMP Barlinnie. This is a Victorian prison and is still in use. When inside the walls you can really feel how awful these places were during the victoriana times
@leighmcfarlane6840
@leighmcfarlane6840 5 ай бұрын
Crumlin Road Gaol in Belfast is exactly the same, hopefully they do something link that with Bar-L 😊
@ericamac3525
@ericamac3525 5 ай бұрын
Imagine if the walls in these awful places could speak. Am sure the tales would be so horrific that you’d run fast & far away, and never visit again 😢
@msfrred1st
@msfrred1st 5 ай бұрын
Is Bar L scheduled for closure?
@dinarusso3320
@dinarusso3320 5 ай бұрын
😢 I wouldn't be surprised if they were haunted from all the sad tragic energy
@Libertaro-i2u
@Libertaro-i2u 2 ай бұрын
Luckily, British jails have improved, can't say the same about jails in the United States unfortunately!
@colleenwilliams1452
@colleenwilliams1452 6 ай бұрын
I love your voice. It is very soothing. Great research and putting the video together.
@WooWoo-co4jf
@WooWoo-co4jf 6 ай бұрын
I totally agree, there are very few people I could listen to narrating a book. I enjoy listening and occasionally looking at the images from this channel as I work cutting & sticking:)
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😊 Glad you liked the presentation.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 6 ай бұрын
I love how he easily changes his voice to the accent of the person he speaks of.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 6 ай бұрын
​​@@WooWoo-co4jf Matchbox maker?! ; )
@Contessa6363
@Contessa6363 5 ай бұрын
At the Penhurst Prison in Philadelphia not only were the inmates to remain in silence but when they came out of their cells they had a hood over their head. Absolutely brutal 😮😮😮
@workingman-xl6xh
@workingman-xl6xh 6 ай бұрын
I couldn't have survived as an inmate.
@allandavis8201
@allandavis8201 6 ай бұрын
It’s a pity that the victorians didn’t reform the criminal code during the period of their era, I agree that crime should have consequences but the Victorians and beyond had a very strange approach to what “let the punishment fit the crime” really stood for, imagine today being sent to prison for stealing an apple 🍎 or imprisoned for being destitute, the whole system stank, and not just because of the unsanitary conditions that they were kept in. My first, but definitely not last, visit to your channel, I really like the way you narrate the stories of the subject, you have a great way of bringing the subject to life. Thanks very much for your hard work bringing this to life for us all. Subscribed. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇺🇦
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Welcome to the channel. I’m glad you’re interested in the history and like how it’s presented. Thank you!
@AmandaIsAwesome
@AmandaIsAwesome 6 ай бұрын
Love this channel!
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😊
@jasontuck-smith3896
@jasontuck-smith3896 6 ай бұрын
Another great vid FF! I have a pen pal in a female prison and I will so be telling her about the 'great hair battle(s)'! Nowadays they are all getting into squabbles about makeup and such! Funny how things haven't really changed that much.
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Good to know you found this history interesting.
@liscatcat8756
@liscatcat8756 5 ай бұрын
What did she do ?
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 6 ай бұрын
I live directly opposite the old St Clements Bow (E3) workhouse come asylum (fancy flats now). I know it wasnt a prison for criminals, but the poor were treated as criminals. 😮
@marysue7165
@marysue7165 5 ай бұрын
I hear arguments for arresting the homeless and can see many people think the same as the Victorians did
@mamasinger49
@mamasinger49 6 ай бұрын
As someone who has hair down to my waist, I can almost feel the trauma of having it all cut off like these women did. Yikes! As always an entertaining and informative video. Thank you so much.
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
You're welcome. It's the details like this I find so interesting in history. What people actually said, thought and felt.
@mamasinger49
@mamasinger49 6 ай бұрын
Completely agree, from the horses mouth so to speak.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 6 ай бұрын
Your crowning glory! : )
@rachelknight6028
@rachelknight6028 6 ай бұрын
I agree. My long black hair is to my tailbone (if you see Amy Lee from Eveanescence, you'll see mine is the same) I'm extremely proud of it. As a Christian, I was always brought up with long hair. It's referred to as a "crowning glory" and to have it forcibly cut from me, would break me. I'm certain that it was done so as to break the spirit from the start. Sad... real sad.
@the_even_toed_ungulate.
@the_even_toed_ungulate. 6 ай бұрын
Grows back, not like having a limb removed
@lisamongie5720
@lisamongie5720 6 ай бұрын
Prison life was brutal and boring. Working in factories was harsh and dabilitating. Workhouse was shaming and brutal. Unless you were rich I am pretty sure life was rough.
@manda322
@manda322 6 ай бұрын
I'd likely have been locked up in an asylum for 'moral insanity' because my daughter was born out of wedlock
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 5 ай бұрын
​@@manda322 & I
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 4 ай бұрын
For most of human history, life for most was nasty, brutish and short.
@terencehennegan1439
@terencehennegan1439 6 ай бұрын
Can you imagine the sex abuse that took place. The wardens perks so to speak.
@ericamac3525
@ericamac3525 5 ай бұрын
Terrifying prospect indeed 😢
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Brian 😊
@mijiyoon5575
@mijiyoon5575 6 ай бұрын
Old woman at 60? Maybe then but, not now
@manda322
@manda322 6 ай бұрын
Life expectancy at birth, in London in the 1880's was 42.6 years. A 60 year old was the equivalent of a 100 Yr old today
@markunsworth2364
@markunsworth2364 6 ай бұрын
You can be sure the abuse of these females was rife
@n3alsnail299
@n3alsnail299 6 ай бұрын
interesting fact. it is "mother's day" here in the States today. everyone give your mum some love. inside or outside the walls
@MegaLivingIt
@MegaLivingIt 6 ай бұрын
Thought so too since so many inmates and the children shown in the illustration! How on earth were the little kids taken care of there and what kind of food did they get? I believe it because those are old illustrations and heard children were sometimes in prison with their mothers.🌿
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 5 ай бұрын
​@@MegaLivingIt Most mum's with V young kids would have their children with them, but better be with mother than out on the streets which was where thousands of kid's were scraping by 😢
@ifeanyikennedy1047
@ifeanyikennedy1047 6 ай бұрын
Brixton prison still exists.
@delinquentinparadise
@delinquentinparadise 5 ай бұрын
And Wormwood Scrubs
@Leon-lt5gv
@Leon-lt5gv 4 ай бұрын
& winchester ' built around 1840 😁
@rachelknight6028
@rachelknight6028 6 ай бұрын
I have my hair to my tailbone... listening to how these women fought like mad when being forced to have their hair cut, must have been extremely traumatic for them. To have her crowning glory removed from the very start, would of been the beginning of her psychological spiral downward. No wonder they used any argument they had to hold on to it. 😢
@ginaandseason2774
@ginaandseason2774 5 ай бұрын
As well as no lady had shoet hair, so they would be recognized instantly as criminals
@Contessa6363
@Contessa6363 5 ай бұрын
Better than having your hair shaved during Chemo! Much worse 😭😭😭
@Dawna-gp1zk
@Dawna-gp1zk 5 ай бұрын
A woman of 60 years is not an 'old woman'.
@peachcore6455
@peachcore6455 4 ай бұрын
It was then
@francesbernard2445
@francesbernard2445 6 ай бұрын
"Often held in strict (or script) silence." Harsh or only confined which is harder on the human frame regardless if that is a woman or a man?
@CoralineJonesPinkPalace
@CoralineJonesPinkPalace 5 ай бұрын
60 isn't THAT OLD. 😮
@Dawna-gp1zk
@Dawna-gp1zk 5 ай бұрын
agree!! (not old at all)
@christinehall6441
@christinehall6441 5 ай бұрын
It was then with much shorter life expectancy.
@trishmcl9055
@trishmcl9055 6 ай бұрын
It is still all about punishment in america!😢
@cheetavontiebolt9971
@cheetavontiebolt9971 5 ай бұрын
Violation of human rights
@caroliner2029
@caroliner2029 4 ай бұрын
Wow, what an insight afforded to us here! Thank you Fact Feast Team. The first thing that strikes me is how after one week, the women would be malnourished and feeling it. They get no green, red or orange food, only porridge (carbohydrates), potatoes (carbohydrates), and some meat (some nutrients and protein). Where is the essential fat? Where is any vitamin C and B (apart from folate in the meat)? They had hardly any exposure to sunshine, so they'd be vitamin D deficient, and prone to disease. Poor women, regardless of their crimes, but then the average poor person in London probably ate just like them unless they lived in the countryside. The inmates would start to feel depressed most likely, and when they couldn't sleep at night, there was no bedside lamp to put on, no ability to read, no KZbin video to watch and no ability to get up and make a hot cup of tea on a freezing cold night. Being unable to speak with other women at most times of the day would have been very difficult for most women to bear.
@Khatoon170
@Khatoon170 6 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for your wonderful cultural documentary channel . As always iam gathering main information about topics you mentioned briefly here it’s first of all person who created prison as place of punishment and personal reform by English jurist and philosopher Jeremy Bentham. Female prison dame phylum’s frost center is front end maximum security prison for woman . It’s only one of two female prisons in state of Victoria goal, one or earliest buildings erected by British 1841 , had been first and only prison until 1937 .Elizabeth fry ( 1780 - 1840 ) she was English prison reformer , social reformer, philanthropist and Quaker. She was major driving force behind registration to improve treatment of prisoners, especially female in mates , such has been called ( angle of prison ) . She was instrumental in 1823goals act which man dated sex segregation of prisons and female warders for female inmates to protect them fr sexual exploitation. She kept extensive diaries , in which she wrote explicitly of need to protect female prisoners from rape and sexual exploitation. She is also helped to improve British hospital system and treatment to insane . She is also chief promoters of prison reform in Europe. Honestly she deserves honor as I read even in Johannesburg North Africa road named Elizabeth fry street, in USA road is named for fry in North Carolina. In Yorkshire Elizabeth fry ward scar borough general hospital. Really she is inspiring great woman. I hope you like my research. Good luck to you your dearest ones .
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching Khatoon.
@Sharon-marie
@Sharon-marie 6 ай бұрын
The picture of the female prisoners walking in the prison courtyard in circles had children with them wearing the same prison uniformas the women. Were these the children of the women? If so was this the only time of the day they got to see their young children in silence? I thought that babies born in prison were taken away at birth. Please could you give me anymore information on this please. Thankyou
@firecracker187
@firecracker187 6 ай бұрын
Happy day FF
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 6 ай бұрын
Have a nice day Firecracker!
@tonibarrone854
@tonibarrone854 6 ай бұрын
The issue of getting her hair is not vanity. In the Bible the hair is the crowning beauty of a woman.
@bold810
@bold810 6 ай бұрын
Mrs. Lettsum. 🎉
@Wheelchairspeeder
@Wheelchairspeeder 4 ай бұрын
What gets me is that crime back then would be something as basic as stealing boots or a shawl or a loaf of bread could land you in prison or possibly Australia for trying to survive that's nuts..but now indays petty larceny similar to this can still land you in jail 😢..and haha me with my near chin length 1930s long bob close to clara bows would be considered radical and racy to them.. but is outdated and frumpy now but even I knew the hair cut theyd have gotten was to prevent lice and still have been a tad longer than my current cut..if I was ran in back then for apple larceny I'd take the stupid cut just to get it over with lol..hair grows back..😅but 60 old ?? My mom at 65 must've been ancient if she was in the clink during those days 😅
@peachcore6455
@peachcore6455 4 ай бұрын
Insane how much better, in this account at least, prisoners were treated as compared to contemporaries at the workhouse. The food rations alone were far better.
@bilindalaw-morley161
@bilindalaw-morley161 6 ай бұрын
What a telling taste of the times that women rebelliously and proudly claimed rheir husbands owned their hair(and the rest of them!)
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy
@LaurieValdez-zk3dy 6 ай бұрын
😢
@sadielevens1144
@sadielevens1144 6 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤😢
@mijiyoon5575
@mijiyoon5575 5 ай бұрын
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@FactFeast
@FactFeast 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Miji 😊
@anthonyjanney6022
@anthonyjanney6022 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I'll get It they are sailing the hair Over seas if I were the case favorite color from balls for disease
@jillr.austin1103
@jillr.austin1103 6 ай бұрын
Nowadays ,your hair isn't you. If you were sick and lost it all You would still be the person You.had.always been.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 5 ай бұрын
Tell that to anyone losing their hair, the sentiment behind your comment is true, but it is a sore loss to anyone IMO
@mikeyfn-a6684
@mikeyfn-a6684 4 ай бұрын
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting in death row You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton The money feels good And your life you like it well But surely your time will come As in Heaven as in Hell You see, he feels like Ivan Born under the Brixton sun His game is called survivin' At the end of the harder they come You know it means no mercy They caught him with a gun No need for the Black Maria Goodbye to the Brixton sun You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun You can crush us, you can bruise us And even shoot us But oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Shot down on the pavement Waiting in death row His game was survivin' As in Heaven as in Hell You can crush us, you can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton Oh-oh, the guns of Brixton
@Psyche0delic
@Psyche0delic 6 ай бұрын
The most disgusting part about all this is married women's bodies were not their own and belonged to their husbands. This is horrible and surely in 2024 there would not be any laws telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies...oh wait, that's right, in the US there are.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 5 ай бұрын
Go to another state
@tombillard5264
@tombillard5264 6 ай бұрын
prsion is supposed to be about punishment, that is the rehab, if it doesn't affect you towards behaving then should never leave aka three strikes
@dinarusso3320
@dinarusso3320 5 ай бұрын
😮 back then, those women were probably stealing just to survive the miserable poverty in those days. Most of them were hardly criminals.
@dinarusso3320
@dinarusso3320 5 ай бұрын
Your philosophy applies NOW when it's a lot easier for people to find steady work and means for a healthy life. Back then they sent people to prison for stealing food or clothing
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 4 ай бұрын
Are the prison guards giving the true picture I wonder in these accounts? Are modern prisons much better? There's nothing about toilet arrangements for the women. There's no indication there was much violence or neglect or how mental illness was dealt with. The food doesn't seem to include any fruit or vegetables (necessary for health) though one image appeared to show cabbages being grown in the grounds outside of the prison. Another picture shows women exercising while holding the hands of their children but there's no mention of children in prison. It's surprising that the women were allowed to have scissors for their tasks. I don't think that would be allowed now. I'm sure I would not survive in these prisons but hair cutting would be the least of my problems. It's just hair. It will regrow, and they are allowed bonnets to cover their heads it seems. It doesn't mention how short the hair would be cut.
@rob20452
@rob20452 5 ай бұрын
And if prison was like this now instead of a holiday camp the crime would drop very quickly, until the softness of their rights stops they will carry on offending,.
@sTraYa249
@sTraYa249 5 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, the death penalty doesn't even stop recidivism
@dinarusso3320
@dinarusso3320 5 ай бұрын
The people who call it holiday camp have usually never been there 😂
@heliotropezzz333
@heliotropezzz333 4 ай бұрын
The Tories were the dominant political party in these times.
@Libertaro-i2u
@Libertaro-i2u 2 ай бұрын
Prisons in the US are just as bad, or worse than Victorian jails.
@liscatcat8756
@liscatcat8756 5 ай бұрын
Now prisoners, have more than i do tv, game stations plenty of food , no back breaking work ... disgusting
@Dawna-gp1zk
@Dawna-gp1zk 5 ай бұрын
Removal of freedom is horrific
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