Improving Dragon Ball GT

[@awesomenugget7487]

Would've liked it to focus on the next gen. Goten was hardly seen. When he was,he was getting his ass beat. Trunks had screen time,but he was somewhat irrelevant in the shadow dragon arc. Bulla was seen once,pan was over used. Uub was nerfed. We didn't even get to see Gotenks! Because goku always insisted on fighting alone.

[@goofygangchronicles1332]

Awesome Nugget exactly I would've had a completely young next gen cast Goku could've been foresseing everything but not as big of a character he's great but damn how good do they want the dude to be he achieves everything that gets boring

[@ryank.edwards1813]

Remember when GT teased Adult Gotenks but used the excuse that their energy was too low.

[@awesomenugget7487]

Ryan K. Edwards I cry. Yes I remember that. Like he couldn't have been better than what they were separated.

[@PsychoIncarnate666]

Well, he wasn't a fighter at the end of Z. Although they should have had adult Gotenks

[@MattySadler]

I've always thought seeing a "next gen" team with Trunks, Goten, Marron, Uub, Bulla and Pan could be good, maybe with a couple of original characters thrown in as well.

[@karhammer]

In my opinion, GT is really not THAT bad, there are still parts that are quite enjoyable, but of course it has it's problems

[@vividlantern8854]

The first half is garbage. The second half is actually watchable and entertaining. It also has a lot of throwbacks to the past animes, like previous villains returning in the Super 17 arc.

[@Hacksaw_HIM_Thuggin]

If GT wouldn’t have had kid goku it would’ve been a lot more enjoyable from the beginning. The Baby Arc is awesome, super 17 had its up and downs and shenron arc should’ve ended with Gogeta. Obviously there’s more I can explain, but overall GT has a lot more downs than ups. It’s about a 3.5/10 it just isn’t good for how much potential was lost.

[@BishopM1]

About 80% of it is steaming garbage.

[@justanormalguy3595]

@@BishopM1 You mean 100% of GT was trash.

[@somedokkanguy]

@@justanormalguy3595 Super has loads of problems too

[@Suhaibhh]

i swear half of the GT haters did not even watch it they just hear what the community says about it and copy and besides i thought it wasnt that bad ya it had problems but what show doesnt

[@db-oc9ih]

That's true.

[@altinademaj1737]

I watched it and the only good thing was SSJ4 Baby and Shadow Dragons. Everything is pure shit.

[@Lono69]

I think it's true everyone I've talked to in real life hates it but never watched it. I didn't even watch it back in the day. I started it then gave up after a few episodes. I only recently watched it with my 3 year old niece cause she loved goku being a kid. It starts out pretty bad but once you get to like the baby arc it starts feeling a lot like DBZ again and it wasn't bad. The first few arcs are painful though.

[@MikeBNumba6]

Lauxe the funny thing about GT is that it did exactly what super didn't do. Meaning what everyone complains about Super, GT did. Example GT did the power scaling correctly. And what happened? Goku was far stronger then everyone else that everyone else basically became useless.

[@TEN21Portraits]

Nope, I watched it, didn't like it.

[@andrestewart2316]

Cue the toxic argument between which is "better" GT or Super in the comments sigh... :/. I watched GT personally I didn't really like it but I didn't flat out hate it, SSj4 Gogeta was the pinnacle of power and the ending tho sad was spot on (I just wished other characters played a bigger role outside of lending power to Goku, I'm still miffed there was no adult SSj3 Gotenks and Uub was flat out wasted). While I enjoy DBS it's a fundamentally flawed series especially when compared to other animes today, let's be honest the fact it has "DB" in its name is one of the main reasons why its so popular plus ANYTHING was better than DB evolution ugh... then thanks to the BoG and RoF films revitalizing the franchise once more, the writing was literally on the wall!. Fans should enjoy what they want tho (its all part of the SAME franchise after all) personally it would've of been cool if one of the time rings was the GT timeline.

[@mannyfresh03]

Andre Stewart my thoughts exactly

[@obamadrip4021]

Basically GT and Super are part of the same timeline, same anime(in context), and they should treat the two shows the same. If thats tje case, I agree even if this is not what you're saying.

[@ASGDLaw]

Pranav Sriram Same. I like Super more but when someone hates on GT it triggers me. The people who hates on GT can't even make their own series or characters that GT made. I like DBZ>DBS>DB>DBGT I like all the shows very dearly

[@fredv6237]

@@ASGDLaw I'm with you on this one.

[@jantheking7028]

@@pranavsriram4794 I like DBS more than DBGT, but I always hate when other people hate on something for no reason.

[@hamza361]

Black star DB - Trash except Ledgic and Rildo Bebi Saga - Fantastic Super17 - Trash but some parts of the fight was entertaining with SSJ4 Goku Evil Dragons - First half was garbage, second half was phenomenal with the last 3 dragons and an amazing ending.

[@benzobenz1944]

Hamza Adrees basically in a nutshell Characters are phenomenal, the fights are actually like DBZ fights and story of GT fluctuates

[@MrThwippy]

Hamza Adrees If you think the first arc is trash you must not like Dragon Ball or have not even watched it

[@hamza361]

Edwarku I have seen it and the first arc of the original was its weakest point though not trash.

[@brolysuckswang2165]

The final fight was basically the same as Z,s but worse. Vegeta gives Goku time for the Spirit Bomb and gets beat, but Goku gets the Spirit Bomb anyway.

[@Holdenheroofheroes]

Hamza Adrees I agree that watching SSJ4 Gogeta beat Omega Shenron's ass was good

[@Boom23648]

Honestly I think Uub should have been the main character. Make characters like Goku and Vegeta more side characters while the next generation gets the spotlight (Pan, Trunks, Goten, Bra) I think Uub would be fun to focus on because it will help flesh his character out and give him a purpose. Maybe he wants to prove he’s a powerful warrior or is burdened by his past of villainy. There’s a lot that could motivate him to going on these quests! Hell, I think Pan could have filled a sort of Vegeta role. Think about it... Pan really wanted to be trained under Goku but was brushed aside in favor of Uub. I feel like there would be some resentment and she would constantly try to prove she is stronger than him. Then as the series goes on they slowly become friends as they continue to have adventures. Also giving Trunks, Goten, and Bra more things to do would have been great. I like their personalities as is in the series, I just want to see more of them!

[@ultrascarlet5275]

Wouldn't have happened, they're not brave enough to make a brown guy the main character sadly.

[@quepingabrothe]

If you really think about it, the Blutz Waves were not that much of a foul. He had to do what he had to do to get his TAIL. That’s the main thing. So he needed assistance. It just so happens that because it’s Bulma and she’s using this amazing technology it can be perceived as cheats/hacks. I get it. But Goku had to get assistance himself from Old Kai to get his tail out. Also, both Goku and Vegeta went through the SAME process to achieve Super Saiyan 4 and based off that alone, you can infer that they both had the latent, built up raw power needed to unlock the form. The steps were-Get tail out, go Ape, then go Ape gold, then finish it off.

[@lebrunjemz1877]

This Comment section is proof that being a smart db fan is like being the smartest person on the short bus

[@JonnyAugz]

Lebrun Jemz It's like bragging about who has the best type if cancer.

[@MajinMan888]

It's true

[@dayshunsmith2443]

lmao

[@SSJ2Warrior]

SSJ4 was the only good thing about GT

[@galio2012]

SSJ2 Warrior ssj4 was one of the worst things out of GT

[@pasdan4985]

SSJ2 Warrior it and the idea behind baby and the shadow dragons were also good

[@kash2978]

Galiö Ssj4 is the 3rd best Saiyan form in the dragon ball franchise!!!!! 1:Ultra Instinct 2.SSJB or SSJKX20 or Maby ssjg IDFK but i know that ssj4 is #3

[@galio2012]

Future Gohan idk. I didmt like the throwing a mullet on someone, giving them bodyhair and eyeliner combo. The david bowie fused with Ron Jeremy look didnt do ot for me.

[@TheMisleduser]

did fusion reborn come out before Gogeta in GT? don't feel like looking it up.

[@wsx141]

Make Goku an adult, get rid of Pan, and make the Z fighters relevant. Also, Vegeta should actually earn SSJ4

[@pasdan4985]

wsx141 id say change pan and not necessarily have vegeta earn ssj4 but he should get it earlier

[@wsx141]

By getting it earlier, he should still transform like Goku did. Using a machine felt extremely out of place for Vegeta. What do you mean by changing Pan? You mean her personality?

[@anotheraccount2052]

wsx141 make Pan more like Goku and Gohan training to best Uub who took her grandpa and have her want to fight like a true Sayian have her be much like a Goku personality wise and after SHE is the one who gets the torch

[@SBoundless]

wsx141 Also give Vegeta his original hair style. The one in GT looked trash along with his mustache.

[@bartek8309]

@wsx But Pan is canon, you can't get rid of her

[@mathew_monkbot1018]

Dragon ball gt needs a kai version much more than z. Mostly with the dubbing and cleaning the more awkward animations (boom para para).

[@ricardocisnero3931]

not possible cause kai was made for z to cut out all the filler scenes and episodes and focus more on the manga, but gt is all technically filler and it has no manga. So if they did make kai gt there would be no episodes XD

[@mathew_monkbot1018]

Guys I meant edit the animation for some of the weaker scenes not like cut shit out. Trim was a poor choice of words to be honest.

[@trofulds]

Jay-T Kuhn How did showing the true story, characterization and motivations make DBZ worse tho?

[@ajarofpickles2826]

There is a reason people say the “GT” in this shows name stands for Goku time

[@pasdan4985]

A jar of pickles super has been more “goku time-y” tho, hes basically the only character who had done anything of value

[@nerigiron7704]

It stands for grand tour

[@MoarRobots]

I wondered why Super wasn't name that

[@lordcooler7637]

It actually stands for Grand Trash.

[@wadedewell]

Dante Pasquantonio i agree dbsuper sucks and is only goku

[@ozero00rockon]

We’re all fans here, I feel GT could be made better if they actually took the time to write the story and not rush things through and stray far away from nostalgia. It would be good to have some easter eggs here and there but GT was literally Dragon Ball meets Dragon Ball Z. The wish that made Goku a kid was not necessary and the whole show was conflicted with too many plots as well as plot holes. Super Saiyan 4 was amazing though but the color palettes could’ve been done better. Now for Dragon Ball Super, the animation needs to be worked on, the plots definitely need to be worked on a whole bunch more and the plot holes become consistent just like GT. The show purposely puts up plot irrelevance to make the story seem progressive such as Goku always keeping his guard down or Vegeta still wanting to surpass Goku. Gohan quitting to become a family man and later coming back to fighting. However, I’m nitpicking only at Super. The real issues are the plot irrelevances to the stories that was never explained such as S-Cells and never exploring the Super Saiyan God form. The Saiyan lore was completely sweeped. Zamasu, great villain and all but he just hates mortals when there is no reason given behind that. Black Goku was an obvious nod to Xicor and the ideas of multiple universes was genius. However, outside of these ideas, they never really implement anything new, and the transformations for the series pretty much seem to be only reason why people watch them. It’s cool but it doesn’t really head anywhere but a whole mix and repeat. Until they reach the fusion technique. It’s all consistent and GT and Super’s stories aren’t really made for adults per say. That’s my opinion but that’s my critique on both of the shows.

[@ozero00rockon]

Lloyd Irving The lack of villainy and only having Zamasu would be due to Super bringing old villains back and not inventing anything new. In my opinion, it’s just fan feed but it’s really interesting I won’t lie. GT was the same but it was innovative and brought new things to the table mainly for plot convenience until the ending it started getting jumbled and rushed. Toei should take care their time and call for breaks to perfect these things.

[@aozorahaou2643]

I felt Goku Black was a nod to the fanmade Evil Goku with the red hair Super Saiyan form but I guess he can be considered a nod to both

[@AcidLEO24]

Hey geekdom thank you for all of your hard work man! I’m really enjoying all of your content. It’s a real treat to log on to KZbin and see a new high quality video almost everyday.... you spoiling us we are unworthy!

[@connoisseuroftigolbitts]

Dragon Ball GT greatest moment was when Gogeta's Hair turned red in SS4 form! 💇 ::Runs:: 🏃 🏃🏃🏃

[@DBK_Productions]

Lmao what does this even mean

[@DinoCoke]

I'm a fan of DBS and I think it's equel to DB and DBZ but: - In the first 3 arcs, animation and art was done poorly - Way too tight of a schedule - Inconcistancies - Random Powerups - SSB became overused - Why didn't Trunks just stay in the present? - People became way too op (but that's to be expected because otherwhise it would be boring) - Goten is a waste of space

[@DinoCoke]

DBZ had a lot of problems too: - Cell Saga art was 50% good, 50% terrible - random powerups - Goku always took way too long to arrive (they fixed that in Kai but still) - Death became a joke - Cool characters that were thrown in the trash - Inconcistancies - Buu had way too many transformations - Gotenks' SSJ3 - Dr. Gero created cyborgs that were way more powerful then they should've been - (Personal Opinion: I hate namek, way too blue) - The filler sucked ass

[@stealthbrandon]

well I mean Dr Gero android have to be powerful or they wouldn't had an arch. so that understandable far as we know is the only person who was strong enough to even fight a super Saiyajin was freezia and freezia got his ass beat lol . need something to fill that gap

[@deusrex]

Piccolo in the Buu saga became more of a Master Roshi type, teaching Goten and Trunks. This character arc stemmed back from him training Gohan in the Saiyan saga, so a great resolution for him would be if he became satisfied teaching the younger generation. So I found it unfortunate that this wasn't continued into GT, with Goten, Trunks and Pan or even Uub during later GT.

[@MasterShwagg3524]

My list is almost the same as yours with a few more stuff. 1. No Kid Goku 2. Remember that Goku is not the only character in the show 3. Scrap the Super #17 arc in favor of something else. 4. Give Vegeta SSJ3 5. Explain the existence of the Black Star Dragon Balls 6. Rename SSJ4 as True Super Saiyan, Ultimate Super Saiyan, or Primal Super Saiyan

[@Maniacsurvivor]

Something I really liked about GT that no one seems to mention, is the good ending. It felt like a tribute to the good old days.

[@bd010590]

GT stands for Geekdom Time

[@lordcooler7637]

Don't insult Geekdom.

[@hellscream4354]

Zelleon Gexcior Lmao you know all of them, congrats!

[@numberfourtytwo]

I remember liking Pan when I watched the series, and was annoyed that they never let her do anything, also her never transforming into a Super Saiyan.

[@anaveragehedgehog]

To be honest- I liked the fact that Goku got turned into a kid- It was like a fresh start for him, like in that what if by Daiku Theories DBS, where Goku was reborn with his memories and powers- It was a unique idea in my opinion- But anyway here's my 5 things I would change: 5: Give Goten more spotlight- we barely see him. (I'm just agreeing with what Awesome Nugget said 4 years ago-) 4: DO NOT NERF UUB 3: Just fix the plotholes- 2: Write Pan better- and make it a better pace- 1: When they end it, make a sequel series focusing on Goku Jr and Vegeta Jr!

[@jacobhatcher7238]

Here's what I would add/change: Goku teaches Uub the instant transmission technique so that why Goku with his bottomless pit of a stomach isn't eating everything Uub's starving village has. This way they both can teleport to Kami's lookout to train and Goku can still be a good father and grandparent. I would also turn Goku into the mentor role, he wouldn't have as many fights (except when he learns Super Saiyan 4) and it would give Pan and Uub a Hero's Journey storyline. The main group would be Uub, Pan, Goten, Bra, and Trunks. Gotten and Trunks aren't friends anymore so when they have to team up it mirror's their fathers, and it would make Gotenks more meaningful. Pan would be rewritten so she's actually a feminist, no more "Girls can fight too, but hitting girls is wrong!" crap that she's always spouting off. Bra and Uub can have a flirty relationship if people like the sound of that. Pan and Bra also get to turn Super Saiyan at some point in the series. The overall premise for each arc of GT can stay, the execution of each arc need changing. Goku can be turned into a kid again but changes back into an adult after turning SS4. Also SS4 would have a new name, it has nothing to do with the first 3 and is related more to the Great Ape so maybe something like True Super Saiyan, or Saiyan of Legends. There would be a new arc explaining the black star balls and the search for them would be drastically changed so it doesn't feel like the search for fake Namek arc. Baby's arc would pretty much be the same except for that stupid ass board game that happens, those two new characters can just be forgotten. I've only seen up to episode 35 of GT so I can't really say how I would change the episodes past that.

[@krx50]

GT had problems, but if you ask me, it didn't have nearly as many problems as people say it did. Of course, there's plenty of room for improvement, but I genuinely think GT is more good than bad. If I could improve GT, I would've made the series longer, given more screen time to Trunks and Goten in the later parts, including having them fuse into Gotenks, and make Vegeta turn Super Saiyan 4 earlier so we could've gotten more fights with him like that

[@youngbunt]

When I was younger and watched GT. I didn't have much problems with the series, just me? don't see why everyone hated it so much. Not saying it was perfect, but it wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be I think.

[@latexalex_2222]

Bunt Scottish Gamer adding to what mauricepop said i watched GT as a kid too and maybe that might be why i liked goku turning to a kid and the comedy. Aside from some boring epidodes in space GT isnt really that bad as a stand alone series id say.

[@MikeBNumba6]

When I was a kid I loved GT. And alot of that had to do with it being in Japanese and it was hard as hell to find the episodes. But that's also what made it great because I never knew what the whole series was about and it had this mystery to it. So as I watched episodes out of order in Japanese it was really good. Then when I saw the dub, god it was bad.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Is cool to hate GT...just wait a few years for people doing the same to Super

[@tensaantares]

I agree with your list. I especially like the last one or no.1 with the idea of 2 Golden Great Apes fighting. I think that if Goku was still kept as a kid the SSJ4 transformation should have essentially been the same as SSJ3 Goku and the "kid" version of SSJ3 with kid Goku and Gotenks without the need to make Goku an adult temporarily. And hell, keep SSJ4 hair golden, as a sort of connection to the Golden Great Ape and the idea mentioned in the video about the true super saiyan form. I assume with something like that it might not be considered a cheat for Vegeta to transform like he did in the DBGT. *Slaps forehead* Vegeta could simply use the technique he used when he transformed into his Great Ape form with his fight with Goku...No need for Bulma.

[@Igneel-hq4dg]

I doubt believe Vegeta cheated to get SS4. He didn't skip a bunch of levels, he skipped only SS3 and can you blamd the guy? That transformation is completly useless most of the time. The reason I don't call it cheating is because he only use that machin to go Great Ape, he had no other choice since he had no tail, thus he needed to use the machine just go great ape. After that it was all his duing. Going Golden Great Ape and then SS4, he figured that out byhimself. The machin didn't turn him into an SS4, it turned him into a great ape, which allowed him to go SS4. I'm more of a Goku guy, but personally I do think Vegeta gets too much shit for this, even though it's not as bad as most people think

[@Igneel-hq4dg]

Lloyd Irving People did bitch about it, just not as much and I think it completly died down when Vegeta went SSG in the manga

[@ftu2021]

but how did he achieve SSG tho? they never said they performed the ritual or what so ever. Vegeta left with Whis ASAP there was no way Goku even had time to perform the ritual.

[@Igneel-hq4dg]

Feng He probably can access it by using god ki. There's a difference between regular SSG and Ritual SSG. Goku needed the ritual, because he didn't have God Ki yet, but Vegeta got God threw some other way and gained access to the form. That's how I see things

[@Jose-se9pu]

Also, what is this "Vegata wouldnt cheat", excuse, what in hell was the majin boost in Z???

[@TheRealObi-wanKenobi]

(DBS ANIME)God ki doesn't give you the the SSG transformation vegeta doesn't have it because he didn't do the ritual but he has SSB because SSB doesn't have anything to do with SSG SSB is the same as SS but with God ki vegeta got god ki by training with Whis and he already had SS

[@shaung.5266]

I liked gt... minus the first ark of hunting the black star dragon balls. Baby on up was acceptable and fairly enjoyable. Come on ssj4 and golden ape

[@golddawg2778]

Okay the last one is bullshit, Vegeta used a false moon and explained the whole blooditzpulse whatever bullshit to turn into a Great Ape against Goku in dbz.. it wasn't the fact that he used a device to do so, vegeta has a history of using devices to improve himself umm let's see frieza's healing pod, bulma's space ship which includes a gravity chamber, the capsule corp training room which is a gravity chamber, those are cases where vegeta used technology to advance himself

[@dominikesquibel]

And honestly even letting bobbiddi control him if you think about it

[@wickiezulu]

Along with the Golden Great Ape battle, wouldn't another way for Vegeta to achieve SSJ4 be for him and Goku to merge as Golden Great Ape Gogeta to fight Omega Shenron before (via Goku) becoming merged SSJ4 Gogeta, with Vegeta gaining SSJ4 and helping to distract Omega Shenron while Goku is preparing the Spirit Bomb after they defused?

[@Tehutidg07]

One more thing... Make vegeta ssj 3 against super 17

[@freck2614]

Do you remember this

[@jamainegardner4193]

In Defense of GT: 1. Vegeta just used the machine to get the tail back, which isn't exactly something a Saiyan could do. Other than that Vegeta's transformation was down to him(BTW who would've liked to see Omega vs Golden Great Ape Vegeta?) 2.Pan may have been annoying but at least she ain't Caulifla

[@diezgp]

I like the GT music. I sort of miss GT now, for some reason.

[@rhysgarland9295]

The SS4 Vegeta issue could have been solved quite easily. Vilma could have made a machine to give Vegeta back his tail, he already has a technique to trigger the transformation!

[@codebreaker4073]

Best Things About GT. 1. SSJ4. 2. Baby. 3. Bond Between Goku and Pan. 4. Amazing Japanese Soundtrack. 5. Concept Of Shadow Dragons. 6. Ending (Best Ending In Whole Franchise). 7. Opening Song (Dan Dan Kokoro). 8. Promotes The Family Relationship Instead of Training and Retardness. 9. Character Designs. 10. Majuub and Gogeta.

[@Ucey365]

Very good video & very valid points of positive criticism. You touched on nearly everything that bothered me. I'm looking forward to your Dragon Ball Super video.

[@danielvasquez3980]

We can all agree that super is better than gt

[@thundercat123studios]

fUtuRe trUNks I agree, but there are many who don't agree with us

[@RealsleepyAC]

fUtuRe trUNks he’ll no

[@ultrainstinctgoku1926]

Looking back at GT makes me grateful for Super existing. I just want to see Super continue to succeed

[@tdk2440]

No its not lol

[@RealsleepyAC]

Ultra Instinct Goku super is ass

[@kaneuchiha1368]

Thanks for always making my day with your videos!

[@landon7823]

That intro is inspired by Comicsexplained I assume.

[@GarfieldGuy20]

Super Saiyan Dog your profile picture is my lock screen lol

[@AccurateToriyama]

More like ComicSexPained

[@wrestlingphenom8]

Do you think maybe the resurrection F movie could have ruined the SSG forms or status? If they would have used SSG instead of blue, like a mastered version or close to being mastered, this may of helped clear up the confusion of the forms and other plot holes. I’m personally a fan of SSG and seeing it get dicked so early didn’t feel right. They could have given it the same sort of treatmeant SSj got. Then built up to blue like they did SSJ2. Love the channel man, you’re the only channel I have the notification bell for cause you have the best quality vids!

[@jeanosorio1]

I loved GT why the hate?

[@latexalex_2222]

Jean Osorio pretty much anything having to do with space

[@Jose-se9pu]

Is cool to hate GT

[@tigerbabe7777]

Dosent mean you can’t like the show because it’s your opinion, opinions exist people, but don’t get me wrong I don’t care for GT

[@genkaiba15]

I agree with the majority of this list. I would move the Super 17 arc to number 1 because I loathe how that whole arc was handled (besides the doctors teaming up...that was cool), and I would have either had Super Saiyan 5 take out Omega or leave Bulma's line about it out (because it's wasted hype), but this is a very very solid list. SSJ4 Vegeta didn't bother me, but if it bothers other people I think that's ok, too. But mostly just Super 17. Bad pacing. Hell was totally different. Frieza became a regenerator. The second 17 model (if Lapis and Lazuli are reworked twins, how is there another 17?), the fact that is directly responsible for shadow dragons....it's just a giant mess. I wanna give you props though, man. You do your homework and I enjoy your content. Well done.

[@b.gaxherri6754]

Can you do one video about this:what if after super or in super we get a new GT maybe with another name and arcs and ssj4 gettin' in that would totally be awesome and i think the people would love it.SSJ4 Mixed with Blue Awesome Man!!!!

[@neverknowsbest.]

SOMETHING THAT ALWAYS BOTHERED ME ABOUT GT WAS THE FUCKING AGE INCONSISTENCIES PAN WAS 4 AT THE END OF DBZ BUT IN THE DUB SHE WAS 13 OR 14 IN GT WHY TRUNKS IS 23 AND GOTEN 21 BUT IF THE DUB WAS BEING CONSISTENT THEY WOULD'VE BEEN 10 YEARS OLDER THAN WHAT THEY WERE that always bothered me

[@hash7703]

Super is a improvised gt

[@anthonymuc]

Maan I've been waiting for you to reach 400k and now I realise I totally missed it. Anyways, congrats bro I'll be there when you get to 500k!

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

DBGT deserves a reboot.

[@curneldoyle]

Love this video! You made some very good points as always. Love the channel bro

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

I can just see a GT fanboy calling Geekdom a GT hater.

[@tydyman2003]

I'm actually rewatching GT and it really isn't that bad but it could've definitely use some work

[@SkylarWarrior]

Pan should’ve gone ssj (maybe if you were to push it, ss2) and should of had a higher base power , maybe 2x stronger than base goku ( maybe after a power up after saving a planet and have her potential unlocked like guru did.) But hey, that’s just my opinion.

[@bartek8309]

@Belle She should have SSJ2 from the start, since she was born from Gohan SSJ2's sperm

[@SkylarWarrior]

Bartek Maybe not from the start, but with a little training

[@bartek8309]

@Belle "little" indeed But heck, just take take to make her mystic, really what bad could happened? (renembers mystic Future Gohan in Shin Budokai 2) Oh damn my life

[@dark_taco]

Honestly very excited to see your analysis of Super so far, great video as always keep up the good work brother!

[@fictionalfan7024]

Oh shit congrats for 400,000 subs

[@robbiesmith1086]

Hey Geekdom, I really enjoyed the video! Not sure is you're doing something different, but the production on this video looked really good.

[@iGokuBlack]

Dragon Ball GT Legacy: *Super Saiyan 4*

[@YVNGHov]

lll-ハンク-lll and Baby

[@7sN1412]

Great video and I respect your opinion even if I disagree with a lot of what you said I think turning Goku into a kid is one of the best things to happen in GT, because the entire point of that is "what if Goku lost everything that he achieved throughout the series" and that's exactly what happened. It made him weaker in many ways and that's something that Dragon Ball needs especially with how much stronger they got. Also I think it's perfect that Vegeta put his pride aside and turned ssj4 because of something else other than his own power. To me that was an indication of his development and it worked Again I respect your opinion and I liked this video a lot. It's always nice to hear people's ideas for a story.

[@lukky6648]

There should have been more like 300 episodes because the adventure was too short

[@Zigulart]

I don't get why so many fans hate the idea of Goku being a kid again. I've actually rewatched the series and I think that wish was what made the bond between him and Pan so unique in GT. If he was an adult there it just wouldn't have the same effect. I think this complaint is kind of nitpicking, but that's just me.

[@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969]

Just a reminder, without SSJ4 no one would pay attention to GT *whatsoever*

[@ultrainstinctgoku1926]

Mr. Sauceman X Backup Account truth

[@TheHumbledTeacher]

Exaaaaactly

[@prl4122]

Mr. Sauceman X Backup Account yeah but without z no one cares about Super it gt they both ride off of the popularity of their predecessor while z was able to stand on its own aside dragon ball

[@GuyInArmor]

But with one form the series is given tons of popularity. SSJ4 never got boring in the show or in games. SSJ God and SSJ Blue have been boring for awhile now. Goku is just same old Goku in those forms, same for Vegeta, whereas SSJ4 was a whole character. Ultra Instinct's character changing qualities and striking badassery is what the god forms should've had from the beginning but completely lacked.

[@urbanpie1826]

Eh, I remember GT with Dandan.

[@J3erryOGG]

I love your content, keep it up hermano! Much love from Mexico!

[@PIndropKing44]

Goku being a kid again was what I loved most about GT...

[@critchblackpoolful]

4 likes in 3 years tells you how many people agree with you

[@coryanderson9181]

I like uub form with fat buu but ur right they nerfed his character. The idea of combining them again and giving uub the power up was one of the better ideas of the series

[@Kosm1c_Toast]

Who else likes ssj4 gogeta

[@bartek8309]

@Austin I AM SSJ4 Gogeta!

[@Kosm1c_Toast]

Bartek nice

[@matthewbianco613]

also, three rules to follow 1)Never talk about GT 2)Never talk about GT 3)Follow rules 1-2

[@josephrose4061]

Well, I Love Dragon Ball GT A Lot.

[@thealphaoozaru7755]

Lol I get the joke 😂

[@aditya-dk6rw]

@@thealphaoozaru7755 He/she not joking

[@nicolarose1327]

Hi Geekdom101 love your videos I just wanna put this out there have you ever realised when frieza and goku have been together we always see a new transformation like Super Saiyain ,SSGSS and Ultra Instinct its just a theory of mine

[@Broku72]

#1 don’t make Goku a kid. #2 make side characters more prevalent. #3 take out first arc bleh. #4 make Uub relevant in terms of power. #5 less Pan #6 Segway into Goku and vegetas kids slowing becoming the main characters and fighters. #7 after shadow dragon saga don’t have it be the end where Goku absorbs dragon balls, new arc. #8 bring in more lore in the namekians and the saiyans or others like friezas and Buus race. #9 Goku legit dies in the end and it is finally up to the next generation to take over and take gokus place. #10 with Goku and vegeta dead, end the series with Goku and vegeta finally getting their final rematch. As SSJ4s they end up destroying eachother in the fight. Since they have both died in the afterlife, no chance for them to come back.

[@bartek8309]

@brotto yeah, pan should be a support character

[@stealthbrandon]

That awful writing perma death because people fought in the after life literally your already dead that would require a massive rectcon the amount of time King Kai been blown up and not disappeared . it the after life by very definition you can't die . Super added existence erasure but only for Gods of destruction or xeno it would make zero sense for mortals to have that kinda power . when they've been dead before and it never happened.

[@starkiller600]

Completely agree on the next generation angle. I don't know why the creators of this series are so unwilling to give more of a spotlight to the younger characters, and continuously love centering everything around Goku.

[@-m.d.n-9019]

My opinion , might still get Hate . I like GT better than Super...but both are Crap though with some Cool things in them and have the same problems too. I feel like Team Four Star respected the Dragon Ball series more than GT and Super.

[@anotheraccount2052]

Mr Unknown TFS Like GT is fans making a show GT had to make a new story TFS had to dub it over with there own acting and writing both are different completely Super respecting the past but unlike many fans are moving on with a new concepts

[@prl4122]

Jeffplayz 1234 I don’t know, the funny thing is that people tend to think that people don’t like super mainly due to them not being able to move on from z but I think the reason Super has so many glaring issues is mainly due to the fact that it doesn’t want to commit to any idea that may change the status quo, it doesn’t want to kill characters it doesn’t want to add characters because the end of z has to happen. The only arc that had had a significant effect on the world of dragon ball had only been the battle of gods arc any other arc can just be ignored and it would have any effect on its characters and world and that’s not good

[@jimmygrey6848]

I'd say Super is a great series with a few crap things in it, and GT is a crap series with a few great things in it.

[@Jose-se9pu]

GT > Super, but the franchise was already on life support in the Boo saga

[@seanblack1320]

but with Vegeta needing the device, he didn't have a tail. So having a whole body memory thing wouldn't make sense there.

[@legitgamer3892]

insert a generic comment that compares dragon ball z with dragon ball super

[@youngbunt]

someone beat you to this comment!

[@zachvalzach2434]

...So, a completely fair comparison?

[@andyenglish4303]

Definitely agreed on many of your points. Honestly I would have handled things a lot differently. Instead of wishing Goku to be a child again, Pilaf would wish that Goku never existed. Instead of nonsensically blowing up their planet or origin (and thus presumably killing their creator and rendering themselves inert), the threat would be that the change to history would set and become permanent after after [time limit] (one year seems way too small for lots of space travel.) Anyway, you'd have a few people shielded by Kibitoshin from the Black Star wish--Pan, Uub, and Trunks, perhaps. And suddenly they're stuck on a world ruled by King Piccolo, and even though the three of them could easily take him down, most of their family and friends no longer exist. Moreover, Frieza still rules huge swaths of the galaxy, and he has achieved immortality via the Namekian Dragon Balls. And basically Pan, Trunks, and Uub go out and do the space Grand Tour arc. Maybe they even encounter Vegeta and freak him the hell out because Trunks is Vegeta's son, but eventually they find the Black Star Dragon Balls and undo Pilaf's wish--but in the process the learn that Myuu had observed them calling themselves Saiyans, and he tracks them back to Earth, leading to the Baby arc.

[@waveynutterbutter9860]

*ss4 vs ssb/ssg/ultra instinct*

[@jasongarcia9614]

Prestige Master Eugene ssj4 wins

[@derickramdeen4796]

Ssj4 not even a contest.

[@kaystruenoo]

Prestige Master Eugene ssj4 is the weakest out of them all

[@Novakage-g5n]

UnoriginalBraker in your opinion

[@kaystruenoo]

epicgamer 100 it's not an opinion. Its a fact

[@Roge9]

best things about DBGT imo -SSJ4 -Dad Vegeta moments (the steering wheel scene anyone?) -The music and most of the animation wasn't half bad -the ending

[@anotheraccount2052]

*To many GT is the Ribrianne of the 3 original series* It is original was part of the 10 years aired on Japan

[@cybersoul2809]

Jeffplayz 1234 good comparison. They both are flawed, but don't deserve all the hate that they get

[@_Seru_]

The difference is that Ribrianne was annoying on purpose - GT was simply extremely bad.

[@williamparson9402]

You make a lot of sense at the end of the video, Vegeta probably wouldn't have allowed Bulma to help with the Ray but remember he accepted the cheap handout back in the day from Babidi. I never thought he would do THAT and yet it happened. Vegeta is the man though always and forever. Love the videos!!!

[@NoKOzKamui]

Forget improving GT, that series is in the past, Super is the one we should talk about improving

[@FridayFables]

I love how you got Master Roshi to shout you out in your vids :P Thats too cool

[@jerryspencer2811]

Change Vegetas leather pants 😲🙈😂

[@SmangItDrums]

I would normally agree with the notion of Vegeta receiving help to achieve Super Saiyan 4 as a bad thing, but you have to keep in mind that this isn't the first time Vegeta went to another source to achieve more power or a new transformation. The first time was with Goku giving Vegeta a senzu bean during the Ginyu Saga (which healed him, which in that timeline counts), the second being when Vegeta accepted training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (which helped him achieve the form of an ascended saiyan), and then him receiving help from Babadi's magic (which helped him achieve Super Saiyan 2). And even though the GT feels like a cheat code for skipping or forgoing levels, I feel like this is a non-sequitur. Vegeta received help before, so it's not like it's too-uncommon for his character. You COULD also argue that he actively sought help for the SSJ4 transformation, but again, you could make the same argument for Babadi's magic.

[@Orteguh]

There is no improving GT.

[@lordcooler7637]

There is - erase it from existence.

[@dylanw714]

Lord Cooler I agree

[@lightinstinct707]

Trust me there would be MANY ways to improve it

[@SaikyoNoFyuujon]

I don't have a problem with the way Vegeta achieved Super Saiyan 4. Vegeta didn't have a tail, ergo he could not become an Oozaru, and that's all Bulma's machine provided. The ability to turn into the Oozaru without a tail. He turned into a Super Saiyan 4 on his own.

[@Lyserg1260]

GT >> DBS remember that

[@sikisikiamimis]

GT is The Godfather compared to DBS. The first 40 episodes are genuinely cool imo.

[@darke216]

Lyserg1260 switch it the other way around and then remember it

[@futuregohan4837]

@@darke216 Super

[@darke216]

@@futuregohan4837 ha funny

[@EthanFeelgood]

right on brotha, cant complain, you hit tha nail on tha head for me

[@MyJoey90]

Gt was the biggest mistake ever.

[@snakeboy2017]

Lloyd Irving What about Evolution?

[@snakeboy2017]

Zelleon Gexcior Actually, DBE caused BoG, which caused RoF, which caused DBS.

[@Jarrell444]

You spelled Super wrong

[@rashawnjackson9489]

True, true,.... On that, any shows watched, ESPECIALLY animated, will have problems with story, animation,voice........ but you got a solid point PLUS I and general community have back and forth arguments about GT. I don't hate it, just have ideas to continue it. Thanks👍👍👍👍

[@ftu2021]

Super had more problems in the first 64 episodes more than GT. the whole return of frieza is just as bad as super17. the battle of gods was slow maybe because i have watched the movie first. the U6 tournament was completly irelevant. finally Super started looking good in the black arc but shitty writting and execution puts it lower than GT imo. my verdict GT > SUPER COME AT ME

[@jasminenicole1985]

Feng only thing I like about Super is the black arc, ssb Vegito, and ultra Instinct in the Tournament Of Power everything else is Super sucks ass I only watch it cause I’m a die hard dragon ball fan. I actually love GT only thing I didn’t like was Goku being small again and pan being apart of the main cast because she was useless and I’m still pissed that she never went super Saiyan 😂

[@jasminenicole1985]

Feng I completely agree with you and the plot concept for the u6 Arc was dumb. “Hey let’s write an arc where there’s a tournament between 2 universes and the cause will be over the Earth of universe 7 because they cook delicious meals” wtf that is a lazy ass reason to have a universal tournament. The idea of the tournament sounds awesome it was just executed so lazy

[@Aplesedjr]

The first 30 or so episodes could probably just be done away with. If the movies dialogue was changed a little bit to fit the canon of super it'd be much better, and then straight to the universe 6 tournament.

[@reivunrantington9425]

Jasmine Nicole I'm surprised because GT barely makes the characters feel like actual people and the first few arcs were horribly boring. GT tried too hard to channel that Dragonball vibe but failed. Some of the fights also lacked a lot of weight to them. Even today it's hard for me to look at GT as something great besides the shadow dragon idea. In super we witnessed Gohan as a husband, how much video cares for him, Beerus being chilled and a bit immature but still secretly caring for his brother by reviving his earth, Vegeta progressing into a father and less of an ass. Hell he actually had no issue with Whis training him and he even helped cabba out. Let's not forget Future trunks dealing with demons worse than before and trying to overcome them and build a family,krillin and 18 being showed a bit more as a couple which has more weight to it than in Z. Gohan getting out of his slump was entertaining as hell too. GT just lacks so much emotion in comparison. The only solid thing it had for that was Piccolo's death.

[@ScrillaTMU]

Reivun Rantington we actually see that in GT hence why mostly everyone got so weak. If anything GT really continued off of those last episodes of Z and really showed how normal the characters have gotten in a time of peace. Especially Vegeta being the family man and taking his daughter on mall trips. If you take super out of the equation then it actually makes since. But now that super is a thing it makes no sense lol

[@markanthony1004]

I agree with most of this. Primarily the Pan character. She could have been written a lot better.

[@TwinBladeFury]

The best way to improve GT is to pretend it never happened and just watch Super instead.

[@RealsleepyAC]

TwinBladeFury nah super is shit

[@SuperbMoves]

IF Goku was never turned back into a kid it would been better, I mean they already had Goku jr at the end of GT why have Goku become a kid again wtf

[@lordcooler7637]

TwinBladeFury Pure facts.

[@MoarRobots]

Super isn't that great either

[@SlayerPDX]

It's better than gt and 60% of z

[@theworstcatholic7247]

I like the ideas of GT, having a character/s that was one of the(or hell multiple) of the races that was destroyed by the sayians looking for revenge is a cool idea, the shadow dragons is an amazing concept, bringing in everyone from hell is good enough they used it in a movie and in a series, and SSJ4 is a cool looking form, even if it's not very strong compared to SSG.(To be honest I would of really rather they have a weaker state as now the power scaling is broken and worthless, but whatever, this is about GT, not Super's broken aspects.) Bringing into canon the weaker fusion so things can be more interesting in fights like Gogeta is also a good enough idea that they did it again in Super. Lots of good ideas, it's just they did it bad in GT. Honestly it reminds me a lot of Super in that aspects, The executions in the sequel series of DBZ have all been less than what is desired, and not up to par in story telling, universe consistency or pacing. Still I enjoyed Super more than GT, as it was at least something I could turn off my brain to enjoy, while GT I just can't get passed the first few episodes. Still taking some concepts from GT would be great, though I unfortunately can't see them bringing in SSJ4 considering how weak of a state it is compared to God. Unless they start adding in the others SSJ states to blue, like Blue 2&3, which then it could work. SSB4 Vegeta vs UISSJ Goku, coming soon. (Which now that I think about it, since UI is more of technique than a form, you should theoretically be able to add super sayian to it.)

[@MrFresh466]

Uub should've been the main character of the show instead of Goku.

[@noelbetances5387]

No

[@Novakage-g5n]

Noel Betances yes

[@Jose-se9pu]

Good luck getting fans supporting that...they even rejected Gohan

[@999i-d9q]

I personally enjoyed every second of it. Soundtrack and sticking to one transformation was perfect spot on. Powerscaling and plot was also much better than in super. 1.If you like super you can't complain about cheese things in first arc of gt like brothers para para because in super we got characters looking like pokemons (Zeno, Monaka) or Ribrianne. Grand tour at least reminded me of original dragon ball so real fan not only focusing on mortal combat fighting should enjoy it. 2.Everyone complains about others characters being irrelevant but for me sometimes it makes so much more sense than characters getting ass pull power up by 5 minutes of training. Vegeta admitted that Goku was better at the end of Buu saga so he was still training but not maniacally chasing after him. It was obvious for Vegeta to be weaker than Goku but he was still very powerful. Beside that C18 helped Goku defeat Super 17, Uub had his own spotlight getting new transformation and fight with Baby, Vegeta get SSJ4 and helped Goku fight Omega Shenron. Did everyone forget about it? Meanwhile we got Krillin, C18, Roshi, Tien fighting god like characters so of course they are relevant but is that really make any fucking sense? Goku (db,dbz,gt) was pure hearted a bit goofy fighting genius. After his training with Kami he possessed ability to read the human mind and break out of illusions. This guy find out solution to almost every problem in the entire series. His intelligence allowed him to surpass Vegeta's training methods in every way. He was actually pretty smart but naive sometimes. 3.Meanwhile they made him RIDICULOUSLY retarded in super. He didn't reminded old self except for last few episodes. The fact that he let his guard down third time at the beginning of this same tournament approve what I stated before. Teen Goku wouldn't know what is marriage or pregnancy but guy who have two sons? Like come on now seriously? Considering it was for comedic purposes it's not even funny. 4.I can not lie Goku should keep his adult body through up whole gt and this would fix my only issue with the show. Shadow dragons saga was brilliant concept of ending entire story. Super is slowly improving but Gt is still overall better.

[@crixstix46]

Sailor moon > GT

[@薔薇-k2m]

actually sailor moon is great, so sailor moon > dbs sailor moon > dbgt

[@warrenellis1023]

I’ve read (not in forums or wikis) that ssj4 was created to be written as “true super saiyan” but was in the end unveiled as ssj4 because it was expected to be a more favorable angle among fans. Ever come across this, and is there any legitimacy to this claim?

[@Bootylicker2000.]

Tomorrow Rip universe 6 they will be missed

[@killuazoldyck2998]

I know

[@SBoundless]

Adventurous Adventurer Augustus Same lol

[@tedhodge4830]

One thing that would have made perfect sense is if baby Vegeta turning oozaru the first time simply caused him to regrow his tail. The only thing really keeping him from reaching golden oozaru was the tail, which the blutz waves helped stimulate (makes sense, moon was destroyed). Goku had to have his tail literally yanked out of his tailbone, which obviously was a ridiculous scene that wouldn't have worked for Goku. Conversely, Vegeta has an easier time regaining control of his senses once he hits golden oozaru, which also makes sense considering he was fully sentient in DBZ while in the ape form. Overall it wasn't that big of a mistake until he falls out of the form and can't go back without the blutz waves. They could have simply said he fell out of it due to low power just like Goku and it wouldn't have felt like such a cheat code or that he didn't earn it. He did - he had the power and the mastery to do it, he just needed his tail. Let him keep it after it's regrown and problem solved.

[@lordcooler7637]

My list: 1. Erase it from existence 2. Erase it from existence 3. Erase it from existence 4. Erase it from existence 5. Erase it from existence and forget it ever existed

[@vyndicate8456]

Erase it from existence......like Cooler? He doesn't exist either.

[@lordcooler7637]

MechaSensei You really think GT is trash because it's not canon? It's not the case. GT is bad because it's a terrible series. And it may surprise you, but I know Cooler isn't canon - and I don't care, his movies are great. Zelleon Gexcior Ape-loving GT-tard wants to erase me from existence. How. Very. "Scary".

[@vyndicate8456]

Lord Cooler Super gave you a yellow Frieza. That's totally original, awesome and wayyyy better than a 4th form Cooler(Sarcasm). And a blue ssj1 is wayyyyyy cooler than a giant ape that can nuke cities casually. Who needs full moon monster transformations when we can have neon hair colors? You're right. Super is an amazing series with incredible designs. Ribrianne is amazing. Way cooler than Baby Vegeta, Perfect Cell, or a Golden Oozaru. Who needs that anyway?

[@vyndicate8456]

Lord Cooler Goku is a were monkey. That's literally the whole point of saiyans. Simplistic designs? Like Frieza and Cell? Golden Frieza is garbage. Its the final form with hideous colors. I actually hate GT, but I like ssj4 design. Its monster like, as it should be. Watch the saiyan saga if you don't know what Saiyans are. They're MONSTERS. Toriyama made them that way. As a Cooler fan, you weren't disappointed in Golden Frieza? I was. After seeing things like Perfect Cell and Buu, I thought Golden Frieza was an indicator Toriyama had run out of gas and didn't know what he was doing. But now that he has introduced "S-Cells" as the explanation for these BS saiyan ass pulls, I know I was right.

[@lordcooler7637]

MechaSensei SSJ was literally a new branch of evolution, even Freeza noticed that. Randomly turning into a pink weremonkey has nothing to do with SSJ forms and it's as far from Toriyama's designs as possible. Freeza's final form and Cell's perfect form are both less complex than their previous forms, SSJ1 and SSJ2 are just changes of hair and increase of muscle mass, Buu looks very simple - there was never something as ridiculous as this ugly humanoid ape from GT. Yes, I was disappointed with Freeza's new form - but ultimately that's Toriyama's style. And at least Cooler is still unique.

[@RiderNexus]

Here's what I would have done - Make Goku unable to join the Black Star Arc and swap him out with Goten or Gohan - Would have expanded the Black Star Arc by maybe 10 episodes or so and improve the pacing to allow more character moments - The Arc could use a Red Ribbon Army like enemy team, but kind of on a galactic scale much like the Empire in Star Wars - Pan would have been able to turn Super Saiyan against Ledgic - Keep the Baby arc how it is - Super 17 would have no Movie exclusive villains - Decrease the amount of Shadow Dragons as I thought it was a bit of a crowded arc - Vegeta would already know Super Saiyan 4 through his own methods

[@wadedewell]

Gt is better then super... it has less asspull powerups and actualy shows some training and explains a few things.... unlike dbsuper

[@stephtastic7963]

Wade Dewell have you been living under a rock

[@wadedewell]

Stephtastic! You have if you dont see what i see....

[@wadedewell]

Dbsuper is so uninspired and was made purely for profit and merchandising. It severely lacks proper explanations and proper training/character growth sequences..... it shits on the legacy and struggles of the past dbz didnt have this issue really and things made sense. Even the craptacular gt made more sense and embarassed characters less then dbsuper

[@BlackLightning20101]

Instead of turning Goku into a kid, I would've turned Goku into an very old man.