The DEFINITIVE Conclusion Of Michael Afton’s Identity || FNaF Theory

[@raelogan]

I love how people will argue that Michael wouldn't be so considerate of CC if he was bullying him, as if siblings don't literally flip flop between besties and Cain Instinct all the time. My younger brother is one of my best friends, and he also once suplexed me into a table in a squabble over a pizza hot pocket. That's just how siblings are, lol

[@rikuaotsuki6353]

Big siblings in particular VERY frequently have the attitude that they're the ONLY one allowed to mess with their younger siblings. My older sister and I didn't mesh all that well when I was little, but she still made a kid cry on the bus for messing with me.

[@raelogan]

@@rikuaotsuki6353 Very true! My older brother ((I have a bunch of brothers)) used to tease me playfully when we were kids. He would always stop if he went a bit too far and apologize, and would definitely throw hands if someone else tried to mess with me. He was the Straight A student of us, but he'd always brag about how proud he was at how much I'd improved from my scores each semester. The baseline sibling is "I'm gonna kick your butt [affectionate]."

[@rikuaotsuki6353]

@@raelogan Sometimes I think it's like "I can always make up for it if I go to far but I don't trust anyone else to not be outright malicious about things." That sort of logic makes Michael even more tragic, honestly, because he did something that had consequences so far beyond expectation that there was nothing he could do to apologize.

[@nadie887]

He's literally the causer of his rough days, he wouldn't call them out. Also, bullying isn't a natural state of a caring brotherhood. Plus, he literally gives his irrational rageful father an order lol. That's if he was Mike, cause his not.

[@nadie887]

It seems this whole response section doesn't really understand "messing with your siblings" is a big understatement for what Mike does in fnaf 4. It's actually called bullying. He doesn't care about CC's emotions.

[@autumn4639]

I think he might be a character in the FNAF series.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Nah, he is actually finger from breaking bad 😏

[@autumn4639]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Ah, you're right. How careless of me to forget.

[@mikhaeldarriens3810]

Wait omg did we just accidentally discover that FNAF and Breaking Bad exist in the same universe??

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

@@mikhaeldarriens3810 "umm actually, that was confirmed a long time ago"-🤓

[@scoobyrds]

Oh yeah? If he’s a character then show me where he is in the character encyclopedia

[@randomerjr3182]

I can't really pick who my favorite Afton is, but honestlly it might be Mike. His character is so complex and i love how sarcastic and ironic he is. i also love the insane redemption arc he has, where he goes from a bully, offing his brother, and just being a dumb teenager to a man who is willing to give up his life in order to free, and save his siblings, make up for his past mistakes and get rid of his father. It's also funny how he is the protagonist of most of the game, and he always gets fired for tampering with animatronics or being too nosy, like when he goes to the oppisite room of the scooping room in sl. The logbook just makes him an even funnier and lovable character imo too

[@willwouldnot]

finally, someone with the same opinion as me! i will defend michael afton until the day i die

[@randomerjr3182]

@@willwouldnot Haha same:))

[@coffiezy]

chill its just a fnaf character bro☠☠☠☠

[@randomerjr3182]

@@coffiezy Are you upset by the fact that i am looking into the characteristics of a fnaf protagonist? I think he is quite an interesting character, that's it really. You don't have to like his character, I do though.

[@Icantdothisanymoreplskillme]

YES YES YES YES I LOVE MICHAEL

[@laraschroeder5195]

I agree with all of this (I honestly thought Mike being Foxy Bro was common knowledge but whatever) expect the Midnight Motorist part. I don’t think it was Mike on the chair, not cause he doesn’t act like him or whatever, but because the thought of the runaway kid being the CRYING CHILD? The runaway kid known for locking his door, breaking his damn window, running past an animatronic (aka something the CC’s terrified of), and then running off to who knows where (potentially Freddy’s, which makes even less sense) in the pouring rain? I just don’t see the Crying Child doing that. His main characteristic is being scared of everything, and his fear response is to curl up into a ball and cry. Michael however, is scared of nothing really. Just from the fact that he’s the protagonist of every FNAF game ever (an exaggeration but you get what I mean). So it’s not that I don’t think the person on the chair is Michael, it’s just I DONT believe the runaway child is the Crying Child. It’s much more in character for a known troublemaker and rule breaker like Michael/Foxy bro to go against his alcoholic father by locking his door and running off into the woods after kicking some animatronic in the shins or something. I’m exaggerating a lot of this, but you get my point I’m sure.

[@higueraft571]

Not to mention with the section immediately after... He states that Charlie dies BEFORE CC? Not to mention, the SB Retros... really dont give a good idea of WHEN Mrs Afton ever died. We know that custody battle was fought before Elizabeth died (around 1986 or so). His reasoning that this was BEFORE CC's death AND before Charlie's is... kind of ridiculous. Mrs Afton's death is THE catalyst of all the killings? Not his son being chomped by Henry's Animatronic at the hands of his eldest son? It really doesnt make sense, both story-wise and in what we already know. Why would Afton target Charlie if his Wife died, exactly? Sure his family isnt "perfect" anymore, but... I'm pretty damn sure it wasnt perfect by the time they divorced, to put it simply. He *knowingly* screwed her on Divorce... Now suddenly he cares about her enough to utterly depress him and throw him into a hot-blooded murder because... reason? And, as you mentioned of course. The ONLY one we see locking doors in this series is Michael, twice. He's absolutely ballsy enough to smash a window in the middle of a stormy night, knowing someone is home, and kick an animatronic in the shin while booking it to "that" place, giving ZERO shits... Several times. This 100% isnt a runaway that's "docile", or a coward. The Ages though? Yeah, can definitely agree on it, and most info prior to the Midnight Motorist section... Michael approx 14~ CC/"Garret" approx 7 Charlie approx 5-9?

[@higueraft571]

@@tamaritamarileonardo394 >since this what was william's motovatied to kill charlie since he knew that his family can't be great or perfect then it also can't be henry's and really what do you mean ther lives weren't great i do think that it once was and that ther was something that made it go downhill and made mrs.afton and william have this divorce One, holy fuck split that up, a wall is a pain to read. Two, why would the death of someone he was ABSOLUTELY willing to utterly screw without hesitation cause him to kill Henry's kid in particular? >lives werent great Even in Impulse's theory, he makes it clear it WAS NOT. They fought often, the relationship was tenuous at best. We see William pitting his children against eachother. If the book behavior is accurate as well, he's VERY much willing to, and probably has, slapped his daughter at least. That alone is Emotional and Physical Abuse. THIS IS NOT A HAPPY HOUSEHOLD. > i really don't think that crying child was the first one to die in the series the reason why i say that is becouse why why woude he be crying in the fnaf 4 minigames why is he afraid of fredbear's like that deosn't make senes not to mention him being scared of the animatronics That... doesnt imply a killing has already happened. Scott has outright stated that "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child." What's the point of that easter egg of Afton putting a man in a suit? The mention of misunderstanding poorly viewed assumptions? He most likely believes a suit ATE a person... >was him thinking that fredbear killed charlie since he thought that shadow feddy was just fredbear hiding in the shadows ???? Shadow Freddy was spawned from the MCI's collective Agony. We have NOT seen him appear beforehand, why would he assume an animatronic OUTSIDE THE LOCATION killed Charlie? Charlie was most likely strangled, stabbed, or some other means of murder that you'd be able to commit on the spot. Not something a robot would do. >becouse just like others you just ignore the mistery of why is crying child/garret afriad of the animatronics and i really think he is afraid of them. Because... it's either not explained at all, or it's a WAY simpler explanation than most people jump to. Think about it, why the fuck would his fear HAVE to come from someone getting murdered. Why would it HAVE to be Charlie or Elizabeth? Anyways, as for motive for William's killing? Simple. CC died first, Henry's animatronic killed him. William blamed Henry for his son's death, and one night he spots Charlie locked out. So he kills Charlie, getting "even". Henry murdered his child? William will murder his.

[@higueraft571]

@@tamaritamarileonardo394 One. William almost certainly knew how she would've reacted. Two. CC is absolutely still a YOUNG child, 8~ years old or so. >already in the first minigame garret/c.c. is already crying Except that doesnt disprove it. And more importantly: What's the point of that easter egg if it's insignificant? It features a man in shadows, animatronics, and someone being "eaten". It features specifically the Animatronic. And as you quoted, "you know what will happen when he catches you" Who is HE? If it's William putting a man in a suit, that'd fit a HE, we see what happens in 4. >but in the last minigame it's carlie/puppet possessing the fredbear plush talking to the crying child we know it's charlie that apeaks to c.c. in the last minigame since the text color changes implying that who ever is speaking is not the same person Cant confirm, but i believe Scott said it didnt matter. What i can confirm though. *We dont know what's happening. We dont know how long CC is in a coma, or if he died soon after. We dont know what's happening in terms of time.* We also, as far as i know, have ZERO example of Charlie saying that, but we know William HAS said it, Michael confirmed it. Charlie could still be possessing it, but it's definitely an assumption everything is happening all at once. Just like the assumption that FNAF 4's gameplay and Minigames take place at the same time (they dont)...

[@nadie887]

THIS agreed

[@johnjordan211]

​​​@@nadie887 why would he always have the same personality. Something happened that changed him.

[@emily-jayne07]

Michael is one of my favourite characters, so I'll definitely enjoy. Thanks!

[@ItsNotAlakeItsAnOcean]

"He tripped and fell on Freddy's teeth. Not our fault" -Michael Afton 1993

[@emily-jayne07]

@@ItsNotAlakeItsAnOcean his sass is my fav thing to come from that logbook lmao

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

@@ItsNotAlakeItsAnOcean Literally Michael: "Hahahaha, not funny didn't laught".

[@kksmith2282]

You know, I kinda decided to watch this on a whim even though I already know Mike is foxy bro, but I'm really glad I did. The part I found most interesting were the Fazbear Frights connections. I already knew about a few of them (Lonely Freddy is the one I always remember the best as being a direct parallel) but you touched on quite a few I never even considered (but you're absolutely right about). One that really stood out to me was The New Kid, which yeah, I never really put it together but there's a very definite parallel there (especially when you think of Michael and Crying Child with the sort of Lonely Freddy "my parents think he's perfect" mentality). I had an interesting thought about that though. Kelsey randomly shows back up during the ending, right? You compared it to Crying Child being a spirit, but I wonder... The whole "Crying Child robot" thing has been a theory for a really, really long time, even before all the Gregory stuff. Could that be what Scott is trying to reference here? Kelsey "dies" to Golden Freddy but then is mysteriously back... perhaps he was rebuilt? Could this story be Scott trying to hint that Crying Child, the character Kelsey parallels, was also rebuilt? Especially if the whole Gregory = CC robot thing ends up being true, this could have been a thing Scott's been wanting to get across for awhile now (especially considering Security Breach had like a two year delay). Just an interesting random thought I had watching this :3 In any case, awesome video :D

[@nathanielgarza9198]

Let’s pretend CC is Michael and see why that wouldn’t work in the Fnaf story Fnaf 4 -Remember Fnaf is suppose to be the final chapter. So what answer would be a conclusion to leave out on(4 games 1 story) -There are a lot of Easter eggs of other Fnaf games, Chica missing her beak, the phone guy conversation. If CC was Michael and we are playing it Michael’s perspective we could fill in why this was in the game as to show CC is melding his memories -Night 6 where Fredbear gave the “I will put you back together” speech would make a lot of sense since the CC somehow came back alive if he was Michael and that could clearly tell us the “pieces put together” was him -It also would give Michael some motivation to stay as night guard in Fnaf 1-3 as he associates the Freddy’s cast to his “friends” The Security Logbook -The responses in the feelings rating are not a perfect match to the hidden message. Everyone admits that. But notice how almost all the altered text are an extreme followed by a 1-10. Perhaps someone wanted Michael to answer the hidden messages on the feeling scale -think “I can’t see” doesn’t mean he is asking a yes or no question he is saying on a scale of 1-10 how much you can’t see Sister location -Nothing would really change here except one thing. The direction the voice actor for Michael was given is he is broken. Who else do we know that is broken? -Also the immortal and the Restless could be a hint that Michael is a Robot. Vlad claims the child is not his but it obviously look like his child. See the connection there Pizzeria simulator -the poster could allude to a lot. You could say the dummy is Lefty, the clown is scrap Baby and the bear is molten Freddy. You could also say they represent any of the many puppets/faux humans/bears in Fnaf Help wanted -we are told the game is circuit boards scanned in to be a playable vr experience. Yet some of these “experiences” are from humans from previous games? Why would a human have a circuit board of there memories unless of course there the CC’s memories -Another thing is if Curse of Dreadbear is suppose to be Frankenstein’s monster and Dreadbear is in fact the CC doesn’t that connect to CC being realived? Security Breach -If you didn’t know Michael is alluded to be possessing Glamrock Freddy. And if you paid attention to the changes from the upgrades you notice he looking a little more like Nightmare Fredbear(The claws, glowing eyes, purple bow tie) -Glamrock also called the blob his friends. Something the CC saw the plushies as. He also says a lot of lines that are similar to Fnaf 4 dialogue like calling Greggory Broken -The hidden tv room looks a lot like the Charlie closets yknow where Henry kept Charlie’s robot replacement after her unaliving and the hidden messages sounds like instruction perhaps relating to robot programming -and try listening to the dialogue to the Afton family robots. The mother left them because the father wasted there money on a closet? Isn’t that more evidence that Michael is CC since it suggest William is making robots duplicates of his son Miscellaneous -one thing that really bothered me about the Foxybro and Michael connection is there isn’t really much of a connection to be made? How many times has Foxy and Michael have this up and coming bond. -In fact Golden Freddy had more a connection to Michael then Foxy. If anything there is more evidence that Foxybro is Phone guy cause he admits to loving Foxy(probably not)

[@nickdagr8wiz]

I love how Scott felt the need to make basically a fifth of fazbear frights reference or allude to mike being foxy bro, evan being cc (they even call them by their names, I don't think we need more confirmation on cc being called evan), and the fnaf 4 gameplay being actually michael, having nightmares either natural or induced by his father, after causing the death of his younger brother, and then getting his innards replaced by ennard.

[@violetmemoria4316]

I never knew there were so many Fazbear Frights stories that relate to Michael Afton. Wow, I'm seeing some stories in a whole new light.

[@PDD555]

You explained all of my problems with Game Theory theories perfectly, specially the connection between the older brother color text, shirt and who could be buried in the first place

[@margaretbush]

It’s like theories are supposed to be perfect?

[@Dav458]

We already know that Michael Afton is Foxybro,the narrative sounds better then the mikevictim storyline because "I'm going to wake up and stop my dad for no reason." And the evidence is substantial for it too,how do people still believe in that dead theory? Besides that,we don't know much about his life after the bite,or if he is Glamrock Freddy or not,we have theory that Michael worked at all the locations,but we don't know for sure,like Sl Fnaf 3 and and Fnaf 6 and finally Fnaf 1,but what about Fnaf 2? Michael was also the one who had the nightmares after Fnaf 1,and CC was tormenting him for,ya know,killing him. Overall I think we know exactly who he is. A brother trying to right the wrongs of his father

[@tomkubus]

The thing is, mike always helps William, trying to prove to William that William should be proud of him

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

​@@tomkubus Also Michael: let's burn William

[@SayoriChan640]

Oh yes we know, We definitely didn't believe he was BV or anything 🤷‍♂️ we totally thought he was BV for a second...

[@1Tombb]

Mikebro is canon, MVers are coping atp ngl

[@higueraft571]

Michael was 100% in FNAF 2, night 7. >The thing is, mike always helps William, trying to prove to William that William should be proud of him Dont really see that but ok...?

[@zelz3011]

The couch potato is still kinda hard. I can understand how it can still be Micheal but it also kinda feels like it doesn't work. Especially since The Fredbear Plush at the time of Midnight MOtorist or before legit doesn't have to be Charlotte. You could argue Evan/CC is still dying in that coma like state and then during that time Charolette dies but then it begs the question of how the hell this Soul stuff works for them to be able to affect them from so far away and yet so soon. I think most likely the Fredbear Plush that talks to CC in the end before their Golden days is most likely meant to be William. ~ Bro that Sped Up Laugh scared me more than the Jumpscare sound. ~~ STEP CLOSER! ~~~ What did we find?

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

William is the one talking in the first five nights, in the last night it changes meaning that it's two different people talking trought Fredbear and again, in FNaF World it's made pretty clear that GlitchBear who is obviously the Fredbear Plush is the one to set up Happiest Day who is pretty clearly The Puppet.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 not really. I think the lighter text being Mike makes more sense he was the one who really set up happiest day. It also makes way more sense in Fnaf 4 After failing to communicate with his dying brother he mimicked his father's voice. Overall I agree with Zel z.

[@higueraft571]

@@maxwellattacks6645 ...what. Michael 100% didnt set up Happiest Day. Michael is 100%, in this instance, the Grey Text. Why would he mimic his father's voice? I dont have a source sadly, but someone DID mention that Scott the text color change wasnt important for the "I will put you back together" quote? But even if that isnt the case, you could more argue that it's the Baby Look-alike/Elizabeth saying it. Though it could simply be just William himself...

[@maxwellattacks6645]

@@higueraft571 I have recently started considering that lighter text is William even in Fnaf world, even if a bit nonsensical. The two eyes that glitch fredbear has looks almost identical (or at least slightly close to) Springbonnie’s eyes in stage 01 mini-game, and nothing else really. And as weird as it sounds he would have reasons for helping cause the happiest day, it is him fulfilling his promise by freeing his son. The missing children are just being used by William to accomplish his goal, as we see in FNAF 6 they don’t move on after this. Of course, there are numerous flaws, but I think it is somewhat worth considering. However lighter text in Fnaf 4 is 100% William, if we consider the character guide canon (like this video did) it directly states they are the same entity as normal fredbear plush who we know is William.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

Mike being lighter text admittingly makes no sense…

[@juliabp6057]

MikeBro was something obvious since 2016. In my opinion, MikeVictim is the worst FNAF theory. It literally doesn’t have any evidence, and it only got popular due to a misinterpretation of the Logbook, similar to how MikeTrap got popular after the community misinterpreted the SpringTrap’s custcene from Sister Location.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

MikeVictim is ass

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

Mikevictim é a 4 pior teoria de fnaf

[@docrilas]

MikeTrap is the worst fnaf theory

[@WWTWW]

I think you forgot to edit properly for some pictures starting around 2:00? I disagree with Charlie being the Fredbear plush or the Fredbear character (in entirety) in FNAF World. I do think the Puppet is in FNAF World since the eyes in the beginning of the game are extremely similar to the FNAF 3 Puppet stare. It seems more likely to me that wherever FNAF World is taking place in, the Puppet is taking over the Fredbear character for a few moments in order to communicate with the FNAF World protagonist (who I think is most likely Evan/Crying Child), especially considering that the Fredbear character is really the only one who talks consistently with new things to say the protagonist. I guess you could also interpret it as Cassidy (as normal Fredbear) trying to keep Evan distracted with the game world (in other words, not wanting souls to be free so they can all torment William), while the Puppet (as 8-bit Fredbear) is trying to cut off Fredbear's dialogue to remind the protagonist of what they really should be doing (a.k.a. setting up the needed steps for his own soul to be free, since haunting the animatronics didn't do anything to stop William, and the last time Cassidy tried to stop him with the other souls, he turned immortal as Springtrap, oh crap we done goofed!). In any case, I don't think that the Puppet communicating through the only animatronic that can repeatedly converse with the protagonist is 100% proof that Charlie is the Fredbear plush. Unless you're saying that she's just pretending to be the plushie during his last moments before death as her spirit visits him? Personally, I think there's more evidence for William being the one communicating through the Fredbear plush, even in those last lines. (*Sister Location bunker with Fredbear plushie & walkie talkie, "I will put you back together" phrase used again during Michael monologue to imply that William was the one who had a habit of saying that line, at least 2 instances of a plushie being used by a father to either monitor or communicate with their son in the Fazbear Frights books.) So I think the final part of the FNAF 4 minigame is indeed William, making this 2 times that he wanted his kid put back together. Anyways, aside from that disagreement, it was a nice video! I enjoyed seeing you go over the factors in favor of Michael being Foxybro; it was a nice refresher on all those little details.

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

The problem with William saying "I want to put you back together" is because William is always portrayed as an abusive father who doesn't care about his own children. i believe puppet who promised to "put crying child back together"

[@ناصرعادل-د6ل]

People really needs to go back and play curse of dreadbear becase i think dreadbear helps us with bite victim identity

[@nadie887]

Why would the guy in the couch call out he had a rough day if he doesn't care he has rough days cause his the reason he haves them? Mike doesn't look out for him, not emotionally at least. Also, he straight up says "leave him alone tonight" to his drunk irrational father. In what position does he feel he is in to say that? why doesn't William react in any way that his son is talking to him in that way? That's Henry.

[@aurorialgaming1935]

Just because he bullies CC doesnt mean he wouldnt stick up for him. I mean yes he goes a bit far in his teasing but I dont think he ever really planned to harm CC physically. Now I dont know what kind of father Wiliam was, but I think I'm reasonable to say likely a poor one. That being said there is a VERY fine line between an older brother teasing his sibling and a possibly abusive drunk father. But also why would Henry be living with the Aftons? Unless I'm missing something which is possible.

[@nadie887]

@@aurorialgaming1935 He literally doesn't care about his emotions or mental health. He doesn't "tease" him, he leaves him crying multiple times, traumatizing him. Sure, physically not, but psychologically a LOT. It's not that Henry is living with the Aftons, I believe it's likely that he was there in the house to support William after losing his son, and because of doing that, he gave him the opportunity to kill his daughter.

[@aurorialgaming1935]

@@nadie887 Then that would mean that it's not CC that's running away, but Michael. Hmm cant theorize now XD

[@lilhusky8756]

Does anyone still think CC is cute with his design

[@tbandz9642]

15:46 For some reason I thought the Afton family had a transatlantic accent: a hybrid of British and American.

[@emperorvader283]

Faded, Altered and Red are 3 separate people. Red is Michael, Altered is Cassidy, who is most likely Crying Child.

[@mylo445]

I always assumed the guy William puts the suit on in Fnaf 4 was phone guy. He’s the only one who would be confirmed to know about the spring locks at that point

[@__Soya__]

It couldn’t be Phone Guy barely knows anything about Fredbear family diner.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

Dude, you can't use an FNAF World assumption (That really has no direct proof) as evidence. Mike does have a high likelihood to be the runaway for more than one reason. 1. CC is a coward why would he run to or past an entity outside of his room? 2. The paw print we see outside can't be from Cassidy because the MCI happens after Charlotte dies, it can't be from a funtime or nightmare animatronic as they have more than 3 toes, and illusion disks wouldn't alter the animatronics physically, nor can it be from a springlock suit or a normal animatronic due to the rain. Assuming CC is either a part of Golden Freddy or Shadow Freddy, that leaves only one outcome. I am just saying this because you can't discredit something based on your own interpretation.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

Even if I don't agree with charlotte dying first personally, he still could have murdered charlotte before CC died, but only by a few minutes. He might have been so full of grief that he left the hospital before CC died. Drank at juniors, then murdered charlotte out of envy, before his son actually died. This might even explain why he is absent for his son's death.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Wdym by Cassidy? His theory is that the one outside the window is Shadow Freddy

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Also, Scott literally said FNaF World is canon and B.V became a coward after whatever he saw

[@maxwellattacks6645]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 I meant Golden Freddy

[@maxwellattacks6645]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 I didn't say Fnaf world isn't canon and if Fnaf world is canon then "What's seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child" would be too assumingly.

[@imjoeeviljr]

Of course he's not the crying child, if he was he would have been dead long before Sister Location.

[@smt64productions40]

You’ll be surprised Some think he’s a robot version of CC

[@irladovelasquez975]

Cool theory but I don't like idea that Michael is possessing glamrock Freddy because Michael is a corpse and not a soul and plus Michael survive the FNAF 3 fire so what if Michael actually survive FNAF 6 because since Michael survive fire from FNAF 3 it would make more sense if Michael actually survive in FNAF 6 also here's my theory why glamrock Freddy said "I am not me " the reason why Freddy said he's not himself is that glamrock Freddy used to got hacked before games released my theory is that glamrock Freddy was hacked before games released and glamrock Freddy and the reason why Freddy helped gregory here's reason: in freddys room we can see that there's Freddy plushies and the kid drawings in freddys room my theory is that glamrock Freddy used to protect a kid and apparently Freddy got hacked by Afton and killed a kid that Freddy got controlled because in GGYs story is that gregory has been tampering with animatronics and when glitch trap possessed Gregory and glitch trap hacked glamrock Freddy before and fazbear entertainment decided to make Freddy a anti-virus like when Freddy got detected with virus Freddy immediately rebooted safe mode and when safe mode was rebooted with glitch traps virus so that made Freddy crashed I hope you like my theory! Leave a like if u agree with my theory

[@ImpulseEvan37]

this video has nothing to do with glamrock freddy lmao, i dont even think mike is glamrock freddy

[@higueraft571]

>I don't like idea that Michael is possessing glamrock Freddy If anything, he's Greggory, not Freddy... >Michael is a corpse and not a soul How in the fuck do you think that corpse is walking around exaclty?? There are NO bones. It's a skinsuit.

[@irladovelasquez975]

​@@higueraft571 facts but people are just so blind and hella dumb that they beileve a fucking corpse is a soul that possessed glamrock Freddy

[@irladovelasquez975]

​@@ImpulseEvan37 thank you bro these people beileve that glamrock Freddy is possessed by Michael Afton when Michael is a fucking corpse he's not a soul

[@higueraft571]

@@irladovelasquez975 Again. >Michael is a fucking corpse he's not a soul *What do you think is possessing that corpse? How is it moving? Talking? Taking Management positions?* My brother in christ Michael had a soul before being scooped, and his soul very much possessed his own corpse. Where is it now? Who knows, but it's kind of stupid to say he did NOT have a soul... (Especially when Book Charlie, who is an ENTIRELY artificial being, had one too)

[@strxwberrries4990]

what if schmidt was williams wife maiden name, and went she divorced him, she changed all of the kids names too (or the kids had the option to, which would make sense because william tortured michael but elizabeth admired her father and chose to keep afton)

[@__Soya__]

Nah it’s just another one of Michael’s many identities

[@ember13dp]

Interesting

[@middle_kiwi4020]

needed to watch this. Recently had a though that CC was Micheal Afton, and after he died in FNAF 4, William made a robot to look like him, like in the books, which would help fit why Micheal somehow survives the scooping. It is probably wrong, but It felt so right when Golden Freddy says, It's Me, with the remnant of the real Micheal in the golden Freddy suit.

[@smt64productions40]

How come he didn’t done it with Elizabeth then when she died?

[@jaddenn7660]

Michael is 100% the older brother, so many evidence suggests it

[@samuelpithan-ui2mn]

Scott Cawthon already confirmed MikeBro to be canon to the FNAF Series. MikeVictim no longer holds up.

[@samuelpithan-ui2mn]

Sorry.That was out of date. Here's the correct version: Scott Cawthon had already confirmed MikeBro to be canon to the FNAF lore. MikeVictim no longer holds up.

[@pepperxs]

hey do you have a source fro this? im really sick of seeing mikevic everywhere and would appreciate confirmation

[@muriloilharodrigues4724]

"FASTER FRIGHTS" LMAO

[@SayoriChan640]

We know we know! We quite frankly know

[@Chellebelle121]

I really enjoy your videos, you make some really great points. Thank you!

[@zelz3011]

Wait... Evan/CC = Brown Elizabeth = Green Mike = Blue How the F do they have all 3? Is it like a luck thing?

[@TheAlgerianSolider]

How do you know That The Crying Child Has Brown Eyes?

[@juliabp6057]

@@TheAlgerianSolider FNAF encyclopedia. And these deigns are actually canon, differently from the Graphic Novels.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

​@@TheAlgerianSolider the charecter encyclopedia, whatch the video

[@zelz3011]

@@TheAlgerianSolider Because the Guide shows it but I knew they had eyes that were a different color even before that. When we see Micheal Walking we can literally only See Blue in his 8 Bit sprite. Elizabeth we see Green. But CC in all of his sprites we just see Black in his eyes and not even in the Animatronic way with White there. As someone who has Dark Brown eyes lots of people refer to them as Black sometimes and I can see why on an 8 Bit thing which might have to use colors to fit other places why the color Black would be used in the place of their eyes.

[@peppino3609]

Easy. William had Blue eyes, Clara afton had green eyes and the mailman had Brown eyes

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

I belive in FollowVictim

[@juliabp6057]

Me too.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

​@@juliabp6057 W

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 I also believe that theory

[@sleepylmguy9968]

Not to sound dumb. But uh...what is FollowVictim?

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

@@sleepylmguy9968 B.V is following Mike around during the entire series, i also belive in FreeVictim (B.V sets up Happiest Day) whitch is basically a fact

[@jedfortress2442]

Can you explain to about Vanessa is Michael afton daughter?? In your "Henry is an absolute clown" video like I'm confused af

[@astrangerthere6098]

i thought about this so much but then realized in the therapy tapes vanessas father is named bill and so yeah

[@jedfortress2442]

​@@astrangerthere6098 thx bro

[@tbandz9642]

22:56 Well, I need therapy, and my parents.

[@janethmedina7441]

It's definitely not C.C, C.C's eye color is brown while Mike's eyes are blue. Done 😁✨

[@quanashiab.9620]

We believing the book completely, or a small amount?

[@janethmedina7441]

@@quanashiab.9620 what account? I'm talking cannon, theirs more proof that C.C's eye colors are brown than blue. Even his future actor is gonna have brown eyes.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Gregory is B.V ngl

[@janethmedina7441]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Possibly, ngl Gregory looks way more like C.C than Mike does 🤣😂✨

[@juliabp6057]

@@quanashiab.9620 the exclusive designs made for the encyclopedia are canon. Therefore, the crying child indeed has brown eyes, Henry is blonde and etc.

[@greyideasthetheliopurodon4640]

Two possibilities remain, he is Mike (finger) from breaking bad or he is Micheal morbius. In that case, he is the most character of all time

[@NayanBeardy]

Super underrated vid

[@Songal18]

Yeah BV being 10 or under, 7 or 8 more like it, has always made sense. But Michael not being a teenager makes sense because what teenager would do what Michael did, now if he is a teen I would say he's 13 or 14 year old, and yes I could see a kid that age doing that to his baby brother, but what 16-18 year old would unless they were severely mentally ill. That aside I'm glad to have some relief over Michael's role. Now if only that Character Encyclopedia gave use any clue to Michael's whereabouts, unless he was the one to write it?

[@ikaiju-eu9wn]

believe me a lot of 16 year olds would do this

[@Songal18]

@@ikaiju-eu9wn Okay.

[@glycon6828]

Michael has too many lore implications to be in the CE

[@theheterosexualstruggle]

i don’t think i can see michael exactly being that old of a teenager, i think it would make sense for him to be 12-14 maybe 15?

[@Songal18]

@@theheterosexualstruggle Yes same.

[@doranr80]

Crying child is not Michael sorry Michael is the older brother

[@1Tombb]

Based and factual

[@cherenmertens]

Seriously the idea of CC being Mike is so dated now.

[@1Tombb]

@@cherenmertens fr💀

[@matthew...4961]

Steve Snodgrass is everyone.

[@1Tombb]

😏😏

[@matthew...4961]

@@1Tombb Mr. 🐻 , I need them Epilogue 5 spoilers 😵‍💫

[@1Tombb]

@@matthew...4961 Me and Scott are making sure they are 🔥🔥

[@matthew...4961]

@@1Tombb Yeahhhh booooii

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

Mike/Michael is the foxybro, and I believe cc's soul possessed Golden freddy

[@lilbillix]

I still think the runaway is Mike

[@1Tombb]

W

[@Cxsonn]

Quick question: could seven candles mean seven victims? Just curious

[@1Tombb]

Typically, yes

[@__Soya__]

Jeremy, Fritz, Susie, Gabriel, Cassidy, Charlotte, Evan(Crying Child).

[@not-existent8376]

Ter'z anlot wrong with tiz' C.C/BV not 7 yr0 Purpl'-Dud' woz purpl' Michael not the 1 talkin' 2 him in Mid-Nigh' Mortoriz' mini-gmea.

[@dtimetyp7062]

13:50 i thought the magician one is mangle

[@aresrivera9744]

Once again this interpretation of midnight murderous makes Afton evil for the sake of being evil while according to the steel wool interview they’re kind of wanting to go for Afton being a character who won has a reason for doing bad things and in the end it gets he deserves by his own hands.

[@Satoru-Gojou]

Literally he only wants to be immortal man, and he is a bad person, don't matter what they say, it's already showed what he truly is.

[@aresrivera9744]

@@Satoru-Gojou books aren’t the same as game .

[@Satoru-Gojou]

@@aresrivera9744 Still canon, and William from Books is similar to Games.

[@aresrivera9744]

@@Satoru-Gojou since what are the books canon? I don’t remember in the games seeing the stitch wraith or The Afton amalgamation. And says who? William in the games of genuinely cared for The crying child and Elizabeth. While in the book he’s just evil because he’s evil and never actually love his kids.

[@Emanuel-qo1jw]

​@@aresrivera9744 William Afton is evil because he wants immortality. William is an abusive father as shown in sister location and fnaf 6

[@margaretconnor5623]

It's funny that people don't think Mike could possibly ever be nice to his brother. Siblings be like that. I would go to hell and back for my brothers. I've also pitted them against each other to get myself out of trouble, chased one with a knife for eating my food, and swung a shovel at ones head just because. Siblings will go from loving each other to trying to kill each other in an instant

[@porcelainchips6061]

Ms. Afton was murdered, I think. Because most theories around what motivated Mr. Afton to kill Charlette in the first place revolve around having to create a reason a huge amount of motive to "push him over the edge" to actually hurt a child intentionally. But what if he already did? He already killed an adult, due to a custody dispute that wasn't going his way? What's the difference between "she killed herself" and a killer leaving false evidence behind to suggest that? Midnight Motorist has no comment for the mound on the side of the road; if it were his child, he'd have something to say. He see the mound, he knows it is there and has nothing at all to say about it. Further; Ballora as a metaphor says a lot; she dances around and doesn't see = Ms. Afton is danced around and is not seen in the series. Ms.Afton (Clara Afton?) has to have existed, but she has to also be omitted on purpose; when Scott made FNAF4 he had to have intentionally not included a mother; a mother who would have hugged Bite Victim and wiped away his tears. What did Bite Victim see that makes him cry all the time; he is always sad and his mother is never there to comfort him or protect him from getting bullied by his brother.

[@__Soya__]

It’s more likely she killed her self

[@smt64productions40]

@@__Soya__Maybe or maybe William made it look like she did, who knows

[@__Soya__]

@@smt64productions40 I mean seeing as we literally have 0 evidence for William doing it and we have atleast a little evidence she offeddherself I'm go with she offed herself

[@smt64productions40]

@@__Soya__ It is the most likely scenario as to why she died (killing herself) but it is a possiblity

[@__Soya__]

@@smt64productions40 Ya but at that point your just headcannoning. That’s like saying ya but it’s a possibility Micheal is a robot.

[@MBdynamoBostik]

It's clearly obvious that Mike is Foxybro, I don't get why you need to make an entire video on... ...wait don't tell me.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Unfortunately many people still believe he’s the bite victim 😔

[@MBdynamoBostik]

@@ImpulseEvan37 The mikebro/mikevictim controversy is back....and I really did think it was over.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Bro it was never gone lol

[@MBdynamoBostik]

@@ImpulseEvan37 I never felt such emotional, physical and mental damage in my life.

[@MBdynamoBostik]

@@ImpulseEvan37 You said you are like Carlton Burke, right? Well, you are also like Michael Afton.

[@ThomasTaylor258]

The idea of him being glamrock Freddy sucks

[@funtimefreddy4204]

Thank you.

[@FuntimeGastonShow]

yeah

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Yep I agree

[@dong6215]

Fool

[@zelz3011]

Nah.

[@dong6215]

I just say l hate mikebot theory

[@zelz3011]

What is Mikebot?

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

​@@zelz3011 Mike is a rebuilt Bite Victim by William

[@Dav458]

@@zelz3011 basically,Michael is a robot rebuilt by William Afton because he says "I will put you back together" that's what mikebot is

[@zelz3011]

@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Oh that's certainly not true.

[@zelz3011]

@@Dav458 Why would people even believe in that knowing it negs a character and likely doesn't fit the timeline and is way harder than even Elizabots making sense.

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

You not mentioning Mike Schmidt showing up in "Your in the Band"?

[@Sillybeanz]

if fnaf 4 was ever a dream how did the nightmares appear in curse of dread bear since it's canonically fictional in universe

[@absurdityis3925]

Maybe they used that drawing from the logbook and made nightmare fredbear then made the nightmares based off fredbears design

[@dredgengam4610]

It wasn't actually messed up to flush the seabonnies... Think about it Evan: they consumed the goldfish and stole it's form. And the seabonnies were actually kinda mean. I see what you were getting at, but I just wanted to point that out.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

it wasn't inherently messed up to do it, but it was from his brother's perspective

[@cleaveuntome42]

Do we know "how" cassidy/something is writing in the log book?

[@smt64productions40]

Ghost

[@sleepylmguy9968]

Nice video dude and you do bring up some nice points. But I gotta throw in my two cents. Cause there are some issues. Now as someone who is completely neutral to both MikeBro & MikeVictim theories. Well more accurate to say I like both theories. I’ve read some stories that use either one and do it nicely. I don't hate either of them. Tbf I don't hate or dislike any theories in general. I don't get people that do, seem pointless. Point being I see the pros to both approaches. As well as cons. I want to talk about this con I found with mikebro. Why WOULDN’T William bring back his own kid? Or resurrect him, or “put him back together”? What is stopping him from doing it? Or at least try. It's a good question ngl. Cause the thing I realized. He technically has the TOOLS to do it. What do I mean by tools? Am I talking about making them into robots? Not entirely, no am talking about something else. Remnant! Thanks to SL see the effects of Remnant on a person. And it CAN. IN FACT. Reanimated a dead body. So in theory. Couldn’t William sometime after the 83 Bite incident. After killing some kids and stuffing them into suits. Just take CC’s dead body. Grab a syringe. Filled it with Remnant. Inject it into BV body and just let him come back to life. Honestly I don’t see why he wouldn’t or what’s stopping him. Even if you say like Afton doesn’t care about his kids. He doesn’t have to do it out of careness maybe it does as a…experiment. To see if he could and to see if Remnant could make him immortal. Heck that is another explanation how William came back as Springtrap. He probably injects some remnants in him before he die. But that's another topic. Now I know certain people can get…weird or feel some type of way on MikeVictim. For some reason 😑. I done get the hated for it. So good news this question still work if you believe Mike is a separate character. Actually this also raises another question. If Mike is a separate character. Why doesn’t he himself put his younger brother back together? Cause realistically he could do with CC’s body what I just described William could’ve done. After seeing what Remnant can do aka bringing himself back from the dead. Does this make sense where I am going with this guys? Asking these types of questions. Speaking of the Books I do like how you use them. I agree that they do give MikeBro vibes as in connecting the protagonist with Foxy sometime like “Step Closer” But that the books. The games tell us something different. Looking at the games. There is a lot of times when makes the player connect more so with Freddy, Golden Freddy, Shadow Freddy or a Bear in general. Yeah Foxy is one of the animatronics we face but think. Fnaf 1. We die in a Freddy suit. A bear suit. Fnaf 2. We wear a Bear mask to protect ourselves. Plus in the vision we have after the fnaf 2 nights we’re looking through Freddy’s eyes. Fnaf 3. Shadow Freddy to our left. Fnaf 4. A bunch of Freddy stuff. There is not even a Foxy enemy in fnaf 6/FFPS. Plus the player is represented by a guy in a suit with a Bear face. So what's going on here? My guts is telling me to go with the game since that is Scott forte/main thing. I do get Mikebro. Like I say I’m a fan of it too. People say it's satisfying narrative. Which is fair but I don't think you CAN’T say that about MikeVictim. Maybe it's my personal view but as long as you are a good writer you can make any story idea work. Not all but a decent lot. Speaking of Michael can I also throw this question of there? Why does he HAVE to be either? Just saying has thought of the idea that Michael could be neither!? He could be just William 4th kid or his 3rd son in the family. Oh heck maybe he’s both haha...He could be both hmmm🤔. I’ll come back to that. Even you said one reason you are really into Mikebro because it would it feel odd to have Foxybro as a nothing character. Buuut doesn't going with Mikebro implies that BV/CC is the nothing character cause let be honest after Fnaf 4 the BV/CC doesn't get anymore screen time. And before someone say GoldenFreddy=BV Afton I have some issues with GoldenViticim or GoldenDuo.

[@higueraft571]

As a note about the "Why doesnt he just [REMNANT] the CC"... Simple, it happens in 1983. The first instance with him AWARE of Remnant/possession at all would likely be after Charlie's death, sometime between 1983 and 1985. MCI being a way to confirm that "Hypothesis" from observing the Puppet. The MCI kids do possess the suits, he begins working on the Funtimes to streamline the process. In 1986, Elizabeth gets killed and he scraps the plan, resorting to his old method. In 1987, he kills 5 more. etc By the time he's CERTAIN of Remnant, CC has already been dead for 2 years, possibly longer. >Heck that is another explanation how William came back as Springtrap. He probably injects some remnants in him before he die. It's more straightforward really... Cassidy wont LET him die. She forcefully tied him down. Infact, if CC was a passive part of Ennard, most likely HE is what allowed Michael to possess himself too, with Baby's repeating "You wont die" after Ennard had ejected? >We die in a Freddy suit. A bear suit. Fnaf 2. We wear a Bear mask to protect ourselves. These dont indicate that Freddy is Michael's favorite. Infact both of these are more FORCED on him... The animatronics stuff him in a freddy suit. The company supplies the mask. >Fnaf 3. Shadow Freddy to our left. Shadow Freddy is most likely a manifestation of the MCI kids' Agony. Meaning it's tied to the kids, not Michael. >Why does he HAVE to be either? Just saying has thought of the idea that Michael could be neither!? He could be just William 4th kid or his 3rd son in the family. Oh heck maybe he’s both haha...He could be both hmmm🤔. I’ll come back to that. Because there's ZERO evidence for more than Two Sons One Daughter. The Books DO hint that Henry had a Son AND Daughter, but i'm doubting Michael is him... >I have some issues with GoldenViticim or GoldenDuo. Which are...? The books definitely hint towards there being TWO people in the suit. One VERY clearly a parallel to Cassidy. The Logbook implies the two are speaking, meaning CC is very much still around, at the VERY least, for MCI.

[@goncaloandrade5866]

Just want to know something, where exactly were some FNaF ar skins confirmed to be canon?

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Security breach

[@goncaloandrade5866]

@@ImpulseEvan37 The arcades? But then why doesn't that matter? Glitchtrap is also in one of them and how could they even have known?

[@ImpulseEvan37]

@@goncaloandrade5866 bro of course they know about him, he literally altered the ending of the game

[@goncaloandrade5866]

@@ImpulseEvan37 But you don't know what happened to the game after that, maybe Afton thought if more people got infected it would seem too suspicious and get too much atention and made Tape Girl or Vanessa destroy the game and everything linked to it.

[@peppino3609]

08:37 theres a reason foxybro cannot be the guy on the couch: that guy Is bald

[@juliabp6057]

The sprites are usually innacurate. Charlie also appeared as a bald kid in FNAF 2.

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

FoxyBro has tan skin in night 5 but in the other minigames he has light skin, come on my man, William is literally orange in the minigame 💀

[@tamaritamarileonardo394]

really you do know that in the take cake minigame charlie is litarelly a bald child and the kids freddy or freedbear (who ever the animatronic in the minigame is) is giving cake to a bunch of bald kids really.

[@Satoru-Gojou]

Literally William is represent by a Purple Guy, so he is purple then 🤡

[@silverbullet1620]

What if I said Michael was the grown up crying child bot? 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

[@gotem2546]

A true act of evil.

[@GJMinions]

Finally someone agrees that CC ran away

[@creator_of_drama]

MikeVictim is canon.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Nope

[@Satoru-Gojou]

Never was.

[@creator_of_drama]

@@ImpulseEvan37 I suggest a discord debate. Do you agree?

[@1Tombb]

I wonder why CC's name isn't "Michael Afton" in the character Encyclopedia

[@Satoru-Gojou]

@@1Tombb Lol true

[@chaoraiser2338]

I think it's possible Mike could be the player in FNAF 4 if it wasn't confirmed that he isn't but I do think he might be in the night's with nightmare Fredbear and just nightmare especially because the laughs for both the characters specifically nightmare and not nightmare versions sound very similar to different genders if you hear the full laugh tho golden Freddy's full laugh does sound a little bit masculine you can hear the feminine in it too I also saw a theory of nightmare Fredbear and nightmare being CC and Cassidy Fredbear as Cassidy I think and CC as nightmare just to torture Mike for a few nights it's not impossible after all Cassidy probably wouldn't have that much of a problem helping out with it since if they are both golden Freddy then she would probably see his death as also just another murderer or forgivable but needs pay back even if you hear about the parallel to her which is Andrew he says he just wants to scare people so why wouldn't Cassidy wanna scare someone too? So Mike could be there at least for the nights with nightmare and nightmare Fredbear because the two are working together to scare Mike only issue with that is the timeframe of both their deaths but at the same time there's no telling if CC could even do anything until the puppet did something 2 years later it doesn't really work as well as Cassidy dying earlier but I think it's still possible at least the 2 year part maybe

[@BOBimusRex]

I'm not saying you're wrong, but if Foxybro is Mike, then how did Mike survive the bite of 87 and being scooped?

[@ImpulseEvan37]

bro what, mike didn't get bitten and the scooper injects remnant into you which keeps you alive

[@BOBimusRex]

@ImpulseEvan37 The victim of the bite of 87 survived without a frontal lobe. There had to be something special about them to allow them to survive. Like maybe being a reconstructed crying child frankenstein cyborg thing, for example. Just an example. And no, the scooper doesn't inject remnant or keep people alive. It scoops the insides of robots out EXTRACTING remnant. If it was that easy, Will would just scoop himself and be immortal. No. You get scooped. You're dead. I'm not saying Mike is CC either. But just saying Mike is foxybro and is a normal dude doesn't answer the bite of 87 or Mike surviving being scooped. Mike doesn't have to be the victim of the bite of 87, but you have to explain the victim surviving somehow. And Crying child cyborg is the best answer the community has provided for those two conundrums.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

The blueprints for the scooper in fnaf 6 literally blatantly say “Remnant injector” so no. And You CAN survive without the frontal lobe. A quick google search would answer this for you, or just paying attention to phone Guy literally saying that you can survive without it BECAUSE someone did

[@BOBimusRex]

@ImpulseEvan37 Plus if baby could've just used anyone's body to escape she would have done so by then. There was something special about Mike that made her think she could escape in him unlike all the other maintenance workers she killed.

[@BOBimusRex]

@ImpulseEvan37 He's referring to Mike, who only survived because he's basically a zombie, and doesn't need a brain.

[@peppino3609]

Nightmare fredbear laugh Is not canon

[@whocaresaboutthename6850]

Source?

[@zackikianimations]

18,628th viewer and 826th liker and 333rd commenter!

[@shadowsoulless6227]

I thought he had finally gotten rid of that cringy horrible intro music but I guess it's back.... Annoying

[@ImpulseEvan37]

I thought one day you’d just leave and never come back but I guess you’re back… Annoying