FNaF Theory: Why Michael Afton is the FNaF 4 Protagonist…… Again

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[@ImpulseEvan37]

Don’t know why I didn’t know the nightmare laugh was FANMADE so just ignore that but still everything else is still true Hope you enjoyed the video

[@carolynsuniverse]

So Nightmare Fredbear's laugh is in the game, but not Nightmare himself? I'm sorry if I sound stupid, I'm just kinda confused

[@sebastianszyrwinski9320]

@ImpulseEvan_37 Great job, but no, Funtimes have remnant of original 4 animatronics isn't fact, it's theory. Fact is Cassidy is Golden Freddy, BV is Golden Freddy, Mike is protagonist fnaf 4, TOYSNHK is Cassidy and Will in UCN.

[@Cxsonn]

@@sebastianszyrwinski9320, I hate to break it to you, but it is pretty much a fact that the Funtime animatronics have contain remnant from the original four animatronics. There's actually a _ton_ of evidence to support it. Nevertheless, I still respect your opinion, but I am just saying that there is quite a bit of evidence to support that it is a fact, rather than just being a theory.

[@sebastianszyrwinski9320]

@@Cxsonn Why a fact?

[@MBdynamoBostik]

I agree with you. But according to one of Gametheory videos. This must mean that Mike is the bite of '87 victim 'not 83'

[@TonyProductionsIncorp]

Plot twist: The real protagonist of FNAF 4 is Scott Cawthon while making FNAF 1

[@diamondplums503]

WHY IS EVERYONE IGNORING THIS GENIUS COMMENT

[@AWOPF395]

Yeah makes sense cuz scott had nightmares of bonnie.Which could be an inspiration for nightmare bonnie.

[@jigglyback2338]

Well yeah but what about nightmare fredbear and nightmare and nightmarion and plushtrap and nightmare BB like what? The puppet BB Springtrap and fredbear were not a thing in fnaf 1

[@midknight5751]

True

[@lauziyi5728]

Funny

[@lgarmadon776]

I want to add something to this, in the FNAF 2 files, from what I can remember, the cutscenes are labeled as “dream” and Shadow Freddy is listed as “nightmare.”

[@isabelortiz1230]

Nightmare is listed as shadow freddy

[@lgarmadon776]

@@isabelortiz1230 exactly

[@isabelortiz1230]

@@lgarmadon776 Yes but you said it the other way around

[@lgarmadon776]

@@isabelortiz1230 ik there both correct I just didn’t mention the other evidence

[@felixmcscouty4587]

I honestly like to think that William used the illusion discs to essentially torture Michael after the bite, and Michael still has nightmares about it years later. I personally dont like to think that CC holds a vendetta against Michael unless theres evidence i just havent seen, but william choosing to torture his own kid would honestly make sense lol. And the fnaf 4 gameplay is Michael reliving when he was being chased down by these animatronics, so itd explain why the layout of the room doesnt make sense, the distorted phone guy, and other things. Maybe Michael believes CC hates him, or should hate him? And maybe Nightmare is a representation of that belief, or represents CCs death?

[@xadamx94]

It's entirely possible that both CC AND mike saw the nightmares at different times. And maybe CC hated mike at first, but then learns that his dad is an evil piece of shit and knows that mike didnt kill him on purpose and eventually forgives him

[@SuperDababy2]

We also know that the FNaF4 location is a real place since it has cams in it linked to the SL bunker. The Survival logbook also has the nightmares in it and we know it's drawn in there by Michael. CC totally doesn't hold anything against Mike, or at least not by the point of FNaF1. It's me could be CC telling Michael that's he's there, or Michael knowing that he's there and thinking about how he's the reason he's dead. We also know that Michael is chill with Cassidy and the MCI kids after the survival logbook, since they never attack him again after that (unless you count the Molten Freddy).

[@L_trump]

Fnaf 4 (play thing) gotta take place after fnaf 1 night 1 as theres a secret first night 1 call secret easter egg

[@aplusgamer6595]

All you really need to do to figure it out is just look at Mike’s drawing if Fredbear. If you’ll recall, Michael writes and draws stuff in red ink. That’s literally it. You’ve solved it.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

I know but too many people don’t get that

[@The_champion_of_johto]

​@@ImpulseEvan37 Fnaf 4 passes decades before fnaf 1, also would not make sense be mike since the radio is just a reversed version of the phone call because instead of scott make radio noises or a new sound, he just re-used the phone call from fnaf 1, and theres toys on the floor since its a child's bedroom, and pot of flower

[@dyrzeujaysiqueirosrodrigue6466]

​@@The_champion_of_johtoIt's implied that the gameplay sections are in Michael head during or after the events of FNAF 1, meanwhile the minigames do take place in 1983.

[@indoplus7557]

Love the video, as always. I honestly can't believe that people believe Mike being the FNaF 4 isn't a fact when evidence basically says "Mike is the FNaF 4 player".

[@hijamisbat5224]

B-R-U-H

[@SavouryGalette]

What evidence? Where is this so called evidence?

[@guarana-suquinho]

@@SavouryGalette Reversed phone call and Survival Log Book.

[@CRlM3S]

Reversed phone call is just an easter egg bro

[@somesmallbrain]

@@CRlM3Sdid you not watch the video, bro? The creator mentions in the video that scott made a post when fnaf 4 was made, confirming that there are no easter eggs and its all connected.

[@edrick106]

Mike had nightmares that were a mixture of his fears from Fnaf 1, fnaf 2, AND sister location. - All nightmares have 5 fingers, so do the Funtimes, the animatronics in fnaf 1 only had 4 fingers. - People forget that Michael was canonically jumpscared by Funtime Foxy at the end of night 3 in sister location. The structure of Funtime Foxy's snout, matches with Nightmare Foxy's snout, almost perfectly. - Scott made Nightmare BB canon, indicating Mike has worked at the fnaf 2 location, as Fritz Smith, although, that would mean Nightmare Mangle could also be canon. But she isn't. Anyway - Nightmare Fredbear has a mouth in his belly, because in the 3rd night of sister location, Mike had to open Freddy's "Chest cavity", and in the same night, if you hear Baby's story, she uses the expression "My stomach opened." Mike never saw Elizabeth's death, he only heard Baby's vague description. So his brain basically mixed the "chest cavity" and "stomach opened" and got the concept of: A belly with a mouth. - Mike uses a digital clock, and wakes up at 6AM. This shows he doesn't work as night guard anymore, and neither as a "late night technician." Which means, the nightmares take place after fnaf 2, fnaf 1, and after Mike gets scooped. (yes i believe Sister Location is after fnaf 1) - The hospital easter-eggs are a memory from when Mike was at the hospital, next to BV's bed, waiting for him to wake up, he was even present during his death, since we see him apologizing - I don't believe the nightmares were real, even with the breaker room map. Because all the parallels in F.F, don't have the "real" factor. It's just nightmares. Not someone making illusion animatronics to make another person afraid of Freddy's. If William wanted to keep BV from leaving his house and going to Freddy's, there are several, easier ways to do it. Lock him at home , hire a babysitter , or even tell Mike to keep an eye on him. Why spend money and resources building super advanced robots to keep a single kid from leaving the house? When you can, you know, just lock the door when you go out? - The nightmares can't have the illusion disks, because that's not how they work in the books. They can only warp the general appearance of an animatronic, based on what you feel about it. The original concept was made by Henry. Kids would enter the pizzeria, and see posters of the animatronics, that would put the idea in the brains, that they are friendly, so when the illusion disks are used, they are turned into "real cartoon characters" to the kids. Of course, William took this tech and re-purposed it. Nightmare Foxy turns into a plush. According to what we see in Twisted Ones, that would be impossible. The illusion disks do change the apparent size of the Twisted animatronics, but it doesn't make them super big or super small. Nightmare Cupcake jumps without any means of propulsion, he doesn't even appear to have a spring. And a important detail, the BV calls the main 4 animatronics his friends. Every night you can interact with the plushies, he calls them friends. So if William is trying to make him scared of them, he's failing. So it is more likely, he isn't trying at all. BV is only afraid of the spring-lock suits. - Then what are the grey dots in the breaker room map? Honestly i don't know, maybe it was something Scott had planned but gave up on. But again, BV didn't had nightmares about Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy, because he always calls them his friends. Why would he even keep the plushies if William was scaring him with them? - Shadow Freddy could be entering Mike's dreams to feed on his agony. In the fazbear frights books, it is basically confirmed they need agony/shadowy remnant to continue to exist. Shadow Freddy's loading screen in fnaf world is "I will eat your soul." - I don't think Nightmare Fredbear's laughs show he is BV, they could be Mike having flashbacks of BV crying. Extra theory: The Plushtrap minigame is a parallel to the missing children incident. Plushtrap represents William, who goes to 4 rooms, before killing you. 4 rooms = 4 dead kids. So you have to stop this "miniature" of William in the X, otherwise, he will kill a 5th victim. So to sum it up, Mike was scooped, which broke his memories , all dead people in the books have "fuzzy" memories. When Mike came back to life as the "purple zombie", he started having nightmares about all he had went through so far. The death of his brother, Fnaf 2, Fnaf 1, and sister location. Shadow Freddy shows up to eat Mike's agony, to become stronger.

[@User_Here414]

I agree with most of the stuff you said

[@quanashiab.9620]

Yess

[@colourfungus]

fnaf world is not completely canon though

[@colourfungus]

plush trap theory is a huge stretch and is unlikely

[@colourfungus]

in sister location there is a Funtime Springlock suit, springlock suits have 5 fingers.

[@FatrickAteman]

Nightmare Fredbear being the final boss is very interesting, Golden Freddy is what killed Evan in the first place to be hunted by it as Micheal adds a lot of weight to the idea he's having a perspective flip type torture. Also, Golden Freddy being associated with Evan means this is thematically and maybe even *literally* a battle between both Brothers.

[@RealRoboKnight]

Michael being the protagonist up until UCN is weird... yet it makes sense...

[@slendertentacle]

09:00 Finally someone brings up map from SL and voiceline from UCN. Everyone else ignores them and still think that FNaF 4 gameplay is 100% dream. Thank you

[@ayuubabdi9053]

I definitely agree with the video, however I want to say one thing, the nightmare laugh is actually fanmade, and is fake, since I search up nightmare laugh, and see the description of the video, and it says, that he decided to take a shot making nightmare laugh, especially when I played FNAF 4 again, when I saw nightmare, I can only hear nightmare fredbear laugh, when nightmare came in. But notherless I clearly agree with you, as Mike being the FNAF 4 player, being a fac-, I mean theory that is the most possible. Jokes aside, Michael being the FNAF 4 player is a fact.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Rip Well ignore that but everything else is true

[@ayuubabdi9053]

@@ImpulseEvan37 yeah, but notherless, great video, really love it, and basically Michael afton being the FNAF 4 player is a fact.

[@macleanfamily3933]

BRUH WHAT ABOUT THE FREDDY FILES IT STATES THAT MIKE IS THE OLDER BRO AND C.C IS THE ONE WE ARE PLAYING AS THE THE FREDDY FILES IS NOT A FAN MADE THING

[@ayuubabdi9053]

@@macleanfamily3933 here the thing though, the Freddy files is misleading, like they literally have some things wrong, such as purple guy being phone guy, or the shadows animatronics helping the kids, etc. don’t act like that the whole book is the way to solve the lore, when it literally have things that are literally debunked. Also you didn’t need to say that mike is a the older bro, cause I already believe that Michael is the older brother, like the video of Michael afton being the fnaf 4 player, where he said that Michael is the older brother, he doesn’t nor I believe that mike is cc, that’s not the point of the video he made.

[@f7or1n]

here is something that supports this, the fnaf 4 jumpscare sound at the end sounds like fnaf 1, since fnaf 1 is before fnaf 4 gameplay makes sense that he remembers that sound

[@BombyIsaac]

My Theory is that Michael isn't cursed or something but his Father is actually punishing him with an Illusion Disk And the IV, Pills and Flowers are there because William assaulted and injured Michael after CC died and they're for him

[@Samuello2024]

Bruh, they aren't even connected to Michael.

[@YZyx.]

What's crazier is they don't have this room in the afton household 😂 So it doesn't makes sense for the crying child as the bite victim

[@mariangela_joaopedro261]

I 100% agree with this -fact- theory

[@retronoir289]

I agree as well

[@The_champion_of_johto]

Fnaf 4 passes decades before fnaf 1, also would not make sense be mike since the radio is just a reversed version of the phone call because instead of scott make radio noises or a new sound, he just re-used the phone call from fnaf 1, and theres toys on the floor since its a child's bedroom

[@Dumbo-zx7oc]

I personally think both of them are having the fnaf 4 nightmares crying child when he goes in a coma and mike during the events of fnaf 1

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Technically yeah, but what we play in FNaF 4 is exclusively Mike

[@funkymonkey7065]

@@ImpulseEvan37I am confused on the “Michael and the BV both experienced the nightmares” thing could you please explain?

[@drtrolleur3012]

@@funkymonkey7065 the player we play in fnaf 4 is michael but Evan/BV could have experience nightmares, however, we do not play them

[@senbei-kun8329]

I'm a little confused on one part, why would michael be hearing the audio tapes in his dreams if bv was the one william used the tapes on

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Because bv is putting Michael through the experiences he went through

[@phredphrog446]

So if you play in first person and the eye level is literally the door knob, which means the character your playing is like 4 feet, aka a CHILD

[@daniellemurnett2534]

My one problem with this video is the statement that Molten MCI proves that SL is post FNaF 1 as an undeniable fact. Molten MCI is a well-founded theory that's taken for granted more and more as we move into modern fnaf lore, but it doesn't necessarily prove that SL _can't_ have happened before FNaF 1. Molten absolutely could have gotten parts of the fnaf 1 animatronics, including their souls (as evidenced by the fact that Ennard and Molten are collectives despite not having *all* the parts of their original components), at practically any point in time after Ennard leaves Michael. Indeed, any or all Funtimes might've been injected with the MCI remnant prior to Ennard forming, but there's straight up no reason to believe that they _couldn't_ have obtained more souls after the fact. But hey, maybe I just need to stop clinging to Mike-guard.

[@Songal18]

I also want to point out that the bedspread would not be used by a child. I will say that time works differently for people in comas, so 1 day for us might be 8 for a coma patient. I want to say, you hear a child's voice over Nightmare Fredbear's, so that is either Cassidy or William's Youngest son, and to me I think it is William's youngest son, not because he possess Fredbear the same way he possess Golden Freddy, but it's his Agony that is in Fredbear, or Nightmare Fredbear. Yeah, even hearing it slowed down it sounds like crying in some parts. The only thing about this theory I don't agree with is Charlotte being Fredbear Plush, it's Michael, using Fredbear to comfort his brother and try and apologize, by using the only thing that brought his brother comfort. Awesome fact/theory and yeah even without the parallels from the books I do believe this is Michael reliving the nightmares his brother went through.

[@Songal18]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 Hello

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@Songal18 I do think the fredbear plush is a walkie talke and charile emily due to the cliffs, the fnaf4 minigames, and the sl custom night room.

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 Hi

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 You don't have to say that the 2nd time ree.

[@Songal18]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 Okay

[@ShadowLibra]

I ruined everything, this video had 83 likes and I made it 84

[@federicoperazzo9]

I missed this kind of "old fnaf game theory" videos

[@MBdynamoBostik]

I still remember them. They helped me find out that Mike was the victim of the bite of 87 (not 83, please do not get them mixed up. Lots of people get the bites mixed up sadly 😥)

[@kittykat1791]

Really good job finding evidence! Very strong proposals, I am pretty well convinced that it is Mike we play as, now. I like the idea that it is his little brother torturing him, though it is also very sad.

[@The_champion_of_johto]

Fnaf 4 passes decades before fnaf 1, also would not make sense be mike since the radio is just a reversed version of the phone call because instead of scott make radio noises or a new sound, he just re-used the phone call from fnaf 1, and theres toys on the floor since its a child's bedroom

[@parakeetbudgie]

and the bite victim got his frontal lobe bitten off but your frontal lobe is involved in dreaming or having nightmares so he wouldn't be able to dream properly so even if bite victim was the protagonist this wouldn't take place after the bite

[@SavouryGalette]

Well, I appreciate that you don't just say "Michael Afton is the protagonist, hands down!". Instead you come up with reasonable explanations for how FNaF 4 plays out.

[@jobbes3220]

And all the post-night mini games in fnaf 2 and 3 had nothing to do with the gameplay. In fnaf 2 you were freddy on stage in the fnaf 1 location with the puppet all in your face and in fnaf 3 you had shadow freddy lead you to the safe room. It makes sense that fnaf 4's mini games weren't about the protagonist.

[@drtrolleur3012]

you just convinced me... Evan doing this to his brother is kinda cool ngl

[@jacobwilmot]

I agree with a good portion of this stuff my primary issue being where it fits in the timeline and what nightmare is. So one thing to note is the main bit of evidence that shadow freddy represents William because of a single voiceline, this is a pretty weak point and while there is foreSHADOWing of the shadows being made of agony there is a much stronger point to be made from both the stitchwraith stories and princess quest for shadow freddy being not a collective of agony created from multiple tragedies and people as we can assume with shadow bonnie but instead just being created by bite victim. Because a shadow projection version of an animatronic with two spirits happens twice to golden freddy stand in characters and yeah you could say bite victim takes over shadow freddy later on, but that goes from theory to speculation as again that isn't supported by much. Now the other issue is the timeline having sister location after fnaf 1 and yes, yes, I know.. I know there is a ton of evidence supporting this and how the direction the story is going in points towards this being 100% the case. BUT if this theory is true it poses a major plot hole in the story whether it be the funtimes are straight up made from the melted endoskeletons of the fnaf 1 animatronics or they were injected with the remnant from the fnaf 1 animatronics or any other theory tying their creation together. If the melted endosleletons are what were used to create the funtimes that means the funtimes were made after fnaf 1 meaning Elizabeth's death hasn't happened yet when we know it already has, the problem with them only being injected with the MCI remnant and the funtimes already existing is the remnant was clearly collected all in one night as on the fifth night William didn't disassemble any animatronics so him going to the resteraunt a fifth time would most likely be pointless as well as him stretching the process out for five nights when it could be done in one and also the time and weather is the same in each minigame. (plus its supposed to mirror the way he killed them according to the Henry recording and we know they all went missing at one time as he is arrested before the other three missing kids are reported missing(if of course this is what that recording was referencing)) So if we are to assume it all took place in one night, that means he died collecting the remnant and everything he collected was sealed in the backroom for 30 years with him and we know there isn't a way for the remnant to be collected as we know if there was a way out of the saferoom William wouldn't have been trapped there. We also know he was there for all 30 years because thats where they find him in the next installment. Another thing to note from the candy cadet stories is it is five things becoming one but we know William never got to Golden Freddy as he is completely untouched in UCN's final animation and we never seem him get destroyed. I really want to believe Moletn MCI as there is obviously so much stuff trying to explain this and allude to this being true without anything else it could be alluding to down to molten Freddy's name but the plot hole issues still remain; the fait of golden Freddy's remnant, how the remnant got to sister location, who was running the sister location and telling the employees to use the scooper when Afton was dead. But this is all not to mention from a story telling perspective this would be incredibly dissatisfying as it completely invalidates fnaf 3 as a whole as the fire literally did nothing. But also wouldn't make sense as to why Michael risked his life for all five nights at Freddy's when he had nothing to gain but minimum wage where as sister location there is a clear motive for him to stay and its ending introduces a motive for his presence in every other game which would make it fit way better at the beginning. Which is subjective and honestly who knows maybe Michael needed to fund his lean addiction and somehow just didn't happen to notice the animatronics moving the whole time because he was busy chewing bubble gum or something but still I think that's something to chew on. Pun intended.

[@monsieurlefrog8706]

damn

[@WRRRYYYYYYYY]

I was too lazy to read the whole thing

[@WRRRYYYYYYYY]

@@monsieurlefrog8706 yea Damn

[@monsieurlefrog8706]

@@WRRRYYYYYYYY i didnt either dw

[@WRRRYYYYYYYY]

@@monsieurlefrog8706 hahahahahahah :D . Who read?

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

The sad thing is, there were a 'small' handful of people who suspected this in the first two months after the games release. They got shot down. Now people insist this whole thing was a retcon or unsolvable at the time.

[@sethyredninja1422]

Where can I find this information?

[@whoce2821]

The fact you had to make another video about this is just... b r u h That said, I do disagree with some stuff you said, most notably the Nightmare animatronics being real, but still, the overall premise of the video is definitely something that everyone should know. Oh, and by the way, here's another connection I found to further relate Michael to the FNAF 4 nightmares; Nightmare Foxy doesn't actually start out in the closet. Instead he roams around the house and can appear in either hallway, at which point you have to find him and shine the light in his eyes to make him go away or else he'll get into the closet. This reminds me a lot of Withered Foxy's mechanic in FNAF 2, where he sometimes appears in the hall and you have to shine the light at him to make him leave or else he'll kill you. This would also further connect Michael to Fritz Smith.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

The nightmare animatronics definitely are real but I guess whatever if you don’t believe it lol

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@ImpulseEvan37 Altleast you respect that lol

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@ImpulseEvan37 cause fnaf is all about people having opinions, even the cringe ones and some people are gonna feel like there wrong about every theory.

[@salseren1152]

@@ImpulseEvan37 i feel these theories don't have to be answered it helped the player question what is real in the universe and what is not for all we know is these illusion discs could help give the nightmares even more life and also micheal experiences these nightmares as they were once used for the bite victim now you're the test victim now the victims room is showed to be one room in the 8bit mini games it makes sense he would be haunted by the grief and the pills could be used for his depression just some of my theories I agree with some of your theories why would Mike have a prefect drawing of fredbear in his book because the fredbear could represent the victim or crying childs spirit haunting mike till he begins his quest for sister location and his hunt for spring trap afterwards who knows I know these games all connect and its fun to have different theories thanks for a great video

[@john3c799]

“The Freddy files telling us we play as a child” sums up how you are wrong

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Not only is the freddy files unreliable, but the entire point of the theory is that the bite victim is torturing Mike, putting Mike in the position the bite victim was in, meaning its mike in the body of a child.

[@drtrolleur3012]

@@ImpulseEvan37 So Evan made Michael be his past self (by "rewinding time" on his body) or Michael is in Evan's skin ?

[@GHOSTLYOCCULT]

Bro I thought everyone knew this- I never really thought you were playing as Mike's brother tbh

[@MarioManProductions_]

Plot twist: FNaF 4 was based off of Scott’s childhood night terrors

[@peppino3609]

Y'all..... I have a CRAZY theory. In the game... We play as scott chatwonn himself

[@Fazcakes]

Ya but in the games, we see that BV is like the hight of a fricking table, and during the nights the player is only as tall as the doorknob.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

I see you are ignoring literally the entire video

[@Fazcakes]

@@ImpulseEvan37 in what part do you address this. Please tell me

[@ImpulseEvan37]

The point of the video was that the bite victim was putting Michael in the position William put the bite victim in.

[@Fazcakes]

@@ImpulseEvan37 so he shrank? I'm not saying your theory is wrong but that just conflicted with it a little

[@Samuello2024]

@@Fazcakes Either Michael is crouching or It wasn't planned for Michael to be the protagonist back when FNAF 4 was made.

[@ghfg4402]

I have a fact that says that we play the crying child from night 1 to night 5, as for night 7 we play with the Michael the reason for the appearance of the nightmare. I am not sure of these facts, but I think

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Literally explained why this is factually not true in this video

[@ghfg4402]

@@ImpulseEvan37 thank you

[@cameron20_]

What if the laugh is Michael's and it slowly descends into crying, in accordance to him laughing then panicking when Evan's head gets crushed? (Don't get me wrong, I 100% believe Michael is Foxybro and who we play as in FNAF4, 3, 2 and 1 alongside FNAF SL and 6.)

[@MBdynamoBostik]

I believe that Mike is our protagonist in the first 6 games.

[@cameron20_]

@@MBdynamoBostik I agree with that.

[@MBdynamoBostik]

@@cameron20_ Do you believe that Jeremy Fitzgerald = Michael Afton?

[@cameron20_]

@@MBdynamoBostik No I do not. I'm also a Jeremike shipper lmao

[@MBdynamoBostik]

@@cameron20_ I do

[@NOBODY-bk8tj]

I always think Michael is the fnaf 4 protagonist because of the minigame and survival logbook, but I didn't expect this much evidence-

[@BOREDGAMERGAMING]

The truw fnaf 4 protagonist, is the friends we made along the way.

[@Paradoxed29]

Nightmares laugh deffinetley sounds like a creepy slowed down version of someone crying i sbould know cuz i used to cry very dramatically when i was younger

[@Berries12378]

This theory is pretty interesting! Though, I’m still confused who is the protagonist Crying Child or Michael Afton? 🤨

[@quanashiab.9620]

Maybe both

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Mike, and that’s factual

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@ImpulseEvan37 yes

[@Dr.spider1983]

@@quanashiab.9620 Yes. I believe that to a degree I think

[@nekogamer2508]

The minigames definitely the little brother

[@charliesremnant]

damn this is a really good theory and makes a LOT of sense thank u for this theory

[@hineraable]

I do think the nightmare animatronics are illusion disks, however, i do not think that this proves that William use them on the Crying Child, specially not if he just wanted CC to stay away from the animatronics, it makes no sense, is way too overcomplicated (besides, i think CC died before Elizabeth did, but that's another discussion). What i do think is that CC probably had normal, non illusion disks related nightmares about the animatronics, and based on that, after CC's death, William may have use the illusion disks to torture Micheal for what he did. Also, i think that Molten First MCI isn't necessarily a fact, Molten Second MCI could be possible, allowing Sister Location to take place before FNAF 1, and in turn allowing the Toy animatronics to not to be possessed.

[@TheGreenManiac10]

I used to belive that we play as the Crying Child from Night 1 to 5 and on Night 6 we play as Michael I used thought this because it could link up with the Logbook of Mike having Recent Dream of Nightmare Fredbear And because in FNAF Night 6 was mostly for lore but thats just my head putting random things together to make up something Plus: There's one thing you didn't mention that futher confirms that we play as mike in fnaf 4 and thats Fredbear's design represents how Mike would see all of the bad memories we know why mike sees Fredbear because thats what killed The Crying Child but Fredbear's Stomach Mouth matches how he would perseve his Sister Elizabeth's Death she did going into CB's child storage thing which explains why Fredbear has a Stomach mouth its probably mike thing his sister was eaten by a Monster

[@Fredbear-q7t]

Im two years late but this theory is just so good, Im very amazed by the way you studied it! Especially with nightmare being Williams agony, great job!

[@joshcurtis1690]

This ain’t a fact. The smoking gun to you shoot a hole through your theory is how come the view is so low to the ground. Is Mike a midget? Certainly not the sprites show he’s much taller than what we see in game.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

As I explained in the video, the bite victim is putting Michael in the position that he was in as a form of torture. It is absolutely a fact.

[@sirfazbear4993]

Agreed Evan💯

[@sincere745]

I always come back

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Based

[@Gmex_ONE]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 no more shark facts? Lol. At first I thought u were a bot but now I see ur an actual FNAF fan, who also loves sharks 🦈!

[@Gmex_ONE]

@@MegalodonProductions2022 I know now Lol! 😃

[@rarelifesfeets9801]

Nice theory but I've got a pretty important point, how can Nightmare Fredbear, Nightmare and Nightmarionne be in Custom Night?

[@TapWaterEnjoyerWasTaken]

Maybe William tested it or Cassidy knowing idk

[@zacharypeterson1331]

You said that it’s a fact that the Funtime animatronic’s are made out of the FNAF 1 animatronics when there is evidence in game making that impossible

[@ImpulseEvan37]

No there is not, and there is evidence in game making it a flat out fact. Henry flat out *says* that it is true. Watch my video on Sister Location’s placement in the timeline

[@willow_tree5476]

No hate, but if someone is in a coma they can still take pills.

[@TheMidnight_Toast]

I know I'm late but I like to think that night 1-4 is the bite victim(before the bite incident)'s nightmares and night 5-6 and nightmare mode is Michael having dreams of what he did to his brother, being put in his brothers place and being tormented in his dreams because of guilt.

[@endergeticknight1749]

Amazing how many videos you had to make of this!

[@ImpulseEvan37]

2 lol

[@Andrewwaterfire]

8:07 for some reason I saw a mirrored version of this image on the KZbin ui did anyone else see that?

[@jaspershores575]

Can't believe it took me this long to figure this out and someone else has had this theory out this whole time. Literally went on KZbin to see if anyone else thought so too.

[@unaimaillo5785]

The nightmare laugh you've used is fanmade

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Say what now

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Rip

[@Isabela-bp6ql]

You know what why don't we just ask Scott?? Until he approves the theory i'll just belive both 😑:)

[@Selena223]

And not is just Crying Child who wanted payback William also did and it does make since to me more then it does with Crying Child being one with the Nightmares

[@hyugalubbok7770]

Have you heard of game theoy say of Nightmare being Lefty? Wich fitt to the Puppet's (Charlotte guardian-robot, and speculated to be the crying child) black-white Tendrils's seen inside Lefy in the back ally...

[@lizletilburn6011]

Michael being the Fnaf 4 protagonist strengthens the fact that he is technically the main character of the series which I’m glad about. I’m still disappointed that it’s proven that Michael himself was not the BV because honestly, that would have made him a much more interesting character and it also would have made a much cooler story. But Michael being shown to practically being the MC of Fnaf makes up for that disappointment.

[@garlicamvs6235]

I mean I don’t think Mike was there for fnaf 1 or 2 since it was still in the 80s.

[@jared2879]

@@garlicamvs6235he was for 1 but not 2

[@THEKINGPINOFZ]

​@@jared2879then who is fritz lol?

[@PyrusPlays87]

To this day i still strongly believe that we're playing as Michael Afton.

[@starwarrior1238]

Nightmares laugh sounds like me whenever I eat Taco Bell

[@ibis03]

11:02 I think it'd be a little bit better to say that Foxy is more like he was in FNAF 2, since he appears at the front and you need to scare him away with a flashlight, but FNAF 1 might also be okay

[@Grentas7]

nice video, I still don't know believing who the fnaf 4 player is, expecially because there are good points in both sides, for example the phone guy easter egg confirm mike being the player, but at the same time I'm not convinced by the fact that the fnaf 4 room is decorate like a 7 yo bedroom, and not a room for a teen or an adult like mike, and the fnaf 4 player movements are a lot childish, for example he walk like a kid, and he have a kid's size, he barely reach the door handle

[@mariangela_joaopedro261]

Uh... *he literally addresses those points in the damn video*

[@Grentas7]

@@mariangela_joaopedro261 oh ok, I have watched the entire video but maybe I wasn't paing attention when he explain this points, can you please link me the minute were he explain it? thanks

[@Thecon3head]

The fact that everyone still thinks that we play as CC is ridiculous. It's been proven wrong

[@drtrolleur3012]

because it make sense that Evan actually had nightmares, since he's a traumatized kid

[@Thecon3head]

@@drtrolleur3012 bro that was a year ago I don't even remember any fnaf lore anymore

[@drtrolleur3012]

@@Thecon3head lmao

[@jrv8803]

Don't get me wrong, your theory is really good, and it uses all the evidence in a very convincing way, and even if I don't personally believe it, its not because your theory is wrong or easily disprovable but just because there are many ways to interpret the events in a franchise like fnaf. But claiming that it is fact is a large stretch, Yes there is one very solid piece of evidence to prove it, but in fnaf you can't just have one solid piece of evidence to claim something as fact. For things to be fact within fnaf they have to be reinforced across multiple games or completely integral to the story. Once again I'm not saying that you are wrong but using the phone guy dialogue to say it is absolute fact and indisputable in a game like fnaf is a bit of an oversight. William being Springtrap is fact, The events of the puppets murder and possession are fact, and Elizabeth being the one to inhabit baby is fact. It requires multiple extremely strong unshakable pieces of evidence to claim it as fact, not one strong piece of evidence and some smaller ones that fit with it. (Also I do agree to some degree that Michael had nightmares, and personally I'm more in the camp of the gameplay is meant to directly mirror the crying child but imply on a deeper level that Michael at some point also has similar nightmares, but aren't the ones depicted in the game. It just makes more sense to me that the game is trying to tell us Mike is also having nightmares rather than the game putting Michael in the shoes of the crying child. But once again its all up to how one interprets it, and I still think this a really cool theory none the less, the more ideas that fluctuate the better chance we have of figuring it out. Keep up the good work :)

[@kiritosintern]

Thanks to MatPat and earlier FNAF theories, I’ve always accepted that we playing as the Crying Child in the actual FNAF 4 gameplay, but after this (and further evidence down the line like UCN and the Logbook) I understand why Michael is the person we play as in FNAF 4. The only thing I’m still not sure or bought up by is the timeline placement (FNAF 4 being after FNAF 1). But still, now I’m thinking if Michael Afton is also who we play as in UCN, and not William Afton like we thought. It wouldn’t really make much sense for William Afton to face off against his own self (Springtrap and Scraptrap), unless there’s some kind of explanation to it like “you are your own worst enemy” or something. And if Cassidy and the Crying Child are both possessing Golden Freddy, the Crying Child may be the Vengeful Spirit and The One You Shouldn’t Have Killed. Cassidy being TOYSHK (I’m too lazy to retype the entire thing) doesn’t really make much sense as of now since we don’t really know much about her, other than being one of the missing children who got murdered. And TOYSHK has been stated to be a he/him (from Withered Chica and Mangle), which does match Crying Child’s gender. Even though Michael is his brother, I don’t think the Crying Child has forgiven him yet. He was killed on what was supposed to be his happiest day and I think that’s exactly what a vengeful spirit would be vengeful for. I might be missing out some details and stuff but this video opened up a something new view for me and I wanna see what you all think as well.

[@mr.bubblz5886]

Okay, so I think that CC died first. Henry’s creation Fredbear caused the death of his child and it drove him to drinking regularly at Jr’s, the former Fredbear diner location which closed due to CC’s death(definitely unsure about the location tho, it could totally be Freddy’s as well) Charlie’s murder was an opportunity that presented itself to William, I don’t think he drove there with that intention but he killed Charlie at the Freddy’s location. A child for a child, he took his revenge against Henry. After being turned away from Jr’s for being already intoxicated, he drove home and his wife watching tv told him to leave Michael alone, he had a rough night. When William fails to get in the bedroom and goes around to the window, Michael is gone (presumably to CC’s grave nearby) William claims that his son will pay for this. He has resentment for causing CC’s death, I believe he exposed Michael to the nightmare gas as punishment. As for the footprints, they could belong to Golden Freddy, manifesting himself outside, with his grave being nearby. CC didn’t die right away from the bite, he fell into a coma. I think the line, “I will put you back together” was told to CC in a coma by William, before CC died in the hospital. This fits with him sending Michael in sister location to put his sister Elizabeth back together as well. If the gas leaks were truly nightmare gas, then Michael had been exposed since childhood, hence why he would send him instead of just go himself, William is (or was) gathering remnant to put his children back together. In regards to the plushie telling the fnaf4 protagonist, “you know what you saw” I think that the plushie (william) is speaking to Michael referring to his brother CC’s death, which Michael caused, he’s guilt tripping him and torturing him. Anywho, just my theory! I love the videos!

[@quanashiab.9620]

I agree for both cc being the fnaf4 protagonist and mike being the fnaf4 protagonist, I do like funtimemci but to me it's not the souls itself but mike4protag is definitely a fact and I do now believe that cc had the nightmares after death(and I literally put I got no time video that has cc after all the fnaf4 minigames in my fnaf4 timeline with head canon playlist ree) but maybe he did had nightmare fredbear due to you know, and what if the halloween edition is canon and the nightmare fredbear from the halloween edition is real and that's cc and nightmare is definitely shadow freddy(I do still think mike is OMC and yes it wouldn't make sense but there's still is proof to him being him just like cc and kinda shadow freddy) now makes me wanna add shadow freddy being nightmare in my gachs fnaf au fully so yex.

[@ilma-dr2vg]

Wait question, if michael was the fnaf 4 player, does that mean the crying child never had nightmares?? Or did they both have nightmares

[@SayoriChan640]

I'm pretty sure everyone knows this now, I get you want to put videos for those who's new to FNAF and doesn't get the wrong ideas but still.. no hate though this video rocks

[@ImpulseEvan37]

actually most of the community doesn't believe it, so this video is definitely necessary

[@SayoriChan640]

@@ImpulseEvan37 I mean regardless of who Michael Afton is he's definitely the protagonist. Sorry I've just been annoyed with FNAF lately

[@ilovecats1124]

No you play as cc because in the mini games in fnaf 4 you play as cc in in fnaf 4 mini games

[@oofyeet5935]

Thats Micheals consequences. The minigame shows what he did and why he is getting punished

[@abdocake]

​@@oofyeet5935no. Its not. Im fnaf ucn the nightmare amnitronics are there so how did golden freddy knew about them if it was Michael's nightmare?

[@vaevvolfz]

​@@abdocake Golden Freddy/Cassidy is implied to be capable of looking into peoples memories, as evident of Cassidy asking certain questions in the logbook like "was your favorite toy a purple plastic telephone?" and "was your favorite ride the carousel?", and so forth. Golden Freddy knowing about the nightmares doesn't prove CC is having them at all(especially because the theory that CC is in Golden Freddy is unlikely with current information)

[@syweb2]

Man, that's a lot of Fazbear Frights stories hammering this in. That's some good research on your part for the Mike4 (or whataver it's called) thing. 0:30 Pretty sure MoltenMCI still hasn't been explicitly made canon, so your statement of it as fact might still come across as presumptuous. Also, as some other theorists like ID's Fantasy point out, one should probably make a distinction between MultenMCI and FuntimeMCI, as it's possible that Molten Freddy picked up bits from the original animatronics without the Funtimes necessarily being made from them. 4:08 Do we actually know game-Mike's reasons for bullying BV? Last I checked, there wasn't any in-game or in-logbook material explaining why, so we would have to rely entirely on parallels for that motivation, which you should probably mention. 7:20 It doesn't say "recent dreams". It says, and I quote: "Do you have dreams?" The word "recent" is never seen in that message. Please double-check your assumptions.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

the page mike draws nightmare fredbear on is a page of the logbook that literally asks you about your recent dreams

[@GLAMROCK_FREDDY58]

Guys we play as cc cause if u saw nightmare jump scare it has and ambulance siren but slowed cause he was going to hospital after the bite and mike we play as him in night 6-7 William made a gas make u HALUCATION about animatronics so he was testing that gas on kids to see if it's working it worked then he used it on cc to make him go away from animatronics he didn't want cc die like ELITHABETH so while william using the gas it got to Michael so he dreamee about fredbear and the others and when he died that was before puppet was made so golden fred plush was William going to put him in Fred bear since he know how to do ot cause he did it on the 5 missing children and puppet was made since fnaf 2 the others since fredbear family diner and how cc died he cried in fredbear mouth so the spring locks opened and crashed his head if he didn't cry he wouldn't be dead

[@ChartZephyr]

honestly these theorys are what makes FNAF FNAF

[@sparx6766]

I heard you mentioned elizabeth dying before crying child. Can you explain then why William would create the murder? Weapons known as the fun time animatronics, so early in the timeline if he hasn't committed the mci yet?

[@basheruzzol]

In fnaf help wanted you can play night terrors and the person that made night terrors would know what the nightmares look like so there is still a problem

[@damiancruz42]

15:16 got that cartoon villain laugh

[@Tyrannosaurus_rex.]

I think both the CC and Michael experienced fnaf 4. As we seem to be a small child in the game. I think fnaf 4 happens before fnaf 1 so why would either hear it?

[@NobodyUndefined]

This is so frustrating because there's too much conflicting evidence. Mike HAS to be Crying Child because Shadow Bonnie and Shadow Freddy in FNAF 2 are based off the shadows he saw during FNAF 4 (the cutscenes where we see Freddy and Bonnie's shadows on the wall). And because Mike drew nightmare Freddy in the logbook too. Why would Foxy Bro be seeing the shadows/nightmares when only Crying Child saw them? But then the logbook seems to contradict this as the Crying Child is talking to Cassidy through it. And again Scott has said the books aren't canon so despite seeming connected, you can't completely trust them. Also, I think 9:00 could just be showing where the Fredbear plushes are located (we see multiple in the house and he uses them as security cameras) as there are 5 dots in the bottom left corner when there are only 4 animatronics

[@tamaritamarileonardo394]

no dude ther are many flaws with this comment like i have no idea of what you are saying 1.like no it's werey clear that mike/michael is foxy bro becouse of step closer. 2.we know that in fnaf 4 that nightmare IS schadow freddy becouse in the fnaf 4 game files it calles nightmare: schadow freddy and no don't attempt saying that it is meant to be a place holder becouse if it's a place holder than why has scott not removed it like that deosn't make sens so yeah can't use that argument. 3.think about fnaf 4 is the same as fnaf 1 like in fnaf 1 chica enters the left door in fnaf 4 nightmare chica enters the left door in fnaf 1 bonnie enters the right door in fnaf 4 nightmare bonnie enters the right door and the fnaf 1 phone calls can be heard in fnaf 4 like some times a werd sound plays in fnaf 4 but if you play it backwards you can tell that deos are the fnaf 1 phone calls. so yeah hope you see this and see how mike is in fnaf 4 protagonist as the older bro ok.

[@NobodyUndefined]

@@tamaritamarileonardo394 Excuse me you're saying you have no idea what I'M saying? Get a fucking autocorrect instead of embarrassing yourself

[@tamaritamarileonardo394]

@@NobodyUndefined wow you act like a toxic person you don't have to flippe out plus i didn't even say that i hade no idea what you were saying i was just saying some arguments to yours so don't get angry about it jezz.

[@NobodyUndefined]

@@tamaritamarileonardo394 Bro you're replying to a 1 month old comment? Seriously get a life

[@tamaritamarileonardo394]

@@NobodyUndefined wow you are someone toxic alright never agian.

[@maxwellattacks6645]

I've been looking at many different videos about FNAF lore stuff recently. And it's interesting to see different takes on effectively the same ideas.

[@Kak37]

so far the sped up nightmare laugh sounds like Megatron from dotm

[@ginxio1945]

Ok question. How r the fnaf 2 animatronics haunted? Arent the souls in the parts and service room as withered the haunted ones?? I get it he killed 5, then 5 again. I thought it failed at one point tho? Where did the souls go after fnaf 2then? I only remember seeing 5 gravestones_ i rlly jist need a way more simplified explaination of the timelines of everything. What came first at what points in what years. How come nobody makes such a simle quick little post😭😭 i really wanna know the lore

[@icycappuccino]

reading the comment section is the equivalent of looking at cavemen

[@broschannel3982]

I 100% agree

[@broschannel3982]

I didn't have to watch it I just agree

[@Dr.spider1983]

Ok.. fine. You've convinced me. . . Mostly. I'm not entirely sure but still. I'm 50/50 on this theory. I just don't know. There's evidence for both.

[@quanashiab.9620]

That's why I believe both.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

Every piece of evidence that it’s bite victim works just as well and/or better if the player is Mike. We play as Mike and that’s a fact

[@Dr.spider1983]

@@quanashiab.9620 I think FNAF 4 is after midnight motorist and before the bite of 83 but also maybe later again after each night of FNAF 1 so mike and cc. But idk fully

[@Dr.spider1983]

@@ImpulseEvan37 it's not a fact. It's just a theory. And that's ok. There's evidence for both sides. But ur just arguing one side.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

It’s not a theory, it is a fact.

[@lsice6746]

I like you a lot your like matpat in a sense some times I believe you sometimes I dont keep it up

[@Gmex_ONE]

👍 great video! I’m lovin ur FNAF content‼️

[@darkhumour741]

I agree on the core principle of Michael having the FNAF 4 nightmares (not a theory, just straight up fact like you said) even if I disagree with other parts of the video... I don't think Bite Victim ever lived in the nightmare house - rather it's the place William and Michael moved following the Bite of 83. Just them and no-one else. Michael is who William was monitoring from the private room. He tortured him with animatronics as punishment for what he did to his brother. This later partially inspired Mike's nightmares.

[@ImpulseEvan37]

I doubt that but I guess it’s possible. But the bite victim still had to experience the nightmares because of the “do you have dreams line” so it wouldn’t make sense that it would have just been a coincidence that they had the same nightmares

[@darkhumour741]

@@ImpulseEvan37 Cassidy is asking *Michael* that question. BV is already dead, so the word choice of "do you HAVE dreams" wouldn't really fit him. Same goes for "was your favourite childhood toy a plastic purple telephone?" BV doesn't have the toy phone in his room during the minigames...and Cassidy specifically says "your childhood". The person she's talking to is now an adult - Mike

[@User_Here414]

@@darkhumour741 I agree with everything you said

[@quanashiab.9620]

@@darkhumour741 Yes

[@MBdynamoBostik]

I officially agree with you

[@Dab_it_Boymonoceros]

I think we play as both of them, i think the n.fredbear is for Michael while the other are for the bite victem

[@hyugalubbok7770]

Are you going to do theories, that point out more similiar points between the stitvhwraith and purple guy (michael after S.L, might be under Ennard-control before/while dismantling the animatronics?)

[@JoshuaSmith-sy3rg]

it’s not the bite victim of 83 it’s jeremy Fitzgerald from 87

[@Arcadendo]

canon

[@carsoncottrell6777]

Gotta love the walking dead edits

[@agonyremnanttrap6789]

Facts lol!

[@Sillybeanz]

literally nothing in fnaf is fact. it's all theory edit: we never see mikes room. i believe the gameplay room is just mikes room. he either has to go by plushtraps hall to get to his room or he's aware william will shed 2 hours off the night if he succeeds. i believe fnaf 4 is right before sister location and mike is returning to his old house to get to the bunker

[@cancelled148]

So do the nightmare animatronics actually kill you or do u just wake up??

[@abdocake]

its a disk illusion used on c.c and then i think Michael dreamed about it. So they don't die

[@Notvz]

I always thought regular fnaf 4 was cc and the holloween update is Michael

[@jxllobunzzz]

Halloween update isn’t canon

[@Notvz]

@@jxllobunzzz True but the characters do show up from time to time

[@tokyozkiii]

He cant be the protagonist bc it says “5 nights before the party” and stuff so basically he was having the nightmares before the party it has nothing to do with mike all he did was kill and scare him lmao

[@ImpulseEvan37]

That literally has nothing to do the with gameplay. The MINIGAMES are before the party. Minigames In the series always take place in the past, meaning the nights aren’t before the minigames, and they also can’t be between the minigames because the bite victim isn’t always even at home during the night. So no, that’s literally means nothing

[@tokyozkiii]

@@ImpulseEvan37 ur video means nothing lmao it’s obvious that Mike isn’t the protagonist

[@ImpulseEvan37]

That’s what I call *feigning ignorance*

[@tokyozkiii]

@@ImpulseEvan37 wdym lmao

[@ImpulseEvan37]

You’re flat out ignoring the evidence because “iTs oBvIOus” when the evidence itself shows that it is not

[@marsh1318]

theory: michael afton is gay because nightmare foxy is in the closet