In Class with Carr, Ep. 108: The Case for Reparations (Part 1)

Dr. Carr talks about his testimony this week at California's task force on reparations. He also started a multi-part discussion on the history of the reparations movement in the Americas and all that should be considered in discussing #Reparations. #InClasswithCarr #Knubia.
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[@sandraanderson8892]

Totally enjoyed Class as usual. But please please take your REST both of you. As you are both so integral to us and our continued education. Love you both

[@MrSolonolo]

....and Dr. Carr....When you lean back and are looking for a book (which is usually somewhere within your grasp).... and that chair squeaks? IT GIVES ME MY LIFE over here. Much love to you 😂🖤 !!!

[@Astromalcolm]

I love that! 😆 u know it's something very important that he is about to say or just said lmao

[@cavhaynes]

“Professor Hunter be dropping them bars…” -Dr. Carr 💯 All the time!

[@DaCarterHouse]

It's Class time Family let's get this Work! Professor Hunter and Dr Carr I love you both, and keep banging this Knowledge! 👑❤️🖤💚👑✊🏾

[@geraldinewarren9279]

I’m somewhat glad that this was short….you guys were feeding us meat none stop 🛑 now I need a glass of wine 🍷😂😂😂😂

[@ettaadams6194]

Yes I Agree! Thanks.

[@deborahwilliams2204]

Love it! Prof. Hunter - "Tired & inspired"✊🏽

[@belindaskinner7990]

THANK YOU PROFESSOR HUNTER FOR PUSHING THROUGH!🦾🦾🦾 HEAVY IS THE HEAD THAT WEARS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SELF TO BUILD THE MULTI FACED FAMILY OF BRICK LAYERS!!🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🦾🦾🦾🦾 P.S. STAY BEAUTIFUL AND RESTED🌹

[@MrElmCity]

TLDR: I’ve learned so much from both Dr. Carr and the ADOS Foundation. Although I think they both want redress for Black people in the form of reparations, there are understandable differences between their arguments and that’s okay. It just sucks that it feels as though both sides are taking jabs at the other instead of just disagreeing. Thank you for another very informative class. As someone who spends considerable time listening to both Dr. Carr and the ADOS Foundation leaders (Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore), I find it discouraging that there appears to be tension between them. I had been more squarely on the side of leading with lineage when making the case for reparations, though Dr. Carr’s insights reveal what I understand to be vulnerabilities with that stance. As I read in some of the comments, it seems that Prof Hunter agrees with the idea of both a U.S.-specific reparations case as well as an international one, which I think has merit. I see the difficulties in prioritizing lineage, particularly regarding how to effectively identify folks without precluding others based on whichever metrics people in power choose (which is a whole other thing to Dr. Carr’s point about them always changing the rules). I’m still trying to learn and my opinion is shifting, I think, for the better after hearing various perspectives. It doesn’t bother me so much that Dr. Carr and ADOS disagree, but it seems that both parties have not quite accurately represented some of the other’s arguments. For example, this is the second week in a row where Dr. Carr seemed to refer to Antonio Moore - there is little or no reference to his name, so I can only deduce from Tone’s testimony - and the ADOS Foundation as folks who say they won’t/don’t vote (gathering this from the “cut the check comment”). I’ve heard Yvette and Tone repeatedly say to vote Democratic down-ballot. While not voting for the top of the ticket is a strategy many won’t get behind for understandable reasons, that’s different than saying they say or instruct people not to vote at all. I Google’d some of their old Twitter exchanges and it seems there have been an issue since at least 2019. Dr. Carr continues to make clear that he at least understands where their passion is coming from, but he also follows up with comments that read as shady to me, which I can understand if folks are coming for him. I’m not on some ol’ “can’t we all just get along?” but in this instance, I do think that many viewers would benefit from both more context around the ostensible issues between each other as well as the extent to which either party would entertain a discussion (perhaps even a debate, though I’m wary of that because that may leave less space for the nuance in arguments and spaces where they agree). I think Yvette and Tone could learn from Dr. Carr. It also seems as though Dr. Carr is not respecting their intelligence at a high level. I typically defer to Dr. Carr’s interpretation on many things. I just think their arguments may not be as completely distinct as they seem, but because people aren’t using names, so following some (not all) of the differences seem a little more opaque. But yeah, Dr. Carr is one of the smartest people I’ve had the privilege to watch. This is tricky and I want us to support whichever actions get Black people the redress they deserve, domestically and globally. If you actually read off of this, then thanks. I definitely would’ve understood if you tapped out or didn’t even dive it at all 😂

[@tyronepetrie]

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[@dytsras]

This short episode had me shoutin like i was im church. This was a sermon today

[@p.w.7493]

Thank you, Prof. Hunter and Dr. Carr, for your HARD work!!👏🏾👏🏾 We appreciate the sacrifices you make and all the unknown things you do to keep us moving forward!! You're building week by week, what is necessary to enhance and uplift our people each time you're "In Class With Carr"!! Keep truckin' knowing that each time you 'drop a gem', it's being picked up and carried like fodder to be digested and shared with others and used for the edification of us all!! Enjoy your vacation! Meanwhile, we await and look forward to your return!! Btw, Prof. Hunter, your phrase "Tired yet Inspired" would be a great quote on a T-shirt/Coffee Mug!!🙏🏾💯

[@McKendrickFamily]

Great conversation! Grateful for the shout to the Honorable Mark E. Walker of the Northern District of Florida, and his courageous and brilliant rendering in the "League of Women Voters of Florida v. Lee, et. al." (S/N the threats are real for this UF Law Gator. He also ruled against Rick Scott and restored the voting rights of formerly incarcerated felons) His predecessor Honorable Stephan P. Mickle recently joined the ancestors last year and I'm pretty sure Judge Mickle would be proud,

[@vfree8305]

Reparations isn't about being a black person and all the harassments that come with that. For me, it's about 1866 and the gains America gathered with free slave labor. What civil suit do you know of that didn't draw a line in the sand?

[@victoriaalvin2446]

I'm late learning but Thank God I'm still here!! AMEN 🙏

[@KarenHunterShow]

Welcome back!

[@MrSolonolo]

Thank you Profs. Hunter and Carr- Speaking from across the pond (Poland),once again, on the topic of our common humanity. Let's not get it twisted. The world of commerce and finance, business, etc. has long endeavored to erase those (imaginary) boundaries of race, gender, class and nationality for it's own benefit- and at our expense. Here, I am suggesting that perhaps we do the same, and wipe the sleep out of our eyes, if we expect to meet these global challenges. Cannot thank you enough !!!

[@ohsosassy11]

Happy Birthday Queen Mother Hunter, hope you feel better, and home soon to enjoy your beautiful family 💖

[@FunandExciting]

@KarenHunter reparations for those of us in the US who descend from slavery here have a right to a claim against the US. Others from other countries who were enslaved by other countries should seek reputations from those countries. Sound Americans get reparations from Caricom, no we should not. We can as a whole do a different case to the UN for worldwide reparations to all who were enslaved of all races

[@KarenHunterShow]

No one is questioning nor DISAGREEING WITH THAT!

[@michellemiller9296]

I AM SO READY FOR CLASS.. MORNING 🌞 CLASSMATES.

[@josiahwalker5431]

Sending all love and prayers to your moms , Professor Karen..

[@KarenHunterShow]

thank you!

[@luckyandrews.566]

Reperations should be based on lineage. That's common sense and it shouldn't even be an argument. And those discussing Reperations should be foundational Blk Americans. Show me where you have Blk Americans involved in Caricom's reparations discussions And have we been invited? And have we sought to benefit from what they're doing there? The answer's no. And the answer's no here to But I wish everybody success in their endeavors.

[@KarenHunterShow]

of course...

[@michelefernandez6450]

ANd here breaks through Dr. cArr ,... The voice of reason ... Thank You.

[@cheeryhuang4424]

Oh, you both are important to me because you confirm my undergraduate studies " African American Humanities " UCB Class of 78. I'VE BEEN teaching Retired. Since 2004 I love you both. Thank You both Peace and Blessings

[@cavhaynes]

@1:01:30 - 1:01:54 “people took the mythology of nationalism, the invisible logic of nationalism and made it real with some guns and international support” -Dr. Carr 💯 Thank you, they made it up

[@BlackBeerdedNerd]

@cavett Haynes, Hey Brotha I see ya last name is the same is mine’s, do you mind me asking where you’re located and where your people are from originally?

[@cavhaynes]

@@BlackBeerdedNerd You didn’t mention where you were from

[@BlackBeerdedNerd]

@@cavhaynes I’m from Ny state but my roots are Mississippi and Louisiana. My family that has that same last name as yours are located in CA .

[@BlackBeerdedNerd]

I have some family in Texas but not many Haynes. I’m always interested where the rest of my people are when I see the last name. Take care brotha ✊🏿❤️🖤💚

[@cavhaynes]

@@BlackBeerdedNerd We are the Texas Haynes I’m in Vegas

[@lisadokes2655]

Why aren't African and African American scholars, professors, historians, etc. a part of California's "reparations study"? I learned so much, as ALWAYS, from your show. Y'all keep teaching and pushing!

[@abubakrsalim9622]

Absolutely Prof. Hunter and Dr. Carr we do not need to reinvent the wheel.

[@ettaadams6194]

Please lets continue the conversation. Please.

[@christopherjeremiah]

I'm glad to be here! ✊🏾

[@talib123ful]

It will be another 300 years + and this still will be NOT. Answer this question without going around the world and to the moon and back… in your most clearest mind, hopes and dreams, now that the Jamaicans are taking steps toward petitioning the British government for reparations for slavery, do you think as an descendant of the enslaved in America will you be invited to join into their petition?…I’ll wait.

[@dunellawesby6635]

Exquisite stew of ignorance 👏🏾👏🏾yes thank you Dr. Carr love your words

[@camarajordan1143]

Happy Birthday Karen Hunter 's mom. Thank you for have our Beloved Karen!

[@dduncan78]

Earth healing itself … spot on Dr Carr!

[@bobbywilsonfunfaithfamilymusic]

Dr. Carr & Dr Hunter good day and thanks for this informative Ep. 108. I am learning! shalom and kudos

[@KarenHunterShow]

Thank you, Bobby!

[@BlackBeerdedNerd]

This was deeply inspirational and thought provoking at the same time, and as always I have learned in class yet again. I love y’all Prof. Hunter and Dr. Carr, thank you for feeding us ✊🏿❤️🖤💚.

[@AD-wm5ju]

“Troll fest” Good one, Karen. So true!

[@josiahwalker5431]

I missed the LIVE!! I’m joining Knbia.

[@troychambers6253]

Yes! That's TRUE Brotherly Love & Sisterly Affection. #Community

[@SuperKenndog]

Karen with the mic drop right off the bat. Tired AND inspired. The life of being black in America

[@maryscott9627]

Happy birthday to your Mom, Karen ❤️🙏🏽

[@KarenHunterShow]

Thank you, Mary!

[@skylaindigoink2013]

Ha! “No! Not the flying monkeys!” (The Wiz) Lol!!!!

[@dunellawesby6635]

I wasn't able to tune in this morning on Knbia but able to do so now 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💙💜💙💜👍🏾😍

[@KarenHunterShow]

Welcome there #Knubia

[@josephsams642]

Thank you both very enjoyable!!!

[@golfbrother1]

Yess! Let's go Coach Staley! The truth back in the day and now!

[@calebroberts4760]

I appreciate the conversation. I tend to think that the creation of groups such as ADOS comes out of the need for self-identification. I think Black Americans, African Americans, etc are not distinguished enough to illustrate the specific history of descendants of enslaved people in the US. Having traveled to Ghana and Brazil, I see that as closely connected as we all are there are still differences that preclude me from just saying I'm African or part of the Diaspora. Self-identification is important to our understanding of ourselves even if initially the rhetoric is divisive, more informed spirits will prevail. In terms of reparations, I am uncertain any personal modifier is "incorruptible," skin color is as flimsy as lineage is to me. I prefer Dr. Darity's approach which uses a two-pronged approach for understanding our history in this country, including ADOS and long-term immigrants to the US. Lastly, I think focusing on building up where we are at is as critical as the global mission as a global vision. I think Nkrumah would have achieved his goal if his approach to a united Africa if tribalism/ individuality wasn't shunned for the need for unity against global powers. Although I agree in the long-term with Pan-Africanism, colonized and oppressed people will always seek to stand under the sun as individuals of their choosing before they ever can stand with others. I don't think that's a flaw of our people, I think it's our humanity and any broader Pan-African objective should be developed with that in mind. Just my two cents.

[@spikes2023]

“Sawubona” that is isiZulu meaning hello. Thank you Dr Carr and the woman I absolutely worship Dr Karen Hunter.

[@dunellawesby6635]

Yes Professor Hunter she retired at 100yrs. Love y'all 💜💙💜💙

[@geraldinewarren9279]

Happy birthday Mrs. Hunter….thank you for birthing Karen🎊🦋❤️🦋

[@KarenHunterShow]

Thank you, Geraldine!

[@whowearedocumentary2204]

Happy Birthday, Professor Hunter!!!!🎊🎉🎂🍨🍾🥂🎉🎊🎈

[@dunellawesby6635]

Amen Amen and Amen

[@jussjess2829]

It is truly incredible how complicated people make things when we talk about reparations for black folks. Wow it has not been this “complicated” for any other group, and yet the government found some way to pay up. Us been cutting checks for everybody in this world but somehow its to hard to figure out who gets one for reparations????? Give me a break.

[@dduncan78]

I hear you Karen this “SLAP” was about seeing you in Everyone Else! Excellent Observation

[@loveoverhate1357]

Happy birthday to your momz!✊🏿

[@kimberlyhodges217]

Blackness is a global category with local manifestations. 🔥🔥🔥

[@sugashy45]

I had a thought…while rejuvenating. The privileged skill of listening be it conversations, reading, sounds, smells, and visuals. All natural and organic are critically essential for manifestation of thoughtfulness, which then encourage the brain to question in a authentic manner. Listening requires intake for gathering personal achievement.

[@svhughes1]

So many truths & amens!

[@Effthefbi]

THEY want controversy and conflict of the FBA vs blacks- why is there a question of lineage vs. race, when it’s clear and concise- if your ancestor was a slave in the u.s., then, you deserve reparations- the other question is: how many slaves and how many generations of slavery- what if only one person of ancestry was a slave, vs generations of slaves of ancestry, regardless, we are owed our due reparations

[@DirtyBroke215]

Another one ✊🏽

[@diannejowers7857]

Hey 👋 guys I am tuned in try not to miss out can't wait to hear ur commentary as usual 😄 you both have been working extremely hard well this how guys do it. Make sure you both get ur rest peace and blessings 🙌 enjoy your weekend.

[@TB2Stressed]

Lot of studies, suits, still no reparations 😖

[@eustacerobinson1773]

Good Day Wonder Twins Activate the Knowledge 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💙

[@Niayolonda777]

Wonderful learning experience as usual!

[@lillianvazquez6672]

Gracias!!!! We shall not talk about Bruno but how we are going to grow and become empowered

[@ibibiotoiayinklee3480]

Happy bday Ms. Momma Hunter ❤️💚🖤

[@willamettennisbarnett3373]

Thank you once again

[@dytsras]

Praise the Lord saints! ✊🏾

[@geraldinewarren9279]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽yes. Put the flawed law on trial….👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@edkin2013]

Live your LIFE !!!

[@jefferystewart9252]

Good afternoon everyone in class.

[@KarenHunterShow]

Hey, Family!

[@geraldinewarren9279]

O my GOD…Karen spoke light 💡

[@Niayolonda777]

Happy Birthday to your Mom, Professor Hunter!

[@KarenHunterShow]

Thank you!

[@carloswalker221]

Great show

[@lamontvernon757]

Another great episode!

[@golfbrother1]

I made it!! Love y'all!

[@golfbrother1]

Blessed Earthday Queen Mother!

[@gwenmatthews4153]

Good morning family

[@williamraheemsmallwood8848]

Hotep! Great Class as usual! .

[@brandonagentforchange1734]

Good afternoon family

[@BJ_12]

Good Afternoon 🌞 🌞🌞 Friends

[@laron323]

Happy birthday to your dear mother. Wishing her health, wellness, love and abundant blessings. The ram horns of an Aries ain't no joke🐏

[@KarenHunterShow]

Thank you!

[@dunellawesby6635]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 who we are to each other

[@geraldinewarren9279]

Yes 🙌🏾

[@hakeemjones8268]

Wish you used names and direct quotes/sources so we could better follow the CA Reparations Bill.

[@schoolcoach1]

48:00ff Lineage by the following definition would be 100% inclusive: The meaning of LINEAGE is descent in a line from a common progenitor. How to use lineage in a sentence. However, if we focus on who was harmed economically, educationally because originally melanin was what determined who was harmed and who built generational monetary and real estate wealth.

[@parlayticket7175]

Hola Queen and King this student is ready for class 💕💕

[@TB2Stressed]

It’s not popular but I too enjoyed the natural fruits of the Pandemic…

[@Jove3321]

The problem we have is right there on Dr. Carr's shirt [30th ANNUAL] can't wait for a 60th annual. America is in its winter and they WILL run this country to the dregs till the wheels fall off. Pre-covid 2.6Mil black owned businesses, 2.5 only have ONE employee. The Need for Reparations is NOW !

[@geraldinewarren9279]

Good afternoon 🌞

[@scholarlytalkonlife4143]

Let’s talk CA. What has happened to California- migration. There are 50% fewer black folks than 30 years ago. Black students are systematically trapped and placed in community colleges. Policies also are trying to reform these colleges to be junior colleges and not community colleges, which is a reaction to the high number of Latinos who are now the dominant minority group who has more children who are seeking to attend college.

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

Our earth is the blessed mother and creator. I have faith in the planet and not humanity. I would for us to return to a simple life. Where we are working with nature and not against it. Thats why i preach leaving America and expanding our horizons

[@gregoryjones5763]

QUESTIONS? How has the statement; “America is not a racist country” claimed by President Biden and V.P. Harris negatively affected voter and civil (anti-race system) rights legislation? Was that outcome intentional or “accidental”?

[@cecilhayden585]

Alternatives: escapism, being homicidal manic, becoming recursive

[@golfbrother1]

Ramadan Mubarak!

[@cavhaynes]

@53:43 - 55:03 “…the plain language of the federal constitution does not preclude reparations, it is judge made law…interpretation of…the constitution that has done it” “An exquisite stew of ignorance and arrogance” -Dr Carr 💯 Absolutely agree with a global approach.

[@micheleholley1070]

Professor Karen, I was one of the people looking for a segment from you and Dr. Carr on the incident that happen at the Oscars. I was looking for a segment because I KNEW you and Dr. Carr would take the incident into the realm of the spirit and bring us up higher and knock a lot of ingrained responses to the stereo types. I unpacked a lot of feelings and I can see myself in what Elder Roland Martin said one bad decision from a Black man should not reflect badly upon us all so stop echoing White Supremacy stereotypes and then I can also see myself in the response to my brothers and Sisters who say "This is a bad reflection upon us as a people" Professor Karen they are using that narrative now when so many White faces have stated now they feel threaten and triggered and afraid to be on stage because Mr. Smith's action has now given license for those to feel embolden to approach the stage and use violence upon a comedian. So yes when one of us does something on a large platform it is weaponized against us collectively and used as an excuse to exclude us, that is a REAL place. Professor Karen I hope I don't sound anti-Black and 1920 in my thinking about the situation but these are my feelings. In one of my statements I even called Mr. Smith act against Mr. Rock a "Mr. Charlie" move, the entire act of slapping a Black man across the face, like some procurer of Black bodies. These are just my thoughts, I will listen to this segment multiple times to flush out my system of ingrain horrible programing.

[@mikegreen8938]

So what was Chris Rock's act when he sat on stage and let two white men ni**er this and ni**er that? What was his actions considered as he's been the mouthpiece for whites for years with his comedy 🤔

[@micheleholley1070]

@@mikegreen8938 Brother I stand by my comment. Chris Rock could not stop the two White comedians but Will Smith could control his own actions.

[@mikegreen8938]

@@micheleholley1070 You're full of it. Chris Rock opened the door for them to say what they did and he egged them on. He is who he is, a full bred 🦝

[@micheleholley1070]

@@mikegreen8938 Brother Mike, let's not fight. We are both entitled to walk this earth seeing life through a different lens. Have a blessed week my Brother.

[@jaymillymills]

3:47 Y'all come undefeated with the truth

[@brendawilson8573]

When and how do these others feel they are to get reparations too based on what they believe when our people was raped and dragged our blood into their event.

[@tomaferguson6859]

Hello family. I wouldn’t wanna be anywhere else on this beautiful day.

[@sharonavictoria7155]

Dr. Carr is 💯 % correct 😂

[@rashahamen2228]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!

[@nationwyde1]

Karen Hunter made no comments about the “Slap.” I suspected she would not. I applaud her for that!👍🏽

[@FunandExciting]

She did on her XM radio show

[@nationwyde1]

@@FunandExciting Oh. My mistake. Must have missed it.

[@KarenHunterShow]

I did...that's my space with my people, as is Knarrative/Knubia...KZbin is not.

[@supermike2164]

LINEAGE AND CURRENT CENSUS SELF IDENTIFICtion since 2010. Thats who gets it.

[@akaziaj]

Say that Professor Hunter.