Assisted Su*cide vs. Martyrdom

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[@pavlinakom]

Your blesaing! I cannot find the movie concearning St.Eustathios...Can you help me out, please?

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

When you visited our parish last week, I came to you and asked for help regarding depression and hopelessness in this toxic culture. We ran out of time, and I didn't want to take up your limited time as it was, but, glory to God, you released this video 1 week after we spoke! I thank you from the bottom of my heart, Father Josiah, for your wisdom on the topic of su*cide & hopelessness in a death-obsessed culture! God bless you, your family, & your parish, Father Josiah ❤

[@StCausesARuckus]

Have you tried the Jesus Prayer? For me, that was the game changer

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

@@StCausesARuckus I do. Sin is always crouching at the door. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, the sinner.

[@KyleLamberty1000]

Can pepole pray for my twin sister emma who passed away 8 years ago from cancer

[@closegripbenchpress489]

i'll add her to my prayers

[@SalGargini]

Yes

[@maroontide31]

Who’s pepole?

[@SalGargini]

@maroontide31 switch the "o" and the second "p". Do you get it yet? Let me know if you still need help.

[@justice8718]

Her fate was already decided. You have to move on.

[@ifronnin]

Suicide is the clearest form of what Kierkegaard called “The sickness into death.” It is despair incarnate.

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

It is the complete surrender to despair, to the devil.

[@mingus445_gaming]

Had I known kierkegaard wrote on this topic, I may have read that first instead of either/or

[@ifronnin]

@@mingus445_gaming Either/Or was also my introduction to Kierkegaard. It got me hooked on the rest of his work.

[@mingus445_gaming]

@@ifronnin I barely see him spoken about by anyone. He is an unappreciated genius

[@johnrockwell5834]

Judas truly damned himself when he died in despair without seeking the forgiveness of Christ.

[@I.am.a.sinner_]

Lord have mercy

[@elijahc.brooks3493]

I had suicidal thoughts when I was 15 due to heavy spiritual warfare. The Holy Spirit told my momma and I prayed to God, fast, read the Bible, and resisted those thoughts. Listen, I ain’t judging, but the temptation was so strong that I believe I was gonna go to hell. The reason why I believe this is because Jesus was tempted to throw himself down by Satan. Suicide is a true risk of going to hell, in my opinion. Your life is more important until you get ready to face eternal life with Jesus. Never kill yourself. Get help and never let someone help you kill yourself.

[@radmilamiljanic5977]

Very sadly, your northern neighbor, Canada, has established a system called MAID ( medical assistance in dying) and doctors often offer this option to the suffering people, even mentally challenged ones who are incapable of reasoning. Thousands and thousands have gone this way. We used this sad example in ethics classes to discuss with students. "Civilization" seems to be going backwards:(((

[@SparkyStarLPS]

Makes me sad as a Canadian

[@ukerkater]

It’s true evil that is packaged as compassion.

[@eshanroveran7850]

@@ukerkaterThey claim it’s a mercy. Yet now Canadian veterans are not receiving mental health care, they are now being told by doctors to literally “kill themselves” It is truly heart wrenching. It’s one thing to offer it as an option, but they are actively using it as an excuse to further ignore their veterans and even ENCOURAGE THEM to Kill themselves.

[@LourdesPerez-u8d]

When a woman very sad by the eternal comdenation of her husband who had comited suicide went to the cura of Ars, a french catholic priest, he told her that betwen the bridge (he jumped from it) and the river was the mercy of God

[@Di-Pi]

St. John Vianney❣️❤️🙏

[@LaxDux]

Whenever I feel alone I remember that Christ is with me. God bless ☦️♥️

[@jelenapetrovic5876]

Please, may I ask you father to make a video about Nemanja Majdanov who was banned for 5 months from judo competition because he made a sign of cross at the Paris Olymics? Thank you.

[@CleopaOrthodox]

Ένδοξη ορθοδοξία αιώνια ορθοδοξία η ορθόδοξη πίστη μας. ☦️☦️☦️

[@Gardens-of-Peace]

Yes, it is important to understand that death is a transition to eternity and a meeting with our Creator. It is difficult not to fear death, but it becomes easier to face it with a clear conscience. We must prepare for death throughout our lives by engaging in repentance, cultivating humility within ourselves, and praying to God. This preparation helps us approach our final moments with peace and hope, knowing that we have lived a life aligned with His will. By nurturing our spiritual lives and fostering a deep relationship with God, we can embrace the inevitability of death as a step towards eternal life with Him.

[@WORKOUTSOLUTIONS]

✝️CHRIST IS RISEN ☀️ ❤💪👩‍❤️‍👨🙏✝ GOD BE WITH US AGAINST EVIL AND TEMPTATIONS ✝🙏⛪️💍🕊

[@henryconner780]

I struggled with suicidal ideation, that's also when I was an atheist...go figure

[@strongmermaid4651]

I believe in God but struggle with self deleting

[@Alex462047]

Glory to God! Thank you, Father. This was very beneficial. Twenty years ago, before I became Orthodox, I had a long conversation with the wrong end of a loaded carbine. My world had come apart, and thank God it did. It was that moment of collapse, among others, that set me on the path from Protestantism to Orthodoxy. God never left me during that time, His Hand was everywhere as I weathered all that turbulence.

[@danielwatts796]

Thank you for the lovely sermon father, as a protestant you've made me think about praying for the dead and purgatory again. You have my sincere thanks

[@user-cw2gs4yk2n]

Lord have mercy

[@delphiniapickett2934]

It is decline of value of life . Life is God's ...Satan game to hurt the heart of God. God is not finish. He is victorious. Jesus paid it all. He is coming back.

[@Hunterhopefool]

My sons and I listen to your lectures on the PNP app all the time in the car and at home. Thank you for these resources father.

[@laceygreenwood]

Don't use a computerized cell & don't use or know how to use aps, and very thankful that I am free from that bondage.

[@remonedward6660]

Father, could you please explain what harm could happen from praying for those who committed sui*cide?

[@quindariousgooch88]

This world is truly fallen. God have mercy on us.

[@Ethan-ct7uk]

God bless

[@MarkSandford-s9b]

During my teens and twenties I struggled with suicidal ideation. One thing that has troubled me is the lack of empathy or understanding among the Orthodox for what suicidal persons go through. Although I am grateful for Orthodoxy, I am also grateful that when I struggled with suicidal feelings, I was surrounded with empathetic Protestant friends. It was they who saved me from suicide.

[@ethanfreeland2510]

It’s also a generational thing

[@uoc_icxc_nika]

We were shocked and deeply saddened to learn of this. It's difficult to understand how someone, made in the image of GOD, could make such a devastating choice. This is a direct path to hell and one of the gravest sins. Life is a precious gift from GOD, and we must remember that no matter how difficult our journey may become, there is always hope and salvation in GOD.

[@spiceboy162]

We do not know what people have on their mind. It is not an easy choice. Yes, it is result of a life without God but we do not know what people has lived at the background. Lastweek, I heard a man who killed himself after accepting Jesus and was trying to be Christian. May God have mercy.

[@metigee4267]

Amen what a message , 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 thanks you father

[@adriankuma1-1-1]

Hi father. Thank you so much for the reflections you done so far. May our Heavenly Father continue to grant you the ability to make many more. Hope you read my message. In 1 Samuel 31:4 we see that prophet Saul committed suicide. Do you believe our Heavenly Father forgave him later? Also asking this because unfortunately my bloodlines are marked with suicide. God be with you! ☦️ 🙏🏼

[@delphiniapickett2934]

With Jesus thrr eisneternals life without him is eternals dearh. Forever..

[@Ctownking206]

I too saw this in the news father thank you for speaking on it I was very concerned when I saw it Lord have mercy

[@delphiniapickett2934]

We are saints who are born again in Christ. Your bake written book of heaven.

[@emil3709]

That's an interesting distinction between those that commit suicide knowingly and those who are not in their right mind. I'd never thought of it like that before, but it makes sense. One time I suffered from a condition called peritonitis due to a botched surgery and the pain from that condition was so intense that you literally can think of nothing else but getting out of pain. I've had many other painful conditions such as abscesses and pancreatitis, but in my experience nothing comes close to that. Luckily, the ambulance arrived relatively quickly and gave me something that took the pain down a couple of notches, but that type of pain is not easy to bear and I could imagine someone making a rash decision just to end the pain in certain circumstances.

[@ValentinBrutusBura]

We're living the times of Ezekiel again, I can tell you that.

[@Athonite]

@1:13 A Carl Sagan quote emblazoned on it too, I find that interesting.

[@NFS0038]

Its a belief system, Fr was right to call it a cult

[@mediokay]

He wasn't the most spiritual of men, but I'm sure he would be disgusted by this if he saw it

[@RJStockton]

@@mediokay I promise you he would not be. Read the article he wrote with Ann Druyan for Parade about abortion, and you'll get a feel for the man.

[@catherinecarter8987]

How horrendous to put a slogan on the pod encouraging this terrible sin. Some people are so traumatised by their forthcoming trials within terminal illness, the devil comes in the form of an angel disguised in a cloak of scientific jargon to confuse and lead astray the suffering soul even further, dripping death slime from its vile lips to temporarily sooth the victim whilst the final step is taken to murder one of Gods children made in His image. I pray that Christs Second Coming is imminent.

[@SiegfireEmberfall]

I grayed prematurely. Heaven here I come!

[@AmirlovesJesus]

God bless you

[@RizzOhio-p4k]

That picture of the death machine thing made my brain play minecraft cave sounds in my head. It's so scary in a way I can't fathom.

[@danheneise]

The irony of Nitschke sounding a lot like Nietzsche isn't lost on me. Both have done tremendous damage to those suffering the despair of this secular age.

[@KulturKampf777]

Great show

[@RapunzelASMR]

I think Jesus would approve this for people in unbearable pain without help. I have had pain like that before, could not sleep or even often couldnt sit down. its like torture. They made me think at first it was chronic but it wasnt! But while I thought it was chornic I knew I in no way could live like that. The dread I felt... the sorrow. I wanted to live but I knew in no way could I live with such pain. So I understand people in that amount of chronic pain to choose that option. So I pray all who dont understand may get empathy for people going through horrific pain day in day out. In those cases their family wants their relief, they prefer that they would actually be dead vs seeing them in suffering every day without relief. Reminds me of this man also with horrific cluster headaches. Broke his heart he had to leave his family behind. He wanted to live! But the pain made it unbearable and his family understood. As he couldnt do anything for them either but to have them watch him in such pain every day.Death in that case, was a relief to him and them. There is a limit to the benefit pain can bring btw! Horiffic chronic pain has zero benefit if not resolved. When resolved it could serve as a help to help others manage and overcome. But without resolve it unables you to do anything but suffer. You cant be there for people, you cant be there for your family, you cant eat, you cant sleep.. its hell pretty much. For me the only thing it brought was great empathy for people in pain like that thats actually chronic. Thankfully for me it wasnt, because I would not have been able to live with that. Anyone who says otherwise never experienced pain on that level. BTW my pain was actually from an infected tooth nerve and it felt like TMJ or something in my jaw. It send stabbing down my face especially sitting or laying. So you could actually not sleep or even sit. Its like a torture for real. I had to stand up and walk often from pain and couldnt even find rest and I was exhausted. If this was chronic TMJ pain like this one jaw surgeon said, I would have opted to remove my jaw! This is how horrible the pain was and how I could not in any way survive with that. I was willing to actually loose half my face to have this pain stop.

[@StCausesARuckus]

@RapunzelASMR That's great, but what you think is not what matters here. What the BIble and church fathers taught is what matters. You or I are not the only people to have suffered pain in our lives. There are numerous teachings on pain and suffering, and many Saints and others endures tremendous amounts of pain more than you or I could fathom. Endured they did. Pain and suffering is a part of our salvation. That doesn't mean people don't sympathize and try to alleviate the suffering of others, but having the proper context of it all also alleviates and encourages perseverance.

[@RapunzelASMR]

@@StCausesARuckus because it went away their pain. WHen its chronic and there is no relief ever to be received, then you just cant live wsith that. Preserverance for what purpose? To just live in pain without end and ultimately it claiming your life anyway because you cant sleep or eat?

[@RizzOhio-p4k]

​@@RapunzelASMR In that extreme case, you have to ask your family and the people around you to pray. I will pray for you, don't worry.

[@RapunzelASMR]

@@RizzOhio-p4k thats true, the very very last resort is death when its impossible to live. But before that ofcourse one should come to God, to pray. Back then i was not Christian yet sadly. Thankfully I have not had this pain anymore :) I did not want to die tho I would have amputated my jaw. THats how desperate I felt to get rid of that pain.

[@Gibsonlussier]

Jesus would never approve of suicide, that’s a perversion of his character, the problem is you don’t know Jesus, that he literally has the power to free us from that suffering and heal our hearts. Jesus wants no one in hell and that’s exactly where suicide will take you, suffering to far worse suffering.

[@MatthewFloor]

Ephesians 2:8-9 (any works you do will not save you. Your pride will damn you) Jesus Christ gets all the glory

[@maryjaxheimer6050]

Dear Fr. Josiah….. do you have any info on Med Beds?? They sound scary as an Orthodox Christian. It’s not the topic of this video but I really need some info on them. 🙏✝️♥️

[@FeWolf]

This is a hard one for myself, I had 4 Brothers-In-Arms, take their own life, to this day it troubles me

[@Maria-js3lx]

I wish I could speak to you and have feedback, but I guess the lecture is best can do. Thank you.

[@72586jejones]

Life is hard, death is hard. Jesus knows this. He did not spare himself. For the Christian, the pain in death, the process of separation of soul from body, is another way we identify with Christ in His suffering. Expediting the days the Lord has for you is taking away an opportunity to identify with Christ and you also never know the use the Lord still has for you until your dying minute. We will regret this very much. Before you know it, they will be offering this "end of life care" to the elderly and menttill who still might have many days or years ahead od them. Heck, it might even be forced upon them. This is not good for himanity at all, especially men who have a higher suicide rate.

[@ot2292]

Hello Father, Catholic priest Father Chad Ripperger announced the consecration prayer Sept. 3 on the "U.S. Grace Force" podcast and urged everyone to recite the prayer daily through the Nov. 5 election. Do you think we Orthodox Christians, should do the same when the future of our country at stake? What prayer should we use for this occasion?

[@dnnnnnnnnnng]

Father as a pet owner can you make a video about pets, and love for them/how to get over the loss of a pet.. My pets are identical to a family member and i truly believe they have a soul like humans despite them not speaking like us.....as a orthodox Christian how can we properly heal from someone passing away, including our pets from a orthodox perspective.

[@dnnnnnnnnnng]

@@mrmooshman sorry you feel that way. Ill take the advice from a priest thank you. God bless

[@user-jn5mf5fg1z]

​@@mrmooshman Don't throw the term heretical around like that. There also is no official doctrine concerning the souls of animals.

[@asdasdwewq]

he already has a video about pets check out the old videos

[@AlexB-re4tn]

I have 6 cats now and my favorite passed in 2016. I heard some priest said to tell kids that our animals will be with us when we died . And other priest said that animal has not soul like people . They met be just has brain and spirit. The more I live on earth the more I love animal than people . I know I’m sinner . But people hearted me a lot . God have mercy on me!

[@dnnnnnnnnnng]

@@AlexB-re4tn I belive all living creatures on earth have souls they must-god created them,they cry,they have pain,they get hungry,happy,they love you.miss you-only a soul can do this.they know right from wrong.

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

get in the pod. teleport straight to hell. this is the most insane human era.

[@zeroface8337]

@@DiplodocusHippopotamus Considering who those people were, yeah, he probably would

[@areyoutheregoditsmedave]

@@DiplodocusHippopotamus if it even happened. i’m unconvinced.

[@RafaelTomasyoyo]

We can’t assume they go straight to hell!

[@ValentinBrutusBura]

It would be an error to think every Father and mother have the same expertise as Fr. Josiah.

[@MrWhite-fm4lj]

Father I have a question, what if ,in case of war, a soldier killers himself to avoid being taken prisoner (and tortured) by the enemy? Would that be a Mortal Sin? Would this case be considered an actual suicide? Obviously Suicide is a Mortal Sin I am not justifying it in anyway

[@lukajovanovic6437]

There are exceptions is would say

[@AlexB-re4tn]

I listen Russian professor of theology A.I Osipov and it was the same question and he said - no it will not be sin . I don’t remember details, but if you need I can sent you link and you put capture and translate in English. It was about war and sui”” if solder will be in dangerous to catches by enemy

[@MrWhite-fm4lj]

@@AlexB-re4tn no the name of the Professor is sufficient, thank you for having gotten back to me 😉

[@ElonMuskrat-my8jy]

Futurama predicted the future.

[@skylinefever]

When generic conservatives said Canada is wrong because it is state sponsored, I agreed. I then said "Bring on the private sector Futurama phone booth."

[@ElonMuskrat-my8jy]

@@skylinefever We're gonna do the non-aliving pods but it has to be done in the free market. The absolute state of conservatism.

[@skylinefever]

@@ElonMuskrat-my8jy I am certain the conservatives really just want no Futurama phone booths at all, but opposition to state enterprise is a uniting factor. I Just say Futurama private sector prone booths because individual lives are private property. They are not the property of cyberpunk corpos. The jobs need people as live meat robots.

[@LittleSage-u5n]

I agree that secularity and its principles have fostered nhilism, despair, and suicide as a byproduct. On the other hand, victims struggle with God and a type of father figure because of most teachings they receive from our system of education. In fact, people become atheists, most of the time, due to a serious amount of adversity in life. They were told that God would come, help, and aid them in their life, while, well, he clearly did not, or at least, not in the way they would have wanted it.

[@KantoKarp]

Could somebody point me to Chrysostom’s quote (23:15 in video) about gray hair being the visible witness to being one step closer to God? It is such a good quote, but can’t seem to find it. Thanks!

[@Magdalena-ow7gy]

The subtitle was different last evening when I tapped to watch and said it was a private video.. what's up with that? And it said something about love or martyrdom?? My brain could not conceive what in the world my eyes were beholding in just the words chosen to title the video... anyway, was curious whether anyone else noticed this...fixin to watch/listen now...

[@cwdgomez]

KZbin blocked the video. Typical KZbin. I’m sure they had to make some modification for KZbin to accept it.

[@minasoliman]

In St. Ignatius, he becomes a martyr to virtue and courage in the eyes of God, but in assisted suicide, you become a “martyr” (more like pseudo-martyr) to cowardice and ultimate vice.

[@frederickanderson1860]

Jesus prayed that his father would pass the cup to go through the ordeal of crucifixion,he was so stressed that blood came out his body sweat. So martyrdom is not the norm despite the Catholic. And orthodox churches. Like to pray to martyr's.

[@spooneythebadger]

Καταλαβαίνω σωστά ότι: το να τερματίζεις σκόπιμα τη ζωή σου δεν είναι αποδεκτό, αλλά το να τερματίζεις σκόπιμα τη ζωή σου για την πίστη είναι εξαιρετικό. Εάν αυτό είναι αλήθεια, φαίνεται ότι υπάρχει ένα υπουργείο εδώ (και όχι, δεν είμαι σαρκαστικός) για να βοηθήσει τους αυτοκτονικούς Χριστιανούς να τερματίσουν τη ζωή τους μέσω του μαρτυρίου και όχι της παραδοσιακής αυτοκτονίας.

[@chrisanthipsoinou2818]

Agreed! How can I end my life through martyrdom

[@spooneythebadger]

​@@chrisanthipsoinou2818 For a man who is not chosen for marriage or the priesthood but who loves God, this existence becomes a burden (as I imagine it did for St. Ignatius of Antioch); if St. Ignatius could goad the beasts to martyr him, why are we prohibited from following in his example? I'm not talking about husbands and fathers who have responsibilities to their families, I am talking about the Christians who this life has passed by and have nothing to look forward to. Why is this a taboo now, but something we glorify in Christians of the past?

[@isawamoose]

RW Chambers has entered the chat.

[@skylinefever]

Here is the problem. Switiching on actual belief in such wonderful things. I often do not have a problem with it for a sick reason. It was to mock something stupid my teachers told me from 1989 to 1994. They said Japan is 10 years in the future. They said we Americans should catch up. I joked "bring on seppuku."

[@michaellemmen]

But does anyone know how long purgatory is? Is it a sin to pray for someone if they are already in heaven? Or what if they are in hell?

[@mrmooshman]

Eastern Orthodox do not believe in purgatory

[@michaelblue8430]

I understand the impluse. This world is a dark and evil place and life seems completely meaningless and pointless. God seems completely absent or indifferent. Prayer makes absolutely no difference to anything, either on a personal level or the world at large, so why pray? The sooner we can get out of this world the better, God's going to destroy it anyway so nothing we do or achieve here matters.

[@erebos7093]

Can there be salvation for those who take their own life? I`m feeling for those in extreme cases, where people get so lost and see no way out (especially when they are young)

[@RapunzelASMR]

yes , God looks at their heart.

[@StCausesARuckus]

​@@RapunzelASMRWhat's your basis for saying that?

[@RapunzelASMR]

@@StCausesARuckus the bible

[@Shotzeethegamer]

​@@StCausesARuckusBecause it's up to God.

[@StCausesARuckus]

@@Shotzeethegamer Where in the Bible or any other church writings does God say that? As someone who lost 2 people close to me to suicide, I don't want to hear your thoughts or feelings on it. Where does He say that?

[@williefick]

What about someone that suffer from a disease that will kill him in the end and he do not want to waste money on treatments that is going to extend his life a few months? He do not want to burden his family by using money that they would need to live.

[@Roescoe]

Question I hope is answered: Is unplugging someone from a complicated machine barely keeping them alive suicide? Should we be keeping people alive in that situation, when they are more machine than man?

[@72586jejones]

It's not suicide because the sick person is not making the decision. Easy answer. If the machine is keeping someone alive, then they are realistically gone already. If the machine wasn't there, the person in question would be gone. Don't stress yourself over this one.

[@Roescoe]

Ah this went over the case where the woman, still fully capable, ended her life. This scenario of being "hospitalized" and completely reliant on various technologies is much more common.

[@Roescoe]

@@72586jejones Ah I didn't fully explain the scenario. Is it right that people request ahead of time to pull said plug? That is a future request to "kill" themselves in some sense.

[@Roescoe]

"It's not suicide because the sick person is not making the decision. " So if the person is alive but unable to do little more that indicate "yes" or "no" would them saying "yes" to pull the plug be their decision?

[@RizzOhio-p4k]

I believe that forced life support is evil. If the person is in such a state where they can't communicate or speak anymore, don't let them be stuck to a machine!

[@Euphrosynos-is-neat]

Hello Father I sincerely apologize in advance if I'm not asking this question correctly. I do not want to cause a scandal or upset anyone with my question, but for those of us who suffer with serious mental illness and suffer with contemplating suicide are there any programs or ways to volunteer for martyrdom, so that we can at least have an Orthodox funeral for when we pass? I dont want my death to be a sin, and like saint Ignatius I do not want to be a burden. I live in the USA so I dont really know of any martyrdom cases here. Would we have to ask our bishop if we can be a martyr? Again I'm sorry. I just don't know.

[@AlexB-re4tn]

Sorry I let myself answer to you… God gives life God takes life. Period. Nobody else can’t do it. My child in middle school now and girls have so much pressure nowadays and a lot of them have suici&& thoughts. It’s so scary me . I understood they are on puberty way and like one Russian writer said - when puberty started God and evil fight for this soul. ( hope you understand what I mean) Go work in hospice and you will see how people have a lot of pain and in worst moment of life so may be this stop you about thinking of death. With love , miss B

[@jawokenn8766]

but if Ignatius tells the romans to not save him, how is he not complicit in his own suicide, I do not accuse, I misunderstand, someone please help me

[@johnrockwell5834]

I agree.

[@thekatarnalchemist]

He was telling them not to attempt a jailbreak. In doing so he saved their lives.

[@booklicker]

I watched this video last night ? You uploaded it again lol?

[@Generic_username111]

I think KZbin removed it because the title was different. I tried to watch it last night and it was gone.

[@AlexanderNunn-g1r]

The purpose of pain is to get you to pull your hand out of hot water because it is physically damaging your hand in order to save your hand. Can't answer what now?

[@ffs6158]

Not all pain has purpose or is anything you can control and you're a fool if you think you can. Try being in pain everyday of your adult life while everyone waves it off like you did. This is what makes atheism factories.

[@AlexanderNunn-g1r]

@ffs6158 I never said all pain has some grandiose purpose, but all pain does indicate there's something wrong. It could be you dont exercise enough, a lasting injury, whatever. I was making a general statement. Christians don't stfu about how pain and suffering are good for your soul. I was Catholic for the first 23 years of my life, so believe me, I know.

[@CatherineAragon1536]

I am seriously thinking about subscribing to this channel even though I am not, and will never be Eastern Orthodox. I am a sedevacantist traditional Catholic. I like what you have to say about many things, Father, especially about birth control, family life, and mortality. I have been listening to your videos off and on for over a year. However, I cannot embrace Orthodoxy because I believe that the Catholic Church is the one true Church founded by Jesus Christ and that Peter was the first pope which was laid out in the gospel. Even though I don't believe that Jorge Bergoglio, a.k.a "pope" Francis, is a true leader of the Catholic Church because he is an apostate heretic who spouts all kinds of evil, I do believe in the papacy and in all of the doctrines of the Catholic Church as taught until 1962.

[@mrmooshman]

If you’re Catholic you have to believe the pope is the vicar of Christ no matter how awful of a person he is.

[@CatherineAragon1536]

@@mrmooshman No you don't. There was a period in history before when there were three men who laid claim to the papacy. No one could figure out who was the real pope. After it was finally sorted, the other two claimants were considered anti-popes. A pope must be a Catholic man in good standing with the Church. He must have a good moral character, and he must not have taken orders in the Jesuit order. He must also be orthodox in belief. It is true that there have been bad popes in history before, but none of them used their power to lead millions of souls to perdition through public and notorious heresy. Anti-popes exist and I believe that Jorge Bergoglio is one of those. I believe in the papacy, but I don't believe that the man inhabiting the throne of St. Peter even meets the criteria for being elected pope in the first place. Therefore, there is a necessary interregnum. Previous generations also saw periods of long interregnums. This is just one of them.

[@AlexB-re4tn]

Dear friend read church history . Orthodox the 1st traditional church and catholic split it in 1054. After this Martin Luther doesn’t like to pay for indulgence and started Protestant church and here we go now . Sorry it’s long story short . Better you read details about Theresa small and other catholic modern saints

[@viewtifuljacob]

What if someone is suffering from a disease such as schizophrenia driving them to do so? I feel as if that is the same as succumbing to a physical condition despite fighting for your life.

[@AlexB-re4tn]

They have excuse because they are sick. And this is reason for forgiveness as I understand right

[@johnrockwell5834]

If Judas hadn't perished. Then our Lord would have predicted his Salvation like Peter.

[@isaacbrooks1430]

This is so sad

[@jessgirl8292]

But do we think the Lord takes pity on the mentally afflicted? Because for that to be the next and only option you feel you have, you are clearly not mentally stable or thinking clearly.

[@organgrinder506]

It's true that many suicides are connected with mental illness. Depression and other mental illnesses are no joke, and we can only beg God to have mercy on anyone who's taken their own life while battling mental illness. However, have you read Anna Karenina (Tolstoy) or The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis? Both authors present characters who choose to end their own lives after a series of choices they make that leave them hating life itself. Anna Karenina and the unnamed young man from The Great Divorce are both idealists who turn their backs on conventional morality in favor of their own narcissistic desires. At first these desires seem noble, but they spiral out into something truly sick. One could even argue that they put themselves in hell before they went through with un-aliving themselves. I highly recommend both books--Anna Karenina is notoriously long, but The Great Divorce is a nice, quick read.

[@reneehouser2925]

The man filled with the legion that Jesus cast into the swine in Mtthew/Mark was naked in public & cutting himself. These are acts of demons- self harm and lude conduct. Self harm is the disobedient act of demons and blasphemes the Holy Spirit- The Great Comforter.

[@sargedannyboy]

The odd thing about your response is a lack of answer to the fatigued. I’m not sure of the full reason as to why that woman did what she did for. But I can tell you that from the antinatalist circles I’ve come across that people are tired. They are tired of toiling and the cycle nature of reproduction that only leads to more toil.( I am not an antinatalist by the way) While you can argue from orthodoxy, many people don’t see such justifications to keep going as a means of hope. Nor do I blame them. God may grant individuals the grace to suffer, but what can you truly justify the existence if that person is weary of existing. Life is to toil, Ecclesiastes states this. And how can you force others to toil, when their spirit is weary?

[@bobtim1008]

Life is crushing and full of suffering but as Christ who struggled to carry his cross before the crucifixion full of fatigue he still didn’t give up and carried the sins of the world on his back so must we carry our own cross

[@MeishasBrother]

We must all embrace the end, when we will be reunited with our Lord and Savior. But we are evil and degenerate if we seek out merciful and peaceful endings for ourselves. Right. We all need to have children, because God loves children. But then those children become adults, whom God sends to Hell if they don't believe. Right. We know from the Revelation of St. John that this world's fate is already decided....this world will pass away to give us a new Heaven and a new Earth. But we all need to keep breeding for the sake of "The Christian West," even though we know it will fall. And those our children have no right to end their own lives, no matter how bad it gets, even though they did not choose those lives. Right. I left Protestantism because it was a bunch of insane, self-justifying degeneracy. Orthodoxy is the same...just with more saints to pray to. Cheers!

[@DoNotImpose]

make a video on anti natalism

[@fonetones1]

You may want to rethink the name of the app

[@PeeTx777]

Father Josiah you might not be aware but you're doing wrong sign of the cross during blessing, your sign of cross is inverted

[@princezzpuffypants6287]

He is Orthodox, not Catholic... this is proper

[@Momonga32]

When the word spirit comes from your mouth your hand should be above the heart

[@PeeTx777]

@@princezzpuffypants6287 i know don't misunderstand me, but pay close attention..

[@WilliamSwartzendruber]

I'm pretty sure an Eastern Orthodox priest knows how to make the sign of the cross appropriate for his order of Christianity, in this case the original order of Christianity.

[@PeeTx777]

@@WilliamSwartzendruber look closer inverted "T" isn't sign of the Cross.. i think he's not doing this deliberately, just doing by mistake

[@ifronnin]

Honest question, why do you pray to the Saints if they haven’t gone directly into Heaven? Doesn’t this mean they are still “asleep?”

[@stormshadowctf]

If you understand that time is ultimately meaningless, this solves the problem.

[@Z0R0zeenee]

We live in a truly evil society

[@r90f]

I have a question about your treasure hunting video. Do the majority of women of generations Z and millennial actually have the ability to be good people? Do most of those women have appreciation for god and the existence of men or do most women believe us men are becoming unnecessary?

[@ffs6158]

No, go MGTOW and leave these poor women alone.

[@AlexanderNunn-g1r]

You are so wrong. If someone kills themselves, they have made their own choice; repentance and all. If someone takes another life, they've robbed that individual of every future choice they were supposed to have. You are insane if you think the former is a worse outcome than harming others.

[@eddardgreybeard]

They were all in love with dyin? Were they drinking from a fountain that was pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain?

[@mjphyil]

I don't understand when you say we should pray for the dead. Where in the Bible does it say to do this and that by doing this they reach Christ? Instead, I read passages like 2 Corinthians 5 and Luke 23 where the Bible says when we are absent from the body we are with Christ? Both Christ himself states this emphatically as does the Apostle Paul. Even Psalm 17 seems to indicate waking in the presence of God.

[@matthewgalicia1101]

@@mjphyil lol

[@mjphyil]

@@matthewgalicia1101 Such a constructive and helpful response. What a strong Christ follower you must be.

[@matthewgalicia1101]

@mjphyil Thank you brother. You seem very perceptive and wise.

[@yankaufmann9715]

It is in the tradition. Protestantism do not welcome the tradition. I don't understand why.

[@matthewgalicia1101]

@@yankaufmann9715 There is no tradition; only me and the Scriptures. That's pretty much it.

[@kariitzel6639]

That's assuming anyone around you cares about you. Some people are completely alone.

[@kirerunte1046]

That's why thr church exists

[@kariitzel6639]

@@kirerunte1046 Right. So meet someone that wants to die and tell them to go to church... But what about the people that were never told that before they died?

[@kirerunte1046]

@kariitzel6639 again that's a worldview problem and morality issue, if u Wana worship money and promiscuity and the world those are the results of that worldview, people have free will and they can freely choose truth over a lying and incoherent worldview

[@johnrockwell5834]

Jesus is always nearby even if you don't see him. You always have to option to reach out to him.

[@thisnameisnotfake517]

We are obsessed with life! This material plane is not ours to keep. Death is only transition.

[@campomambo]

My friend, the material is not destroyed and done away with. This world will be renewed and redeemed as much as the spiritual realms. We are not merely souls trapped inside a suit of flesh. Christ came to this world to redeem it as well as us. He took on a body because our bodies also need saving. St. Paul says, “For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.” (Romans 8:19-23)

[@Roescoe]

Tell me you're a Gnostic in 2 sentences without telling my you're a Gnostic.

[@davidgravy2007]

Inventors of evil things

[@philipcollins218]

Truly hilarious

[@Viricanus]

sas evlogi pater

[@stephanietheron6663]

soylent green movie come to reality

[@Maren33333]

Austrian and gas chamber hasn't been a good combination in the past

[@Neer-yy5nm]

Editing is a bit much on this one

[@Eman1900O]

God can allow or even give immense suffering but you can’t die in dignity and peacefully? Nah

[@emil3709]

Yes, but not all immense suffering is permanent and some people may do things rashly under immense suffering that they wouldn't do otherwise. I speak from experience because once I had peritonitis and the pain is truly unbearable and I was sweating so much from just trying to cope with the pain that the EMT could barely get an IV into my arm. Probably, if that had been allowed to go on for much longer without some sort of medication to take the pain down a notch, I could have done something that I would have regretted. Now, I am very thankful to God that I endured the pain which seemed like an eternity at the time and I have gone on to other things. I have seen cases of people in Canada applying for medically assisted suicide because they are in poverty or whatever, and in my book that's taking the easy way out and the selfish way out without giving a flip about who you may hurt by taking such action. The priest is right.

[@joshuas1729]

Your teaching on praying for the dead is not Biblical. Contrarily, Hebrews 9:27 even suggests that judgement happens immediately after death. Are you placing Christian tradition over the Bible? I've been on the fence about Orthodoxy for a while but after learning about how Orthodox Christians pray to the saints as well as Mary, and now learning that you also pray for the dead, I'm turned away from following this tradition. You also speak as if praying for the dead is such an obvious thing to do and protestants are fools for not adapting these corrupt traditions. This appears to be a blind spot for you, Mr. Trenham.

[@Phillip_Graves]

The Bible doesn't have every single word and detail from God...what you're referring to is the place you are put to wait for judgment..if it's sucks...well you're probably going to Hell....if you're with Jesus..then obviously Heaven.

[@StCausesARuckus]

@joshuas1729 😂🤦‍♀️ I remember how I was when I was Protestant. Angry, zealous, prideful, thinking I knew what I was talking about, trying to debate others, cornering Priests at functions haha. Those poor Priests! Sorry guys! I even had Evangelical teachers on the run with my blogs! I would spend 12 hours a day studying Scripture for 30 years! All that work and devotion to Luther, Calvin, Sola Scriptura! Only to find out I was wrong. How embarrassing. I made such a spectacle of myself all those years! Not having a clear view or knowledge of church history and early church fathers is your problem. Do that research before you try to debate. Believe me, it'll save you lots of repentance and embarrassment later.

[@mitch0990]

Then you have a problem. The only reason you have read Hebrews is because the Orthodox church included it in the NT canon. So if you submit to the authority of the Orthodox church regarding the NT canon, on what grounds can you contest the interpretation of the text?

[@StCausesARuckus]

@mitch0990 As my esteemed colleague in all this, mitch 😂 Don't forget to add that Luther removed books from the NT so Joshua is out here picking fights with guns (Scripture), but no bullets (missing books and church history). Luther wanted to remove James as well, but was stopped. I'd also like to add Luther was in talks with the Orthodox Patriarchs to reunite with the original church.

[@johnnyappleman7159]

Well i went down this rabbit hole of catholic adjacent fun for too long. I feel really dad sfter this video. To think you would deny a family funreal rights in the church is horrifying. It's not about the dead it's about the living. The church has changed enough things by now that this too can be abandoned. I don't think you going to ease a families suffering is equivelant to you standing over the corpse pointing at it screaming this is what God wants. I think there's a middle ground that could be found and i know a lot of the changes have to be verified agaibst a wide body of texts but genuinely make an excuse because the resson why families are so disrupted by a sucide at least in this one aspect is that they have someone they trust saying "your child hates you" "They are going to burn in hell" "Have fun explaining to your family the reason for your loved ones death since I won't be there tehee." Just really think about the harm you're facilitating. Being there to see someone's body into the ground is not the same as you handing out pistols at a mental health hospital.

[@ChickityChicken]

Tell it to Christ on judgement day. Good luck.

[@johnnyappleman7159]

@@ChickityChicken My dear brethren, let us recall the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, as written in the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 7, verses 1-5: Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce, you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. 'Why do you see the speck in your brother's eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is a beam in your own eye? You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. May we remember, dear brothers and sisters, that we are all sinners in need of God's mercy and forgiveness. Let us not judge one another, lest we be judged. Amen

[@ChickityChicken]

@@johnnyappleman7159 Again, i am a nobody. Convince Christ on judgement day. Quote scripture to Him. I have no power over your soul. It's not up to me.

[@ForceRecon112]

the unforgiveable sin is that which is against the holy spirit. Our bodies are the temple of the holy spirit. If we kill ourselves, we blaspheme against God.

[@EnigmacTheFirst]

​​@@johnnyappleman7159"Judge not lest ye be judged" is not an excuse to be an unrepentant sinner, for we are also called to have a righteous anger and pure hatred for sin and evils against God.

[@demkillerus]

This is just a gas chamber with a flashy look, Futurama predicted the future

[@geoffbuj1647]

If the church did it's job to give people ENCOURAGEMENT this wouldn't be a problem. Just another priest addicted to drama

[@kirerunte1046]

Encouragement doesn't afford a living in this world

[@geoffbuj1647]

@@kirerunte1046 why do so many people pay money to watch Jordan Peterson? Also a priest has a vow of poverty so that doesn't matter.

[@kirerunte1046]

@geoffbuj1647 people are fools and not everyone is a priest, people need jobs to pay for basics and housing

[@geoffbuj1647]

@@kirerunte1046 you're an NPC

[@kirerunte1046]

@geoffbuj1647 and u worship ur peadough rulers and ur worldview is deathcult, ur also an npc to ur incoherent worldview

[@yankaufmann9715]

Lord have mercy