In Memoriam. One Last Ride for Thunder Junction with a 12 Pack Commander Scramble!

[@TheMangakid1995]

@The Tangent 7:16. Rakdos was shown to have the power to alter his size at will all the way back in his first story appearance in the Dissension novel in 2006. The disparity in his size over the years isn't discontinuity or artist errors. It's a demonstration of this obscure power he has that's never been expressed mechanically. So yes, he did, in fact, "shrink back down" while he was hanging out on TJ

[@RedBobcatGames]

Okay! I stand fully corrected. Awesome. In the Dissension novel you say? I'll have to try and find it. Thanks

[@ButzPuff]

Actually, you might have succeeded if you stretch your rules a bit. Because you pulled at least 2 Nonbasics for Obeka with Eroded Canyon and Mirage Mesa which you could use for those last 2 card slots. Your rules did say that non-basics would replace basics. But look over the final deck, there's a few cards with double and even a triple color pips, so having few extra lands which actually be helpful with such limited pool of cards. Especially with the only ramp being Gold Pan. Not the ideal solution by your rules. BUT having 39 lands total, would let the deck be functionally legal for a Commander deck. Very interesting experiment and I hope you do more like it with future videos.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Thank you. And I'm a stickler for my own nonsense rules though haha. I have no idea what I'm going to make going into it, so I think a hard "37 Lands for each deck regardless of basic or not" rule will help with consistency. I do intend to make more of these in the future (if I can get my hands on more packs without going bankrupt of course)

[@JimFaindel]

@@RedBobcatGames I get how you feel, though going on a tangent here, I've found that most of my recent decks can work just fine with only 34 lands, sometimes as low as 31 plus double faced lands I usually end up casting as spells by the midgame. We're just flush with cheap enough dual land options nowadays, plus the free mulligan this format provides helps a ton to soften your first hand.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah totally, each deck is different. But like I say I think 37 lands as a target is a good number if I have to set one in stone before I know what it is I'm going to build. All these rules are arbitrary of course. But I'm hoping after a few more of these videos the rules will give it all a sense of cohesion

[@pablo.aranda95]

Missing only two cards makes it feel like it's destiny making room for the mandatory sol ring and arcane signet of every commander deck.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Haha, I didn't even think about that. Maybe I should change the rules of the game

[@otterfire4712]

With regards to Rakdos's inconsistent size, perhaps Rakdos grows with the amount of combat/violence in the area. When he was teaming with Gideon, it was in the midst of a full blown, all out war and this gives him significant power and size. When he's sticking around Oko in the card, there's no nearby combat so his size is diminished.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Some people have said in the comments he was always able to change size, but I've yet to fact check that

[@otterfire4712]

@@RedBobcatGames there is something to be said about just being able to change size, it's another for why/how the change happens.

[@RedBobcatGames]

I hope it's the case. I'll get off my soap box if so haha

[@bonaface]

uhhhh I believe in the story for this set the writer specifically says he doesn't fit places and that with no action going on...basically let's not carry water for sloppy wotc decisions that they try to explain post hoc.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oooh, a conflicting account. If I were less lazy I'd track the book down and find out for myself!

[@noahfriedrich4686]

I'd love to complain about the state of MTG but I'll instead point out the fantastic editing and animation of this channel. Incredible effort with interesting content. Great work!

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh, why thank you very much! I'm on my own doing this so that's really appriciated, thank you

[@RedBobcatGames]

Well. I say that but I suppose Mr Hands should get a credit too

[@dutssz]

4:32 It borders ridiculousness that in the same set they reduced viashinos to lizards and naga to snakes they also introduced yet another canidae in the form of Coyote as a separate creature type alongside Wolves, Dogs, Jackals, Foxes and Werewolves It's mind boggling that Ajani, a regular tiger, and a house cat are all cats, while dogs pretty much have 6 distinct typings that are so shit that the Tanukis that are taxonomically closer to foxes than to wolves are creature type Dog in Magic

[@RedBobcatGames]

PREACH!

[@PhoenicopterusR]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: WotC has a problem with arthropods for similar reasons. Centipedes, millipedes, solifuges, ticks, and mites are all grouped under Insect, when in reality centipedes and millipedes (and krotiqs by association) are "myriapods", and solifuges, mites, and ticks are all arachnids. All insects have 3 pairs of legs, that's 6 legs total. Haywire Mite (no Mite typing?), Skrelv (has Mite typing), and Thran Spider all have 6 legs and are decidedly insects rather than arachnids like their names would suggest; Twigwalker, Arcbound Stinger, Barbed Shocker, clickslither, Dimir Spybug, and maybe Golgari Longlegs all either have too many or too few legs to be considered insects; Dross Scorpion? the fella has 6 legs, not an arachnid, can't be a scorpion. Honestly, that's just scratching the surface because all our crustacean cards (crabs, lobsters, and trilobites) are also arthropods. So why are the Lobster people still using the Homarid type, but the Kraul, viashino, naga, and leonin all reduced to (insert respective animal) type? Make Homarids insects, WotC, you cowards!

[@RedBobcatGames]

This sentence "I've said it before, and I'll say it again: WotC has a problem with arthropods" was a delight to read. But you're onto something here. I might need to cover this in a video

[@RedBobcatGames]

@PhoenicopterusR Yeah, okay. You've got me thinking now. Mind if I maybe cover this at some point? And if I do, would you like me to post your comment in the video? I can blank out your name if you like?

[@PhoenicopterusR]

@RedBobcatGames Please do! I'd genuinely be interested in what you have to say. The typing quirks, double standards, and artistic interpretations are both amusing and frustrating, especially with the current simplification of humanoid creatures. And by all means, feel free to use the comment, I'm not exactly an expert, so some of that may be way off-base, but I believe the issue deserves some attention regardless of my claims. PS. I've just informed myself that there are some adult mites with fewer than 8 legs. They are still classified as arachnids, however. Good luck if you start this, it's quite a rabbit hole.

[@treeninja8924]

Missing by 2 isn’t the worst. I feel you could just add 2 basics. Not as bad as missing by 4-10, I would still consider that a W even if the cards don’t work w the commander

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, but I want to do this again for other sets, and I have no idea what I'm going to build going in, so I think being strict on the rules will prove for some interesting comparisons once I've done with a few other sets

[@treeninja8924]

Ah ok, thanks for elaborating!

[@RedBobcatGames]

No worries, thank you for commenting!

[@Breakstop]

I’m sick of all the meme cards and titles too. I don’t mind nods to older cards or mechanics like in MH3. To be honest, if the meme cards were more rare or if they were only 1 secret lair every once in a while, it’d be ok. But with so many meme cards in Secret Lairs and regular sets, it’s gone from amusing to tiring.

[@ButzPuff]

There used to be a place for them: Silver-Bordered 😢

[@RedBobcatGames]

The phrase I use is "Ground down". I feel ground down by them

[@marcoottina654]

I agree, but puns, wisdom-rich and/or terrifying flavors (text and/or art) were always present across the decades

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah of course, but there's a difference between present and constantly blatant on every other card. It's fine, and I like it in moderation. They just need to tone it down a pinch. I honestly think it's a result of spendind less time on each plane. The cards have to be quick references everyone gets because we're only here for 1 set

[@GeneralJerrard101]

I think the meme cards work in a meme set, like Outlaws of Thunder Junction.

[@Hex.Decimal]

I really love your videos bobcat I recommend your channel to everyone at my FNMs. We typically get between 10-25 people a week depending on if there are any tournaments going on (in the southern USA)

[@RedBobcatGames]

That's so cool, thank you very much. I really appriciate it

[@JervisGermane]

I love watching these videos. Even when it's something I wouldn't want to do myself, I still like that you come up with these different ideas and concepts to work with.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoy

[@malmadork]

It’s really weird because there’s only 4 other cards across OTJ, big score, and breaking news that have upkeep triggers, and only 2 of them can fit in Obeka’s colors. Sad that she was designed with very little interaction with the set at all.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, like these packs are for draft. This sort of implies they don't care about draft. Maybe even about Standard?

[@MsNosis]

love the idea of a limited pool of cards and building from there. I only have a single commander deck, but made my deck Kaldheim only, with every single card from Kaldheim. that way, I do not need to bother about the never ending stressful wave of new releases... my deck is not allowed anything outside of Kaldheim anyway!

[@RedBobcatGames]

The set or the plane? If they printed new cards featuring art from Kaldheim, would you include those in the pool?

[@MsNosis]

@@RedBobcatGames only cards with the same set symbol (an axe). so cards set in kaldheim but released in other sets, such as that phyrexian invasion thing, or possible modern or commander sets or un-sets or whatever may be, those are NOT included in my restriction. so I do not need to worry about checking out new sets at all... (which, btw, is why my score is so low on your quizzes. I really do not follow mtg anymore.. :) to each their own of course, but for me this strict condition really puts a cap on how much time and money I spend on looking up new sets and chasing new cards...

[@RedBobcatGames]

No no, I love it. My friends and I have a similar restriction but we do it for in universe art. We like having something to look forward to in new sets, as maybe we'll get one or two cards printed, without having to buy an entire box just to keep up. It's a balance, but I totally get where you're coming from too

[@jackiespaceman]

The Incredible Shrinking Rakdos

[@RedBobcatGames]

Pretty much

[@michaelturner2806]

Building from only 12 packs and getting close is pretty good, I think. From such limited selection I would've set a goal to be a 60 card limited commander deck. I'm used to seeing people build a 100 card commander deck using the whole 36 pack box.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah for sure. But that's why it's so fun! It's as much of a challenge and experiment as it is anything else in my eyes

[@PaulGaither]

1. i agree that Thunder Junction is not the best place to feature Obeka and her ability. 2. I am still glad to see an upkeep commander. I have been a fan of Paradox Haze since that card came out. However, I would rather that the Upkeep commander were in Bant colors.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, as a Commander I actually think she's cool. Plus it's not even a guarentee, you have to deal combat damage with her. Big fan

[@DKforever24]

I used to do something similar to this with a few buddies of mine on Tabletop Sim, where each player pre-chose our commanders and chose 3 sets (they could be different or the same). Then, each player would be given 3 randomly generated booster packs from each of the 12 sets and we had to build a legal commander deck with those cards. We called it chaos commander and it was always fun.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah that sounds cool as hell. Can you pick the same set multiple times to get more than 3 packs? I'd be a real nerd about it and pick someone like Jeleva, and then only want packs from Innistrad. Also, how did you handle partner commanders and D&D backgrounds? Can you pick two then?

[@DKforever24]

@@RedBobcatGames yes. We were actually encouraged to pick the same set multiple times as it would save time having to load and generate the sets and packs

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, that sounds amazing. I'd love that

[@constantanxietyattacks6878]

Incredible that you've managed to get a celebrity like Mr. Hands in this video. Fitting for a cowboy themed set, I suppose, not the crossover I'd expect though.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Different Mr. Hands, but I do worry about him sometimes to be honest

[@Cookiedive]

I like all the Red Bobcat's videos

[@ninjZ666]

I sometimes enjoy manually breathing

[@RedBobcatGames]

Thank you!

[@grandpretredesalpagas4665]

i think there is a chance that obeka was designed for the commander set but was rejected because the other options were better so instead of scraping the card or reflavoring it for a letter set they just put her in the main set

[@RedBobcatGames]

That's charitable. I suspect they probably just designed her for the standard packs and didn't really worry about the effect on Draft or Standard. But then I'm grumpy, so what do I know?

[@Jupiterbun-bunJetson]

I love the Holy Cow! idk any of the lore for otj but I imagine that all angels on that plane are cows.

[@RedBobcatGames]

That's sort of the issue for me, because there isn't really any law. Someone else pointed out in the comments the card could have been caleld "Divine Bovine" and you know what, I'd have been fine with that!

[@milosa2951]

11:05 Royal treatment already gives permanent ward 1, although it doesnt have +1/+1 counters synergy

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh wow, yeah I'd forgotten about that. The power creep is real

[@escivencain8653]

Me and my friend just got a brother's war box and a OTJ box to draft and kinda cube with and can say was quite fun

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh that's cool. I never played much Brother's war but I did like the look of it

[@Zarbon000]

Thunder Junction was a failure. A few power creeped cards, so players feel the need to buy them. Virtually no story. Uninspired mechanics.😔

[@RedBobcatGames]

And a weird setting to boot. As Magic's 100th expansion I was really disappointed

[@GunLut]

I love your Challenges, quite cool how close you came. If/When I get the chance to challenge myself to something similar in the future. So i don't see myself able to afford a Bosterbox atm but maybe a Bloomburrow-Bundle Challenge with 2 40 card typal Decks or something like it.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, I had fun but had I not been given this box for free i'd have never done it

[@neminem233]

Considering the fact that Wizards has wanted to do a Wild West set for a long time at this point, I don't think the set is all that bad. It didn't feel as one-note as Karlov manor (I think that set's actually pretty good, but I digress) I love the train designs too, the big serrated wheel in the center looks so otherworldly without seeming too stupid. I know this is more of a gameplay, but I do appreciate this set

[@RedBobcatGames]

I think I would have loved this set, if it were the third in a three set block. What it's lacking for me is setup and time to fully explain and explore the world. Everything's already conqured and built up by the time the set takes place. It's a brand new plane, and the first time we see the multiverse having to deal with the fact it's a multiverse. I'd like to have seen that play out instead of skipping ahead of it

[@neminem233]

@RedBobcatGames Agreed on that take, the plane itself is really cool, it just needed more time to showcase it. I've actually come around on the two-set blocks, especially for new planes. Where set one more focused on the plane and set two is more focused on the plot. Divides the work up while also keeping it concise. Like if set 1 was focused on the arrival of omenpaths, the creation of all of the factions, and introduced the concept of the vault, while set 2 was focused on Oko building his crew and breaking in, it would be much better

[@RedBobcatGames]

They say we can't have more than 1 set blocks because the sets end up being bad. I honestly can't see how telling a story across two sets could effect that. I think it's just a lame excuse because two set blocks require more than a skin deep look at a plane

[@neminem233]

@RedBobcatGames Agreed, the removal of 3 set blocks makes sense, there was always one set that was disappointing in some way. And you can keep the 1 set block whenever we return to a plane, because we don't need to be introduced again. But for brand new planes that we know nothing about, a slightly smaller introductory set would work wonders

[@marblecake1234]

How the mighty have fallen. The Red Bobcat making commander content. it is so over

[@Garlly34]

Isn’t commander the most popular mtg format?

[@marblecake1234]

@@Garlly34 Yes! but it also lame!

[@Garlly34]

@@marblecake1234 How so?

[@thediamondjames]

I like the fact that commander is still one of the versions of the game irl. Everything seems to be going 9nlone now and I like to collect the cards. Thank you red bobcat!

[@RedBobcatGames]

Wait... I was mighty?

[@LinksFan]

I’ve not played Magic since Mirrodin Beseiged but I really like your videos

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh why thank you very much

[@JimFaindel]

I had little success with sealed OTJ, but boy has standard been fun, which isn't something I've gotten to say often!

[@RedBobcatGames]

Really? That's interesting. I've dropped off with all the price increases lately, but had assumed the format would tank with the introduction of all the extra rares and mythics per pack

[@Matti_Mattsen]

Modern Horizons 3? What is this, a show about yesterdays set? Come on, Assassins Creed is coming out. Get the new set!!

[@RedBobcatGames]

Haha, right?

[@Ohkapi]

It's fun, thank you 😀😊

[@RedBobcatGames]

I'm glad you enjoyed!

[@MagusFlorren]

I hit the like button because the “slick shot” pun was gud 🙃

[@RedBobcatGames]

Haha, thank you

[@MrRayRockstar]

British old man yelling at clouds Hahahaha

[@RedBobcatGames]

Pretty much my exact vibe, yeah

[@MrRayRockstar]

@@RedBobcatGames more like ONLY vibe

[@RedBobcatGames]

Well yeah. That's what vibes are my dude

[@jackiespaceman]

rip gay cowboys, we hardly knew ye

[@RedBobcatGames]

To be honest if it was more gay I imagine the set would have been a lot more fun flavour wise

[@marshspy]

I will point out thunder junction (I’m a little biased bc this is my personal favorite set so I know a lot) explicitly does have floating rocks, ertha jo is very possible. The full art mountain confirms this unless I’m misreading it

[@RedBobcatGames]

You know what. I've seen that card so many times and I always put it down to artistic license. Like the rocks were literally only there to form the red mana symbol. However, your read that this is proof floating rocks exists is a good one and I'm much less annoyed at Ertha Jo now

[@marshspy]

@@RedBobcatGames all in a days work from one of 17 otj fans 🫡 (thank you for the kind response I quite enjoy your videos)

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh well thank you very much! That's also very kind of you to have said too!

[@Itachi45481]

Man I opened a few packs in the set and got 3 different versions of Obeka borderless normal and foil but I did have fun for this set my biggest grip was not getting more lore like I wanna know what the deal is with characters in the art just catching fire or turning into a demon it keeps me up cause I want the context

[@RedBobcatGames]

The lore has been WotC's biggest weakness for a while. Which is a shame, because it's basically what I'm here for

[@Itachi45481]

@@RedBobcatGames yeah

[@quentinB364]

I went to an OTJ prerelease event, and White/Green decks were really good for this set. Shame you didn't get a good commander.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah. White Green was the colour for the Mount mechanic I seem to remember. I did build a deck out of that in the last OTJ box opening vid I did

[@PaulGaither]

Side question: If you had a Thunder Junction commander starter, would you have opened anything worth slotting into your deck to improve it?

[@RedBobcatGames]

That Hydra, certainly!

[@partyballoonsnorwich2122]

Controversial? All depends on how you look at them! 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@RedBobcatGames]

Very true actually, fair play

[@jokerlover300]

If you’re looking for 63 unique cards and you were missing too, and those two could just be additional lens

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh for there's loads of things I could have done. I'm just trying to be strict so I can hold each set to the same standard and then compare them

[@patcanny7457]

Good video

[@RedBobcatGames]

Thank you, good comment

[@TheStartledNinja]

Maybe instead of a commander scramble try a brawl scramble?

[@RedBobcatGames]

Would certainly be easier

[@T4N7]

I mean, 39 lands isn't a death sentence, that's still a deck

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, for sure. But I want to be strict so when I do this again in the future I can compare it to other sets

[@V1C10US]

Is Commander Scramble a thing? Feels like buying (or in your case, receiving) a box of wrenches to dig a hole. You may have well just bought 4 precons for the same price.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, I totally wouldn't advise anyone else do this. This is just a fun "I got sent a free box, lets do a fun thing with it" you know, for science!

[@Jc27uhh4h4h4]

ankle biter is identical to moss viper

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, but my point was they're still printing cards like that in new sets which i'm pleased about

[@gwen9697]

rakdos just changes size based on vibes

[@RedBobcatGames]

I reckon that would make a good Antman movie

[@yurisei6732]

Technically Snakeskin Veil isn't strictly better - it's more susceptible to effects that remove counters. Incidentally, the 1-cost 1/1 deathtouch is a bit of a staple that appears often, it's a functional reprint of Moss Viper and Sedge Scorpion, amongst others.

[@RedBobcatGames]

I dunno. I think I'd argue that running the risk of having the counter removed will pay off more times than just having the effect vanish at the end of your turn. It may not be much, but I'd happily say it's still strictly better. And also you're not wrong about the 1/1. That was more a comparions between the two sets at the point

[@yurisei6732]

@@RedBobcatGames Oh yeah for sure. It's just a fun bit of pedantry, and I enjoy the way that MTG is a complex enough game that "permanent +1/+1" can very occasionally be less permanent than a temporary +1/+1.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Agreed

[@awesomeswifter1138]

I think I can give a good reason why Rakdos has shrunk. So in previous cards he was only on one plane, a plane where he is worshipped like a god, is a demon and has an entire cult named after him. You could say that the devotion people feel towards rakdos has made him bigger and more powerful over the years, but now, he's on, another plane where he's not worshipped or even known.

[@JustAChickn]

Back in the dissension novel in 2006, Rakdos was shown to have the power to alter his size, so nop

[@JustAChickn]

Fun theory tho

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah to be honestly I actually think this is sick. Makes him function like the gods from Theros

[@michaelturner2806]

I wanted to like Claim Jumper, I really did. I'm a rabbit enthusiast, and have been collecting all the cards with rabbits in the art. And they're all wildly different colors and playstyles, so I couldn't make a commander deck out of them. But the bad joke is just too much, and makes me not want to play Claim Jumper, even if it's a good card, and even if I am a bunny liker. Kwain was a little bit of a joke, in that he was part of a tortoise and hare reference duo. But he could stand on his own, had a bit of personality, and could speed up the game by letting everyone draw extra cards. Preston was also a bit of a joke, being a stage magician putting something into a hat, whereas usually it's magicians pulling a rabbit out of a hat. And the name is close to 'presto!', a magic word associated with stage magicians. Kezzerdrix and Vizzerdrix are the only other humanoid-ish rabbits in Magic until Bloomburrow, and they're monstrous wizard experiments. Fun fact: Vizzerdrix has never had a black border printing, even though it's had two different artworks. It's all white border.

[@RedBobcatGames]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who cares about this sort of thing

[@michaelturner2806]

@@RedBobcatGames I hadn't even seen Steer Clear until you pointed it out, and it's a fresh wound. I hope whoever at Wizards wanted to go silly has gotten it out of their system this set. I wouldn't mind a Bloomburrow sorcery that creates Rabbit Soldier creature tokens, but I don't want it named "Hare Raising Time".

[@RedBobcatGames]

Well if there is we know they've read your comment at least!

[@michaelturner2806]

... If there is a 1W Instant that makes two Rabbit Soldier creature tokens named "Hare Raising the Alarm", I will, after curling into a ball and crying, write someone a very very stern letter.

[@axelostlund2348]

There have been names of magic cards that are jokes or puns since the early days, I do not have anything against them. And homages to other things have always been in the game too. The Problem with Thunder junction for me, are not the jokes or homages, but the fact that the set is nearly nothing but jokes and homages.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Oh yeah, 100%. It's not the fact they exist. It's that at times it feels like they're all that exists!

[@tarkus1113]

Honestly….if you asked me personally on what I thought of this set as a whole….its a symphony of slush art, bad ideas and contradictions that in practice can’t be evaluated. The sad part is this is going to be more seen when we eventually do hit up Bloomburrow and Dudkmourne. Will see a mediocre premise but pushed cards…and because of the nonstop wave of products. It’s not letting us savor and even enjoy the set on its positives. Hell in some way I found some appreciation opening Karlov and for its faults….just shut up and Novice Inspector Jack. Where Thunder Junction I have the pure opposite reaction. Slush art galore and more faults showing….and I need me is a Slickshot Showoff and I’m good. And I agree about Ankle Biter too. Simple but effective.

[@RedBobcatGames]

I'm concerned for Bloomburrow and Duskmourn to be honest. I worry we won't be there long enough to actually get a decent story from the set. Like MH3 has only been out a week and we've already moved onto Assassin's Creed spoilers. No time to sit and enjoy what we have as a community

[@tarkus1113]

@@RedBobcatGames EXACTLY!!!! But I’m with ya there. We hitting up to an animalfed Middle Earth to 1980’s horror too soon. The path is too soon and savoring the moment of these recent sets needs to be first.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, I'm really not looking forward to trying to enjoy Bloomburrow while everyone's talking about the weird horror previews. It's just a feel bad

[@Surfer669]

It is funny you cringed 4 months ago at the Coyote and Roadrunner in-universe versions. In the future we might see Universe Beyond versions of Looney Tunes/Tiny Tunes or any of the Warner Bros IPs. This is in theory based on the My Little Pony and Spongebob IPs.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, it's all getting a bit weird in Magic lately

[@christopherb501]

18:25 I'm more weirded out that she's been contemporized, yet we STILL don't know where she's from. Oko at least has the excuse of being a recurring villain; what's _her_ deal?

[@RedBobcatGames]

Do you know what, I don't actually know. Usually when they bring out a commander product they'll tell us a little bit about the charatcers. I'm sure there's lore for her, but I don't know it

[@mathieubrebouillet714]

I'm sorry, I like the memes ;-) Also, you were not going to get stuff for Obeka, for she was put in the set to lure commanders players to buy it. It's a major problem for draft players.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, that really sucks for standard too. And I'm glad you like the memes. I want to like the memes, there's just so many of them!

[@mathieubrebouillet714]

@@RedBobcatGames True, but standard is basically non-existent currently, thanks to recent decisions.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yup. And yet they don't seem to be changing course either

[@mathieubrebouillet714]

@@RedBobcatGames their most recent attempts like making rotations longer only keep problematic cards longer sadly...

[@PaulGaither]

To be fair, 37 lands with little to no ramp is light, and coming up, "two card short" isn't quite fair. 39 lands would be fine. Espcially from lands you opened. At a second layer, and part of Magic, is that it is supposed to be a trading card game. How about making trades with the stuff you won't be using to improve the deck? I get the point of the activity, but it isn't quite fair how it ended.

[@RedBobcatGames]

No, but I'm planning to do this again in the future and so wanted to be strict in the methodology so I can compare this set against future sets

[@PaulGaither]

@@RedBobcatGames - I get it, and the entertainment factor, but we are also judging and comparing a set/product based on something it is not trying to do, nor ever tried to do.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Ohhh I don't know about that. I think if they're going to keep putting designed for commander cards into every product, then maybe we should start judging every product by how playable it is for Commander. But I feel this is a rant for another video haha

[@PaulGaither]

@@RedBobcatGames - I disagree in a few ways, and will try to keep it short for you time but... 1. "Designed for commander" to me has different subsets. 1a. No longer having cards like Serra Ascendant which say "As long as you have 30 or more life, ..." and instead say 10 more than / double your starting life total. 1b. Not having cards which just set life totals to 10 like the original Sorin and Magister Sphinx. 1c. cards that reference the command zone and commander colors. 2. I think people "cry and complain" about cards they have tagged as "designed for commander" when Magic has a long history of designing open cards that might have a future use or multiplayer use. They just now have a name for it. 3. I still don't see the HONEST [as opposed to meme / ish posting] criticism that - because Commander is a format that can influence card design - it is fair that the entire set and booster opening experience is a valid form of criticism for the commander experience. I know that I might over analyzing the foundation a fun video, but rather I think I am dissecting the logic behind the concept and approach/attitude. Do the draft boosters give a good draft experience? Do the collector's boosters give a good collecting experience? Do the set boosters allow you to fill out the set? I think you proved yes, with far fewer repeats, even at the common level, on a per pack basis. It isn't fun to spend $40 on 10 packs and walk away with 2x of the same mythic and 6x copies of a trash common and so forth. you video showed a wide array of rares, uncommons, and commons, as well as a decent spread of magic's five colors, multi-colored and artifacts. judging the booster packs for their intended purpose, they seemed quite successful.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Sure, and the general feedback seems to be that the draft experience is good too. Though, I don't think a job well done is enough to ignore a criticism (and while it's not a hill I'll die on) I think it's valid to keep an eye on what cards they print into which packs. I think that can tell us their general attitude towards a format. Look at the lack of Modern precons for Modern for instance. Like you say, there is nuance, but their job seemingly is to see how far they can push things and test how much they can get away with. In response our job, in my opinion, should be to take them to task for every mistake and draw a line in the sand around things we will and will not accept. I think ignoring draft and standard by printing cards not for those formats into packs for those formats is a red flag to keep an eye on

[@rahuhe4102]

What's the joke on Claim Jumper?

[@RedBobcatGames]

Rabbits are known for jumping

[@sixonethreee]

Good content. Magic sucks these days, but we're all too addicted to quit.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Pretty much haha

[@SwedeRacerDC]

That was fun. Magic is a joke now... Literally, they are making a lot of jokes and it's...cute. I guess they're trying to be cute with Loot and Bloomburrow...

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah. I don't mind it some of the time. But it's getting a bit much with how constant it is lately

[@thembosupremepizza1827]

i think you should have considered roxanne

[@RedBobcatGames]

As commander or just in general? Because in general I actually really like that card

[@ashemabahumat4173]

Wanted to play this standard cuz cowboys are cool, but never got to. Pull rates are pretty crap, the cost is grabage as hell, hadn't gotten around to ordering cards, and I dont like _how_ they tried to mix their own jank brand of fantasy with the old western aesthetic.

[@RedBobcatGames]

The price is the biggest issue for me to be fair. I haven't bought a box since they introduced Play Boosters honestly

[@ashemabahumat4173]

@@RedBobcatGames yea, that's perfectly reasonable. The pricing is just unacceptable, and its poorly justified on their part at every turn.

[@RedBobcatGames]

Agreed

[@stefanpaetrow6355]

i still dont like 14 card play booster. with 15 card draft booster it would have worked. ... or with Kellan, the Kid

[@RedBobcatGames]

Yeah, one less card a pack REALLY has an effect

[@TopMostFlavor]

People that don't like the theming need to have their testosterone checked. This set is awesome

[@RedBobcatGames]

Too much testosterone can be a problem in fairness