In Search of the Original Panchatantra

Panchatantra is one of the most influential texts of Ancient India. In this video, we look at how historians have tried to reconstruct the "original" Panchatantra, which is believed to have been lost.
Reference:-
1. Alphonso-Karakala, John. B., and JOHN B. ALPHONSO-KARKALA. “Facets Of Panchatantra.”
2. Brown, W. Norman. “The Pañcatantra in Modern Indian Folklore.”
3. Edgerton, Franklin. Panchatantra Reconstructed Vol.2, 1924.
4. Hertel, Johannes. The Panchatantra, a Collection of Ancient Hindu Tales in Its Oldest Recension, the Kashmirian, Entitled Tantrakhyayika; the Original Sanskrit Text
5. Pañcatantra: The Book of India’s Folk Wisdom, Translated by Patrick Olivelle
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[@D__Ujjwal]

Panchatantra is so unerrated man. people think panchatanra is some children's book but man when i read it, i was so amazed. it is literally niti shashtra like arhashahtra of chanakya. it tells ow a king/person should conduct his actions. it is reall undiscribable. ighly apreciate rading it from sanskrit

[@GIGADEV690]

Chanakya is a fake story

[@pikachue602]

Also vidur niti

[@testname2635]

Where to find the original panchatantra

[@Playerone1287]

It's not that deep It's just simple ethics moral book

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

@@testname2635 go for English translation Most close ones are By arthur w ryder and by patrick olivelle.

[@yugenderreddy7055]

The Greeks took these panchatantra to the western world. It was rewritten by Aseop as Asoep fables.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

No, Panchatantra didn't spread with the Greeks. First it travelled to Persia and from there to the West.

[@PhantumDelux-do2kf]

I@@JayVardhanSingh I had one question how does Arabs khow Indian languages

[@homomilleumbrae]

@@PhantumDelux-do2kf If i m not wrong about your line of thinking , are you asking this to know how persians understood panchtantra. If thats the case , then two things .First, Persians are not arabs . Second , they were translated by a persian called borzuya around early middle ages into persian . And a majority of arabs dont know indian languages , just like how a majority of indians dont know semetic or east asian languages .

[@user-vc6ly1oq3h]

​@@JayVardhanSingh Yeah but he is saying that many Greek texts were inspired by Panchtantra. (Like Fables in which stories are woven around Morals like in Panchtantra)

[@uprightwalkingape3483]

Other way around. Pyrrho’s translation is Shuniavad. Homer is in both Sanskrit epics. Greeks introduced murtiyan now Hindu are murti poojak lok. Modern India was culture less, un civilized when Alexander came to western part of subcontinent. Read Herodotus. It’s all there. Stop fooling yourself

[@homomilleumbrae]

Its funny , i discovered your channel today and i was reading about the panchtantra in the morning before that , such a coincidence Anyways , appreciate your videos

[@Himanshu_Khichar]

It's not a coincidence...you were possibly reading about Panchtantra on Google, and it must have stored your browsing content and recommended content on KZbin based on that, as you know KZbin is owned by Google.

[@rishikeshwagh]

Or maybe simply because this video came out on the same day and hence it showed up on his timeline

[@sahhaf1234]

At last, literary history... Thanks.. And, please more..

[@manjunathahindi5956]

11-12 A.D. Durgsinha who written in old kannada, Karnataka Panchatantra, who mentioned that, he inspired Vaasubhagbhat's Panchatantra.

[@sahhaf1234]

I think if you do a series on the literary history of india, it will have a lot of listeners.. As a starting point, there is the famous "A History of Indian Literature" by gonda..

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Yes, I've planned to do videos on this topic. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@maheshdocherla]

I really really really appreciate this video. Read Panchatantra & Jataka tales as a child but never could find the historical basis and the full context of such a great text. It is a MUST READ for ALL CHILDREN.

[@ranganathanv5365]

Thanks very well explained

[@wickeddemon8799]

Bhai you are doing pretty good work i hope more rajputs do proper research on preserving rajput history

[@AD-gg2sr]

Very different and unusual topic. And very interesting. Please make more videos on this kind of different topics.

[@lovendra8524]

Great video as always. Please do a video on how Jaya changed to Mahabharatha.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thanks for the suggestion, will try to do a video on it.

[@Snorlax108]

Watching this I wonder how interesting the life of these historians was. going to a completely different country, learning a different language and reconstructing ancient texts of their civilization

[@indrajeetverma92]

बिल्कुल सही कहा आपने पंचतंत्र के रचयिता का नाम बहुत आम आदमी की तरह लिया जाता है मगर पंचतंत्र को पढ़ने के बाद मालूम होता है कि ऐसा कितना कुछ है जो जो सीखने और जानने लायक है जो हमसे छूट गया है थैंक यू इतनी अच्छी वीडियो के लिए थैंक यू आचार्य विष्णु दत्त शर्मा पंचतंत्र लिखने के लिए

[@Playerone1287]

Tryst with history has done an excellent video on this

[@Playerone1287]

Great video!! Just like patliputra discovery video, i always wanted to know about these methodology and processes in constricting history, we don't find such videos on indian yt channels Btw it was a very easy process of finding common terms and using language skills, i thought kuch shandar logic ya technique lagi hogi

[@akk7791]

Thanks

[@shiprasiddhartha8931]

very informative video and also a very beautifully designed thumbnail

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thank you!

[@benefactor4309]

Bro one video on chronology of rig Vedic mandals

[@Parmeshwari-nb7tx]

Nice

[@akk7791]

Nice 👍

[@sudhakaranumanchi6728]

A nice professional presentation Jay ! It would have been nicer had you ( researched and ) spoken more about the original author of Panchatantra ! Panchatantra is the mother of all childrens' books all over the world today ! If properly taught and understood , Panchatantra increases the concentration, memory and rationality of children ( and adults )! Best wishes !

[@randomturd1415]

Very fascinating video bhai Wanted to ask, how similar is the hitopadesh to the panchtantra? Is it only inspired in story structure? Or is the plot also inspired from panchatantra ? Cuz I have only read the hitopadesh 😅

[@JayVardhanSingh]

It is inspired, in the sense that the stories are somewhat “similar”. But there are major differences. For example the name of the kings (for whose sons the text was composed) and his city, are different.

[@Bhondhu_Hiran]

Hii jay. i have a question what is called to the method of dating a text using the coins mentioned in it?

[@ThakurKunalSingh-wg5kp]

Good. Ram Ram.

[@user-cl9bd1tz3b]

Hey Jay Vardhan can you please make a video on Vedic Period explaining how it was decided that Vedic period pre-dates Buddhism and and how Vedic Sanskrit is older then classical Sanskrit what are the evidences which were used to establish that Vedic period is between 1,500 BCE-600 BCE

[@anaesthete5592]

Please make video on Gupta era plays

[@Bankai_India]

Bhai,can you make a video on Indian attire for both men and women since harrapan times covering influence of abrahmic idea of "modesty" on indian culture and the way forward?

[@Gentleman-026]

Bro please take one topic and detail it to it's roots When you are free

[@preritgoel581]

Can you please make videos on ancient and mediaeval history of South India, just like you have made for North India

[@Vocal0idSupermacy_gumimiku]

Gpod video! I have read the full panchtantra. It had some really good fables, but it also had verses on how 'bad' women are...

[@darshanbasaraiyya2173]

Pls make video on Five Hundred Lords of Ayyavole

[@deepalib7740]

Yes I gre up reading Amar Chitra Katha... .apart from Enid Blyton...Nancy drew books.....I read readers digest also....now I will get back to my first love ----reading

[@Fire-zg7nx]

Brother, please suggest some authentic history books.

[@definitelyclickbait7144]

Could you do a video on chaturanga or the original chess?

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Thanks for the suggestion. Will certainly do a video on it soon.

[@Lalalala22537]

Can you make a video on Bhagavad Gita recensions ?

[@venkateshu8715]

👍

[@Bengalimahishya]

The Panchatantra mentions that Chanakya composed the Arthashastra.

[@Dodlo32888]

Jay can you make a video who Archaeologist Revive arthashastra by kautilya like this. Video. Btw great work ❤

[@JayVardhanSingh]

I have done a podcast on Kautilya and his Arthashasta. You can watch it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWi8ZaOpgNCtq6c&ab_channel=HistoricallySpeaking

[@anonymous-cg4ot]

One question- why didn't Indians maintain historical accounts like the Chinese? India is as old as China, perhaps even more. How come they have such detailed accounts of their history of all periods and we don't?

[@Worldcitizen7777]

Probably the answer is Indians maintained history in documents like Chinese and Greeks for example Kalhan I'm 11th century wrote a book Rajatrangangi on Indian history and many other historical events were documented like the Muryan empire's lagecy was even remembed in Gupta period in Gupta period a text was written Mudrarakshas based on the story of Chandragupta Muryan So history was well documented but due to invasions 99% text and documents wiped out

[@user-vc6ly1oq3h]

Indians maintained historical documents but the writing style is quite different. Mostly every writer of ancient India woven the real history with philosophical teachings. The best example of this is Mudrarakshasha. But the problem is we are taught to adapt the British way of thinking.

[@parjanyashukla176]

Because moksha was the goal of life, not recording useless details of events. Simple answer.

[@PranavGogwekar]

Any Panchatantra influenced literature? Has Jataka Tales influenced Panchatantra? What about Aseop's Fables and other stories.

[@alpha-vs1fx]

Yes panchatantra influenced a lot of Arabic and Persian literature. Same with jataka tales.

[@amitexo]

If you want to pursue researching history and use it for your channel, consider using BCE, CE & BP for timeline like serious people do. I'm going to lose my mind if i ever hear anyone say "issa purva" one more time!

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

which is the closest accurate translation of panchtantra available today ? please reply if possible.

[@JayVardhanSingh]

Patrick Olivelle's translation of Panchantantra is based on Edgerton's recontruction, so you can read that.

[@ishaanrohmetra3447]

thnk you.@@JayVardhanSingh

[@agniswar3]

I was wondering, why some scholars doubt the existence of Vishnusharman when his name clearly appears within the text?

[@witchilich]

because he is not mentioned in all the versions

[@riturajdixit5]

What was the original language in which Panchtantra was written by Vishnu Sarman?

[@Mani-my8ob]

Sanskrit

[@Jayshreekrshn]

Bro give us some archeological sources of our gods🤝

[@GIGADEV690]

😂Fake stories hae grow up

[@Jayshreekrshn]

​@@GIGADEV690lillah 😂

[@Parmeshwari-nb7tx]

God ke evidence bhi milte hai??

[@sahilsingh6048]

No , he doesnt , no god is proven

[@Jayshreekrshn]

​@@Parmeshwari-nb7txhaa

[@shashanksingh1227]

These stories originated in Mesopotamia and then spread to the world."

[@nskg3448]

Yea sure 😂

[@alexisdespland4939]

what part of india invented curry.

[@anthhhess3477]

Curry was made in all parts of India going back to Indus valley civilization, so i don't think anyone can reach a conclusion who invented it first. Btw, its derived from the Tamil word kaṟi.

[@D__Ujjwal]

First we need to describe what is curry, just bunch of spices??

[@cryptonash16]

Curry came from the Tamil word karrii..why means burnt, black, fry, or boil. King Karikaalan (Burnt leg), Marrakarri (Vegetarian dish) are some of the words where the work Kari is used in context. Cloves, Curry leaves( karuvepla-black neem), Cinnamon, Turmeric, Pepper was grown and native to. The South India had extensive trade with South East Asia where Cloves, Star Anise, and Nutmeg came from. It is safe to say it came from South India, south Indians, or original IVC settlers.

[@anthhhess3477]

@@cryptonash16 South india =/= ivc. No scholarly opinion establishes that. Also, a word from a language doesn't mean the thing was invented by them too, these things work in complex ways.

[@cryptonash16]

@@anthhhess3477 The original aadi dravidian people are just the Kuravar, Irula and Paniya people who have the least influx of Anatolian, Iranian, Steppe, or R1a1 haplogroups. The rest migrated from the northern parts, presumably from the IVC, and Gangetic plains. The Eastern side of India was mostly inhabited by Austronesian Mundas. Most South Indians at present migrated down south from 600BCE onwards.

[@uprightwalkingape3483]

So Brahmins couldn’t keep recent text intact but we are supposed to believe they carried Veda all the way from 4000 years ago Quite funny

[@Himanshu_Khichar]

Brahmins passed down the Vedas to the future generations through the oral tradition, they were never written down like other texts like the Panchtantra. Learn some basic facts, dhimmi. Even your gora masters have not disputed the antiquity of the Vedas.

[@parjanyashukla176]

Who told you Vedas were texts?

[@uprightwalkingape3483]

@@parjanyashukla176 Cunningham didn’t find single Gurukul, teacher, person that could provide him full veda. Today’s Veda are indexed by English. They decided chronologies, shalok numbers. Hindus use English veda. It’s not bad idea to get sense of what you talking about before hand Mahabharat grew 30 times since times of Al Biruni. You can’t BS me

[@Himanshu_Khichar]

4:20 Obviously being a JNU history student, you had to use "subcontinent" to refer to Bharat.😂😂 Even all the history textbooks of NCERT, which are mostly written by JNU historians, use the word "subcontinent" to refer to the geography of Bharat. This is based on the idea that Bharat or India as a country came to existence in 1947 a product of British colonialism and there wasn't such thing as an Indian civilization, it's just a modern imposing of nationalist sentiments onto the past. That's why the word "subcontinent" which is used in Indian historical texts instead of "country" reflects that kind of objectivity or detachment from any sentimental association one might have when talking about India's past, a "subcontinent" is a mere geographical region without a unified culture in that sense, which actually Bharat was, and not a civilisational entity, according to JNU historians.

[@times2508]

Abe gadhe South Asia kahega tb mja aaega, indian subcontinent apne aap me kitna heavy term h tujhe pta bhi h.

[@witchilich]

you bhakts keep reading the same thing in facebook groups or some blogs, and keep getting offended by everything. the vedic sankalpa ritual literally has "Jambudvipe Bharatakhande Aryavartantargatabrahmavartasya or equivalent". And no, this was not imposed by some "leftist historian", no matter how much mental gymnastics you add or just lie. bharat in rigveda was just a tribe between ravi and beas river and was one of the 50 tribes of aryavarta, aka Kuru. Kuru was bharata. Mauryans used "Jambudvipa" in their inscription, not bharata. Kharavela used bharatvarsha as an entity. " And in the tenth year (he), following (the threefold policy) of chastisement, alliance and conciliation sends out an expedition against Bharatavasa (and) brings about the conquest of the land (or, country) (... lost ...) and obtains jewels and precious things of the (kings) attacked." only in the 2nd century CE, Vayu Puran did the definition of "bharata" expand. you illeterate sanghis read up strange things and attack other people calling them "anti-national". you use crude language and ask everyone to eat up your fantasies. this is not "your country".

[@Parmeshwari-nb7tx]

​​​​@@witchilichleftist sidhe personal attack pe kyun aa jate hai??kyun hume leftist historians ka diya narrative hi buy karna hai??kyun hum Meenakshi Jain,sitaram goel,Vikram sampath ka narrative buy nahi kar sakte??

[@witchilich]

@@Parmeshwari-nb7tx because you follow their logic like an andh bhakt. This is why you need to first attack them by calling the "leftist historian/Marxist/jnu", otherwise you can't validate yourself. Forget your "leftist historians", even mainstream historians like rc majumdar and dk Ganguly won't buy the "based on position of stars Vedas were written 10,000 years ago" nonsense. Unlike you, I mentioned the usage of Bharat in my comment. But you are blind and can't see beyond your faith. The OP comment, just like you started by attacking "JNU historian" and uses nationalism to attack everyone else to accept his statement blindly. None of you formulated any point. But I explained the usage of that word. None of you ever got any explanation for the nonsense propagated by Abhijit Chavda. You just beleived on faith and attacked mainstream historians and called them anti-national for not believing in your faith. You guys are the real anti-nationals.

[@witchilich]

for reference this channel itself is not even leftist and has a slight right bias. the issue is you sanghis just attack everyone as "jnu/left/marxist" for not blindly accepting the nonsense you peddle.

[@DeccanPS]

Any good text will always have a wide time period in Indian history😂 Ramayana, Mahabharata, Panchatantra, etc. Because for Indian distorian, nothing can be before 300-600 BCE. It's like blasphemous for these distorians to break the fake Nehruvian consensus (fake) of Buddhism predating all these texts. Such a honest historiography😂