Sindh before Islam | Religious Landscape of 6th & 7th Century Sindh

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Jay Vardhan Singh

Jay Vardhan Singh

2 ай бұрын

In this video, we will look at the religious landscape of Sindh before the Arab Conquest.
Reference:-
Lambrick, H.T., Sindh: Before the Muslim Conquest, 1973.
MacLean, Derryl., Religion and Society in Arab Sind, 1989.
Wink, André., Al-Hind, Vol I: Early Medieval India and the Expansion of Islam 7th-11th Centuries, 2024.
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@JayVardhanSingh
@JayVardhanSingh 2 ай бұрын
Many viewers have commented that I've not talked about Jainism in this video. The sources that I used for this video (mentioned in the description) don't talk about Jain's presence during this period. In this video, I have only covered the period of 6th and 7th century AD. Most of the evidence of Jain presence that we find in Sindh do not belong to this period. They are of a later date. If you know about any literary, epigraphical or archaeological evidence of Jain presence in this period i.e 6th and 7th century AD, please mention it below.
@jayantsingh667
@jayantsingh667 2 ай бұрын
Shramana itself is enough representation of Jainism. You really need to have a blind eye to think that there weren't much jains in sindh. Your credibility is questionable.
@jimmy-dz5xi
@jimmy-dz5xi 2 ай бұрын
Quite the opposite. Give us proof that jains didn't exist in sindh during that period. The texts you used, itself talk about Jainism.
@riteshpancholia3718
@riteshpancholia3718 2 ай бұрын
This video needs to be reported for spreading fake information. Misrepresentation of demographics and history.
@Priteshgada834
@Priteshgada834 2 ай бұрын
The sources talked about shramana. The shramana dharma is synonym to Jainism. Pasvanathian Jainism, which was orthodoxically carried forward by Mahavira, was named shramana dharma (path of saints).
@Chinmayash4586
@Chinmayash4586 2 ай бұрын
No point of showing this man facts. He knows the truth, he's just trying to twist it in a way to suite his anti-jain propoganda. Has JNU produced such hateful doctorates?
@kandarppatel5810
@kandarppatel5810 2 ай бұрын
Budd according to islam is also referred to as “Murti”/“linga”
@Eren._.Yeager_
@Eren._.Yeager_ 2 ай бұрын
Thats called "But" (बुत)
@ansh_u_r
@ansh_u_r Ай бұрын
Arabs didn't care about difference...all were but..
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 12 күн бұрын
Murti right but not linga
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this history 😊
@rahulmalhotra3870
@rahulmalhotra3870 2 ай бұрын
Noooo Somaniya is refered to Jainism. Somaniya means shramana (jainism).
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 12 күн бұрын
​@@aakashpurohit9328not , shraman are seekers, Jainism means Hinduism
@manthanpandya7501
@manthanpandya7501 2 ай бұрын
I would never ever imagine that this particular video of Sindh's pre Arabic religious landscape would become hottest and contentious topic and that too from perspective of Jainism😂!! Regardless, one thing is proven that human beings have prejudice and bias and you can't deal with it. No one is here to learn history but more into emotional things without any proofs or reference of historical piece of information 😂😅 Everyone is self-proclaimed scholar without degree 😊 On one hand historians don't know exactly real history and dynasties of pre Arab era, here people have declared that Shaiva kings used to destroy or convert thousands of Jain temples of ancient Sindh😂😂😂
@MrRahul6464
@MrRahul6464 2 ай бұрын
Majority of such comments are made by non jains. These are left loonies, brainwashed, hatred for Hinduism. It's just an excuse for them to attack Hinduism.
@muhammadmohsin1376
@muhammadmohsin1376 2 ай бұрын
brilliant work can you mention the books? And do more work on Sindh?
@raginisingh2251
@raginisingh2251 2 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@AD-gg2sr
@AD-gg2sr 2 ай бұрын
Very informative 👏 👌
@shubhamchaurasia8870
@shubhamchaurasia8870 2 ай бұрын
Very informative 👏
@yashvi4699
@yashvi4699 2 ай бұрын
The river sindhu has prominent importance in jaina scriptures as well. There are poems, tales about sindh in jain texts. Multan was a hub of parshwanathian jainism. It was also known as pashwanagri.
@bluecolour8889
@bluecolour8889 2 ай бұрын
But Prashwanath Tirthankar gained enlightenmemt in Mount Sammad of Jharkhand, how is he having any relation with sindh?
@jyotivyas9286
@jyotivyas9286 2 ай бұрын
Accha. Adinath is Lord Shiva afterall. ​@@hemishshah6666
@jata6423
@jata6423 2 ай бұрын
​@@jyotivyas9286no, adinatha was a human. Shiva worship began prior to birth of rishabha/adinatha whatever those folks call him. Shiva is oldest deity of humans. Adinatha/rishabha might be the second oldest. There's lot of mention about adinatha being propogator of ikvakshu dynasty, in Hindu texts. Those texts also state that it was after his son's name, that our country was named as bharata varsha. The scriptures also state that rishabha renounced the world and became saint, and followed shramana dharma.
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@jata6423 what do you mean by diety Isht devta or demigod 😅🤣 Who is param atma or param Atman or parmeshwar Do you even understand the concept of Nirvana or moksha in first place
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@hemishshah6666 maney shiv sukh aapo Aapo aapo Ney maharaj amney moksha sukh aapo Jina tatva or shiv tatva or sohum (during samayik and pratikaman prayers we speak) or tatva massi or sivo aham or aham brahmasi concept Rudra-like Divinity ! do thou produce amongst us, of high descent, a Great God, like Rishabha Deva, by becoming Arhan (Arihant), which is the epithet of the first World Teacher (The 1st Jain Tirthankara of the 2nd Phase of ongoing Kala-Chakra); let Him become the destroyer of the enemies (Jina) ! - Rig Veda, X.12.166 “Jin” means one who have achieved Jeet (Victory) over internal and eternal enemies including Karmas. They are the Enlightened Souls who have achieved Omniscience (Pure and complete knowledge - all knowing, all seeing, can observe past present and future of the entire universe; Keval Gyan). जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है।
@jainam8620
@jainam8620 2 ай бұрын
Sumati sect wasn't of Buddhists, it was followers of sumati+natha (jain tirthankara). Why are you misrepresenting shramana dharma as Buddhism?
@ravindraganage7562
@ravindraganage7562 2 ай бұрын
Buddhists are also Shraman even Buddha was called Shraman Gotama
@yashvi4699
@yashvi4699 2 ай бұрын
Have seen him many a times portraying jain sources as Buddhists
@yashvi4699
@yashvi4699 2 ай бұрын
​@@ravindraganage7562Jainism is the sole representation of sramana dharma.. Buddhism is mixture of sramana and other philosophies. Pure sramana dharma is openly accepted to be none other than Jainism. Shramana dharma is synonym of Jainism.
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
​​@@ravindraganage7562nope. Sramana refers to jains and ajivikas.
@Amish2405
@Amish2405 2 ай бұрын
Sumati sect is a jaina sect. They worshipped sumati natha. It's like saying​ Vishnu sect wasn't a hindu sect. @@ravindraganage7562
@tushargoyal554
@tushargoyal554 2 ай бұрын
Very nicely explained, the statue of Lord Brahma which you've shown is a very exquisite and highly perfected example of Gupta Art. It is divine. Regarding Jains commenting about the word 'sramana' is indicative of Jains - No, it is not the case. The 'sramana' term is used to refer to the non-Vedic religious traditions particularly Buddhism and Jainism. I believe the video has reached to some Jain right-wing group which has circulated it to many people. These people want to derail the academic history with their own imaginations. We shouldn't pay attention to their allegations. Om Siddham! May Lord Maheshwar be gracious on us towards the path of knowledge.
@Mitchybianca
@Mitchybianca 2 ай бұрын
Buddhism can not be considered as a sramana tradition. It abandoned the path of austerity and fasting. Sramana has simple meaning - austerity. Ajivikas were bigger followers of penance than jainas themselves. But later merged into Jainism. And about right wing group of Jains, I have been watching Jay's content since 7 months now. I'm not even an Indian. Just had visited India to do research into old religions.
@sagarkashyap6777
@sagarkashyap6777 2 ай бұрын
Buddhism is as much as a sramana religion, as much as shaivism is a brahamanical religion.
@mogambo4565
@mogambo4565 2 ай бұрын
​@@hemishshah6666 who said fasting is the core belief of being shramana? That could be one sect of shramanas. It is you who are blindfolded by your faith.
@pikachue602
@pikachue602 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mitchybianca nah! I think they're not. Sramanas means those who listens from their gurus .. This can be categorically used to describe both . Infact all indic religions but most importantly for that time period yes the buddhists and Jain's are more or less referred as such
@pikachue602
@pikachue602 2 ай бұрын
​@@sagarkashyap6777 brahminical? What's brahminical?😅 Don't go around putting your propagandists words...
@darshanbasaraiyya2173
@darshanbasaraiyya2173 2 ай бұрын
Pls make video on Five Hundred Lords of Ayyavole
@jannat2236
@jannat2236 2 ай бұрын
I'm from sindh, and till date we have a place here known as "jaino ka ghad" which means fort of jains. I hear tales from my khala, on how jains were in majority in sindh. Jain businessmen carried out the majority of business in sindh during old times. I'm not sure if your information is authentic or not.
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Read the pinned comment.
@user-uo1tk9ig5l
@user-uo1tk9ig5l 2 ай бұрын
Well possibility of that is very less . Jains were only merchants . Even today whatever Jains live in India are all from Business communities .
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@user-uo1tk9ig5l do you know anything about JAINISM history or ancestry Do you know anything from where bharatvarsh itself named Do you even know that Jain tirthankar mentioned in Vedas, puranas and even Buddhists literature
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@yashagrawal88 just don't distort the history Mr Aggrawal Jainism is jina dharm or saman dharma or shraman dharma जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है। 24 jinas or arihant or arhaat or Jain tirthankaras
@user-uo1tk9ig5l
@user-uo1tk9ig5l 2 ай бұрын
@@paulomi9351 even Nanda kings are mentioned in puranas , so what ?? And there is no mention of Jains in vedas . And how is this even possible ? Vedas were of much earlier time
@samchalohana4423
@samchalohana4423 2 ай бұрын
What was religion of Kutch of Dholaveeea
@abhyudayakrishna
@abhyudayakrishna 2 ай бұрын
Still jains are there in india with a surname of somaniya. I'm not sure on how does jay come upto a conclusion that somaniya means buddhists.
@sarthakyadava
@sarthakyadava 2 ай бұрын
maybe cuz shaman was used for both jains n buddhists
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@sarthakyadava that is where all the problems occured and Neo Buddhists captured jaina sites and stupas Buddh is title for enlightenment and no proof of any Lumbini prince or sakya Prince Siddharth starting any religion called Buddhism in first place जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है।
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@sarthakyadava not only that even before Mauryan empire came into existence When Alexander burnt persepolis and attacked today's Punjab Pakistan area, magadh was ruled by Nanda Dynasty rulers who were Jainism followers Rather Nanda ruler brought Kalinga jina idol which was later retrieved back by king kharvela of Kharbela or mahameghvahan after fall of maurya Dynasty rulers The Brahmi script inscription found in ancient Jain caves of udaygiri and khandagiri built by king kharvela started with Jain namokar mantra or navkar Mantra inscribed in Brahmi lipi Jainism is way ancient dharma and true saman dharma or shraman dharma of karma , dharma and moksha or Nirvana from karmic bandhan or knot 🪢 of samsaar from time immemorial
@sarthakyadava
@sarthakyadava 2 ай бұрын
@@paulomi9351 i know everything about kharvela n nandas you talked about but what does it relate to sindh region ? And saying no proof of a sakyan prince Siddharth gautam buddha is crazy level of ignorance dude 😭🙏🏻 , even Buddha's bones have survived till today , even before ashoka the buddhist religion had become popular in UP n bihar region bcz buddha had preached a lot in that region , buddha even had discussions with jainas , brahmins and many other sects and magadhan kings use to love and respect him
@sarthakyadava
@sarthakyadava 2 ай бұрын
@@paulomi9351 don't relate the current neo buddhists to ancient buddhists , it was the prime religion of india for centuries, it didn't came out from thin air dawg 😂
@lalit8076
@lalit8076 2 ай бұрын
You have vast knowledge.
@edisonbrain
@edisonbrain 2 ай бұрын
Love this series as a Sindhi
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 ай бұрын
lol jain pn oak types in the comments
@MURTAZAY
@MURTAZAY 2 ай бұрын
Hello sir! My suggestion to you is to answer the doubtful questions which students ask you in your comment section.
@syedmaricar9946
@syedmaricar9946 Ай бұрын
Talking about religion relationship of people in coastal area's ,I find traders spread their beliefs people took to what they liked unlike leadership of today depending on pressuring people to their ways .
@chittodnaresh9568
@chittodnaresh9568 2 ай бұрын
@JayVardhanSingh If you want literary evidence, please read any Jain texts written in Pali. Jain texts never use the term 'Jain' to refer to jainism, they always use the term 'Sramana' to refer to jainism literally every time. ALSO, if u know any Urdu, or Arabic for that matter, the term 'budd' almost universally refers to any kind 'idol' of a deity and is used in a derogatory manner to describe deity-worshippers. You can ask any Urdu speakers for that it is general knowledge for them. Please check once.
@jyotivyas9286
@jyotivyas9286 2 ай бұрын
Don't you worship idol of mahaveer bhagwaan😅. Than.its all 7 yearsback that this govt kept you I minorities. Division of society.
@bluecolour8889
@bluecolour8889 2 ай бұрын
Dear friend Jainism is also related to yogic sect, which is also believed in by Hindus : Yogic sect has practices like Kundalini (by fasting and meditation) which can help you gain moksha or knowledge about your existence, universe. In Hinduism too, 'Moksha' is considered above the cycle of birth and death and for getting moksha, one does needs to understand others sorrows more than theirs and leave materialistic things in this world, like s##, even food, and meditate on 'OM', and do dhyan (focusing on inner self).So, that means Hinduism shares similarity with Jainism and Buddhism as well. If one does no bad karma, their soul go to swarg loka and stays there, then again takes good re-birth in some world. Or goes to Nark Loka, stays there then takes re-birth in a bad condition in some other world. One who get's Moksha, they become part of 'Adi apar shakti' after there death. They don't become a part of creation as a energy existing in this universe. All these things, Swarg-Nark, Moksha mentioned in 'Garud Puran' , 'Upnishad'.
@PranavGogwekar
@PranavGogwekar 2 ай бұрын
Was the Balochistan part of Sindh back then? Was it a Scythian stronghold?
@tushargoyal554
@tushargoyal554 2 ай бұрын
Some parts of eastern Balochistan were ruled by Sindhis it seems.
@deependerkadian5524
@deependerkadian5524 2 ай бұрын
Eastern and southern Balochistan was under sindh
@anushaiyer2487
@anushaiyer2487 2 ай бұрын
What about malabaar before islam
@manishk7390
@manishk7390 2 ай бұрын
Want to know about Afghanistan before Islam
@bjpprathvirajmandalajmer2161
@bjpprathvirajmandalajmer2161 2 ай бұрын
Muslim Still call every stachue budh,
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
Very good Jay You have so conveniently tried to hide the real demographics of sindh. You don't talk about jains, which were dominant in sindh. How can you literally call buddhists as shramanas? Jainas and ajivikas were the only sramanas. Ajivikas was a sect of jainism. You didn't mention about pashwanagri, a famous name of multan because it had maximum amount of temples of pashwanatha (23rd tirthankara of jainism) How conveniently you're distorting our heritage and history.
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Ajivika was a sect of Jainism?😂
@Mitchybianca
@Mitchybianca 2 ай бұрын
​@@yashagrawal88indeed, ajivikas were followers of makkali ghoshala. Makkali ghoshala was disciple of Mahavira, who had changed paths due to a philosophical disagreement. But he also had remerged with jaina school of thought later on. Most of ajivikas didn't remain as seperate sect, because they were never to begin with. They were bunch of protestors against Mahavira's few thoughts. They never left pasvanthian ideology. Hence, they were sramanic unlike buddha. Buddha created his own path by establishing Buddhism. Anyone who follows path of pasvanatha, is sramana.
@Mitchybianca
@Mitchybianca 2 ай бұрын
​@@yashagrawal88are you asking the same question over and over?
@user-uo1tk9ig5l
@user-uo1tk9ig5l 2 ай бұрын
Ajivika was a sect of jainism . This is enough to believe your statement
@kanishkkumar5431
@kanishkkumar5431 2 ай бұрын
@@Mitchybianca budhhism is sraman too......most famous one
@Vonos09
@Vonos09 2 ай бұрын
Jay, wonderful analysis. I myself have been researching upon sindh. You shouldn't have taken only the arab records to account the events rather study the culture & demographic history regionally. People seem to be correct about Jainism being prominent here prior to arab conquest. I would suggest you to research about the topic in a complete set, make a video on the topic with impartial knowledge.
@user-zh3ke3eu3r
@user-zh3ke3eu3r 2 ай бұрын
intresting to note that all provinces in aryavarta which were sramana majority... all converted to islam. be it sindh, gandhara, punjab, bengal or kashmir.
@rogermilla2358
@rogermilla2358 2 ай бұрын
Uderolal = Jhulelal?
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 ай бұрын
could be a precursor, seems likely, right?
@anonymous-cg4ot
@anonymous-cg4ot Ай бұрын
India without Sindh will always be incomplete. Sindh is the mother of our nation. It's heartbreaking to see it away from our union.
@greatindus
@greatindus 2 ай бұрын
IS Xuanzang USE WORD "HINDU" IN HIS ORIGINAL WRITING?
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
Ok,if Sindh was jain then why it no jain temple except Tharparkar?? Sindh was Shaiva Hindu🕉️🛕🙏 Kingdom. Even till today Sindh has Shivling temples in Umerkot, Mithi and in Thar areas upto Multan in North. In Karachi ( capital of Sindh) only original Syambhu temple of Panchmukhi Hanuman is present 1500 years old. Kalika Devi temple in Sukkur which is also thousands of year old. In bordering Balochistanis Hingalaj Devi Shaktipeeth is there.
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
​@@hemishshah6666ok bro but Shiva is Supreme God 🙏
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
​@@chaitanyarakwal9727who is Shiva or kalyan roopi When did he exist on this prithvilok? Jina rishabhdev or adinath attained shiv pad Nirvana or moksha on mount kailash or asthapad Do you understand what we mean by Nirvana Do you understand meaning of swastik, om and crescent 🌙 moon sign with dot or star representing liberated soul or siddha atma or param Atman or paramatma Do you understand the concept of rebirth cycles and karmic bandhan or knot of samsaar Who is Shiva ??? Do you have any understanding of cosmology explained in your own religion Human civilization is way ancient and obviously it does not start from adi shankara madhvacharya and ramunajcharya who started shaivism and vaishnavite sect Before that there is nothing called Shiva , Vishnu or Brahma originally in Vedas The word was rudra like diety and principal god were Indra Do you know about Vedas itself Vedas itself mentions Jain tirthankaras
@pikachue602
@pikachue602 2 ай бұрын
I think you're quite wrong here budd is a derogatory remark on any indic religion made by the Islamists , budd parasti ie.idol worshipping... We hindus , buddhists,jains must come forward and ask the English professors to make a change here and convert idol to Icon Icon is the most suitable term
@vaibhavvishal7865
@vaibhavvishal7865 2 ай бұрын
I think budd actually is butt(बुत या बुतपरस्त) which in arab and islam means statue or followers of statue.
@madhavdargar8012
@madhavdargar8012 2 ай бұрын
Sindh Borders Lower Rajasthan & Gujrat Where The Influence of Jainism is still seen in the culture & temples while any kind of buddhist influence is nonexistent in these parts. Also Can You Do Balochistan before islamic conquest please.
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
Exactly It's very very suspicious of Jay, to not even mention about Jainism. Jainism was more prominent in sindh, than shaivism.
@madhavdargar8012
@madhavdargar8012 2 ай бұрын
@@khushiiieeee Are there any literary sources in jainism which talks about sindh?? Also In Lower Sindh Yes But In Upper Sindh I’m not sure about prominence of jainism as My Hometown borders Sindh and there’s still Jainism Present in my city with sizeable population & old temples but still the Main diety is a Vaishnavite diety which influences the whole region and the oldest and most temples are Shiva temples.
@Kahawagnou511
@Kahawagnou511 2 ай бұрын
​@@madhavdargar8012jain temples were converted by the kings who conquered it. You'll see that ancient hindu temples have jaina type of architecture.
@madhavdargar8012
@madhavdargar8012 2 ай бұрын
@@Kahawagnou511What is The Difference between the architecture of a Jain and Hindu Temple??? Except Dieties All the Hindu & Jain Temples in Gujarat & Rajasthan are of Nagar Style of Gurjar-Pratiharas which is based on Agama Shastra of Puranic temples.
@bluecolour8889
@bluecolour8889 2 ай бұрын
@@madhavdargar8012 Jains...They always try to victimize themselves, like Hindus did something bad with them in the past, also they can spread jainism and people can convert to jainism and buddhism by will in India, it doesn't matters. If they really had faced alot of persecution in the past as they claim, just for believing in a sect : buddhism, jainism would've been totally non-existence till now, in India and south asian sub-continent as a whole. But that's not the reality. Many shramanic practices like 'Ajivika' were lost, because of not having many believers.
@deepblue3682
@deepblue3682 2 ай бұрын
There were no jains in sindh?
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
It seems that Jay is trying to distort the history. Jainism was the prominent religion practiced in sindh, prior to arab invasion.
@dineshthakur3947
@dineshthakur3947 2 ай бұрын
Can you plz make a detailed vedeo on the authenticity of Ramayan and Mahabharat, how old are Vedas n Sanskrit? Also a vedeo on facts about chanakya
@rashidmohannadi8340
@rashidmohannadi8340 2 ай бұрын
Sumaniya means samma Rajput
@abhyudayakrishna
@abhyudayakrishna 2 ай бұрын
Most of jains still carry the surname of somaniya.
@bluecolour8889
@bluecolour8889 2 ай бұрын
@@abhyudayakrishna Samma communities were confined to Brahmanabad and its neighbouring regions. According to historian Sarah Ansari, both Sammas and Sumras were local Rajput tribes whose chiefs converted to Islam and were followers of Suhrawardi Sufi saints with their base at Uch and Multan. Jadeja and Chudasama clans which are the offshoot branches of the main Samma tribe are also mainly recognized as Rajputs(Source : wikipedia)
@rashidmohannadi8340
@rashidmohannadi8340 2 ай бұрын
@@abhyudayakrishna the samma may have taken their clans name from Buddhism so it could apply to both
@sagarkashyap6777
@sagarkashyap6777 2 ай бұрын
​@@rashidmohannadi8340from? Buddhism came much later.
@rashidmohannadi8340
@rashidmohannadi8340 2 ай бұрын
@@sagarkashyap6777 lmao Buddhism is 300 B.C
@FeroseRehman
@FeroseRehman Ай бұрын
Religion , religion religion there is often a reason behind someone's mysterious behavior.😂
@Koorush_bazurg
@Koorush_bazurg 2 ай бұрын
I think term Budd might have been used for religious structures like stupas whether Bhudh stupas or ancient stupas converted to Temples
@samchalohana4423
@samchalohana4423 2 ай бұрын
Humanity was the religion of IVC or probably Jainism
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
waha se pashubali ke evidence mile hai toh humanity kaha pe dikhti hai yaha😂
@Ayush97772
@Ayush97772 2 ай бұрын
They used to do animal sacrifice and were meat eaters
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028
@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 12 күн бұрын
Hawa xuanzhang never mention about hinduism. Filling ya own history
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Western part of Budhiyah and Makran seem to have been in Balochistan, while Multan is in Saraikistan.
@monsterousLad
@monsterousLad 2 ай бұрын
Correct, Sindh has been divided into many parts, sadly. Other actual Sindh covered almost whole South of Pakistan.
@ujjwalkumarray4786
@ujjwalkumarray4786 2 ай бұрын
Made similar video about pashtun religion I.e Khyber pakhtunkwa, Kabul, zabul 6th century to 10th century in reign of Buddhist shahi to Hindu shahi.
@user-mu8vy1bn8e
@user-mu8vy1bn8e 2 ай бұрын
Pls make one on Punjab. I have an idea that multan had Sun worship, and other parts of Punjabi had shakti or devi mata worship. But before islam buddhism also existed. And idk which religion was majority in cities and which one in rural. So think about making a video on it.
@pikachue602
@pikachue602 2 ай бұрын
It was mainly Surya,Devi,Shiva ancestors,Buddha,etc . Cannot guess the majority as there's no such proper documents
@EasyRitwik
@EasyRitwik 2 ай бұрын
You should have informed viewers that our Takshshila and Nalanda libraries which contained rich history of not only Sindh but entire India were destroyed by invaders. That's THE reason why we have to depend upon foreign travellers to know our history, which often be distorted. So, can u kindly edit yr video and include this imp fact.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 ай бұрын
irrelevant to the video lol. speculation.
@arpan9937
@arpan9937 2 ай бұрын
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 The video itself is irrelevant.
@zayanalam9828
@zayanalam9828 2 ай бұрын
Taxila and nalanda were two buddhist scholastic institutions that focused on producing works of Buddhist thoughts. They didnt write down the history of the subcontinent so it's very unlikely that works about history was destroyed when these two universities fell under ruin.
@netaji-thebritishslayer
@netaji-thebritishslayer Ай бұрын
Nalanda abd takshashila were world class universities​@@zayanalam9828
@eden55272
@eden55272 2 ай бұрын
Hindus propaganda destroyed in this video
@MrRahul6464
@MrRahul6464 2 ай бұрын
Halala ki paidaish. 😂
@tejas3463
@tejas3463 2 ай бұрын
For first, i thought why is this guy distorting the history? Especially when he has a phd certificate on history? Then i realised you're from JNU 😊
@TingTong2568
@TingTong2568 2 ай бұрын
Please eloborate further how is he distorting history?
@AniketChauhan947
@AniketChauhan947 2 ай бұрын
@@TingTong2568 he's misrepresenting jains as Buddhists.
@jata6423
@jata6423 2 ай бұрын
So much hatred. People are giving rape threats to a girl just because she said that shaiva kings converted jain temples. Are you going to do anything about it or not?
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
Who😮?
@abhinnakhale7520
@abhinnakhale7520 2 ай бұрын
Kon wo do kodi jnu chhap luchika shawarma🤣🤣
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
U are hot😮
@bharat8123
@bharat8123 2 ай бұрын
I never heard of such a news...Fake news😂
@jata6423
@jata6423 2 ай бұрын
@@bharat8123 read about sambhadhar.
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
Next video on Ancient Punjab.
@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL
@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
Majority of Jat population in Sindh and lower Punjab were Buddhists, seems Buddhism was a very vast religion expanding from east asian nations upto Afghanistan.
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
No they were jains Marwadi , kutchi and even Punjabi jains Jainiyo ka gadh tha Punjab and sindh with ancient Jain temples and stupas Everything is labelled as Hinduism or Buddhism Kindly don't make joke of history
@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL
@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL 2 ай бұрын
@@paulomi9351i read this in one brahman author’s book where he mentioned that Brahmans allied with islamic invaders and made Buddhist Jats suffer. I have never read that Jats followed jainism, is there any proof that they were jains?
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL yeah multan Surya mandir and jain temples in sindh and multan Sindhu sauvira janpada was under king udayan who took Jain diksha under vardhaman mahavir himself Read history of arora khatri clan descendants of raghukul or suryavanshi or ikshvaku lineage started from Jain tirthankar rishabhdev or adinath Also jains with surname vora / vohra and later came bohra
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL Jain tirthankaras idols excavated Even from turkey and kept in museum across Europe and America Do you know anything about jina tatva or shiv tatva or sohum or tatva massi Jin” means one who have achieved Jeet (Victory) over internal and eternal enemies including Karmas. They are the Enlightened Souls who have achieved Omniscience (Pure and complete knowledge - all knowing, all seeing, can observe past present and future of the entire universe; Keval Gyan).
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
@@MRSINGH.OFFICIAL जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है। Ashoks grandson samrat samprati also known as Jain Ashok and son of blind son kunala was staunch Jainism follower and expanded Mauryan empire even beyond Afghanistan till khotan Uzbekistan and lower areas of china and down south He built several Jain temple and stupas all across his kingdom Sirkap stupa in Pakistan belongs to Jainism with inscription in Brahmi and kharosti Brahmi script itself named after jains first tirthankar rishabhdev or adinath whose sign or lanchan is bull and yaksha or guardian attendant diety is gomukh yaksha and yakshini chakreshwari mata whose vehicle is Garuda He attained shiv pad Nirvana or moksha on mount kailash or asthapad Jains are agamic people or agam shastras Do know about agam agochar
@ganeshnomulwar6704
@ganeshnomulwar6704 2 ай бұрын
Jai vardhan sahab hindi me video banaye hame bhi samaj aye......
@Kahawagnou511
@Kahawagnou511 2 ай бұрын
Listen Jay, you shouldn't project your video as if a lesson on history, or as set of facts. This is simply an opinion of yours, which is significantly devoid of facts and reality. I would request you to do proper research before coming on to such conclusions like which you stated. Looking up to you, i request you to give an unbiased viewpoint towards jainism. Don't be biased against it.
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Ancient history is always about interpretation of available historical facts. Also see the pinned comment.
@Mitchybianca
@Mitchybianca 2 ай бұрын
​@@hemishshah6666don't respond to that guy. He's a troll and has a propoganda to spread.
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 ай бұрын
lol butthurt
@dipakmanek7839
@dipakmanek7839 2 ай бұрын
😂
@Kalyan458
@Kalyan458 2 ай бұрын
Mahabharata and King Jayadradha, queen Dussala are the evidences of Hindu civilization of Sindhu. नर्मदे सिन्धु कावेरि जलेऽस्मिन् संनिधिं कुरु ॥ This Daily Prayer of Hindus is enough to prove Sanatana Past of Sindhu Desh.
@mogambo4565
@mogambo4565 2 ай бұрын
Buddhist and jains are both shramanas in origins. Even buddhists called themselves shramanas in their texts. They both diverged into different branches after buddha. Even one Persian king mentioned shramanas and brahmanas in his edict.
@Koorush_bazurg
@Koorush_bazurg 2 ай бұрын
Ancient Punjab plz
@Denny-ri7vw
@Denny-ri7vw 2 ай бұрын
Sindh was historically jain. Great Shaiva kings conquered up jain temples and transformed them into shaiva temples.
@user-uo1tk9ig5l
@user-uo1tk9ig5l 2 ай бұрын
There is not a single jain majority district in India and you are saying Jain were in majority in Sindh . There is no proof of that. One can even argue about Buddhism but buddhism was mostly in afghanistan
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-uo1tk9ig5lmost of jains were massacred by shaivaites, Mughals and rest were converted.
@khushiiieeee
@khushiiieeee 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-uo1tk9ig5lthere's currently not a single hindu district in Pakistan, does that imply Hindus never existed in Pakistan? What weird form of analogy do you produce.
@Amish2405
@Amish2405 2 ай бұрын
​@@user-uo1tk9ig5lmost of shaiva kings had converted jainas of sindh. There are literary sources to proove this.
@vkk2040
@vkk2040 2 ай бұрын
Jainism probably had great following in places at times like the Jews in pockets of Europe throughout history. Honestly the structures, institutions and practices of the religion doesn't suggest mainstream, especially a rural practice of the religion unlike Buddhism whose dominant expression involves great monasteries sustained by common rural people's donations in very large numbers that could be sustained only as a majority religion.
@manthanpandya7501
@manthanpandya7501 2 ай бұрын
Why 😂 suddenly all Jains are here and started questioning Jay 😂?! Come on... it's history, don't be emotional and don't try to be scholars based on your religious point of views. Whatever Jay has said he has given archeological, inscriptions, travellouge, literature evidence to prove his point. If you have credible evidence to support your claim just throw it rather than questioning someone 's intentions
@jayantsingh667
@jayantsingh667 2 ай бұрын
It seems like you're blindly following Jay. If you had known anything about sindh, you wouldn't be barking like this. It's already a well known fact about how jains were the majority religion in sindh. It's not about facts. He's trying to ignore the obvious. He is behaving like genocide deniers.
@jimmy-dz5xi
@jimmy-dz5xi 2 ай бұрын
Are you an idiot? Literally, shramana means jains.. He used a word which is used to represent Jainism, and presented it as if it's Buddhism. Such people with terrorising mentality don't deserve to have a PhD degree.
@riteshpancholia3718
@riteshpancholia3718 2 ай бұрын
Dumb bro, one needs not be a jain, to oppose such bull$hit. Check the section. Hindus, muslims, Christians, jains... Everyone is calling out Jay's failed attempt of distortion of history. I myself am sanatani hindu. No one has given him any authority to distort the history. Shramana word is used for jains, not for Buddhists. Yet he tried to present Buddhists as shramanas. There are thousands of Jain temples, which are converted into mosques in sindh.
@Priteshgada834
@Priteshgada834 2 ай бұрын
Stop showing your hatred against jains so openly. I thought racism was still a crime.
@bhavya7251
@bhavya7251 2 ай бұрын
Ab toh Jay bhaay ne boldiya toh history hi hoga 🤡 Jay bhaayyyyyyyyy
@asimshabbir5578
@asimshabbir5578 2 ай бұрын
Sindh is called gateway of Islam to subcontinent!
@sambitjena9558
@sambitjena9558 2 ай бұрын
Sindh got converted so fast from sanatan dharma to islam
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
No,bro it still has so many Hindus in Pakistan. Majority of them migrated after Partition.
@user-mu8vy1bn8e
@user-mu8vy1bn8e 2 ай бұрын
No many Hindus were still there. Sindh was like 40% Hindu. And when Sikhism came almost All Hindus also started following Nanak Shah ji, a Sindhi name from Guru Nanak. Which we can even find today many Sindhis following Guru Nanak and Jhulelal side by side
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
@@user-mu8vy1bn8e bro my friend is Sindhi Hindu but they worship Guru Granth Sahib ji . They are not like Punjab Sikh but are Nanakpanthis.
@chaitanyarakwal9727
@chaitanyarakwal9727 2 ай бұрын
@@user-mu8vy1bn8e In north Sindh you will find most of them have Guru Granth Sahib ji but they are not Keshdhari.
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Sanatan dharma is not any religion. It is just a concept given in texts which means 'eternal duties'.
@pawanbshah3980
@pawanbshah3980 2 ай бұрын
Not jain , not Hindu all were budhist there during that time .
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
Nice joke
@pawanbshah3980
@pawanbshah3980 2 ай бұрын
@@Parmeshwari-nb7tx maybe sounds a joke for a fool
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
@@pawanbshah3980 without evidence joke ko joke hi kaha jayega aur tum log toh ho hi joke..blue joker
@pawanbshah3980
@pawanbshah3980 2 ай бұрын
​@@Parmeshwari-nb7txphd hi kyu na Kare ek bramehin kabhi gyani nahin hota hai
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
@@pawanbshah3980 low !!!q ke nei Buddhist Gyan na de,.
@anetavaid5485
@anetavaid5485 2 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for sharing. A Hindu from Guyana
@kanishkkumar5431
@kanishkkumar5431 2 ай бұрын
So many Jain and hindu andhbhakt r fighting in cmmnts Let me tell some basic knowledge Sraman is a term used for the sections of people who disowned vedas and their ideas. So they were nonvedic community. ...... All these budhhism. Jainism ajivikas. Charvaka were section of this shraman movement ....most famous and the one who really had given though fight to bhraman religion was budhhism .......but sadly some idiots who call themselves as hindus or sanatani tries to potrays budhhism as a section of hinduism .actually budhhism was one of the biggest rivals of hindusim accrding to unbiased history. .. U cnpotrt anything as history accrding to ur religious beliefs but it can't be called as authentic. ..
@Ayush97772
@Ayush97772 2 ай бұрын
Caravka is not a sraman tradition... Someone tradition refers to the tradition which believes that world is pure pain and the only way to free from it is to leave the world by becoming a monk
@prithwishroy
@prithwishroy 2 ай бұрын
So Buddhist jatakas texts are not authentic 😮😂
@kanishkkumar5431
@kanishkkumar5431 2 ай бұрын
@@prithwishroy burned 😆?
@prithwishroy
@prithwishroy 2 ай бұрын
@@kanishkkumar5431 all of them¿ 😣😖
@PrachandParshuram
@PrachandParshuram 2 ай бұрын
No Hind without Sindh, imagine CONgress doing a grubby deal behind close doors and under the table to give away the very ancestral lands of Indus Valley which has been defended by the blood of Sanatani's for millennia to appease islamist extremists. Jinti abadi utna haq 🤦🏻🤷🏻
@Amish2405
@Amish2405 2 ай бұрын
Is Jay trying to appropriate jain history of sindh? 1) he's doing propoganda 2) he's ignorant about jainism 3) trying to cater to larger audiance, by claiming everyone was either hindu or buddhist. 4) is being paid specifically to hide jaina ancestry of sindh.
@mayankdubey2006
@mayankdubey2006 2 ай бұрын
Paid by who ? Elaborate
@Amish2405
@Amish2405 2 ай бұрын
@@mayankdubey2006 probably by someone who wishes to hide jain history of sindh. Sindh was literally created by jainas. Probably some fanatic Indian right wingers who want to project Hindus being everywhere before arab conquests. Or some jains, who're trying to hide a fact that jains were present in large quantities in sindh when sindh went away to the invaders. In order to protect their face from humility, jains might be paying him on erase jaina history of sindh. Left leaning liberals who want to show that Jainism and Buddhism were born as forces to oppose Brahmanism, and that Jainism wasn't present prior to hindu brahminism. It could be anyone with vested interests.
@Bronsonnarrator
@Bronsonnarrator 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Amish2405 something wrong in your head or what? His knowledge comes from Indian academic, if you think something is wrong became a historian and question the authority with proof. He is not blabbering random shit, he said what has been scientifically researched.
@dhimankalita1690
@dhimankalita1690 2 ай бұрын
​@Amish2405 how can u be so cringe lmao. Sure right wingers and leftist are paying a small youtuber to distort history . Conspiracy theories are getting out of hand
@yashagrawal88
@yashagrawal88 2 ай бұрын
Good jokes without evidence.
@Priteshgada834
@Priteshgada834 2 ай бұрын
Propoganda video? Poor research and completely misleading.
@Mahi-lo7hd
@Mahi-lo7hd 2 ай бұрын
Brother please make a series on gujjar Pratihara Empire and their relationship with indo Shahi,tripartite struggle between pala , them and Rashtrakuta. How were they able to withstand such hostile neighbours including Arabs. Origin of rajput as well.
@Playerone1287
@Playerone1287 2 ай бұрын
Guys go out and vote for country INDIA, vote for democracy Nhi to fir baad me electoral autocracy aayegi Please go out and vote😢😢
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
Corruption nahi chahiye isliye bjp ko vote denge aur emergency bhi nahi chahiye isliye bjp ko vote denge..chamche yaha bhi aa gaye
@prithwishroy
@prithwishroy 2 ай бұрын
Thanks destroying SJ's claims 😂😂
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
There is no proof of Hinduism Before Buddha 🤣
@pikachue602
@pikachue602 2 ай бұрын
😂😂 that's your hope your dream your fantasies Blues cheemis😂😂 Buddhists looted everything from Hindus even the script called siddham and sharada extensively by the Tibetans
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
@@PK-se2jh Any archeological evidence? Any Hindu related archeological evidence before Buddha? 🤨
@Agnostic7773
@Agnostic7773 2 ай бұрын
@@tattvamashi What is the religion Buddha father and mother ? Buddhism !! Buddha can be mythical as well !! statues doesn't prove existence of a person
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
​@@tattvamashisanatan samiksha dekh lena,tum blue joker ki hi band bajti hai waha archaeology history pe baki Ashok se pehle Buddha ka koi evidence nahi milta
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
@@Agnostic7773 Why their no knowledge of Sculpture Making to Indian or writing System before Kushan or Greek period?
@walterwhite5312
@walterwhite5312 2 ай бұрын
Sir can u plzz cover the topic of ancient philosophies like...Vaisheshika,Ajivika,Charvaak..etc etc....Humble request..
@rahulmalhotra3870
@rahulmalhotra3870 2 ай бұрын
He has already covered them in his earlier videos
@siddharthsinha2342
@siddharthsinha2342 2 ай бұрын
Why do people pronounce BUDDHAA? It is Buddh (the 'a' at the end is to complete the DH syllable). Same with RAM and KRISHN
@rishavkumar1250
@rishavkumar1250 2 ай бұрын
In sanskrit it is Buddha,Rama and Krishna ... Hindi and other indian languages removed the A sound at the end
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
​​@@rishavkumar1250buddh is title for enlightenment and no proof of any sakya Prince Siddharth himself starting any religion called Buddhism जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है। Jina dharm or Jain dharm Jina tatva or shiv tatva or tatva massi or sohum or sivo aham or aham brahmasi concept Jains mentions soham daily in samayik and pratikaman prayers
@siddharthsinha2342
@siddharthsinha2342 2 ай бұрын
@rishavkumar1250 In Sanskrit too the AA sound at the end isn't used in these cases
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है।
@paulomi9351
@paulomi9351 2 ай бұрын
जिन।-तीर्थशंकर के समान। (आईई 7-1-2), 'ट्वेंटीफोर'। (एलएल), बुद्ध का एक विशेषण। नोट: जिन को "भारतीय एपिग्राफिकल शब्दकोष" में परिभाषित किया गया है क्योंकि यह आमतौर पर संस्कृत, प्राकृत या द्रविड़ भाषाओं में लिखे गए प्राचीन शिलालेखों पर पाया जा सकता है। Jin” means one who have achieved Jeet (Victory) over internal and eternal enemies including Karmas. They are the Enlightened Souls who have achieved Omniscience (Pure and complete knowledge - all knowing, all seeing, can observe past present and future of the entire universe; Keval Gyan).
@magma9000
@magma9000 2 ай бұрын
Love from Sindh, Karachi 🇵🇰♥️
@vdm8265
@vdm8265 2 ай бұрын
Religious fanaticism destroyed native Sindhi culture..whole Pakistan is doomed anyway
@deepblue3682
@deepblue3682 2 ай бұрын
Do Sindhis in Pakistan study these history
@jyotivyas9286
@jyotivyas9286 2 ай бұрын
Bhago yha se
@tattvamashi
@tattvamashi 2 ай бұрын
Bhagg Mulley! Pakistan ko Fir se Buddhist Bana😢
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx
@Parmeshwari-nb7tx 2 ай бұрын
​@@jyotivyas9286kya problem hai??wo kuch bad words likha hai kya??
@harikrishnayadav3320
@harikrishnayadav3320 2 ай бұрын
I request you to cover history of Sindh during Vedic and mahajanapada period..
@harikrishnayadav3320
@harikrishnayadav3320 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your detailed videos
@badarpurschool9618
@badarpurschool9618 2 ай бұрын
Interesting facts about Sindh ,s old religious doctrines and landscape
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