Incoming PULL DROUGHT?! Expected Pull Income in Wuthering Waves Patch 1.1

[@Nunazac]

People are only worried about a "pull drought" because its a new, hyped game and everyone is spending everything right away. Unless you pay for pulls, F2P always has to be cautious and frugal with the pull currencies since there is a limited amount of content to earn it from. It will all balance out in the long run

[@rasu02]

yup

[@kuezar]

@FangOfLight That's why you pull for style, not for meta. 😎

[@xymexymers1463]

Yeah I get it but the thing is WUWA was hyped as a god amongst gacha games, but turned out to be just a bit better regarding rewards.

[@whatamidoinghere4216]

​@FangOfLightexactly why I'm only pulling for supports since they almost always stay relevant at least 6 or more patches later and may even more considering this kuro who what a physical tank be undefeated in her role up until recently

[@kuezar]

@@xymexymers1463 We just wanted a game with endgame (that is, difficult content that has an element of mastery) and devs that listen - so far we've pretty much gotten both, for now at least. As long as a certain herb picking, part of the gacha community playing WuWa does not go crazy over feedback and valid criticism, claiming these to be unnecessary or hateful AND Kuro - regardless of their future income - keeps on listening to players that actually want better for the game, we're good. 😏

[@Selv536]

Kurogame is already way more generous than genshin hoyoverse. Dont know why some just complain about not enough rewards. Being f2p dont mean u can get all the 5 star on a gacha game unless ur lucky.

[@Iluvatar196]

Yeah man, the game has been out for barely 1 month and most of us should already have about 3 5*.. Doesnt anyone remember how long did they get their THIRD 5* in Genshin?

[@muszy281]

​@@Iluvatar196i have remember, its exactly 4 months because of husbando banners which i dont like tho. I win every 50/50 thats my flex 😅

[@JuanSuarez-ee9mh]

PGR, the other kuro's game is a game where as f2p you can actually get every 5* released

[@placeholder7753]

@@Iluvatar196 thats because genshin is really really toxic in terms of their rates. in other gachas like arknights, you can start off easily with a couple of 6 stars (equivalent to 5 star limiteds) in power and they still earn lots of money... arknights allows u to farm multiple pulls every week and u get like a handfull of pulls daily from rando stuff + events give u good amounts of pulls too, u could pull for every other banner somewhat decently as a f2p and some could get multipl;e in a row without no lifing the game

[@djinsh626]

​@@Iluvatar196can confirm, already got 6 5* in total (including the weapons) without even spending money. Jiyan and his weapon, Calcharo, Verina, Jianxin, and the 5* standard katana (I got all of that within 2 weeks of playing). Whereas in Genshin, I only got 4 5* on 1.1 even though I've been playing since release.

[@offlinegam3r]

"pull drought" is nothing worth talking about same f2p drama every other gotcha games BUT echo upgrade mats in the other hand ...is a whole different story

[@RanRan_11]

True. The moment pulls become scarce, f2ps suddenly start crying about not being able to feed their gambling addiction. The best part is when they start comparing the rewards to some low effort PNG game where they give hundreds of pulls every month, it really shows why those guys are playing gacha games.

[@kanishakdas5221]

​@@RanRan_11lol I never thought that PGR is a low effort PNG game.

[@zenixvampirchik652]

@@RanRan_11 and isn't by calculations pulls are somewhere around between* hsr and genshin per patch so far (1.0 base without all of the compensations and 1.1) it's just that there's is no ascension standard pulls, but slightly morea asterite

[@SolaireOfToast]

@@kanishakdas5221 It is a low effort. Like have you played the game? The level design is SO disgusting bad. This game feels like it was made in 2010, aside for the combat.

[@sebastian9777]

​@@SolaireOfToastEven combat feels bad because the story is 90% talking and 10% oneshotting weak mobs in 5 secs

[@Ghoosty_]

Everything is fine the only thing I don't like about WuWa is the waveplate costs. Everything costs 60 or 40 waveplates and it's a pain.

[@saintnotasaint4998]

They will be changing it soon, people have told them that it is a bit unfair and they posted about balancing it. It will come with the next patch apparently

[@io_onigiri]

​@@saintnotasaint4998 what they change is the drop rate not waveplate usage

[@laiybanez]

REAL😭😭😭

[@Jade.051]

@@saintnotasaint4998Yeah they either upgrade the rewards or lower the waveplates cost, because it’s not worth it at the moment

[@crownjun5930]

@@saintnotasaint4998 and where is the official posts on that?? i don't see anywhere nor anyone mentioning at all. stop spreading copium rumors

[@TriEdge-f3i]

If they want to be a f2p player, they better just wait on the half/anniversary in where we get 5 star selector and probably also a 5star weapon. F2P players need to know that they can't compete with p2w players. When it comes to collection.

[@EnvyIXA]

Basically. Nobody's is forcing then to spend or not to spend but let's be honest. If you play a gacha game expect to not get lucky every single limited banner . Or use your funds and actually plan ahead 😂 I'm f2p but when it comes down to it buy monthly and battle pass. But I also know what until I want . And not just going to be pulling on every single limited banner because of "tier list" and how Meta they are. 😂

[@dslrjm7691]

Games before genshin actually give u a lot of but because of this mentality of some people "that's enough" gacha is now what it is. P2w for more power and better ranking up characters and f2p for get u a guaranty atleast every patch it's how was before.

[@EnvyIXA]

@dslrjm7691 agreed they let genshin control them lol and due to that every game (most games) just figured they can get away with it also 😆 like they were too busy seeing genshing for the moment not thinking about the future/currently

[@TriEdge-f3i]

@@dslrjm7691 yeah when I played Genshin 1.0 i straight up uninstall and went back to King's Raid.

[@qwertysysysyysysysyzz]

f2p here pulled jiyan , his sig weap, and also S6 mortefi and S2 danjin, others are bitcging about nothing i already clear TOA 21 stars on hazard mode

[@Byakuya468]

after getting Yinlin her weapon, I'll probably won't be pulling for some time. Calcharo is cool and Verina is already in. Edit: didn't manage to get her weapon, but waited for Jinhsi weapon for Calcharo. Just 1 pull 😊(72 pity roll over from Yinlin's weapon banner)

[@namumulaklak]

I also pulled Yinlin and her weapon. I probably won’t pull until the 1.2

[@zerulaw9118]

@@namumulaklakyeah me too…after I got her weapon jinshi and changli basically out of grasp for me

[@Pihox]

I got jiyan and his weapon, now 50 pity for yinlin, will get her if I completely explore the map, so after that will be saving for next 2 major patches.

[@Suc-Chii]

​@@Pihox and if you lose then that means guaranteed jinshi, well that's a no lose strat bud

[@M-hl2qs]

lol its become genshin patern when come to pull rotation .. if u pull current banner next banner or next 2 banner willl skip because no resource ( for f2p )

[@jaguh9069]

Pull drought will inevitably comes for every gacha games lol If you're F2P, never ever expects that you can pull for every limited character and/or their weapons. Honestly 90+ pull every patch is normal. You can get at least 1 5* every patch whether you win 50/50 or not and if you really want to guarantee 1 copy of limited 5* you'd have to skip 1 whole patch. Its the same thing with Genshin & HSR, once you've done everything, you get around 80-90 pulls per patch and there its 90 pity 😅 The great thing in Wuwa is you can guarantee the weapon, so if you skip 1 patch (180 pulls), then win 50/50 next patch, you're guaranteed their weapon if you choose to get them.

[@dslrjm7691]

And what about dry patch . And also if u guys stop saying "that's enough" Kuro will 100% listen. And the whole reason f2p came to kuro from max out genshin account is to get a much much better treatment. We got treated like shit why u against when u guys can be treated like a king.

[@jaguh9069]

@@dslrjm7691 Its very early to say if a dry patch will comes tho. So far 1.1 will have new maps so we can only know with time. I not asking Kuro to stop giving stuff, but keep your expectation in check as kuro's 'generosity' is bug compensations so you can't expect free 10 pulls every patch like hsr. It's fundamentally different thing. But it's nice if they just adopt it.

[@dslrjm7691]

@@jaguh9069 wtf u get free 10 pulls every patch in hsr. Actually pgr was still more generous but if they want to end competition they should give more. Cause zzz is coming if they gave same treatment as hsr a huge chunk will go to zzz. F2p players love free thing's. And f2p players are the reason p2w invest money no one will invest money in a dead game

[@OMPSaintTO]

@@dslrjm7691 Bud, you're getting a guanteed 5 star plus 12 pulls........ PER PATCH, f2ps simply increase the game's numbers and make it more popular, the game being good and enjoyable is why the whales spend money on the game... f2p generates no active profit to the game, there's a limit to how much kuro can give away to make the f2ps that just talk and yap but don't actually give them anything monetarily happy, this is more than basically every single gacha game that is on the market right now. You're compaing HSR giving 10 free pulls when WUWA is literally giving u minimum 50 if u literally just clear some story and do one event. There's a limit to getting 'treated better' because of ur past trauma with a game which is your own fault for playing it and asking for compensation on mistakes the company makes. Kuro has addressed all their mistakes in patch 1.0 to the best of their ability besides the audio and compensated us I think plenty for it, crybabies who only think to complain because they're not getting everything they want are what's going to not only run this community toxic, but also run this game to the ground.

[@dslrjm7691]

@@OMPSaintTO bro do u even played wuwa kuro giving 50 pull minimum in a single event. Bruh the f. Also if I will get atleast a granted character I won't be saying anything. 1.1 u will be getting 92 pulls u need 140 if u hit hard pity. So I think u should get ur facts check and no game will give u 50 pull from a single event more than once and that one is actually when game will launch.

[@kuezar]

0:41 I think that's a bit of a stretch - considering that a bad thing that is. First of, what are we comparing to? Genshin? HSR? In Genshin, yes, the Stardust Exchange resets every 30 days (Stardust Exchange=Oscillated Coral shop), but it gives you 5 limited pulls and 5 standard pulls. Oscillated Coral shop resets every 42 days, but it gives you 6 limited character pulls, 6 standard pulls AND 6 limited weapon pulls, the last of which has an increased value as it has a guarantee, so each pull is actually - in a way - more valuable. Another thing is, that in Genshin, those pulls cost 75 units of Masterless Stardust (Masterless Stardust=Oscillated Coral) whereas the ones in WuWa cost 70 Oscillated Coral each. If we were to compare the value in numbers: Genshin: 5 limited + 5 standard = 10 / 30 days = 0.(3) "pulls/day" in comparison to WuWa: 6+6 limited + 6 standard= 18 / 42 = 0.43 "pulls/day" (43% increase) If we only compare the limited pulls it's: 0.16 to 0.29 respectively (81% increase) or 0.16 to 0.14 respectively (14% decrease if we don't count in the limited weapon pulls in WuWa) ["pulls/day"] What no one talks about is actually being able to buy these out, which if someone is saving (thus doesn't pull, thus doesn't get the corresponding currency) they might not be able to do so, in which case, the stretched time of the reset might help with (less resets=more time to save and pull=getting the currency=good). I haven't made calcs for sustainability of buying these pulls from the shop each reset, but I totally found myself having to skip the standard pulls in order to not lose out on the limited one, back in a day. 😅 EDIT: Concerning the sustainability of buying pulls with Oscillated Coral, the math is kind of simple: Knowing that we need 840 for character and weapon limited pulls or 1260 for the aforementioned AND standard pulls, we need to spend around 62 pulls and 93 pulls respectively each reset to make sure, we have enough Oscillated Coral. (i.e.: if 135oc on average from each 10 pull: (840/135)*10=62.(2) pulls) EDIT2: Aaand from version 1.1 it's not 6 pulls each - it's 7 now, so... No further comment needed. Das it... Not sorry for 🤓ing 🤣

[@mcbx3d]

Yeah I was thing that way too, I didn't do math to calc efficiency... but... yeah

[@rasu02]

Makes sense, thanks for doing all the calcs! I’m ass at numbers so I appreciate the clarification 🙂‍↕️

[@chronostar7968]

I think people got it wrong to assume it resets every 42 days, it's only 42 days since it got released closed to June, Why would they even reset it 12 days after? It'll probably reset every 30 days they just decided to make it 42 days for the time being.

[@pandan__]

@@chronostar7968People assume it would be 42 days because it’s the duration of the patch (6 weeks) and also it was the timeframe stated on the shop on day 1. We still have to wait and see whether they will keep this or change it to monthly. Right now it is still speculation. Same thing with ToA, the post says there is only 2 rotation of rewards a patch but if you look at the timeframe after reset, it’s every 2 weeks not 3 moving forward.

[@ljunljun6354]

wow thanks for counting this, good job😮

[@ResearcherReasearchingResearch]

This is the biggest reason why I look at leaks. Getting to see the next batch of units and comparing it to the current ones helps so much so you can decide if you want to hold and save or if to pull now.

[@manofthepeople2165]

Dude, it's a gacha game not a charity. Genshin impact literally does the same thing, once u clear all the exploration, achievements, and quests, the only way to get gems is by doing dailys or events.

[@dslrjm7691]

still can't deny that u can't pull for weapon banner. And i think "that's enough" Mentality should be stop. And u get what u get why are u worrying about a company. When u can get ur character u like.

[@XGAMINNN]

Even for f2p players they should provide them enough pulls to get 1 character with signature weapon in each patch they can earn a lot of money just from the players being active in the game being to greedy like genshin will lead to the downfall

[@Zyleace]

Then go back to genshin if that's what you want. We don't need Kuro Games to do a charity, but we need a chance to get a limited 5* each patch. HSR does this, PGR also does this(actually for them it's guaranteed everytime).

[@MatthewCJoy]

imagine defending greed

[@z33iihh]

@@Zyleace 1.1 Already has over 92 pulls that you can get for just logging and playing. That's enough for a 5 star. You can't be serious thinking that by being f2p you'll get EVERY single unit that releases every patch?? Yeah HSR gives a ton of stuff, yet i too have to miss on characters that i want to guarantee myself the one which is coming after. It's all about planning your resources. We can't get everything, either deal with it and learn which characters are more worth to pull for, or go cry to the church. Gachas are gachas.

[@dragonkingxl3310]

While i do wish they give rewards for leveling up characters or your world since it feels unrewarding compared to star rail(not genshin cuz its garbage, you get like 1/5 wish for every level) its not true that they dont give us enough pulls which are literally the same amount as genshin(like 100) but also because we get huge advantages like guaranteed weapon banner, hard pity being 80 instead of 90, free 5 star of choice on release, 5 star selector, etc, we do get alot of wishes as f2p and we have to accept that as f2p you cant compete with p2w players and the amount of gems were getting is fine although i cant say the game is perfect for example echoes being less efficient to farm but atleast we dont have to waste energy on them unlike genshin and hsr with artifacts and relics or game bugs, but those are expected since its a new game with a tremendous fanbase alredy so yes, its a good game with good mechanics and great potential for growth Note: the amount of apologems are also crazy ngl

[@MuyaRizal]

i play both genshin and wuwa. in genshin you need 420 pulls for guaranteed 5* and their weapon which i often skip the weapon in wuwa you only need 240 pulls for guaranteed 5* and weapon. i now have 159 pulls ready for jinhsi and gonna pull her weapon if i have enough on 1.1.

[@dslrjm7691]

I really don't know how u guys play same game same map same dangin for like 60 days straight without getting even a new character. U guys are so boring dude

[@saiavabel6076]

​@@dslrjm7691 beggars can't be choosers. I only buy monthly luntie thing and ik for sure I can't have all chars I want. I will choose which I want farm them

[@dslrjm7691]

@@saiavabel6076 yes beggars can't be choosers but they can be gambler. 💩💩

[@saiavabel6076]

@@dslrjm7691 ya which is essential is gacha and lot of people do become beggars by gamble. That's life. There is always gamble in life whatever action you take. If u hate gamble so much better quit all gacha games that's best for u

[@dslrjm7691]

@@saiavabel6076 bro is down bad addict to gambling. Anyway if I am not wasting money I can be a responsible person that's what matter for me.as gambling matter for u. And no, in life there's no gambling if u don't want to do it.

[@johnbot1778]

remember guys, we only got thos goodies from 1.0 version because of the disaster of the game's launch (and because its new so rewards are gonna be everywhere). so be fully prepared for lower incomes just like any other gacha games. but i hope its not as severe as other games

[@shin1300]

In pgr Kuro gives out s-rank selectors and certain patch gives a new s-rank character for free outright and those are all meta characters. However in wuwa the gacha system leans more on Kuro's profit compared to pgr. I am not sure if Kuro would give out 5 star selector like they do in pgr we have to wait and see until then its best to save for characters you like as f2p

[@Noerusakuragiofficial]

I was hoping that it would be like PGR. We had a full month to pull for a new s rank character

[@Vizible21]

​@@Noerusakuragiofficialwell technically you have. 1 patch is literally a month and by that you can get 1 5 star? Plus they literally just give us a 5 star ticket no? Or y'all already forget that?

[@Noerusakuragiofficial]

@@Vizible21 true true true they really decided to release 3 very limited cool characters

[@mismismism]

It's true. Standard banner alone, it's hard for a lot of us to even get enough pulls for the selector since there are no standard pulls from leveling like Genshin or Star Rail. All the compensation has masked how much more stingy the game is with currency. It's looking like it's going to be much more difficult for F2P or even low spenders to pull characters than Genshin. Both games have a lot of issues that weirdly match like one sucks here, the other sucks there, one is strong here, the other is strong there.

[@pexch5822]

the shop is a monthly reset but since the game came out a week before the end of may i think they just set the first month to add an extra week because with the original 1.1 patch date we would have had the shop reset a few days before at the start of july (to clarify i did the math based off the days left before we got told the patch was getting shortened)

[@MZHamshari]

This is exactly what i was thinking, people need to stop coming up with things without confirming it 🤷‍♂

[@pcpc1289]

Even p2w player would really consider about the swiping, i mean $100 for only 40 pulls, to get to pity, you need to swipe atleast $200. And that did not include pulling weapons. They really need to consider their pricing. The double asterite are actually quite reasonable in terms of pricing, but you only get to do that on first purchase what a bummer. That should reset every new banner come out imo.

[@Snealer]

I agree with you with getting at least hard pity every patch, if they keep that up no one should be complaining. Because like you said once again, if everyone gets every character every patch, what’s the point of spending money besides getting copies. Good video man, thank you!

[@Pender-uq1lg]

I think to offset this is to make skins. Nikke essentially does this. They sell skins like crazy. You could also pay money for more mats like exp,tunners,etc in wuthering waves if you wanted to. I think they can stand to be more generous. Even just uping the pull rate to like 1.5 percent or something. Nikkes is 3 percent. My issue is that games like nikke, azur lane and brown dust 2 are extremely f2p friendly and have no issue making money every month. Sure it might not be on the same level as hoyo, but I think hoyo is more mainstream with more players than something like nikke so people would probably pay for skins more in something like genshin/star rail/wuthering waves since there is a bigger player base for those games.

[@cookiewithlove2081]

Imagine hitting hard pity and getting an off-rate.

[@Snealer]

@@Pender-uq1lg I totally agree with your statement there. We love cosmetics, so adding skins won’t do any harm. Upping the rate to 1.5 (for us Gacha gamers) is actually super high. But that doesn’t mean that theirs have to be so low either. They did decide to have it 0.2% higher than Genshin/Hsr, however that is still good enough for us. Imo 0.8% is higher than 0.6%. But then we also have the issue with 0.6% being too low and 1.5% being too high. It doesn’t make sense but… yeah “RNG”👍

[@Snealer]

@@cookiewithlove2081 most people will just say “pull better”

[@cookiewithlove2081]

@@Snealer How does one pull "Better." I need enlightenment.

[@milmil5350]

⚠️ When there are CCs complaining that Kuro Games is "too generous" and "doesn't know how to make money", I can only see it as naivete. 😅 Y'all underestimate Kuro too much. People don't know this, but PGR had a toxic predatory monetization system at launch. It turned so many people away from the game that the devs changed their ways to try to be more f2p friendly. However, there was a large percentage of players who had such a bad experience with the game that they never gave PGR a second chance. ⚠️ Also, not every player is getting those 92 pulls per patch. It's deceitful. Casual players will have a difficult time being skilled enough (and/or having enough built characters) to get all of the rewards (just like in PGR). So it won't be skipping a month or 2 to guarantee a character for them. 😬 It'll probably be more months than that. ⚠️ So there will likely be a very steep drop-off in the playerbase for f2p casual players soon. The game will likely narrow down to hardcore casuals, dolphins, and whales. Furthermore, anyone who plays PGR knows how critically important signature weapons and dupes are. With the current amount of pulls per patch being so little and the content still getting more challenging, F2P's and casuals will have a difficult time obtaining the signature weapon. And unlike PGR, WuWa's dupes can only be optained by pulling in the gacha and are only available for a limited time. People are so naive to what's going to befall the f2p and casual playerbase over time. It may even become difficult for dolphins to deal with. All you have to do is imagine what PGR's game experience would be like if it had WuWa's monetization system in place. Seeing CCs say "it's enough pulls" or "it's too generous" is something that may come back to haunt everyone in the future. And it likely won't be too long before we start to see that happen. Good luck, everyone. 🙏

[@bang-naim]

Thank you for the experience from PGR. It all makes sense now.

[@deadshade442]

Better than genshin ever did at their launch or even the first few patches! Shu✝️ yo a$$ up!! Even if drought starts it already gave more than genshin ever could in it's entire lifetime..

[@tyriqueadams4326]

don't worry there will be more bugs means more apologems

[@almezamorra1021]

Yep, Im waiting for bugs. At least they are extremely generous with it.

[@Nunazac]

apolotrite* lol

[@Zyleace]

​@@NunazacYes let's forget what game and what the gems came from 😂

[@jugoso13v99]

@@Zyleacehuh?

[@Abuturab1]

@@Zyleace clash of clans??

[@St1mpy]

They should also just add the permanent event from pgr where, you can roll a dice daily and get standard cards from the dice. If you hit 3 times you get a standard pull. It also resets every week.

[@UggoBass]

I think 12.4k asterite and 16 lunite are good enough for v1.1 since I'm of the mindset that the gacha should be plying luxury rather than necessity. My actual concern at this point are the quality of SR/4* unit that are going to be introduced into the game given the utility of the current set in the general pool. I don't mind Sr/4* being more niche or weaker but I think no-niche SR/4* are put into gacha just to pad it out and lowers the chances of getting "more useful" SR/4*.

[@Pender-uq1lg]

I feel like hoyo has created a horrible standard in gatcha gaming at least when it comes to getting characters. It's making it the norm to essentially be a whale in this games which it shouldn't be. Take a game like nikke or brown dust 2 which is probably 2 of the most f2p gatchas out there and they have no issues making bank every month. Those games should be the norm in terms of summons and currency. Epic Seven even does it better while still having only a slightly better pull rate than wuthering waves, but still gives you tons of currency. I also don't like this FOMO these companies are creating by making EVERY single character limited outside of the initial heroes they release in the standard banner. I can agree with some limiteds here and there, but most units should go in the standard banners after they release so we don't have to wait god knows how long to pull for them again. Even in Epic Seven when they release a limited character if I only save for limited I can pretty much pity 1 or both limited units they release in a banner because I can get lucky with free summons daily or the random 70 plus they give us to get a regular 5 star unit.

[@Nudderbols]

In PGR every character was added to the standard (except crossover characters.) They'll probably settle for just copying Genshin instead of taking PGR's way better system though.

[@RanRan_11]

Those you mentioned are also low quality coomer bait games (at least compared to an open world with 3D characters). Also, I don't know about BD2 but in Nikke, the pull income is a lot but that's because there's no guarantee outside of using 200 gold tickets, which still takes quite a while to earn. There's also PVP/leaderboards which makes spending more enticing for whales, characters can go up to core7 which is a total of 10dupes, bunch of bundles/pop ups for people to spend more. Basically, the game encourages people to spend a lot in that game, which is not the case in something like Genshin/WW because the bundles they have are more for upgrade resources and not pulls.

[@seyrendante2048]

@@RanRan_11 And the thing with Nikke is that you could argue that the "acquisition of 1 character" is more or less guaranteed, but many people fail to see (especially people who don't actually play the game) that 1 character without a dupe most of the time just sitting pretty on the bench because of the steep power requirement on the later stages. Not to mention the lvl 160 barrier that has mixed experience depending on your luck.

[@theskywalker8416]

No they didnt actually. Look at all gacha games before Genshin, they all let you get the charaters, all of them but they all have a ranking system, pvp system, guild system where ppl compete with each other, they also make new server one in a while for mroe competition to push income In those game, f2p can play and have all characters but never gonna accomplish anything and being used as a "number" to make whales feel great when they are in top 10 for example. Nothing else In game like GI, HSR, WW, TOF... You compete against no one. You can freely enjoy the whole game with everything without paying a single cent and there are no competition. So selling character is the only (or the highest) income they can get. Thats why it works this way

[@Zythroxes]

They really didn't tbh, the rewards for big events are pretty bad like anniversary but every patch for f2p is like 54 pulls on a dead patch and 70 on a non dead patch. I don't think this is that bad really and a welkin will bump these by 20 which is only 5 dollars a month. Genshins anniversary definitely is the most lackluster though. Considering it's a single player game being able to basically grab a 5 star every patch as a f2p or come close to it is more than enough pulls, free to play players can save multiple patches and get c0r1 quite easily depending on the patches since sometimes there's a lot of pulls while others are very lackluster

[@ForTheViolence]

I mean, get a sub account. And buy the $5 monthly pass sometimes. If pulling is your entire life. If not you’ll be fine, it’s an action Gacha. You can be F2P and have plenty of fun.

[@klindonuggets5699]

I did this in genshin in the past now I'm doing this in WuWa. I want characters but I know I can't have everyone. My main has a monthly pass and BP and my alt is F2P. It somehow works since I can focus on different characters in different accounts. Note: I do not frequently explore much on my alt. I just do the dailies and spend the waveplates.

[@jugoso13v99]

@@klindonuggets5699im doing the same plus for my alt i got really lucky and got yinlin + verina in my first multi and got calcharo with the selector

[@klindonuggets5699]

@@jugoso13v99 good for you. Hope we win more 50/50s hehe

[@DairokutenMaoUwU]

Lol, if you think this is bad Genshin is 10x WORSE, even on their anniversary and lantern rite

[@marknavarro-tj3dd]

Kuro has been so generous already and this guys said "not enough" 1.0 and i got yinlin + weapon with 39% exploration 😂 even in hsr 1.0 it's not even close.

[@modniy9579]

​@@marknavarro-tj3dd You just got lucky, no need to flex

[@marknavarro-tj3dd]

@@modniy9579 mintpicker triggered 🤣 unlucky for you still stucked on a trash game

[@SM-tf3li]

You get more than 9 pulls per patch in Genshin.

[@DairokutenMaoUwU]

@@SM-tf3li Great! So we only need 9 patches to play 50/50 and get a Qiqi 😒

[@lonewanderer1249]

WUWA gave out way too many pulls that people are now forgetting what it was like when Genshin came out or HSR. Tho we got many apologems but in the end we did get them at least. I have never seen any gacha give out this many pulls and a 5 star character selector and having a in game lvl 45 reward as a 5 star weapon selector. I may have not played many gachas but I can't find anyone disagree with me either.

[@Axterix13]

I think, it is worth noting, though, that this likely costs them very little. At the end of the day, these are the standard banner characters, and they will likely be outclassed by the featured banner ones. The compensation five star, in particular, I think was a very savvy marketing move. If you were on the fence about the game, the appeal/fomo related to that likely pushed you over. Hoyoverse, on the other hand, isn't good at PR, especially the Genshin team. They could easily hand out standard banner wishes for the anniversary. Wouldn't be featured characters, so we'd still pull for those, but the F2Ps would still love it... free pulls, cons for four stars, maybe a five star weapon... But they don't care about generating good will.

[@Eighteenxray]

"I have never seen any gacha give out this many pulls" are young and just got into games or something? I remember back in the day where you could spend $50 on a game, and get ALL THE CONTENT. There are even korean gacha that give you guaranteed 5 stars and dupes basically every week. I seriously cannot believe you people are defending gacha's that are hyper predatory. Are you people even real? Is dead internet theory true? When they start doing this crap IRL, are you just going to be like, "well at least they gave us some crumbs, they couldve let us starve!" Absolutely ridiculous. I hope you are a bot, because if you are an actual person.... I just can't imagine that, for such a souless person to exist.

[@SadBoy-pr6zq]

I mean, the other stuffs are normal but im not really a fan of the "per patch" shop reset instead of "monthly". Like, that's pretty much a standard in most, if not all gacha games and a lot of players look forward to. That's a honestly a pretty weird decision on their part cuz I thought one of their main selling points is doing most stuff gacha games do but better. If they don't change that, then even I won't be able to defend them for it even though they've been giving a lot of free stuff rn.

[@MeryKeit]

92 limited pulls per patch with 80 pity is fine, HSR does the same and you don’t see people complaining about it. In Genshin tho you get 60-70 on average, which isn’t enough even for one pity - that’s the problem. If you lose your 50/50 as a f2p you can only get a single copy of a limited character in 2 patches which is usually several months worth of waiting…which isn’t worth it at all.

[@saheb00]

all im asking for is free standard pulls when ascending characters like in HSR AND GI

[@morbed4181]

After read some comments here, i notice that the pull rate theoretically are better than genshin, but we need to understand about how powercreep goes in this game that we still can't determine yet since it still 1.0 version, at least in genshin because how fked up they are before scaling the buff & dmg from early 4 star character like bennet,xiangling,xinqiu, atleast if you had them you gonna have easier time on doing abyss. Yet in WuWa, the 4 star character seem very lacking in term of buff & dmg which very concerning for f2p player in my opinion. *Please note it is not about the character collection, but how you can fully clear the content with what you have, and yes by content i mean Tower of Adversity is included.

[@reyxo4657]

Standard pull are actually pretty usefull As you said, you can throw them in the standard weapon banner which is also WAY more interesting to me than standard characters

[@zerulaw9118]

and do remember if you do not care about weapon passive getting just a sword and a gun from standard banner can carry you through the end of time because their sub stat is crit chance and that’s my plan…just getting a weapon of each type with crit chance substat and you never need to pull for any weapon ever again

[@modniy9579]

10 standard trash, thanks Kurogay

[@Spades-r9o]

It isn’t anymore agregious than Hoyo’s monetary systems . But that’s the part that honestly disappoints me . As someone with experience with a fair number of other gachas I don’t expect to get every character . I do expect one of 2 per patch or atleast every other banner . But at the same time I also have an issue busting my ass too hard to get there . I am of the opinion that a player shouldn’t have to login and commit 9 hours or bust their ass to get event rewards because not everyone’s a genetic freak . I did have an issue with some of the illusive realm gems requiring achieviment hunting .

[@Cyboroso]

Something to note that the OP haven't mentioned is that the illusive dreams , roguelike mode also give asterites and it seems that they will reset monthly/each patch, likely for us to get more rewards as it gets updated. Obviously its not alot in the long run but just wanted to add this info , i hope that they make it similar to HI3 and HSR where it resets weekly .

[@MagisterialVoyager]

well, in any way you look at it, one can always practice the skill of saving and self-control. 🤷

[@kerwinbaylon9424]

theyre f2p and they want every character lol

[@sfarmertoo]

This. Free to play players seem to always struggle with this. companies didnt make the game out of graciousness. You are NOT owed every character . smh

[@vincentluong7550]

There is definitely a balance to it and I think wuwa assuming what in the video is correct a good balance. You give your players too much, no one wants to spend money. However if you give rewards too little it risks making players feel not rewarded for their time.

[@vincentluong7550]

Look at how players are at genshin. As a good example of not giving enough rewards. Players constantly rage about not having enough rewards and that hsr is far more generous in comparison. Which led a ton of players to either quit or suck it up.

[@definitelynotahedgehog9461]

As an F2p player honestly people need to understand how to save up and not pull for everything. I have not pulled any limited character just because I wanted to know whoes on the next patch. I know leaks aren't always good, but a lot of the times it helps with planning Also i might actually consider breaking F2P given how responsive and generous they are.

[@loly6105]

those are called newbie f2p😂 they play gatcha they must not expect to get every single character that releases. how can the company make profit if they always wanted to make if free😂

[@highstudentproduction8195]

This exactly the feeling of the Gacha when i play PGR. Like it's true you cannot get every new character (unless you really that lucky) I need to save for some unit i want and such. Thankfully in PGR the waiting is not that long for the Banner character you want. Like when the first Bianca Veritas out, i didn't get her and i save up my pity, around 4 weeks? her banner appears again. Not sure how Wuwa banner work, but the thing about PGR is 60 Pull will get the character.

[@rikudouray]

Just get lucky should be fine 😂 save wise pull wise.

[@klindonuggets5699]

Yes! In addition, wait for reruns and focus on what you currently have.

[@vinny9500]

As someone who lost the 50/50 on the hard pity at 80 pulls. I really wish they would make the hard pity more favorable for the banner character.

[@kemaljanitra1694]

if the leak is true it's average like Genshin and Star Rail for f2p full patch is around 12k-13k unless it's a big patch could be 15k even without bp and monthly blessing, but yes it's not enough that's predatory gacha game for you haha

[@qingquelover]

pokke juat covered this vid W been watching you for a few months hope you blow up

[@mik0z474]

lets not make the same mistake as genshin, the rewards are indeed dog shit right now and i am a whaler. Call it however you want but the fact that the reward is ass has to be talked about.

[@Thaibiohazard123]

In my opinion, Star Rail handles this best. It gives you just enough free pulls if you skip 1 or 2 banners, you'll save enough for a guarantee. It's the sweet spot where f2p player can still enjoy (or encouraged to lightly spend), and whales still need to spend. On the other hand, with Wuthering Waves, at this rate, f2p player and light spenders will probably need to skip at least 4 banners to save for a guarantee, making it really difficult to plan ahead, and will most likely get burnt out of the game quick. I understand that you can't ask for everything as an f2p player. But they probably need to bump this up a notch if they even want light spenders to stay around.

[@Piccolololmao]

It's literally the same as HSR 92-127 in the video. Also soft pity is at 65.

[@Thaibiohazard123]

@@Piccolololmao The amount may be close, but from my experience with both games. HSR get you access to free pulls much easier. In Wuthering Waves, half the rewards are behind really difficult content that requires you to build multiple teams, and high level echos, which also requires months to do. Wherein HSR, most new events are straight up free stuff, if you just spend time a little on their stupid mini-game. I skipped 2 banners in HSR recently, and already make back 20k currency easy, and I don't even log in everyday. However, I gotta give it to Kuro. Their pity bar is very generous.

[@aria.e]

I used full 160 pulls to get Yinlin (lost 50-50 to verina), I was so angry and broke. I was so angry that after I finally got yinling I don't want to use her. I've accepted that I won't be getting anymore 5 stars for a very long time so I turn my interest to my 4 stars instead like sanhua, yanyan and chixia and ignore all of my 5 stars except verina and havoc.

[@athena7922]

lmaooo poor yinlin 😭 i'm at guaranteed pity 61 for yinlin after losing 50/50 at the 39th pull to verina.. idk if should keep pulling or wait for jinhsi instead lol

[@MLambdaman]

Time to switch to Zenless Zone Zero LOL.

[@astrogamerg2263]

Finally you addressed this not everyone is it’s was fun and all to be F2P but it won’t be easy to earn pulls from just playing even I have realised I’m gonna have to start spending $200 is equal around to 85 spins

[@Internetcockroach1]

Honestly the thing that sucks for me is that so many things cost waveplates. If they had the simulation training which is great for farming materials and the stuff you consume for overoworld bosses be different then I would be playing more instead of sitting and waiting for my waveplates to refill

[@progrockplaylists]

i am REALLY scared of upcoming content drought. considering the map on average is much less dense than in genshit.

[@tigerjr38]

I do feel like 1 single copy of a new unit costing 100-200$ if you hit pity or faily 50/50 feels a bit gross. Costs around $2,000 USD to max a unit. I spent around $800 to max a unit in ToF. Much more reasonable to me. Still expensive, but 2K is WILD

[@killerking2346]

WuWa had a lot of early, "we're sorry" pity pulls, I was already suspecting it to dry up hard. Is it still more generous than Genshin? Of course. Star Rail though? I'm not sure, the HSR events are always banging, while WuWa events have been very poor primo-wise, and it not being open-world makes it easier and faster to get map pulls.

[@sciencethygod]

Ya this is why I wish they stuck with the PGR way, where you get enough currency to get the S frame every banner, weapon if you get lucky early. And the A frames where farmable. There was also no bullshit 50/50, idk why they HAD to copy so much from hoyo...

[@prisciliaflora]

To make money... i guess.

[@UnreasonablyReasonable]

I love PGR but have you seen its revenue? It's sad.

[@djicash7055]

I think the main problem is because they put some heavy breathing banner ( yinlin - jinshi - chang li ) closely, without making any sacrifice character for male player to fill the gap maybe some husbando.

[@Aman_Mondal]

This was bound to happen people seem to not realise Kuro Games might give more free rewards and compensation but their actual earnable pulls is also relatively less compared to Any Mihoyo game

[@crypticcryptid4702]

Less pulls needed for characters and weapons though.

[@Beeeeeewwwww]

It's basically the same amount as genshin

[@Jxllen.]

tbh being able to hit hard pity and a bit more each patch is enough for me bc then at least right at the end you can decide whether or not you're gonna give that last $20-50 push for the character if you lost your 50/50 bc at the point you'd know if you're gonna get them or not in a sense

[@Ayayuda]

That's why I rerolled 58 times to get both S1 Yinlin and Jiyan with their sigs, the 5 star weapon selector in 2 pulls all before UL 30

[@athena7922]

58 times 💀 i can't imagine having that many emails or the patience to go thru the intro story that many times

[@fishyfish7158]

joke right?

[@Ayayuda]

@@fishyfish7158 Not a joke. Rolled for 10 days straight to get that one

[@Eighteenxray]

this is kind of funny, ridiculous but funny. Good way to stick it to kuro games and gacha games lol

[@Crusader_Eugene_the13th]

I would really like if they made most money from character skins (which will probably be added) rather than pulls. So you can almost have a full character collection while being low spender or f2p

[@yaroslavyevsieiev5890]

Most heartbreaing part was that you don't get rewarded for lvling characters Like in Hoyo games every charatcer is 3 free standart pulls

[@Navinc87]

Agree for the most part. The standard banner pulls is the one that feels pretty scarce once u've collect all the one time early game ones. The devs did give a lot for compensation, but once thats over it does feel a little stuck. I think its just a different feeling from genshin because it gave standard pulls whenever you level a character.

[@wutherer]

So true, even as a dolhin myself I couldn't pull for them all, and that's OKAY since that is how these gacha games work

[@dantemiles689]

You gotta admit tho gacha in itself is a bad greedy system that takes advantage of addiction. Which is NOT okay

[@wutherer]

@@dantemiles689 absolutely that's why it's OK to have a mindset of missing out on characters isn't the end of the world lol, gotta curb that addiction a bit, touch grass form time to time will def help

[@joaomarcoscosta4647]

Statistically, players get one 5* character per 55 pulls. Also, you can expect 2 out of every 3 characters you summon on the limited banner to be the featured character. This means an average of 83.5 pulls per limited character. Of course, this is just an average. You could get unlucky and need to go all the way to 160. Or you could get lucky and pull multiple copies of a limited charcter on your first 10-pull. However, assuming average luck, this means that f2p players can expect to get roughly one new 5* per version. (If they don't spend waveplates on the weapon banner) And small spenders can expect to get an average of 1.5 characters per version. (In other words, in theory, you would only need to skip one out of every 4 new characters) Again, this is just an average, so... In case there is a specific character you really want, it's best to prepare for the worst, just in case. ^^; But still, if most patches moving forward give as much currency as 1.1, things are looking promissing.

[@vatekanore3756]

This looks good, to be honest What's way too scarce right now is echo exp, i have no idea why out of everything this is the one resource they decided to make awful to get

[@reydez84]

Kuro is gonna stop listening to the babies soon

[@ranninotfromeldenring2832]

i dont think so, kuro has been great for years in pgr and i don't think they're gonna stop

[@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor]

It's best that the "babies" voice their concerns now instead of later. I don't miss the days where pity wasn't the norm. I will gladly take more summons but hey to each their own. Also usually cosmetics and echo/equipment grind is the true endgame spending.

[@noobscoopsies1100]

If that's what they are doing, then they just shoot them self on the foot, the entire reason most genshin player give this game a chance after Soo much trouble during launch is their generosity...

[@zamirroa]

In pgr we always get selectors and pulls. We get free new S shinny rank characters and even the most expensive skins. In two months we are gonna get Alisa Echo with her VFX skin, S rank character for free and skin too. Kuro the father

[@beastmode2990]

Its not that they are going to stop but free to play players need to understand that you cant get everything in a single summon😂😂😂😂

[@noct2750]

To be honest i dont mind at all theyre doing great job itz not easy to deliver such quality work, deserve to b valued

[@TophatBoar]

Personally it's mixed: there aren't many standard pulls and f2p players see much more value on the standard 5 star weapons atm, it has much more value than any other gacha out there imo and since the pity is guaranteed because god exists I guess, it's impossible to get the standard weapons. I am not f2p, I spent 116 euros for the first top up, bp and monthly pass, I can afford 16 euros per month and even more but I am reluctant on spending for characters in gacha games where the gameplay is often 10 minutes a day

[@Greenfield26]

Same here, usually end up spending just a bit every once in a while so I don't have to dig ground for chests like lot goblin. I already ended up with 4 5 stars and yians weapon without paying, so my launch was acceptable, not its wallet time

[@StraytheSkies]

The game just started lol.

[@PoPo-qp8zq]

Kuro 1 day after this: Ayo here are 2 events with more free pulls

[@loly6105]

i wont be running out of pulls .... if im skipping both banners😂

[@MarielCrystallie]

I think for the coral shop its just because they release the game at end of month , so they not gonna reset it at the 1st June since new player still learning the system... I think most game also do that if they just release something new at end of month , something that usually reset every month they will hold it until the next month(more than 30days) to reset instead

[@TANGER840]

Pull drought and it was calculated that the minimum we get from 1.1 is 92 pulls... Literally the same as hsr and double of the other mihoyo game

[@Eighteenxray]

It still boggles the mind that f2p continue to play hsr and the like. Truly slaves.

[@TANGER840]

@@Eighteenxray hsr is really good tho. Genshin on the other hand, i can see why people drops it

[@Waliant8349]

I am gonna save all my asterites until the next male character comes out… 😂

[@faridahamad1568]

even if i squint my eyes and look at only at one banner i still end up with 50/50 coin flip best case scenario. Man i wished they implement 100% banner for limited character also. but alas that just my poor man's dream.

[@KasKade7]

We just got another 10 pulls and 5 wave plates from mail. You really don't need dupes in this game to have fun or be strong. You can get pretty much who you want to play with. You also don't need 5 star weapons. 4 stars are great too. Most damage will come from echoes, anyways. There is also like 20k astrites in 1.0. Even more in 1.1. As F2p you just safe some pulls for new chars. Feels to me WuWa is alot less greedy than Genshin.

[@ixirion]

I think you are wrong about the 4 star weapons. for example Yinlin signature is 40% bettter than any f2p one or around 20% better than the free 5 star. Even 20% is a huge difference but 40% weakar dps char will feel bad. Aslo ppl from PGR share that its kinda expected to have a few dupes if you want your char to feel strong. its still specualtion what will happen ofc but for now Kuro seems ok

[@xprodigyx9069]

seen the same thing multiple times, first Genshin, then Honkai Star Rail, and now Wuthering Waves, also eventually they will say the same thing when Zenless Zone Zero is out. I am F2P, I have all the characters I really wanted, and never had a problem with gem management in any of those games which I have been playing all and will play ZZZ. it's all about patience and knowing how to pick and choose

[@shadow-xp2ib]

There are different kind of wishes for limited weapon and character banner so u have to keep asterites rather than just buying wishes to keep track

[@peterrj1973]

i am from the future, basically they fixed almost everything they said, they are going to increase the pulls per patch to 7 of each, which gives more pulls than genshin per reset even if there are 2 mothly resets, they are going to give 10 pulls of each as a mail reward so the permanent ones also, they are going to do a login event with 5 5 permanent and character wishes, and basically the events will probably give 800 astratite

[@janm5854]

Daily Astrite subscription + Astrite from daily activities is 10 Astrite short from 1 pull.

[@Belarhos]

If the math is accurate , that amount of pulls is pretty close to how much HSR gives every patch, so i'd say it's fine enough? i'm genuinely less concerned about pulls and more about everything else in the game (looking at you echoes)

[@fayyadh92]

I agree on reaching pity per patch as long as it doesn't surprise you with another limited character before the next patch... But right now it's fine I think since the new characters are only in a few numbers so the rotation is probably quick... Actually idk who else is a limited character other than Jiyan and Yulin... No leaks

[@schishne7546]

4:04 weeeell, kuro games other game called PGR was so generous that you'd be able to reach the 50/50 with every new character banner

[@zaraizara2794]

pull/wish story is normal. what not normal is the amount of mats that you need to upgrade echo. it is pure bullshit.

[@notdxmons642]

If you want to summon on every banner, have 3 accounts saving and alternating summons. As a f2p you just have do what you can

[@lonewolf-4lfe399]

I find it hilarious that this doesn't effect people who can't even log in...Thanks Kuro Game

[@_Bleh_83]

I think this is fine for me since I can save up in this patch for jinshi, also thank you verina for being early so I can get a guarantee jinshi and not suffer the 50/50

[@lethall6609]

It seems like in this game you will always lose the 1st 50

[@lethall6609]

I had 2 accounts, lost 50 on both, and a friend of mine also the same

[@Unknown-mf7wh]

@@lethall6609 I did loose 50/50 on Jiyan´s banner with Verina but I only did like 6 pulls lol. Made annother account and I win 50/50 Yinlin on 30 pulls... 2 people don´t make the rule, you two are unlucky, that´s it

[@ryusawakenji3469]

​@@lethall6609 Nah i get yinlin on 50x without off pity.Many of my discord friend that pull at the same day getting yinlin too without off pity,but there is some too that get off pity first.At the end of the day it is just a matter of luck,hence the name is gacha.

[@morbed4181]

@@lethall6609 it just pure luck tbh, i get encore on newcomer banner with hard pity around 40-50, but luckily get verina with 10 pull on newcomer select banner and jiyan on 10 pull (win 50/50), but then i not lucky enough for the weapon banner since it pity around 70-80 iirc, and right now my standard weapon banner stuck on 50-60 pity.

[@YosepRA]

That's why as a F2P, I have principles when it comes to all gacha I've played: - I won't pursue the Meta. - I will only pull characters who I absolutely love. - I won't pull on weapon banners. - I won't pull for dupes. I have survived Genshin Impact with my only primogems income were coming from dailies, events, and incomplete Abyss runs. The same goes for the other gacha games. Yet for many of those games, my character wishlist are chill. My Genshin primos has been collecting dust ever since Furina. I have 300+ pulls on Star Rail without playing any endgame content ready for Firefly. And for Wuthering Waves, I have 90 pulls waiting for Jinhsi. Free-to-play players who are stressed out because of gacha are players who can't handle the FOMO pressure and surpress their gambling addiction. 😉

[@Bleepoh]

one thing i must add is if you guys are coming from genshin release time and youve played it alot. youd know getting your first 5 star right away was pretty difficult and with this game we already have like 3 or more average. we literaly have 3-4x more than what genshin gave. so be grateful as f2p you wont see this in many other games. let kuro cook and fix up the optimisation and other things and well be set

[@senpairepublic3856]

- Gacha pity is 80 - Guaranteed Limited time weapon banner - Standard Character and Weapon banner are separated and you can choose which standard weapon banner you can get -You can buy copies of resonator through the currency you can get from pulling. And still complaining about the pulls about f2p. I am F2P but not complaining about not getting all the character every banner.

[@Suc-Chii]

F2P literally has the word "Free" in it, it means you cant always have it all.

[@Andrei-te1pk]

I dont care that much about pulls JUst give me more echo xp bcs its a paint to lvl up your echo and then switch it bcs the substats were not that good

[@cheyanne2001]

So, the usual plateau of resources from 1.0 patches. Im not gonna pull for a while personally cos i have pretty much everyone minus Encore and Yinlin and im busy fixing my Jiyan build to be a gacha addict. Sure, slowing down how much we get in one sitting is unfortunate but *normal* launch patches and Kuro giving summons as reaponses to game issues has them already spoiled

[@mightyquasar4870]

As a free player I still think we all have a good chance to get any limited character, like I got Yinlin on my 20th pull and her weapon Stringmaster on the first pull, so suffice to say Kuro games is giving everyone a chance, and to support the studio I will buy the Battlepass and it’s better than giving spending my money on Overwatch

[@sagaleuix2989]

Seriously as an f2p being able to get 1 5* every patch is awesome.

[@FuyuYuki92]

For me, if it's concerning or not comes down to if we will get 2 new characters every patch. Because if we do, I think what F2P players get is not enough. If they slow down a bit and release 1 new character per patch, it's enough imo. It also depends on if they plan on expanding the endgame, which would mean more rewards. I'll just wait and see.

[@MattRoadhouse]

This doesn't align at all with the released infographic from devs regarding new zone, quests, events and other stuff running from 1.1-1.2

[@Unknown-mf7wh]

wdym

[@Hhhh22222-w]

We should be getting more than 80 pulls if one does all the quests and 100%

[@MattRoadhouse]

@@Hhhh22222-w Yup. Seems to be the standard f2p bar set by successful IPs in the gacha industry

[@henit5075]

I got Jiyan and his signature weapon. Now, I will wait for an aero support, no matter how long it takes.

[@prophet4722]

You can convert the premium coral currency for pulls. As a f2p that is the best decision. Dupes are not worth losing out on possible 40 pulls for the next character

[@emhyr344]

As an f2p i dont think this is a problem we were already given tons of 5 stars because of the compensation enough to clear the story and TOA just need time to build them properly but i do understand other peoples concerns, but to be honest its not impossible to clear the mission/end game content with basic characters only I myself has experience with that so new characters are not really needed to clear content sure they may help make thing easier but not necessary

[@keme1770]

me chilling in the back skipping jinshi and changli waiting for an electro dps

[@aliceinthelandofdawn9727]

I felt the pull drought days ago and decided to just pull for male characters, that way I can easily save pulls since there will be patches that only have female limited such as 1.1

[@Cheezeeeee]

The gacha shop not resetting every month was a huuuuge bummer.

[@Barni2212]

I mean, it's still better than Gensh!t. You are lucky if you get 70 wishes from a patch there. So getting enough to reach hard pity is waaay better imo.

[@fishyfish7158]

shuddering waves lmfao

[@cattod.1617]

Let's not forget that this is Kuro Games, they listen to players. Who knows, they might reconsider things.