Incra TS-LS Table Saw Fence Features and Benfits

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@dobrovik
@dobrovik 4 жыл бұрын
The message in this video so perfectly fits a problem I have had for so long with a solution so perfect, I wish I could bottle the sensation up to feel like someone understands me at my day job.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@scpusher
@scpusher 6 жыл бұрын
I've had this fence system for a number of years and YES it is that accurate and YES it is that good. The ability to repeat cuts to dead-on accuracy amazes me every time. Installation is not quick and needs to be done carefully and not rushed. The installation instructions Incra supplies are top-notch. Very clear, easy to follow, and made for a successful installation with no having to fiddle around later. All of Incra's products, I have found, are this way. It's really a bargain for all that it does and does well.
@Simplecove
@Simplecove 8 жыл бұрын
Everything incra makes is top notch. You did an excellent job in this review and hope to see you review more of their stuff. After watching your review, if I had the room I would not hesitate to buy this setup.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean! There is always room for one more tool in your shop. HaHa
@christobar
@christobar 8 жыл бұрын
Guy I think you should get a commission for this sales job right here. Excellent video! I was always intimidated when I saw videos of people using this fence system, but no longer.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+chiggymonkey Thanks chiggymonkey. This was a sponsored video, however I truly love this system.
@blakeloke5586
@blakeloke5586 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. I ordered the 52" system a couple of months ago and can't wait for it to arrive. I'm retired now, but hear you loud and clear when you say ".....the engineering side of your brain goes into overdrive...." lol I've subscribed!
@tomm2519
@tomm2519 Ай бұрын
I had an Incra TS/LS for ten years before moving into a place with way less shop space. It had an attached router table, as well, so it would not have fit into a one-car garage, so I sold it. I bought a Laguna cabinet saw and a Wixey digital readout. The digital readout is easier to use, gives more reliable repeatability than the TS/LS, at a fraction of the cost.
@Dominatoruke
@Dominatoruke 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I have the old TS-III system. I've had it for about 30 years now. The heart and soul of my shop. Mine doesn't have the threaded rod and the micro adjuster on the TS-LS mode seems to be better but I'm still a happy camper.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 4 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@WayneBrownWoodworking
@WayneBrownWoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
Well said and well done Guy. I purchased the TS-LS 32 with the LS Super system about 2 years ago. Everything you said is right on the money. I was blown away by the quality of their products, but more so by the incredible accuracy and repeatability. Well worth the investment
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Wayne Brown Hey Wayne! I have seen the fence on your saw, so I knew you would be chiming in on how much you like it. I love mine too as you can tell by the video. Thanks for the nice comment!
@TheFalconJetDriver
@TheFalconJetDriver 5 жыл бұрын
I am picking up my TS LS Joinery System and the Incra Router Lift II and clean sweep tomorrow, I like the detail of your videos on this system. I wish you would make more.
@bigdogmn73
@bigdogmn73 8 жыл бұрын
I've got the same fence. LOVE IT!! No more checking the front and back of the blade to the fence...just set it and CUT. Right on every time!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
I'm with you! This fence is the s****!
@bigdogmn73
@bigdogmn73 8 жыл бұрын
I've done the same thing you did with creating the 1/32, 1/16 cut...and honestly I total woodworking moron. It's just super easy and brings your wood working game UP about 10 levels.
@ForwardGuidance
@ForwardGuidance 8 жыл бұрын
Woodworking moron.... me too!
@craftedworkshop
@craftedworkshop 8 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my TS-LS. Beats the stock fences on all table saws, no question.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. There is no way I could go back to a regular t style fence.
@KavanaghGTR
@KavanaghGTR 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, well presented, no waffle and no padding. Thanks
@mnikolew
@mnikolew 8 жыл бұрын
I've had one of these for the last seven or so years so I can say that Guy's review 100% accurate. I bought mine when I upgraded one of those awful pipe style fences on a Delta Contractor saw. I've since upgraded to a Jet cabinet saw. It came with with a Biesemeyer style fence that has never been used because I'll never let go of the Incra. (And yes, I have used a Biesemeyer on other saws.) What's more should you ever need it, their customer support is top notch. Nice review Guy!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark! I have had this fence for about 3 years now. It has changed the way I work, and how efficiently I can work. You know exactly how I feel.
@dclaghorn2
@dclaghorn2 4 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome piece of equipment, regardless of skillset. Newbies can cut with the confidence of a master. Love this!
@K27fan
@K27fan 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo! Ive watched the videos at Incra but you explain and show it better. I have a Delta unifence now, but its old and I want to completely redo my setup. I am going to build a mobile saw cabinet, get this Incra fence and also install the router lift etc where the left wing is on the saw. That will get me closer to the router without leaning over etc. Thank you
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dougnath2772
@dougnath2772 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Guy! I purchased the Incra fence based on watching your previous videos (kept seeing it in the videos) and I couldn't be happier! It has been a great system. I can probably say that my wife probably doesn't want me to watch any more of your videos because I bought the Grizzly jointer that you have also!!! Don't worry, I can't wait for the next video!! Keep up the great work!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
HaHa. Thanks Doug! It is an awesome system, isn't it?
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 8 жыл бұрын
This will be my next investment ( save money for) because I am doing the " bump and pray " method and it just drives me crazy not to mention the wasted wood factor. Thank you so much for the information I really appreciate it
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Thom! If you get one, you won't regret it.
@vikassm
@vikassm 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the metric system, halfs/sixteenths and thirty-seconds feel so much intuitive while working with wood. Great review, thanks!
@whitey211
@whitey211 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the price of my miter 1000HD I thought this system was going to be thousands of dollars. $420 is very reasonable! Thanks for a great video, this is now on my wishlist.
@ivanscountrymusicandcars2357
@ivanscountrymusicandcars2357 4 жыл бұрын
whitey211 exactly what I was thinking. They got some back on shipping but 530 out the door is pretty good.
@glenngulley1375
@glenngulley1375 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video presentation Guy! I've been using a incra miter 1000 for many years and just recently have seen how much more accurately I can work using products like these. I have a 54 inch biesemeyer style fence and am very impressed by your setup! Definitely can see this in my future
@tomhoyer2313
@tomhoyer2313 8 жыл бұрын
Incra can make anyone cut like a pro. I would like to see this on a sliding table saw. Great job Guy!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
This fence is the best add on accessory for the table saw if you want accurate easy cuts.
@thepoplarshop
@thepoplarshop 6 жыл бұрын
SOLD ! I'm going to order this system for my table saw.
@enzprintco.8625
@enzprintco.8625 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get it?
@j.5043
@j.5043 8 жыл бұрын
Best review I've seen in a while.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks J!
@motokmac
@motokmac 8 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, I live with the same torment as you....... the quest to make perfect cuts, at the correct size, that are perfectly square. This fence is clearly just the ticket, and I can appreciate everything it does, and how it does it so repeatably. Now, if I can just figure out how to get it on my Hammer K3, and/or how to get one for the sliding table side of the K3, I would be in heaven. BTW, that's a curious shaped wound on your wrist..... hope that didn't come from a shop incident.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
HaHa. Precision is a disability sometimes in the shop. I don't how you would attach it to a European style saw. It is an interesting idea though!
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! answered all the questions I had about this fence. Also, I didn't know about the router fence attachment. Thanks!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Make Build Modify Its a great system and it is one of the best investments I have made for the shop.
@beastlybombers
@beastlybombers 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. I will definitely be getting an Incra fence system for sure
@jakeqwaninne8502
@jakeqwaninne8502 4 жыл бұрын
that's the most beautiful fence i've ever seen
@HubertPounall
@HubertPounall 2 ай бұрын
Its a great Idea will solve a lot of problems on the table saws of whatever .models!
@stevecollins9450
@stevecollins9450 8 жыл бұрын
Great review and instruction, Guy. This always looked like a fantastic system, but after watching this I know it is!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Steve Collins That s is a great system. Thanks for watching Steve,
@sumosprojects
@sumosprojects 8 жыл бұрын
Incra have very accurate products & not overly expensive, I don't have this but admire your demonstration on it 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dirk!
@BrianMcCauleyDesign
@BrianMcCauleyDesign 8 жыл бұрын
Nice work Guy. I've got the same system and love it. Worth every penny.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian! Yeah, it's awesome.
@SQLKC
@SQLKC 6 жыл бұрын
Will be getting this system soon the 10-12 weeks on the order is very bad. Incra hire more people!
@ShaunBrownintheworkshop
@ShaunBrownintheworkshop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guy, now I feel like I really need this. I have been screwing around with a stock fence since 1993. I guess it's time for an upgrade. Thanks for another great video
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shaun! It's a great system, and you won't regret making the investment in it.
@ItsGoodEnough4GovernmentWork
@ItsGoodEnough4GovernmentWork 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I actually have the incra fence system and love it. But had forgotten all the other cool things it does and had only been using it for making precise rip cuts. Thanks for the reminder of all the other cool things this fence can do!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin!
@JackbenchWoodworking
@JackbenchWoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
Great demo, Guy! I didn't get it until now. Very impressive!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Charlie! Thanks!
@ecrusch
@ecrusch 8 жыл бұрын
I have a few Incra products and love them all. Someday I'd love to own that fence system. Thanks for showing how cool it is Guy.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Eric Rusch Sr It's a great piece of equipment. I can't imagine being without it!
@fredastaire6156
@fredastaire6156 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus!? This fence is out of control incredible!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, huh?
@krtwood
@krtwood 8 жыл бұрын
You make a good case for it :) You can take out some of the bump and pray for small adjustments with a dial indicator but that's no good for large adjustments. Plus my fence has a handy random adjustment feature when you lock it down which makes the whole dial indicator experience tons of fun.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin! I wonder if Incra will add a randomizer to their line soon?
@tsolinc
@tsolinc 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. I've looked at this off and on and just placed my order for the metric version. Now I just need to wait patiently 5-6 weeks to get it.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KSFWG
@KSFWG 8 жыл бұрын
Great presentation about the TS-LS fence, Guy. I have Incra's 1000HD Miter gauge and I love it. If I had a better saw, I would have the TS-LS fence on it.
@Dysl3xicDog
@Dysl3xicDog 8 жыл бұрын
You can use the incra fence on almost any saw. Then if you upgrade your saw you can move the fence to your new saw.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave! I really love this fence, well worth every penny.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed that's what I did. When I got my new TS, I ordered it without the fence.
@kenwillis7934
@kenwillis7934 8 жыл бұрын
I have the LS-25 on my router table and love it. The table saw fence is on my want list
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Ken Willis It's not for everyone, but I love it!
@nevermindthebull0cks
@nevermindthebull0cks 8 жыл бұрын
I have been using the incra fence for 3 years now. It is very accurate, BUT it takes up more room than any other fence I have seen. If you have the room, great. If you don't, maybe see if you can relocate your saw or use a different fence. My rails are quite a bit longer than the ones in this video, I can cut 60". When it is set up for this cut the incra is 90ish inches off the side of the blade.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You have to have the room off of the right side of the saw for the arm to extend. I have also over the years gotten used to bringing the fence back up to the blade when I am done with a cut, so I don't accidentally bang into it.
@nevermindthebull0cks
@nevermindthebull0cks 8 жыл бұрын
I have thought a lot about this. I think the Incra is nice, but I also think it is not necessary and takes up too much room. I was looking at the very super cool tools fence and I think it looks very handy. I'm keeping my Incra setup on the router table though. I bought a shaper and power feeder a while back and use it way more than the router table at the moment. I got an extra power feed base and drilled my tablesaw top for it. Makes batching rail and style material go pretty nice.
@dakotamax2
@dakotamax2 7 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a 32" setup for the micro-adjust and repeatability feature. If I had a production shop with a dedicated 8' long outfeed table I'd buy the 52". I use a panel-saw and a demountable cutting table for breaking down sheet goods.
@chuckhart8970
@chuckhart8970 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Guy....I just have to save my pennies up to buy this one day. Thanks for the walk through
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Chuck Hart Thanks for watching and glad you like it Chuck,
@GarageWoodworks
@GarageWoodworks 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice. I could definitely use one. Instead of the 'bump and tap', I've been using a clamped nut and threaded rod to push the fence when high accuracy is needed (i'm sure you've seen these DIY adjusters), but the INCRA looks like it would be more convenient.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+GarageWoodworks Thanks Brian! I've watched the video you did (you did do one, didn't you?) on your micro adjust system. This goes way beyond that with being able to do repetitive cuts. It truly is set it to the mark, and make the cut knowing it is exactly the dimension you want. It has changed the way I work, and couldn't imagine being with it.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+GarageWoodworks Thanks Brian! I've watched the video you did (you did do one, didn't you?) on your micro adjust system. This goes way beyond that with being able to do repetitive cuts. It truly is set it to the mark, and make the cut knowing it is exactly the dimension you want. It has changed the way I work, and couldn't imagine being with it.
@GarageWoodworks
@GarageWoodworks 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I made one. I only break it out when really necessary. The INCRA definitely looks pretty tough.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
It is a sexy b****! HaHa. And there is some backlash you have to deal with, as on anything that involves a lead screw. Typically 4 or 5/1000"
@WasimBarri
@WasimBarri 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Guy. Just one question before I order. Exactly how much space do you need from the right end of the rail when the arm is fully out for maximum rip.
@hypnolobster
@hypnolobster 8 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to get the Incra fence, but I don't have a lot of width in my shop and couldn't really handle that extra bit of fence poking out into the rest of the shop when I'm shuffling around between tools. Ended up with the VSC Tools fence and Wixey positioner. It's amazingly accurate, but definitely still involves bumping the fence around, just with a DRO :)
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
+Kirby Weldon Hey Kirby. That is something I thought about also before I pulled the trigger in it. After living with it a while, you quickly realize most of your cuts on the saw are under 12" or so. If you need to move it all the way back to use something like your sled, you get used to moving the fence back in so you don't bump into the carriage. It takes getting used too, but the benefits of the fence outweigh a few changes in method.
@ObiBassoholic
@ObiBassoholic 8 жыл бұрын
You just sold me on this fence! Wife won't be to happy. :)
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
HaHa. Thanks!
@mwils51
@mwils51 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have waited to get mine, I bought the original incra table saw fence system when they first came out. It had many issues. I contacted the inventor at that time about my concerns and next thing I knew the TS II system came out that fixed many of the issues I had complained about and they have continued to greatly improve the system, but I am stuck with my mediocre old original system for now.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike. I am not familiar with the original system. I took a look at the TSII and the TSIII and they look very similar to the current model with the exception of the positioner itself. Is it possible to upgrade a few parts to make it current? Have you contacted Incra to see of this is possible without replacing the entire system?
@mwils51
@mwils51 8 жыл бұрын
GuysWoodshop Thanks for the idea! I could have a decent system if I could replace the 1 1/4" tubular steel rails that came with the original TS with the aluminum extrusion on the current systems. That is by far the biggest issue because the original fence just rolled along the top of the rails and doesn't clamp to them in any way. That causes front and back movement of the fence unless I manually clamp it down front and back every time I move it, and there is not always a place to easily do that with the underside of my Delta Contractor saw . I don't see anywhere that they sale just the rails. And I would need everything to attach the current system to the rails. I was wondering about just buying something like this off Ebay: www.ebay.com/itm/72-T-Slotted-Framing-Extrusion-80-20-1515-72-/222274523876?hash=item33c09812e4:g:mIgAAOSw4shX-DpB It looks like I might be able to modify/cut the existing rail mounts to work. It also looks like the incra jig should mount right to the 1 1/2" extrusion with no issue, so I would just need to figure out a way for the front/back of the fence to tighten down to the extrusion.
@Gomethog
@Gomethog 7 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very thorough and high quality video. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do a nice job. I think you sold me!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@wyattwalls5120
@wyattwalls5120 6 жыл бұрын
Getting a jet table saw with a leeson 5hp motor and one of these fences, only for 650 very excited
@VROne111
@VROne111 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for raising the bar
@doremifabrications320
@doremifabrications320 6 жыл бұрын
I am a huge Incra fan as a user of the router table system. This table saw fence looks like it is equally wonderful, however, it does not look like it has the ability to work where the fence is to the left of the blade. Is that correct? (like for bevel cuts, its much safer (for right tilting saws) to have the fence on the left so the work is not wedged between the blade and the fence.)
@woodbridgeworkshop3615
@woodbridgeworkshop3615 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! You make a strong argument for upgrading!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! I just posted a code in the description for 10% off the system. You'll love it!
@HubertPounall
@HubertPounall 2 ай бұрын
what is the cost of these Fence?
@jennyboles1168
@jennyboles1168 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Guy! What a great system! Incra makes such high quality amazing pieces, I love all the ones I have!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jenny! This fence has changed the workflow in my shop completely. Great investment.
@bobleeswoodshop7919
@bobleeswoodshop7919 8 жыл бұрын
I love my Incra miter gauge . I'm learning new things every day Thanks Guy love the video Regards BobLee
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Bob! Thanks!
@donnymcarter
@donnymcarter 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice Guy! An awesome description and presentation! Thanks so much!!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Donny! Thanks for watching and the nice comment!
@nukebert1
@nukebert1 Жыл бұрын
At about 9 minutes in, you were talking about fitting a drawer panel that was 13/64 (I think). You made 1 cut then advanced the fence 1/16”. Then you grabbed a handful on the micro adjust knob. You needed 5/64”. How many clicks is that? thnx
@SL1800
@SL1800 8 жыл бұрын
Good video Guy and I couldn't agree more, love my Incra fence.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@AKDanMusicMan
@AKDanMusicMan 3 жыл бұрын
That bolt on the end of the rail I assume is a stopper for the fence? If you removed it, the fence could continue off the rail unobstructed? I'm wanting to get the 32" model, then get another set of 32" rails to attach to a mobile cart so I could extend the width to 64" by pulling the other cart up to my main workbench. Do you think that would work? I have limited space and only have 32" in my garage for storage, but I could roll another cart next to it when I wheel the mobile workstation into the middle of the garage if that makes sense.
@shineriseliu7104
@shineriseliu7104 4 жыл бұрын
SOLD ! I'm going to order a table saw for this system!
@DasAlbatross
@DasAlbatross 6 жыл бұрын
I would only say this about the fence system: If you get the long rails it takes up a LOT of space in your shop. the rails are always hanging out there, no matter where the fence is set. And the beam that the fence rides on can stick out too. It's an amazing fence system and I love it but it's something to keep in mind if you have a small shop.
@kenhunter7689
@kenhunter7689 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I have recently bought the LS Positioner for my router table and absolutely love it. I still have some calibration to go as I bought the Wonderfence version in metric (I live in Australia). The metric version is a bit of a challenge, but the challenge is not insurmountable. I am now about to purchase the Table Saw version and I have decided on the short version, mainly for space considerations, but also because my main focus is fine box making. The LS system means I can take that to a whole new level. I considered converting to a router/table Saw combination but decided against it as it would restrict my workflow.
@mfwoodshop
@mfwoodshop 8 жыл бұрын
Well done Guy I'm Sold. It sounds like a lot easier to setup then i then I thought.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! If you do, let me know and I'll help you set it up.
@takeniteasyfriend
@takeniteasyfriend 6 жыл бұрын
Repeatable. Thanks for the demo!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jamespolucha6911
@jamespolucha6911 2 жыл бұрын
Will this fit on my old delta cabinet saw ? And what is the price for this? Thanks for the video
@OneWoodAuwoodworking
@OneWoodAuwoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
That's great I have wanted one of those for a long time for my saw
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warren! Definitely worth the investment
@BuiltByChris
@BuiltByChris 5 жыл бұрын
I just got mine, and I love it.
@gpcookster
@gpcookster 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Guy, but why don't you tighten down the black knob on the end of the fence after each adjustment? I thought you always had to do that.
@magnimania199
@magnimania199 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for a great video! Is it the XL version of this system in the video?
@vbaspcppguy
@vbaspcppguy 3 жыл бұрын
5 years on, would you still recommend this fence? About to pull the trigger on it, but I'm on the fence simply because of how it sticks out when cutting something wide, cramped shop.
@robbrown6667
@robbrown6667 4 жыл бұрын
Good Video. How do you use this if your router is installed into the right-hand MDF side table?
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 3 жыл бұрын
Simply flip the assembly around
@tamaselkan8902
@tamaselkan8902 8 жыл бұрын
great demo Guy, I hope that Incra is going to honor it somehow!
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tamas! Incra did sponsor me for this video, and are going to use it on their own website. Absolutely wonderful people working there!
@tamaselkan8902
@tamaselkan8902 8 жыл бұрын
+GuysWoodshop that's great news Guy, congratulation!
@akwekful
@akwekful 6 жыл бұрын
What’s it like to fit to the table of the table saw? Surely it needs drilling and tapping of the table? Not that that can’t be done, but might be tricky drilling large accurate holes into the side of a cast iron table?
@rashidtayidi1423
@rashidtayidi1423 4 жыл бұрын
I have an old Delta contractor saw which I want to upgrade either with an Incra fence and router table saw combo or totally replace it with a SawStop combination TS / router table. Aside from the repeatability of the Incra and safety of the SS, which option provides the most accuracy and ease of use? Thank you.
@meanders9221
@meanders9221 8 жыл бұрын
Nice review and demonstration, Guy, thanks. Both accuracy and precision -- what more could an engineer or someone with an engineering type brain possibly want?
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michael! It's a great system. The only thing would better if came with the saw...
@oldmanpottering
@oldmanpottering 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Guy, first time viewer after I found your podcast, very informative video and ad a beginner woodworker at the young age of 57 I find myself trying to make more jigs than projects and that p***es me off. I'm interested in spending some cash so I can get on and make some projects and I believe this set up would be very useful, what is the extra wing off your table saw and is that needed to use the Incra fence? My table saw has only 2 cast iron wings. Thanks again and look for my donation to Patreon for the podcast.
@tooljunkie555
@tooljunkie555 8 жыл бұрын
as always thanks for the informative video! that is an AWESOME system.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! It is an awesome piece of equipment. The best investment I have made in the shop.
@tooljunkie555
@tooljunkie555 8 жыл бұрын
+GuysWoodshop if i had a table saw worthy of it id definitely make the investment but ,,,,its not..haha
@ZaarsShed
@ZaarsShed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I noticed the (fresh?) scar on your right wrist - is it from the table saw?
@Yolanka1966
@Yolanka1966 8 жыл бұрын
It's awesome . I'm going to buy it. Thank's for the video.
@MartyBacke
@MartyBacke 8 жыл бұрын
That was a great video Guy. If only I needed a new fence, I'm pretty sure I'd get this. The only downside for me is that I tend to store stuff on the table extension which I wouldn't be able to do with the this. It looks like you could get deflection at the ends of the fence since the attachment is only in the middle, but I assume that doesn't actually happen. I probably shouldn't have watched this video because now I'll be sad when I use my fence :-(
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marty! I, like you thought of that. But after a while, you just get used to not putting things on there. I hung a drawer underneath the extension where I keep a lot of stuff now. Regarding deflection, if you are pressing that hard against the fence to deflect it, you need to be looking at your technique. There is none that I have ever seen. There is a video out there that talks about the deflection of this fence. Do a search for "Incra TS-LS review" and it should pop up. He broke out a really good dial indicator and did some tests. Thanks for watching!
@MartyBacke
@MartyBacke 8 жыл бұрын
I agree about not pressing hard against the fence, but some amount of force is necessary. If the fence holds up to reasonable forces (which it does), it's a winner all away around. Still wish you hadn't made this video ;-)
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
HaHa. There is no notable deflection, I have never had an issue. I am working with the nice folks at Incra right now to see if they can come up with a coupon code for the fence. I'll be sure to keep you in the loop. And you can thank (or curse me) me later...
@markmueller8140
@markmueller8140 8 жыл бұрын
Marty, the ends of the fence can also be locked to both the infeed and outfeed rails if desired. The availability of 3-point locking makes it more rigid than any single-locking fence when necessary (not often, given that the pressure against the fence is normally focused in the middle, right where the fence is backed up by the big sliding carriage).
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Good point Mark. That is something I glossed over in the video. Darn it! HaHa.
@blackemmons
@blackemmons 8 жыл бұрын
Great review Guy. I'm been looking at this fence for a long time. Now I'm ready. I've read that the 32" model can do more that 32" if you move the rails to the right. Is this correct? I have a PM66 and the router would naturally go on the right side(where the wooden filler is from the operator position). How does the fence work in this case? ................ or does it? How much aggrivation to mount this system to a PM66? Is it a simple unbolt/rebolt system? JimE
@rhuynh
@rhuynh 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Guy - first of all love your stuff and your knowledge and love your podcast w/ Woodshop Life. I know this video is a bit old but how did you set up that table extension wing (black) in the video and connect it to the fence rails.
@10bz6d6
@10bz6d6 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for the informative video.
@massiedesign7275
@massiedesign7275 5 жыл бұрын
Great review I'm definitely getting one, one day
@neilyeag
@neilyeag 8 жыл бұрын
Ha, bump and pray every day! For sure like all of Incra stuff, this is 100%
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was at a friends a couple weeks ago doing some work in his shop, and I tell you, I missed my fence!
@dougprentice1363
@dougprentice1363 3 жыл бұрын
I have the old TS system that uses the plastic racks instead of the threaded rod. It's still like new after 20 plus years.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Incra fence. Can't imagine the saw without it!
@JSH1515
@JSH1515 4 жыл бұрын
What are the vertical elements at the end of you fence on the positioned side and near the end of your cast iron table on the positioner side?
@jeffjones5257
@jeffjones5257 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! If Incra is not paying you as a salesperson they should. Easy to sell something your are passionate about.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really believe in this product, as you can probably tell :)
@rusticcountryflags7174
@rusticcountryflags7174 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Guy, can you use the saw fence in conjunction with the Incra saw sled or do you have to remove the fence completely from the saw table?
@kylecarson2395
@kylecarson2395 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, I am debating getting this fence because my engineering brain cant help but question my current fence. The only issue is that I dont like how far the positioner sits over the table when you are making full length rips. What would the downsides be of using the 17" positioner instead of the 32"? Seems like you could move the positioner right and left on the rails very easily and just have positive stops for different zero points.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 99% of the time, I am only setting the fence back 12" or less, so the arm doesn't sit over the edge of the saw that much. My shop set up allows me to have the postioner the full 32" over the edge, so it's not an issue. When I'm done making the cut, I simply pull it back in. I guess you could buy the system and put the 25" or the 17" positioner on it and use the positive stops for the larger cuts, but then you wouldn't be able to really use the incremental scale as easily. It may be more trouble than it's worth.
@alland1241
@alland1241 4 жыл бұрын
How often do you bolt it down to the side rails, or do you find its fine without fixing it down, I ask because I have the router table setup and was thinking about using it on my saw but I read that its not really a good idea but notice your not fixing it down and only using the rails to move it across to the other end of the table
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 4 жыл бұрын
I never slide the assembly over since I dont have the router insert.
@alland1241
@alland1241 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuysShop Just behind the main fence on the operators side there is a screw to bolt it down to the rails have you ever needed to use it or is it stable enough without
@spottoms
@spottoms 8 жыл бұрын
Guy... My wish was granted! Thanks for the video. I know you showed everything but just to double check , you don't have to (or you don't) lock down the fence to the back or front rail before cuts?
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Joel. You do not have to lock down the fence to make cuts. The only time you might want to is if you are using feather boards attached to the fence. I have had the fence system for 3 years and have never found it necessary yet. There is very little if no notable deflection in the fence under force. Locking the front and back of the rail prevents it from being raised up in other words.
@MrRahluv357
@MrRahluv357 8 ай бұрын
Can you use this on a saw stop jobsite saw?
@marcgagnon4389
@marcgagnon4389 8 жыл бұрын
I love this system, my only issue is the space it takes on the right side of the table saw if you need to do a wider cut. In other words, if your table saw is not set up kind of in the middle of your shop or at least around 36 inches away from a wall, amI right?
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc, you are absolutely correct. My shop allows for such a placement of my saw, some do not. I just measured the overhang, and it's 30" for my model. If your shop layout can handle it, it is well worth every penny.
@trainwon5699
@trainwon5699 5 жыл бұрын
Incra system is awesome thanks
@robertspina4503
@robertspina4503 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Incra 1000 Ls the adjustment screws for the miter slot are extremely hard to turn is that normal
@anthonyacciani7853
@anthonyacciani7853 8 жыл бұрын
With that Incra TS-LS rail between your table saw and outfeed table, what is the distance there? I'm trying to build a workbench around my table saw (have not ordered my Saw Fence System yet) and I need to know the width of that rail so my outfeed table doesn't get in the way for when I install the Incra fence.
@robertw.1499
@robertw.1499 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, just bought the Bosch GTS 10 XC table saw. I see you have extended your saw's overall surface area using the Incra extruded aluminium tracks. How did you fix them to the saw? The system looks really effective and would invest the money if I could effect the necessary changes to my saw. Thanx
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert, I looked at the compatibility chart here incra.com/info/TS-LS_FenceSystem_RouterTableCompatibility.pdf and didn't see your saw listed there. I would recommend emailing Mark at Incra's tech support mark@incra.com or giving them a call at 1-888-804-6272. Mark is awesome and can help answer any questions you might have fitting this system to your Bosch saw.
@jeffb9914
@jeffb9914 8 жыл бұрын
Great review...maybe you can help. I am striving to create a similar setup as you with the exception of having my router added to the right-side table saw extension (where your black extension wing is located). In your opinion, do you think that if the based is moved as far right as possible (to the edge of the black extension wing) and the fence is moved as close to the base as possible, the Wonder Fence (when installed) would interfere with the router bit? Thanks in advanced.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff. I am not 100% sure. It might, however it will severely limit the amount of space between the fence and the bit. That might be a question to ask the tech support team at Incra.
@doulos5322
@doulos5322 4 жыл бұрын
you can tell this guy is having too much fun
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 4 жыл бұрын
I am!
@a88dev
@a88dev 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how easy is the actual install of the fence system. did it require any drilling into the table saw leafs for the mounting hardware or how was it done?
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 8 жыл бұрын
Installation is pretty easy. Getting the fence dial in at the start can be a little finicky, and it takes a couple hours to set it up right. But once installed, it works like a dream. It didn't require any drill on my Powermatic PM2000. The mounting brackets are slotted so you can use the existing holes, and adjust the brackets up or down from the top if you need to. Go to incra.com and get the install instructions, they lay it all out with really clear, concise instruction.
@befmx31
@befmx31 7 жыл бұрын
Guy, once you have your fence zeroed and then for some reason you have to use the micro adjuster for something, do you need to re-zero the saw fence again? Or you zero out the fence on a routering project, when you go back to the saw do you have to re-zero the fence? Thanks.
@GuysShop
@GuysShop 7 жыл бұрын
Once it is set to zero, it is fine. Maybe once a month I re zero the system just for me.
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