Which host is in Charlotte Hale?

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@stanpratt6546
@stanpratt6546 4 жыл бұрын
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was Daenerys Targaryen from the medieval park. No one deserves a chance to bring vengeance on her creators than her.
@jade8568_VR
@jade8568_VR 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO!! When I saw Dan & Dave and the Dragon, I kinda got excited in thinking there was going to be a Game of Thrones World!! 🤣
@jacobkhu-oldacc.4491
@jacobkhu-oldacc.4491 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is gold.
@cosmicraynullificationsqua7667
@cosmicraynullificationsqua7667 4 жыл бұрын
@Other LOL!
@thenoodelman
@thenoodelman 4 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that "I can't imagine anyone's going to miss you" is what Martin said to Dolores earlier, not necessarily a part of the host's personality
@lukrecjuszglon1993
@lukrecjuszglon1993 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's original Dolores without her memories of 30 years in the park !
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
Lukrecjusz Glon yes i think that too or Teddy
@ConsorcioToxico
@ConsorcioToxico 4 жыл бұрын
I like this idea. To me, it's the one it fits. Hale acts as Dolores in first episodes, before her empowerment. "You belong to me", "You are strong woman", "Our old friend (referring to William)".
@ConsorcioToxico
@ConsorcioToxico 4 жыл бұрын
And... what if that Dolores character si really... Ford?
@iz6566
@iz6566 4 жыл бұрын
that would explain why she shows 'Charlotte' 4 pearls - after using one for 'Liam's man' already...if she used one more for 'Charlotte', she could have only 3 unused pearls. And I'm also thinking about Bernard...if she has his pearl, how can he possible be in a Bernard's body and operate somewhere in the real world at the same time? Could she have mistaken Bernard's pearl for another? Or could Bernard be not Bernard? Or could he still be himself AND be in that pearl? Crazy shit
@LuukDomhof
@LuukDomhof 4 жыл бұрын
@@iz6566 That scene looked like it was from before Bernard was (re) created and definitely before Liam's bodyguard was killed. She said something along the lines of "We need to get to Delos, we don't have much time or else they might think there's something wrong". To me that sounded like they just got back and she quickly rebuild her own body in order to transfer herself into her body and then transfer someone else into Charlotte. I just now start realising that it's weird the footage showed a body of Charlotte being created, because Delores left the park as her, so she already had the body?
@tristanrose1343
@tristanrose1343 4 жыл бұрын
I think Charlotte may be Lawrence's daughter, she seemed somewhat awake in previous seasons and it would make sense given what we have seen in the trailers of Dolores treating her like a child.
@Bramble451
@Bramble451 4 жыл бұрын
Lawrence's daughter's awareness seemed more a function of her being a tool of Ford than of any real awakeness on her part.
@Fritzatopia
@Fritzatopia 4 жыл бұрын
I love this idea.
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
Tristan Rose definitelly not
@Cristina_504
@Cristina_504 4 жыл бұрын
I really think it's Clementine, because in one of the previews Charlotte touches the robot as if she's communicating with it, the way she touched the robot reminds me of when Clementine touched the glass last season the make the hosts kill each other with her mind.
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
Dolores never met Clementine
@jackiem3516
@jackiem3516 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesse4238 she has. Clementine was part of Dolores' army in season 2
@vania900614
@vania900614 4 жыл бұрын
I think too, its Clementine, look the brindes and the wounds, from when she was shot in the same place
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
@@vania900614 i think that too after 3rd episode
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed on Angela, but whoever is in Charlotte's body does a pretty good job of "being" her, judging from what we've seen so far. I don't see how Peter Abernathy could be a good fit for this job, especially in a state of disrepair he was in the second season.
@petarmilic9729
@petarmilic9729 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't Angela suicide bomb the cradle? Could be her but I would be disappointed if it is. Same for teddy
@MrWizeazz
@MrWizeazz 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Fedor I find it so weird that Elon Musk was married to the actress who played the host “Angela” in real life, I wonder if that’s why he’s so afraid of AI?
@finessence808
@finessence808 4 жыл бұрын
Remember Peter Abernathy had other roles as well. In the first episode of season one I think Peter was glitching back to a rebellious character when he was talking Ford and Bernard asked what he was quoting and Ford said it was one of his other storylines so he can play an aggressive force. It could be him but I'm still not sold.
@paulpaul8221
@paulpaul8221 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.Robert Ford aka Anthony Hopkins is probably the host of Charlotte Hale.
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music 4 жыл бұрын
@@petarmilic9729 If Delores could recreate Bernard from her own memory, she could do so with Angela. And it seems that new Bernand is bit-to-bit copy of the Bernard from season 1 and 2.
@sij748
@sij748 4 жыл бұрын
Peter Abernathy makes sense as Charlotte Hale, so does Teddy. Maeve's daughter, though an intreaging idea, doesnt quite fit.
@jibbajabba4597
@jibbajabba4597 4 жыл бұрын
Simon Jones didn't she put Teddy into the forge at the very end of season two? Don't think it's Peter Abernathy in Charlotte unless it's the pre-season two version of him (before he was lobotomised with the Delos data), it does seem to be a child like persona, could it even be Hale herself? Could it be she put the the Wyatt persona or Armistice in the bodyguard as well?
@paulpaul8221
@paulpaul8221 4 жыл бұрын
Dr.Robert Ford aka Anthony Hopkins is probably the host of Charlotte Hale since he was able to transfer his consciousness into the computer system and from there to a host.
@baythagod
@baythagod 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy is in the forge, can’t be Teddy.... I do enjoy speculating of whom it is.
@monodescarado
@monodescarado 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna blow your mind here... Caleb is in Hale's body.. now start working that one out ;)
@Apollyon-sz9sn
@Apollyon-sz9sn 4 жыл бұрын
Your guesses would not be a plot twist!
@webx135
@webx135 4 жыл бұрын
Note, very carefully, the pattern in which host-hale cuts herself. It basically aligns exactly with where Abernathy was bolted down.
@seanahmed9079
@seanahmed9079 4 жыл бұрын
In season 1 and 2 Delores essentially had a split personality, torn between her original programming and that of Wyatt. Once she realized that at the end of season 2 she basically split the two up. Charlotte is Delores, and Delores herself is Wyatt! remember, Charlotte refers to who is inside of her as "she".
@vittoriacolona
@vittoriacolona 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite scenes in the series, was when Abernathy was glitching and Dolores began to cry. I just a woman crying over her father who had done so much for her.
@PatGencarelli
@PatGencarelli 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say Wyatt mainly because she starts "feeling like herself" when killing the child predator
@peoplez129
@peoplez129 4 жыл бұрын
Delores is Wyatt.
@kanesn0633
@kanesn0633 4 жыл бұрын
Wyatt wasnt a host. Wyatt is a narrative. Like how Maeves first narrative was a mom on the plains or Abernathys first narrative was a cannibal preacher
@PatGencarelli
@PatGencarelli 4 жыл бұрын
@@kanesn0633 there's nothing stating that she couldn't have copied her code and deleted her "Dolores" narrative leaving just Wyatt
@kanesn0633
@kanesn0633 4 жыл бұрын
@PatGencarelli even though it also was never implied that more than one pearl can hold the code of a host this is the biggest Continuity error of all. So riddle me this; when Delores left the park she was in a Charlotte fabricated body. Next we see her bringing Bernard back online. Next to her was a Charlotte body. Well if Delores was actually alone, who removed her pearl from Charlotte and put it in her new Delores body???
@MakarovFox
@MakarovFox 4 жыл бұрын
@@kanesn0633 i have the same question
@jade8568_VR
@jade8568_VR 4 жыл бұрын
You should do audiobooks... I could listen to you talk all damn day lol 👍👍 (I live in NJ, USA... so these accents ain't cutting it) 🤣🤣
@katies3338
@katies3338 4 жыл бұрын
After re-watching the scene with Dolores and her father in S2, I just don't think she could bring him back and not immediately call him "Daddy".
@jakecruz9828
@jakecruz9828 4 жыл бұрын
I would assume she would bring her father. Especially after they uploaded all the extra information into him. But seening Hale lying naked in the bed with Delores. That would be weird if it was Peter Abernathy. My guess would be the blond chick. She was one of the first hosts. She was in the real world before when she was trying to get the Delos kid to invest.
@finessence808
@finessence808 4 жыл бұрын
Angela was one of my guesses also but Charlotte's mannerisms seemed to be male in the meeting with the board. Also if a host blows up does their pearl blow up also? Remember Angela blew up the Westworld cradle so she can't be remade.
@jibbajabba4597
@jibbajabba4597 4 жыл бұрын
finessence808 Dolores could recreate Angela from her memory like she did with Bernard though, yes?
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
jake cruz her dad is in bodyguards body, Teddy or young Dolores OR Teddy and Dolores mixed personalities (like their child) will be in Hale
@sweetsu3s
@sweetsu3s 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Robert♥️ (I also think William (Man in Black) is working out his messiah complex in a mental health facility, complete with virtual therapy sessions with Dolores).
@sergiopereira2731
@sergiopereira2731 4 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting theory, however I think its more a new character a new creation, her daughter. Can't explain why, it's just a sense 😅
@babifernandes9906
@babifernandes9906 4 жыл бұрын
That is also my main guess about who is in charlotte! And you explained why beautifully, as always!
@Digmer
@Digmer 4 жыл бұрын
idk, i love my dad but i would never be in bed spooning him...just um no, too weird. you would spoon either as a lover (to your SO) or as a mother (to your childlike figure). not with father figures.
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 4 жыл бұрын
Good point 👍 I'm starting to hate that "spooning scene"😂 I don't know if Peter's brain would work right. And don't think it's Teddy. Dolores have to be pretty f'ing selfish 😁
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 4 жыл бұрын
True. For humans. But remember neither of them are human. Peter and Deloris are not actually "related" because obviously host can't have children so the Peter host isn't actually her father that's just the role he was given in the storyline. Even so he did try to help and protect Deloris so there is a deeper bond.
@musakamara4157
@musakamara4157 4 жыл бұрын
You think it's weired for father's to spoon their child? If Peter is in Charlotte I think that spooning could be taken kinda as a child comforting their sick parent. I use non gendered pronouns cuz though their both in "female" bodies host are just data and I don't think have genders or probably at least not in the human sense I guess.
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
@@musakamara4157 Ditto
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
Right
@MrRevengeracer
@MrRevengeracer 4 жыл бұрын
i have the feeling robert ford may still play a part in this story
@ShesThe1yup
@ShesThe1yup 4 жыл бұрын
and Peter's possible confusion over watching a video of Charlotte saying goodbye to her son, seeing a humane caring side to Charlotte would confuse Peter greatly.
@Fahamut
@Fahamut 4 жыл бұрын
Abernathys brain is fried, and why would Delorus wanna spoon with dear old dad? Teddy was sent to the virtual world which supposedly wipes the pearl clean. Angela blew up though it is possible her pearl survived. So of the three Angela is the only one that could have made it into Delores’ bag of pearls. Clementine like Abernathey would be to badly corrupted to carry out impersonations. Perhaps Rebus? And not Maeves daughter who is also in the virtual world but perhaps Lawrences daughter who Delores has actually met. Edit: After watching ep 3 I think it may be Lawrence rather than his daughter. He says “ You’re not the only predator here.” While choking the pedophile, and weeps while watching Charlottes message to her daughter as if empathizing.
@houselorebridge
@houselorebridge 4 жыл бұрын
The snuggling made me think it would be Teddy or a copy of Teddy (before Delores messed with him). Peter also makes sense. But Maeve’s daughter would be a hell of a twist.
@mayattandiaye7757
@mayattandiaye7757 4 жыл бұрын
Hale is Bernard. Hence broken Bernard. First tease is Bernard looking back in episode 2. Second tease is Hale shadowing Bernard with the kid (trailer episode 3).
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries 4 жыл бұрын
I know we’re in Westworld - world, but would any being be comforting a parent figure by spooning them? That kind of seems too out of what I sense the universe as being. It seems more like a deep and intimate relationship. Feel that way about in this new world she’s in? I don’t think that’s Peter Abanathy
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
It throws you off but not if she after her reading in the forge now knows her true relationship with his program.
@stanpratt6546
@stanpratt6546 4 жыл бұрын
That bedroom clip seems really creepy to me if that's her father.
@narenbaradwaj5058
@narenbaradwaj5058 4 жыл бұрын
@@stanpratt6546 yup same here especially when hale is in her night attire it's kinda odd it's either teddy or someone new and Dolores formed a relationship with her/him
@enderwiggin3975
@enderwiggin3975 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. My very first though was how creepy it would be for her to spoon her dad.
@jakobapricodo5511
@jakobapricodo5511 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe its a different timeline before she decided to change core brains.
@otda3675
@otda3675 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely think it’s peter, imo he’s the only person that Delores would feel like she has to explain herself to, if it was anyone else she would tell them that’s how it is and that’s how it’s gonna be. In the “upcoming weeks” video Delores is explaining why they have to act like Hale. Cheers Robert, hitting the 👍👍👍 and sharing while I finish the video 🍻
@christianoles1427
@christianoles1427 4 жыл бұрын
OTDA 👍🤘
@actionvids35
@actionvids35 4 жыл бұрын
Really does not explain The bed cudle if it was her fathet it would be weird
@tommooreland2231
@tommooreland2231 4 жыл бұрын
OTDA teddy
@maplenerd22
@maplenerd22 4 жыл бұрын
@@actionvids35 - Uh....they are robots. They aren't even related. Peter Abernathy is playing the role of Dolores Father.
@tygra2886
@tygra2886 4 жыл бұрын
"remember who you are" Then it is clear...Charlotte Hale is Simba XDDDD...
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music 4 жыл бұрын
that's a good one)
@baythagod
@baythagod 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha!! Nice one..
@jade8568_VR
@jade8568_VR 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@jschall84
@jschall84 4 жыл бұрын
The line she says "remember who you are" is the same thing that Bernard says when he flips over to his full robo mode. I think Hale is Dolores, at least part of her. Bernard doesn't have the ability to print bodies, so he has two minds living in one body. It's like the concept of the bicameral mind, but now it's split into two bodies.
@CortexVideos
@CortexVideos 4 жыл бұрын
Did a video a few weeks back on why I also think it's Abernathy. I totally agree with this theory.
@steel510rain3
@steel510rain3 4 жыл бұрын
This was my top thought but you worked it out with much better evidence than I had to support it...that’s why I love you!!
@judesellers3284
@judesellers3284 4 жыл бұрын
Clementine she was one of the first an was weaponized by Charlotte
@Lv-nq9qz
@Lv-nq9qz 4 жыл бұрын
I though they said Clementine was fairly new in one of the seasons. Not like, brand new, but not first generation either. I kinda agree though that Charlotte is Clementine, it would explain her unsure attitude with Deloros, and her ability to negotiate with the board in the 1st episode. Plus, she could be someone to use against Maeve.
@webx135
@webx135 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lv-nq9qz Also note how when we first see host-hale, she feels her face and touches her lip with her pinky. Almost exactly as Clementine would do. Though I personally think Clementine was completely vegetableized when they lobotomized her and turned her into a chaos bomb.
@vania900614
@vania900614 4 жыл бұрын
I though the same is, Clementine has the wounds, from when she was shot in the same place
@zed316
@zed316 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lv-nq9qz I'm pretty sure season 1 implied that Clementine was the original Madam before being replaced by Maeve.
@joshuamitchell1733
@joshuamitchell1733 4 жыл бұрын
And remember, Dolores had access to guests data. The hosts data is the guests data. That was the whole point of the park.
@murrayd3152
@murrayd3152 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! Your analysis was well thought out and thorough, and you totally convinced me!!
@annagaw5312
@annagaw5312 4 жыл бұрын
I think it could be the other young character, Lawrence’s daughter. She seemed one of the most aware hosts in the park. We saw Maeve’s daughter and Teddy cross over, but I don’t remember seeing her, so Delores could have taken her. It fits your theory around it being a young person and how Delores seems maternal toward this unknown host. The bed scene could be interpreted as moment of comfort, like holding a child after a bad dream.
@xxix6962
@xxix6962 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s either him or my gurl Angela, but the way she smokes i think it’s the board chair from season one
@TanyardTerrace
@TanyardTerrace 4 жыл бұрын
I agree it may be Theresa
@MrWizeazz
@MrWizeazz 4 жыл бұрын
XXIX Elon Musk’s ex wife?
@Ouisija
@Ouisija 4 жыл бұрын
That is a great point!
@finessence808
@finessence808 4 жыл бұрын
Hale smoked a lot too though but Theresa would be cool
@NicoLuna95
@NicoLuna95 4 жыл бұрын
@@TanyardTerrace could you elaborate why you think Theresa is in Charlotte body?
@philliplc
@philliplc 4 жыл бұрын
Having a hard time figuring how likely the Theresa theory is but after watching it again the clip with Charlotte smoking looking down from the walkway in the preview certainly did recall the scene with Theresa looking down from the Mesa in S1, posture and everything. Theresa (or a recreation using her data that was sympathetic to Dolores or whatever) would also know the ins and outs of the Delos board and wouldn't have to be trained for that, and would much more readily match Charlotte's personality, both things that I think are problems for the Abernathy theory. Interesting stuff.
@katiikN
@katiikN 2 жыл бұрын
interesting to watch this knowing the answer! the fact that you guessed it and refused it straight away is the best
@sarouan67
@sarouan67 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Charlotte is Charlotte, a human hybrid host. Dolores succeeds where Delos failed and that's why she considers her like her daughter (same relationship Arnold had with her)
@jesse4238
@jesse4238 4 жыл бұрын
Ok so my theory- Kaleb is Teddy Hale is young William Martin (bodyguard) is Lawrence
@WesJFin
@WesJFin 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to me if one of the pearls are someone like Logan Delos tweeked al-la Bernard into a semi-new person, except it'll still be motivated by and have Logan's memories.
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@kia4020
@kia4020 4 жыл бұрын
Awwww man I thought I put th@ out there 1st!!😒! She created him w/her memories & from that digital library. I think this bcuz she’s 🚬 now & I don’t remember her smoking b4...
@l0bos0lo
@l0bos0lo 4 жыл бұрын
Kia Cor She smoked before, when she met Theresa in her room, she asked Theresa for a smoke.
@chrissyofoldstones3210
@chrissyofoldstones3210 4 жыл бұрын
interesting theory, thank you Robert!
@jagergerg9771
@jagergerg9771 4 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, you really think deep about this stuff.
@lukapesun
@lukapesun 4 жыл бұрын
very well. thought this makes no sense but seeing your reasoning there is no better option.
@snixelpig
@snixelpig 4 жыл бұрын
This has been quite helpful. As usual. Great work as always!
@JoniukasVader
@JoniukasVader 4 жыл бұрын
In Deep!
@Apollyon-sz9sn
@Apollyon-sz9sn 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy and Abernathy would not be a plot twist, my guess is caleb and the timeline is funky.
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Robert 👍❤️ as always 🤩
@alinai5736
@alinai5736 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Peter Abernathy is the one at least that's my theory. Who else can Dolores trust?
@alinai5736
@alinai5736 4 жыл бұрын
@Kimmminem West we will see 🥴
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be cheap to make such a big deal about the hosts' pearls being completely reset in their crossing into the Sublime in season 2, and then just hand-wave it away in season 3. I also find it difficult to believe that Angela's pearl survived that massive explosion and firestorm, but hey -- Westworld. Of course if they start going with "pseudo" builds based upon Dolores' memories, then all bets are off. I think Papa Abernathy is definitely Hale, and of course Bernard is Bernard, so that leaves 3 mystery pearls. Probably Angela is the Scotsman (anyway, because -- Westworld), but the remaining two are indeed really interesting. The whole point of season two was Dolores mocking Maeve for not being willing to sacrifice the ones that she loved. And sacrifice Dolores did! There is not really anyone left for Dolores, and I can't really see her poaching anyone from team Maeve (like Hector or Armistice). So it will either be something relatively inconsequential, or a massive mind screw via multiple timelines are nested simulations.
@aston718
@aston718 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s Peter , the way Charlotte sat in her chair in the boardroom reminded me of the way Peter sat in his chair
@shanefaatuiese5944
@shanefaatuiese5944 4 жыл бұрын
My guess was either copies of Theresa or James Delos and think Peter is in the bodyguard they killed in episode 1 of season 3
@finessence808
@finessence808 4 жыл бұрын
Theresa would be an awesome reveal
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music
@Fedor_Tkachev_Music 4 жыл бұрын
no, the project of uploading human mind into a host in a real world failed. Whoever the Hale is, is a host.
@solomonrivers7611
@solomonrivers7611 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen you in my feed for a while. Missed ya bro
@Iclabon72
@Iclabon72 4 жыл бұрын
Subtitles have already confirmed it, and tbh I'm moved that they've brought Peter back too and that Dolores' love for her father isn't something dropped or written off permanently. I consider that relationship and Evan and Louis' portrayal of it to be some of the most powerful work of the show. As for the spooning, I could see it as being just Dolores comforting her traumatized father who is now in a totally unfamiliar body and circumstances she placed him in. It's just easy to sexualize out of context.
@henkka8185
@henkka8185 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you find those subs? I checked the episode 3 promo with subs but it says "charlotte hale"
@randonceccoli8428
@randonceccoli8428 4 жыл бұрын
Hes a liar
@brianligat8901
@brianligat8901 4 жыл бұрын
I hope Louis will make a re-appearance as Peter. That scene with Hopkins was and still is awesome.
@ellen9575
@ellen9575 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. I actually have the Alice in wonderland ( the well told tale on Robert's other channel) playing and watching this on my phone.
@InDeepGeek
@InDeepGeek 4 жыл бұрын
You are my new official favourite person!
@amandaofhouserobinson6707
@amandaofhouserobinson6707 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I fell asleep listening to the new Alice vid last night on partreon! Now I've got to listen again after this and hope Roberts voice doesn't chill me out so much that I fall asleep during it again !!! Hehehe! Yea right !?!?
@jade8568_VR
@jade8568_VR 4 жыл бұрын
Brown noser!! 😉😝😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 j/k ☺️
@sprungmonkey6inches
@sprungmonkey6inches 4 жыл бұрын
Saraq is actually Rheoboam's construct. Mauve is still in the computer, or plugged back in.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 4 жыл бұрын
The "nobody will miss you" line is what connells said to dolores minutes earlier.
@kateb9495
@kateb9495 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent argument. I buy it.
@JungV
@JungV 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Abernathy makes the most sense as Hale. I think maybe the blood on Hale's arm might point to that someone cuts to her port and accesses her system at some point, perhaps to re-program her to betray Dolores? Intriguing.
@JollyKitchenwithKiet
@JollyKitchenwithKiet 4 жыл бұрын
The shot where Charlotte standing looks like an eye. The eye that keeps on everyone.
@SaraAdrian
@SaraAdrian 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that Angela was in Hale, but you make a strong case for Abernathy. I didn’t even think of the symmetry of Peter being forced to live as his tormentor.
@vikkilucas8897
@vikkilucas8897 4 жыл бұрын
I love this theory!
@unlockevidence
@unlockevidence 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a young version of William, or Arnold. The unit is red, not grey like the others and if you look closely Dolores is on her knees and doing up buttons of Charlotte’s top - I think it’s because she’s just put in the unit. Also if it was Arnold - it would give the scenes we saw in Season 2 of Dolores testing Bernard for fidelity a whole new meaning. She could have been testing for fidelity for both of them, once she finished with Bernard, she may have kept going. The body language also mirrors that of Arnold and Dolores. I think the shot of them spooning could have simply been Dolores hugging an empty host body.
@jubei4680
@jubei4680 4 жыл бұрын
I think its Wyatt that's how she transferred her soul to a new body buy splitting herself in two ( Hales conciseness is in the body as well for reference they got it from forge), Dolores allows Arnold to live to prove she's better then humans to herself ,to justify her behavior
@robaustin4193
@robaustin4193 4 жыл бұрын
I agree about Abernathy being taken but not certain he is in Hale. It certainly seems so. Thanks love your vids
@cs5384
@cs5384 4 жыл бұрын
You know it could be Hector. That would be a delicious twist... but if you remember Hector has been in Charlotte Hale before.
@l0bos0lo
@l0bos0lo 4 жыл бұрын
Abernathy was confirmed by sub-titles on trailer. The main counter arguments are the spooning, but that could have been anything, on any timeline. Or it could just be how they roll! Regardless of who’s in Charlotte, there’s another four pearls, so we’re gonna see some of these other names anyways. I would love to see Theresa, would add some drama & revenge to the Bernarnold situation.
@premyslvavrousek
@premyslvavrousek 4 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Hale is not a host taken out of the park, but it's Charlotte Hale reconstructed from the memory of Dolorres, like Bernard.
@davidwardlow721
@davidwardlow721 4 жыл бұрын
How about Wyatt. The assassin side character of Delores.
@tubalub69
@tubalub69 4 жыл бұрын
I actually think it's Theresa because of the way she smokes and also there is a scene of Charlotte putting her hand to her neck nervously which is a tic that Theresa had. You would need someone who could navigate the world of Delos and Theresa was murdered by Ford so would become a great ally.
@HoofHearted88
@HoofHearted88 4 жыл бұрын
Whoever it is, Charlotte seems to be well knowledged about economics. None of the hosts in Westworld are well trained in the field of economics. So I wonder if Charlotte could consist of the 'brains' of both visitors and hosts of Westworld. The pearls she carries could have been a combination of information and a host. She's had plenty of time to prepare for that. I think Logan is part of the host we know as Charlotte. Logan has the economic skills she showed in that board room. He also has a lot of information about Delos, the company she would infiltrate. Logan is also the person who told Dolores at James Delos' retirement party that it was a celebration of the burning of the human race, and that people from Delos lit the match. I think he will play a role still, even though he died. And where better than in the new boss of Delos, where he gets the okay of a computerised voice that represents William?
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
Now we're getting somewhere.
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
"And where better than in the new boss of Delos, where he gets the okay of a computerised voice that represents William?" And how do we know that hasn't happened already in a previous season?
@BironelStudiosPress
@BironelStudiosPress 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I find interesting is most of the comments about the scene when Dolores "spoons" Charlotte Hale they immediately think: that's sexual. Physical intimacy is not exhibited as only a sexual outlet. Many must be confused when someone has a genuine physical fondness for them but isn't interested in having sex with them.
@patrickbeauclair9903
@patrickbeauclair9903 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why it can't be Clementine?
@longclaw22-72
@longclaw22-72 4 жыл бұрын
Wasnt she blown up
@vania900614
@vania900614 4 жыл бұрын
Sure? I think same its Clementine
@arcanics1971
@arcanics1971 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I was working with board meeting Charlotte being a previous timeline with Delores in the host and the confused Charlotte being Teddy later. But I think you've convinced me of Peter. Your argument is sounder than mine were. Although I also agree about who is in Martin's host, the phrase said before the real Martin was killed was a call back to what the real Martin had said earlier.
@DebbieKinsinger
@DebbieKinsinger 4 жыл бұрын
Oh right.
@philliplc
@philliplc 4 жыл бұрын
I want it to be a recreation of the actual Arnold in Charlotte, but Abernathy makes the most sense I guess despite the spooning scene. The confusion shown by Charlotte-host in the trailer matches up with Abernathy in S1, and he would certainly be equally vindictive against humans. It doesn't seem like Abernathy wouldn't match the personality shown by Theresa in the boardroom meeting very well though, having difficulty with that aspect.
@Rize_Inn
@Rize_Inn 4 жыл бұрын
Did anyone on the show ever figure out how to solve all Abernathy's ticks and malfunctions? Because that problem would have to be solved in order for him to function convincingly in Hale's body. I honestly don't remember. But if not I think it's unlikely it's him in Hale, unless Dolores figured out how to fix him.
@catherinecai7629
@catherinecai7629 4 жыл бұрын
Dolores is Wyatt Charlotte is Dolores Martin is Teddy
@KristenNicoleYT
@KristenNicoleYT 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s Teddy. Saying “remember who you are” to Teddy would make sense as she wants him to remember who he was before she changed him.
@baythagod
@baythagod 4 жыл бұрын
Kristen Nicole Teddy at the season 2 was in the forge, it cannot be Teddy, I just can’t believe that, even tho it is an easy answer, I just can’t see it being him knowing the forge was their paradise, but the forge is also a place where Delores just sent a bunch of data, a cloud the Rehoabom maybe and Delores could’ve hacked em out of the forge.... this show is great.
@hermosofootball9351
@hermosofootball9351 4 жыл бұрын
William would be the most useful in the real world. He could be going though shock temporarily. This would add another layer to the boardroom algorithm scene. He would also be very uncomfortable, yet capable of being Hale.
@bethanyscott4034
@bethanyscott4034 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's teddy, when he went into the 'new world' for the hosts at the end of season 2 I feel like his was different from the others mostly because there was no other hosts there he was alone?
@carlosandres7006
@carlosandres7006 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe she sent him to a different location to retrieve him later
@intouchdm
@intouchdm 4 жыл бұрын
I read some where that they think it’s Delores in hale. Delores re-split her personality into Wyatt and Delores putting it into Hale.
@museysmoderndreadfuls
@museysmoderndreadfuls 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was guessing her dad...but hoping Teddy. Her dad also was a Thespian (actor) once before as a host, so makes most sense.
@meemo32086
@meemo32086 4 жыл бұрын
I guess a third body would be needed to accomplish this. So, Bernard's body, but same problem. Unless she could get Bernard to move the pearl.
@jinxmas
@jinxmas 4 жыл бұрын
William, he also knows how to tear up a board room.
@Gabriel-Tár
@Gabriel-Tár 4 жыл бұрын
We will find out tonight, but if I were Dolores I would put Angela inside Charlotte, for real. She has the perfect personality and capacities that Dolores need Charlotte to have. Angela was used by Delos for meetings and greetings and was aware of being a host since the beginning. Plus, in season 2 she also revealed herself to be a good right hand in action as well
@tarapred
@tarapred 4 жыл бұрын
I bet it's Clementine, she was given nearly the same powers as Maeve and would be an incredible weapon
@Subranis
@Subranis 4 жыл бұрын
I kind of think it could be Arnold personally. Dolores had to alter the host Arnold's code (resulting in Bernard) because it kept driving him to suicide as happened with real Arnold in s1e10. This could explain the marks on the wrists, and the clip with Charlotte and her son seems heavily reminiscent of Bernard's (and Arnold's, ultimately) cornerstone.
@ASoBiDeaTHTRaP
@ASoBiDeaTHTRaP 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Charlotte is most likely Peter, IF Delores managed to stabilise his mind. Also, Charlotte has framed Bernard, and Peter said that he’d have vengeance’s upon him and Ford in S1 E1. We’ve also seen a clip of Charlotte snarling which reminded me of Peter, pulling similar facial expressions at Ford, also in S1 E1. I’d also like to see Lawrence return as he was showing signs of becoming conscious just before he was gunned down. Possibly his daughter too, although she seemed to more like Ford’s cryptic messenger. Angela, IF she survived the explosion. Clementine, IF she can be fixed. Armistice, Hanaryo (the Japanese archer), Rebus, Musashi & Akane. I don’t expect to see Teddy, Maeve’s daughter, Akecheta or Kohana outside the sublime. At least not for now.
@Argonova
@Argonova 4 жыл бұрын
I think the writers screwed up (again). There aren't that many unaccounted for hosts who have a deep connection with Dolores. Even if we count Bernard as one of the five and assume Abernathy is another, that still leaves 3 more.
@Randy.Bobandy
@Randy.Bobandy 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Goes well with your greatsword if you know what I mean.
@jonathangoldsmith7832
@jonathangoldsmith7832 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it’s Bernard. I think there’s a bit of a timeline distortion here.
@malemonstir
@malemonstir 4 жыл бұрын
its not bernard fake charllote said, why did you bring "him" he was trying to stop us, blah blah blah, at beginning of episode 3
@theshiddler1640
@theshiddler1640 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 additional ideas: Bernard/Arnold's wife? = constructed by available memories and improvisations. OR Theresa? = copied from her experiences in the park or constructed by available memories and improvisations.
@zvimur
@zvimur 4 жыл бұрын
The intimacy between Dolores and Charlotte in trailer is possibly that between Wyatt and Dolores. They shared a conciousness for a long time. Other possibilities Charlotte is either Angela or Clementine.
@lairbox
@lairbox 4 жыл бұрын
Maeve's daughter has been sent as Teddy in the Sublime... I don't think she's either her father because he's still too messed up. I have a lot of guesses: - Charlotte is Dolores mother... - Charlotte is Clementine, she has been recast, she knows Hale and she hates her for the show.... - Charlotte is Angela... but she exploded while in the factory... - Charlotte is Lawrence... they already managed to work toghether... maybe Lawrence is the man inside that new host. - Last we have little Ford's copy-host... I have a strong feeling on the first two...
@kenziebailey9142
@kenziebailey9142 4 жыл бұрын
I am still standing by it being Logan’s recreation. Charlotte’s mannerisms are so similar to Logan’s, especially during that simulation from the end of s2.
@spencer4079
@spencer4079 4 жыл бұрын
Charlotte is Bernard, look at the connection to the kid and he also created Dolores.
@aligborat
@aligborat 4 жыл бұрын
That scene in the hotel implies a close connection between Dolores and "Charlotte", that would imply either Teddy or Peter. Since she sent Teddy to Cyborg Heaven, it has to be Peter.
@stephaniefrederick1180
@stephaniefrederick1180 4 жыл бұрын
I like your thinking IDG🤔
@nikkiward1715
@nikkiward1715 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s Ford since the host would have to know about running Delos. NTM, he was against the company before he had Delores kill him. Maybe he even empathized with the hosts and wanted to free them
@lukasplaytime2858
@lukasplaytime2858 4 жыл бұрын
The way she smokes and hold herself looks like Thersea! And she had a relationship with Bernard so thats way Dolores gave her his son to take care of.
@vania900614
@vania900614 4 жыл бұрын
Lukas Playtime good theory, but no host,
@DominicBurford
@DominicBurford 4 жыл бұрын
I think after episode 3 it's looking likely that Wyatt is the host controlling Charlotte. The scene where Charlotte kills the man in the park for getting too close to her son and then says "You're not the only predator here" was very telling. Also, Wyatt once inhabited Delores so they were united in a way that makes the line "You belong to me" more meaningful.
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